If this happens, score one for Obama

The president said today in Seoul that he wants Congress to ratify a free-trade agreement (FTA) with South Korea, preferably by next year. If this happens, it would be a big win for American industry: The U.S. Chamber of Commerce says it’s worth $35 billion in American exports.

It would also be the first significant foreign-policy win for President Obama — if (and that’s a big “if”) he can get Democrats in Congress to go along with it.

Congress has been skeptical of trade deals since Democrats took over in 2007, the continuation of a big about-face on trade by the party. From John F. Kennedy to Bill Clinton, postwar American presidents (and Congresses, since Democrats ruled Capitol Hill for most of those years) pushed the cause of free trade, to the benefit of Americans and others around the world. Over the last decade or so, however, labor unions and environmentalists have dulled Democrats’ free-trade instincts in the name of imposing their ideological preferences and protections on our trading partners. Another potentially significant FTA, with Colombia, remains in limbo for this reason.

Today, Democrats’ chief concern with a South Korea FTA is how it would affect the U.S. auto industry. Well, The Wall Street Journal reports today that our auto industry stands to gain as much as any sector of our economy — precisely because South Korea has until now protected its own auto industry fiercely. Now it is willing to let down some of those barriers, if Congress will only sign on the dotted line. Agricultural exports also figure to increase, which could be good for Georgia.

For once, I wish President Obama luck in twisting arms at the Capitol.

(See? I can give the guy credit when he deserves it!)

49 comments Add your comment

Chris Broe

November 19th, 2009
8:54 am

You can thank free trade for keeping inflation in check for an entire generation. Things are still cheap. Hell, we should let the Chinese sell us healthcare. Labor (during child-birth) is cheaper over there.

Shawny

November 19th, 2009
9:06 am

That would be good. We are already buying their cars and phones. We need them to buy some of our stuff.

dewstarpath

November 19th, 2009
9:12 am

- I agree. This would be a big victory for balancing the
trade deficit with foreign manufacturers.

Brand

November 19th, 2009
9:38 am

If this agreement cuts the labor unions’ and environmentalists’ umbilical cord to the dems, it’ll be the best thing that has happened in decades. The only late-term abortion I would be willing to support. Hopefully the extreme left in Washington will die with them.

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
9:50 am

Chris Broe, yeah true, but the Chinese would want to kill all the baby girls. That’s how they roll in egg roll land.

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
10:02 am

MLK would have been ashamed of this racist tool.

Jesse Jackson: ‘You can’t vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man’

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/68451-jackson-you-cant-vote-against-healthcare-and-call-yourself-a-black-man

Joan

November 19th, 2009
10:42 am

The Democrats are not likely to do anything that would encourage capitalistic growth. It would be alien to them to do that. They want to destroy our manufacturing capabilities, put everybody on welfare, but forget that somebody still has to be making money in order to pay taxes to supports the Democratic constituency. About Jesse Jackson’s comment–well, you know he would like to see blacks continue to be “downtrodden” and on welfare. If blacks became independent, individualistic, and hardworking, the Jesse Jacksons of the world would lose the income they make from running around whining and moaning.

StJ

November 19th, 2009
10:53 am

This would be great, [IF] the Koreans uphold their end of the deal.

Rev Al Sharptongue

November 19th, 2009
10:53 am

Joan I am a hardworking blackman like most of my brethern. I am also independent, please stop your small town right wing stereotypes.

Blacks are more compassionate than whites thats why we want healthcare for all as wll as stem cell research. whites only want to help other whites they find fault with all other races. they make other races seem unworthy of help or compassion.

hence the sterotypes that Blacks are lazy and not independent, etc.

Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 19th, 2009
10:54 am

David Axelfraud
November 19th, 2009
9:50 am

Chris Broe, yeah true, but the Chinese would want to kill all the baby girls. That’s how they roll in egg roll land.

What a walking, talking inanity you are! Your bigoted chauvinism is as disgusting as everything else about you! In your next post, you have the unmitigated gall and runaway temerity to castigate Jesse Jackson as exactly what you revealed yourself to be one post prior. You even bring Martin Luther King into it by profferring that he would be ashamed of Jackson. You know nothing of Martin Luther King Junior you twit. Martin stood up for those who were at the mercy of this society and he demanded that they be treated as equal human beings. He would absolutely be in favor of good, affordable health care for all Americans. Jesse Jackson was one of Martin’s close associates and he knows a lot more about how Martin would feel than you ever could. Shut up and sit down!

jt

November 19th, 2009
11:21 am

“The president said today in Seoul that he wants Congress to ratify a free-trade agreement (FTA) with South Korea,”

There is nothing FREE about any trade agreement when Congress is involved.

