For Bulldogs and Jackets, ‘Hate Week’ never goes out of fashion

georgia vs tech punchSomeone once dubbed the in-state rivalry between Georgia and Georgia Tech “Clean Old Fashioned Hate.”

Visit the putrid environs of the Yellow Jacket discussion boards, where Tech students and fans make ridiculously tacky comments about the state’s flagship university and its fans and athletes, and you might question just how “clean” it is.

But old fashioned? No, the rivalry between the Bulldogs and the Insects is as current as any social media meme: Check Twitter or Facebook or just talk to a supporter of either school during what’s known as “Hate Week.”

Yes, UGA has other football rivalries that mean more to the program since they’re conference games — Florida, especially. And the series hasn’t been as competitive as some of our other football rivalries in recent years as the Bulldogs have dominated the annual meeting with the North Avenue Trade School.

But despite that, the game with Tech is the one that the players and the Bulldog Nation least want to lose, which in my book pretty much defines a great rivalry. A win over Florida may be celebrated a lot more than a victory over Tech, but a loss to the Jackets, however rare, is just plain unacceptable.

Of course, along with the domination of the series by Georgia, there also are questions about whether Mark Richt’s Bulldogs can still get themselves riled up over the Jackets in what’s proved to be a disappointing season. Some, like my colleague Jeff Schultz, wonder whether Georgia now being officially out of the SEC race and having lost its starting quarterback might affect the Dogs’ morale and perhaps give Tech more motivation going into Saturday’s game at Bobby Dodd Stadium.

I think that’s unlikely. The players on both sides generally know members of the other team personally, and in some cases have played high school ball with each other. The losing side hears about it for a year from all quarters in this state.

And, as Georgia receiver Chris Conley noted to the Athens Banner-Herald on the subject of some of the classless comments that Techies have posted online reveling in Aaron Murray’s season-ending injury, there’s no “searching for motivation for this game.”

Feelings run high in this series every year. It’s a game that, as newly anointed starting quarterback Hutson Mason and other Bulldogs have said this week, always tends to get “chippy.”

Senior Dog offensive lineman Chris Burnette explained it to ESPN this week: “Growing up watching Georgia football, you understand that … you want to beat Tech first and foremost. … You never want to end your career with a loss to Tech. So that’s definitely something that’s not going to be hard to get up for. We understand what they bring on offense and what they bring on defense and all that type of stuff, so we’re going to be ready.”

“I think our guys understand how important this game is,” Richt said at his Tuesday press conference. “I don’t know if we’ve had a game [against Tech] where I’d say that we came out flat. I think we’re playing our best football when we play Georgia Tech.”

Other great college football rivalries may be falling victim to conference and schedule reshuffling, and there’ve even been discussions among disgruntled Tech fans about how their program might be better off ending the series with UGA because of the latter’s dominance. But you rarely hear anything like that from the Georgia side.

Beating Tech is just too much fun.

I do think it’s true that, as I wrote back in 2009, the rivalry looms much larger in the year-round consciousness of folks at Tech. They seem a bit more obsessed with the Dogs than the Dogs and their fans are with Tech. Yes, it’s considered a must win by the Bulldog Nation, but Georgia players and fans don’t really focus on the game all year long like they do on the Flats.

Back when I wrote that, I heard from Tech fans lecturing me that if the rivalry didn’t mean just as much to me, I wouldn’t be writing about it. Their tortured logic aside, my point was that Georgia players and fans hate losing to Tech, but aside from Hate Week, they don’t really think about it all that much.

I was talking with a UGA fan the other day who admitted, “Until this week I hadn’t even followed Tech closely enough to know what their record was. I knew they’d lost big to Clemson and a few others, but that was about it.”

All that changes, though, during Hate Week, when Georgia fans also have the luxury of looking back over the past five decades of mostly good times going up against Tech. (You can go here to see what I’ve written in the past about my top 10 favorite wins over the Jackets, and here to learn my all-time favorite victory in the series.)

So, from what I can see, Hate Week is still thriving despite the one-sided nature of the rivalry, but I’d be interested in hearing where you rank Tech among UGA’s rivals. Is it still the one must-win game every year? And would it ever be acceptable for the two schools not to meet annually in football? Feel free to share your thoughts (just don’t descend to the level of those folks at Stingtalk!).

