Oil spill worse for Obama than Katrina for Bush??

In Louisiana, at least, it may be true.

This poll from left-leaning Public Policy Polling may prove nothing more than the notion that the present crisis is always the biggest crisis. But the result is nonetheless stunning:

Our new Louisiana poll has a lot of data points to show how unhappy voters in the state are with Barack Obama’s handling of the oil spill but one perhaps sums it up better than anything else — a majority of voters there think George W. Bush did a better job with Katrina than Obama’s done dealing with the spill.

50% of voters in the state, even including 31% of Democrats, give Bush higher marks on that question compared to 35% who pick Obama.

Overall only 32% of Louisianans approve of how Obama has handled the spill to 62% who disapprove. 34% of those polled say they approved of how Bush dealt with Katrina to 58% who disapproved.

Respondents were quicker to blame BP than Obama, which only makes sense. But quicker to disapprove of Obama’s handling of the oil spill than Bush’s handling of Katrina?

More bad news for Obama:

  • Louisianans who responded to the poll believe the oil spill will have longer-lasting effects on their state than Katrina (76 percent to 17 percent).
  • 77 percent of those polled support offshore drilling, compared to just 12 percent who oppose it.
  • The number who say the spill has made them more supportive of drilling (28 percent) is in a virtual tie with those who say it’s made them less supportive (31 percent; the margin of error is 4.4 percentage points).

The sample of the poll is about what you’d expect in Louisiana: 56 percent who voted for John McCain in 2008 versus 35 percent who went for Obama (McCain won the state 59 to 40). The cross-tabs aren’t terribly surprising, either: self-identified Democrats give Obama better marks and Bush worse ones, and the opposite is true for Republicans.

It is, however, eye-opening that almost one-third of Louisiana Democrats favor Bush’s response over Obama’s.

And the prevailing opinions about the oil spill being worse than Katrina, and the continued support for offshore drilling, hold up across partisan, ideological and racial lines.

Opinion outside Louisiana will dictate the broad effect of the spill, and Obama’s response to it, on his presidency. But this poll has to have alarm bells ringing among Democrats.

91 comments Add your comment

Urban Republican

June 15th, 2010
6:17 pm

Taking nearly two months to go and see the situation on the ground because BP told you they were handling the situation was a major gaffe and showed a lack of Executive experience. After the Katrina debacle with President Bush, I cannot believe no one in the White House thought about immediately going to the Gulf coast.

The President’s constant campaigning for Democrats makes his administration look one-sided. I was glad to see him stand next to Republican Governor Haley Barbour of Mississippi and declare they would work together to fix the situation in the Gulf. Let’s hope this is the “change” he believed in during 2008!!!

Logical Dude

June 15th, 2010
6:25 pm

Soooo, other than opinion polls that change on a regular basis, any recommendations on how the president “should” have reacted?
Should he have put on a diving suit and went down with a camera and bandaid to show everyone he is doing something?
What? What else should he have done?
If BP had stopped the spill within a week, none of this would be an issue. It’s BP’s fault, and they should handle it. If they can’t, which it seems has been shown, then the government should intervene, stop the leak, then send the bill to BP, with taxes and fees and penalty kicks. (sorry, World Cup on my mind).

Logical Dude

June 15th, 2010
6:29 pm

The same with Bush. He couldn’t have done much more than he did, other than increase communication and open up federal funding faster. Otherwise, it always feels like the calls for “he should go down there!” get mixed with the “he’s only going down for political points!”.
Real solutions, well, they’re more complicated.
Bush and states had to deal with a worst-case scenario natural disaster. (made worse by slow upgrades to the dikes around New Orleans)
Obama and states and Big Oil have to deal with a worst-case safety-negligence disaster. (made worse by BP’s rather poor safety record)

Left wing management

June 15th, 2010
6:31 pm

No question the oil spill will be worse for Obama than Katrina was for Bush, but the comparison is nonetheless highly misleading, and for two reasons. First, Katrina was more of an event that cemented an impression of Bush that had been building for years, where Obama’s oil spill is bound to be the greatest natural catastrophe in the nation’s history, if not of mankind. It would have likely engulfed any president. In any case, the president’s ham-handed response has ensured that he will most likely be severely damaged — though not necessarily hobbled — by it. So where Bush’s Katrina was of merely epochal significance, this oil spill will transcend our epoch and likely be an event with world-historical, perhaps even apocalyptic, significance.

