Fan talk: Outlook for Dogs at QB, playing Clemson more, SEC scheduling and recruiting!

Hutson Mason had a good showing this spring, including G-Day. (John Kelley / UGA)

Hutson Mason had a good showing this spring, including G-Day. (John Kelley / UGA)

Let’s get straight to some of this week’s Junkyard Mail. …

CP Bulldog writes: Bill, I know the party line is that Georgia should be in good shape this season at quarterback with a fifth-year senior, but I’m a little bit concerned because I still think the drop-off from Aaron Murray is gonna be pretty dramatic even if Hutson Mason plays more like he did against Tech than he did against Nebraska. And God forbid anything happens to Hutson, because our backups just don’t look ready for prime time. What’s your take, Bill? On a scale of 1 to 10, what’s your confidence level in Mason?

Right now, I’d rate Mason an 8 on your scale, and that’s up a bit from the end of last season primarily because he had a terrific spring in which he worked on his flaws under the more than capable tutelage of Mike Bobo, threw no interceptions in any of the three scrimmages, and looked confident and smooth at G-Day going up against a pretty formidable pass rush from the first-team defense. Talentwise, I don’t think Mason is on the same level as Murray, with his arm strength limiting him somewhat in those downfield throws, but he’s taller than Murray and appears to do a good job of scanning the field and picking a receiver. Granted, Mason had mixed results in the two full games he started last season after Murray got hurt, but I was really encouraged by the way he led the Dogs back from a 20-0 deficit against the Jackets, and I think you have to keep in mind that against Nebraska in the bowl he was limited by injuries to the receiving corps. With the Dogs’ offense fully healthy, I think Mason will be able to better show what he can do. Along those lines, Bulldawg Illustrated reported that Mark Richt told fans at a UGA Day gathering in Savannah this week that Mason “really tightened his grip” on the starting position this spring and added: “There’s not a thing in our system that Aaron Murray did that he won’t be able to do. He’ll be able to run it extremely well and we’re very excited about his leadership ability and how he’ll do for us.” As for the backups, I’ll admit there’s quite a gap between Mason and them, but I thought at G-Day Faton Batau showed a pretty good command of the offense, a surprisingly nice touch on his passes and a mobility that would help make up for a lack of real-game experience. So, no, I’m not too worried about quarterback at this point.

Several readers wanted to continue the discussion of scheduling, both the SEC’s decision to stick with eight conference games and Georgia’s future scheduling in particular. Dan writes: Bill, I would like to see UGA go home and home with Clemson. Good regional rivalry. Growing up when UGA played 10 games, we played Clemson every year. Now we play 12 (and have increased SEC games from seven to eight) and we can’t find room on the schedule to make Clemson a regular foe? I think the UGA fan base is getting tired of paying top dollar to see directional schools (Eastern Kentucky, Southwestern Louisiana, etc.). Next year’s schedule may show very low attendance figures.

Yeah, Dan, I think that 2015 home schedule for nonconference games may be a pretty severe test of Greg McGarity’s scheduling philsophy, with its emphasis on cupcake opponents filling the slots other than Georgia Tech. I recognize that one of the problems with upgrading the home schedule by adding non-cupcakes like Clemson is, of course, the necessity of a home-and-home deal, which means the loss of a game in Athens one of those seasons and the resulting in the loss of something like $2.5 million in revenue. But McGarity might end up eventually having to consider that an investment in shoring up overall attendance in an era when it’s generally on a decline. And if Georgia is going to play a power-conference team in addition to Tech, I agree with you completely that Clemson should be high on the list. Even if that isn’t the case, however, at a minimum I’d like to see Georgia continue its recent practice of having a home-and-home series with Clemson on the schedule at least once per decade.

