On Linder’s retirement and legislative redistricting

Congressman John Linder surprised everyone over the weekend with the news that he won’t run for re-election this fall. The Republican from Gwinnett County was first elected to the U.S. House in 1992.

If we can take a cue from the large GOP field to replace Nathan Deal, who’s retiring from Congress to run for governor, there will be a lot of Republicans interested in a solidly Republican seat (it went for McCain 60 percent to 39 percent in 2008 and for Bush 70-30 in 2004).

Then again, there is an X-factor involved in a seat representing Gwinnett County: redistricting.

Georgia is projected to gain a 14th seat in Congress after this year’s Census and the subsequent reapportionment process. And no district in Georgia has seen faster population growth than Linder’s: just over 43 percent since 2000, according to 2008 population estimates. It doesn’t take a gerrymanderer to see that the new seat is likely to be squeezed into that northeast corner of metro Atlanta.

Will potential candidates wrestle with that factor as they decide whether to throw their hats in the ring? On the one hand, incumbency has its advantages, even if the incumbent’s district is altered. So, it would be easier to run in 2012 having won in 2010. And losing in 2010 could still increase a candidate’s name recognition for 2012 when there’s a brand-new seat to run for.

On the other hand, potential candidates who are in the Legislature might prefer to stay there and have a hand in drawing the new maps — and then run.

Redistricting will be one of the leading political fights in Georgia over the next two years. Consider Linder’s retirement one of the first fronts.

54 comments Add your comment

Whacks Eloquent

March 1st, 2010
10:20 am

Draft Herman Cain for Congress 2012!

LA

March 1st, 2010
10:25 am

He’s no charmer: Obama’s personal appeal not delivering results

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/He_s-no-charmer_-Obama_s-personal-appeal-not-delivering-results-85569262.html#ixzz0gwIzMSjo

StJ

March 1st, 2010
11:14 am

Gerrymandering congressional districts has absolutely zero benefit to the citizen and should be illegal.

Jefferson

March 1st, 2010
11:28 am

Trade a No for a No.

The Tar and Feathers Party

March 1st, 2010
11:38 am

The rats are leaving the sinking ship that is the USA. Debt, debt, and more debt, both public and private will result in a massive decline in the American lifestyle. How ironic, the architect of America’s decline, Dick Cheney, used the phrase “the American lifestyle is not negotiable,” when launching two foreign wars that would ultimately bankrupt the country. Remember, when Dick and his pet puppet President George took office, we had a surplus and the entire National debt was projected to be paid off in 2018. Satan just gave Dicky an extension on his contract for his Evil work in destroying America.

Peachtree Corners

March 1st, 2010
11:50 am

What I hope for in this area is representation of the people’s interests. Linder has been mediocre, at best, as have been most Georgia Republicans. Like to see someone with some legialative ability, a work horse and not a show horse.

LA

March 1st, 2010
11:54 am

Political Litmus Test: Bluest States Spilling The Most Red Ink

Powerful unions, big spending put Democratic states in deepest fiscal holes.

http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/25/democratic-states-bad-financial-shape-personal-finance-blue.html

LA

March 1st, 2010
12:03 pm

Al Gore Admits Errors in Climate Claims

Former Vice President Al Gore admits that mistakes have been made by the scientific community regarding the issue of climate change.

In an op-ed piece for The New York Times, Gore said: “It is true that the climate panel published a flawed overestimate of the melting rate of debris-covered glaciers in the Himalayas, and used information about the Netherlands provided to it by the government, which was later found to be partly inaccurate. In addition, e-mail messages stolen from the University of East Anglia in Britain showed that scientists besieged by an onslaught of hostile, make-work demands from climate skeptics may not have adequately followed the requirements of the British freedom of information law.”

CJ

March 1st, 2010
12:33 pm

Forgive me if I’m mistaken, but didn’t Linder co-author both The FairTax Book and the related legislation? If so, let’s hope that terrible idea is permanently retired with him.

Churchill's MOM

March 1st, 2010
12:42 pm

CJ 12:33 pm

The “fair tax” book was written by 3 PHD in economics who were commissioned by a Texas Oil Billionaire. Their job was to come up with a tax system under which he did not pay any taxes. John, who I know quite well, calls the PHDs his ghost writers.

MPercy

March 1st, 2010
1:25 pm

CJ

Can you explain this FairTax and why it is such a terrible idea?