MSNBC=low ratings

June 15th, 2010
6:42 pm

Bobby Jindal is showing Obama what real leaders do.

Left wing management

June 15th, 2010
6:43 pm

By the way, this incessant focus on the need for the president to “emote” in response to the calamity has got to be the most asinine thing I’ve ever heard of. The American public doesn’t want/need a president’ who gets mad and raises his fist to the skies in times of crisis. That’s an overly infantilizing view of the public (not that it doesn’t deserve to be viewed as immature, however, it’s just that its behavior is probably best described in most cases as adolescent more than infantile; see Tea Party). What the media are missing here is that the trauma being experienced by the public is not over an insufficient show of empathy on the part of their leaders, but the collapse of any sense that the society of experts we live in is really capable of addressing the crises that face it. That has nothing to do with emotion per se, and has everything to do with a modern world that cannot deliver on the utopian promises it has – more or less implicitly – made.

MSNBC=low ratings

June 15th, 2010
6:45 pm

“The American public doesn’t want/need a president’ who gets mad and raises his fist to the skies in times of crisis.”

No kidding, and in 2012 we’ll usher in someone who does have leadership and send Obamao packing for Chicago.

MSNBC=low ratings

June 15th, 2010
6:46 pm

“More bad news for Obama:”

The news gets worse everyday for the clown in chief. Dropping poll numbers, angry voters, democrats jumping ship……….

Left wing management

June 15th, 2010
6:46 pm

Low ratings: “Bobby Jindal is showing Obama what real leaders do.”

Maybe, maybe not.

But how would Jindal’s policies – and his adolescent ambivalence (see above post) towards the protective abilities of the government – not lead us into even greater difficulties in the future?

MSNBC=low ratings

June 15th, 2010
6:48 pm

“Maybe, maybe not. ”

Oh he is. Watch and learn.

“not lead us into even greater difficulties in the future?”

Easy:

1: Allow drilling in areas like ANWR where spills could easily be contained.
2: Nuclear Energy. (France does it so left wing retards should love it)
3: Drill closer to shore. That way spills can be contained easier.

jconservative

June 15th, 2010
6:48 pm

What is intriguing in these numbers is the demand for the Federal government to do something. And surprisingly it is coming from those who have claimed to be small government people.

After Bush41 was raked over the coals re Hurricane Andrew, Clinton beefed up FEMA to a massive agency reporting directly to the President.
And FEMA performed during the Clinton years setting a standard that will never be matched again. But the result is a new massive agency, FEMA, and expectations that big government is the answer.

Now everyone is at Obama’s throat over the oil spill. The result? A massive new Federal agency to handle oil related disasters? Billions more down the drain?

Republicans need to realize that if they have a piece of Obama they will also have a massive new agency.

I am for no more big Federal agencies. If that means telling Obama “nice job” then so be it.

MSNBC=low ratings

June 15th, 2010
6:49 pm

BARACK PETROLEUM

BP America President and Chairman Lamar McKay: �BP supports an economy-wide price for carbon based on fair and equitable application across all sectors and believes that market based solutions, like a cap and trade or linked-fee, are the best solutions to manage GHG emissions.� (Committee on Energy and Commerce, Subcommittee on Energy and Environment, U.S. House Of Representatives, Hearing, 6/15/10)

Shell President Marvin E. Odum: �That is why Shell supports legislating a solution to energy and climate issues as a means to create a secure U.S. energy future, reduce dependence on foreign oil and decrease greenhouse gas emissions. This requires setting a price for carbon, and we recommend cap and trade.� (Committee on Energy and Commerce, Subcommittee on Energy and Environment, U.S. House Of Representatives, Hearing, 6/15/10)

ConocoPhillips CEO James J. Mulva: �Another key element of a comprehensive energy policy should be federal action to address global climate change. As you are aware, ConocoPhillips supports passage of a comprehensive federal law establishing a clear and transparent price for carbon.� (Committee on Energy and Commerce, Subcommittee on Energy and Environment, U.S. House Of Representatives, Hearing, 6/15/10)

MSNBC=low ratings

June 15th, 2010
6:54 pm

Gov. Bobby Jindal Orders National Guard to Build Barrier Wall Off Louisiana Shore

Eight weeks into the oil spill disaster in the Gulf of the Mexico, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal has told the National Guard that there’s no time left to wait for BP, so they’re taking matters into their own hands.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/article/bp-oil-spill-gov-bobby-jindal-orders-national/story?id=10914348

MSNBC=low ratings

June 15th, 2010
6:56 pm

NPR Poll Shows Tough Road Ahead For Democrats

A new public opinion survey for NPR shows just how difficult it will be for Democrats to avoid big losses in the House this November.