I could trade with South Korea before this “free-trade” agreement, and I will continue to do so IF I want to, after.

American consumers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
hold on to your wallets.

Whassa Matta U

November 19th, 2009
11:27 am

Algonquin J. Calhoun: Addressing the non-MLK related portions of the post, it was ill stated, no doubt, but you’ve never heard of China’s “One Child” policy?

Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 19th, 2009
12:08 pm

Of course, I’ve heard of the ‘one child policy.’ It’s been in effect twenty-five years now and is credited with slowing the population growth by three hundred million. The idea of limiting the size of families is, I think, a good one for a country already brimming with people. With the increasing economic clout of China, the populace of that nation, to a large extent, has become upwardly mobile. Like most people on the rise, the market for material possessions has increased dramatically. Automobiles are being purchased in China in unprecedented numbers and those cars run on gasoline. Their demand lessens our available supply and drives the price up. Also, many an American company has turned it’s back on the American worker and moved operations to China where labor is just slightly above the level of slave. Check out a movie called, ‘The High Cost of Low Prices.’ It’s about people in China who work at producing items for Walmart. The huge population of China is responsible, in great part, for the presence of parasites such as Walmart in China. I know that one aspect of the policy, allegedly, is that female babies have been killed, abortions and sterilizations forced upon women. Certainly, I do not support any of that. China is not alone in its cruel insensitivity. Many racists in this country have called for forced sterilization of people on welfare. “People on welfare,” should be understood as a euphemism for black people.

The American People

November 19th, 2009
12:14 pm

“Under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” -President Obama. How about his buddies, the SEIU who as he says has worked with all his life beating up Ken Hamidi at a SEIU 1000 meeting for protesting the corruption within this organization. 2 down for Obama, Change in 2010 and 2012, Change we can look forward too.

John P. Holdren, Science Czar

November 19th, 2009
12:34 pm

Who are you calling a racist, Algonquin?

Holdren’s claim that he “never has been an advocate for policies of forced sterilization,” alongside the Ehrlich’s claim that “formulations” in the Ecoscience textbook have been misrepresented as endorsements, is provably an outright lie.

Phrases such as “it has been concluded” are used in the book alongside proposals for forced abortion, such as the passage on page 837 which reads, “Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.”

We are on the same side, comrade. Hold your tongue.

Kyle's a Cherry Picker

November 19th, 2009
12:38 pm

Hi Kyle,

So can you elaborate a little on why you think this would be a good thing, and why those who oppose it think it’s bad?

What exactly would happen?

Thks

Corey

November 19th, 2009
12:40 pm

Joan, isn’t Bill Clinton a Democrat. Remember the sizzling nineties? The longest peace time economic expansion ever.

Corey

November 19th, 2009
12:42 pm

Joan, which blacks? All blacks? Are just the one you see on the news being hauled off to jail. Most blacks are independent, self-supporting individuals. Stop generalizing. That’s like saying if white men would leave children alone their would be no child molesters.

JF McNamara

November 19th, 2009
12:44 pm

We almost have to do it since exports are the only thing buoying our economy. Our companies aren’t selling anything to the tapped out American consumer, so the only hope we have of recovery is the weak dollar / export option. I think that everybody in Congress understands that.

Hopefully this model holds up long enough for America to recover. If not, we’re going to see a lot more “Out of Business” signs and a much, much lower stock market.

Reality

November 19th, 2009
12:50 pm

Ever visited Appalachia Joan, if and when you do just substitue the poorly educated, meth mouth, Mountain Dew drinking hillbillies with inner city blacks of equal status. No Joan, it should not make you ashamed to be white.

dewstarpath

November 19th, 2009
1:30 pm

Axelfraud – I’m pretty sure they have egg rolls
in Japan and Hong Kong, too.

dewstarpath

November 19th, 2009
1:32 pm

- I also agree with Corey. Stereotyping and
generalizing is not only wrong, it’s bad for
business.

Chris Broe

November 19th, 2009
2:17 pm

I have to apologize to Kyle Wingfield for claiming (8:54am) to know about the cost of labor (during birth) in China. The truth is that I dont know nuthin’ ’bout birthin’ no babies.

I don’t know why I told such a lie.

