Change the law to protect sexually exploited children

This year is, in many ways, a moment of truth for Georgia’s conservatives. Who knew that the fate of 12-year-old sex slaves would be front and center?

Out of the blue, a fight broke out this week among social conservatives over a child prostitution bill sponsored by Sen. Renee Unterman (R-Buford).

The bill would change the law so that children under 16 — the age of consent in Georgia — are not charged with prostitution and instead are considered victims. The FBI lists Atlanta among the cities where child prostitution is most rampant.

“Decriminalization of prostitution,” cried groups such as the Georgia Christian Coalition and Concerned Women for America of Georgia. Some of them said Unterman had “good intentions” but was misguided.

Actually, I think they have that charge backward.

The arguments against the bill tend to conflate adult prostitutes and children.

When holding people responsible for their actions, we presume they choose to act. The notion that kids aged 12 to 14 — the average age of entry for children in the commercial sex industry, according to FBI stats — can choose to sell their bodies doesn’t square with other legal treatments of minors.

Under Georgia law, a 15-year-old girl cannot consent to sex with her boyfriend. There are legal restrictions on her ability to work. So, how can she consent to having sex for money?

(For the record, since the more hysterical groups claim the bill would please the likes of the North American Man Boy Love Association, Unterman’s bill covers boys and girls alike.)

Studies of Georgia’s child sex industry indicate that these children often are trafficked. A Future Not a Past, a statewide project of the Juvenile Justice Fund, says half of the girls prostituted in Georgia are brought here from another state.

Add the safe assumption that some Georgian children are forced into prostitution, and it’s clear that a majority of these kids are sex slaves.

Treating the children as victims does not diminish the criminality of pimps, gangs and “johns” exploiting them. Their roles will remain illegal, and police will still have reason to intervene in these situations. If the bill needs to be altered to make that clear, so be it.

For her part, Unterman argues that her bill would aid the prosecution of exploiters.

“It’s much easier to take a child into custody and put them into a secure, therapeutic facility and get them to talk to us,” she says. If you first handcuff children and throw them in jail, on the other hand, “they’re not going to rat out that pimp.”

Speaking personally, what’s most disappointing here is hearing such loud opposition in the name of Christianity.

Umbrella groups oppose the bill, but coalitions of churches are begging legislators to act. They’ve also formed organizations like Street Grace to help sexually exploited children. My family’s church is one of them.

Another participant is North Avenue Presbyterian Church — which, statistics tell us, sits amid a hotbed of child exploitation. While pledging to work with others to resolve differences on the legislation, North Avenue’s urban ministries coordinator, Phil Cobb, says the imperative is to help the victims.

“In Scripture, and in the Christian faith, there is a theme of justice, and providing a voice to those who are victims of injustice is a clear theme throughout the Bible,” says Cobb.

“For us, once we found out this was happening, we felt like we had no choice but to answer the call.”

Amen.

86 comments Add your comment

Churchill's MOM

February 5th, 2010
7:33 pm

Wing Boy, I am SO proud of you..

Aquagirl

February 5th, 2010
8:19 pm

Two thumbs up, Kyle. Opponents of this bill display the ugliest side of social conservatism. I hope it doesn’t win out.

Michael H. Smith

February 5th, 2010
9:30 pm

Sen. Unterman is trying to thread the eye of a very fine needle, which is not to say that it cannot be done. Few will doubt that her intentions are good and necessary. It is the remaining uncertainty others have of unintended consequences that causes the contentions among conservtives.

I wish her well. May the ALMIGHTY anoint you Sen. Unterman with the wisdom of Solomon, for verily you will need it.

Spot

February 5th, 2010
10:20 pm

Thank you for writing this. Excellent job.

Ayn Rand was right

February 5th, 2010
11:35 pm

Good job Senator Unterman! To those opposing for spiritual reasons, shame on you! You would punish children managing to the exception, instead of providing protection and managing to the rule.

Real Athens

February 6th, 2010
1:16 am

Further proof that the GOP of Eisenhower does not exist in this state.

