For anyone who questions the use of ‘union thugs’

Subtitle: Even the rampaging Greeks earlier this month attacked bank employees at the banks rather than in their own homes.

There is nothing peaceful about hundreds of SEIU thugs arriving by bus caravan to intimidate a man and his family on their own front lawn. It’s just despicable.

Check out the title of the man in question, Greg Baer, according to the CNN/Fortune account of the mob scene: deputy general counsel for corporate law at Bank of America. He has alternately been described as a lobbyist, although OpenSecrets.org does not list him among BoA’s lobbying team. (By the way, don’t you just love the SEIU’s description of this incident as its effort “to talk to” Baer? Can you imagine sending 500 people to a man’s home on a Sunday afternoon to have a polite little chat with him? Please.)

So, if Baer is a lobbyist for the bank, one would have to question whether he’s really one of the top dogs. Remember that as you keep reading.

BoA’s own website lists 13 members of its senior management team, all of whom outrank Baer. This wasn’t about policy, or protesting the person who makes it.

Here’s what this was about: Spreading intimidation in a lower tier of bank management, a group whose members previously would have believed themselves not subject to personal intimidation of any kind, much less demonstrations in their front yards.

A spokesman for SEIU, a service employees union, more or less confirmed this notion to the CNN/Fortune reporter, Nina Easton, who happened upon the scene because she is one of Baer’s neighbors:

When I asked Stephen Lerner, SEIU’s point-person on Wall Street reform, about these tactics, he accused me of getting “emotional.” Lerner was more comfortable sticking to his talking points: “Millions of people are losing their homes, and they have gone to the banks, which are turning a deaf ear.”

Okay, fine, then why not continue SEIU protests at bank offices and shareholder meetings-as the union has been doing for more than a year? Lerner insists, “People in powerful corporations seem to think they can insulate themselves from the damage they are doing.”

Put another way, this protest had the same basic aim as a terrorist attack on civilians: spreading fear among people who previously thought they were safe from it. When you think the political leaders have stopped listening, you go after regular people so they will put pressure on the political leaders. When you think the bank CEOs and directors have stopped listening, you go after people a little lower in the management chain.

Now, for anyone who balks at a comparison between these SEIU thugs and terrorists because the latter practice violence: Did the organizers know for sure that no one among the 500 was carrying a weapon? Or that no one inside the house would respond violently to the crowd on the front lawn? Or that none of the 500 would simply beat Baer or one of his family members or neighbors with their bare hands the way SEIU purple shirts did Kenneth Gladney in St. Louis last summer?

In Baer’s case the police, at least according to Easton’s report, thought there was potential for violence:

Intimidation was the whole point of this exercise, and it worked — even on the police. A trio of officers who belatedly answered our calls confessed a fear that arrests might “incite” these trespassers.

Just imagine what kind of coverage and commentary would ensue if a tea-party protest were to unfold this way. Forget the police; Janet Napolitano’s federal homeland security personnel would have come and arrested the “right-wing extremists.”

As Erick Erickson points out at RedState, “A couple of weeks ago, Barack Obama told Wall Street that he, personally *he*, was all that stood between them and pitchforks. Well, Obama’s SEIU buddies decided to break out the pitchforks.”

The president’s response to this event will be very telling.

43 comments Add your comment

The Anti-Wooten

May 24th, 2010
11:34 am

Given the behavior of the banks, insurance and credit companies since we the people bailed their sorry behinds out, perhaps it’s time for the torches and pitch forks. But seriously folks, scaring this guys kids is wrong and should be condemned.

Kyle Wingfield

May 24th, 2010
11:35 am

Folks, note this historic date…Wingfield and Anti-Wooten agree!

:-)

Jefferson

May 24th, 2010
11:35 am

What’s going on Memorial Day ?

Bubba

May 24th, 2010
12:00 pm

Amazing that this incident hasn’t been more widely reported. As you said, Kyle, if it had been a group of tea partiers behaving this way, the news coverage would have been overwhelming.