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
2:59 pm

Algonquin J. Calhoun, nice, once again you call me out for something and then turn around and do the exact same thing. Your hypocrisy is hilarious. Do you like stalking me or something? Because every single day you call me names yet try to play the high and mighty card.

Go sell stupid somewhere else.

John

November 19th, 2009
3:00 pm

Kyle, did you not get the official GOP memo? The only thing you are supposed to give Obama credit for is the result of Bush’s last 8 years. Just kidding. LOL

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
3:00 pm

dewstarpath, egg roll was not a racist comment. They make egg rolls in China. If a native Chinese man called America, hamburger land, would that be racist? Nope. Because we make hamburgers.

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
3:02 pm

Calhoun writes: Jesse Jackson was one of Martin’s close associates and he knows a lot more about how Martin would feel than you ever could. Shut up and sit down!

The only thing Jesse knows how to do is exploit poor black people and make money off of them. The only thing Jesse ever did with MLK was stand over his dead body in Memphis for a photo opp.

Again, go sell stupid somewhere else.

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
3:04 pm

Kyle Wingfield, I am getting really tired of Calhoun constantly calling me names. Instead of debating or discussing a topic she calls me names. Did you not tell us all to stop name calling?

Bottom line: Calhoun needs to mind her manners.

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
3:06 pm

Corey, I’ll always remember the 90s as the time we were hit by Islamic radicals 4 times. I will also remember how Billy cheated on his wife with a teenager.

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
3:13 pm

Calhoun writes: Many racists in this country have called for forced sterilization of people on welfare. “People on welfare,” should be understood as a euphemism for black people.

Yep, Calhoun, you nailed it. His name is Ezekiel Emanuel. Rahm Emanuel’s brother. He called for blacks to be sterilized in the 1970s through water contamination. It is documented fact.

You should really read up on the people you worship. Obama and the democrats are not friends of the black community. The black community has been in shambles for over 40 years. Kept in ghettos and forced to vote for people who keep them poor. You can’t blame white people on that one.

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
3:15 pm

Obama’s mad science adviser

Compulsory abortion and sterilization aren’t youthful indiscretions

When it comes to having past views that should frighten every American citizen, Ezekiel Emanuel (see above editorial) has nothing on the president’s “chief science adviser,” John P. Holdren. The combination of Mr. Holdren with Dr. Emanuel should make the public seriously concerned with this administration’s moral compass concerning care for the old and weak.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/16/obamas-mad-science-adviser/

Kyle Wingfield

November 19th, 2009
3:49 pm

Cherry Picker: The FTA would do too much to describe well here, but there’s a good summary if you follow the second link in my original post…or just click here: http://www.ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/korus-fta

Whassa Matta U

November 19th, 2009
3:55 pm

‘Quin: Papa Stalin had some farm reform policies he tried to sell as effective, too. For 25 years we’ve been hearing about forced abortions with witnesses credible enough to go beyond allegation. I know one victim of the forced medical battery policy. Having also been to the place, I have seen how much unemployment is hidden there. Example, one man holds the stick to measure the height of the hedge; one lops, one picks up the branches. Voila, no unemployment here. It’s no Utopian dream (and my lungs felt like they could get 50 years of LA smog in the course of two years in Beijing). Other areas, though, awesome to behold. If you haven’t made it, worth the trip. Cheers.

John

November 19th, 2009
3:56 pm

Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 19th, 2009
5:36 pm

What’s the matter Kyle, couldn’t take the comment about the lying liar?

Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 19th, 2009
5:44 pm

These demonizing,dehumanizing, propagandist lies about Zeke Emanuel, and others, are egregious beyond belief and offensively false but, then again, everything this lady writes is!

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
6:12 pm

Algonquin J. Calhoun, so, since you say they are lies they must be lies? Your logic is so backwards ma’am. I can find article after article to support these claims. The liberal mind is so messed up.

Bottom line: Prove that I lied. Prove that he never said these things. You always seem to call people names and liars yet you never do throw out any proof. You’re what most people call, clinically insane.

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
6:14 pm

Algonquin J. Calhoun has never once provided a rebuttal to any of my claims. She just name calls.

Poor whittle Calhoun. By the way, I laugh every time you call me a name. It’s more proof of how pathetic you really are. If you want to debate fine. If not, please quit calling me names and trying to slander me.

