On Palin and ‘Going Rogue’

A former editor of mine, Melanie Kirkpatrick, reviews Sarah Palin’s “Going Rogue” here. Her conclusion is about what I had expected, not having read the book yet myself: It’s a story about Palin’s life and the 2008 campaign that is unlikely to change many minds about the former Alaska governor.

I was told before the reviews started trickling out, by someone who would know, that Palin’s book would contain mostly predictable content — but also some controversial material that would make news for a couple of weeks. So far, I haven’t seen any evidence of that in the reviews I’ve read.

My guess is that few people are going to change their opinions of Palin, especially in a positive sense, unless she takes the time to build a substantial record that can’t be ignored. (If Hillary Clinton is any indication, the U.S. Senate is not the place to do that.)

Am I right? What would it take for you Palin critics out there to change your minds about her? How would you Palin supporters out there make your case? And keep it clean, folks.

131 comments Add your comment

Jefferson

November 16th, 2009
11:20 am

Kyle – Honestly, do you want her to be the President. On her own merit, no comparisons. Wait, you journalists my bond together.

She just ain’t smart enough.

Kyle Wingfield

November 16th, 2009
11:28 am

Right now, Jefferson? No.

Am I willing to revisit that question down the road if she builds a substantial record on the issues that got her elected in Alaska, like energy and government corruption, as well as the ones on which she’s weaker today? Sure.

Joan

November 16th, 2009
11:32 am

Unfortunately Sarah Palin has become a lightening rod for ridicule–deserved or not. She is a distraction, and a liability to any Republican roster of potential candidates for the Presidency. If Alaska wants to make her a senator, great, and then maybe she can prove herself. But she will never get the free ride that Obama has gotten. We need to find competent, considerate and intelligent candidates who can talk to the majority of the people and isn’t bound by the dogma that has shot the Republican party in the foot to date–namely conservatism on fiscal issues, and fascism on social issues.

Alton E. Drew

November 16th, 2009
11:40 am

When John Kennedy wrote Profiles in Courage, we got a sense of a man who understood what it took for a leader to make tough decisions; decisions that go against the grain and those decisions may impact policy. While it may have given people insights into how he apporached governing, the book was not about him. Today’s politicians write a book that glorifies personal celebrity without any insight into how their “philosophy” would impact policy. They play the personality game and Americans, so caught up in the mindset of reality TV, buy into it. In short, she’s a good looking woman who doesn’t relate to 60-80% of America.

Kyle Wingfield

November 16th, 2009
11:57 am

Alton E. Drew: I agree with you about political books these days. And if by “relate” you mean that perhaps 60 percent of Americans would not today consider voting for her (80 percent is probably too high), you may be right. But I would argue that the main thing Palin has going for her is that she does relate to lots of Americans — which is why she gave the McCain campaign a bump when she was added to the ticket. Her “hockey mom” persona probably relates better to more Americans than President Obama’s price-of-arugula-at-Whole-Foods or clinging-to-guns-and-religion comments. (Not that I want to turn this into an Obama discussion.)

The question is what she offers beyond that, and I think that’s where she has the most work to do if she’s going to be a national candidate again.

booger

November 16th, 2009
12:10 pm

I think Palin’s future should be as a conservative at large. She can never be president because of the slam job by the media, and she is too conservative to be a Republican, but as a conservative, she is a great asset. She would be very good in the Senate as an independant I think. A bit of counterbalance to the Frank, Dodd, and Pelosi.

Davo

November 16th, 2009
12:11 pm

Here’s the thing with Sarah; there’s nothing exceptional about her. Maybe that’s a gift for people like Kyle as they can treat her as a blank slate to draw their own agendas on. Somehow the fact that she re-nigged on her own state becomes back-burner when, in fact, compared to the rest of her ‘accomplishments’ that episode is the most pertainent. I wonder how far true conservatives will allow the GOP to go in supporting her.

jconservative

November 16th, 2009
12:11 pm

Sarah Palin? She will make a ton of money on this book & anything else she does in the “political entertainment” business.

Kyle, I will try to answer your question, what would it take for me to change my mind about her viability as a presidential candidate?

My biggest problem with Palin is a moral judgement by me. Her high school daughter ends up pregnant & Palin makes an international celebrity out of that pregnant daughter just so she could, maybe, get a promotion at work, from Gov to VP. I say she sold out her daughter.
All you people with daughters, is that what you would do under similar circumstances? All you people who have had daughters with the same circumstances, did you call a news conference & get her on the Channel 5 6:00 o’clock news? No you did not! This puts Palin real high on my list of people in whom I have no respect.

I doubt if my opinion can be changed. But I am notorious in my crowd for being open minded. Time will tell.

