A primer for young Dawgs who don’t understand how big Georgia-Clemson really is!

Georgia-Clemson logosWe discussed recently here Georgia’s great football rivalries, and it saddens me a little to think that for most younger fans Georgia-Clemson doesn’t fall in that category.

It’s no wonder. Despite being in such close proximity to each other and having such a rich history of gridiron clashes, the two schools haven’t played that much in recent decades: only four times in the 1990s and only twice since then, the last time being a decade ago. That’s in contrast to the period when I came of age as a Georgia fan, when the Dogs and the Tigers met nearly every year (and, in fact, every year from 1973 through 1987). Unfortunately, as conference schedules grew, the yearly grudge match became an occasional thing and one of the country’s greatest rivalries waned.

Of course, even UGA football newbies view this Saturday night’s game as a big one. After all the Bulldogs are the nation’s No. 5 team and Clemson ranks No. 8. It’s the first time in history that both Georgia and its opening opponent of the season will be ranked in the Top 10.

The previous highest-ranked opener for the Dogs was back in 1982, when No. 6 Georgia beat No. 11 Clemson in Athens.

But get this, younger Bulldogs: When that 1982 game took place, Georgia-Clemson was probably the biggest rivalry on the Dogs’ schedule, even bigger to many fans than Georgia-Florida in Jacksonville!

And during the rivalry’s greatest run in the early 1980s, Tiger fans and players were heard to declare that the Georgia game meant more to them than even playing the hated Gamecocks.

While Georgia leads the series 41-17-4 and has won the past five meetings, the rivalry was dead even during its glory days in 1977-87 — a period that saw each school win a national championship — with the two teams going 5-5-1.

Clemson’s only regular-season losses in 1978, 1982 and 1991 were to the Dogs, and Georgia’s only regular-season loss during that great three-year Herschel Walker run was in Death Valley to the eventual 1981 national champion Tigers.

As I noted a couple of years ago when writing about the impending return of Georgia-Clemson for two games in 2013-14, great rivalries make for great trash talking, and aside from Tech, the legendary Lewis Grizzard got off some of his best shots at “Clempson,” the school he referred to as “Auburn with a lake.” My favorite was after protesting farmers staged a tractorcade at the state Capitol in 1978. Lewis cracked that he hadn’t seen that many tractors since the last time Clemson played in Athens.

And only great rivalries get books written about them; Georgia-Clemson has one in Kyle King’s “Fighting Like Cats and Dogs” (more on that to come).

Georgia's Thomas Davis puts a big hit on Clemson's Charlie Whitehurst in the 2003 season opener. (University of Georgia)

Georgia's Thomas Davis puts a big hit on Clemson's Charlie Whitehurst in the 2003 season opener. (University of Georgia)

Looking ahead, with a possible nine-game conference schedule being considered by the SEC, Georgia-Clemson soon may be relegated to something that only happens in the occasional neutral-site kickoff game or in a bowl, but as a reminder of what a great rivalry the Dogs and Tigers have had over the years, I thought I’d trot out an updated recounting of my favorite games from the series:

1968: Georgia wins 31-13 in Athens. I remember after I finished selling my game programs at Sanford Stadium I managed to snag a seat near the 50-yard line in the south stands for this great game in an SEC championship season for the Dawgs. The typically tough Erk Russell defense notched two safeties that day, but it actually was an atypical game for UGA in the Vince Dooley era in that Georgia had 300 yards passing, including a 37-yard touchdown strike from Mike Cavan to big Dennis Hughes.

1969: Georgia wins 30-0 at Clemson. Cavan threw two touchdown passes and ran for another score as the Dogs shut out the Tigers in Death Valley.

1976: Georgia wins 41-0 at Clemson. Before a national television audience on ABC, Georgia’s quarterback tandem of Ray Goff and Matt Robinson humiliated the Tigers. Goff had a 73-yard scoring run and Robinson threw three touchdown passes, including an 85-yarder to Gene Washington. Quite a day.