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
6:18 pm

A bioethicist, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel has written extensively about who should get medical care, who should decide, and whose life is worth saving. Dr. Emanuel is part of a school of thought that redefines a physician’s duty, insisting that it includes working for the greater good of society instead of focusing only on a patient’s needs. Many physicians find that view dangerous, and most Americans are likely to agree.

Dr. Emanuel, brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of the Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research. He clearly will play a role guiding the White House’s health initiative.

In Dr. Emanuel’s own words:

“Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality of care are merely ‘lipstick’ cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change.” Feb. 27, 2008, issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA)

“Medical school education and post graduate education emphasize thoroughness,” he writes. “This culture is further reinforced by a unique understanding of professional obligations, specifically the Hippocratic Oath’s admonition to ‘use my power to help the sick to the best of my ability and judgment’ as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of cost or effect on others.” In the June 18, 2008, issue of JAMA

“Patients were to receive whatever services they needed, regardless of its cost. Reasoning based on cost has been strenuously resisted; it violated the Hippocratic Oath, was associated with rationing, and derided as putting a price on life. . . . Indeed, many physicians were willing to lie to get patients what they needed from insurance companies that were trying to hold down costs.” JAMA, May 16, 2007

“to provide socially sustainable, cost-effective care.” One sign of progress he sees: “the progression in end-of-life care mentality from ‘do everything’ to more palliative care shows that change in physician norms and practices is possible.” JAMA, June 18, 2008

“In the next decade every country will face very hard choices about how to allocate scarce medical resources. There is no consensus about what substantive principles should be used to establish priorities for allocations.” New England Journal of Medicine, Sept. 19, 2002

“You can’t avoid these questions. We had a big controversy in the United States when there was a limited number of dialysis machines. In Seattle, they appointed what they called a ‘God committee’ to choose who should get it, and that committee was eventually abandoned. Society ended up paying the whole bill for dialysis instead of having people make those decisions.” August 16, 2009 Washington Post interview.

Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 19th, 2009
6:57 pm

Miss Fraud, You are a complete simpleton who tries to influence by inflection and innuendo. The very quotes you cut and paste disprove your insipid allegations. You are trying to make yourself into a silk purse by virtue of your incessant, malicious postings but you’re still just a sow’s ear. Actually, you may be closer to the ham than the ear.

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
7:00 pm

Algonquin J. Calhoun, you’re a little girl in need of attention.

Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 19th, 2009
7:16 pm

Algonquin J. Calhoun, you’re a little girl in need of attention.

Your verbal detonations are nothing more than the dogmatic, fabricated flatulence of a sick lying liar!

Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 19th, 2009
7:18 pm

I have to get off now sissy boy, I have a life and it’s obvious you don’t. Keep selling that crack and, since you’ve cornered the market on stupid, seel that too!

David Axelfraud

November 19th, 2009
8:00 pm

Algonquin J. Calhoun, you still can’t tell me what I lied about. You are a sad sad little girl.

By the way, please continue to call me names. It’s all you have sad little girl. Boo hoo…….

The Beagle

November 20th, 2009
12:35 am

The American people have been lied to.

When China was granted MFN status back in 2000, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable and all the various corporate lobbyist stooges claimed it would create millions of good-paying jobs here in the U.S. The result has been the complete opposite: the U.S. manufacturing sector has been hollowed-out; entire manufacturing states like Michigan, Ohio, S.C. etc. have been decimated by job losses. Meanwhile, the trade deficit with China has grown to over $260 billion, and China still has not dropped its tariff barriers of entry to our goods.

If reduced steel tariffs were used to make the blades of some guillotines, which would then be wheeled over to Wall St. (just for starters), then yes, I will agree to some more cheap imports.

dewstarpath

November 20th, 2009
6:28 am

- Axelfraud –
I didn’t mention racism. The comment wasn’t racist,
it was stupid. As well as the followup answer.

dewstarpath

November 20th, 2009
8:10 am

- Not to mention the battle between Axelfraud
and AJC (Calhoun).

Silent Majority

November 20th, 2009
2:32 pm

I don’t think you should have forced sterilization of people on welfare, but I do thing you should have drug testing on these people regardless of what color they are.

Intown Lib

November 20th, 2009
3:08 pm

Free Trade is generally a good thing. But more needs to be done to create a high floor for environmental and labor standards. While lefties understand the benefits of free trade — including less war as the globe becomes more economically interdependent, the downside is to give up your own nation’s “provincial” environmental gains and labor benefits lest you slide into economic oblivian. Many would rather not have to make that choice. It’s a tough thing to balance.