Painful truth

March 1st, 2010
1:53 pm

MPercy

March 1st, 2010
1:25 pm

Despite arguments to the contrary, the fair tax is much to complicated to explain in this type of format…that being said, what the big selling point is that the 15 to 20% in embedded taxes will go away with the Fair tax…. Please tell me, What business is going to willingly give back 20% to their customers when they can put that money right into their pockets?????

The Tar and Feathers Party

March 1st, 2010
2:19 pm

The problem with the mis named fair tax is that it double taxes those of us who have saved our money. We already paid taxes on that money, and now you dead beat scum want to tax us again with a jacked up sales tax when we spend our money, while not taxing yourselves on you current income.

Churchill's MOM

March 1st, 2010
2:22 pm

I understand that Ralph Reed is going to run for Linder’s seat. That will fill Deal’s slot on CREW’s 15 most corrupt congressmen.. By the way Deal’s resignation helps Pelosi’s ability to pass health care, your math from last week just changed by 1 vote. Just goes to show the only honest politician is 1 that stays bought.

MPercy , the fair tax is a tax on the stupid, better watch out.

Churchill's MOM

March 1st, 2010
2:33 pm

MPercy

March 1st, 2010
2:33 pm

Tar & Feathers: Almost all of my savings are in untaxed, qualified plans. How did your savings all get taxed, did you fail to take advantage of the several different qualified (untaxed) mechanisms, like IRAs and 401(k)s? There’s about $3T in 401(k)s right now, none of which has been taxed even once, let alone double taxed.

Painful: any time expenses go down across an industry, some industry players try to keep their prices higher, and for awhile, they get away with it. But eventually, someone lowers their prices to get a competitive advantage, and son everyone follows suit or lose business. A few years ago, there was a (I think) $15 ticket tax for airlines. The tax expired, and the airlines quietly went on collecting the $15 as airfare. But that lasted about 2 days, as news that the tax had been repealed, after which all the airlines dropped their temporarily inflated prices. Why does every gas station on the same corner have the same price for gas?

dave

March 1st, 2010
2:38 pm

Churchill’s MOM – Tax on the stupid? If you’re so smart, how about you call Boortz around 9:15 tomorrow morning and explain that to him? Why not, because he’d eat your lunch and leave you bleeding on the side of the road. You know it, in fact, we all know it.

MPercy

March 1st, 2010
2:39 pm

Found it:

At the beginning of 1996, profits and traffic in the airline industry were affected by the expiration and reinstatement of a 10 percent federal excise tax on domestic airline tickets. Congress let the tax expire at the end of 1995 but reinstated it on August 17, 1996. The airlines lowered prices during this time and traffic increased—as did profits.

Churchill's MOM

March 1st, 2010
2:46 pm

Wing Boy , you might want to read this if you aren’t too busy throwing back a few.

http://blacklistednews.com/?news_id=7520

Churchill's MOM

March 1st, 2010
2:50 pm

dave 2:38 pm

I have been to several debates between Boortz and Allen Buckley ( last year’s Libertartian senate canadate) and Boortz came off a fool. Boortz refuses to take calls from people who don’t agree with him and know about the “fair tax”. Give Allen a call if you are interested in what the fair tax really is.

Madison

March 1st, 2010
2:53 pm

Dave, Boortz couldn’t eat anyone’s lunch if they have over a room temperature IQ. He would just hang up on them. A few years ago Boortz lost a debate with Cynthia Tucker on gun control. How many people do you know that would lose a debate with her?

Liz

March 1st, 2010
2:58 pm

Well, Churchill’s Mom, why is it surprising that Reed would run? We seem to have an affinity for crooked politicians in this state. As long as they say they are conservative and Christian, their actions do not seem to matter. We elect crooks, adulterers, and ethics violators all the time. What a sad state of affairs for our state.

Painful truth

March 1st, 2010
3:01 pm

MPercy

March 1st, 2010
2:33 pm

OK…. Do tell..when the airlines imposed a Fee ( tax) on luggage a couple of years ago under the guise of off setting the increased fuel cost. At the time gas was 3.25+ a gallon. Now gas is in the 2.50 to 2.60 range, and the baggage surcharge is still in place. But you seem to be one of those that believes that a business owners would NEVER stoop to squeezing pennies out of every available pocket. WAKE UP!!!!