Kyle Wingfield

November 16th, 2009
12:20 pm

Davo, I have a hard time understanding how you’ve drawn me into the Palin fan club based on what I’ve written here today or in the past. Certainly her resignation as governor is one prime reason she’d have to build a substantial record in the future to have real political credibility.

But the blank slate thing is interesting, given that that’s exactly what Obama has said about himself. Is that all politicians are today? Blank slates to which people subscribe until they’ve seen enough real performance to make them move on to someone else?

I’m not sure how many cases that really applies to…but if true it would explain some of the trouble we’ve gotten in thanks to pols of all political persuasions.

Jefferson

November 16th, 2009
12:21 pm

Thanks for the response. What got me about her was when asked about supreme court decisions she disagreed with (a mean media question), her answer was “lots of them”. Roe v. Wade for a “conservative” should have blurted out. I had a prof that would circle answers like that (in red) and intial them “BS”. With her it reminds me of an Andy Griffith show when Aunt Bee was going to run for mayor. She was being popular instead of thinking and going against the public sentiment for the better of the town and spending of the taxpayer’s money.

By the same token, comparing her to others already in government she fits right in.

Churchill's MOM

November 16th, 2009
12:36 pm

Guess what I’ll be doing today at 4:00.

**Handel 2010*** Palin Mccain 212***

Middle-of-the-road

November 16th, 2009
12:43 pm

Kyle, I supported McCain when he ran against George W the first time. I had high hopes that he’d make it all the way to the White House – right up until the point where he nominated Sarah Palin. Poor Judgement. Rush Limbaugh wanted Sarah and John responded in order to solify his base. He didn’t need to solify his base – his based wasn’t going to vote for Obama. He should have gone towards the middle. Sarah – as a woman – embarrasses me. As a mother, she horrifies me. As a potential leader of the nation – dealing with real ecnomic and military issues on the national and international front – she terrifies me. There are more qualified candidates out there. We can only pray they come foward in 2011 and start to prepare for 2012. Sarah is an entertainer like Rush Limbaugh – all smoke and mirrors. I won’t by her book because I bet it is full of excuses.

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
12:52 pm

There are about 5 potential conservative candidates out there other than Palin. I think Palin would be great for a VP candidate running with someone like Jindal or Daniels. Palin can do whatever she wants because she can draw in huge crowds of people just like Obama did a year ago.

Bottom line: By 2012 the USA will be BEGGING for change we can believe in.

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
12:57 pm

Kyle Wingfield, it does not matter if Palin runs for president in 2012. She can do whatever she wants. She will sell millions of books and draw support for conservative candidates. People who call her a joke etc are doing this at their own risk. Obama is in serious trouble as are all the democrats. Name calling etc.. is only going to get them in further hot water.

Bottom line: Obama Hussein is a ridiculous joke that makes Jimmy Carter look competent.

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
12:58 pm

jconservative, I watched Palin from day one. I don’t remember her EVER making a celebrity out of her daughter. She cleared the air about it when PMSNBC and other state controlled media outlets ran up to Alaska to go through her garbage cans.

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
1:00 pm

Kyle, let me ask you a question. Who do you consider a great candidate for 2012?

The reason I ask is that armchair quarterbacks always sit around nitpicking this and that yet they can never actually tell any of us WHO they would support.

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
1:05 pm

Middle-of-the-road, ever heard of spell check?

George

November 16th, 2009
1:13 pm

Kyle, you must have at least some capacity to estimate relative cognitive capacity. Palin made George W. look both well prepared and intelligent in contrast. As the sign by the two demoonstrators at the White House fence noted: McCain: “Women have not waited 232 years for Sarah Palin.”

Iread

November 16th, 2009
1:27 pm

The people who elect our presidents are not the people who cast votes based on ideology. Conservatives will vote for Palin, or whoever’s running on that side. Liberals will vote for Obama, or whoever’s running on that side. Presidential elections are determined by people who vote against people they don’t want and the primary factor in recent elections has been goofiness. Clinton was not goofy at all and ran against two goofy candidates. As incredible as it may seem,, George W. Bush was less goofy than Gore or Kerry. (Who can ever forget the salute and “Reporting for duty.” Goofy, goofy, goofy.) Obama may be a lot of things people don’t like, but he’s not goofy and McCain is. Palin? As goofy as it gets. All those winks, shout-outs, and hockey mom stuff. She is unelectable unless Obama decides not to run and Palin has the same incredible luck George Jr. had.

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
1:40 pm

Iread, please explain Reagan.

Joey

November 16th, 2009
1:41 pm

There is a significant difference between “selling one’s daughter” and “hiding the daughter in shame”. If the Palin’s had not openly acknowledge the pregnancy Democrats, the Media (both Left and Right Wings), and the Republican intelligencia would have had a much bigger feeding frenzy.