1980: Georgia wins 20-16 in Athens. It was a tightly fought game during the national championship season in which Clemson won the statistical battle but the Dogs had the key number on the scoreboard. Scott Woerner ran back a punt 67 yards for a touchdown and returned an interception 98 yards to set up a Buck Belue score.

1982: Georgia wins 13-7 in Athens. This was a big, big game, Georgia’s first under the new Sanford Stadium lights as the two preceding national champions met on national TV on Labor Day night with Gomer Pyle himself, Jim Nabors, on hand to sing the national anthem. Herschel had an injured thumb and no one was sure how much he’d play, if at all. When he entered the game as a decoy in the second quarter the focus was so much on him that Tron Jackson was able to score on a 41-yard reverse, though the score was wiped out by a penalty. Herschel played more in the second half, though he wasn’t really a factor. But the Georgia defense rose to the occasion, intercepting Athens native Homer Jordan four times and blocking a punt that turned into a touchdown for the Dogs. And Kevin Butler kicked two field goals.

1984: Georgia wins 26-23 in Athens. Speaking of Butler, his legend was made on this day. After coming back from being down two touchdowns at halftime to tie the game at 20, go ahead by 3 and then see Clemson tie it up again at 23-23, the Dogs upset the No. 2-ranked Tigers when Butler kicked it 100,000 miles, as Larry Munson said (actually 60 yards) for the winning field goal with 11 seconds to go. The stadium, as Munson screamed, was “worse than bonkers.”

1985: Georgia wins 20-13 in Clemson. Breaking out their red britches for the first time since the 1980 opener with Herschel, the Dogs won a big upset in this nationally televised game in Death Valley thanks mostly to the spark provided by second-string quarterback James Jackson and a pair of interceptions by rover John Little. Georgia center Pete Anderson was also a hero that day for falling on a Bulldog fumble for a touchdown.

1991: Georgia wins 27-12 in Athens. On Goff’s best day as head coach, the Dogs upset the No. 6-ranked (and eventual ACC champion) Tigers on national television thanks to the efforts of freshman quarterback Eric Zeier, who replaced starter Greg Talley. It was a big day in local sports that also saw the Braves clinching the NL West.

2002: Georgia wins 31-28 in Athens. The close calls that characterized Georgia’s first SEC title season in 20 years started in this night game at Sanford Stadium as QB David Greene struggled. But backup D.J. Shockley, a redshirt freshman playing his first game, threw for one touchdown and ran for another, Fred Gibson returned a kickoff 91 yards for a score and Billy Bennett made a late fourth-quarter field goal for the margin of victory. A Tiger field goal attempt that would have tied it up fell short, and the Dogs clinched it when they converted on fourth down with 40 seconds left. Typical Georgia-Clemson.

2003: Georgia wins 30-0 at Clemson. The Dogs entered the game with a shaky offensive line, two starters out injured and eight other players out on suspension, but Greene connected early with Gibson on a beautiful 56-yard touchdown strike. Greenie also had a 3-yard touchdown run, Shockley scored on a 29-yard run, Bennett added three field goals and the defense, which held Clemson to 7 yards rushing in the first half, preserved a shutout against the Tigers with a David Pollack interception. Perfect.

That’s the last time Georgia and Clemson played, but I’m hopeful this coming Saturday night will add another memorable Bulldogs win to my list!

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183 comments Add your comment

Owen Scott, III

August 28th, 2013
9:23 am

Spike

August 28th, 2013
9:31 am

They used to come over to Athens the night before the game and paint the Tiger Paw logo on Baxter Street.

Twilb Dawg

August 28th, 2013
9:45 am

GO DAWGS! A great rivalry renewed. 41-17-4

tvradioguy

August 28th, 2013
9:46 am

Wonder why it is considered such a great rivary if UGA has such an overwhelming lead in the series.

