“Again irrelevant. I have made a number of points. You haven’t read them much less respond in a mature manner. What’s even worse is that I’m getting rapidly bored. Moreover, a real conservative would have left the room long ago, too embarrassed to remain.”
Only to you. You have made a few points and I responded to the ones that I felt you distorted. You’ve made some very immature comments about me acting like a Nazi AND by calling me a loser.
LA: I do admit to being caught up in the moment with “Loser Anonymous”. I AM sorry about that but you encourage such comments with your caustic comments and I was happy to give you a taste of what you seem to want to do almost all the time.
“For example, most Christian Church try to restrict or prohibit the participation of women in the clergy.”
The reason for this is in the Bible. Men are to lead. Nice try though.
“Again irrelevant. It’s one thing to start a war and it’s another to try and fight the war we need to (supported by the Republicans I might add) and trying to draw down the one that was a catastrophic mistake.”
No it’s not. Obama said he was going to close Gitmo and end the Iraq war. So far……………..
“And 4.4% unemplyment? Nope. Just less than 8% when Mr. Bush left office. Stupid and arrogant? Just methane here, not reality.”
OH REALLY??????
Bush vs. Clinton Years on Econonomy: Bush Pretty Good
And the unemployment rate 22 quarters into each expansion–jobs numbers come out more frequently – show that the current unemployment rate is 4.4 percent vs. 4.5 percent under Clinton.
“I AM sorry about that but you encourage such comments with your caustic comments and I was happy to give you a taste of what you seem to want to do almost all the time.”
Hmmmmm, no not really. I never gave you a reason to call me names.
I wrote: For example, most Christian Church try to restrict or prohibit the participation of women in the clergy.”
LA responds: The reason for this is in the Bible. Men are to lead. Nice try though.
_____
Remember who put the Bible together. It was men. Would you car to expound on why women are not considered competent to be ministers and priests?
____
I wrote: It’s one thing to start a war and it’s another to try and fight the war we need to (supported by the Republicans I might add) and trying to draw down the one that was a catastrophic mistake.”
No it’s not. Obama said he was going to close Gitmo and end the Iraq war. So far……………..
_____
Honestly, the hit keep on a coming. Mr. Obama did want to close Gitmo but has met steadfast opposition from the Republicans. That has slowed things down a lot. As for the Iraq War, agreements formulated by the Bush administration were in place and are being adhered to. Troups are being withdrawn according to the established schedule.
____
I wrote: “And 4.4% unemplyment? Nope. Just less than 8% when Mr. Bush left office. Stupid and arrogant? Just methane here, not reality.”
OH REALLY??????
Bush vs. Clinton Years on Econonomy: Bush Pretty Good
And the unemployment rate 22 quarters into each expansion–jobs numbers come out more frequently – show that the current unemployment rate is 4.4 percent vs. 4.5 percent under Clinton.
____
You quoted a conservative blog. The relevant numbers come from the US Labor Bureau. The relevant figure is the latest one for the Bush administration. That’s just short of 8%.
LA: Hmmmmm, no not really. I never gave you a reason to call me names.
____
You don’t seem to listen to yourself very much. You can insult people more than one way including belittling their beliefs and imparting negative characteristics to them. You have done both, not just to me but others as well.
“Remember who put the Bible together. It was men. Would you car to expound on why women are not considered competent to be ministers and priests?”
Because men are supposed to be the leaders. Women were great in the Bible. Mary, Jesus’s mother, Mary Magdelene who was the first to see Jesus risen from the grave, Esther, etc…..
By the way, I am not Catholic.
“steadfast opposition from the Republicans.”
LOLOL!!!! Yeah, even though the Democrats have total control…………
“You quoted a conservative blog. The relevant numbers come from the US Labor Bureau. The relevant figure is the latest one for the Bush administration. That’s just short of 8%.”
I also posted a government site with numbers from the last 10 years. It’s all there.
you can massage numbers any way you want (22 qtrs into expansion-good one)…give me a break…overall any sane person agrees, Clinton years were great economically, Bush II’s were horrible…its pretty simple really. however if you enjoy being delusional and lying to yourself…go ahead. if you’re using employment numbers, when clinton left 4%, when W. left 8%….easy yardstick..
“You can insult people more than one way including belittling their beliefs and imparting negative characteristics to them. You have done both, not just to me but others as well.”