I’ll be back here Friday with more on Saturday’s game and some Junkyard Mail. In the meantime, I hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable Thanksgiving.

Go Dogs! Wreck Tech!

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85 comments Add your comment

BazookaJoe

November 27th, 2013
10:55 am

Dont think Ive ever been first…… Hmmm, not sure what to think (other than everone else must be off doing something else, shouldnt I as well ??

BazookaJoe

November 27th, 2013
11:00 am

OK, now thats out of the way…. on to your question Bill. I have had this same discussion with many a Dawg, and where the sweat bees land on someones list depends on how old they are. Older folks have Tech #1 rival, younger people have them #2 after Florida. Where do I fall ? Age wise with the former, and if the bungle bees had not chickened out and ran away from the SEC I would say they are a clear #1. I think they are still #1 just because as you mention, the thought of losing to them is disgusting (I am thinking about a saying from the movie Patton, but I cant remember the exact words used in the opening scene….).
Florida means more to the Dogs, but the honey bees are our little nerdy cousin so we need to beat up on them.

DawginKY

November 27th, 2013
11:06 am

It’s amazing the amount of hate coming from the faithful of a safety school like GT.

If you need a top-notch engineer, hire a Purdue grad.

Really?

November 27th, 2013
11:09 am

Bill,
So you honestly believe that UGA fans don’t make similarly distasteful comments about GT and their players? You think there’s not a UGA equivalent of StingTalk? Don’t be so ignorant, get off your high horse and take off those red-colored glasses. Every fanbase has groups whose sole purpose is to get under the skin of rivals

SimpleDawg

November 27th, 2013
11:20 am

Bill, you hit on 2 very valid points in UGA people’s hate for GIT….as in, “Git outta here, go on, git.” :

The utter arrogance of their self-fulfilling Superiority Complex, and the stupid, classless, and derisive comments about The University of Georgia and it’s supporters.

It’s so easy to hate the whole lot of ‘em, based on the idiotic, vocal, and hopefully minor percentage of their overall fan base…….making jokes about them is like picking low-hanging fruit….hard to pass on the opportunity.

Looking forward to another win over our stalker hate group…..GIT, as in…….

George Stein

November 27th, 2013
11:22 am

Seriously? Go read the comments on the AJC where I and many Tech fans expressed sympathy and admiration for Murray.

Go take down your strawmen elsewhere. You’re essentially no different than those dolts.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

November 27th, 2013
11:25 am

Really?

The Tech fan base is well known for their classless fans just ask other programs fans. Sure every fan base has those type fans but Tech fans take the cake

Columbus Dawg

November 27th, 2013
11:28 am

Bill, George Stein is right, Tech fans on these blogs have been pretty classy concerning Murray’s injury.

George Stein

November 27th, 2013
11:33 am

I’d love to see your data to support that, Flat Tire.

Thanks, CD.

Jacket73

November 27th, 2013
11:35 am

Rumor on Sting Talk is that GT players will be going after Garrison Smith’s knees since he is one of the last standing Seniors. We shall see what happens on The Flats!

Really?

November 27th, 2013
11:40 am

So a small group of “classless” internet trolls represents the opinions of the entire GT fanbase?

If so, I suppose the few fans that took “classless” to a whole new level by egging and rolling Murray’s home meant that all of dawg nation was behind them in spirit. Good to know.

Dawgs42wreck10

November 27th, 2013
11:41 am

Jacket 73, while I wouldn’t put it past any techies to try their customary chop blocks to take out UGA defenders, if they end up hurting Garrison Smith YOU WILL feel the wrath of the entire Bulldog nation.

Dawgs Run This State

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

November 27th, 2013
11:44 am

Just look at a UGA blog everyday and you can find data there

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

November 27th, 2013
11:47 am

Really?

Classless, yep;

just like the leader of the football team said the Tech fans should go punch UGA fans in the mouth

Yea I would say your program is pretty classless when your own head coach makes such statements

StatesboroDawgFan

November 27th, 2013
11:49 am

Tech fans are totally satisfied with 7-win seasons and continued mediocrity.