Democrat Stan Greenberg and Republican Glen Bolger conducted the first public battleground poll of this election cycle. They chose the 70 House districts experts regard as most likely to oust incumbents this fall. What they found was grim news for Democrats.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127845693

whatfor

June 15th, 2010
7:24 pm

You know after Katrina there were some blacks in New Orleans who said “Bush doesn’t like black people” – as if Bush somehow had Katrina to hit New Orleans on purpose and cause the dam to collapse. Maybe some of folks down on the coast ought to start saying “Obama doesn’t like our beaches” or “Obama must not like our sea life”. Makes just as much sense as those who blamed Bush.

Carpet Kitten

June 15th, 2010
7:32 pm

People died in floods in Tennessee last month and Obama did nothing. People died in Arkansas floods last week and Obama does nothing. Obama has had two months to address the nation on a play for the Gulf. We already know that there were many things that could have happened that didn’t because the Obama administration thought it more important to line up lawyers than a disaster recovery plan with that other incompetent, Janet Napolitano.

What will be said tonight will be an excuse to take over “big oil’ in the US just like the US auto industry where fascism controls private enterprise. What will also be said is that this disaster is a reason why Cap & Trade needs to be passed (what irony there, huh?). I won’t be watching the teleprompter readings from someone who is in WAY over his head in not only national, but international problems.

I’ll bet he’ll even blame the former Bush administration and will fail to bring up – like all liberal Obamabots fail to do – that it was Bill Clinton in 1995 that signed off on deep water drilling. You won’t see the liberals mention this:

Quote: “In 1995, President Clinton signed the Outer Continental Shelf Deepwater Royalty Relief Act which exempted oil wells drilled deep in the Gulf from the normal royalty payments they would normally have owed the government for their oil. Usually, these payments amount to between 12% and 16% of their revenues, so exemption from this requirement did a great deal to catalyze drilling in deep waters in the Gulf of Mexico. As a result of the Administration action, deepwater oil production in the Gulf increased rapidly, growing from 42 million barrels annually in 1996 to 348 million in 2004. The latter figure represents about 6% of total United States oil consumption and about 15% of domestic production. Natural gas production from deepwater Gulf drilling increased tenfold during the same period”–Dick Morris, former Clinton White House advisor

Finn McCool

June 15th, 2010
7:42 pm

It’s also important to note that Karina was a “natural” occurence – with 2+ days of warning.

The spill had zero warning and it was a man-made disaster.

I don’t discount either — they are both disasters with wide-ranging consequences –or the total eff-ups that our leaders showed…but, likewise, apples and oranges are both fruit…

Steel Magnolia

June 15th, 2010
7:51 pm

The difference between Katrina and the oil spill is that the government had the resources and ability to clean up Katrina except for the incompetence of Brownie (Bush’s appointee).
The oil spill requires more specialized intelligence that makes it impossible for the government to clean it up on our own. As frustrating as it is, we have to have BP’s assist to ultimately be successful.

Left wing management

June 15th, 2010
8:03 pm

Low ratings:

You seem to think that “containing” spill-related damages as “easy”. But what I want to ask you is: why haven’t companies been able to self-regulate and prevent such accidents as this one from occurring?

The answer: they can’t.

MSNBC=low ratings

June 15th, 2010
8:13 pm

“You seem to think that “containing” spill-related damages as “easy”.”

Your words not mine.

“why haven’t companies been able to self-regulate and prevent such accidents as this one from occurring?”

Better question: Why did Obama give that BP rig high honors before the spill?

Answer: Because BP gave him a ton of campaign cash.

MSNBC=low ratings

June 15th, 2010
8:13 pm

This Obama speech is a joke.

Chris Conner

June 15th, 2010
8:13 pm

Obana —-really??? nice editing in the headline

Now you, are a fool!

June 15th, 2010
8:16 pm

Low Ratings has this all figured out. Perhaps he should tender his resignation at the IHOP, and take over the country! Of course that means it will take a littel longer to get our pancakes this weekend, but I am in!!