Mark Haynes writes: I am a UGA alum living in Tampa. I log on to the AJC regularly to read UGA sports news and commentary. I always appreciate your wisdom. Thank you! Was reading your article about UGA football scheduling, and I want to share my thoughts. Now that we know it is an 8 game conference schedule plus Georgia Tech for us satisfying the other major conference requirement, UGA and McGarity need to get down to some serious scheduling. I wish everyone would stop sugar-coating this. Bottom line is fans want big games with name brand programs. We do not like playing directional schools (anything starting/ending with Northern, Southern, Eastern, Western). And, I would not even get out of bed to watch us play Georgia Southern no matter how good they are. It simply does not excite me. With the playoff system here, UGA needs to schedule big and win big. There are no other options. No excuses. … UGA needs to be in one of the kickoff classics every year. These are like mini-bowl games and are only going to increase in popularity. This year LSU-Wisconsin open in Houston and Alabama-WVU in Atlanta. Recently it was Alabama-Virginia Tech and Alabama-Michigan in Dallas. UGA got one shot at the Chick-fil-A game against Boise State (embarrassing). Don’t we have some pull with our in-state bowl in Atlanta? Can’t they match us with a big name? We should be in that game opener every 2-4 years. In addition to that, we need a marquee home-home series going on every year not just once a decade as McGarity is saying. I would like to see 2 of these going every year (one at home and one away) in addition to Georgia Tech. Then, we can fill in with a “semi-cup cake” in the years it may be needed.

I think two power-conference opponents each year in addition to Tech sounds like overscheduling, Mark. Not only would it be much more difficult, it would be harder on the players and might result in a year with only five home games, which would be disappointing for fans as well as tough financially. However, one marquee nonconference opponent on the schedule in addition to Tech, as Georgia has done in recent years, certainly would stir up more fan interest than having three cupcakes. It’s true, as McGarity noted this week, that the period that saw the Dogs playing those tougher games didn’t produce any championships. As he told the Macon Telegraph, “While it might have been exciting to fans, it did not yield a championship. So one could argue that in order to put yourself in the best spot, what model works best. So I think it just leaves it up to each institution to do what they think works best as they see fit.” Of course, if strength of schedule ends up becoming a key factor in whether the SEC can get two teams into the College Football Playoff, it might prove to be worth it in the long run to consistently play another marquee team.

Stanford head coach David Shaw called out the SEC this week on scheduling. (Associated Press)

Stanford head coach David Shaw called out the SEC this week on scheduling. (Associated Press)

As for the SEC sticking with eight conference games plus mandating one other game against a power conference team, Ted Marx writes: Bill, I was amused this week to see Stanford coach David Shaw lecturing the SEC on its need to start playing nine conference games like the Pac 12, Big 12 and Big 10 are doing. “Don’t back down from playing your own conference,” he said. Of course, when you’re in a conference like the Pac 12 that has a severe drop-off once you get past Oregon, Stanford and Southern Cal, it’s much easier to “play your own conference.” Likewise, most years the Big 10 is really just the Big 2 or 3. And until the Big 12 plays a conference championship game, I don’t think they have room to talk about anybody else. The SEC consistently has nine really good teams capable of beating most teams from most other conferences, and that has to be taken into account by the folks figuring “strength of schedule” for the new playoff, don’t you think?

Along the same lines, Jim P. writes: Bill, The recent decision to keep the status quo on the conference schedule is a brilliant move simply because there is uncertainty of how a [selection] committee will actually choose teams for a playoff. They may have an outline, but they are still human and may put more emphasis or bias of one thing over another. Leaving the schedule at 8 games gives the SEC the leeway to find out first what the committee does in reality. If it is an advantage, the SEC can stay at eight games. If not, the SEC can then change to nine games. It is much easier, politically speaking, to change up, if needed, than to try to change down from nine games.

Good point, Jim, and I’m sure that was in the minds of the conference presidents and athletic directors when they settled on the present course. As for the comments by the Stanford coach, Ted, I agree with you, but I’m a bit concerned that a general anti-SEC bias seems to be developing nationally that could keep a team other than the SEC champion out of the playoff in the future. Remember, the only reason this playoff finally came into being after years of fan gripes was because other conferences were tired of SEC domination of the BCS and particularly after two SEC teams (Alabama and LSU) played for the national championship. That’s what goosed the playoff movement. Plus, ESPN, the SEC’s partner in the new SEC Network, had to be a bit disappointed in the conference not moving to a ninth game and thus improving their inventory of TV games worth watching. The new network announced its first four weeks of TV games this week and the ESPN honchos in Connecticut can’t be too pleased by the Sept. 6 lineup that sees Florida Atlantic at Alabama, Arkansas State at Tennessee, Eastern Michigan at Florida, Nicholls State at Arkansas, Sam Houston State at LSU and Lamar at Texas A&M. No wonder ESPN’s Chris Fowler was tweaking the SEC on Twitter this week about voting down an opportunity to “improve quality.” I’m afraid that’s going to become a media mantra that ultimately will hurt the conference’s standing.

