Obama’s $8.6 trillion in deficits: Only a low-ball estimate

Anyone trying to claim a fiscal equivalence between the Bush era and the Obama era needs to review the latest report from the Congressional Budget Office.

In its recent budget report, the White House forecast budget deficits totaling $8.6 trillion over the next decade. To keep that in perspective, the total public debt held by the end of 2009 — that is, by the end of George W. Bush’s last budget — was $7.5 trillion.

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Graph originally posted at gregmankiw.blogspot.com

CBO, however, says even that mind-boggling projection is too low. In fact, the nonpartisan budget crunchers estimate, the cumulative deficit from 2010-2020 will be $9.8 trillion. That’s a difference of $1.2 trillion, as illustrated to the left (the graph comes from Greg Mankiw).

How much is $1.2 trillion? It’s roughly the same as the combined deficits of Bush’s first four years in office. And remember, we’re only talking about the “extra” amount of total deficits in the decade to come.

But as bad as a $1.2 trillion underestimate is, here are the numbers to really worry about:

  • $9.8 trillion: The cumulative budget deficits from 2010-2020 given Obama’s plans, according to CBO. In other words, we will average a $1 trillion deficit over the next 10 years, after never breaching $1 trillion a single time before Bush’s final budget.
  • $3.8 trillion: The additional budget deficits from 2010-2020 given Obama’s plans, compared to just leaving the budget on auto-pilot, according to CBO.
  • 90 percent: The public debt as a share of the total economy by 2020 given Obama’s plans, according to CBO. The current figure is 53 percent.
  • 80 percent: The amount by which the White House has overestimated next year’s economic growth, according to CBO (4.3 percent GDP growth in 2011 forecast by White House, versus 2.4 percent per CBO). Even if the White House is correct and the economy is about to come roaring back, it is foolish to count on such spectacular growth. (Recall what I’ve said before about rosy scenarios.)
  • 24.1 percent: The average proportion of GDP that the federal government will spend from 2010-2020 given Obama’s plans, according to CBO. The 40-year historical average is 20.7 percent. So, we are talking about a federal government in 2020 that is one-sixth larger than it historically has been.

And all of this assumes that there will be no national emergencies over the next 10 years: No terrorist attacks or natural disasters that require extra spending. And it assumes that we will have a decade of uninterrupted economic growth; history suggests that’s unlikely.

We are talking about an expansion of government, the deficit and debt that is an order of magnitude greater than anything we’ve seen before. If you’re one of those people asking why fiscal conservatives are suddenly concerned about the deficit now, and weren’t holding tea parties back when Bush was still in office, this is why.

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LA

March 8th, 2010
8:24 pm

“THAT MEANS EVERYONE…INCLUDING THOSE WITH WEALTH!!!”

Spoken like a true Marxist.

atlshirt.com

March 8th, 2010
8:24 pm

HDB

March 8th, 2010
8:17 pm

Stop being so defensive, and stop attacking people who have opposing views, and things can be discussed in a more mature manner… then, problems can get worked out easily ;)

atlshirt.com

March 8th, 2010
8:26 pm

oh, and I too served in the US Navy ;)

Scott

March 8th, 2010
8:26 pm

I would highly advise you have a read of the following…

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/stiglitz123/English

Deficits right now are not bad and in fact are quite necessary. It is, however, very important to focus on the return we get on government spending (infrastructure for example is a good return…bail outs, not so good).
Here in Georgia its like watching a train wreck in slow motion. They are going to cut spending, which by the way is spent in Georgia so every dollar cut is a dollar someone will not earn here, instead of raising revenue (we are dead last in per capita revenue 50th) which will in turn just make it all worse. There aint no free lunch people…you got to pay to play

HDB

March 8th, 2010
8:27 pm

ATLShirt…I’m not defensive…but what I SAID is different from what I have been ATTRIBUTED to have said…and I’m correcting the fallacy!!

Glad to see a fellow squid!!