Jesus is Coming

May 24th, 2010
12:01 pm

Marxism is the way and the light, this is another sign of capitalisms slow death.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

May 24th, 2010
12:52 pm

If Greg Baer does not own weapons of mass destruction, he ought to consider acquiring some.

joan1

May 24th, 2010
1:02 pm

This is union intimidation pure and simple, and the SEIU union is one of Barry’s best friends–most visits to the White House to chum up. Maybe he put them up to it. If people come on your lawn aren’t you free to shoot them? They would in Utah or Wyoming. Why should private citizens have to tolerate people intimidating them in droves, destroying their property and scaring their families? This is intolerable. We are going to have gang wars in the streets if the police don’t stop the union thugs.

Barbara Brown

May 24th, 2010
1:02 pm

No.
This is only about one thing — the forced unionization of Bank of America hourly workers through a “leverage campaign”.

IT works this way — without speaking to a single worker, a corporation is targeted based on it’s vulnerability to a smear campaign and the size and importance of it’s potential dues paying workforce. In this case B of A may be a desirable target for a list of reasons, none of which have anything to do with how it treats it’s workers, how happy or unhappy they are with their jobs or how socially responsible the corporation is, especially as compared to it’s competition.

B of A was probably targeted PRECISELY BECAUSE it’s CEO has some Democratic Party connections and chops. The easier to get to him through his friends, my dear. But certainly someone in the union decided the corporation also could serve as a “model” for the organizing (and terrorizing) of other banks.

Understand, if tomorrow B of A signed a “neutrality agreement” with the union, agreeing to recognize and bargain with the union without an election regardless of what the majority of their workers might want — well, immediately SEIU wouldn’t have a problem in the world with them, the heat would disappear along with the bussed in protesters (making more on per diem than they do at work as SEIU members) and every ounce of fake outrage.

joan1

May 24th, 2010
1:05 pm

The media would have played this one up big time if it had been a tea party demonstration–and teapartiers are generally older, educated and peaceful–unlike these union thugs–loud and abrasive. The media is sure playing up poor old Rand Paul’s common sense approach to Disabilities–in suggesting a ramp for a two story building instead of a $14,000 elevator. The media plays it that he is against the disabilities act generally. Talk about propaganda machines. America is in serious trouble.

Bill from Cobb

May 24th, 2010
2:03 pm

Only stupid and lazy people join unions. They might as well wear a sign that says “entitlement seeker”

CJ

May 24th, 2010
2:05 pm

Now, for anyone who balks at a comparison between these SEIU thugs and terrorists because the latter practice violence: Did the organizers know for sure that no one among the 500 was carrying a weapon? Or that no one inside the house would respond violently to the crowd on the front lawn? Or that none of the 500 would simply beat Baer or one of his family members or neighbors with their bare hands…

Without condoning protesting at an individual’s house, among Kyle’s asinine posts, this one takes the cake. Clear evidence that he’s a right-wing hack is that after having denied the existence/seriousness of incendiary rhetoric coming from Republican leaders (Congressmen, Paling, Steele, …) during the lead up to health care reform, Kyle now compares the peaceful, albeit loud, protests of union protesters, to terrorism.

Pathetic and shameful!!!

Peter

May 24th, 2010
2:07 pm

Hey Kyle I agree with you as well…….. Thuggery is Thuggery.no matter who is doing it.

Peter

May 24th, 2010
2:11 pm

Hey …..Bill from Cobb….. This type of blanket statement is silly, and shows small minded thinking.
Perhaps if you would say in certain respects…..then expound, the statement may be valid.

Only stupid and lazy people join unions. They might as well wear a sign that says “entitlement seeker”

There has been years where workers were taken advantage of by business…..as we all have been taken advantage of, by the Bush administration and BIG OIL.

Jess

May 24th, 2010
2:15 pm

Unions have been using intimidation as their main weapon forever. Thirty years ago I was part of the management team of a company the unions had targeted. They had gotten the right to a vote based purely on threats of violence and in some cases actual violence. My wife got calls constantly threatening to burn our house at night, and once my windows were painted with burn baby burn. The worst however was my that my car was shot twelve times in the parking lot at my office. This is why card check will never work. The company won the election, by the way with over 80% voting against the union. The results would have been different were there not a secret ballot.