I never insulted you. I only refuted your comments. If you feel that in some way I “hurt your feelings” then I would suggest you lighten up a bit. It’s a blog, not a nursery school.
LA writes: Let me ask you this. It will certainly clear up something. Do you think gays should be allowed to be pastors?
____
Are you implying that if I have no objection to a gay paster that I’m gay? You would be quite wrong if you think so. If I were in a position to appoint a pastor to a church, I would look for the best applicant. Whether they were gay or female would not be part of my decision.
“Clinton years were great economically, Bush II’s were horrible”
LOLOL!!!! Another distortion of the left. Bush dealt with 911 and the fall out for 2 years. Unemployment reached as low as 4.4% in 2006. Not even Clinton had a 4.4% rate.
“when clinton left 4%, when W. left 8%….easy yardstick..”
“Are you implying that if I have no objection to a gay paster that I’m gay? You would be quite wrong if you think so. If I were in a position to appoint a pastor to a church, I would look for the best applicant. Whether they were gay or female would not be part of my decision.”
1: I am not implying that you are gay. Your words not mine.
LA: I never insulted you. I only refuted your comments. If you feel that in some way I “hurt your feelings” then I would suggest you lighten up a bit. It’s a blog, not a nursery school.
_____
Again, I urge you to read your comments. You were definitely angry when I used the same tactics with you. Yes, this is a blog but people can conduct themselves in a dignified and respectful manner. In a nursery, we see children who don’t know any better. We’re supposed to.
It almost seems as if you feel obligated to be abusive.
LA writes: The Bible says that homosexuality is wrong.
The Bible also says an eye for an eye. We have moved on. In our world we have courts to settle disputes and mete out punishment to the guilty in a civilized manner.
any economist would say the same…of course goofy ideologues blogs are easier on fragile egos and fit nicely with preconceived notions..it appears that 3 weeks into the 2nd february of w.’s second term GDP was actually higher than clinton’s for almost 2 hourss, therefore W. was the greatest president ever….
yeah, liberals like to omit the part where the GOP had total control of the House and Senate, therefore forcing Clinton, who had a bad first term, to go with GOP ideas.
It didn’t hurt to have the dot-com boom…..which Clinton had NOTHING to do with.
Sam@3:25, My family is in protest mode. We don’t buy GM, GE, “green,” etc. We don’t watch Oprah, NBC, etc. We don’t use UPS. We canceled AARP (even tho they offered us a tote bag).
LA,
The bible also advocates the murder of homosexuals
Leviticus 20:13 ” ‘If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”
You agree?
“During the fourth quarter of 2009, the stimulus added “between 1.0 million and 2.1 million to the number of workers employed in the United States,” the CBO said.
The stimulus also boosted the country’s economic growth by 1.5 to 3.5 percent during the time period and lowered the nation’s unemployment rate by between 0.5 and 1.1 percentage points.
The CBO also said that in the fourth quarter the stimulus package increased the number of full-time jobs by between 1.4 and 3 million compared to the number of jobs that would have existed without the package.
“The bible also advocates the murder of homosexuals
Leviticus 20:13 ” ‘If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”
That was old Jewish law.
Now if that were true, wouldn’t we see churches all over the US who believe that the Bible is the literal word of God, kill gays in large numbers?
Ohhhh…right. I forgot that Clinton created 12 million jobs because he was the president that created the internet (no…that was Dole…my bad) and then he created all of those “dot-com” jobs that stayed around forever! And the the dot-com bust/collapse probably happened because of W. Yeah…that’s how it happened. We’ll say it that way.
Maybe not outright violence, as that would be illegal.
Out of morbid curiosity, why would you believe the bible as literal truth? Do you believe the Genesis story of creation as literal truth? Is evolution simply a liberal plot to discredit the supposed word of god?
“why would you believe the bible as literal truth?”
1: It’s never been proven wrong.
2: Every single Bible prophecy so far has come true.
3:It gives me peace about life.
4: I don’t have to worry about anything.
Bottom line:
John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
120 comments Add your comment
LA
February 23rd, 2010
2:39 pm
“More distortion. The Canadian prime minister made a personal choice. He doesn’t speak for his country on this issue.”
Yep, he made a personal choice to come to AMERICA to have his surgery. AMERICA! Not Canada.
sam
February 23rd, 2010
2:40 pm
what we need is more of a partnership between public/private monies..problem is they are always ripping each other off..