PalmettoState

August 28th, 2013
9:50 am

If you Dogs don’t beat Clemson I got not one bit of respect for your team.

SC has pushed their soft ACC tails off the line for 4 past consecutive years and if you’re worth your salt — not to mention your top 5 ranking – you will too!

Go SEC! Kick some Cow Tech butt on Sat.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
9:51 am

BS35 (aka Milk Dud) – Please remember you are in rehab and remain positive for the DAWGS!

YOU CAN DO IT!

Southside Jacket

August 28th, 2013
9:52 am

Dog fans once again are delusional and full of self importance….heard one today 42-14….sorry UGA defense NOT that good….Clempsum wins a close on against UGAG

Stanley Osterhoudt

August 28th, 2013
9:53 am

Was there in 1983, when Clemson came out and the crowding started chanting Dawg Food it was deafening. Sanford was rocking that night.

ARdawg

August 28th, 2013
9:56 am

Huge. I would like to see it renewed more regularly

THEBuckeye

August 28th, 2013
10:02 am

No, don’t remember.

Kevin

August 28th, 2013
10:16 am

tvradio guy at 9:46 am, see the article for why it was such a great rivalry. Bill King clearly tells why – for a period of 10+ years in the 70’s and 80’s, it was one of the very best rivalries in the nation, AS WELL AS one of the biggest games of the year.

Or I could just say, you either weren’t alive back then or weren’t a college football fan. Otherwise, you’d know. I was born in upstate SC and moved to northeast GA in 2nd grade in early 1981. Georgia was national champs. Clemson would become the national champs that year. I lived 40 minutes above Athens and less than 40 from Clemson. I chose to be a Georgia fan as a 7-year old, and therefore, a Clemson hater.
As an adult living back in upstate SC and married to a Clemson grad from a family where EVERYONE graduated from Clemson (and her father was a VP at Clemson), I for one am glad they don’t play more often. We will be in Death Valley Saturday night, which happens to be my birthday. So it’s either going to be a great day for me and a bad day for my wife, or the opposite. And then we get to ride home with one smiling and one not talking!

ARdawg

August 28th, 2013
10:17 am

Buckey
You wouldn’t know about this, it’s a Southern thing

ugafan618

August 28th, 2013
10:22 am

A tech fan grasping for something to hope for against Georgia? Shocker…

I think it’s a great game with both defenses giving up some big plays. In the end, it’s Georgia’s ability to run the ball with 2 proven backs that will make more plays than Clemson will. Georgia wins with a late TD to pull away 38-24.

SimpleDawg

August 28th, 2013
10:22 am

Clempson……Auburn with a lake. Priceless.

It’s EZ2H8Rnge

Desert Fox

August 28th, 2013
10:30 am

The latest edition of this series is going to be a tossup. Both offenses are capable of scoring a ton of points unless either one of the defenses surprises us. I think this game will be decided by turn overs and points scored off turn overs. go you puppies!

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
10:37 am

“No way can anyone kick the ball that far” I said as the ball was set up 2 feet PAST the 50 yard line – actually making it a 61 yard field goal. I was there on the 25 yard line as the ball approached the upright with 11 seconds to go in the 4th – it was good by at least 5 yards.

That was 1984 and I was there as UGA upset then ranked #2 Clempsun 26-23.

A big factor in that game was the heat 100 in the shade. Refrigerator Perry and his brother Michael were 330 lbs plus and anchored the center of Clemsun’s “D”. 300 lb’ers that could actually run was unheard of at the time. The heat and the Dawg’s double teaming OL eventually wore them down and UGA came back from being down 20-6 at the half to dominate the heat exhausted Clempsun DL.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
10:45 am

Lost in all these Clempsun/UGA comparisons is the fact that Clempson lost 75% of their run game when Andre Ellington graduated to the NFL. They also lost their 1st round draft choice WR who was responsible for at least half their pass receptions and TD’s through the air. This Clempson offense is not the same as last years offense.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
10:48 am

This Dawgs defense is much different than last years. Lighter and quicker on the DL and with much more depth though lacking somewhat in experience.

