Court: Yes, Chicago, there is a Second Amendment
It will take some time to digest all 214 pages of opinions in today’s Supreme Court ruling in a gun-rights case. But this much is clear: A 5-4 majority of justices said gun-ownership rights are “fundamental to the Nation’s scheme of ordered liberty,” and that city and state governments therefore can’t deny them.
Legal scholars will debate the way the justices went about affirming the “fundamental” nature of the Second Amendment; there was some disagreement even within the five-justice majority. But the key to the case, titled McDonald v. Chicago, was whether the Second Amendment is truly integral to our system of government.
As Justice Samuel Alito wrote for the majority, the Court had already answered that question in its Heller decision, which struck down a handgun ban in the District of Columbia:
Self-defense is a basic right, recognized by many legal systems from ancient times to the present day, and in Heller, we held that individual self-defense is “the central component” of the Second Amendment right. (Italics original)
If the thorniest of our policy debates are, to use a football analogy, played between the 40-yard-lines, Chicago’s ban on handguns, even those kept in homes for self-defense purposes, was an attempt to pin the pro-gun rights crowd inside its own 10-yard-line and keep it there. With that said, gun rights will continue to see pushes from policy makers on both sides of the issue. As Hans von Spakovsky wrote in a Heritage Foundation blog item:
The Court clearly said that some government regulation of guns is allowed. But how far can state and local governments go? How burdensome can their regulations be? Can they decide to allow gun ownership that will enable a homeowner to protect himself and his family in his home, but prohibit the concealed carrying of a handgun? All of these questions remain unanswered by today’s opinion that was decided by a narrow one-vote majority.
So, please: No comments about how this decision is “radical” or “dangerous” or anything of the sort. The only thing here that was radical was the Chicago ordinance that has now been struck down sent back to a lower court, which will almost certainly have to strike it down. [edited at 11:48 a.m.]
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opus
June 28th, 2010
11:51 am
Guns and religion are for wimps…..
ByteMe
June 28th, 2010
11:54 am
This decision was more of a “punt” than anything. They didn’t decide anything specifically other than that the second amendment — like other amendments — can have limits, but not many limits.
Which just means it’ll create more cases for years to come as judges argue over what’s the second amendment equivalent of yelling “fire” in a crowded theater.
Jefferson
June 28th, 2010
11:58 am
Not a big deal to me, now go make hay.
BPJ
June 28th, 2010
12:01 pm
It appears that, while outright bans are unconstitutional, a variety of regulations would be constitutional. Examples would include restrictions on sales to nuts & crooks (don’t you love it when I use those technical legal terms?), banning of various types of firearms (e.g., bazookas) and bullets, and probably registration requirements. On that last point, the argument against registration has been that it was a prelude to banning guns. Now that we know that banning guns is not permitted under our constitution, registration shouldn’t seem so scary.
andygrdzli
June 28th, 2010
12:13 pm
As a concealed carry permit holder, it was the right decisions. For 99% of the honest and legal population, laws will be followed. For the 1% nut jobs, no matter what law is enacted, there will individuals that break the law. What we need to do, is prosecute the offenders to the fullest extent of the law.
I am a retired military officer, 60 years of age, and can still place a tight patter at 21 feet. I am also a member of the NRA, and I joined just about a year ago. I very seldom carry a gun, mostly when my wife and I travel. I hope that I will never, ever have to use my gun for self defense. I hope that I can always protect my family by other means. If it is a material item, take it, I can replace it. If you threaten my life, or that of a member of my family, I will go toe to toe with you. You will never know I have it, and in states when you can open carry, you still will never see it, I don’t believe in that.
In Chicago recently, if I am not mistaken, from 6:00 pm on a Friday to 6:00 am on a Monday, there were over 40 shootings, reported on ABC and others. I don’t think those involved were law abiding citizens. I think we need tougher laws governing the purchase of handguns. I think better investigations are required to protect the innocents.
After 20 years in the military, I never witnessed a gun just going off and shooting someone. I have seen human errors that caused guns to discharge. If you are going to own a gun, attend training and then practice, practice and practice.
mrs. w.
June 28th, 2010
12:13 pm
If you outlaw guns for someone like me then only the criminals will have guns. While I am not yet to the point that it (they) goes where I go; I do enjoy having a couple in my home – just in case. Can you imagine living in Chicago and not being allowed to have a firearm!!
Kyle Wingfield
June 28th, 2010
12:17 pm
BPJ: The onerous registration requirements in the Chicago ordinance were part of what the Court objected to, if my cursory, partial reading of the opinion is correct.
jconservative
June 28th, 2010
12:20 pm
Expected decision based on what the Court did in the Heller decision. And the strong resemblance to the words of Heller were expected. Those lovers of the 14th Amendment’s Due Process Clause just received another vase of roses.
You 10th Amendment lovers just took another hit.
But we 2nd Amendment lovers need to look closely at Justice Alito’s words just as we looked closely at Justice Scalia’s words in Heller.
Alito’s words: “In Heller, we held that the Second Amendment protects the right to possess a handgun in the home for the purpose of self-defense….We made it clear in Heller that our holding did not cast doubt on such longstanding regulatory measures as ‘prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill,’ laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings,’… We repeat those assurances here. Despite municipal respondents’ doomsday proclamations, incorporation does not imperil every law regulating firearms.”
Note the words “…the Second Amendment protects the right to possess a handgun in the home for the purpose of self-defense.” Whether I can carry a .38 under my armpit to a UGA football game is still open to debate.
But the bottom line is that after 219 years the Court has ruled that the 2nd Amendment applies to the States. And although expected, it is still great news.
CJ
June 28th, 2010
12:21 pm
Second Amendment: “A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
But for the five activists on the Supreme court who, ignoring the portion of the Second Amendment they don’t like, created a right that doesn’t otherwise exist in the Constitution. The right to keep and bear arms is the right of a State to form and maintain a “well regulated militia”. Such a right was not delineated for individuals.
Under these rulings by the five Supreme Court justices faking judicial restraint, what legal option do we have to keep a homicidal neighbor from stockpiling assault weapons? For that matter what legal option do we have to stop Kyle from building nuclear warhead in his basement or Jim Wooten from collecting surface-to-air missiles? As far as I can tell, since “Arms” are undefined in the Constitution, the answer is none—no legal option exists.
The number of gun deaths that occur in the U.S. relative to the rest of the industrialized world already demonstrate the dangers of our love affair with weaponry. This ruling will only lead to more death.
We ignore the first half of the Second Amendment at our peril.
Port O'John
June 28th, 2010
12:30 pm
On the front of the NRA building in DC, they have inscribed only the last clause of the second amendment:
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
Al that stuff about a “well regulated militia” is nowhere to be seen in NRA dogma. Given that the GOP and NRA oppose preventing even people on the no-fly list from buying guns, it hard to have anything like a rational debate on the issue. We expect the guvmint from stopping suspected terrorists from building bombs, but they sure as heck can have all the guns they want. Now that’s consistency.
What is interesting is that in the case of gun rights, is that the “originalists” (Alito, Thomas, Roberts, etc) choose to ignore basic grammar and sentence construction of the second amedment. When the constitution was written, there was no plan for a standing permanent army, thus we needed militias. The constitution drafters saw the need and included the language “well regulated militia” in the Constitution. Which is precisely the wording the “Originalists” choose to ignore when it serves their political purpose. We have plenty of angry white male militias running around (their membership roles expanding after Obama was elected) but they certainly aren’t anything like “well regulated.” The answer is that the “Originalists” only believe in sticking to the original intent of the constitution when it serves their political beliefs.
This is just another political decision by the Supreme Court. Given the majority’s inability (or unwillingness to provide guidance) they will very likely strike down any gun law that comes before them and play the old game of “guess what I’m thinking now” with states and local governments that try to wrestle with the issue. If the majority really believed that baloney about allowing “some regulation” they could have easily laid out the test for it, but they did not, which means their just saying that nonsense to keep us hoping that maybe, just maybe, there is a place where carrying guns would not be appropriate.
On the plus side, the boys and girls from the Gold Dome are sure to allow guns in bars, airports, grade schools and everywere else as soon as they get back in session. And as soon as the Supremes strike down those unfair regulations about guns on airplanes, travel will be really exciting again.
Pass the ammunition, the guy in the seat ahead of me is talking on his cell phone after takeoff.
CJ you can't have it both ways
June 28th, 2010
12:32 pm
CJ you can’t highlight the words “well regulated militia” and “state” without someone coming right back and highlighting the words, “the right of the people”. Didn’t say “militia” CJ, didn’t say “state” CJ, it said the people.
NOWHERE does it say that the individual should NOT have a right to bear arms.
Better to have a last line of defense, than no line of defense. Unless of course you have complete faith and trust in the federal government to always act in the best interest of citizens.
Kyle Wingfield
June 28th, 2010
12:32 pm
Chimp: Get a new name, please.
New name
June 28th, 2010
12:33 pm
Ok, is this better, Kyle?
Kyle Wingfield
June 28th, 2010
12:34 pm
Fine by me.
Democrat voters = low IQs
June 28th, 2010
12:34 pm
CJ
If gun bans are so great, why does Chicago have the highest gun crime rate in the country?
Democrat voters = low IQs
June 28th, 2010
12:36 pm
Port O’John
Explain how strict gun laws fail in cities like Chicago and DC.
Kyle Wingfield
June 28th, 2010
12:39 pm
CJ, your capacity for hyperbole never ceases to amaze, nor begins to persuade.
Democrat voters = low IQs
June 28th, 2010
12:40 pm
“The number of gun deaths that occur in the U.S. relative to the rest of the industrialized world already demonstrate the dangers of our love affair with weaponry.”
Go to China where the Chinese military gun down innocent people at will. Go to Rwanda where militias have gunned down people because of race. Go to the Sudan where government militias kill their own people at will.
Go to the south side of Chicago where just two weeks ago they had 54 shootings. Chicago has THE strictest gun laws in the union.
Democrat voters = low IQs
June 28th, 2010
12:43 pm
More Guns Means Less Crime
By John Stossel
You know what the mainstream media think about guns and our freedom to carry them.
Pierre Thomas of ABC: “When someone gets angry or when they snap, they are going to be able to have access to weapons.”
Chris Matthews of MSNBC: “I wonder if in a free society violence is always going to be a part of it if guns are available.”
Keith Olbermann, who usually can’t be topped for absurdity: “Organizations like the NRA … are trying to increase deaths by gun in this country.”
“Trying to?” Well, I admit that I bought that nonsense for years. Living in Manhattan, working at ABC, everyone agreed that guns are evil. And that the NRA is evil. (Now that the NRA has agreed to a sleazy deal with congressional Democrats on political speech censorship, maybe some of its leaders are evil, but that’s for another column.)
