How’s ObamaCare working out in Massachusetts?

OK, so RomneyCare would be a better name. But the answer is: Not too well.

Writes The Wall Street Journal:

[Massachusetts] passed a prototype for ObamaCare in 2006 on the same cost-control theory as Senate Finance, only to see spending explode. So now Beacon Hill is contemplating far more drastic spending-control measures, such as a plan to “require residents to give up their nearly unlimited freedom to go to any hospital and specialist they want,” as the Boston Globe reported on Sunday. Paul Levy, the CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, told the Globe that “You can’t reap these savings without limiting patients’ choices in some way.”

If this was the same cost-control theory that Democrats in Washington are still operating on, it bodes ill for promises like “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period.”

The Globe story is worth reading in its entirety.

68 comments Add your comment

sd

October 14th, 2009
12:10 pm

We need a single payer system with private insurers only covering gaps like with medicare.

Road Scholar

October 14th, 2009
12:20 pm

While we’re at it why not change the Family rates into two categories: one for two adults and one for adult(s) with children. Have you noticed that the family rate is always larger than double the single rate?

jt

October 14th, 2009
12:36 pm

Mitt Romney is a RIMO. (republicans in Mass. only). And RINO.

As far as presidential aspirations,
ROMNEYCARE will be ,not unlike, Mary Jo Kepechne’s influence on another northeastern liberal big-government Massuchessetts politician.

Since Kennedy has passed, who do the republicans serve now?

Jefferson

October 14th, 2009
12:43 pm

Just love the positive, optimistic articles…

Shaneeeeeeee Fananeeeeeeeee

October 14th, 2009
1:08 pm

Obama is a disgrace, end O’ story.

Joan

October 14th, 2009
1:25 pm

This entire Congress begs to be ousted. They are entirely unrepresentative of the majority of the taxpaying citizens in this country. Yes, I did say taxpaying. Why isn’t that important anymore? If the rest of the population gives a damn about themselves they need to get a job, and get off my lifeline.

David Axelfraud

October 14th, 2009
1:37 pm

KYLE, CAN YOU SEND THIS TO THAT SH!T FOR BRIANS BOOKMAN AND TUCKER????

Tentative Inspection Program Would Allow Russia to Visit U.S. Nuclear Sites

Russia and the United States have tentatively agreed to a weapons inspection program that would allow Russians to visit nuclear sites in America to count missiles and warheads.

The plan, which Fox News has learned was agreed to in principle during negotiations, would constitute the most intrusive weapons inspection program the U.S. has ever accepted.

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who met with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, said publicly Tuesday that the two nations have made “considerable” progress toward reaching agreement on a new strategic arms treaty.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/13/tentative-inspection-program-allow-russia-visit-nuclear-sites/

sam

October 14th, 2009
2:09 pm

twisting words…keeping your doctor is not the same as saying you can go to any hospital and pick any specialist you want. i have great insurance and I cant do either of those things now. let the misinformation flow…

Hatin'on the stupid

October 14th, 2009
2:14 pm

Fraud, if Fox said it, it must be true, right. Kinda like the death panels. Problem with a propoganda organization like Fox is, if you lie often enough, nobody believes you anymore, true or not. Time to diversify your information sources.

David Axelfraud

October 14th, 2009
2:26 pm

Hatin’on the stupid, when Chris Matthews has you bent over a table every night, does he make you scream MSNBC’s name out loud?

David Axelfraud

October 14th, 2009
2:29 pm

Hatin’on the stupid, what has FOX said that is not true?

David Axelfraud

October 14th, 2009
2:31 pm

Hatin’on the stupid reminds me of the utter stupidity that plagues this country. Little girls like Hatin’on the stupid sit in their mom’s basement all day when they should be working.

sd

October 14th, 2009
2:42 pm

David, why is what you reported a bad thing? Why does it concern you to have Russians look at our nuclear weapons?

We spend $18B a year to maintain our Nuclear Arsenal. We have enough bombs to blow up the entire world many times over. Do you think it might be just a tad excessive?