As I’ve written before, the GOP of today sound a lot like the Dixiecrats of yore.

david wayne osedach

February 6th, 2010
8:27 am

I can’t see of any 12 year old “deciding” to be a prostitute. But I can see a lot of forces persuading them to.

tony

February 6th, 2010
9:15 am

Great column! It is trragic that so-called “Christians” are opposed to this legislation. It seems they have exposed their hand as hateful, narrow-minded, racist bigots. Certainly, Jesus Christ himself would be for this legislation because he ministered to prostitutes, lepers, and the poor. Sadly, many of our politicians are in the back pockets of these radical Christians, and I’m afraid the bill may not pass. It would be interesting to know where the candidates for Governor stand on this issue.

MB

February 6th, 2010
9:29 am

Great commentary Kyle. There’s hope for you yet.

neo-Carlinist

February 6th, 2010
9:30 am

unfortunately, this issue is not as black and white as it seems. it is obvious these children are not criminals (or even “prostitutes”). they’re sex slaves. that said, the “age of consent” the Genarlo Wilson case, and children who marry before the age of 21 make enforcement of any law difficult. one would think the State simply needs to go after the pimps and the Johns (true criminals) hard. charge ANY adult who solicits/engages in sex with ANY child under the age of 15 with child molestation (or whatever the OCGA calls it), but as stated, how does law enforcement/the courts deal with the previously cited cases where teenagers are operating within the law? it’s not so much a case of “decriminizing prostitution” as it is “criminalizing” otherwise legal behavior. at the end of the day, the zealots and “faith-based” crowd need to police their own while the State sorts out this mess. I freely admit that I have little “faith” in this, but as I said, let’s start by increasing pressure on prosecuting (and if convicted, sentencing pimps to LIFE IN PRISON, where they’ll hopefully be “executed” by other inmates). let’s end the foolish “war on drugs” and focus assets/energy on child exploitation/prostitution. this is very much a “pick your poison” dilema, but I don’t like pimps.

Boots

February 6th, 2010
9:38 am

Kyle, great article.

Unfortunately, some Christians just don’t get it — choosing rather to be Pharisees who are quick to judge, slow to forgive and rebuked by Jesus!

TnGelding

February 6th, 2010
9:53 am

I’m shocked that they might be treated like criminals now. This is a no-brainer. Welcome to the voices of reason, Kyle. But what would be wrong with decriminalizing prostitution, period? Let the hot-blooded young men go out and pay for it instead of pressuring our teenage daughters into unwanted relations. As for the pimps and exploiters, is any punishment too severe?

MediaMoxxie

February 6th, 2010
10:03 am

The reason politicians and the like don’t “ACT” on this, is that MANY of them solicit child prostitutes for their OWN personal sex service — or, at the very least, their “good buddy” does. If their was a true investigation of “Craigslist” — many would be shocked at how many of respondents of sex ads come from the high mighty in our government as well as those of other states…including corporate CEO’s, etc.

Why do you think child prostitution/sex slaves has gone on so long?

Cirque du Logic

February 6th, 2010
10:10 am

Contrast this article with Cynthia Tucker’s abstinence-only article about the exact same demographic and you can glean some insight into just how complex this issue is.

Throw in Pete Townsend and Tebow at the superbowl, and you get America 2010.

May God have mercy on our souls.

Squared Circle

February 6th, 2010
10:10 am

“Great column! It is tragic that so-called “Christians” are opposed to this legislation. It seems they have exposed their hand as hateful, narrow-minded, racist bigots. “-tony

You mean like Obowma’s former pastor, Rev. Wright, who preached hate against the white man and who said “GOD DAMN AMERICA! GOD DAMN AMERICA!” and blamed 9/11 on America? The Teleprompter In Chief listened to him for what, about 20 years? Just curious on what the liberal mind thinks there, “tony.” But we know. ONLY so-called right-wing Christian fundamentalists have “racist” bones in their bodies.

“And they will…attack you if you try to point out what’s going on in white America, the U.S. of KKK A.”- Rev. Wright

Uh huh. Anyone ever see CNN or the New York Times mention that? Didn’t think so. I can’t imagine if Sean Hannity had called the US “The US Black Panther Of The US.” Well, we’ve already seen that the current Attorney General, William Holder, didn’t want to prosecute that party for intimidating voters in PA when the nation mindlessly voted for Obowma (you don’t like your “change” so much these days, do you Amerrika???).

