The show trial won’t go on

If this Washington Post story is accurate, the White House may soon announce that 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be tried in a military tribunal, not in a federal court in Manhattan. Better late than never.

The administration botched this one from the beginning, including President Obama’s telling statement that no one would be offended “when,” not “if,” KSM was convicted and executed — undermining the notion that this was going to be a fair trial to show off America’s justice system.

The anti-antiterror left will tear their clothes over this one because it is inconsistent with their narrative that our fight against Islamist terrorists is not a war but a mere law-enforcement problem — like a kind of “CSI: Afghanistan.” They vilified the tribunal system under President Bush and have had to watch as Obama’s deadline for closing the prison at Guantanamo Bay came and went to no effect. Now this.

So, expect many comments along these lines, from the Post’s story:

Marine Col. Jeffrey Colwell, acting chief defense counsel at the Defense Department’s Office of Military Commissions, said it would be a “sad day for the rule of law” if Obama decides not to proceed with a federal trial. “I thought the decision where to put people on trial — whether federal court or military commissions — was based on what was right, not what is politically advantageous,” Colwell said.

But all along it was the decision to stage a publicity-stunt trial in civilian court which was politically motivated; the White House has been forced into reversing course due to bipartisan opposition on principle.

And you know what? The people who hate us don’t care whether KSM is tried in a military tribunal versus a civilian court. They’re going to hate us anyway. In the same way, closing Guantanamo and moving terrorists to Illinois isn’t going to stop America-haters from hating America — just as they weren’t appeased when Obama replaced Bush in the White House.

The sooner everyone realizes that, the better.

25 comments Add your comment

JF McNamara

March 5th, 2010
9:42 am

We should’ve given Khalid Sheikh Mohammed a tax cut.

Tyler Durden

March 5th, 2010
10:07 am

Hmmm.. once again, nothing existed before Obama’s inauguration. What was Bush’s Justice Dept record for successful trials against Gitmo detainees? Of the hundreds help there (most for many years), how many got a guilty verdict after ANY trial?

Bush and the GOP cronies spent much more effort trying to build a partisan Justice Department than to represent the legal interests of the US. Karl Rove (the ‘brain’) spent a great deal of time building his partisan attack case against honest, objective attorneys who’s only sin was refusing to bow to partisan hackery. Did any on the Right screech in protest? Oh, that’s right… the facts didn’t support your stance so you ignored them. Just like Iraq. Just like most major issues…

No wonder you guys aren’t taken seriously. You’ve spent so much time in the echo chamber, you can no longer hear anything that isn’t shouted at you ad nauseum…

American Patriot

March 5th, 2010
10:17 am

“White House considers military trial for Khalid Shaikh Mohammed”
CNN

What they need to be considering is a military bullet to the head – although that’s too good, I gets my vote because it’s a cheap and effective way of properly handling this situation

Jess

March 5th, 2010
10:34 am

Now if they would drop the crazy idea of closing guitmo sanity to this process may be restored.

Guitmo is a piece of real estate, nothing more nothing less. What went on there was done by people following the rules they were given. Obama changed the rules so the offensive things stopped. Why spend $100 million to close a building which never hurt a soul.

RJ

March 5th, 2010
11:00 am

Better to just turn him loose in NYC. See how far he gets.

There are two things that bother me about this chain of events:

1. The notion that it costs too much to try someone in civilian court. Maybe the right will wake up and stop talking about how this is a reason to try KSM in a military tribunal. That’s a reson to reform how tax dollars are spent in the justice system, it has nothing to do with where a person should be tried.

2. Why is the justice department and the president bowing to an opinion poll of people who mostly have no idea what they are talking about? It’s the equivalent of a football GM letting the fans vote on what player to target in the draft.

Jess

March 5th, 2010
11:03 am

This is one case where I do not think the admin. is bowing to opinion. I think they are bowing to reason.

RJ

March 5th, 2010
11:07 am

Jess, I dont think any administration in this political climate bows to anything other than opinion. I’m yet to see a politician care more about doing his job than keeping it.

HDB

March 5th, 2010
11:16 am

Question: how many have been tried by military tribunal and are still imprisoned versus how many have been tried in civilian court and are still imprisoned?? Isn’t it true that those who were tried via military tribunal were freed….but those who were tried in civilian courts were CONVICTED??

Just wondered…….

LA

March 5th, 2010
11:27 am

Is Obama going to get anything done? Seems like every one of his campaign issues have yet to be fulfilled.

In other news, looks like Obama is not like very much in Jakarta.

Indonesian students protest Barack Obama’s visit

AKARTA, Indonesia – Scores of Islamic students staged protests outside Jakarta’s parliament and in at least three other major Indonesian cities on Friday against President Barack Obama’s upcoming visit to this predominantly Muslim country.

The students carried banners branding Obama as an enemy of Islam and an imperialist in downtown Jakarta as well as in the provincial capitals Padang, Yogyakarta and Surabaya.

They also threw shoes at large pictures of Obama’s head. An Iraqi journalist was sentenced to a year in prison for throwing his shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush during a news conference in Baghdad in 2008.

Protest organizer Ahmad Irhamul Fikri, spokesman for the Coordinating Board for Campus Proselytizing Institute, said bigger rallies will be staged next Friday in more Indonesian cities ahead of Obama’s March 20-22 visit.

Such demonstrations of hostility toward Obama are rare in Indonesia, where he enjoys widespread popularity because he spend part of his childhood in Jakarta while his mother was married to his Indonesian

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_re_as/as_indonesia_obama

LA

March 5th, 2010
11:28 am

Harry Reid: Only 36,000 Lost Their Jobs Today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC211h9AY-4

LA

March 5th, 2010
11:31 am

Kyle, what I don’t understand is why Obama and the democrat party is committing political suicide. WHY?