David Axelfraud

October 14th, 2009
3:11 pm

sd, people like you wondered why we would ever think terrorists were a threat before 911. Do you understand the concept of national security?

DebbieDoRight.

October 14th, 2009
3:20 pm

They need the public option. If they had that, I bet the costs wouldn’t “explode”. Romney believed the insurance companies would keep their word when it came to costs; but he should’ve known better.

There’s an old proverb about the scorpion and the frog: Scoropion asks frog for a ride on his back across the lake, the frog says nope, if I do that you’ll sting me, Scorpion says “no I won’t I promise!!” Frog says, OK half way across the lake the scorpion stings him and frogs says “Why did you do that!!?? Now we’re both going to die!” Scorpion says “Well, you knew I was a scorpion when you let me ride on your back.” Moral of the story. “Some entities can’t change, no matter how hard they may want to”.

DebbieDoRight.

October 14th, 2009
3:22 pm

Joan, if the people in their district VOTED for them, how are they not representative of the people of the US? Duh.

Chris Broe

October 14th, 2009
3:40 pm

Nobody thinks doctorin’ is cheap. Nobody thinks Americans deserve breast enhancements, sex changes, facelifts, or cheek implants (neither upper nor lower).

Healthcare reform is a total misnomer. There’s no reform possible. People get diseases whether they’re covered or not. “Pre-existing” is the biggest oxymoron that any lawyer ever doctor’d a contract with.

Death is pre-existing, if’n you employ insurance logic. Our cells will fail simply because they’re human cells, programmed to fail.

I am sick, sick of the pretense that there exists any support for the dead conservative political movement in this country. The GOP had a pre-existing condition called oblivious tyranny. That condition was complicated by Bush’s nation-building wars. Our country changed. The demographics evolved. People had babies with or without healthcare. Now, we have a diverse citizenry of 300 million and none of them support the GOP’s rebel-flag-festooned conservative platform, or the obnoxiously lame attempts by red-state diehards to mitigate Bush’s twin catastrophes: (not his hot daughters) the two wars we can’t extricate ourselves from ever.

How sick of the GOP r u? Twitter it. Take your blackberries, open the screens, and twitter loudly as you can: “I’m sick and tired of the last gasps of the dying GOP and I’m not going to take it anymore!”

bob

October 14th, 2009
3:45 pm

Hatin the stupid, Are you unaware of the Mass healthcare plan ? Why do lefties bring up fox, it was nor fox news that created the Mass plan and it is not fox tv’s fault the the plan sucks. like most gov plans, it costs more and delivers less.

David Axelfraud

October 14th, 2009
4:02 pm

bob, Mrs. Stupid brought up FOX because I posted an article for Kyle to send to SH!T for brains Jay Bookman and Cynthia Tucker about Russia being able to look at our nukes. Mrs. Stupid is just angry and depressed that her boobs are reaching her knees.

David Axelfraud

October 14th, 2009
4:03 pm

Chris Broe, why does your democrap party have an active member of the KKK in it?

sd

October 14th, 2009
4:18 pm

“sd, people like you wondered why we would ever think terrorists were a threat before 911. Do you understand the concept of national security?”

I do believe that I understand that concept.

If you wanted to kill me with a pistol that costs $25, but opted instead to buy a $1000 bazooka, would you find that excessive both in the mess it makes and the costs you spent?

Thats our nuclear arsenal.

So, try to answer my question. Why is it a bad thing that Russian inspectors will look at our arsenal?

David Axelfraud

October 14th, 2009
4:27 pm

sd writes: Why is it a bad thing that Russian inspectors will look at our arsenal?

answer: because Russia is not our ally.

David Axelfraud

October 14th, 2009
4:27 pm

sd: also, never show your hand at poker. Are you familiar with poker?

sd

October 14th, 2009
4:53 pm

Everyone knows we are sitting with 5 aces as far as nuclear arsenals go.

I don’t think you have a grasp on just how large our arsenal is.

David Axelfraud

October 14th, 2009
5:20 pm

sd, do you know that Russia, China and Iran are all linked? Guess what that means, comrade. It means that China has a military that is about to dwarf our military and when China and Russia combine, it means that we are dooooooooooooomed.