LA

March 8th, 2010
8:30 pm

Poll shows Obama, Dems losing ground

A majority of Americans say the United States is less respected in the world than it was two years ago and think President Obama and other Democrats fall short of Republicans on the issue of national security, a new poll finds.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/08/poll-obama-dems-losing-ground/

HDB

March 8th, 2010
8:39 pm

The Patriot Act authorizes searches, wiretaps, and searches of bank records WITHOUT warrants…even in wartime, as an American, I want my civil liberties protected!!

From the Patriot Act: (Sec. 213) Authorizes Federal district courts to allow a DELAY of required notices of the execution of a warrant if immediate notice may have an adverse result and under other specified circumstances. (Constitutional violation of the 4th Amendment – Search and Seizure)
(Sec. 217) Makes it lawful to intercept the wire or electronic communication of a computer trespasser in certain circumstances. (Who determines the process?? The courts…or the spy??)

(Sec. 504) Amends FISA to authorize consultation among Federal law enforcement officers regarding information acquired from an electronic surveillance or physical search in terrorism and related investigations or protective measures. (Another possibility of 4th Amendment violations)

(Sec. 504) Amends FISA to authorize consultation among Federal law enforcement officers regarding information acquired from an electronic surveillance or physical search in terrorism and related investigations or protective measures. (TYitle X is used TO profile!)

There’s more…but this is the beginning! I do NOT want the government ease dropping on my calls or noting my bank transactions if I am an American citizen with the PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE!!

samuel

March 8th, 2010
8:43 pm

As an example Kyle, public debt was 22% of GDP in Fiscal Year 1981 (Jimmy Carter’s last budget). By FY 1989 (Reagan’s last budget), public debt was 37% of GDP. BY FY 1993 (Bush 41’s last budget), public debt was 44% of GDP. By Clinton’s last budget (FY 2001), public debt was 27% of GDP…I’ve already made too many posts about the explosion of GROSS National Debt under the last 3 Republican presidents. As I’ve said before, Obama didn’t invent deficit spending, the Republicans have perfected that art.

atlshirt.com

March 8th, 2010
8:44 pm

HDB

March 8th, 2010
8:39 pm

I want to see the Patriot Act repealed as well, seeing how it is unconstitutional, but, Obama promised on the campaign trail that he would repeal it, but then after swearing in, says that the bill needs to stay a law…

HDB

March 8th, 2010
8:44 pm

Good night, all…..have to prepare for tomorrow AM!!

LA

March 8th, 2010
8:46 pm

“The Patriot Act authorizes searches, wiretaps, and searches of bank records WITHOUT warrants…even in wartime, as an American, I want my civil liberties protected!!”

The only way you’re going to be watched is if you are making calls to Al Quida. Sorry HDB but that “my liberties are being taken away by the Patriot Act” doesn’t hold water.

LA

March 8th, 2010
8:47 pm

“I do NOT want the government ease dropping on my calls or noting my bank transactions if I am an American citizen with the PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE!!”

Unless the government has a reason to listen to your phone calls, it’s not going to happen. Sounds to me like you’re paranoid.

The Law of the Pack

March 8th, 2010
8:50 pm

the budget was due to explode like that with or without Obama’s healthcare plan. These projections were known during the 92 campaign. The baby boomers are set to retire en masse.

This is last century’s story.

zzzzz

samuel

March 8th, 2010
9:00 pm

One more point Kyle. Obama’s last budget will br FY 2017, not FY 2020.

Churchill's MOM

March 9th, 2010
6:59 am

Looks like a few real Republican Congressmen are trying to actually get rid of earmarks for 1 year, we need to watch it and see if the Republican party actually gets it.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34071.html

Giant Generation

March 9th, 2010
8:09 am

Where were Kyle and Cindy Lou yesterday? Could there have been a big management meeting at the Urinal, in which new cut backs are announced? Is the turn around plan failing? Tell us Kyle, tell us.

Giant Generation

March 9th, 2010
8:21 am

Medicare is bankrupt, a failed Federal Government mandatory participation program that is so corrupt and full of fraud that the clowns in Baltimore are afraid to actually investigate the fraud. The private insurance companies have a tenth of the fraud that Medicare has, yet THEY are the whipping boy of the current clowns knows as the Obama Administration? It is amazing to me that the secretary of hhs dares go on National TV and say that Americans do not know what is best for them, the Administration does, and despite over 60% of Americans opposing ObamaCare, She says the program is for the American people’s own good. Amazing how these ugly women get in positions of power and think they git to speak for all Americans. You don’t, you double ugly hag, so shut up.