Painful truth

March 1st, 2010
3:04 pm

dave

March 1st, 2010
2:38 pm

I would debate the merits of the Fair tax with Boortz and spank him until he had his do girl Belinda kill the call. he is good entertainment but please get off of his sack….his info is good for the uninformed but start giving up the facts and he fades like cheap outdoor paint!!!

MAC

March 1st, 2010
3:16 pm

Churchill’s Mom: That’s just an outright lie.

You don’t know Linder at all, let alone well, based on that statement. You have zero credibility.

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“CJ 12:33 pm

The “fair tax” book was written by 3 PHD in economics who were commissioned by a Texas Oil Billionaire. Their job was to come up with a tax system under which he did not pay any taxes. John, who I know quite well, calls the PHDs his ghost writers. “

lmno

March 1st, 2010
3:22 pm

I like some of the aspects of a national sales tax, however, i believe that the negative impact it would put on a local municipalities ability to borrow money for profects outweighs the positives it has in other areas.

All we really need to do is get rid of tax credits, deductions, and other things that complicate the tax code and make it easier for people to not pay. Simply make it so, “If you make this, your tax is this” regardless of your lifestyle, charitable contributions, number of children, marital status, ect..

Fix-It

March 1st, 2010
3:53 pm

The FairTax would be GREAT for everybody….

Churchill's MOM

March 1st, 2010
4:14 pm

MAC 3:16 pm

If you can catch John sober ask him..

CJ

March 1st, 2010
4:15 pm

MPercy,

There are a number of reasons that the Linder/Boortz sales tax proposal (I hate calling it a FairTax) is a bad idea, but the three that stand out for me is that it would result in significantly larger deficits, higher taxes for the middle class, and folks getting zinged in years when their spending necessarily exceeds their income such as when buying a new house or car, incurring major medical expenses, or loss of income due to a job loss–in effect, they’d be paying taxes on amounts that exceed their income.

The disturbing thing about this tax is that it’s being advertised as a 23 percent tax (a poll tested number), but most supporters don’t realize that this rate is fixed only for the first year. The legislation has a formula that automatically adjusts the rate based upon actual revenues in the previous fiscal year. Assume Georgia, for example, had an automatically adjusted sales tax these past couple of years. With revenues falling, that rate would be going up at a time when Georgians can least afford to pay it.

Churchill's MOM

March 1st, 2010
4:19 pm

MPercy 2:39 pm

What happened to the air line industry could very well happen under the “fair tax” but the good thing is we will never know, there is no way the lobbyist would let this happen.

Please explain why gas is $.12 cheaper in Madison than in Athens.. That should not happen under the premise of the “fair tax”

Jefferson

March 1st, 2010
4:20 pm

There are no fair taxes, the more you have or earn the more you pay. This is life.

Painful truth

March 1st, 2010
5:13 pm

Fix-It

March 1st, 2010
3:53 pm

You don’t know economics….The fair tax is a hot mess!!! The old Steve Forbes Flat tax is the best system for this country.

LA

March 1st, 2010
5:48 pm

A Republican Surprise

Mitt Romney? He couldn’t make the voters like him last time … Sarah Palin? She’d lose 47 states … Mike Huckabee? Better as a talk-show host … Tim Pawlenty, Jim DeMint, Bobby Jindal, David Petraeus? Too blah, too extreme, too green, and stop dreaming …

But murmur the name Mitch Daniels, and everyone perks up a bit. Would he win? Maybe not. But he’d be the best president of any of them …

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/01/opinion/01douthat.html?ref=opinion

Kyle Wingfield

March 1st, 2010
5:51 pm

Daniels had an op-ed in today’s WSJ about how he’s lowered the state’s health-care costs in Indiana: http://tr.im/Qixk

LA

March 1st, 2010
5:52 pm

Baby girl survives after being shot in the chest in parents’ ‘global warming suicide pact’

A seven-month-old baby girl survived three days alone with a bullet in her chest beside the bodies of her parents and toddler brother.

Argentines Francisco Lotero, 56, and Miriam Coletti, 23, shot their children before killing themselves after making an apparent suicide pact over fears about global warming.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1254619/Baby-girl-survives-shot-chest-parents-global-warming-suicide-pact.html

96 SC

March 1st, 2010
5:53 pm

Glen Richardson should run for Deal’s District and the former DOT Chairman should seek Linder’s District. Their Primary Platform should be based on Marital Fidelity and God Fearing Christianity. I am sure we the gullible would elect these misfits..