Now I know that I was totally wrong about guns. Now I know that more guns means — hold onto your seat — less crime.
How can that be, when guns kill almost 30,000 Americans a year? Because while we hear about the murders and accidents, we don’t often hear about the crimes stopped because would-be victims showed a gun and scared criminals away. Those thwarted crimes and lives saved usually aren’t reported to police (sometimes for fear the gun will be confiscated), and when they are reported, the media tend to ignore them. No bang, no news.
This state of affairs produces a distorted public impression of guns. If you only hear about the crimes and accidents, and never about lives saved, you might think gun ownership is folly.
But, hey, if guns save lives, it logically follows that gun laws cost lives.
Suzanna Hupp and her parents were having lunch at Luby’s cafeteria in Killeen, Texas, when a man began shooting diners with his handgun, even stopping to reload. Suzanna’s parents were two of the 23 people killed. (Twenty more were wounded.)
Suzanna owned a handgun, but because Texas law at the time did not permit her to carry it with her, she left it in her car. She’s confident that she could have stopped the shooting spree if she had her gun. (Texas has since changed its law.)
Today, 40 states issue permits to competent, law-abiding adults to carry concealed handguns (Vermont and Alaska have the most libertarian approach: no permit needed. Arizona is about to join that exclusive club.) Every time a carry law was debated, anti-gun activists predicted outbreaks of gun violence after fender-benders, card games and domestic quarrels.
What happened?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/06/23/guns_save_lives_106057.html
Democrat voters = low IQs
June 28th, 2010
12:45 pm
CJ
So do you think this 80 year old black man in Chicago should be jailed for shooting a repeat intruder on the south side of Chicago?
80-Year-Old Man Shoots And Kills Burglar In Home
A Chicago man says his 80-year-old father was protecting his family. His father shot and killed a man who was breaking into his home early Wednesday morning. CBS 2’s Suzanne Le Mignot reports the retired army veteran was determined not to become a victim.
Butch Gant says his father acted in self-defense when an armed intruder entered his family’s East Garfield Park home in the 600 block of North Sawyer Avenue around 5:20 a.m. Wednesday.
“He shot first and my father shot back,” said Butch Gant. “He was protecting himself. He didn’t have no other options. It was either him or daddy. And I’m glad it’s him, not daddy.”
Butch Gant says his father, mother and 12-year-old nephew were in the house when the intruder entered an enclosed back porch, then went to a second window.
“Right there, to the bedroom window and broke it,” said Gant. “That’s where my father saw him.”
His father shot the burglar, who was pronounced dead on the scene, police said.
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/burglar.shot.killed.2.1715871.html
@New name
June 28th, 2010
1:05 pm
New name, I was thinking Jackass the Poster would be a more appropriate screen name, but since Kyle is fine with new name, go with it.
t
June 28th, 2010
1:06 pm
maybe now chicago citizens can now defend themselves from all the thugs. pay attention people, there will be less shootings in chicago because of this. mark this date.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
1:07 pm
Why is it that so many guns sold legally in Georgia end up being used in crimes in other states? I’m not against guns. I have a handgun in my home, but too many guns are being sold to the wrong people.
Also, as long as we want to have easy access to guns we will have people who bought them legally but shot someone any way over some silly thing like what I saw on Dateline last night. A 72 year old man shot his next door neighbors over a silly dispute over a small piece of land and the fact that he didn’t like the fact that their yard wasn’t up to standards.
Democrat voters = low IQs
June 28th, 2010
1:08 pm
“New name, I was thinking Jackass the Poster would be a more appropriate screen name, but since Kyle is fine with new name, go with it.”
Whatever you say, Opus.
Democrat voters = low IQs
June 28th, 2010
1:09 pm
“A 72 year old man shot his next door neighbors over a silly dispute over a small piece of land and the fact that he didn’t like the fact that their yard wasn’t up to standards”
Well, 54 shootings happened last weekend in Chicago. So………I guess your ONE example is trumped by my 54 examples.
Oh well.
Democrat voters = low IQs
June 28th, 2010
1:10 pm
“Why is it that so many guns sold legally in Georgia end up being used in crimes in other states?”
Can you provide a link to that statement? As in, do you have some documented proof?
BADA BING
June 28th, 2010
1:13 pm
Why do liberals hate guns so much? It is a tool, it is not good or evil. When used properly it is like using a hammer or a wrench. It is for protection and obtaining food. The process is corrupted by evil human beings seeking to hurt others. Do away with the criminal, not the gun. You are alive today because your ancestors were a better shot than the people shooting at them. You are alive because your ancestors killed enough food and protected their property and family. They keep you alive today because of their use by the Police and military. You owe your life to guns !
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
1:14 pm
Hey leftys. Since you guys/gals are all about “protecting” us from ourselves, how’s about going and protesting Honda, Toyota, GM etc because cars kill more people than guns.
Idiots
BADA BING
June 28th, 2010
1:15 pm
Daddy, did you organize those communities that shot 52 people last week?
BADA BING
June 28th, 2010
1:17 pm
Ted Kennedy’s car killed more people than all the guns I have ever owned.
CJ
June 28th, 2010
1:18 pm
Kyle, your capacity for snark never ceases to amaze, nor begins to persuade.
There’s no hyperbole in my comment. The Court has wrongly decided that the Constitution gives us the right to keep and bear Arms. The Constitution has no restrictions whatsoever on the kind or quantity of Arms. Therefore, it would be unconstitutional to outlaw individuals developing and maintaining surface-to-air missiles, for example.
Yes, the Heller decision said that there are limits. But such limits are decided entirely and exclusively by the five (unelected) Supreme Court justices—an anti-conservative approach, it seems to me. And any and all such limitations would directly contradict their assertion that the Second Amendment applies to individuals.
CJ
June 28th, 2010
1:19 pm
Correction: “…it would be unconstitutional to outlaw individuals owning surface-to-air missiles, for example.”
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
1:20 pm
“The Court has wrongly decided that the Constitution gives us the right to keep and bear Arms.”
Yet you can’t explain how strict gun laws have failed cities like Chicago.
“to outlaw individuals developing and maintaining surface-to-air missiles, for example.”
How do you get “guns” and surface to air missiles” in the same sentence?
Hey CJ,
Just a guess here. I bet you also think the SC will rule in favor of slavery…..
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
1:21 pm
“Correction: “…it would be unconstitutional to outlaw individuals owning surface-to-air missiles, for example.””
Yeah CJ, cause there are so many gun stores that sell missiles, nukes and plastic explosives.
Intown
June 28th, 2010
1:25 pm
What does a non-gun owning parent now do to protect their children from guns? I don’t want to live in a society where any jerk can carry a freaking gun and where I purportedly now have to in order to keep things equal. What is wrong with people’s values in this country?!
Sweet Home Chicago
June 28th, 2010
1:25 pm
Sadly, I’m neither amazed nor shocked by this ruling or by some of the knuckleheaded responses. People are dying in my hometown while you’re worried about your right to bear guns and be suspicious of the government. As the saying goes, people are too busy getting shot in the ass to care about your right to shoot deer. Last weekend 40 people were shot in Chicago. 4-0. That’s right. Maybe if some of the violence travels into your suburbs some of you might think differently.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/toddler-among-14-shot-overnight-throughout-city.html It’s going to get worse
Intown
June 28th, 2010
1:28 pm
These gun cases are a direct result of a premediated decades long plan by conservative legal groups and the conservative justices to completely re-write the standards for gun laws. And they got most of their ideas from the “liberal-activist” Warren court. Thomas and Scalia planted the seeds in dissenting opinions years before conservatives had the clear majority on the Court.
BADA BING
June 28th, 2010
1:28 pm
The gun haters are also the Taser haters, they don’t want lethal force or non lethal force. They think the Police can ask the criminals nicely to stop committing crimes. For you slow people, when you see the orange laser dot on your chest, 2 things can happen. You will follow the officer’s instructions or you will be tased.It is YOUR CHOICE what happens next. Even liberals can understand that.
Rob
June 28th, 2010
1:28 pm
CJ, nice way to cherry-pick the portions of the amendment YOU think should be read completely out of context, while accusing others of doing the same. In context, especially the complete context of the other writings on the topic by the Founders, and the definition of “well-regulated militia” with which they say they were working, your arguments are blatantly false.
In the US, gun control laws, especially those regulating whether people can carry loaded guns in public for self-protection, have been massively relaxed. In that time period violent crime, gun crime, and even gun accidents have consistently declined. Just last month the FBI released their report stating that this trend continued again over the last year, as it has in previous years. Chicago is one of the few US cities where that trend is reversed, with higher gun crime rates since their ban was enacted.
On the other hand, Great Britain and Australia virtually banned private gun ownership (they DID ban handguns and semi-automatic rifles), and both countries have seen massive increases in violent crime. Both have violent crime rates well above that of the US. In particular they’ve both experienced huge increases in gun crime. GB has seen a greater than 200% increase in gun crime, with the worst areas experiencing over a 500% increase. In Australia some areas have surpassed a 600% increase. Last year London saw a 40% increase in gun crime in just six months! This prompted the previously unarmed London bobbies to start carrying submachine guns.
So, explain again how strict gun laws prevent violent crime, or even gun crime, and how their lack causes such crime. Because no city, state, or country following your logic has yet to see the results you seem to believe they should.
Jason
June 28th, 2010
1:32 pm
Intown,
Don’t worry, the criminals will always have guns.
neo-Carlinist
June 28th, 2010
1:34 pm
I have been a gun owner for most of my adult life. began as a hunter and moved to handguns when I moved to GA and was employed in a (LEGAL) profession which had me carrying large amounts of cash. Despite the fact that I was not required to do so by GA law, I purchased trigger locks and secure all my unloaded weapons. see how this works? some citizens are capable of owning firerms and determining their own ideas about “safety” and “responsibility” sans the advice of Sarah Brady OR the NRA. it’s almost cliche’ but does anyone think criminals buy trigger locks? I’m not some “Dirty Harry” or Charles Bronson vigilante, but I’ll tell you what, a couple months ago I was dining in a south GA beanery with my family and I saw a dude with a Sig Sauer on his hip. He was polite, and friendly and said “please” and “thank you ma’am” to his server. this whole thing borders on ridiculous because guns are here to stay, and that’s on the criminal side, not the John Q. Public side.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
1:35 pm
“What does a non-gun owning parent now do to protect their children from guns?”
Go move to Antarctica. That or move to Fantasyland with Al Gore.