Finally, George in Gwinett writes in to lament: Bill, you need to raise the alarm about what a disaster the Dawgs’ recruiting is this year! We can’t seem to land any of the top in-state talent. Just about every week we lose another player to someplace like Auburn. I thought the addition of Jeremy Pruitt to the staff was supposed to help UGA recruiting, but we’ve got a lost year here!

Hold your horses, George. UGA hasn’t “lost” anyone yet. The folks who cover recruiting naturally like to play up the horse-race analogies all year long, but national signing day isn’t until Feb. 4, and until then all anyone has is verbal commitments that in this day and age have become all but worthless. Name recruits commit and decommit at a dizzying rate, so until the time comes to sign that letter of intent, everyone’s still in play. As for in-state recruiting, I hear recruitniks constantly talking about UGA needing to “close the borders” and keep all the top talent at home, but that’s an impossibility. Going back to Bulldawg Illustrated’s report on Richt’s comments this week in Savannah, the head coach summed it up pretty well when he said, “If we sign 20 a year, there’s probably 150 here that are major D-I players out of the state so you’re just not going to get all the guys out of your state. The SEC has more Georgia players on its rosters than any state in the union. Most people think it’s Florida but that’s not the case, it’s Georgia.” Face it, there’s just no way all the top talent in the state can wind up playing in Athens.

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107 comments Add your comment

HotDawg

May 3rd, 2014
12:46 pm

Just wanted to be first today to say Go Dawgs!

Buzz-Off

May 3rd, 2014
2:39 pm

Way to much concern over “cupcake” games. I vote to upgrade our schedule as long as all the other teams do the same. It’s tough enough already to win a NC so imagine what it would be like if UGa dropped the cupcakes for FSU, USC, ND, etc, while Bama, TN, FL and LSU kept playing cupcakes.

NoAxeToGrind

May 3rd, 2014
2:42 pm

Can someone out there please tell me what McGarity has done to elevate the fooball program at UGA since he has been there? I thought, according to some who professed to be in the “know”, that he was going to be the next best thing since sliced bread. I am still waiting to be convinced.

Jason 73

May 3rd, 2014
3:00 pm

Bill, it’s not the fact that UGA doesn’t have the room for the 150+ recruits, or that FEB4 is a ways away. It’s the fact that UGA fans just watched the 3 top OL in the state sign elsewhere. It’s the fact that there are not a lot of recruits lining up to pledge to UGA, even if they were to sign elsewhere in FEB. UGA needs to sign at least half the top 10 from the state of UGA.

Bill, I love your column from the fan’s perspective, read it as soon as it is posted. Thanks for the hard work you do for all UGA fans.

Jason 73

May 3rd, 2014
3:02 pm

Remember that with scheduling there has to be 2 signatures on the contract. I would like to see one more home and home on the schedule along with GT.

Bill King

May 3rd, 2014
3:30 pm

Jason:

Thanks. But no one has signed yet. These are verbal commitments.

DillPickleDanny

May 3rd, 2014
5:20 pm

Hutson Mason:
1- Averaged 10 yards per pass attempt against Kentucky, finished no 1 in SEC in QBR that week.
2- Torched the coach who had No 1 pass defense in 2013 for 240 yards on GDay
3- Did it this spring without his down the field deep weapons in Mitchell & Scott Wesley, also did it without a tight end Rome, without No 2 run back Marshall, and Pruitt had no answers for Hutson Mason’s offense and called him the best player on the field.

DillPickleDanny

May 3rd, 2014
5:22 pm

UGA finishes in the top 10 in recruiting every year because they & Bama lead the conference in getting guys into the NFL. So hey there Techhie, keep sounding that alarm.

DillPickleDanny

May 3rd, 2014
5:24 pm

SEC team has won the National Championship 7 out of last 8 seasons, so Slive knows how to schedule properly, no one with a brain worries about that.

Jason 73

May 3rd, 2014
8:40 pm

Sorry Bill, meant pledged, or as you said verbal, not signed.