Little Corporal

August 28th, 2013
10:54 am

UGA’s Waterloo!

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
11:02 am

Clemson’s Little Big Horn – and Dabo Custer’s last stand!

ARdawg

August 28th, 2013
11:03 am

Floriduh
You are hurting the haters fantasies with such talk. Clemson didn’t lose anyone, they’ll be playing in mid season form while this is only UGA’s first game and playing with only 3 guys on defense. They have to believe that

Big Crimson 75

August 28th, 2013
11:05 am

Lewis cracked that he hadn’t seen that many tractors since the last time Clemson played in Athens.
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Don’t forget all the redneck flag waving.

Big Crimson 75

August 28th, 2013
11:08 am

This Dawgs defense is much different than last years. Lighter and quicker on the DL and with much more depth though lacking somewhat in experience.
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Rita…So basically what your saying is your front 7 would get mauled by Bama again!!

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
11:11 am

ARdawg – For every UGA “hater” there are two lovers!

DAWG nation is united and strong.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
11:15 am

Big Crimson 75 – It will be Bama’s new OL against Dawg’s new DL.

And you ain’t got your best cheap shot artist Quinton Diahl.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
11:22 am

AS I recall Bama gave up a few yards too. Around 400. Bama’s heart and soul is gone with their OL to the NFL. They also lost a lot on the “D” as did UGA. Every team is different every year. Returning a bunch of starters doesn’t necessarily make you better. UGA has the talent though a little green on defense. Clemson is ACC and UGA is SEC. I’ll go with the SEC.

dawgfan

August 28th, 2013
11:34 am

We’re playing a top 10 team on prime time national television at their place. Can anyone remember the last time we won a game like this? I can’t. I can’t even remember being competive in a game like this recently.

Pago Pago Dawg

August 28th, 2013
11:49 am

Sure wish we could open with Buffalo like Ohio has to do.

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
11:57 am

This one could be a classic. I have no illusions that our defense is going to shut Clemson down, even a really good, veteran defense would have some trouble BUT I still think our D is better than their D and in the end it will be their D’s inability to stop our offense that wins the day.

I think a bunch of points will be scored but it is possible that the final margin could be in the 10 point range. It depends on how quickly our D gets up to speed and of course turnovers.

dawgfan

August 28th, 2013
11:59 am

To answer my own question, it was 2009 Georgia Tech. And we all know what a total fraud they were. Let’s hope Clemson is as equally fraudulent.

Thanks.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
12:05 pm

Can we start a petition to drop that has been program named GT and put Clemson in its spot

Clemson has a great fan base that can fill a college stadium Tech fans cant even fill the Varsity down the street

Im sure one of Techs 65 fans named GT Bob would sign it

ARdawg

August 28th, 2013
12:18 pm

dawgfan
I think Clemson is getting to where they want to go. You gotta like what Dabo is doing there. But, I don’t think they are there yet. Dabo, like Richt isn’t the best x’s and o’s coach but, like Richt is amassing some rich talent and will be atop the ACC. I don’t think they have the horses to stay with Georgia for 4 quarters though. Not really a fruad, just ain’t there yet

Tuck Fech

August 28th, 2013
12:19 pm

I was at the game in ‘84 as a 12 year old. I don’t think anyone in the entire stadium sat down during the second half. I remember the way the whole stadium seemed to shake as Dawgs fans stomped their feet repeatedly on those aluminum bleachers, and the roar that erupted when # 5 nailed that historic FG. What great memories! I’ll settle for that type of finish again (with a UGA win), but I’d much prefer to see the Dawgs win by 24. GATA!!

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
12:23 pm

The last time we faced a Top 10 team to open a season was Ok St in Stillwater 2009. They were #9 at that time. The last Top 10 team we beat on the road was GT in 2009 in Atlanta. They were #7 at the time. That was on ABC in Primetime.