LA
February 23rd, 2010
2:41 pm
“Again irrelevant. I have made a number of points. You haven’t read them much less respond in a mature manner. What’s even worse is that I’m getting rapidly bored. Moreover, a real conservative would have left the room long ago, too embarrassed to remain.”
Only to you. You have made a few points and I responded to the ones that I felt you distorted. You’ve made some very immature comments about me acting like a Nazi AND by calling me a loser.
Pot meet kettle.
sam
February 23rd, 2010
2:41 pm
linda while you at it, i want a new car too. not a toyota though..
LA
February 23rd, 2010
2:41 pm
“i see from the comments above the crybaby is once again pulling the old bait and switch….no doubt with c in hand.”
LOL, ok.
Houckster
February 23rd, 2010
2:41 pm
LA: I do admit to being caught up in the moment with “Loser Anonymous”. I AM sorry about that but you encourage such comments with your caustic comments and I was happy to give you a taste of what you seem to want to do almost all the time.
sam
February 23rd, 2010
2:45 pm
very good houckster…now you go LA?
LA
February 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm
“For example, most Christian Church try to restrict or prohibit the participation of women in the clergy.”
The reason for this is in the Bible. Men are to lead. Nice try though.
“Again irrelevant. It’s one thing to start a war and it’s another to try and fight the war we need to (supported by the Republicans I might add) and trying to draw down the one that was a catastrophic mistake.”
No it’s not. Obama said he was going to close Gitmo and end the Iraq war. So far……………..
“And 4.4% unemplyment? Nope. Just less than 8% when Mr. Bush left office. Stupid and arrogant? Just methane here, not reality.”
OH REALLY??????
Bush vs. Clinton Years on Econonomy: Bush Pretty Good
And the unemployment rate 22 quarters into each expansion–jobs numbers come out more frequently – show that the current unemployment rate is 4.4 percent vs. 4.5 percent under Clinton.
http://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/bush-vs-clinton-years-on-econonomy-bush-pretty-good/
LA
February 23rd, 2010
2:49 pm
“I AM sorry about that but you encourage such comments with your caustic comments and I was happy to give you a taste of what you seem to want to do almost all the time.”
Hmmmmm, no not really. I never gave you a reason to call me names.
LA
February 23rd, 2010
2:50 pm
Houckster
Let me ask you this. It will certainly clear up something.
Do you think gays should be allowed to be pastors?
LA
February 23rd, 2010
2:53 pm
Unemployment from 2000-2010
2000 4.0 4.1 4.0 3.8 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.1 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4
2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.5 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.9 7.4
2009 7.7 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.8 10.1 10.0 10.0
LA
February 23rd, 2010
2:54 pm
A link to those stats.
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?series_id=LNS14000000
Houckster
February 23rd, 2010
2:58 pm
I wrote: For example, most Christian Church try to restrict or prohibit the participation of women in the clergy.”
LA responds: The reason for this is in the Bible. Men are to lead. Nice try though.
_____
Remember who put the Bible together. It was men. Would you car to expound on why women are not considered competent to be ministers and priests?
____
I wrote: It’s one thing to start a war and it’s another to try and fight the war we need to (supported by the Republicans I might add) and trying to draw down the one that was a catastrophic mistake.”
No it’s not. Obama said he was going to close Gitmo and end the Iraq war. So far……………..
_____
Honestly, the hit keep on a coming. Mr. Obama did want to close Gitmo but has met steadfast opposition from the Republicans. That has slowed things down a lot. As for the Iraq War, agreements formulated by the Bush administration were in place and are being adhered to. Troups are being withdrawn according to the established schedule.
____
I wrote: “And 4.4% unemplyment? Nope. Just less than 8% when Mr. Bush left office. Stupid and arrogant? Just methane here, not reality.”
OH REALLY??????
Bush vs. Clinton Years on Econonomy: Bush Pretty Good
And the unemployment rate 22 quarters into each expansion–jobs numbers come out more frequently – show that the current unemployment rate is 4.4 percent vs. 4.5 percent under Clinton.
____
You quoted a conservative blog. The relevant numbers come from the US Labor Bureau. The relevant figure is the latest one for the Bush administration. That’s just short of 8%.
Houckster
February 23rd, 2010
3:00 pm
LA: Hmmmmm, no not really. I never gave you a reason to call me names.
____
You don’t seem to listen to yourself very much. You can insult people more than one way including belittling their beliefs and imparting negative characteristics to them. You have done both, not just to me but others as well.