But anyway, this article hits a sore point. In the 1700s, 1800s and even well into the 1900s girls regularly got married at 15, 16, 17, and 18. Of course they had to because they had to grow up fast. There was no government welfare tit, there was no government sex education program in school, there were no government medical facilities, and there were no whineyassed liberals bedwetting over someone’s feelings getting hurt and – God forbid – someone’s self esteem being in jeopardy.

Today, we are a nation being dumbed down. Dumbed down by government and dependence on it. Dumbed down by people who want to control our lives from cradle to grave (just look at how much the Democrats want to control us in EVERYTHING from what we eat and drive to reduce global warming to how we choose to educate our children). It is a miracle this nation has come so far considering the hardships and challenges of our Founders and early settlers, but it is reality that the current administration and Pelosicrats are hell bent on destroying everything built and rebuilding it in their Socialist Utopian fascist eyes.

So, where does all that lead to this article? It’s always amusing reading liberal droolers on Christian fundamentalists and “policing their own.” I’d agree if those mental midgets on the sick left didn’t want to police US ALL. But Kyle’s point is brilliant:

“Under Georgia law, a 15-year-old girl cannot consent to sex with her boyfriend. There are legal restrictions on her ability to work. So, how can she consent to having sex for money?”

This just goes to show that the far right and the kook libtard left are both equally pathetic and make absolute ZERO sense.

Squared Circle

February 6th, 2010
10:13 am

Oops, make that AG “Eric” Holder. I get so confused with King William Obama and all…….

@@

February 6th, 2010
10:17 am

Kyle, as far back as 1944, behavioral psychologists have been signaling that young girls who hail from single-parent homes (fatherless) are at greater risk of being sexually exploited.

There was a time when the majority of parents make sacrifices FOR their children…now it’s easier to simply SACRIFICE the children.

I applaud Senator Unterman’s efforts, but she’ll run up against opposition from those (leftists most) who would argue that teen sex is normal and a right of passage. Am I the only one who finds it odd that the National Organization of Women promoted the sexual revolution and now works endlessly to discourage fathers in the home? Equal rights for women!!?!!

I say thbbpppptt to NOW.

Karen

February 6th, 2010
10:18 am

Some people wield Christianity to bully, judge and punish their less fortunate bretheren. May God show them the same compassion that they are showing these victimized children.

Ella

February 6th, 2010
10:19 am

To @@:

IF you are condemning single parent homes, then you are encouraging would-be single mothers to have abortions.

Is that what you’d prefer?

Gayle White

February 6th, 2010
10:20 am

Amen, brother. Thanks to you and Jim Galloway for putting this issue out for public exposure. The contradictions in the law and in legislators’ attitudes concerning consenting teenagers vs. young sex slaves is hard to swallow. Good for N. Ave. Pres., your church and others who display true Christian compassion vs. an irrational rush to judge.

Byron Mathison Kerr

February 6th, 2010
10:28 am

“Good people make good Christians. Bad people make bad Christians.” — unknown

As a gay man, I have had to deal with the bad Christians almost all my life. Their culture is based on blaming and punishing others — never themselves — and they tend to spread it out as broadly as possible.

I suppose because these young teenagers have lost their innocence, these so-called bad Christians require blame and punishment. This issue has been quite an expose into their mind-set.

I believe any rational, compassionate person would want to rescue these horrifically exploited young people instead of further victimizing them in the criminal justice system. Given proper care and guidance, there is every reason to believe many of them will go on to live normal, happy lives.

There are many times when mercy leads to a better outcome than blame.

Thanks Kyle

February 6th, 2010
10:28 am

I am usually no tin your corner on lesser issues, but this is one issue that unites us all… Democrat, Republican. Liberal and Conservative. You should be proud of this article Kyle. It could go a long wa in exposing the crass attitudes of some so-called Christians.

And to Squared Circle… Your deflection of this issue onto President Obama is a joke. He has nothing to do with this issue no matter ho much you want to blame him for it. And it sounds as if you are all for punishing young girls for being raped and taken sexually advantage of, which says to me that you are one sick individual.

@@

February 6th, 2010
10:28 am

Ella:

I’m not surprised that you see abortions as the ONLY option. I’m convinced that NOW’s ONLY interest is to PROTECT a “woman’s right” to sexual freedom with simple solutions.