Most UGA fans have nothing but respect for Aaron Murray and all he has done and accomplished in 5 years at UGA.

p.s. – If that Garrison Smith rumor turns out to be true then there will most certainly be some Jackets punched to the turf at The Joke by Coke.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

November 27th, 2013
11:56 am

Classless yea

like 2008 when Tech finally beat us then proceeded to destroy our hedges

Old Lady Dawg

November 27th, 2013
11:58 am

Growing up in Atlanta tech fans used to say that if you rode through Athens and opened the window they would throw a diploma in! I am proud to be a Dawg! And so is my daughter! What a great education we both got! Go Dawgs! Sic ‘en!

dudemankind

November 27th, 2013
12:03 pm

Florida means a lot more IMHO. That game has cost both teams shots at SEC and National titles. I honestly could not care if they canceled the annual game with Tech and played them in a rotation with Clemson.

dawgfan

November 27th, 2013
12:29 pm

Hi there Techies. Long time no see. How’s your season going? I haven’t been able to catch any of your noon kickoff games on ESPN 8 the Ocho.

Georgia Tech=JOKE.

Old Dawg

November 27th, 2013
12:33 pm

It’s an in-state rivalry, that says it all. Both schools don’t like each other. Both teams don’t like each other.

Game on!

Class of '98

November 27th, 2013
12:33 pm

I think we should play Tech two-years-on, two-years-off. That way, UGA could schedule a home-and-home against a team that is respected nationally.

@dawgfan

November 27th, 2013
12:37 pm

UGA has had four noon games and two night games.

GT has had four noon games and four night games.

4 > 2

Oddly enough the same comparison applies to number of National Championships.

derp.

CHDawg

November 27th, 2013
12:37 pm

I agree that we have had a lot of fine folks, Tech fans, make kind and gracious comments. A few well known problem children can disrupt the class, though, and unfortunately they exist in both fan bases. I am hoping for a good, clean, old fashioned, injury free win on Saturday. Should be fun to watch, as both teams have exciting Os.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

November 27th, 2013
12:39 pm

I agree Florida is the main rivalry not Tech

GT can go 1-11 as long as that win is against UGA and they would consider that a monumental season

old dog

November 27th, 2013
12:41 pm

Unfortunately, Tech has chosen to take the rivalry out of the game. No matter how bad this season has gone, no matter about all the old “throw out the record books” for this game, etc. the fact remains that unless 1/2 of our team rolls off the cliff before the game, we will beat Tech. And, if we do not, then we ought to be ashemed of ourselves. As a matter of fact, if we lose to them this year especially, we even ought to be ashamed of everybody else too! My only regret is tech is so bad, UGA will allow CTG another year, because even he will look decent against them.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

November 27th, 2013
12:46 pm

“Oddly enough the same comparison applies to number of National Championships.”

Actually if UGA counts Cracker Jax box national championships like Tech

UGA has 5; 1927, 1942, 1946, 1968, 1980

GT has 4; 1917, 1928, 1952, 1990

old dog

November 27th, 2013
1:03 pm

Actually, congrats are in order for the teckies; they have regressed even FASTER than our defense……and that takes some speed and quickness! Congrats, boys, and too bad we gotta play y’all and give CTG another year…..

wallydawg

November 27th, 2013
1:04 pm

I think TODAY, Florida is our biggest rival, due to SEC and BCS implications. Like this year, when we lost to Clemson the first game, we could have still won titles (possibly) by losing that game. But that would be a lot less likely if we lost to Florida. Granted, I don’t have the same hatred for Florida since Spurrier left… some of that has transferred to South Carolina now. But still I would say Florida.

And I’m like dudemankind… if the schedulding got tight, I’d be fine to rotate Clemson and Tech. Do whatever we need to do to keep the Auburn game (as long as we knock the ball down from now on!).

old dog

November 27th, 2013
1:20 pm

Tech is quickly becoming an afterthought. Back in the day (like when I was at UGA in the ‘70 s) there was a true rivalry. It has changed now, and Tech by and large does not have the team necessary to challenge day in and day out. If they did beat us, it would have to be because we just rolled over and quit. In our day, we won, they won; we won, they won and the bantering back and forth had meaning. As previously stated, the only good thing that could come out of the insects stealing a victory would be the hastening (hopefully) of CTG’s departure. However, it just is not likely; they just are not good enough to even trip us up.