“I don’t want to live in a society where any jerk can carry a freaking gun and where I purportedly now have to in order to keep things equal. What is wrong with people’s values in this country?!”
You live in the wrong country. The USA would not exist without guns. Nor would any other country on Earth.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
1:37 pm
“These gun cases are a direct result of a premediated decades long plan by conservative legal groups and the conservative justices to completely re-write the standards for gun laws.”
They do? Explain George Washington and other founding fathers who used guns to build this country.
“Thomas and Scalia planted the seeds in dissenting opinions years before conservatives had the clear majority on the Court.”
Move to Iran.
commoncents
June 28th, 2010
1:37 pm
Intown: “These gun cases are a direct result of a premediated decades long plan by conservative legal groups and the conservative justices to completely re-write the standards for gun laws”
That sentence already has more words than the 2nd Amendment! This isn’t some scheme concocted by politicians and judges… They are just following an amendment that our country was founded upon which simply states “People can own and carry firearms”
Metro Coach
June 28th, 2010
1:38 pm
CJ, ever heard of a preamble? They’re all throughout the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. The phrase “a well regulated militia being necessary….” is a preamble, explaining why individuals have the right to bear arms. You can’t ignore the part of the 2nd Amendent you don’t like either.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
1:46 pm
People need to be more concerned about this.
Obama Can Shut Down Internet For 4 Months Under New Emergency Powers
President Obama will be handed the power to shut down the Internet for at least four months without Congressional oversight if the Senate votes for the infamous Internet ‘kill switch’ bill, which was approved by a key Senate committee yesterday and now moves to the floor
http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-can-shut-down-internet-for-4-months-under-new-emergency-powers.html
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
1:48 pm
And then there’s this…
CIA’s Panetta: Iran has enough uranium for 2 bombs
CIA Director Leon Panetta says Iran probably has enough low-enriched uranium for two nuclear weapons, but that it likely would take two years to build the bombs.
Panetta also says he is doubtful that recent U.N. penalties will put an end to Iran’s nuclear ambitions.
He says the penalties could help to weaken Tehran’s government by creating serious economic problems. But he adds, “Will it deter them from their ambitions with regards to nuclear capability? Probably not.”
Panetta tells ABC’s “This Week” that there is “some debate” as to whether Iran will proceed with the bomb.
Asked about a potential Israeli military strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities, Panetta said he thinks Israel is giving the U.S. room on the diplomatic and political fronts.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP’s earlier story is below.
yahoo news source
songbird
June 28th, 2010
1:59 pm
2,771 of the 34,617 crime scene guns recovered nationwide last year were first sold in Georgia. Behind Georgia were Florida (2,636), Virginia (2,333) and Texas (2,220).
Churchill's MOM
June 28th, 2010
2:00 pm
My Husband & I both have concealed carry permits. At age 8, I started hunting birds with my father. That said I do not understand why Georgia gives out CC permits without requiring a class in gun handling and what is legal & not. My Husband & I have taken several courses even though they are not required and yes that’s a Colt Cobra in my pocket book most of the time.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
2:03 pm
I forgot to say, those guns were bought in gun shops, not on the street.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
2:04 pm
“2,771 of the 34,617 crime scene guns recovered nationwide last year were first sold in Georgia. Behind Georgia were Florida (2,636), Virginia (2,333) and Texas (2,220).”
Ok, so that means there were 31,846 gun crimes that didn’t involve GA. You stated that GA led the nation in guns sales to criminals.
So, where is that proof?
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
2:04 pm
“I forgot to say, those guns were bought in gun shops, not on the street.”
Proof please.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
2:05 pm
songbird
Curious, why do you not blame the criminals who committed the crimes?
CJ
June 28th, 2010
2:09 pm
Rob: “CJ, nice way to cherry-pick the portions of the amendment YOU think should be read completely out of context,…”
I don’t believe that any portion of the Constitution should be read “out of context.” To the contrary, the first half of the Second Amendment provides context for the second half.
When statistics are cited, such as Great Britian seeing a 200 percent increase, what would that be in hard numbers–an increase from ten firearm deaths to twenty, or something to that effect? The lastest statistic I’ve seen for the U.S. was something in the neighborhood of 31,000 firearm deaths in the U.S. in 2006. I’m sorry, but our friends in the U.K. and Australia aren’t even the ballpark, whether you measure firearm deaths in rates or hard numbers.
In addition Rob, you conflated violent crime rates with firearm rates in your comment? Two different statistics.
With regard to all this nonsense about crime rates in cities with strict gun laws, when such laws are only enacted at the local level (usually in response to increasing gun violence), they can only work to mitigate the damage, not eliminate it. As evidence, you might want to read the following USA Today article: “More Georgia guns again show up at out-of-state crime scenes than any other state”
CJ
June 28th, 2010
2:13 pm
The USA Today article that I linked to above referenced an AJC article. Here’s the AJC link:
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-guns-still-showing-548840.html
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
2:14 pm
“When statistics are cited, such as Great Britian seeing a 200 percent”
Hate to break your little bleeding heart but we’re not GB.
“I’m sorry, but our friends in the U.K. and Australia aren’t even the ballpark, whether you measure firearm deaths in rates or hard numbers.”
The UK is fast becoming a Muslim state. Australians own and carry guns.
“With regard to all this nonsense about crime rates in cities with strict gun laws, when such laws are only enacted at the local level (usually in response to increasing gun violence), they can only work to mitigate the damage, not eliminate it.”
HAHAH! You can’t even admit that those laws don’t work. What is evident is that left wingers like you are having a really hard time defending strict gun laws.
“As evidence, you might want to read the following USA Today article: “More Georgia guns again show up at out-of-state crime scenes than any other state””
2771 guns found. That’s not a lot of guns considering how many gun crimes were committed last year?
Also, if strict gun laws are needed how come cities with strict gun laws have higher crime rates than cities without strict gun laws?
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
2:15 pm
CJ
Why do you blame GA for criminals who would get a hold of guns/weapons no matter WHO sold it to them?
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
2:16 pm
CJ
Do you even realize that GB has a much smaller population than the US?
You know it's true
June 28th, 2010
2:21 pm
The militia at the time of the Constitution was the equivalent of the modern day national guard and it’s in the constitution that the President is the commander of the militia. Do you honestly think the 2nd amendment was talking about concealed handgun laws in localities or your right to a machine gun? If so, your view of the Constitution that you claim to uphold is warped.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
2:23 pm
Go ahead and ban guns…..if you are too stupid to understand why the Jews could not fight back against Hitler. It was called gun registration then and it will have the same net effect now if Obama could get it through. Read his speech in 08 in Colorado about a civilian police force larger and better funded than our Military…sounds like who? Hint, SS.
Lazarus
June 28th, 2010
2:24 pm
God has killed more people then guns…
Swampdawg
June 28th, 2010
2:24 pm
5:4 Huh? What will happened when Obama adds 2 more Progressive Liberal Judges? Will the country divide again?
Hillbilly Deluxe
June 28th, 2010
2:28 pm
If the fact that they’ll face a murder rap doesn’t keep somebody from shooting someone, do you really think they are going to worry about violating a gun law?
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
2:28 pm
Big D
Interesting points.
Here are a couple of observations with left wingers.
1: This morning Jay Bookman defended Robert Byrd yet has stated that the right is full of racists.
2: The left called George W Bush a Nazi yet left wingers use Nazi tactics to get things implemented.
3: The left hates capitalism yet they make their money off of it.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
2:30 pm
YKIT. the constitutions only job was the common defense, every thing else is a states right. For those who do not know what that means…a foreign power. The 2nd amendment is for protection from “Tyranny” and does mean you can have the most modern weapon of the day.
giant p
June 28th, 2010
2:37 pm
Guns are for cowardly wasps….
Big D
June 28th, 2010
2:44 pm
CKG, ask the question of your liberal friends why was MLK and his father registered Republicans. Then ask them why MLK changed parties…answer: Bobby Kennedy went down to B-ham and bailed him out with the provision he became a Democrat…ground zero for putting blacks back on the plantation. Now most are too ignorant to read and know who sponsored the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the constitution. They also forgot who the Dixie-Crats were and who REALLY fought against the voting rights act. You can’t save fools from their folly.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
2:47 pm
GP, no, illegal guns are for the punks in the hood that cause good black people to put burglar bars on their windows….or did you think that was to keep the KKK out.
Idiot.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
2:48 pm
Hello, GA has the largest number of guns sold in gun shops, i.e., legally sold, that end up in used in crimes. The count is the count or can’t you do math. The data is from the an article printed in the ajc The source is the ATF. They trace guns used in crimes.
giant p
June 28th, 2010
2:49 pm
ckg, don’t forget to ask them why republicans hate gays, blacks, jews, and immigrants…
songbird
June 28th, 2010
2:51 pm
I do blame the criminals that committed the crimes. My point is it’s too easy to buy guns in some states like GA that have lax laws. I’m not against people owning guns. As I said before I have one myself. I’m against it being so easy to get one. You have to pass a test and get a license to drive a car, why not a gun. As your moniker implies, cars kill more people than guns.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
2:53 pm
GP, are you completely stupid!
Please don’t get on a blog and show everybody you can’t assimilate anything.
Read my 2:44 and then comment on who hates who.
Obama ( who by the way is Black) has done more against Israel than any known President and by the way they ARE Jews.
Call it like it is.
June 28th, 2010
2:56 pm
CJ, what you don’t quite seem to get, is that it is our personal freedoms that makes America so great. You can’t compare America to other countries because there is no comparison. We are the worlds greatest super power because of who we are and what we do. And besides the right to vote for who we desire as our political leader, the right to carry arms carries untold power for us.
Why do we have an election every 4 years for a president? It’s because we hold the power. Why do not have a dictator? It’s because we hold the power. Throughout history, governments become corrupt and take the power away from the people, it happens everywhere, except here. It is up to the people to keep tyranny out of the land.
Go throughout history and you will see over and over the first thing any dictator, emperor, king or queen do and that is to disarm the people.
It’s not just a bumper sticker. “Fear the government, which fears your guns!”
Big D
June 28th, 2010
2:57 pm
Songbird, Detroit makes more cars that kill more people than guns. Milwaukee makes more beer that gets more people drunk….that kills more people than guns…whats your point !
songbird
June 28th, 2010
2:57 pm
Big D – blacks were initially Republicans because of the Dixiecrats. However, most of the former Dixiecrats switched parties and are now Republicans. The members of both parties have literally switched places over the years. The Republican Party I used to vote for was the party of Lincoln and Rockfellar. The current Republican Party is run by right wing extremists. If you look at the paper written by Ruy Texieria, it traces the demographics of the past 20 years for both parties and who are their voters. You will see some remarkable changes have taken place over that time in the demographics of both parties. Read the paper for yourself. If you google his name, you should find the paper.