Linda
February 23rd, 2010
3:01 pm
Sam @ 2:41, If you had only 2 choices, would you choose a Toyota or a GM?
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:03 pm
“Remember who put the Bible together. It was men. Would you car to expound on why women are not considered competent to be ministers and priests?”
Because men are supposed to be the leaders. Women were great in the Bible. Mary, Jesus’s mother, Mary Magdelene who was the first to see Jesus risen from the grave, Esther, etc…..
By the way, I am not Catholic.
“steadfast opposition from the Republicans.”
LOLOL!!!! Yeah, even though the Democrats have total control…………
“You quoted a conservative blog. The relevant numbers come from the US Labor Bureau. The relevant figure is the latest one for the Bush administration. That’s just short of 8%.”
I also posted a government site with numbers from the last 10 years. It’s all there.
sam
February 23rd, 2010
3:03 pm
you can massage numbers any way you want (22 qtrs into expansion-good one)…give me a break…overall any sane person agrees, Clinton years were great economically, Bush II’s were horrible…its pretty simple really. however if you enjoy being delusional and lying to yourself…go ahead. if you’re using employment numbers, when clinton left 4%, when W. left 8%….easy yardstick..
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:04 pm
“You can insult people more than one way including belittling their beliefs and imparting negative characteristics to them. You have done both, not just to me but others as well.”
I never insulted you. I only refuted your comments. If you feel that in some way I “hurt your feelings” then I would suggest you lighten up a bit. It’s a blog, not a nursery school.
Houckster
February 23rd, 2010
3:05 pm
LA writes: Let me ask you this. It will certainly clear up something. Do you think gays should be allowed to be pastors?
____
Are you implying that if I have no objection to a gay paster that I’m gay? You would be quite wrong if you think so. If I were in a position to appoint a pastor to a church, I would look for the best applicant. Whether they were gay or female would not be part of my decision.
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:06 pm
“Clinton years were great economically, Bush II’s were horrible”
LOLOL!!!! Another distortion of the left. Bush dealt with 911 and the fall out for 2 years. Unemployment reached as low as 4.4% in 2006. Not even Clinton had a 4.4% rate.
“when clinton left 4%, when W. left 8%….easy yardstick..”
And when Obama leaves…….25%…….
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:08 pm
“Are you implying that if I have no objection to a gay paster that I’m gay? You would be quite wrong if you think so. If I were in a position to appoint a pastor to a church, I would look for the best applicant. Whether they were gay or female would not be part of my decision.”
1: I am not implying that you are gay. Your words not mine.
2: The Bible says that homosexuality is wrong.
Houckster
February 23rd, 2010
3:09 pm
LA: I never insulted you. I only refuted your comments. If you feel that in some way I “hurt your feelings” then I would suggest you lighten up a bit. It’s a blog, not a nursery school.
_____
Again, I urge you to read your comments. You were definitely angry when I used the same tactics with you. Yes, this is a blog but people can conduct themselves in a dignified and respectful manner. In a nursery, we see children who don’t know any better. We’re supposed to.
It almost seems as if you feel obligated to be abusive.
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:10 pm
“You were definitely angry when I used the same tactics with you.”
I never called you a nazi or a loser.
“It almost seems as if you feel obligated to be abusive.”
Pot meet kettle.
Kyle Wingfield
February 23rd, 2010
3:11 pm
LA, Houckster, that’s enough.
Houckster
February 23rd, 2010
3:13 pm
LA writes: The Bible says that homosexuality is wrong.
The Bible also says an eye for an eye. We have moved on. In our world we have courts to settle disputes and mete out punishment to the guilty in a civilized manner.
It is dangerous to take the Bible too literally.
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:16 pm
“It is dangerous to take the Bible too literally.”
I take the Bible as the literal word of God.
“The Bible also says an eye for an eye. ”
Your point?
sam
February 23rd, 2010
3:18 pm
any economist would say the same…of course goofy ideologues blogs are easier on fragile egos and fit nicely with preconceived notions..it appears that 3 weeks into the 2nd february of w.’s second term GDP was actually higher than clinton’s for almost 2 hourss, therefore W. was the greatest president ever….
in my world, clear heads and honesty prevail….
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:24 pm
“in my world, clear heads and honesty prevail….”
Clinton good! Bush bad!