I would prefer that adults behave like responsible adults.

Michael H. Smith

February 6th, 2010
10:55 am

The level of vitriol is amazing. More heat is being generating than light, Kyle.

Courteous advice: Don’t get too over wrought about the objecting Christians. This bill can be amended to meet their valid concerns without further victimizing the victims. Reading the tea leaves, S.B. 304 will become a law.

Boots

February 6th, 2010
10:58 am

Square Circle: You need a freakin’ editor.

Jesus, your post was almost as long as “War and Peace.” Next time, cut to the dang chase.

Squared Circle

February 6th, 2010
11:00 am

“And to Squared Circle… Your deflection of this issue onto President Obama is a joke. He has nothing to do with this issue no matter ho much you want to blame him for it. And it sounds as if you are all for punishing young girls for being raped and taken sexually advantage of, which says to me that you are one sick individual.”

1). Obowma is our president. PERIOD. The buck stops with him – or at least, that’s what you libtards always said when Bush was president (and CONTINUE to blame him for that matter).

2). Nowhere, no WAY did I condone the exploitation of children. That is SO typical liberal of you – LIE about what someone says or writes. Now exactly what part of me applauding Kyle’s logic did you NOT understand?

I’d suggest, and this is only a suggestion, drooler, reading what people REALLY post instead of emoting and bedwetting every time someone says something negative about your Dear Leader.

Have a nice day.

BehindEnemyLines

February 6th, 2010
11:02 am

Your “disappointment” with the source of the opposition is probably similar to my disappoint in hearing alleged “conservatives” try to legitimize the decriminalization of prostitution. And your attempted logic re: “So, how can she consent to having sex for money?” is just sad.

There are legal restrictions on a number of things, regardless of age, but that doesn’t make committing an act in violation of those laws any less illegal. In this instance, the prohibitions don’t make for less criminal behavior, they simply add another layer of possible charges (more relevant to the customers than the, ahem, “service providers”).

A bill that provides an _option_ to avoid prosecution for teens where evidence indicates they were not acting voluntarily? That might get some traction. But one that foolishly & naively declares everyone in a certain class a victim by default? That’s liberalism at it’s finest & Unterman ought to be ashamed of herself.

Byron Mathison Kerr

February 6th, 2010
11:04 am

To Squared Circle, February 6th, 2010, 11:00 am:

To me, President Obama is a carefully written essay in a world dominated by sloppy, sophomoric sound bites.

CJ

February 6th, 2010
11:52 am

Thanks for a great post today Kyle. I’ve written my state senator and state representative asking them to support this bill. I hope more of your readers will do the same.

Darlene

February 6th, 2010
11:54 am

Amen, CJ & neo-Carlinist.

Rightwing Troll

February 6th, 2010
11:57 am

Ahhhh… That’s right @@,
Rail on against “baby daddy” and them leftists…

As always, fully ignore that 75% of the marriage ceremonies performed today will end in divorce, thusly increasing the number of fatherless homes. THAT demographic doesn’t need to be discussed for a number of reasons, chiefly that fathers are simply not afforded any rights in the conservative courts of GA, other than to be an ATM.

I know I hope and pray for my two children to not have to live without their father in 80% of their lives. But regardless of any of the actual facts of our lives. The courts will simply tell me that “the calf don’t follow the bull home”, and that’s the entire reason I can only “visit” with my children from time to time.

Keep in mind as you rail on about “fatherless homes” that not all children have to be that way, some are forced to be by the political system you support.

I tell anybody that asks, and I tell my son this. Marriage is a sham. Don’t do it. Shack up with her if you wish. Make babies if you must, but DO NOT GET MARRIED. That way when the inevitable end of the relationship occurs, you have EXACTLY the same paternal rights (next to none) with EXACTLY the same financial obligations to your children ( a percentage of your gross income).

But, your personal assets and all you’ve spent your adult life working for won’t be at risk.

Garbage Talks

February 6th, 2010
12:01 pm

I’ll tell you what’s pathetic: none of you uberPudwits can comments without taking a swipe at each other.

You’re all children with the minds of mongoloid nincompoops.

Why don’t you all just poof away like the fairy wankers you truly are.