Intown
June 28th, 2010
2:58 pm
Jason: It’s more likely my kid will blow his own head off in the basement of some gun-owning friend than it is that some criminal will successfully attack me because I don’t have a gun.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
2:59 pm
Call it like it is, Well said.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
3:03 pm
My point would be that either used improperly can cause death but we require drivers to pass a test but not to buy and use a gun. Why?
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:04 pm
Songbird, there are more references to the “Democrat” party of Kennedy being overrun by radicals, liberals and leftest than the conversion of “Dixie-Crats” to republicans, that’s an old Liberal ploy to shift blame. Kennedy said” Do not ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country”.
That just doesn’t fly with you Liberal Dems anymore.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:08 pm
songbird
Explain Robert Byrd.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
3:09 pm
Never said I was a liberal Dem – you are assuming which is why I don’t like the conservatives on this blog. You may far too many assumptions based on your narrow view of who people are. I am definitely more liberal but not irresponsible. I am well educated, have worked for the same company for 25 years, have a six figure income and own a home. So as Benny Hill used to say “when you assume, you make an a$$ out of you and me”.
No guns
June 28th, 2010
3:09 pm
@andygrdzli very nice, I strongly agree with you.
I am in favor of strict gun laws.
You are more likely to use gun on your loved ones out of anger or mistake etc.
Material things could be regain, but not loved ones.
There are other means to Self Defense
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:10 pm
songbird
If the GOP is so racist why does your party call Condi, Thomas, Steele and many other black conservatives names like Uncle Tom and Aunt Jamima?
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:11 pm
“I am definitely more liberal but not irresponsible.”
That would make you…..liberal.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:12 pm
“You are more likely to use gun on your loved ones out of anger or mistake etc.”
That is a flat out lie. Explain Chicago. Are the thugs and gangs killing their “loved ones” when they gun down innocent kids on the streets?
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:12 pm
“There are other means to Self Defense”
Yep, like .357, .45 calibers, shot guns, Glocks, Berretas etc…
giant p
June 28th, 2010
3:13 pm
98% of guntards don’t regulary floss….
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:14 pm
Songbird, I tried years ago when Roy Barnes was Governor to institute a plan to test all gun applicants that had not received military training by building facilities that create revenue for police. Your drivers license would contain your qualifications( hunting only,carry permit) and would allow the police to confiscate and jail persons who carry illegally. You would also have to present this when you buy a gun or ammunition. This relieves the state of the burden of gun registration, it involves the person only.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
3:14 pm
There’s nothing wrong with being liberal. I’m also self sufficient, i.e., not living off the government and so many conservatives on this blog assume of all liberals.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:17 pm
“There’s nothing wrong with being liberal. ”
You said you weren’t liberal and then you said you were……liberal. Lie much?
“I’m also self sufficient, i.e., not living off the government and so many conservatives on this blog assume of all liberals.”
No one ever said all liberals live off the government. Lots of liberals live off their conservative parents money as well. Others live off their trust funds. Others live off the money they made by suing doctors and insurance companies. IE John Edwards.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:17 pm
Big D
But liberals think that showing an id is racist. Cynthia Tucker said so.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:18 pm
You assume I’m a conservative and chastise me for assuming you are a lib, hypocrisy.
I am a conservative and I sound like one, you my dear sound like a Lib. Just a fact.
giant p
June 28th, 2010
3:19 pm
99% of guntards own a tinkerbell night light…
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:21 pm
GP, 100% of Liberal leftist are retards.
Craig
June 28th, 2010
3:21 pm
Once again, libs are on the wrong side of the issue. And songbird, slavery is not over. The dems are the largest slave owners in the world by making minorities dependent on entightlements. By the way, Roosevelt knew passing the New Deal would make people depend on democrats way back then.
fred
June 28th, 2010
3:22 pm
Nice to see all you conservative bloggers trying to convince yourselves your not racist, priceless.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:25 pm
“Nice to see all you conservative bloggers trying to convince yourselves your not racist, priceless.”
And nice to see that your grand wizard kkk member Robert Byrd has left the building after 50 + years stinking up the senate floor.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
3:25 pm
I don’t live off my parents money or any of the other BS comments you made above. I put myself thru college and grad school. More and more college grads are voting Democratic. Check out the statistics for yourself if you don’t believe me. More working class people are voting Republican now. Like I said before the makeup of both parties are changing and have been changing over the past 20 years.
jconservative
June 28th, 2010
3:26 pm
Irony.
A lot of conservatives, me included, are applauding the McDonald decision. But it has not been that long since a big portion of the conservative movement, me not included, wanted to ditch the 14th Amendment just because of the Courts application of the “due process clause”.
Constitutional law is never as simple as it seems.
What the Court did today was say that the “due process clause” of the 14th Amendment makes the 2nd Amendment applicable to the states. The Court DID NOT say that the 2nd Amendment applied to the states on its on merits.
And yes, that is legislating from the bench. Always has been and always will be. That is what makes it a “living Constitution” even though many “proclaimed conservatives” shutter at the term.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:28 pm
“I don’t live off my parents money or any of the other BS comments you made above.”
Never said you did, songy song song. All I did was give more examples of how libs make money. It’s funny that you got all upset about it.
“More and more college grads are voting Democratic.”
Uh, not for long since they can’t get jobs after graduating.
“Like I said before the makeup of both parties are changing and have been changing over the past 20 years.”
Yep, and in November you’ll see BIG changes in the democrat party.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:28 pm
Hey Fred, have you listened to Louis Faracan, Jessy Jackson, Al Sharpton…shall I go on. Give you three guesses what party they belong to. You will never see a conservative spew out anywhere near the hideous racist crap the Democrats do…you are in a self induced holier than thou coma.
Craig
June 28th, 2010
3:29 pm
In the latest Gallup poll, conservatives out number libs 2-1. And yes, college kids come out dems, which has been going on for years, and once they get a dose of reality most of them change. I was one of those college dems until I saw that dems wanted to bleed me for being successful.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:31 pm
Songbird:3:25, wow…doesn’t say much for higher education.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:31 pm
Craig
It’s because their commie professors, who live off of tenure, tell them who to vote for. Remember, D’s get degrees and a lot of college students are living proof.
Craig
June 28th, 2010
3:32 pm
Fred, why does a racist always use the race card? Answer: because they can not win a debate unless they throw that card out. It don’t work anymore my friend that to Barrak Obama being our President. GAME OVER!
fred
June 28th, 2010
3:33 pm
craig, there’s no accounting for taste, that’s why so many morons watch fox news…
Craig
June 28th, 2010
3:33 pm
Cars, you are correct and like I said a lot of them change their tune once they get a wiff of the liberal smell of politics.
fred
June 28th, 2010
3:34 pm
songbird, cry me a river, nobody cares about your pathetic existence…
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:34 pm
songbird
Another fact about liberals. Liberals get degrees in fields such as: Liberal Arts, Fine Arts, Pottery Making, Afro-American Studies, Philosophy, Journalism, Psychology and Environmental Law.
What did you get a degree in?
Craig
June 28th, 2010
3:35 pm
Oh Fred, you pulled a double whammy here. First you use the race card then the Fox News card. You truly are a racist big guy! Keep up the great work. You are a shining example to your party and race.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:35 pm
“Cars, you are correct and like I said a lot of them change their tune once they get a wiff of the liberal smell of politics.”
Yep, for instance, once they start paying taxes and seeing that mommy and daddy won’t pay for their $200 hair cut, they begin to realize that Democrats suck.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:36 pm
Fred, Let’s see there is one Fox news and then there is ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN all liberal. That’s a lot more morons on your side I do believe.
Rafe Hollister
June 28th, 2010
3:36 pm
Libs suppossedly like equality, so why they don’t like guns is mystifying. God made men, Samuel Colt made them equal.
I agree with John Stossel, everyone should pack one. Guns create a much more polite and gentle society. People speak quietly and respectfully and smile at strangers. I can’t imagine a worse society where all the criminals are armed and the rest of society have to protect themselves with baseball bats and matchettes. Don’t say that defense is the job of the police. In this country where every city and county is broke, the police are few and far between and often minutes and a dumbass 911 operator away.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
3:37 pm
Bachelors in Business Admin and Master of Science in Statistics.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:37 pm
“You truly are a racist big guy!”
Craig, care to prove that Fred or anyone else is a racist? How’s about explaining your beloved Robert Byrd who hung people….
“You are a shining example to your party and race.”
You ma’am, are a shining example utter stupidity.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:37 pm
“Bachelors in Business Admin and Master of Science in Statistics.”
So, you’re a Secretary?
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:38 pm
“That’s a lot more morons on your side I do believe.”
Yep, and fortunately for us all, those left wing “news” outlets are going bankrupt like Air America. MSNBC and CNN have poor ratings.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
3:38 pm
Director of Business Planning – what’s your job title Cars?
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:39 pm
“Director of Business Planning – what’s your job title Cars?”
Masters in Industrial Engineering. Thanks for asking, Songy song.
Craig
June 28th, 2010
3:41 pm
Cars, I think you have been hijacked. I am a conservative, Byrd was a liberal and one time member of the KKK. Most people who scream racism on these blogs tend to be racists. That is my opininion and open for debate
songbird
June 28th, 2010
3:41 pm
That’s your education, I asked what is your job – since you assumed I was a secretary. lol
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:41 pm
“Director of Business Planning”
Is that the new politically correct term for secretary now?
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:41 pm
GP, you so funny!! All those comedians out of work you trian ( intentionally misspelled )to be funny. When you have no means of an intelligent retort you cecum to asinine insults.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
3:42 pm
Cars – They can call me whatever they want as long as they pay me what they do.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:42 pm
“That’s your education, I asked what is your job – since you assumed I was a secretary. lol”
I own my own business, songy. SO I guess you can call me, boss man.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
3:44 pm
OK Boss Man
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:45 pm
“OK Boss Man”
That’s more like it! Kidding.
mrs. w.
June 28th, 2010
3:47 pm
No matter how strict the gun laws the criminals are still going to have guns so basically this whole argument is moot. If you don’t own one I suggest that you go to a gun range – take some lessons and then see what you think. I am not some gun totin’ redneck mama but when I am at home I am locked and loaded, as is my right. I for one do not plan to give that right up – if they take that right away THEN I guess I will be a criminal.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:47 pm
“Although that could be considered flirting by some.”
I don’t think anyone took that as flirting.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:48 pm
Fred, sounds like you know something about fat-ass women and trailer parks.