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david wayne osedach

March 9th, 2010
8:43 am

Is there any doubt that the Chinese will become the number one economy in the world during this century?

Stupidity

March 9th, 2010
8:51 am

We all know that the Iraq war was the biggest part of Bush’s budget bust. There was also the thoroughly expensive prescription drug benefit and the surplus that was created in the 1990’s was wilting away during the recession that occurred right at the beginning of Bush’s first term and the recession following 9/11. Regardless we all know that Iraq was a major part. Does that mean that spending should continue to rise? So Republicans lost their fiscal sanity that means the Democrats can do the same? It’s ridiculous. Whether we are spending on wars or entitlement the deficits would still be massive. The money will always be spent and no real reform will happen because neither party is willing to reform spending, entitlements, and our 80,000 pages of tax code and regulation.

Charlie Cipolla

March 9th, 2010
8:54 am

Can you people please stop and listen to yourselves? Read through all the 214 posts and it’s the same pointless crap from both sides. While you are busy arguing over basically BS, the political class takes grandchildren’s standard of living away. Jeeeze, you are all idiots.

LA

March 9th, 2010
9:30 am

Another wonderful union story. No wonder Ohio is losing jobs and companies to the south.

Workers reject contract, go on strike at local plant

HARRISON TWP., Montgomery County — Union employees at Chemineer Inc., after unanimously rejecting a new three-year contract proposal from the company, are on strike. No new negotiations have been scheduled, union and company spokesmen said Monday, March 8.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/business/workers-reject-contract-go-on-strike-at-local-plant-586421.html

Chris Queen

March 9th, 2010
9:37 am

George Bush is no conservative, as this conservative told everyone he knows. Being a moralist A-____ is not conservatism. Spending more money on discretionary requirements than Lyndon Johnson is not conservative. The Johnson/Bush Texas sized deficits are only outdone by the Dumb Bunny up to bat right now.

Glenn

March 9th, 2010
9:55 am

Nov. 15, 2002
Dick Cheney
“Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.”

BW

March 9th, 2010
10:12 am

Why is everyone still pretending that Bush was some kind of fiscal stalwart, Kyle? It’s intellectually dishonest to suggest that these current deficits have nothing at all to do with Bush’s policies. Medicare Part D, two wars, two tax cuts…all contribute to these deficits. In addition, the Dept of Homeland Security and Transportation Security Agency were also created…we all know that it’s called discretionary spending because we are not taxed to provide income for these programs. In addition, defense spending is higher than it was during Vietnam. Let’s not keep pretending that the services we demand as citizens without them being paid for has nothing to do with this…that earmarks and foreign aid elimination will balance the budget without any tax increases or spending cuts. But sides are guilty…conservative and liberal, Democrat and Republican. Perhaps when you guys retake both houses in November you will force some hard decisions…I’m betting you won’t. Can you even really name one example of entitlement cuts under a Republican Congress? How many of those pillars from the Contract with America were really implemented? Ideology is ideology but the people that end up elected are cowards…plain and simple…let’s call the spade a spade. For all this talk of conservatism, how many true conservatives are elected? I’ve seen plenty of social conservatism but no economic conservatism. I would like an answer to the President’s questions yesterday…when is a good time to address entitlements? Who will do it? This conversation has been going on since the Great Society was enacted by LBJ and every Republican president since has added a major government program. I appreciate that you have your principles to stand on and that you make well-reasoned arguments but that message gets lost when people get to Washington…I just wish that fact could be acknowledged.

BREAKING NEWS FROM ABC

March 9th, 2010
10:14 am

No More Progressives!

March 9th, 2010
10:25 am

HDB

March 8th, 2010
8:12 pm
ATLShirt….We all knew that the Patriot Act was a GOP grab on our civil liberties….and many people fell for it! Those who protested against it were called traitors and unAmerican…..

The why did Little Barry Sotoero and his administration just renew it?