Goofballs.

Sage

February 6th, 2010
12:13 pm

Those who think decriminalizing underage prostitution will actually help are naive and have no firsthand experience with this problem. As someone in law enforcement who has actually dealt with adult and child prostitutes, I can tell you this will lead to an exponential growth in child prostitution in Atlanta.

Child prostitutes are victims, but the majority of them don’t see themselves in that way. That is the problem with this legislation. It treats the children as though they are bing chained to a wall and forced to be prostitutes, and once the cops find them, they’ll want to go home to their parents and get therapy. Even though child prostitutes cannot legally consent to sex, most of them are consenting to it because they have been so brainwashed that they don’t see anything wrong with what they are doing. It’s almost like Stockholm Syndrome. This, in my opinion, is worse than the kids being chained to a wall. In that scenario, those kids are being held against their will. But that’s not the norm. In most cases, these child prostitutes are runaways. If you find them and take them home, they’re just going to run away again and probably go right back to what they were doing.

If you really want to help cut the problem of child prostitutes, you need to recognize that a lot of these kids don’t want help and think they are grown and can make their own decisions. They are wrong, but if you don’t recognize that mindset, you’re going to fail at helping them, like this bill is going to do. If you really want to curb child prostitution, you need to give the child prostitutes two options: Help or Jail. This is how many courts have successfully dealt with drug abusers committing crimes to support their addiction. It’s called drug court. Get help, stop making bad decisions, or go to jail.

Glass House Rocker

February 6th, 2010
12:13 pm

Paying lip service to the teachings of Christ and calling oneself a “Christian” who stands for and represents “Christian” values is easy. Although that is done so often there is a risk of a certain amount of ridicule–sounding brass and tinkling cymbals without love or mercy.

Most of your readers know the song “Jesus Loves the Little Children”–it has such a happy lilt. I am glad to know people are actively helping these unfortunate children, most of whom are victims of some really horrible people, without condemning them. Sometimes being a Christian or, simply a moral person, is not just inconvenient–it takes courage.

A frequent circumstance has been that many of these children are runaways and do not show up as victims of kidnappers–even though that is what they have become. They show up cold and hungry in the city and a kindly stranger takes them in by offering shelter and food. Then he turns on them and they are forced into the sex trade. I imagine they get no more “reward” than the shelter and food and, maybe, clothing (sex slavery) in return for the desecration of their immature bodies by sexual predators. .

I note Sen. Unterman is from Buford. Population demographics in Georgia have changed over the past quarter century. Some of these pimps might be more vicious in the exercise of their control over these children and more easily move them from state to state..

One question for anyone opposing legislation to help these children–What if it were your child?

Whatever, Jesus did teach that blind obedience to the law (i.e. the Law of Moses) and strict adherence to religious rules for the sake of purity are meaningless motions when unaccompanied by merciful actions toward the needy–see the Good Samaritan among other parables.

Good for you Senator. I wish I could vote for you.

CJ

February 6th, 2010
12:44 pm

Sage wrote, “If you really want to help cut the problem of child prostitutes, you need to recognize that a lot of these kids don’t want help and think they are grown and can make their own decisions…If you really want to curb child prostitution, you need to give the child prostitutes two options: Help or Jail.”

Okay, try to follow me here. When Sage writes that a lot of these kids think they “can make their own decisions,” he seems to imply that, in fact, they cannot make their own decisions. If that’s his (or her) implication, then I agree.

However, Sage continues by stating that children should be given two options, help or jail–implying that children can make their own decisions. If that’s his implication, then I disagree.

The bottom line is that Sage’s first statement seems to contradict his second. In fact, children below the age of 16 are, in most instances, not fully formed and should not be given a choice, help or jail. The adults should decide, and if this legislation becomes law, the adults would have made the right choice.

@@

February 6th, 2010
12:53 pm

Rightwing Troll:

I don’t know how you came up with my protestations against NOW as an attack on fathers. NOW is leading the women’s movement and unfortunately you Dads aren’t important in their eyes.

Divorce? I knew a couple where the husband was the most devoted husband any woman could ask for. She divorced him because their air-conditioner broke and he didn’t have the resources to fix it in a timely manner. She’s been married five times since. Worked diligently to turn the child against her father even though he stayed current on his support.