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
3:48 pm
“Fred, sounds like you know something about fat-ass women and trailer parks.”
I’m sure Fred knows a lot about things we really don’t want to know about.
Craig
June 28th, 2010
3:48 pm
Fred, you just keep proving my points about racists and you. You are a great example of uneducated libtards. I would ask you to keep my wife’s ass out of it but, you do not have the class or inteligence for conversation to do that so I will accept your ignorance and be glad you vote democratic.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:50 pm
Songbird, I think there is hope for you. BTW, how did you get the handle.
fred
June 28th, 2010
3:53 pm
craig, there are two “l”s in intelligence….
songbird
June 28th, 2010
3:54 pm
I’m a singer in my spare time.
Craig
June 28th, 2010
3:55 pm
Wow fred, there is hope for you and you did not make a racist comment. Thank you for the correction and keep on fightin’ the fight. You party needs as much help as possible.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:55 pm
WOW FRED, you get today’s big literary prize…a lobotomy….and all the world cheered.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
3:55 pm
My political affiliation has shifted over time from Republican to Democrat to leaning Libertarian lately.
fred
June 28th, 2010
3:57 pm
big d, craig, cars:
Your viral klan meeting was tops, good times! Off to day-care to pick up your kids future bosses….Enjoy!
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:57 pm
That’s cool, I do a one man show on acoustic guitar and a piano show also.
Helps to knock the edge off reality.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
3:58 pm
Fred, HA HA HA, yea right.
Craig
June 28th, 2010
3:59 pm
Fred leaves on a racist note! Shocking? I think not!
Cars kill more people than guns
June 28th, 2010
4:00 pm
“Your viral klan meeting was tops, good times! Off to day-care to pick up your kids future bosses….Enjoy!”
It must suck to be you, ma’am. Oh, and when I see an Amber Alert I’ll know exactly who to tell the Feds to be on the lookout for.
See ya on the 6 o’clock news.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
4:01 pm
It must be difficult to be Fred.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
4:02 pm
Big D – I agree. Music keeps me sane. I’ve worked in Corporate America for 25+ years. I’ve survived layoffs every 18 months to 2 years for the past 10 years. I’ve watched good friends get laid off. Some of them land on their feet, some don’t, especially the older ones. But that’s another discussion for another blog.
BREAKING NEWS
June 28th, 2010
4:03 pm
AMBER ALERT!!!!!!!!
Two girls were kidnapped from Kids R Us in South Dekalb County. Please be on the lookout for “FRED”
He is described as: Fat, stupid and having an ungodly smell to him. He was last seen driving a U-haul full of cow manure and trash bags.
Craig
June 28th, 2010
4:08 pm
Big D, it is not difficult to be Fred. Remove all common sense that you have. Blame all your probllems on Bush and white people and call your ememies wife a lard ass. You then become Fred the libtard.
Craig
June 28th, 2010
4:10 pm
Fred is not here so please excuse my typos on the last post. My apologies.
giant p
June 28th, 2010
4:15 pm
Craig, reading comprehension is not your strong suite, Fred references your lard ass not your wife’s, re-read his post.
I knew it
June 28th, 2010
4:15 pm
Daley Vows New Gun Ordinances
As expected, Mayor Daley and Chicago’s City Council are circling the wagons to defend against an unfavorable decision by the Supreme Court concerning the city’s gun ban.
Daley said the city would have in place a new ordinance aimed at making it difficult to purchase and own a gun in Chicago.
“We’ll publicly propose a new ordinance very soon,” Daley said at an afternoon press conference concerning the gun ban.
“As a city we must continue to stand up ..and fight for a ban on assault weapons .. as well as a crackdown on gun shops,” Daley said. “We are a country of laws not a nation of guns.”
Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Daley-Vows-New-Gun-Ordinances-97328384.html#ixzz0sBHQwdxq
Craig
June 28th, 2010
4:20 pm
Sorry giant p, I will try harder to read the posts clearly while I am at work. You are a great American.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
4:20 pm
Ignore GP, he’s the product of incest.
Craig
June 28th, 2010
4:23 pm
Big D, I know that and you know that but, I am a compassionate conservative. Little p deserves our kindness and understanding.
Nope nothing to see here folks, move along..
June 28th, 2010
4:25 pm
Judge to Blagojevich lawyers: You can’t see President Obama’s interview with FBI
Judge James Zagel denies a defense request to gain access to the FBI report summarizing then President-Elect Obama’s 2008 interview with federal investigators.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/blago/2010/06/judge_to_blagojevich_lawyers_y.html
Nope nothing to see here folks, move along..
June 28th, 2010
4:26 pm
Can’t see his FBI interview
Can’t see his birth certificate
Can’t see his college records
Can’t see anything about Obama except his photo ops
Big D
June 28th, 2010
4:27 pm
Songbird, I was a musician before I was drafted ( yes I’m that old ) and along with the G.I. bill I played and taught my way through grad school at UAB and post grad at G.T. I was self employed ( Licensed engineering firm) until two years ago when I sold the company to a large chemical company with a five year contract ( thanking God ).with someone else to worry about the bottom line. I still do the music like you..it’s my first love and my grounding.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
4:29 pm
Contemplating President Mitch Daniels
Back in January I wrote an essay lamenting the lack of a credible Republican national leader, a man or woman who’d take the initiative to barnstorm across the country for GOP Congressional candidates, and not incidentally collect I.O.U’s for a 2012 challenge to President Obama. Newt Gingrich was brilliant in this capacity in 1994, and had his alternating bouts of bluster and timidity not done him in, it’s possible he could’ve displaced the tired Bob Dole in the ’96 election. Richard Nixon, ignoring his press obits, and public image as a political laughing-stock, virtually guaranteed his ’68 nomination by successfully traversing the country in ‘66, pressing flesh before audiences tiny and large, and emerged as the main beneficiary of the GOP’s comeback just two years after LBJ’s landslide.
http://www.splicetoday.com/politics-and-media/contemplating-president-mitch-daniels
Big D
June 28th, 2010
4:30 pm
Obama # 1 reason to be a Republican.
giant p
June 28th, 2010
4:32 pm
craig/big d, Thanks, but no need to apologize, after all, if conservatives didn’t misqoute people they would have nothing let to say….
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
4:34 pm
Big D, American Jews ALWAYS vote against Republicans by an enormous margin.
It would seem you non-conservative “friends of Israel” are really not very credible.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
4:35 pm
Bob, I just had my Jon Voight for President stickers printed. He may be just an actor, but from what I can tell ( with OBOZO ) all this idiot filled country wants is a pretty face that reads well. At leased Jon has had a read job along with some balls.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
4:35 pm
“Thanks, but no need to apologize, after all, if conservatives didn’t misqoute people they would have nothing let to say….”
Interesting. A gal like giant p, which to me stands for giant p%$$y, is on here boasting about someone misquoting someone else about a fat person.
Also interesting is the fact that giant p misspelled several words in her comment.
Guess liberals are stupid after all.
lourdes
June 28th, 2010
4:36 pm
What happened to all the “W’ bumper stickers are they sitting in a warehouse in Crawford, TX?
Big D
June 28th, 2010
4:36 pm
EH, I never said all American Jews were bright.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
4:38 pm
“American Jews ALWAYS vote against Republicans by an enormous margin. ”
American Jews-in-name-only vote against Republicans by an enormous margin.
FYT
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
4:38 pm
“What happened to all the “W’ bumper stickers are they sitting in a warehouse in Crawford, TX?”
Run on sentence much, lourdes?
lourdes
June 28th, 2010
4:38 pm
bob, sorry the hemorrhoid cream didn’t work for you, try not to pick your butt so much, it might help.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
4:39 pm
GP, do you have …anything to say that requires some form of cognizant thought?
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
4:41 pm
“bob, sorry the hemorrhoid cream didn’t work for you, try not to pick your butt so much, it might help.”
lourdes, I’m so sorry public schools failed you.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
4:42 pm
What is it about Liberals and referring to their rear ends…sounds like some form of early child abuse or recreational drug abuse.
Long Jon
June 28th, 2010
4:43 pm
Why would Jews vote for the party of hate (Republicans)?
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
4:43 pm
Big D
I was just thinking the same thing. lourdes is the second or third left wing retard to bring up butts and a$$es today.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
4:44 pm
“Why would Jews vote for the party of hate (Republicans)?”
Maybe because the GOP doesn’t want Israel destroyed like the commie democrats….
Big D
June 28th, 2010
4:44 pm
LJ, your right …we hate stupid people, they screw up a great country.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
4:44 pm
Big D
Maybe lourdes had a bad weekend experience at the pride parade.
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
4:45 pm
Check out the statistics, crybabies. You’re lucky when you get 10% of the Jewish vote.
MOTs with their increidbly accurate BS detectors know you most of you liberal Republicans are both stupid and dangerous.
Not a good combination, from their standpoint.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
4:47 pm
Bob, your right I have noticed a fascination with their hind ends, all conversation evolves to their butts. It must be that their brains are located there.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
4:49 pm
EH, are you drunk…you are making no sense at all.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
4:49 pm
“You’re lucky when you get 10% of the Jewish vote.”
Considering the GOP has had more presidents than the Democrats in the last 30 years……
“MOTs with their increidbly accurate BS detectors know you most of you liberal Republicans are both stupid and dangerous.”
Funny that you call people stupid when you can’t even spell simple words like incredible.
Abe Polstein
June 28th, 2010
4:50 pm
Jews can’t relate to a conservative movement that demonizes minorities and immigrants, hence they vote Democrat.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
4:51 pm
“Not a good combination, from their standpoint.”
No, but most American Jews are not orthodox. It’s equivalent of a Christian calling themselves a Christian and saying that they don’t believe in Christ.
An oxymoron if you will.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
4:51 pm
“Jews can’t relate to a conservative movement that demonizes minorities and immigrants, hence they vote Democrat.”
Yet they’ll vote for a guy who hung black people? Robert Byrd.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
4:53 pm
Abe, I’m really glad you cleared that one up for all of us liberal republicans. When Obama and company ( Muslims ) come and saw your head off like Daniel Pearl I will now understand and stand idly by.
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
4:58 pm
Bobby, wanna educate yourself and look up these numbers? Are you bigots and xenophobes (as Abe notes) really so dense you think “real” Jews vote overwhelmingly Republican but they just somehow don’t ever get counted?
And this? “Considering the GOP has had more presidents than the Democrats in the last 30 years……”
WTF does that have to do with the topic at hand?
And Little D, when he gets flummoxed, he goes to the “You’re drunk” card like some slow seventh grader.