7576DAWG

November 27th, 2013
1:42 pm

There is NO hate against Georgia Tech since they chose to leave the SEC. This is just a clean rivalry which will always be dominated by Georgia because of the different academic requirements and because the ACC is a much weaker Conference than the SEC.
In the mid 70’s when my brother went there his graduating class had 12 girls in it. Who would go to a school that is made up of just males unless that is what you prefer. The only female contact was when they had socials with the 2 or 3 all girl schools around Atlanta. Today the female student body make up 32% of the total. That just would not be enough for me.
The biggest Rivalry we have is the Florida game because it is against a good SEC opponent but the most hated game is the Auburn game because they have for 30 year been linked to cheating , payoff’s and low down , unethical practices just to win.

old dog

November 27th, 2013
1:45 pm

7576DAWG,
Now thats funny I don’t care who you are!!

P-Man

November 27th, 2013
2:30 pm

Wreck Tech! Wreck Tech!
Wreck Geor-gia Tech!
Wreck Tech! Wreck Tech!
Wreck Geor-gia Tech!
Wreck Tech, Georgia! Wreck Tech, Georgia!
Georgia, Georgia… Wreck Tech!

P-Man

November 27th, 2013
2:41 pm

When my mom was here in the 40s, the students used to start the “Wreck Tech” cheer about halfway through the season, and do it every week. When I was a student in the 80st, a friend of mine had a button that said, “Avoid the rush: hate Tech early”. It’s hard for me not to hate Tech, but I’ve tempered it a little since I had a brother attend Tech, and my wife’s brother graduated from there. Basically, I root for Tech, unless we are playing them (and the occasional times when they need a loss to drop out of national contention. 1990 was a miserable year…

Grubbdawg

November 27th, 2013
3:03 pm

Flagboy …. don’t ever forget about Flagboy. Fondest Teck non-game memory was looking down at the field at halftime between the hedges at the teck band and realizing that I was not looking at the ugliest girl ever on tecks flag corps but at a very proud ( and sassy!) guy. About the same time a chant arises from the UGA student section ” Flag-boy…. Flag-boy !” priceless moment.

7576DAWG

November 27th, 2013
3:08 pm

old dog
My brother graduated from Georgia Tech, I graduated from Georgia in 76 and my father grew up in Lake City Florida, less than an hour from his beloved Gators. Needless to say when we could all get together, Saturdays in the Fall were interesting around my house.

MFrankln

November 27th, 2013
3:22 pm

I remember the first time I saw the big ‘G’ flag they run out ahead of the team when it turned completely black… it was a yech game and behind it ran this gal carrying a small sign that said: Black Flag Kills Bugs Dead! This was like in the late 80s… Dooley was still coach at the time if memory serves.

old dog

November 27th, 2013
3:45 pm

7576DAWG,
Interesting around your home on gameday, for sure. I have searched my soul, watched the games, etc. and can find absolutely no reason to keep Grantham. He cannot teach his system, and does not have the right folks to run it even if he could (which I highly doubt.) As I stated previously, folks keep yelling about missed assignments on defense. This is wrong; a missed asignment assumes that the guy knew what he was supposed to do and boogered up. Since on so many plays nobody knew what to do, then the missed assignment theory does not work for me. They did not even know what their assignment was, therefore blowing that theory to the lower region. We should not have a system where a guy has to explore 100 possibilities before he can make a play. Lets just play good-old-fashioned SEC defense. I know schemes are a little more complicated these days, but CTG has carried it way too far, and it ain’t workin’!!

dawgfan

November 27th, 2013
4:47 pm

Tech fans are arrogant, insipid and some of the most unbearable people you will ever have the displeasure of being around.

All in good fun though. I only partially meant that.