Jess

May 24th, 2010
2:17 pm

By the way, just learned that congress is considering a $165 billion bailout of union pension funds. This of course is outside of pay as you go.

Kyle Wingfield

May 24th, 2010
2:26 pm

CJ, kindly point out the last time some “incendiary” rhetoric from Palin, Steele or Congressmen on the right led to a situation like this. There are actions which some people consider questionable while others deem them in bounds, but this one was beyond the pale.

joe

May 24th, 2010
2:29 pm

I wonder what the IQ score was of the 500 who were on the bus?

Bill from Cobb

May 24th, 2010
2:36 pm

So the employees should manage the company?

First Sergeant

May 24th, 2010
2:40 pm

joan1

May 24th, 2010
1:02 pm

“This is union intimidation pure and simple, and the SEIU union is one of Barry’s best friends–most visits to the White House to chum up.”

Every time you post, you lose credibility. The President’s name is Obama. Dang, talk about bigotry; you fit the mold!

Bill from Cobb

May 24th, 2010
2:41 pm

GM is a great example. Wonder how long till unions run healthcare too? Please name one company that does better with unions in today’s world?

No More Progressives!

May 24th, 2010
3:09 pm

Kyle,

With all due respect;

“Union Thug” is redundant.

No More Progressives!

May 24th, 2010
3:13 pm

First Sergeant

May 24th, 2010
2:40 pm
Every time you post, you lose credibility. The President’s name is Obama.

It’s Barrack Hussien Obama, affectionately known as King Barry the Magnanimous.

And don’t forget he’s half white.

CJ

May 24th, 2010
3:30 pm

CJ, kindly point out the last time some “incendiary” rhetoric from Palin, Steele or Congressmen on the right led to a situation like this.

You’ve gotta be kidding me.

As I recall, some nutjobs carried guns to protests, carried signs threatening murder (”If Brown Can’t Stop [Health Care], A Browning Can”), had spit at members of Congress (yes, there’s video), cut gas lines, made death threats, hurled bricks through windows, and sent faxes with nooses, among other things.

Of course, you’ll see no connection of such acts to GOP members of Congress flying “don’t tread on me” flags from a Capitol Building balcony, shouting “baby killer” at a fellow Dem congressman, referring to Obama and other Dems as “traitors”, Palin putting gun sites over selected Dems on her FB page, Steele stating that Pelosi is now in the “firing line” while pasting her picture engulfed in flames on the GOP site, and Boehner referring to the passage of health care reform as “Armageddon”,…

These union people protested. Period. Protesting at a person’s house might be beyond the pale. But it’s not as beyond the pale as you comparing them to terrorists.

These are your fellow Americans Kyle. Cut the crap.

Jess

May 24th, 2010
3:43 pm

Cj,

And let’s not forget when the republicans were burning and hanging Bush in effigy and applauding movies which showed him being assasinated. ………wait a minute, that was democrats. Never mind.

PixiePundit

May 24th, 2010
3:46 pm

People act like this is something new with the SEIU. They have been doing this for YEARS.. they follow Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals to the letter, and the MSM ignores it.

TehranDawg

May 24th, 2010
3:56 pm

Still not worse than what Saxby did to Max Cleland. Or Bush to McCain in SC.

commoncents

May 24th, 2010
3:57 pm

CJ, the examples you just gave were from a total of 5 or 6 people from 5 or 6 different events, not 500 people coordinated by a union to arrive and intimidate 1 man and his family at his house.

Unions used to be about protecting workers. Now they’re about exploitation, intimidation and any other means necessary to get more than they deserve.

Peter

May 24th, 2010
3:57 pm

Kyle, the time to Boycott BP is NOW ! Time for you to stand up for the American Public and condemn the oil spill !

PixiePundit

May 24th, 2010
4:01 pm

Just a little note – BP was excluded from the safety and environmental impact studies last year by Obama’s Administration. No wonder since they gave him so much money!!