ARdawg

May 3rd, 2014
8:47 pm

David Shaw and the rest of the *cough* “power conferences” can blow it out of their wazzoo. When they play a conference 8 game schedule as stout as the SECs then, he can attempt to disparage. Most SEC teams are playing 3-4 top 10 teams and 5-6 top 20 teams in the conference. When they can compare ten, run that mouth

DawgVoiceofReason

May 3rd, 2014
9:25 pm

I think the people who gave up on Hutson Mason after only two full games plus a few other appearances are premature to say the least. Is it reasonable to expect that he will rack up the numbers that Aaron Murray did? Obviously not. It is reasonable to expect that he can be very successful with the right supporting cast? Of course. He is going to have some talented play makers and won’t have to be a “gun slinger” if he gets protection from the line. And the team can and will win if the defense improves.

DawgVoiceofReason

May 3rd, 2014
9:30 pm

It’s funny to hear fans, sports talking heads and members of other conferences criticize the SEC when some of those same leagues didn’t even have a playoff til recently. While not true every year, in general the competition within the SEC is as tough as it gets anywhere in the nation. The SEC has been the standard bearer for some time now. People need to back off in any criticism of an 8 game schedule in the SEC.

DawgVoiceofReason

May 3rd, 2014
9:31 pm

replace “playoff” with “conference championship game”.

DawgVoiceofReason

May 3rd, 2014
9:38 pm

Not every regular season game has to be of “playoff” caliber, in terms of the quality of opponent, even with the new 4 game playoff. But, no D1-A team should be allowed to schedule a lower division opponent. Or, if they do, the ticket prices should be reduced and the games should not count toward any bowl or playoff consideration. On another similar vein, the NFL should not charge regular season ticket prices for pre-season games. That is a huge rip-off. After sitting through some dull pre-season Falcon’s games years ago, I vowed never again to pay for tickets to a pre-season game. Why should I (or anyone)? The teams aren’t necessarily trying to win, the offenses and defenses are inhibited, some of the players may never play again and the quality of the games is abysmal. Like I said, huge rip-off.

DawgVoiceofReason

May 3rd, 2014
10:02 pm

Although I certainly don’t want ticket prices in general to go up, what about a higher price for any major OOC games scheduled home and home? That would lessen the burden of the loss of revenue for the year where we play at the opponent. That would also reduce the number of “payout” games where we have to pay a lesser team to play us without expecting us to play an away game in return. Just a thought.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

May 3rd, 2014
10:12 pm

Im all for adding Clemson every year to the schedule

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

May 3rd, 2014
10:14 pm

DawgVoice of Reason

The ticket prices are already grossly over priced they dont need to be raised

UGA football did just fine before donations were required; they arent hurting for money

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

May 3rd, 2014
10:23 pm

Good to know Mason is doing good

Wont matter much though if he has to play behind another lousy o-line that continues to be a problem that has yet to be addressed year after year

DawgVoiceofReason

May 3rd, 2014
10:49 pm

Flat,

You don’t attend many other events, do you? $45 per game is nothing compared to concert tickets or even what other college football teams charge for big games. You also obviously don’t understand the reasons given for why they don’t want to schedule home and home games. It is because of the loss of revenue in the year when they play the away game. Does UGA “need” the money? I don’t really know. Is that reason cited? Yes, it is one of the reasons. If you don’t value “big” games more, then I can see why you wouldn’t want to pay it. I personally would pay a little more (say $15), if that would result in better quality opponents.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

May 3rd, 2014
11:18 pm

DawgVoiceofReason

Um obviously you’re not a season ticket holder

The games dont cost $45 dollars a ticket; theres something called a donation that you have to make so its a lot more expensive than $45 per ticket

HotDawg

May 3rd, 2014
11:34 pm

No donation required for non-renewable season tix….if available.
they try to keep that a secret.

HotDawg

May 3rd, 2014
11:39 pm

It comes down to supply and demand. I love Capitalism! Made and makes this country great!
There is high demand, regardless of some of the cupcakes.
We love our Dawgs!

DawgVoiceofReason

May 4th, 2014
12:04 am

Flat,

You’re obviously not the brightest bulb. We were talking ticket prices not total cost of attending a game. If you factor in the donation, that makes a small increase in the ticket price even less of a factor. Also, the donation has nothing to do with the per game revenue and scheduling, which is what the discussion was about. See also HotDawg’s note about non-renewable tix. I’m not really sure how I can simplify it anymore for you.