Hatin'on the stupid

October 14th, 2009
8:50 pm

Fraud: Better get that anger problem checked out. It’s really bad for your health. Who’s Chris Mathews?

freud

October 14th, 2009
10:12 pm

lil’ david, i feel sorry for your pillow…..

axelfraud's momma

October 14th, 2009
10:14 pm

david my boy your poker face looks like Rush taking a deuce after a pill binge…..

JImNATL

October 15th, 2009
9:47 am

The fact that you use the term ObamaCare deludes any message that you might have. I am starting to see what Sean Hannity means by Obama-Mania Media. You automatons on the right are just as obsessed with him as his “devotees.” Your blog did nothing to raise the discourse. So glad you are on board. Ho Hum.

David Axelfraud

October 15th, 2009
10:09 am

How Obama won the Nobel Piss Prize, I mean Peace Prize.

January 20: Sworn in as president. Went to a parade. Partied.

January 21: Asked bureaucrats to re-write guidelines for information requests. Held an “open house” party at the White House.

January 22: Signed Executive Orders: Executive Branch workers to take ethics pledge; re-affirmed Army Field Manual techniques for interrogations; expressed desire to close Gitmo (how’s that working out?)

January 23: Ordered the release of federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries. Lunch with Joe Biden; met with Tim Geithner.

January 24: Budget meeting with economic team.

January 25: Skipped church.

January 26: Gave speech about jobs and energy. Met with Hillary Clinton. Attended Geithner’s swearing in ceremony.

January 27: Met with Republicans. Spoke at a clock tower in Ohio.

January 28: Economic meetings in the morning, met with Defense secretary in the afternoon.

January 29: Signed Ledbetter Bill overturning Supreme Court decision on lawsuits over wages. Party in the State Room. Met with Biden.

January 30: Met economic advisers. Gave speech on Middle Class Working Families Task Force. Met with senior enlisted military officials.

January 31: Took the day off.

February 1: Skipped church. Threw a Super Bowl party.

So there you have it. The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, release federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries, party some more.

Lost child

October 15th, 2009
11:37 am

It’s my goal to not add anything of value to this blog, much like most of you. At least I realize it.

neo-Carlinist

October 15th, 2009
11:40 am

I just had an idea, thanks to Joan’s post yesterday. I understand that $$$ buys influence (lobbyists). This leads politicians to vote/legislate based on the needs of America’s corporate citizens, as opposed to individuals. Why not stipulate that any lobbying $$$ go to the Treasury and not some PAC or re-election coffer? The politicians work for US, right? It’s OUR money, not theirs. As it stands, the Medical-Insurance complex owns the House (and the White House). Untile We the People take it back, there will be no significant change in the status quo (Insurance is a racket, plain and simple. Insurance companies are pimps).

Repukes ALL Suck Eggs

October 15th, 2009
11:52 am

Too many crooks in health care sucking up the money for themselves. Git tough, cut reimbursement rates in half NOW for ALL, while doubling co payments for ALL patients. If an ER visit ain’t a true life threatening emergency, and the patient can not pay, they git arrested on the spot for theft of services. No bonuses for hospital exec’s.

ohmy

October 15th, 2009
11:58 am

“not too well”; well, two years in and maybe not so bad…

nobody, for sure, knows the long term effect of what universal health care will ultimately (not in the short term but ULTIMATELY) do to premiums and costs–nobody. one can find an economist on either side who can spin his theory appropriately. the fact is, a country as rich and as um, civilized as ours owes it to its populace to provide universal health care (see Friedrich von Hayek). the current system is unsustainable–that is a fact. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. when the political have-nots have again, they can better it–or at least change it to suit them.
“Universal coverage should itself bring down costs over the long run by preventing chronic disease and reducing the amount of non-urgent care provided in emergency rooms.”–Kevin Sack, NYT 3/09

Kyle Wingfield

October 15th, 2009
12:05 pm

To the fake Alexfraud: No stealing other people’s handles. That’s why I took down your comment…and the Hatin’ response to it.