MSNBC=low ratings

June 15th, 2010
8:18 pm

I wonder what god Obama was talking about?

Allah?

MSNBC=low ratings

June 15th, 2010
8:19 pm

fool

Maybe you should quit playing on your inbred mom/sisters computer and finish getting that GED you’ve always wanted.

bigguy

June 15th, 2010
8:24 pm

To all those with the “It’s Working, You’re welcome.” bumper stickers:
“Ain’t nothin working, thank you very much.”

Paulo 977

June 15th, 2010
8:35 pm

Steel Magnolia …the most sensible post . Katrina was well within the capabilities of the Bush ‘regime’ to handle it well BUT what did it do ? Only as much to help the moneyed in the area while completely abandoning those who were most needy..Who the h*** cares about a poll by ignorant bigots!!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

June 15th, 2010
8:36 pm

fool…come on you dont think low ratings actually got promoted to cook?

Vinny

June 15th, 2010
8:39 pm

The President of BP should tell Barack to take the proposal to set up an escrow account administered by a third party (obama’s buddies) and stick it where the sun doesn’t shine.

Obama doesn’t care about what is happening in the gulf or the people it affects, he only cares about power.

He is nothing but a weak, pathetic excuse for a leader.

Rev. Shantaz Menthol

June 15th, 2010
8:40 pm

“Who the h*** cares about a poll by ignorant bigots!!”

Since when was NPR run by bigots?

Rev. Shantaz Menthol

June 15th, 2010
8:41 pm

Vinny

BP owns Obama.

Rev. Shantaz Menthol

June 15th, 2010
8:42 pm

More bad news for President Dope and Chains

Our new Louisiana poll has a lot of data points to show how unhappy voters in the state are with Barack Obama’s handling of the oil spill but one perhaps sums it up better than anything else- a majority of voters there think George W. Bush did a better job with Katrina than Obama’s done dealing with the spill.

50% of voters in the state, even including 31% of Democrats, give Bush higher marks on that question compared to 35% who pick Obama.

Overall only 32% of Louisianans approve of how Obama has handled the spill to 62% who disapprove. 34% of those polled say they approved of how Bush dealt with Katrina to 58% who disapproved.

Keep Up the Good Kite!

June 15th, 2010
8:43 pm

Maybe Obama can get a job as a short order cook on the south side of Chicago once he’s sent packing in 2 years.

Gallup

June 15th, 2010
8:44 pm

The difference —the media had convinced the intellectually challenged public that Bush was awful and they cooperated and disliked him Katrina peaked his low approval, –the media tries to convince us that Obama is superman/Mother Teresa and the public is realizing he is a total incompetent and their dislike is just starting to rise -the oil spill will speed up that reality

Obama gives another lame speech

June 15th, 2010
8:44 pm

Obama says BP will pay for the spill.

So when is Obama’s awesome government gonna stop the leak?

Obama

June 15th, 2010
8:47 pm

My uh er promise to the er Amercan people is uh….BP will pay for the uh er damage. I will eh head back to uh Chicago to watch my uh favorite baseball team the uh er Chicago Blackcubs and their uh er quest for the Stanley Series Bowl. My uh er favorite baseball player is uh er Daryl Griffey Jr.

Old Man

June 15th, 2010
9:06 pm

Maybe Obama should say to BP “Bring ‘em on.”

Left wing management

June 15th, 2010
9:08 pm

Low ratings: “Answer: Because BP gave him a ton of campaign cash.”

You’re right that’s what, in part, explains his slowness to respond. But you’re wrong if you’re cynical enough to think that will determine ultimately what his response is to the crisis.

Another lame speech: “So when is Obama’s awesome government gonna stop the leak?”

Wait a sec, pal. You don’t get to make these insinuations while one of your own (Jindal) is busy attacking the government for not doing enough. It’s’ YOUR side, friend, that’s got the government problem (and governance problem). That is to say, you don’t know how to do it. Now maybe, confronted with a catastrophe of this scope, no one is up to the task, but one thing is for d**** sure and that is that your side has been primarily responsible for bringing us to the point where we are. And that’s because your side thinks that markets work just fine by themselves. Well, they don’t..

Carpet Kitten

June 15th, 2010
9:13 pm

“Maybe Obama should say to BP “Bring ‘em on.”’