UGA "top 10" recruiting classes every year

May 4th, 2014
8:12 am

Georgia often has great recruiting classes. We sign QBs, Receivers, D Backs, LBs and All World Running backs. This assortment will always install UGA in as a Top tier recruiting class.

UGA does not consistently FINISH as a Top 10 school. Why? UGA does not sign 4 and 5 star Offensive Linemen. Yes, we have Theus but we lost Laremy Tunstil to Ole Miss and the big name O Linemen simply go elsewhere to play. Look at the class of 2015 O line commitments, so far. There is an exodus of talent. Linemen are usually good students too, so academics is no excuse.

Until this weird strategy changes, UGA, playing in the PHYSICAL SEC, will not be a consistent top
10 program.

UGA Alum, class of 71&73
Season ticket holder

gadawgluver56

May 4th, 2014
9:12 am

I realize that you can’t sign all of the 150 major D-1 players instate, however the 20 that we do sign should be the cream of the crop of those 150.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

May 4th, 2014
9:38 am

DawgVoiceofReason

Obviously the bulb you bought never worked.

Again with donation and the ticket price; the cost to see a UGA game is already too expensive and that was the original point

and I dont have to see anyone’s note… “if available” is the key word for those tickets

Class of '98

May 4th, 2014
9:59 am

“you have to keep in mind that against Nebraska in the bowl (Mason) was limited by injuries to the receiving corps”.

Yeah, he as also limited by the bricks attached to the end of Arthur Lynch’s arms.

Class of '98

May 4th, 2014
10:11 am

“Fans want big games against name brand programs”

Mark Haynes, sorry pal, you are not the spokesman for UGA fans. I want big games with brand name programs, too, but I’d prefer to see UGA play these games in January instead of September.

This is not a video game. These players are in their teens and early twenties. They can’t get mentally and physically prepared to play a Top-25 team 12 weeks per season. If a game against Georgia Southern bores you, tough toenails. Go mow the lawn instead of watching, I really don’t care.

Mark is entitled to his opinion just like I am. But stop saying “Fans want…”. Not every Georgia fan agrees with you. I want to win championships, and as long as our primary competition for those championships schedule 3 or 4 cupcakes a season, we should too.

Castle Pines Canine

May 4th, 2014
11:35 am

9 games, her is how you do it:
At the end of the season, you pair off the teams from each division. Championship is the top from each division! The 2 vs 7 from each side. since it is all for TV anyway all you have to do is arrange logistics for the teams to get to the place to play! The games will assure that the “9″ game deal is met, and that we have a way to handle it. Since the NCAA doesn’t seem to want to SEC teams in the mix, this will handle it. One year the east hosts, one year the west hosts. Then it will solve the BS about “9″ games.

BOB

May 4th, 2014
1:22 pm

The issue in the SEC schedule debate seems to be driven by the TV crowd who must generate the advertising revenue to pay the billions of dollars that they have committed to the various conferences over the next 10-20 years. The danger here is that the tail may start to wag the dog and not only will the networks determine the schedules but the level of excitement generated by the games. Sort of like a Gameboy game, the money is not on who wins or loses but how many participants log on.

DawgVoiceofReason

May 4th, 2014
1:48 pm

Flat,

The bulb I bought must have been YOU. The point is there is more than one way to achieve the stated goal of playing an opponent that lots of fans would want to see and maintaining the revenue that the Athletic department wants. What you’re apparently content with is still paying the same amount of money for a lesser opponent. You still pay $45 plus your donation, regardless of who we’re playing, with the way tickets are currently priced. If you’re happy with that, that’s your opinion. I’d rather have more games where we play more entertaining/higher quality opponents than is planned for 2015.

Dog4Life

May 4th, 2014
4:10 pm

what are the ticket prices these days? I thought my brother said he paid more than $45. Maybe he is counting the number of tickets + the hartman fund donation + the parking.

dawgfan

May 4th, 2014
5:40 pm

Class of ‘98, our primary competition for championships doesn’t have coaches who skip practices and say things like “continuity is a good thing” after an 8-5 season.

Let’s try and keep our eye on the ball.