In my view it took real courage for the Palin’s to acknowledge the pregnancy and real courage for McCain to stick with Palin afterward.

Kyle Wingfield

November 16th, 2009
1:48 pm

Axelfraud: I am waiting to see who will be in the ring in 2012 besides the leftovers from 2008. I am intrigued by Mitch Daniels of Indiana, although I don’t know much about him besides his budget-balancing success.

I know we won’t see Democratic candidates before 2016, but on that side I would be similarly intrigued by Phil Bredesen of Tennessee. (Intrigued by a Democrat? Horror! I know!)

Real American

November 16th, 2009
2:01 pm

Wow….Sarah is not an intellect by any stretch of the imagination. She is a hick and to suggest that she could actually hold any national office is patently absurd. Geez…what a message to send the children, don’t study, just get by on your “privilege” and call it a day.

Iread

November 16th, 2009
2:06 pm

Axelfraud: You have to be kidding? Reagan was the Gipper. the Twenty-Mule team guy on the western desert. He was not goofy — compared to Jimmy Carter? the crisis in confidence? (A speech I liked, but was deemed very, very goofy.) and then Mondale? Reagan supports the point.

President OBAMA

November 16th, 2009
2:12 pm

Kyle Wingfield is obsessed with me 8-) my name has been mentioned here more than the Palin lady. Heh…

Say What Say Huh?

November 16th, 2009
2:17 pm

“George W. Bush was less goofy than Gore or Kerry…”

SURELY you jest???

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
2:21 pm

Kyle Wingfield, yeah you will. Her name is Hillary. Expect her to show Obama up like Kennedy did with Carter.

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
2:22 pm

Iread, I was going off of your explanation of voters always voting for the opposition party etc…

william

November 16th, 2009
2:22 pm

Who can doubt the lies and personal attacks levied on Sara Palin by the weak minded liberals. They say she is not smart enough to be President! They elected Obama! That shows you how really ignorant the left have become. The liberal media attacked Palin every day and every way they could. It was just unblievable that journalism had sunk so low. I do not believe it will ever recover until they revamp their entire staffs. Only Fox reports and lets me decide. Cnn and the others shape the news to fit their agendas. That is a fact!
I eagerly await Sara Palin’s new faceoff with the liberal media. She will not be handicapped by liberal republican like McCain this time around. She will be conservative and she will be bold. “Geeeezzzz I get a funny feeling running down my legs”

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
2:23 pm

Say What Say Huh?, Kerry is and was a moron. Plain and simple. The guy is stoooooooooooooopid!

Gore is a self righteous Vandy flunk out.

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
2:24 pm

william, yeah, the high and mighty one, Obama, is too smart for us feeble minded people to understand. The guy is a walking talking nimrod.

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
2:27 pm

John Kerry 04- Is this where I can git me’z a huntin license?

-I’m thrilled to be here at Lambot Field!

Al Gore- I invented the internet. We’re all doomed in 5 years……………. quote from 2000.

Carrie

November 16th, 2009
2:34 pm

Am I the only one that still thinks Palin is as competent as any candidate we’ve fielded in the past fifty years? I think a Palin Administration would send the USA into the stratosphere based on her rogue nature of total independent and original thinking. No candidate has ever said, “you betcha”. Ever.

Furthermore, Palin wowed Oprah’s audience. Do you know how difficult that is? If Palin wanted, she could be a popular host of a news show like Oreilly.

If Palin were smart, She wouldn’t run for office again. She’s the best example of a total “Atlas Shrugged” philosophy that I can think of. If you remember, in the story, Atlas was asked to run for the presidency of the united states of america, and for his response, he merely shrugged, and flipped off the RNC representative. (and laughed).

I know I would vote for Palin, but I don’t believe that nuthin good will ever happen to me, so she probably won’t run. I’ll watch her news hour, though.

Palin ‘12: Hugs are better than shrugs. (or bugs).

or thugs.

or rugs.

or everything bad.

somewhereinga

November 16th, 2009
2:43 pm

William: That funny feeling running down your leg usually means your Depends is full.

somewhereinga

November 16th, 2009
2:46 pm

Carrie: Yes… You are the only one.

Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 16th, 2009
2:49 pm

Al Gore graduated cum laude from Harvard. John Kerry graduated from Yale. Both served in Vietnam in the American armed forces.

Kyle, why would anyone support a politician who quits office with eighteen months to go on a term of office? I know I wouldn’t! Just why did she quit? She cites investigations and politically motivated complaints but it looks to me as if it’s all about the money. The father of her daughter’s child says she and her husband talked openly about cashing in. That’s sure what it looks like. As for her abilities and intelligence, neither appears acute!