No wonder you neanderthals got annihilated in the past two elections…
Lourdes
June 28th, 2010
4:59 pm
I’d like to thank the Jews for killing Jesus.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
5:00 pm
EH, alright …your stoned….That better.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
5:00 pm
I think one reason Jews vote for Democrats is the influence of the fundamentalist Christians on the Republican Party.
Not sure there are many Jews living in West Va. lol
The left is for chicks
June 28th, 2010
5:01 pm
Leftys want protection and comfort. The government is their big, strong man.They trust and submit to govt. They love government.
Liberty and freedom mean little to the lefty. They are soft. They drive silly little cars. That big F150 is scarey ! Guns -even toys- forgetaboutit.
I can understand a female dem. That makes sense. But a man?! Just take a look at Jay Bookmans pic. Dang. Rachel Maddow is more man than that dude.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:01 pm
“Are you bigots and xenophobes (as Abe notes) really so dense you think “real” Jews vote overwhelmingly Republican but they just somehow don’t ever get counted?”
Hey ma’am, can you please point out anything racist that any conservative has said on this blog?
“WTF does that have to do with the topic at hand?”
What does your Jew comment have to do with this topic, retard?
“No wonder you neanderthals got annihilated in the past two elections…”
See you in November, troglodyte!
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:02 pm
“I’d like to thank the Jews for killing Jesus.”
lourdes meet stupid. Stupid meet lourdes.
Big D
June 28th, 2010
5:04 pm
“Quitin Time” I’s Da One Dat Says “Quitin Time”
Lourdes
June 28th, 2010
5:05 pm
Bob, Christianity is predicated on Jesus rising from the dead, he needed a little help getting into the tomb.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:05 pm
“I think one reason Jews vote for Democrats is the influence of the fundamentalist Christians on the Republican Party. ”
What about the influence of Islam on the democrats? Kind of ironic.
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
5:05 pm
OK, you two fifth grade anti-Semites, go sell your Republistupid somewhere else:
87 percent of Jews vote Democrat
Democratic Party wins largest percentage of Jewish support since 1994. Elections expert: Jews voted for candidates good for Israel, but also focused on other issues
Yitzhak Benhorin Published: 11.08.06/ Israel News
WASHINGTON – American Jews expressed flagrant support for Democratic candidates for Congress, contributing to a turnaround in the House of Representatives. According to a CNN sampling of voters, 87 percent of Jewish voters voted Democrat.
This was the highest percentage of support for Democrats since the Republicans took over Congress in 1994.
The Republican Party tried to frighten Jewish voters during the election campaign, primarily with their ads in Jewish newspapers, but no one was buying.
In this election, Jews voted for candidates they thought would be good for Israel.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:05 pm
“Bob, Christianity is predicated on Jesus rising from the dead, he needed a little help getting into the tomb.”
lourdes, you is one messed up crack head.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:08 pm
“OK, you two fifth grade anti-Semites, go sell your Republistupid somewhere else:”
Again, who said anything racist or anti-semitic?
“Democratic Party wins largest percentage of Jewish support since 1994. Elections expert: Jews voted for candidates good for Israel, but also focused on other issues”
So why did they vote for Kerry and Obama? Both of them hate Israel.
What I find ironic is the fact that the democrat party has/had a member of the KKK in it yet people like Enormous H calls Republicans, racist.
“In this election, Jews voted for candidates they thought would be good for Israel.”
Oh well, looks like Obama turned out to be a bad hangover.
The left is for chicks
June 28th, 2010
5:08 pm
The gun thing pretty much over.Lefty lost. Even the full blown, criminal freaks and commies on democratic underground are split on the issue. Guns are not going away. And rightwingers? the same goes for abortion.
songbird
June 28th, 2010
5:08 pm
Also, Jews have been discriminated against in this country for years. My grandfather was not allowed to join the Country Club of VA because he was Jewish. This was a long time ago, but old habits die hard, and frankly the Republican Party doesn’t reach out to Jews in any specific way.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:09 pm
Enormous H
1: Point out any racist or anti-semitic comment from anyone on this blog.
2: Grow up.
3: Try to curb your hypocrisy.
Bottom line: It must suck to be you.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:10 pm
“Also, Jews have been discriminated against in this country for years”
Yeah, by democrats like Obama who said he’d side with muslims over jews.
“My grandfather was not allowed to join the Country Club of VA because he was Jewish.”
And that has WHAT to do with conservatives?
“This was a long time ago, but old habits die hard, and frankly the Republican Party doesn’t reach out to Jews in any specific way.”
Yeah, except for giving Israel money, arms and humanitarian aid.
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
5:12 pm
They voted for Kerry and Obama you dunce, because they don’t trust you neo-Nazis.
Duh…
Al Gore cheated on his wife with mother nature
June 28th, 2010
5:12 pm
Enormous H
Why do you hate white people?
Al Gore cheated on his wife with mother nature
June 28th, 2010
5:12 pm
“They voted for Kerry and Obama you dunce, because they don’t trust you neo-Nazis.”
Enormous H is one stupid lady.
Al Gore cheated on his wife with mother nature
June 28th, 2010
5:13 pm
Enormous Horses @ss
You must either have the IQ of a carrot, or you’re a closet racist.
No one has written anything anti-semitic or racist. Playing the race card gets you nowhere.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:15 pm
Enormous H writes: They voted for Kerry and Obama you dunce, because they don’t trust you neo-Nazis.
Please prove that I am a neo-nazi and a racist. Come on, prove it.
You are a classless pile of dung.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:16 pm
“Duh…”
That word sums of Enormous H.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:17 pm
Anyone else notice how ugly Kagan is?
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
5:19 pm
And the truth shall set you free!
Love that democrat with a small d and Republican with a capital R, Bobby. Reminds me of those racist tracts I saw decades ago – black men and White men. Way to go, bigot.
Take it up with the Jews.
They’ll take your money and vote against you, and play you like the cheap fiddles you are.
giant p
June 28th, 2010
5:22 pm
Jews and Dems believe in science and education, Repubs believe in fairy-tales and home-schoolin’, yet another reason they consistently, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:22 pm
“Reminds me of those racist tracts I saw decades ago – black men and White men. Way to go, bigot.”
Enormous has the IQ of dung. Seriously ma’am, you are a very stupid person.
“Take it up with the Jews.”
Why, I don’t have issues with Jews.
“They’ll take your money and vote against you, and play you like the cheap fiddles you are.”
Pot meet kettle.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:23 pm
“Jews and Dems believe in science and education, Repubs believe in fairy-tales and home-schoolin’, yet another reason they consistently, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.”
If that were true then dems would not have to rely on dead people, convicted felons and welfare recipients for constant support.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:24 pm
Enormous H
I’m going to take a wile guess and say that you believe that Bush caused 911.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:25 pm
whoops: wild not wile
Enormous A$$’s stupidity rubbed off on me there for a sec.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
5:26 pm
democraps believe in stupidity, taking other people’s money, hating rich people and killing babies.
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
5:27 pm
“Why, I don’t have issues with Jews.” Sure. Just the “real” ones, huh Roberto?
I just wish the Jews were smart enough to figure out that you and tiny d are their “real” friends.
LOL.
Enormous H = Low IQ
June 28th, 2010
5:28 pm
“black men and White men. Way to go, bigot.”
Cynthia Tucker move over, Enormous H is in da house! We have a future Cynthia McKinny in da house!
Enormous H = Low IQ
June 28th, 2010
5:29 pm
“Why, I don’t have issues with Jews.” Sure. Just the “real” ones, huh Roberto?
Enormous, do you always lie?
“I just wish the Jews were smart enough to figure out that you and tiny d are their “real” friends.”
Al Gore’s feces has a higher IQ than Enormous H.
Enormous H = Low IQ
June 28th, 2010
5:31 pm
Enormous H stands for:
Enormous Hemorrhoid
Enormous Hindquarters
Enormous Hack
Enormous H = Low IQ
June 28th, 2010
5:33 pm
Another Obama lie
Closing Guantánamo Fades as a Priority
Stymied by political opposition and focused on competing priorities, the Obama administration has sidelined efforts to close the Guantánamo prison, making it unlikely that President Obama will fulfill his promise to close it before his term ends in 2013.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/26/us/politics/26gitmo.html
Obama = Jimmy Carter
June 28th, 2010
5:35 pm
Why Obamacare Is Unpopular
Americans relate to the Founders, not to progressives.
Democrats are reportedly planning to raise $125 million for a campaign to sell Obamacare to the voting public. Apparently, the idea is that what 50-plus presidential speeches and statements and months of congressional debate could not do can be done by spending $125 million on everything from TV ads to community organizers.
Maybe. But there seems to be a more fundamental problem here. The Obama Democrats didn’t set out to produce an unpopular stimulus package, an unpopular health-care bill, and an unpopular cap-and-trade scheme.
http://article.nationalreview.com/437227/why-obamacare-is-unpopular/michael-barone
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
5:37 pm
Keep up the good blogging work “friends of Israel”!
You truly are a credit to your knuckle-dragging cult.
And weak meat, you can try to change the subject to gitmo or whatever garbage you post that nobody reads, but we both know, that like my fellow MOTs, I own you.
And maybe, just maybe, I’ll be back later to taunt you a second time…
Obama = Jimmy Carter
June 28th, 2010
5:39 pm
“You truly are a credit to your knuckle-dragging cult.”
Enormous Buffoon, please move out of your grandmothers trailer and get your GED.
“And weak meat, you can try to change the subject to gitmo or whatever garbage you post that nobody reads, but we both know, that like my fellow MOTs, I own you.”
No ma’am, this isn’t World of Warcraft. The only thing you own is your stupidity and low IQ.
“And maybe, just maybe, I’ll be back later to taunt you a second time…”
Yeah we all know you have pizzas to deliver.
Enormous H, active member of the Black Panter Party
June 28th, 2010
5:41 pm
Down with America! Down with whitey!
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
5:45 pm
Saltine boy/Roberto, you do make me laugh.
I’ve got you so rattled, you’ve changed your names more times in the last twenty minutes than you’ve probably changed your panties this month…
Enormous H, active member of the Black Panter Party
June 28th, 2010
5:46 pm
“I’ve got you so rattled, you’ve changed your names more times in the last twenty minutes than you’ve probably changed your panties this month…”
The only thing that’s rattled is your low IQ, ma’am. Speaking of panties, you need to pick yours off of East Ponce.
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
5:48 pm
So what was it thin, crisp biscuit?
Calling you out fro being an anti-Semite or calling you out on being a racist? Like your pappy and his before him?
giant p
June 28th, 2010
5:49 pm
Enormous H runs this blog! I’m audi-5000 as well, you racist, inbred neocons have fun playing with yourselves….