If you’re so concerned with “civil liberties,” what do you think about the Mayor of New York City mandating how people can and cannot each their fried chicken? Where does he get the authority to do this?

No More Progressives!

March 9th, 2010
10:30 am

Charlie Cipolla

March 9th, 2010
8:54 am
Can you people please stop and listen to yourselves? Read through all the 214 posts and it’s the same pointless crap from both sides. While you are busy arguing over basically BS, the political class takes grandchildren’s standard of living away. Jeeeze, you are all idiots.

Thank you for your brilliant repartee.

In this country, people are free (at least, right now) to act like idiots, if they desire.

Fred P.

March 9th, 2010
10:33 am

It figures – once someone writes a piece using somewhat objective sources, the self-proclaimed pundits and experts emerge and immediately degenerate into the name-calling.

The points are:

1. Obama’s spending has FAR outstripped Bush’s spending.
2. Congress has been under the control of the Democrats since the last two years of Bush’s presidency.
3. While under the Democrats’ control, Congress sat around and did NOTHING during Bush’s presidency.
4. Only Congress can pass budget/spending bills – so any comments about Bush’s excessive spending have to go right back to the source… the Democrat-controlled Congress.

Bottom line – it’s the scum-sucking liberals that are gonna tank this country (helped by the Republicans – who I can’t even call conservative any more). Unless MAJOR changes take place this November, you won’t recognize this country in another 2 years.

CJ

March 9th, 2010
10:38 am

Kyle,

I don’t have a subscription to the WSJ, so I’m unable to read the entire article, but here’s a piece that you might want to check out if you haven’t already.

gerard

March 9th, 2010
10:54 am

1789 france historically is the model.. although the country was rich, the government due to financial excesses was broke. with a couple of years this country had undergone a violent revolution incurring the death of tens of thousands. follwing it was a dictator the emperpor napolean. this revolution is coming because of the unemployed, who will not give a damn whose in charge so long as the unemployed can feed their families. the us constitution will mean nothing other than a piece of paper. Unemployed lawyers such as myself will be drafted to create the institutions necessary to feed and clothe such people. I would readily agree to do such aproposition. the law schools would have plenty of unemployed students ready to take on this role, as the ideals of justice will be turned to those of survival I would have no problem sponsering such. i look forward to such work , although being a christian I will do everything to prevent violence and not act for discrimination In fact the workhouses and the poor laws of the 19th century england should be reinsituted by whoever is in charge of the united states the foreclosed homes , mortaged by many of the banks should be seized without compensation so that people do not have to live on the streets they can rent instead. futhermore, to prevent bloodshed and violence, the press will have to be persuaded that there is no other course. without such drastic measures, 2100 united states will be a wasteland with a popualtion of 60 million in a country like somalia or afghanistan

Danram

March 9th, 2010
11:12 am

These deficits are totally unacceptable. We are spending and borrowing our way to eventual ruin as a nation, yet nobody in the White House or in the Democrat-controlled Congress seems to care.

What needs to happen in November is that there needs to be a groundswell of Republican support, the GOP needs to take back Congress … and then they need to start ACTING LIKE REAL REPUBLICANS AGAIN!!!! From a domestic policy standpoint, George Bush and his crew were an absolute train wreck. We need a Congress who will follow the example of Jim Bunning by saying “ENOUGH!” and the be willing to take the political heat from all those special interest groups who will start wailing like stuck pigs when the gravy train is cut off. We also need a Republican Congress who will put deficit reduction above all else, and that means raising taxes. Despite what ideologues like Rush Limbaugh might say, it is simply impossible to close this massive budget deficit without raising taxes at the same time we cut spending. Anyone who says otherwise is either a fool or a liar.

Banned By Cindy

March 9th, 2010
11:27 am

Austrian economics. Individual liberty. Empire elimination. Tax overhaul. Constitutional government. States rights.

This is the way.

You think otherwise?

Then you’re complicit in the death of America and are therefore a traitor. And a cultist lemming too.

FDR started it. Obama is finishing it. Unless you do something.