Dog4Life

May 4th, 2014
5:57 pm

My only concern with Mason is his arm strength. We do have deep ball threats with the speed at wideout; however, if Mason can’t get the ball to them, then the D will shorten the field and have more available helmet contact on the RBs at the point of contact. The deep ball threat opens up the running game–medium and short passes will shrink the field hemming in the running game.. Remember the short intermediate pass worked with Murray because he was always a threat deep. Hopefully, i am wrong on this–but so far Mason does not seem to have a deep ball threat arm. A good athletic defense ie bama, LSU etc will take advantage of the short field scenario.

DawgVoiceofReason

May 4th, 2014
6:41 pm

Dawgfan,

I’m going to pose a series of questions for you that I believe you will be unable or unwilling to answer because you are unable to get past your loathing for Mark Richt. These are not rhetorical and don’t require, necessarily, any inside information on these programs.

Why has Michigan, a program with among the most wins in NCAA history, the largest stadium in the country that is continuously sold out, tremendous resources including some of the best players in the country (and lead for two years by one of the greatest QBs, Tom Brady, of all time) and a determined AD, unable to win a National Championship since 1997?

Why has Notre Dame, the most storied program in college football history, has as many National Championships as any school in history, a school that recruits nationally and effectively has its own national network, that also has tremendous resources, unable to win a National Championship since 1988?

Why has Nebraska another school with multiple National Championships, an NCAA record for consecutive home sellouts, tremendous football resources in a state where they are just about the only game in town also not been able to win a National Championship since 1997?

Why has the University of Florida, a team that plays in the most talent-rich state in the Southeast, has won multiple national championships, has a fiery coach and one of the best home field advantages in all of college football not been able to win a National Championship since Urban Meyer left?

Why has the University of Tennessee, a team with multiple National Championships, the largest stadium in the SEC, tremendous football resources not been able to win a National Championship since 1998? And why couldn’t they win, before that, with the QB many experts would rank as one of the greatest of all time, Peyton Manning?

Why has Oklahoma, another school with multiple National Championships including one by their current coach Bob Stoops, who is considered passionate about winning, and has had two Heisman Trophy winners, great defenses and some of the highest scoring offenses of all time, not been able to win a National Championship since 2000?

Why has Steve Spurrier, a coach who has won a National Championship, is widely thought of as a coaching “genius”, has had 10 plus years to build his program, has had one of the best running backs in college football before he was injured, who had the man some experts would say is the best player in all of college football for three years, a QB who essentially played an entire season with only one turnover and ran Spurrier’s offense to perfection not even “sniffed” (as you might say) a conference championship, much less a National Championship in almost 20 years?

Why did Alabama not win the National Championship last year, with players that played on multiple National Championship teams, loaded with the highest ranked recruits and with the acknowledged best coach (and one of the most intense) in college football? Further, how did they lose to a team with a new coach, with an abysmal record the prior year that barely beat a “vastly underachieving” Georgia team and lost to a down LSU team (that lost to Georgia!!!) earlier in the season? How is that even possible in your world?

There are other schools I could list, including Ohio State, Penn State, USC, UCLA but I think even you get the picture. Consider the following.

Are the coaches and administrators at these schools not motivated to win? Are they lazy, willing to settle for less than their and their player’s best? Do they just not care about winning any more? Would you fire any or all of these coaches and/or ADs at these schools. If not, why not? Are Nick Saban, Gus Mahlzan and Jimbo Fisher really the only coaches worthy of keeping their jobs? If not, who are the coaches that are winning the National Championships, that you say are the only things that matter, and that have inferior resources to the University of Georgia? Are there any schools that you think have better resources than UGA? If so, who are they, and are they winning National Championships? For that matter, other than Auburn, what schools have equal or inferior resources to UGA that are winning National Championships?

On a related note, who are “worthy” opponents for Georgia in your view? In other words, if we beat team “X” what would the record of team “X” have to be at the time we beat them and/or at the end of the season for it to be considered a “big win” in your book? Which means more to you: a win over a highly ranked team at the time we play them or a win over a team that is highly ranked at the end of the season? You have listed a number of teams and their won-loss records in response to Bill King, I believe,implying that none of those games were “big” wins. What are your criteria for a “big” win? If a team plays in a conference other than the SEC, are they worthy of being considered a “big win”? If so, why, when they play against mostly inferior competition in their own league? If a team isn’t ranked number one are they worthy? If a team is a rivalry game but hasn’t done well recently against us are they worthy? If a team has lost recently to us are they worthy? If a team nearly lost to us but somehow pulled it out, are they worthy? If so, why, since we are coached by a coach who you say doesn’t care and isn’t really any good at what he does? You have even managed, somehow, to downplay our wins this year against LSU and USCe because we didn’t end up winning a championship. Is the only game you’ll give any credit to either an SEC or National Championship? And even then, only if it meets certain criteria? Go ahead, lay our your well-thought out criteria for us all, so we can all know when you will be satisfied (not that we actually care, of course).