So it’s been 4 years. The counter gets reset Saturday night.

Tide Roll is a Moron

August 28th, 2013
12:25 pm

Tech fans wearing orange this week
Bama fans putting air in the tires on the double wide for road trip
Clemson looking for a defense that can stop the run

They won’t find it

42-27 Georgia

dawgfan

August 28th, 2013
12:35 pm

The game plan should be simple: Gurley, Gurley, and more Gurley with a little bit of Marshall thrown in for a change up. If Bobo tries to get all cutsie I might throw my television out of a window. Our defense needs to stay off the field. Unfortunately, look for Bobo to ignore the manbeast we have at tailback and throw a few unnecessary homerun bombs down field to “loosen them up.” The only thing that should be loosening them up is Gurley’s foot up their you know what’s. They haven’t seen anyone like him and surely won’t again in their chump ACC season.

Just my two cents.

Spanky

August 28th, 2013
12:39 pm

The Braves didn’t clinch the NL West…it was the East in ‘91….Awesome game, though!

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
12:46 pm

Coach Richt does fine with X’s and O’s on the offensive side of the ball. Grantham seems to have scheme but the execution hasn’t been there. The scheme is only as good as the execution and sometimes that is more on the players than the coaches. And sometimes it’s vice versa.

I know alot of people on here fault play calling for some losses and in some cases that is true but if the play is executed the play caller looks like a genius. Also keep in mind that in our system the QB has a great deal of leeway in his checkdowns… they can audible out of the play called so sometimes the play called isn’t what get run. Coach Bobo isn’t going to throw his QB under the bus but that is what happens sometimes.

dawgfan

August 28th, 2013
12:53 pm

And who put the system in place that allows the QB to audible out of a play: Bobo. He is ultimately responsible for coordinating the offense is he not? I’m pretty sure that’s his job description. Anyway you slice it, Bobo is the only one that should get thrown under the bus.

Thanks.

OldDawg

August 28th, 2013
12:55 pm

The three things that will determine the outcome of this game: Special teams. Special teams. Special teams.

Mobile Dawg

August 28th, 2013
12:56 pm

Thanks for another trip down memory lane Bill….This is big, I would love to see the running game of Georgia totally dominate this contest keeping Boyd off the field. But if I know Richt and Bobo that won’t happen. One of the goals of our OC should be to keep the defense on the sideline, well rested.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
1:06 pm

NCDawg

Really?? So its the players fault

ok

Just like it was Staffords fault we didnt win big and now Murray

I just love how when the coaching staff is called out its always you’re a fair weather fan or you need to find another team to pull

but its always perfectly fine to blame the players :roll:

13 years and we are still faulting the players; any wonder why this program consistently looses 2 or more ballgames every year

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
1:08 pm

Olddawg

when has Richt ever emphasized special teams?

Paul

August 28th, 2013
1:12 pm

Spanky, it was the NL West in 1991. The Braves beat out the Dodgers by a game. Sanford Stadium did the chop and chant when it was announced. Then the Dawgs beat Clemson. Pretty much a perfect, memorable day.

JB

August 28th, 2013
1:12 pm

Haters on here come Monday:
Dawgs Win: Hell, it’s Clemson. Ya’ll ain’t beat nobody
Clemson wins: Hell, y’all let a little ole ACC team beat you guys.

GEEZ

Granthams The Man!

August 28th, 2013
1:12 pm

Aaron Murray, Todd Gurley and Keith Marshall are going to have a big night in Death Valley.

The Dawgs Defense blows a couple of assignments for big plays but they show their potential and keep the Tigers potent offense under 31 points.

Georgia wins by 7-17 points and are on their way. Go Dawgs!!!