David Axelfraud

October 15th, 2009
12:07 pm

Kyle Wingfield, what in the world are you talking about?

Kyle Wingfield

October 15th, 2009
12:10 pm

Axelfraud: Someone else posted under your name, so I took down their comment.

I’ve also taken down your comments about Hatin’ and Chris Matthews, which went over the line. And Hatin’s response to your now-removed comments. No one wants that kind of foul language on here.

David Axelfraud

October 15th, 2009
12:12 pm

Kyle Wingfield, ever heard of hitting back and hitting hard? That’s the problem with most conservatives. You guys let libs run all over you yet you never hit back where it hurts. Foul language? Wow, you should head over to Bookmans blog.

Hatin'on the stupid

October 15th, 2009
12:33 pm

Aww, Kyle, you took down my response to Fraud’s comment? It was gold, Kyle, pure gold!

BS Aplenty

October 15th, 2009
12:37 pm

Kyle,

I want to disabuse you of an assumed premise by many people about the health care bills being drafted by the Senate and House. You logically argue, based on evidence in Massachusetts and elsewhere, that government run health insurance schemes DO NOT control costs and they DO NOT promote efficiency. Your argument is masterful. It is a credit to the scientific method you learned in school.

BUT,

it’s not about healthcare. It’s about the government controlling more of the economy to allow liberal bureaucrats to direct the resources of a large segment of our economy to their preferred constituents.

There, that ought to just about cover everything.

David Axelfraud

October 15th, 2009
12:43 pm

Mrs. Stupid, your response was elementary school yard rhetoric, hack. But please continue to stroke your own tic tac sized ego.

David Axelfraud

October 15th, 2009
12:46 pm

Kyle Wingfield, my bets on who tried to use my name are on Mrs. Stupid. Her schizoid rhetoric from yesterday proves that.

BS Aplenty

October 15th, 2009
12:46 pm

There was a time when being called a communist was derogatory. Now, the liberal Democrats clutch it like an Academy Award…I’d like to thank the Academy and Marx and Lenin and Castro and, most recently, OO-go Chavez…]

Hatin'on the stupid

October 15th, 2009
12:49 pm

“Mrs. Stupid, your response was elementary school yard rhetoric, hack. But please continue to stroke your own tic tac sized ego.”

Is that what you call hitting back hard, Fraud? LOL

David Axelfraud

October 15th, 2009
12:52 pm

Mrs. Stupid, no, hitting back hard would get me banned from Kyles blog. But I’m sure you and your other personalities already knew that. LOL. Hack.

ohmy

October 15th, 2009
12:58 pm

a slight alteration to BSA’s post–to make it accurate:

it’s not about policy or responsible legislation. It’s about the government allowing politicians to direct the resources of a large segment of our economy to their preferred constituents.

Kyle Wingfield

October 15th, 2009
1:00 pm

Axelfraud and Hatin’: That’s enough.

BS Aplenty

October 15th, 2009
1:05 pm

ohmy,

I liked it better my way [more pop] but I respect your interpretation…

David Axelfraud

October 15th, 2009
1:12 pm

Hey, remember when Clinton sold our secrets to China. Well, here we go again.

EXCLUSIVE: Obama loosens missile technology controls to China

President Obama recently shifted authority for approving sales to China of missile and space technology from the White House to the Commerce Department — a move critics say will loosen export controls and potentially benefit Chinese missile development.

The president issued a little-noticed “presidential determination” Sept. 29 that delegated authority for determining whether missile and space exports should be approved for China to Commerce Secretary Gary Locke.

Commerce officials say the shift will not cause controls to be loosened in regards to the export of missile and space technology.

Eugene Cottilli, a spokesman for Commerce’s Bureau of Industry and Security, said under new policy the U.S. government will rigorously monitor all sensitive exports to China.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/15/inside-the-ring-2059116/

Churchill's MOM

October 15th, 2009
1:37 pm

Why can’t our next vice president show a little skin? The Obama girl showed more.

http://www.politico.com/click/stories/0910/meghan_mccain_considers_deleting_account.html