Yep, honesty prevailed….lololol
Houckster
February 23rd, 2010
3:25 pm
Sam, I’m out of the room. I enjoyed your comments.
sam
February 23rd, 2010
3:25 pm
linda, depends on make/model…but honestly i’d probably still; go with toyota but not before a nice check on all brake/engine systems..
sam
February 23rd, 2010
3:26 pm
on the economy absa frickin lutely…..pull your pants back up, he’s watching you…
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
“on the economy absa frickin lutely”
yeah, liberals like to omit the part where the GOP had total control of the House and Senate, therefore forcing Clinton, who had a bad first term, to go with GOP ideas.
It didn’t hurt to have the dot-com boom…..which Clinton had NOTHING to do with.
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:34 pm
“pull your pants back up, he’s watching you…”
Yeah, that’s what Monica used to tell Bill when Hillary was coming around the corner.
Linda
February 23rd, 2010
3:36 pm
Sam@3:25, My family is in protest mode. We don’t buy GM, GE, “green,” etc. We don’t watch Oprah, NBC, etc. We don’t use UPS. We canceled AARP (even tho they offered us a tote bag).
Kevin
February 23rd, 2010
3:45 pm
LA,
The bible also advocates the murder of homosexuals
Leviticus 20:13 ” ‘If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”
You agree?
J.R.
February 23rd, 2010
3:45 pm
LA, Houckster…My Dad could beat-up your Dad.
CJ
February 23rd, 2010
3:47 pm
CBO Report (pdf):
“During the fourth quarter of 2009, the stimulus added “between 1.0 million and 2.1 million to the number of workers employed in the United States,” the CBO said.
The stimulus also boosted the country’s economic growth by 1.5 to 3.5 percent during the time period and lowered the nation’s unemployment rate by between 0.5 and 1.1 percentage points.
The CBO also said that in the fourth quarter the stimulus package increased the number of full-time jobs by between 1.4 and 3 million compared to the number of jobs that would have existed without the package.
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:50 pm
“The bible also advocates the murder of homosexuals
Leviticus 20:13 ” ‘If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”
That was old Jewish law.
Now if that were true, wouldn’t we see churches all over the US who believe that the Bible is the literal word of God, kill gays in large numbers?
Nice try!
sam
February 23rd, 2010
3:51 pm
linda, take the tote and then cancel….you can never have too many totes.
what are you guys protesting?
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:52 pm
“You agree?”
Nope, because you can’t point out to one single Bible believing church that has advocated violence towards gays.
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm
“My Dad could beat-up your Dad.’
Uh oh, looks like a blogger is advocating violence towards my family. KYLE!!!!!!!!!
Blue
February 23rd, 2010
3:56 pm
Ohhhh…right. I forgot that Clinton created 12 million jobs because he was the president that created the internet (no…that was Dole…my bad) and then he created all of those “dot-com” jobs that stayed around forever! And the the dot-com bust/collapse probably happened because of W. Yeah…that’s how it happened. We’ll say it that way.
sam
February 23rd, 2010
3:57 pm
i thought you took the bible as the ‘literal word of god’ LA?
LA
February 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
“thought you took the bible as the ‘literal word of god’ LA?”
I do. God doesn’t contradict and He doesn’t tell his believers to go kill gays.
sam
February 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
disregard that , i’ll stay out of the god/religion discussion
Kevin
February 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
Maybe not outright violence, as that would be illegal.
Out of morbid curiosity, why would you believe the bible as literal truth? Do you believe the Genesis story of creation as literal truth? Is evolution simply a liberal plot to discredit the supposed word of god?
LA
February 23rd, 2010
4:01 pm
“Do you believe the Genesis story of creation as literal truth?”
Yep.
“Is evolution simply a liberal plot to discredit the supposed word of god?”
No not a plot. Just blindly believing in something that in no way can be proven.
Kevin
February 23rd, 2010
4:03 pm
“No not a plot. Just blindly believing in something that in no way can be proven”
The same exact thing could be said for the creation story you know….and belief in god or any other deity as well…
LA
February 23rd, 2010
4:03 pm
“why would you believe the bible as literal truth?”
1: It’s never been proven wrong.
2: Every single Bible prophecy so far has come true.
3:It gives me peace about life.
4: I don’t have to worry about anything.
Bottom line:
John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
LA
February 23rd, 2010
4:04 pm
“The same exact thing could be said for the creation story you know….and belief in god or any other deity as well…”
True, but I believe that God created the world.