Karl from Chicago

March 9th, 2010
11:28 am

It is true that deficits will be higher under President Obama than under President Bush. However, one needs to look at what causes this to be the case. The best analysis I have found was done by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3086 and http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3036).

“Some critics charge that the new policies pursued by President Obama and the 111th Congress caused the huge federal budget deficits that the nation now faces. In fact, the tax cuts enacted under President George W. Bush, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the economic downturn together explain virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years (see Figure 1).

The deficit for fiscal 2009 was $1.4 trillion and, at 10 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP), was the largest deficit relative to the size of the economy since the end of World War II. If current policies are continued without changes, deficits will likely approach those figures in 2010 and remain near $1 trillion a year for the next decade.

The events and policies that have pushed deficits to these high levels in the near term, however, were largely outside the new Administration’s control. If not for the tax cuts enacted during the presidency of George W. Bush that Congress did not pay for, the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that were initiated during that period, and the effects of the worst economic slump since the Great Depression (including the cost of steps necessary to combat it), we would not be facing these huge deficits in the near term.

While President Obama inherited a dismal fiscal legacy, that does not diminish his responsibility to propose policies to address our fiscal imbalance and put the weight of his office behind them. Although policymakers should not tighten fiscal policy in the near term while the economy remains fragile, they and the nation at large must come to grips with the nation’s long-term deficit problem. But we should not mistake the causes of our predicament.”

The report goes on to give a year by year budget impact for years 2009-2019 of the downturn, the TARP program, the economic recovery measures, the Bush era tax cuts and the continuing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as AMT relief, additional debt service costs and many other line items.

While these reports were prepared by a liberal think tank it appears to base its analysis on CBO and OMB budget numbers. I welcome an alternative analysis of the budget numbers along these lines. But merely comparing the deficits under Presidents Bush and Obama is a useless exercise if you don’t look at the policy decisions that drive the deficit numbers.

Rahmbo

March 9th, 2010
1:07 pm

plus he’s spending on what NEEDS to be spent’

Yes, because teachers unions and auto unions need more money! LOL

Goldman Sachs, Fannie and Freddie too!

96 SC

March 9th, 2010
1:11 pm

Boy George and his Band of nincompoots have changed the fabric of America forever in a very negative light in both Domestic and International Relations. Boy George, the White Dove, and Darth Vader has damaged America beyond repair.

Fix-It

March 9th, 2010
1:31 pm

I wonder why the dimacrats have voted down the balanced budget amendment?

Jason

March 9th, 2010
2:29 pm

dewstarpath : You don’t know what you’re talking about. The war in Iraq has cost less then 1 trillion so far.

Sam

March 9th, 2010
3:43 pm

Way to go Kyle! You were linked on RealClearPolitics.com

Robby House

March 9th, 2010
3:46 pm

It’s interesting how the left always points to Bush era fiscal irresponsibility (it certainly wasn’t in short supply during his presidency) as a cover to justify their own brand of fiscal excess that makes the former administration’s spending look like Ebenezer Scrooge.

dewstarpath

March 9th, 2010
4:21 pm

Jason – You obviously did not read my post.

The cost of Operation Iraqi Freedom was an well-known current
estimate of $687 billion. Operational costs increase with time –
and the operation has been going on for seven years now.
Nowhere did I state that the cost of the war in Iraq would be under
a certain number.

As LA stated, troops are still over there – so what kind of sense
does your post make ?

Jim

March 9th, 2010
11:22 pm

Unless there is radical reform in the way our government spends money and collects taxes then we are in for a world of hurt. Fact of the matter is that only a handful of programs make up the vast majority of the budget. They include 1. defense 2. Soc. Security 3. Medicare 4. Medicade 5. interest on the debt. Politicians can tinker around the edges and people can complain about pork barrel spending all they want, but the fact of the matter is that entitlement spending and defense is sapping America’s resources. As Americans live longer and require more Soc Sec. and Medicare the problem will only get worse, especially now that Soc. Sec. is projected to starting running deficits within the next decade. On top of all this Obama is aching to add yet one more large entitlement program to the list we already can afford. Time for people to realize that this problem is here and here to stay unless there is a major overhaual. Given the inability of congress and our presidents to make the hard choices and do what is right, don’t count on anything to change any time soon.