Howard Dean: Health bill hangs Dem incumbents and Obama out to dry in elections

Passing the healthcare proposals before Congress will “hang out to dry” every Democratic incumbent running for reelection this fall, Howard Dean said Thursday.

Dean, a physician by training who’s a former chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), said that Democrats in Congress — and President Barack Obama — would do themselves more harm than good by passing the current healthcare bill.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/84969-howard-dean-health-bill-hangs-dem-incumbents-and-obama-out-to-dry-in-elections

The American People

March 5th, 2010
11:32 am

How about that $7.2 billion dollars in stimulus money working hard so the 4% of Americans who don’t have access to HIGH SPEED internet because of where they live can get it.

Col. Nathan R. Jessup

March 5th, 2010
11:33 am

You better believe those detainees have been getting a stomach full of Code Reds.

LA

March 5th, 2010
11:42 am

I guess Obama didn’t learn his lesson yet.

Obama looking to give new life to immigration reform

In an effort to advance a bill through Congress before midterm elections, the president meets with two senators who have spent months trying to craft legislation.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-immigration5-2010mar05,0,1123497.story

CJ

March 5th, 2010
11:47 am

The anti-antiterror left will tear their clothes over this one because it is inconsistent with their narrative that our fight against Islamist terrorists is not a war but a mere law-enforcement problem…

The anti-antiterror left? I have to call b.s. on this one.

To clarify, this “mere law-enforcement problem” is not their narrative; it’s simply Kyle regurgitating Republican Party talking points. Of course, Republicans had no problem with Bush prosecuting terrorists in criminal courts, which according to former Attorney General Ashcroft, they proudly did over 300 times (as of 2005, according to a Bush Department of Justice report). Prosecuting terrorist in criminal courts only became controversial when a Democrat entered the White House (same with reconciliation, closing Gitmo, health insurance mandates, and numerous other ideas that Bush and Republicans used to support).

With regard to “CSI: Afghanistan”, what is the implication here? That the Obama Administration isn’t working hard to fight and win a war over there. The facts beg to differ. But of course, the facts won’t stop Kyle from perpetuating nonsensical talking points.

Linda

March 5th, 2010
12:53 pm

American@10:17, It was someone’s idea to dip those bullets into pigs’ blood before applying them.

Linda

March 5th, 2010
1:01 pm

I heard the reason they gave up on trying them in the States was because they couldn’t find any reasonably cheap jurors. All the ones they interviewed either said they would go to jail before they would show up or wanted guarantees of million dollar book deals & multi-man Secret Service details for life.

Hillbilly Deluxe

March 5th, 2010
1:03 pm

I’ve yet to see a politician care more about doing his job than keeping it.

Me either.

Bob

March 5th, 2010
1:29 pm

RJ, Obo is on record saying KSM should not be tried in a civilian court, why did he say that ?

No More Progressives!

March 5th, 2010
1:40 pm

Jess

March 5th, 2010
11:03 am
This is one case where I do not think the admin. is bowing to opinion. I think they are bowing to reason.

It’ll be the first time………………….

No More Progressives!

March 5th, 2010
1:46 pm

LA

March 5th, 2010
11:31 am
Kyle, what I don’t understand is why Obama and the democrat party is committing political suicide. WHY?

Howard Dean: Health bill hangs Dem incumbents and Obama out to dry in elections

LA, Dean is an umemployed proctologist in a state that only thaws 6 weeks a year. He has no business training, and the DNC was wise to get this nutcase out of the limelight, not that I’m in favor of giving the DNC any advice.

The Left will fall, dutifully, on their swords, and The One and Queen Nancy have mandated. The Left has wanted to Socialize medicine since FDR (perhaps before). BO want HIS name on the bill. To hell with the American people.

Let them self implode. After all, it’s Bush’s fault.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 5th, 2010
2:46 pm

I rarely have anything positive to say about Chauncey, but if the news report proves true I will credit him with good judgment in reversing his initial inclination.

LA

March 5th, 2010
3:08 pm

No More Progressives!

It just doesn’t make any sense as to why the democrats would want to go down like this. Say this health care bill doesn’t get passed. Obama will not get anything passed and will therefore become a lame duck until the GOP recaptures the White House. It won’t be Palin or Romney either. Romney sealed his presidential doom when he sided with Mccain recently. Palin is pitching tv shows…. Anyhoo, it’s just strange to me that the democrats would self implode like this.

Linda

March 5th, 2010
3:26 pm

The decision to try terrorists in NYC has never made any sense. It’s been one of the most unpopular moves by the White House. I thought that it was an attempt to “try” the Bush adm. Certain evidence could not be presented since there are no search warrants by soldiers on the battle field. These terrorists admitted their crimes before enhanced interrogation techniques were used. These techniques are favored by the majority of Americans. If these guys’ cases were thrown out for any reason, the WH would have blamed Bush, again & again, & gone after him & his adm.

Michael H. Smith

March 5th, 2010
4:53 pm

Are we at war or not? Are these terrorist criminals or a radical-religious rogue army operating without a nation state sanction?

1) Yes, we are at war.

2) These terrorists are organized and do have a chain of command, like any other military. Therefore, they can be consider an army however loosely formed and operatively rogue without a nation state sanction.

3) Which means they should be tried by the military and not in our criminal justice system.

Touching on the Democrat implosion theories: Perhaps the implosion was planed. Only the techniques and timing was off. Thereby missing the target of the intended object to be imploded. Kind of like what happened to the underwear bomber?

Long live the capitalist U.S.A. as we know it and want it to remain – UNTRANSFORMED! And may all of the socialist Democrat’s BIG GUB’MENT underwear catch ablaze.