She succeeded. The daughter has been married three times with two children, halved between…

I was simply pointing to where the root of the problem lies. Get a vasectomy, wear a condom, join the priesthood, reconnect with Rosey. Grow up!

@@

February 6th, 2010
12:55 pm

Rightwing:

And just so you know…the wife in the relationship I mentioned came from a fatherless home.

PJ

February 6th, 2010
1:43 pm

This is a child protection law and should absolutely be passed without delay. Sen. Unterman has fought long & hard on this issue. This is not something that should be up for debate – we should want to protect these children who have done nothing to put themselves in these circumstances.

CJ

February 6th, 2010
2:07 pm

FYI, here is the response to my e-mail from my state representative, Rich Golick:

Thank you for your message. When SB 304 passes the Senate it will be assigned to the House Judiciary Committee (Non-Civil), which I Chair. I can assure you that it will receive every consideration.

Thanks again,

Rich

Sage

February 6th, 2010
2:18 pm

CJ, it’s easy for people like you to be critical but offer no solutions.

The fact is, most of the people here have no experience dealing with this problem. I do. Most of the people here are being very vocal with their uniformed opinions.

You are all very naive if you think you’re going to find some runaway who has resorted to being a child prostitute and just send them home and tell them they need counseling and everything is just going to work itself out. If getting the kids into therapy and counseling and getting that counseling to work was that easy, they probably wouldn’t have ended up as runaways in the first place! If you find a child prostitute, and send them home and tell their parents they need the therapy, in the REAL world, that runaway is just going to end up running away AGAIN! The cops are just going to keep finding them prostituting, and bringing them home to mommy and daddy because there is no reason for them, in their minds, to go to therapy! They don’t think what they are doing is wrong!

It’s easy to sit back and say, “Oh, don’t punish them because they are victims” but no one is really offering a solution that will actually work in the real world.

It’s really sad how some people don’t have a clue what they are talking about, but have very vocal opinions.

I’m all for getting these kids into therapy and setting them straight, but none of you have expereince dealing with kids in this situation, so you don’t have a clue how to deal with them or what they’re going to do!

Sorry, I’d rather have a kid in juvi than on the street prostituting themselves. I’d rather have them in therapy than juvi!

You can’t just find these kids, cut them loose to their parents, and expect them to not runaway again. You’re naive and crazy!

tscali

February 6th, 2010
3:19 pm

sage is spot on. the girls are running away from something. figure out what that something is before sending them back to what leftists call therapy. LOL given the track record of dfacs, i seriously doubt there will be a worthwhile solution.

Sage

February 6th, 2010
4:23 pm

I DO view these girls as victims, but all of of naive people don’t understand the nature of the problem, which is why they are suggesting decriminalizing underage prostitution. They don’t understand that these girls have serious problems and don’t see a problem with what they are doing! It takes the criminal justice system to FORCE these girls into a probationary program where they get the help they need, then their record is wiped clean.

TnGelding

February 6th, 2010
6:49 pm

Squared Circle

February 6th, 2010
10:10 am

Can you believe 13 and 14? No law is going to change the attraction some men have for very young women. And like you say, it wasn’t that long ago that it was accepted, even encouraged in some quarters.

Michael H. Smith

February 6th, 2010
8:09 pm

Sage

February 6th, 2010
2:18 pm

If getting the kids into therapy and counseling and getting that counseling to work was that easy, they probably wouldn’t have ended up as runaways in the first place!

This is where a compromise that strikes the right balance between justice and leniency of the law can be reached to bring the parties and their differences together in reaching an amicable agreement. Getting the kids into therapy and counseling is easy. Not cheap but easy nonetheless. First offense they are put into “protective custody” required to under go therapy and counseling before they can be released. Getting them to choose the desired results of forever turning away from prostitution is up to the child, that part is not so easy. Then again consider the remaining options, none of which are easy or desirable in reality: In jail locked up in a prison behind bars or in prostitution locked up in the prison of the sex trade.

Yes, this is asking a child to make adult decisions but let’s be honest: These children lost the innocence of childhood long ago when as victims they were enticed, or compelled, or forced, to enter the adult world and no power on this earth can walk that entry back or walk them back to their childhood lost.

