Tennessee gov: Health reform will cost states billions

Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen is a Democrat who has already called congressional health-reform efforts “the mother of all unfunded mandates.” Now he’s estimating that the Baucus bill could dump $3 billion in unfunded mandates on his state over a five-year period. Reports the Chattanooga Times Free Press:

“I’m glad they’re trying to do it without increasing the federal deficit, that certainly is important,” said Gov. Bredesen, a Democrat who has been critical of the plan’s impact on states. “But to turn around and increase the state deficits as the way to handle it that does not seem a very appropriate way to do that.”

The point is that Democrats’ plans will increase deficits, whether that happens at the federal or state level.

Bredesen has some experience with public options, as he has spent the last seven years trying to rein in Tennessee’s version of ObamaCare, TennCare. There’s a nice summary of the problems TennCare has faced — and its similarities and differences with federal health legislation — here.

Also, moderate Democrats are still holding their ground despite Maine Republican Olympia Snowe’s vote for the Baucus bill in committee.

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TaxPayer

October 15th, 2009
10:21 am

I hope you don’t mind a little off-topic (actually, on topic for an earlier thread) because here’s a little something to complement your “Inconvenient Admission” piece, Kyle. In case you happened to have overlooked it. Do you think that would be enough to open the door for some rational debate with folks like Inhofe.

Corrine Brown (D) FL

October 15th, 2009
10:32 am

Road Scholar

October 15th, 2009
10:47 am

Amazing! I asked Jay to wake Kyle up, and this article appears. Jay, you da man!

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 15th, 2009
10:55 am

Well, here people are fussing about a few signs and up in Washington they decided not to give me my Cost of Living raise on my SS. What kind of Commie country is this? I deserve that raise. I want that raise. You can’t hardly make it in a Free Market like we got without a raise. I paid into SS for years and years and I want my raise! It’s the least they could do for God-fearing, loyal, Conservative Americans like me.

Glad to see Bookman waked Wingfield up but he might as well not bother if he’s not going to write about this Injustice.

Have a good day everybody.

Kyle Wingfield

October 15th, 2009
11:15 am

TaxPayer: I’d prefer to stay on topic, but I also know that readers might not revisit a post from a couple of days ago. So…

The article, despite what the headline says, reports that some religious groups/people are worried about global warming and some others aren’t. It cites one comment that the pope made about environmental concerns (not, I’d point out, necessarily the same thing as global-warming concerns) without noting his much-reported skepticism about both the rush to judgment about global warming by some people and the ways they want to address the issue. For an example, see here: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/12/pope_benedict_calls_out_warmin.html

So we have an article that says some people think one thing, and some people think otherwise. I suppose that supports the idea that we need debate. And while I know where Inhofe stands on the issue, I’d argue that the impulse to “end the debate” comes vastly more from the alarmists, not the skeptics.

citizen

October 15th, 2009
11:26 am

I have a question for you legal minds. Amendment VI of the U.S. Constitution states, ‘In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right..to have the assistance of counsel for his defense’. We have an indigent defense council here in Georgia that serves the lower income population. However, if the defense is provided in this fiscal year and the defense attorney is not compensated within this fiscal year, then according to the Department of Audits, payment of bills from past fiscal years cannot be paid from current fiscal year funds.
My question, if a public option health care is passed, and the health care is provided in this fiscal year, but the bill doesn’t get processed until next year, will the government deny the payment on the above premise?
This will destroy our rural hospitals.

TaxPayer

October 15th, 2009
11:45 am

The article, despite what the headline says, reports that some religious groups/people are worried about global warming and some others aren’t.

Ya know, it’s funny but I think I know what you mean — about what one article says and all, despite what others might say. And I appreciate the link too. I’ll check it out. I hope that you’ll check out the links that I provided back on that dead thread as well.

As for TennCare, who do you suppose should pick up the tab for any health related problems that show up as a result of say, a massive coal ash flood. Is something like that a fed problem, state problem, a cost of cheap power problem?

@@

October 15th, 2009
1:40 pm

In a costly blow to the program, a federal court in 1996 prohibited Tennessee from reviewing the eligibility of enrollees. By 1998, enrollment had grown by 100,000, as employers moved employees into the TennCare system, which cost them less. “It was a gold plated plan and everything was covered,” Blackburn said. “You had people that would leave private insurance and go to the public plan because it was free or very low cost.”

Same thing happened in Hawaii, Kyle. The system, although well-intended was inundated with people who didn’t qualify. Paul robbing from Paul. Humankind hasn’t really evolved all that much.

I would go so far as to predict that people would actually relocate to get a government freebie from any state that was offering.

Animal migration…follow the food source.

Jefferson

October 15th, 2009
2:03 pm

All you have to do is raise taxes, or just have 1 insurance company. You do want a simple answer.

Chris Broe

October 15th, 2009
2:56 pm

Maybe national healthcare is a fantasy. I forgot, did Camelot’s citizens have a public option?

Fact: In Taiwan, they have healthcare (it’s 20 bucks a month). It’s very efficient. They eat correctly there, and thus they have little disease. They are very frugal with medical equipment too. (They use chopsticks for tongue depressors to save money.) They use turkey basters to inject swine flu vaccine in their children. Okay, so what if they feed the occassional ornery child to their swine on religious grounds. The Gods must be appeased, you know.

They spend only 1% of what the US spends per person on healthcare.

So….Eat correct, America. Healthcare will follow. What does that mean? It means no fast food. It means Scottish Oatmeal with fresh blueberries for breakfast. Period. It means raw broccoli for lunch with maybe raw carrots and some fish. It means no dinner. Never eat after 4pm. (It also means no pharmaceutical lobby.)

Can America do that? Of course not, that would mean displeasing the demons in the Insurance Industry (who probably killed JFK), and it also means we’d have to lobotomize our memories of everything we’ve learned about nutrition as a nation for the past two centuries.

Fact: Did you know that after you drink a Coke that your body turns everything you eat later into total fat? Corn Syrup tricks the body into doing that. That’s how we’re killing ourselves (and not getting laid): coca cola’s corn syrup recipe.

Dont drink corn syrup, people. Dont. Take away corn syrup, and America wont need a public option or any national healthcare plan. You are better off smoking than drinking corn syrup. Smoking kills 400k Americans per year. Corn Syrup kills 40 million Americans per year. (In fact, there are only four Americans left….and they have high cholesterol).

Fact.

Montana L

October 16th, 2009
4:13 am

I think CB is a troll b/c pushing Taiwanese diet is clearly a joke. Your vegetable choices are tofu, tofu, stinky tofu or mushrooms (both tiny and giant available).

Nach, I’m not giving up cheese even if it adds $1 million to the national debt.