7576DAWG

November 27th, 2013
5:07 pm

old dog
Grantham signed a long term contract with Georgia because his main desire is to become a Head Football Coach with a top College team. He was hoping to bring his NFL experience with him to help on recruiting and for the most part , it has helped get some top Defensive Recruits to come to Georgia.What has become obvious is he can’t understand the difference coaching an 18 year old versus someone in their mid twenties. His stubbornness to simplify everything is more evidence that he won’t ever be able to be a successful College Head Coach if he ca’t even modify a Defensive scheme that anybody playing under him can understand. I don’t see any other Defensive Coordinator from any top team hold a board directing his Defense on every play. They should know what to do by themselves.
EVERY COORDINATOR WON’T BE A GREAT COORDINATOR AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL.EVERY GREAT COORDINATOR WON’T BE SUCCESSFUL AS A HEAD COACH. Unless Grantham can get down to a college level he needs to go back to the pro’s. Georgia has only given up 138 yards a game on the ground this year . That is really good but is it because of Grantham or Wilson? I’m not willing to give Grantham any longer if there is another Defensive Coordinator that can Recruit and improve on Grantham.

todd44dawg

November 27th, 2013
5:23 pm

Very good chance we will lose to Tech. Need Bama to beat auburn and mizz to upset Bama. Go seminoles

todd44dawg

November 27th, 2013
5:53 pm

Good point 7576 dawg.who cares if grantham can recruit he still can’t coach.If Ga doesn’t fire grantham it will very disappointing and maybe they should fire mcgarity richt bobo and all the other clowns

7576DAWG

November 27th, 2013
6:14 pm

todd44dawg
It wouldn’t hurt my feelings if Georgia did get rid of Olivadotti, Lakatos and Friend. Maybe letting Lakatos have one more year is okay if he can play under another Defensive Coordinator. Grantham is not the only problem. Olivadotti and Friend can’t recruit . Lakatos can recruit but we have a lot of missed assignments from the Defensive backs. I don’t know if that is Grantham’s fault or Lakatos.

bubba4dawgs

November 27th, 2013
7:11 pm

The insects use the chop block a lot. I really think it should be outlawed. Garrison Smith will be ready for it and perhaps use a chop block of his own. He will get his for sure!!

Debriefer

November 27th, 2013
7:26 pm

It must be SOME assistant coach’s fault.

Debriefer

November 27th, 2013
7:27 pm

Cut Blocks?

Just step back and let the little Smurfs fall flat in their face, and then squash the QB.

Thomas

November 27th, 2013
8:14 pm

tech sucks. i hate we beat them senseless. i’ll agree that if we lose, its simply unacceptable.

PulpwoodGotOnPinkInHonorOfGaTech

November 27th, 2013
8:18 pm

I hate tech. They are easily the #1 rivalry the Dawgs have out of the six or so options – more than any other team in the nation.

Nothing is worse than losing to tech and having the dill-wads who do not understand sports come out of the woodworks. I sure do like beating them, but there is more pain involved when we lose than enjoyment when we win. It’s personal. Richt and the team understand this which is why I fully expect utter domination. Especially after the Murray comments tech fans posted came out and made it personal for the team.

Biggest game of the season. No matter what. 11-0, 7-4 or 0-11 it still means the same. Sic ‘em

VOLINGA

November 27th, 2013
8:19 pm

Wow….this writer is one heck of a homer. Georgia definitely has better talent than GT, but they certainly DON’T do more with the talent they have. In fact, you’d be hard pressed to find a school with consistently high recruiting classes that under-achieves as much as UGA.

Mobile Dawg

November 27th, 2013
9:51 pm

I think with Mason at QB Richt will go conservative. I remember several years ago after the Martinez firing that we ran probably 95% of the time. They will try to get Gurley his 1000 yards and keep the ball away from Tech. Our OL will bust or shine once again. This one will be close, hate to say it but the Dawgs lose and we probably end up in Nashville, which isn’t all bad, my brother lives there.

Buzz-off

November 27th, 2013
10:06 pm

@Volinga,

You are so incredibly insightful. UGa does indeed get better talent than GT and does nothing with it. That is why UGa is 11-1 over GT in the last 12 years. I guess stomping the snot out of a bunch of bugs is “underachieving” and doing nothing with their talent!!! Go DAWGS !!!