After a first offender is put into “protective custody” and has under gone therapy and counseling they should be very well informed by the court before they’re released that they are receiving an opportunity for another chance in life, don’t throw it away, don’t let others down who believed in their goodness and worth as a person by giving up on themselves in returning to prostitution. Second offense, put them in cuffs and off to jail they go, like any other prostitute.

After a first offender is put into “protective custody” and have under gone therapy and counseling they should be very well informed by the court before they’re released that they are receiving an opportunity for another chance in life, don’t throw it away, don’t let others down who believed in their goodness and worth as a person by giving up on themselves in returning to prostitution. Second offense, put them in cuffs and off to jail they go.

Logic

February 6th, 2010
8:17 pm

It is nice to see some AJC writers have brain….too bad Cynthia doesn’t.

Michael H. Smith

February 6th, 2010
8:19 pm

Sorry for the repeat added at the end. I actually tried to edit something for a change. Best to stick to the usual blatant careless errors. :)

SKYISFALLING

February 6th, 2010
10:24 pm

Wow is me and all of us. Another “sky is falling” issue for the rightists. Guns for the pulpit, child sex slaves, fear of computer chips implanted on the body. What non-issues to conjure up next to avoid the important issues?
Children who never grew up pretending to be legislators. Just pathic.

Gerald West

February 7th, 2010
6:31 am

Good article, Kyle!

What the heck is a “social conservative”? Is that some hypocrite who believes government should regulate the pregnancy of women, the palliative care of the dying, and the love life of everybody, but doesn’t want to pay any taxes for the economic benefit of anybody, including himself.?

Do you get infuriated at hearing about all the laws that need repealing or changing? Why were such silly things enacted in the first place? It seem jerks have been sitting in legislatures and congresses for 200 years crafting laws to regulate the general populace while leaving loopholes for themselves. And, they never clean up after themselves: the legal bookshelves are groaning under their handiwork.

Actually, most of the legislation is unnecessary. Under English common law, which we follow, judicial precedence over time builds up just and wise civil and criminal codes from findings in specific cases involving real people.

The legislation crafted by our elected politicians just disrupts the common law process and perverts law and order.

Maybe we should start over by throwing the bums out and burning the law books!

TnGelding

February 7th, 2010
6:48 am

Michael H. Smith

February 6th, 2010
8:19 pm

Just shows you are human.

Michael H. Smith

February 7th, 2010
10:08 am

TnGelding

February 7th, 2010
6:48 am

Its terminal too, I fear.

Gerald West

February 7th, 2010
6:31 am

Strange… Applaud the article by dissecting the virtues of its bases?

What the heck is a “social conservative” and “social values”? What the heck is a “social liberal” and “social justice”?

One and the same from of a different prospective. Both are represented by the comments on this blog including a sensible center point of view concerning the subject at hand that is as old as the human race itself, prostitution. When it involves children the rules of legal-illegal turn the arguments to compassion from all parties concerned who claim only to seek the good and do the right thing: The social conservatives, social centrists-moderates and the social liberals. Whether it is called social values, social fabric or social justice.

Add the element of human bondage, forced servitude, slavery into the mix and this becomes the thing that has divided nations. So it is understandable why more heat than light is generated when such public discourse emerges front and center to question our values, our fabric, our social justice.

We don’t like having our our values, our fabric, our social justice being held to account, do we? It uncovers a little too much of our flawed humanity. Its hypocrisy, paradox and down right failures.

A very chaotic mess we humans. Perhaps is this what turns us to religions to governments to laws to bums for legislation? For the earliest of recorded history points out mankind’s great fear of chaos.

All sounds like a load of hooey? Then image if there were no laws, live and let die, chaos was the only rule over to thy own-self be true that was obeyed? Perfect liberty given to totally depraved terminally flawed humans?

Mr. West, maybe if we did start over by throwing the bums out and burning the law books, would we have any different results, keeping in mind Einstein’s definition of insanity, with only a new bunch of bums selected from an entire race of the terminally flawed?

Now that the soapbox is crumbling, the embellishments all exhaustively bloviated turning to the divine with one thought in mind to reach a resolve: Execute no judgment before a remedy of redemption has been supplied.

After all, Mr. Gelding, we are all terminally human, I fear.

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