As I said at the beginning, I predict you will be unable to answer any of these questions. Oh, you’ll respond, but it will just be more rehashing of your loathing for Mark Richt or ranting against the “Kool-aiders” that you are also loathing. I know you see them everywhere and in every post. I don’t see much evidence of any such UGA fan on this blog. I do see plenty of evidence that you loathe Mark Richt.

RED DOG 77

May 4th, 2014
7:40 pm

First………….Well my goodness

RED DOG 77

May 4th, 2014
7:56 pm

First, that is to say “Bravo” DVR……….But don’t forget The Alamo……..er…a…Texas

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

May 4th, 2014
8:04 pm

DawgVoiceofReason

you still need to find another light bulb

Regardless of whether we play Albany State or the Dallas Cowboys a UGA season ticket holder still has to pay the same face value for the ticket regardless of who we play plus the hartman fund donation

again the original point was the ticket prices are too high and I should not have to pay anymore than what I pay now no matter who we play especially since all we get is a bunch of 3 to 4 loss seasons almost every year

there is no need to raise the price just because a Texas or whoever big name is coming to Athens; if you want to pay extra then by all means please feel free to go to an online ticket site and purchase those tickets cause you can be rest assured those tickets will be higher than the Vanderbilt or Kentucky tickets on an online site

now you can stop trying to spin the facts

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

May 4th, 2014
8:47 pm

DawgVoiceofReason

Your long winded question has actually been answered; again you might want to invest in a satellite radio

Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio St, Penn St, Nebraska etc no longer are the “TV Games of the Week” if you are old enough to remember those pretty much were the schools that were televised back 25 plus years ago

Recruits no longer have to worry about having to move to North or to OK NEB or USC to be showcased on TV to NFL scouts

Ever heard of the rust belt? Well a lot a folks have moved to the South. Thats lost recruits; hence why Southern schools have won 24 National Titles in 35 years with almost the rest coming from mid west schools

Recruits would rather play in warmer weather and they know they will still be on TV and pretty much play where the best football is played

As for Tennessee

Tennessee let Fulmer run the program into the ground before they decided to do something

As for Spuirrer I guess you havent watch much football but in case you didnt know SC never won 11 games in over 100 years of football Spurrier has done it 3 straight years nor has SC beat UGA 3 straight years in a row Spurrier did that with far less resources than UGA

As for your question about such and such program not winning a national title. No program is going to win a national title every year but let me know when FSU Alabama Auburn Florida LSU Oklahoma USC Texas take the talent that UGA has had and go 30 years with only a 1 one loss season and yet another 3 seasons of 5 or more losses in a 5 year span losing to its main rival FL almost every year for 20 years without their administration doing something about it

DawginColorado

May 4th, 2014
9:38 pm

DawgVoiceofReason
May 4th, 2014
6:41 pm

I applaud your reasoning and the execution of your post but I think it is wasted. NOT dawgfan will answer with his usual string of completely negative non sense and claim to have answered your questions. This is what he always does. He is not a Bulldog fan in any way, shape, form or fashion. He has proven it over and over again. What he offers up as “fandom” is the equivalent of telling someone that you love them while strangling them and then defiling their grave afterwards. If you detest something that much you have no business being anywhere near it. The wise move is to forget it and walk away. But NOT dawgfan has another game and he won’t walk away. Watch what he says in trying to answer you. He will yet again prove that he has not one ounce of Bulldog in him.

It is okay to be upset when your team isn’t performing the way you want it to. But no real fan lives in the netherworld of negativity the way NOT dawgfan does. That is how I know he isn’t a fan. I don’t even detest Tech as much as he detests our Bulldogs. He’ll claim it is all about Mark Richt but there is no way a real fan can watch the Dawgs push South Carolina around and not feel something positive about it. Remember he said “nothing positive happened this year”. He doesn’t even mention it. That is more than enough evidence to prove what a fraud he is.