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
2:50 pm

Algonquin J. Calhoun, Gore failed out of Vanderbilt University. John Kerry shot himself to get out of Vietnam. Al Gore spent his “military career” admiring communism.

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
2:51 pm

The new wave of female firebrands striking fear into liberal America

Right-wing radicals are already pinning presidential ambitions on a mother-of-five from Minnesota who calls herself a ‘fool for Christ’ and condemns Obama as a socialist at the head of a gangster regime

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/15/michele-bachmann-president-sarah-palin

East Atlanta Native

November 16th, 2009
2:56 pm

Don’t know enough about her yet, but then not many of us knew anything about Obama either. And HE won! Just goes to show you that people un the U.S. do not tend to vote on issues, but on the party and/or emotions.

Middle-of-the-road

November 16th, 2009
2:56 pm

Hey, Axelfraud, good catch. I usually like to make one or two spelling errors just to see how careful you bloggers are when you read the blogs. I am always interested in people’s ideas and I hope to learn something from them. Are you paying attention to the big picture, the ideas that Kyle wanted to discuss or will you be petty and talk about typos. Guess we know in which group you belong? Now, go watch Pretty Palin on Oprah and Barbara’s shows. I am going back work. Enough diversions for the day.

David Axelfraud

November 16th, 2009
3:22 pm

Middle-of-the-road, huh, I don’t belong to any “group.” I just know how powerful Palin can be if she stays focused.

Ange

November 16th, 2009
3:32 pm

For me to change my mind about Sarah Palin it would simply demonstrating two things. Firstly, I would need her to demonstrate an understanding of foreign affairs. Secondly, she needs to demonstrate an ability to effectively respond to questions on hard-hitting topics.
Being a politician requires a deep and well-rounded understanding of the important issues and an ability to discuss them, if she cannot do that then I will continue not to take her seriously.

Rockerbabe

November 16th, 2009
3:39 pm

Mrs. Palin is just a star-struck political junkie, who has the energy and the termity to go out and promote herself as something she is not. A smart, truth-telling, thoughtful person with ideas that would benefit ALL Americans, not just the fortunate few.

She really isn’t a threat to anyone, except herself. The more she talks, the less sense she makes. Her railing against Senator McCain is a futile effort at the blame-game. Senator McCain is a trusted, strong, brave man, who took on a train he couldn’t stop. I wish he well in his future endeavors. Mrs. Palin, I would like for her to just go away.

jconservative

November 16th, 2009
3:52 pm

David Axelfraud
“jconservative, I watched Palin from day one. I don’t remember her EVER making a celebrity out of her daughter”

David she had her daughter up on the stage on day one. And for a month her daughter was on every stage. At the convention her daughter & her “husband to be” were sitting in front of the whole planet. The daughter was in every magazine in the country.

Palin made a lousy judgment call when McCain asked her to be the VP candidate. The correct response should have been “thank you for the honor, but at this time I must put family first”. But she did not, she put herself first.

What would you do David?

Real American

November 16th, 2009
3:53 pm

How many colleges did Palin attend again just to get a bachelor’s in journalism?

Road Scholar

November 16th, 2009
3:58 pm

Axlefraud: Who needs spell check when you spout the drivel you have been doing?

PS Reagan grew the size of the federal government and increased taxes. Is that what you wanted?

Linda

November 16th, 2009
3:59 pm

What a coincidence.

Palin’s daughter & Obama’s mother were both pregnant & unmarried, but O’s mother married his father, who was already married.

Palin & Obama both resigned, but Palin represented her city & her state longer than our pres. represented his state.

jconservative

November 16th, 2009
4:01 pm

“Al Gore- “I invented the internet”.”

Yeah, we all had a laugh on that line. But someone did not laugh – Google. Google hired Gore as a consultant, to be paid in stock. Assignment – we are here, where can we take this? When Gore left
he sold his Google stock for $165 Million. If you remember Google took off like a rocket.

As soon as he left Google, Steve Jobs called from Apple & wanted Gore on the Board. To my knowledge he is still on the Apple board.

Gore got the last laugh.

Linda

November 16th, 2009
4:02 pm

Do you know what time it is? She’s on right now!!!

Repukes and DummyCrats are ALL Scum

November 16th, 2009
4:06 pm

My Gawd Kyle, how far into the gutter do the Repukes have to reach to find a candidate? George the Chimp was bad enough, but Sarah the Idiot is a whole order of magnitude worse. I expect the Repukes to have the best and brightest candidate, not some ignorant, opinionated female of dubious morality, and proven genetic inferiority. Here interview on CBS told me all I need to know about her alleged intellect.