Nah, a better idea would be to tell Gulf Coast residents to “get in their faces” of BP employees (for you Obamabot voters, that’s a reference Obama made to his mindless minion liberals to go “in the face” to Conservatives on the Obamacare disaster-to-be).

Carpet Kitten

June 15th, 2010
9:19 pm

“And that’s because your side thinks that markets work just fine by themselves. Well, they don’t..”

Yet another mindless liberal minion who can’t comprehend that we Conservatives believe in SOME government. Just not ALL government – like Obamacare, Cap & Trade, bank takeovers, auto manufacturer takeovers, …..

MSNBC=low ratings

June 15th, 2010
9:20 pm

“Wait a sec, pal.”

LOL!

Carpet Kitten

June 15th, 2010
9:23 pm

Oh and another thing – how’s that trillion dollar stimulus to nowhere the Democrats promised would stop and reverse unemployment doing? I’ll tell you one thing: if corporations spent money and crony up like the liberals’ beloved federal overreaching government under Obama, it would be bankrupt – kinda like where we’re headed now. Funny how these same liberals whined about government encroachment in private lives under Bush are all shut up like the environmentalists on the Gulf spill. Oh the irony.

Left wing management

June 15th, 2010
9:23 pm

Low ratings

I MEAN it, man. :)

Left wingers eat crow

June 15th, 2010
9:39 pm

MSNBC Trashes Obama’s Address: Compared To Carter, “I Don’t Sense Executive Command”

Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann and Howard Fineman react to President Obama’s Oval Office Address on the oil spill. Here are the highlights of what the trio said:

Olbermann: “It was a great speech if you were on another planet for the last 57 days.”

Matthews compared Obama to Carter.

Olbermann: “Nothing specific at all was said.”

Matthews: “No direction.”

Howard Fineman: “He wasn’t specific enough.”

Olbermann: “I don’t think he aimed low, I don’t think he aimed at all. It’s startling.”

Howard Fineman: Obama should be acting like a “commander-in-chief.”

Matthews: Ludicrous that he keeps saying [Secretary of Energy] Chu has a Nobel prize. “I’ll barf if he does it one more time.”

Matthews: “A lot of meritocracy, a lot of blue ribbon talk.”

Matthews: “I don’t sense executive command.”

miles

June 15th, 2010
11:46 pm

oh how u people forget 9/11, the day OSAMA BIN LADEN made a fool of BUSH….THANK GOD OBAMA isnt stupid enough to get tricked by a terrorist hiding in a cave.

miles

June 15th, 2010
11:48 pm

remember the last president, the doofus who took a surplus and turned it into a deficit…the doofus who let 3000 AMERICANS get murdered on his watch….OBAMA is way better than BUSH ever was

miles

June 15th, 2010
11:51 pm

all the people who dont like OBAMA before the spill wasnt going to vote for him anyway…no matter what he does the angry right wing christian hate mongers will never like him because hes black…

miles

June 15th, 2010
11:54 pm

KYLE WINGFIELD will never like anything about OBAMA…after all hes a white right winger and OBAMA is a progressive black…one long for the “glory” days of yesteryear, while OBAMA looks to the future…but i bet KYLE thinks he wtites these columns without any bias or prejudice..

Neal

June 16th, 2010
12:57 am

I find it interesting that President Obama likes to compare our near future ability to rely on green technology to our past history of the race to the moon. He seems so optimistic that we can only succeed with green energy. I only wish that he showed the same optimism for capping the well head and cleaning up the gulf. Instead he tells us he can’t plug the hole and he can’t suck up the oil with a straw. It seems that the Governor down there in LA got tired of waiting and started sucking up the oil with a 4 inch PVC straw. Plugging the hole and cleaning up the oil, no make that stopping the oil before it reaches land and cleaning it up is a much nearer technology than Wind and Solar. What we need is a President that will suspend the Jones act so that other countries can help us. Temporarily suspend many of the environmental acts so that sand barriers can be built. No way they would be more catastrophic than the oil. On the Energy issues, suspend environmental concerns that hinder building Nuclear power plants. Suspend environmental concerns that stop us from drilling on land and in shallow water. I have seen many former oil well sights that have been totally returned to virgin state. Let’s do what we can do while we accept the challenge to do what we can’t do today.

Obama is full of it

June 16th, 2010
2:18 am

Steel Magnolia = you are so full of crap – I bet you don’t know your A** from a hole in the ground. Wake-up and smell the roses (or the Sh*T that your hero Obama is sending you)