Enormous H, active member of the Black Panter Party
June 28th, 2010
5:51 pm
“So what was it thin, crisp biscuit?”
Grammar fail.
“Calling you out fro being an anti-Semite or calling you out on being a racist?”
Neither since you have no proof of anything. I’m having a blast making fun of you, though.
“Like your pappy and his before him?”
More grammar fail.
Enormous H, active member of the Black Panter Party
June 28th, 2010
5:52 pm
“Enormous H runs this blog! I’m audi-5000 as well, you racist, inbred neocons have fun playing with yourselves….”
Actually, Enormous H runs a small prostitution ring on East Ponce.
As for playing with yourself, I’m sure you make your sister/mom angry when they have to clean up their keyboard every day because of your chronic problem.
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
5:53 pm
Proof?
Next you’ll be asking the good people on Kyle’s blog to believe you are not a blithering idiot.
Ain’t happening, bonbon.
Lourdes
June 28th, 2010
5:54 pm
Stay classy, Repubs!
Enormous H, active member of the Black Panter Party
June 28th, 2010
5:57 pm
“Proof?”
Since you’ve spent all of your time calling people racist, prove it. Come on troglodyte, prove it.
“Next you’ll be asking the good people on Kyle’s blog to believe you are not a blithering idiot.”
No, you’ve proven yourself an idiot all by yourself.
“Ain’t happening, bonbon.”
You ain’t none too bright.
Enormous H, active member of the Black Panter Party
June 28th, 2010
5:57 pm
“Stay classy, Repubs!”
You too, ditz.
Wendell
June 28th, 2010
6:00 pm
What’s a Panter?
Rev. Menthol Shatbat
June 28th, 2010
6:02 pm
Woo wow wow. The left wingers are throwing a hissy fit today!
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
6:05 pm
Poor widdle cupcake. Unaccustomed to playing defense.
And all of his vapid, rabid attack-b!tches have deserted him.
But they’ll be back, saltine boy. Just play dead until they show.
Rev. Menthol Shatbat
June 28th, 2010
6:10 pm
“But they’ll be back, saltine boy. ”
That’s a racist term.
Enormous H is a racist.
Enormous H has a low IQ
June 28th, 2010
6:12 pm
“And all of his vapid, rabid attack-b!tches have deserted him. ”
Little girl, do you even realize how stupid that sounds? Then again, you have a low IQ.
“Poor widdle cupcake. Unaccustomed to playing defense.”
Oh I get it now, you’re in special ed. Makes so much sense.
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
6:18 pm
Weak meat, saltines are yummy with tomato soup.
And you may try to hide behind that alias, but it is clear from your anti-American writings that you are the nephew of Reverend Wright. Are you a reverse oreo?
And tiny d’s nephew/Roberto/The Black Panter wannabe, though already chastised for writing like a petulant, slow 12 year old girl, bravely soldiers on in his delusional belief that he is relevant.
Enormous H has a low IQ
June 28th, 2010
6:27 pm
“And you may try to hide behind that alias, but it is clear from your anti-American writings that you are the nephew of Reverend Wright. Are you a reverse oreo?”
Little girl, I’m so sorry your inbred parents had to raise you.
“And tiny d’s nephew/Roberto/The Black Panter wannabe, though already chastised for writing like a petulant, slow 12 year old girl, bravely soldiers on in his delusional belief that he is relevant.”
I’ll be sure to cheer you on in the Special Olympics. Aren’t you set to win Bronze in the drooling competition?
Answer to a stupid question
June 28th, 2010
6:29 pm
“Are you a reverse oreo?””
No, that would be Obama.
Stein
June 28th, 2010
6:30 pm
Enormous H, it’s the end of the month. Isn’t it time to pick up your welfare check?
Stein
June 28th, 2010
6:31 pm
Enormous
Here is your theme song courtesy of Bone Thugs N Harmony.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpBP9dALcWw
Lil' Barry Bailout
June 28th, 2010
6:34 pm
The same folks who think the government isn’t big enough are the same ones arguing against the Second Amendment: Fascists/Democrats.
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
6:37 pm
Jeez, weak meat, you are reduced to Special Olympics comments?
Clever. For a precocious five year old.
And see! I told you, your brain dead cohorts and fellow anti-Semites would come to your rescue!
You played it well weak meat.
You must be a “real” gem when the discussion turns to the topics of the day.
Lemme guess. Obama bad. George Bush-league good.
Jimmy Carter bad. George Bush-league good.
All non-Republicans bad. George Bush-league good.
Is that ring in your nose so tight, you voted for him twice? That is presuming that you are old enough to vote. Your writings sure don’t indicate as much.
But hey we can’t all be doctors. We need you public school almost grads to pick up the trash and pump out the septic tanks.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
6:39 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout
Libs only get upset when it’s against them. Notice how Bookman blamed the SC as “activists” for upholding the 2nd amendment. Yet, when the SC ruled in favor of eminent domain a few years ago, it was perfectly ok. Left wingers are really hurting over this ruling. Just wait until November when Obama is neutered. Left wingers will scream and howl and it will get really nasty.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
6:40 pm
Enormous H
What did I write that was racist/anti-semitic? I’ve been asking you all afternoon.
I never said Bush was good. Your words not mine.
Again, prove that I am a racist, dope.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
6:41 pm
“We need you public school almost grads to pick up the trash and pump out the septic tanks.”
Little girl, I went to private schools. Speaking of septic tanks, you’re really stinking up the place. Do us all a favor and go shower.
Bob Loblaw
June 28th, 2010
6:42 pm
“Your writings sure don’t indicate as much.”
LOLOL!!!!! Yeah, coming from a girl who has misspelled many words throughout the afternoon.
Simply Enormous
June 28th, 2010
6:47 pm
Mexican Candidate for Governor Is Assassinated Today
Remember the folks that breaking into the country are good. Regarding the assassination- first, he most likely had it coming. Second, the guns used I am sure were shipped from the US. Third, the chaps who did it were mentally suffering due to Arizona law. Lastly, it is the fault of George Bush. I must leave now to think everything I think is true.
Enormously Insane
June 28th, 2010
6:50 pm
Remember folks:
According to H, White people are evil, guns are bad, Bush caused WW2, Hitler was good, Muslims are peaceful, liberalism is awesome, abortion is great, communism is better than capitalism, white people should all be enslaved by Obama, Rush Limbaugh is a fat white guy, America sucks and Iran is the greatest country on Earth.
Enormously Enormous
June 28th, 2010
6:52 pm
H must stand for Hypocrite.
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
6:54 pm
Rush Limbaugh is a fat white guy
Hey, you got one right. Congrats weak meat!
So private schools crank out mental midgets too, Roberto?
Lemme guess, you are a graduate of the Little Jeebus Academy of Powder Springs! Magna cum loudmouth.
Enormous Hooligan
June 28th, 2010
6:54 pm
The left has had a very very bad day today. It will only get worse for them as November approaches.
Enormous Hooligan
June 28th, 2010
6:55 pm
Enormous H, did your folks hang that award you received from Fat Camp for biggest loser?
Enormous Hooligan
June 28th, 2010
6:57 pm
Enormous H
Graduated last in his class from Special Ed U.
Earned his degree in Drool.
Works as the 3rd shift at McDonald’s cleaning up puke in the stalls from leftover drunks.
Plans on losing 200 pounds.
Enormous Hooligan
June 28th, 2010
6:58 pm
“Hey, you got one right. Congrats weak meat!”
Funny that you didn’t argue the other points. Communist much?
Jillian
June 28th, 2010
6:59 pm
I’m still pondering today’s decision as to it’s merits for me. In the meantime: Please. Can someone explain this to me. How come in countries like England, where I believe handguns are banned except for cops and only long guns(rifles) are legal are there like less than 100 murders ALL year in the entire country with handguns? Why is that?
Cynthia McKinny
June 28th, 2010
7:01 pm
Enormous H
As president of the communist movement of America, let me be the first to ask for your help with my campaign to get rid of white people. Please join me at the next Black Panther Party at South Dekalb Mall. Drinks and hair weaving sessions will be provided.
C McKinny
Down with whitey!
Capt. America
June 28th, 2010
7:02 pm
“Why is that?”
Because they don’t have thugs and gangs running around like we do.
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
7:02 pm
Now the other weak meat, I suspect he graduated from the US Military Academy in 1967. He won several Congressional Medals of Honor and numerous medals for valor under fire while fighting alongside Rush, Cheney, Chambless, Frist, Delay, Hannity, McConnell, Gingrich, Reagan and George W.
After his brilliant military career, he then went on to pump septic tanks for the Marietta Roto-Rooter Company.
And secretly attends N@zi Party meetings in his mom’s basement.
Answer to your question
June 28th, 2010
7:03 pm
Jillian
That’s an easy answer. The UK doesn’t accept/promote black on black violence like we do here in the States.
Enormous Hooligan
June 28th, 2010
7:04 pm
“And secretly attends N@zi Party meetings in his mom’s basement.”
Now Enormous, why would I attend a DNC meeting?
gatorman770
June 28th, 2010
7:05 pm
songbird
June 28th, 2010
1:07 pm
Why is it that so many guns sold legally in Georgia end up being used in crimes in other states? I’m not against guns. I have a handgun in my home, but too many guns are being sold to the wrong people.
I’ve heard the reports, but not any arrest. Seems like the anti-gun mayor of NY and Chicago are more interested in keeping honest citizens from having guns to protect themselves (while they have their personal guard details with fullautoweapons)rather than arresting criminals! They had to show proper ID at the GA gun stores and there’s video cameras at most all the stores, so why don’t they lock up people that made the purchases. What’cha wanna bet the purbs that used the guns illegally have prior records?
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
7:06 pm
Weak meat. Are you ALWAYS the pivot man in your clique-ish little Wingfield circlejerk? Or do your pals here ever “relieve” you of that tiresome duty?
Jack
June 28th, 2010
7:09 pm
Someone said Guns and Religion are for wimps, thats why there is Europe, for people like you.
Enormous H
June 28th, 2010
7:14 pm
Time for Enormous H to leave you losers to your miserable personae aboard the good ship Wingfield.
Don’t worries foolish bigots, I’m only here this one time to give you a nasty little taste of what you dish out daily. And you hate me because I beat you illiterates at your own puerile game.
But then again maybe I’ll return some day.
“Romper, bomper, stomper boo. Tell me, tell me, tell me, do. Magic Mirror, tell me today, have all my friends had fun at play? I can see Scotty and tiny d and Kimberly and Bob Scofflaw and Julie and Jimmy and Kelly and weak meat and all of you boys and girls out there!”