Irishmafia

March 10th, 2010
3:03 pm

Unbelievable !!!! Today I get a letter in the mail from the Census Bureau telling me that I will be receiving the Census form in the mail. You can’t make this stuff up. Millions of dollars wasted on a letter telling us we are getting another letter !!! These are the same idiots that will run our health care??? GOD help us all!

Irishmafia

March 10th, 2010
3:09 pm

Another brilliant Obama program. Weatherization as of Feb 2010 only 9100 homes around the country have been done yet they managed to spend 255 million dollars on the program so far (out of the 5-6 billion allocated) LA Times 2/18/10 That my fiscally conservative friends over $57,000 dollars per home! and worse employed only 2% of the workforce the Obamamites have said it would. Government at it’s finest!

Irishmafia

March 10th, 2010
3:17 pm

The USA is in a financial hole so deep no light will ever penetrate, yet our government manages to find grant money ( only 20 million dollars) to fund a children’ television program in Pakistan to teach their kids problem solving skills and critical thinking skills. (grants .gov) something our own students are woefully lacking in. HMM lets see 20 million dollars to fund 400 USA jobs paying $50,000 ea or 20 million to send to a friendly nation -maybe?/enemy for a TV show.You see which one the Obama administration chose.

Irishmafia

March 10th, 2010
3:31 pm

More waste. Sadly I could do this for months and never run out of material! Our government is totally out of control (no matter who is in Congress or the White House)

$4,545,000 for wood utilization research in 10 states by 19 senators and 10 representatives. This research has cost taxpayers $95.3 million since 1985. One would think that after 24 years of research all the purposes for one of the world’s most basic construction materials would have been discovered.
$700,000 by Senate CJS Appropriations Subcommittee member Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) for Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green to complete a monitoring system that will collect real-time weather observations through a statewide grid of stations in Kentucky. Apparently the Weather Channel is not sufficient.
$1,240,000 for two projects for Brown Tree Snakes control and interdiction in Guam by Rep. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) and Rep. Madeleine Bordallo (D-Guam). Since 1996, 14 projects worth $14.6 million have been earmarked in Hawaii and Guam for interdiction of Brown Tree Snakes, which are still slithering through the appropriations bill.
$39,700,000 by then-Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), for the Advanced Training Center. Sen. Byrd also allotted $39,700,000 for the Advanced Training Center in fiscal year 2008, bringing the two-year total of funding to $79,400,000.What is the Advanced training Center you ask? A little used duplication of the Federal Law Enforcement training Center ( Much used but nowhere overused) in Glynco GA.

Irishmafia

March 10th, 2010
3:37 pm

More waste Doesn’t even matter who is in the White House or Congress Sadly I could do this for months and never come close to running out of material. But for sure the new health care proposal will save taxpayers money and cut down on government waste LOL

$39,700,000 by then-Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), for the Advanced Training Center. Sen. Byrd also allotted $39,700,000 for the Advanced Training Center in fiscal year 2008, bringing the two-year total of funding to $79,400,000.! What is the Advanced Training Center you ask? A little used duplication of the well used but not overused Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Georgia.
$4,545,000 for wood utilization research in 10 states by 19 senators and 10 representatives. This research has cost taxpayers $95.3 million since 1985. One would think that after 24 years of research all the purposes for one of the world’s most basic construction materials would have been discovered.
$1,240,000 for two projects for Brown Tree Snakes control and interdiction in Guam by Rep. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) and Rep. Madeleine Bordallo (D-Guam). Since 1996, 14 projects worth $14.6 million have been earmarked in Hawaii and Guam for interdiction of Brown Tree Snakes, which are still slithering through the appropriations bill.

PhilPhat

March 11th, 2010
12:50 am

Mr. Obama convinced us that he could handle the job of POTUS. Now that he’s in year 2 of his administration, it’s time to shut up, stop whining, and get the job done. If the deficit is 4 times what it was when he took over, it’s because of his policies – such as the $787 billion stimulus. If Mr. Obama keeps on complaining that the job is too big for him, then let him resign and let’s get an experienced grown up in the office.