Thank you for a well considered post.

DawginColorado

May 4th, 2014
10:00 pm

Err Flat… Georgia fired Goff and then Donnan. That is doing something about it. You always want to down play the simple fact that the Dawgs played the defacto National Championship game against Bama 2 years ago. Everybody but those of you that live in the permanently negative world understands that. But don”t let truth get in the way of your crusade.

You and I will always butt heads because you always chose to view things negatively. Tell me one successful endeavor that began based on a negative premise? You can’t because negativity breeds negativity. And negativity is counter productive. It’s alright to be upset when things don’t go the way you want them to. But you will not turn it around until you drop the negativity. No matter how hard you try, you will not succeed if you begin with “it can’t be done”.

DawginColorado

May 4th, 2014
10:02 pm

Errrr Flat… the Dawgs fired Goff and Donnan. That is doing something about it. Sorry but it seems like you want to conveniently forget anything that doesn’t fit your agenda.

DawginColorado

May 4th, 2014
10:08 pm

If we had not gone to the SEC CG in 2011, Richt would have been fired. He followed that with a near miss in the SEC CG in 2012. That is turning it around. Yes the defense sucked but Auburn damned near pulled it off with just as sucky a defense last year. Grantham is gone. It doesn’t matter how or why, he is gone and we got a top flight DC and recruiter in his place. How it turns out nobody will know until the games are played. You will not succeed at anything when you start with a negative premise. Sorry that is fact.

DawginColorado

May 4th, 2014
10:13 pm

Fact, the 5 loss season you moan about would not have happened if the losses on offense had not been so catastrophic. You can argue that all you want but go back and look at the SC and LSU games. That offense was potent enough to have taken down Mizzou and the loss to Vandy would have been a blow out win. Minus the miracle we beat Auburn with a hamstrung offense.

How come all the national guys see it but you, who claims to be a fan can’t? It’s mindset. You blind yourself.

FlyDawg

May 4th, 2014
10:19 pm

Hutson Mason’s arm is a little stronger than Murray’s. Look at the numbers, last 2 years Mason played (2011 & 2013) averaged 8.65 yards per pass, where the other QB at UGA (#11) averaged 8.2 yards per pass attempt.

Mason throws the deep ball quite a bit better than his predecessor, did much better when both UGA Qb’s played Kentucky, Mason was 10 yards per pass attempt, #11 was 8 yards per pass attempt.

Also, really excited about how Mason performed in his first bowl game versus #32 pass defense, Nebraska. He threw for over 320 yards, without Bennett, Mitchell, Scott-Wesley, or Jay Rome or Keith Marshall. Quite an arm on that guy.

Remember guys, #11 really struggled in his first bowl game, even though he had 5 future NFL WR’s in AJ Green, Orson Charles, Durham, Marlon Brown, and so on, Murray threw for 198 yards in his first bowl game against the #41 pass defense in 2010, so things look like a major upgrade at Qb for UGA!

DawginColorado

May 4th, 2014
10:22 pm

No, I didn’t like how things went last year. I complained bitterly about Grantham late in the season after it was apparent that the defense was not getting better. I was not happy when it appeared that he might be retained either. But he is gone and that is reason for optimism. I will not be enslaved to a negative mindset. Sorry but life is tough enough without adding the ball and chain of negativity to your life. Especially when you are talking about a game. It’s entertainment not life and death. If next year is a flop the sun will rise just the same and all that will be different is a small amount of happiness derived from a game. That is the way grown up human being view such things.

Bill King

May 4th, 2014
10:26 pm

FlyDawg:

Your estimation of Mason’s arm strength vs. Murray’s is not shared by most first-hand observers.

DawginColorado

May 4th, 2014
10:28 pm

FlyDawg – I wouldn’t go that far in crowning Mason as a sure fire upgrade but I do think that there are too many people going off the deep end based on a small sample size.

We will have to wait to see how things pan out in the fall to know for certain if we will be as well off at the QB position.

DawginColorado

May 4th, 2014
10:32 pm

You can still have a pretty decent down field game with an average arm. Peyton Manning has “just enough” of an arm. Montana wasn’t a cannon either. You just have to be able to get it there without it hanging it too much.

I look for the Dawgs to test that early against Clemson. Then we will know.