Mark "Crimson Crier" Ingram
June 28th, 2010
7:21 pm
PEOPLE ASK WHY?
Why Carry a Gun?
My old grandpa said to me ‘Son, there comes a time in every man’s life when he stops bustin’ knuckles and starts bustin’ caps and
usually it’s when he becomes too old to take an ass whoopin.’
I don’t carry a gun to kill people.
I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
I don’t carry a gun to scare people.
I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m paranoid.
I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m evil.
I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.
I don’t carry a gun because I hate the government.
I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m angry.
I carry a gun so that I don’t have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.
I don’t carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m a cowboy.
I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.
I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.
I don’t carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.
I don’t carry a gun because I love it.
I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.
Police protection is an oxymoron.
Free citizens must protect themselves.
Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.
Personally, I carry a gun because I’m too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin’…..author unknown (but obviously brilliant)
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A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. >From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935. >From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
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You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
With guns, we are ‘citizens’. Without them, we are ’subjects’.
During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
If you value your freedom, please spread this anti gun-control message to all of your friends.
The purpose of fighting is to win.
There is no possible victory in defense.
The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.
The final weapon is the brain.
All else is supplemental.
SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
SWITZERLAND’S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
IT’S A NO BRAINER!
DON’T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.
I’m a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment!
Mike Lorrey
June 28th, 2010
7:35 pm
PBJ,
Actually, the Chicago gun ban wasn’t an outright gun ban. They had two separate laws, one which required guns be registered if kept in the home or within city limits, and a second which prohibited the registration of guns for anybody who isn’t a cop, democratic party official, union boss, or other major contributor to Mayor Daley’s campaign coffers. The court saw through this thinly veiled ban and correctly ruled against Chicago.
What amuses me so much about the dissenting opinions is we now see, in Stevens and Breyers arguments in favor of Ku Klux Klansman’s execution of african americans and deprivation of the african americans right to keep and bear arms, that Liberals are the true racists.
Mojavegreen
June 28th, 2010
7:41 pm
The only thing this case did was make blanket the entire country vice only W-DC. The important one is tomarrow. It could mean the end of gun control laws OR it could let them become more draconian in nature without outright banning them.
Educated
June 28th, 2010
8:05 pm
CJ and others, you clearly misinterpret what seems to be plainly written (I’m guessing you earned a C in English). The second amendment section dealing with firearms contains the “Why” and the “What”. Why? A well regulated militia is necessary to protect a free state. What? “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
Don’t rely on my simple interpretation. Let’s ask the guys that wrote and voted on the 2nd amendment:
George Mason (co-author of 2nd amendment): “I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
“.. the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms”
Philadelphia Federal Gazette article on the bill of rights.
“The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed… ”
Thomas Jefferson
“The great object is that every man be armed.”
“Everyone who is able may have a gun.”
Patrick Henry
“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
Richard Henry Lee
Would you like me to keep going?
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2010
9:51 pm
KYLE- May I please suggest a different topic?
The Oil Spill is worse today than it was yesterday.
This curse could have been stopped a long time ago but the morons in charge got us into this bullshizzzz!
fred
June 28th, 2010
9:52 pm
“Crimson Crier”, Amend your list and just state the obvious, your a little scaredy cat….
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2010
9:53 pm
Perhaps we ought to just blow up the well?
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2010
10:05 pm
The Internet is too dangerous. Please go back into your coma.
Information and Persistence will triumph.
Pay Attention.
Speak Without Fear !
Lil' Barry Bailout
June 28th, 2010
10:07 pm
(and then vote in November)
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2010
10:08 pm
The Brown Shirts are massing around my imaginary IP address…. LMAO
Enormous Hooligan
June 28th, 2010
10:23 pm
“Time for Enormous H to leave you losers to your miserable personae aboard the good ship Wingfield.”
Have fun working the street corner tonight.
DEWSTARPATH
June 28th, 2010
11:59 pm
- From Jim Wooten’s “Obama or ‘lying eyes?’ forum:
DEWSTARPATH is an idiot (aka “Bob LobLAw” aka “ye of many
names” – especially in this forum):
June 28th, 2010 – 11:34 am
DEWSTARPATH is a raving lunatic with a stalking fetish.
– Looks like you had a full workday, Loblaw. All of the evil democrats
must be “raving lunatics” who are stalking you, “songbird” in particular.
She made you claim you were an industrial engineer who was the boss
of your own company – where you sit around ALL DAY LONG attacking
other bloggers. You had to jump to another handle (Cars yada yada,
which by the way you appropriated from another poster) to do this.
Nobody makes you post idiotic comments. You can’t help yourself.
Your own adolescent comments give you away.
And here you are again – with the “troglodyte” and “World of Warcraft”
fetish you’ve been obsessing about since you posted as LA last year.
If all of the hours you wasted on this nonsense doesn’t knock some
sense into your head, nothing will. Not that it matters – all of your
“handles” are useless. The other commenters (even the new ones)
are on to you.
DEWSTARPATH is warped
June 29th, 2010
8:22 am
DEWSTARPATH
If you could read, which you choose not to, you’d know that Enormous H came on here threw out the first insult. Songbird and I were just having fun.
Too bad you don’t have a life.
Kagan is an ugly man
June 29th, 2010
8:46 am
Al Franken fell asleep during the hearings. Who can blame him. If I had to stare at that ugly Mr. Kagan I’d fall asleep myself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVyuB-cy_wY&feature=player_embedded
Shawny
June 29th, 2010
9:04 am
What amazes me is how the liberals that do not like this decision point fingers at the conservatives and tout, “I though you were for states and local municipalities rights over the central govt”.
Yet, what they are saying without saying is that they (and the lib justices) are for states rights. Since we know this to be false, the obvious conclusion is that this case is not about Chicago’s or any state’s right to legislate vs. the fed. It is about their ability to legislate something that is unconstitutional.
The law that Chicago put in place, a ban on something that was constitionally granted, is itself unconstitutional. Therefore the correct ruling was against the Chicago ban. The real crime was that 4 justices voted the opposite. The 4 libs.
The hypocrisy of liberals is that they love defending rights granted under the constitution when they include flag burning, etc. but when they include something against their ideals, then they are not in favor of upholding constitutional rights.
Alex
June 29th, 2010
9:06 am
Bush’s conservative activist judges (who were placed there there to legislate from the bench) don’t understand that the second amendment was never meant to allow every yahoo with a Dirty Harry fantasy to strut around with a gun in their pocket.
David Beall
June 29th, 2010
9:07 am
CJ, the Supreme Court has ALREADY RULED that the second amendment is an INDIVIDUAl right when they struck down the DC ban. You can keep spouting that “well-regulated militia” crap all you want.
David Beall
June 29th, 2010
9:08 am
Alex, the second amendment was meant to do EXACTLY that.
Kagan is an ugly man
June 29th, 2010
9:17 am
“Bush’s conservative activist judges (who were placed there there to legislate from the bench) don’t understand that the second amendment was never meant to allow every yahoo with a Dirty Harry fantasy to strut around with a gun in their pocket.”
Why do you want innocent people killed by criminals?
Why do people like you want law abiding citizens shot and killed?
Kagan is an ugly man
June 29th, 2010
9:18 am
David Beall
People like CJ and Alex hate people who want to defend themselves from criminals. These same people are fine with situations like the one in Chicago where the city is under siege by gangs and thugs who don’t care about laws.
Kagan is an ugly man
June 29th, 2010
9:20 am
Shawny
54 shootings happened over one weekend in Chicago and Daley said that the city needed more gun laws. Idiots like him are a big reason why criminals exist. Like Obama, he blames the victims instead of the criminal.
Gator Joe
June 29th, 2010
10:18 am
Kyle,
I don’t own a firearm, and haven’t done much shooting since my days as a Marine (non-combat). But I’m concerned with criminals having them, as well as, the extremist Right Wing militia types, or any emotionally unstable individuals. By the way, what are reasonable regulations regarding firearm ownership and use? Would it be ok for your neighbor to fire his, or her, fully automatic AK-47 next door? How about carrying a loaded handgun on board a commercial airliner? Or should bar patrons, consuming alcohol or not, be allowed to posess a handgun there? I won’t ask any more questions, but completely unrestricted, unregulated firearm posession, will not result in a better USA.
republican chicken
June 29th, 2010
10:20 am
oooh! this big ole gun makes me feel so tough…..
DEWSTARPATH
June 29th, 2010
11:25 am
DEWSTARPATH
LobLAw:
“If you could read, which you choose not to, you’d know that Enormous H came on here threw out the first insult. Songbird and I were just having fun.”
“Too bad you don’t have a life.”
I do have a life – I just don’t spend it typing on blogs all day long –
or accusing people who respond to my comments of not being
able to read.
No More Progressives!
June 29th, 2010
11:35 am
CJ
June 28th, 2010
12:21 pm
Second Amendment: “A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
But for the five activists on the Supreme court who, ignoring the portion of the Second Amendment they don’t like, created a right that doesn’t otherwise exist in the Constitution. The right to keep and bear arms is the right of a State to form and maintain a “well regulated militia”. Such a right was not delineated for individuals.
A “right” that doesn’t exist. The 2nd Amendment comes from “The Bill of Rights.”
Civics class over.
No More Progressives!
June 29th, 2010
11:40 am
The right to keep and bear arms is the right of a State to form and maintain a “well regulated militia”. Such a right was not delineated for individuals.
You & Al “Sex Poodle” Gore, with your living, breathing Constitution. It’s amazing how the lefties can divine something from plainly written English, and contort it 7 ways to Sunday.
Kagan is an ugly man
June 29th, 2010
12:00 pm
“I do have a life – I just don’t spend it typing on blogs all day long –
or accusing people who respond to my comments of not being
able to read.”
Yet you are here. Blogging. Typing….
Bob
June 29th, 2010
12:24 pm
I think the word militia, as used in the 18th Century, doesn’t mean was many people thinks it means. Today’s “militia” as most people think of, is the National Guard, a military body regulated by State and Federal Authority.
Back in the 18th Century it was a bunch of home owners who organized to carry out an organized and regulated defense of their town and individual farms and homes from all types of enemies. That could be raiding parties, armed thugs, or simply a richer neighbor that covets your land and home and hires someone to do the dirty work.
The militia was not just another exclusively military and policing branch of government rules by some singular central authority on high. It was a bunch of trained shooters, under some local authority to regulate them, that were defending their lives and homes. This is, in essence, self defense.
DEWSTARPATH
June 29th, 2010
10:03 pm
“Yet you are here. Blogging. Typing….”
Yes. My second one today – Not ALL DAY LONG
like you on June 28th.
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