Sorry for the off topic :)

HDB`

May 24th, 2010
4:19 pm

Bill from Cobb

May 24th, 2010
2:41 pm
GM is a great example. Wonder how long till unions run healthcare too? Please name one company that does better with unions in today’s world?

Try Southwest Airlines….they’re unionized…and have a GOOD relationship with management. In their corporate history, they’ve had only ONE layoff…and it lasted ONE DAY!! The managerial creed specifically prohibits layoff…and that was a MANAGEMENT decision!!

Peter

May 24th, 2010
3:57 pm
Kyle, the time to Boycott BP is NOW ! Time for you to stand up for the American Public and condemn the oil spill !

You’re late….many of my friends and I won’t buy gas from BP now……

Kyle: isn’t this similar to Fox News’ ambush journalism for shows like O’Reilly and Hannity?? Where’s the complaints about that??

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 24th, 2010
4:55 pm

No More Progressives!–”Union Thug” is redundant.

Awesome, so true, so true.

Bob

May 24th, 2010
5:32 pm

Peter, is this what you want ? Bad oil spill bad,bad bad, go to your room. The SEIU and ACORN have the same mentality, they both have gone to peoples homes and protested. In this case, the DC police gave the 5 buses an escort to the site. These ignorant fools now want the gov to bail out their failed pensions. Look at the protestors closely and you can see why they are union and not employers.

Dave

May 24th, 2010
7:49 pm

You had me till this line:

“Forget the police; Janet Napolitano’s federal homeland security personnel would have come and arrested the ‘right-wing extremists.’”

Picture the top, you went over.

Dave

May 24th, 2010
7:53 pm

And, I probably should add the terrorism thing; but, I can’t think of anything pithy or funny to say. Though there are those freedom marches back in the sixties. Terrorism?

oldtimer

May 24th, 2010
9:35 pm

Good post Kyle….unions destroy a company..look at Eastern Airlines..for one example.

diogenes

May 24th, 2010
10:38 pm

CJ off his meds again

Captain America

May 25th, 2010
6:45 am

So you’re saying that other countries have tea-nut protesters too?

JKL2

May 25th, 2010
9:15 am

first- This is union intimidation pure and simple, and the SEIU union is one of Obama’s best friends–most visits to the White House to chum up.”

All happy now?

JKL2

May 25th, 2010
9:20 am

cj-

There’s a big difference between people peacefully gathering in public to voice their first amendment rights and hiring a group of thugs to stage a protest in someone’s front yard, violating their right to privacy.

Police should have confiscated their buses and arrested everyone involved. I guarantee I would have lawsuits flying for the police not protecting me.

JKL2

May 25th, 2010
9:30 am

Dave- “Forget the police; Janet Napolitano’s federal homeland security personnel would have come and arrested the ‘right-wing extremists

Is this like the SWAT team in full riot gear that was sent to remove all those riotist elderly Tea Partiers sitting in their lawn chairs holding signs by the Obama speech in IL a couple weeks ago?

Rick James

May 25th, 2010
1:44 pm

I would have had something for these SEIU thugs if it had happened on my lawn.

O.C.G.A. § 16-3-24

No one is going to terrorize my family, foreign or domestic.

charles

May 25th, 2010
9:16 pm

tea party members volunteered to protest. Socialist Emerging Intimidating Union got paid from the job creation stimulus money.

Port O' John

May 26th, 2010
5:08 pm

Based on the descriptions of the SEIU protestors, I agree they went to far.

But I think you are showing your GOP bias Kyle when you claim that Palin, et al., have never used rhetoric to drive tea-partiers to inappropriate behaviour. Palin’s putting photographs of dems’ in cross-hairs is pretty suggestive. And I seem to recall more than a few reports of tea-partiers acting poorly, including vandalizing a Congressman’s brothers house by cutting the gas line. Did you not find that over the line Kyle? No problems with that kind of stuff as long as they have the right ideology? Or would it have been OK if the tea-partier’s had not got the address long as cut the gas line at the Congressman’s house? Would that make it OK?

I think that this kind of over the top conduct goes both ways Kyle. I don’t agree with what SEIU did, but if you only condemnn one side when this kind of stuff happens, what does that make you?