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 1st, 2010
6:23 pm

To the extent that I still live in Georgia, I live in Mr. Linder’s district. I will vote for a Fair Tax advocate, and I will vote against a Fair Tax opponent. And I will eat anyone’s lunch who tries to argue that a tax on income does less damage to our economy than a sales based tax, and I will eat anyone’s lunch who tries to argue that it is comparatively less fair to tax the big spenders than it is to tax the big savers.

The Tar and Feathers Party

March 1st, 2010
6:37 pm

Yo MPercy: my 401K and Ira’s are maxed out on my contributions, but I still have a huge pile of cash that I have already paid income tax on, and that I do not want to pay bloated sales with when I do spend some of it. You seem to think the only savings is in retirement accounts, some of us make much more than we are allowed to save in ira’s, 401k, etc. Regardless, the Unfair Tax is a sham…and will never pass.

player 24:7

March 1st, 2010
6:57 pm

Confucious say:”he who layeth with mother-n-law while wifey is preggers has major cajones”

Ghost of strom

March 1st, 2010
6:58 pm

What a pile of

MPercy

March 1st, 2010
6:59 pm

Tar&Feather: Good for you! No I don’t think that the only savings are in 401(k)s, and I make much more than is allowed in 401(k), too. But the hard truth is that most people a) don’t save at all (~1% is a high figure for the USA, traditionally) or b) save only in their qualified plans. That’s why I asked–it’s unusual that people have taxed cash lying around. I’ve got my 6 month cushion in cash assets, but that’s about it, everything else is in land, etc.

If you have cash lying around, then yes, a consumption tax will impact you. If you have invested the cash, and if the CG taxes and income taxes on dividends have been eliminated, you would not be hit on the unrealized earnings and future dividends by such a tax. And you certainly wouldn’t be subject to double taxes on future earnings (regular income).

P.S. I can understand if you dislike the FairTax (well not really, but will grant you your position) but why the name calling and *really* bad words?

Angry Voter in David Scott's District-13th Congressional

March 1st, 2010
7:06 pm

Liberals are terrified right now.

Even Mistress Pelosi looked scared and was obviously on the ropes yesterday.

BRILLIANT !

Charlie Rangel….. ????? Wuz up wit dat dude? If he were a conservative the MSM would’ve already crucified him.

BRILLIANT !

Those moonbats in DC need to be nervous. They’re time is up!

Barbara Boxer will lose in California !

BRILLIANT !

Now if the voters of Cobb, Douglas, Clayton (choke, cough, hack) and the other folks in that district can get rid of David “The Slug” Scott in November we can truly start getting things back on the right track.

I haven’t seen anybody seriously declare against him in this race yet…. Why not?

“The Slug” lives in a cesspool of liberal politics. He claims to be a Blue Dog but he isn’t a conservative democrat by ANY stretch of the wildest lunatic’s imagination. He’s out there on the fringe fellow citizens!

We need to get him gone in November !

FIRE DAVID SCOTT IN NOVEMBER !

Olbermann's Cold Sore

March 1st, 2010
7:20 pm

Why did you censor me Kyle?

I didn’t say anything offensive and I stayed on topic?

Olbermann's Cold Sore

March 1st, 2010
7:21 pm

You and Bob Barr won’t let people speak.

Why is that?

Olbermann's Cold Sore

March 1st, 2010
7:24 pm

Mr. Chips

March 1st, 2010
7:28 pm

Looks like LA missed her Ritalin again!

5 posts on 5 topics; none of which have anything to do with Mr. Wingfield’s article.

Olbermann's Cold Sore

March 1st, 2010
8:04 pm

Still no response and my comments have not been posted. Nothing more to add here. Back to Bookman’s discussion.

Charlie Rangel

March 1st, 2010
8:16 pm

Republicans should take on redistricting soonest and learn from Roy Barnes and his cronies in 2002.

LA

March 1st, 2010
8:38 pm

“Looks like LA missed her Ritalin again!

5 posts on 5 topics; none of which have anything to do with Mr. Wingfield’s article.”

Yet, you’ve said nothing about the topic…………….

Contradict much?

oldtimer

March 1st, 2010
8:56 pm

Kyle..I read the info from Indiana. It sounds promising. I am a big proponent of Fair Tax… Not a VAT as some people think. It could be wonderful for us all. We need some new ideas and some different way of doing things. What is being done is not working. And to some I will say I know a lot about economics. Most American ignore it and few schools teach much.