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
1:14 pm

Don’t bite NCDawg, dude has come up with some new shtick about blaming players now. If a guy wants to be angry and defeated 3 days before the season starts, let him.

rockinreel

August 28th, 2013
1:16 pm

For you youngsters, the rivalry was big when these two teams won NCAA championships in back to back years. Not because GA had the edge in head to head match-ups since Moby Dick was a minnow.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
1:24 pm

Altamaha

Look who just bit

Oh and yea you are right no one ever comes on these blogs and blames Murray or the players such as last years defense being a bunch prima donna’s on almost a daily basis right??

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
1:32 pm

yea….. the stadium did the chop that day, that was pretty cool. I had tickets to the braves on Sunday. I can’t say I was hoping they would lose just one more, but suffice it to say, they didn’t roll out the big boys after clinching.

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
1:34 pm

No I think I plenty of idiots say things like that. Why are you worried about them? You’re whining to the wrong group in here.

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
1:36 pm

Some people can discuss football, what goes right or wrong, and not turn it into an obsession on where to lay “blame”.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
1:44 pm

Some people cant handle reality either

dudemankind

August 28th, 2013
1:44 pm

I think that both defenses will likely come out flat. Probably looking at high 20’s on the scoreboard, not some of these huge scores in the 40’s that some are saying.

bham dawg

August 28th, 2013
1:51 pm

@Flat Tire… in the early 2000’s under richt our special teams were pretty damn good. You are correct though recently it just doesn’t seem to be a priority. We feel good about our offense so we just don’t want to make a bone headed play and create turnovers. On the flip side you are you don’t get many electric plays.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
1:54 pm

Some people just make excuses

dawgfan

August 28th, 2013
1:54 pm

Altamaha is so upset that we are criticizing his coaches that he fails to see that he is only proving your point. NCDawg implicitly blames Murray’s audibles for offensive woes and Altamaha says nothing. In fact, it doesn’t even seem to have registered with him that that’s what NCDawg did. Then you start blaming Bobo and he comes out of the woodwork with one of his usual lectures about how stupid, naive, and pointless it is to lay any blame on our brilliant coaching staff. It’s okay to criticize the players. That’s not “negative” at all. But criticize the coaches and you’ve crossed a line.

True story.

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
1:55 pm

Good God… what on earth are you talking about? I’m not Blaming players… I am saying that sometimes that is what happens. It works in our favor too. It’s there because no coach can call a play and KNOW what the defense is going to do… NO ONE can. The QB makes a read based on what the defense is showing him and then the play is run. Sometimes they see something that isn’t there… it happens to the BEST of them. Nobody talks about it because they aren’t in the finger pointing business.

Can’t you see how you twist things around because your mindset is screwed up?

Bottom line – the blame game is fruitless. You win as a team, you lose as a team. Each win or loss is a collective effort. Blaming on 1 portion of that whole ONLY is at best ill considered.

How the hell you came up with the blame the players angle I don’t know… it probably comes from the same place that your perpetual doom and gloom outlook comes from. A twisted perception of REALITY. Attitude effects more than just yourself.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
2:00 pm

bham dawg

Special teams can win you 2 ball games and usually its the big games where special teams come in to play

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
2:00 pm

wow dawgfan

when you have to resort of putting words in other people’s mouths, over exaggerating their position JUST to win some argument that you made up, that’s pretty embarrassing.

dawgfan

August 28th, 2013
2:02 pm

I guess when coaches get fired for failing to perform the entire team should get the boot too because its a “collective effort” and the blame game is pointless.

There’s a radical new concept for ya folks.

bham dawg

August 28th, 2013
2:08 pm

Flat Tire… I agree with you, but it can also lose you a game or two. Its goes both ways. With the type of play makers we have though i wish we would take more chances.

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
2:09 pm

I am perfectly comfortable with the “reality” that my favorite college football team is not going to defy history and will lose about 20% of the time. I’ve somehow been able to wrestle with that reality, and factor that into my life’s plan.

I outgrew the make believe act of pretending to be overly upset about it make myself look awesome. I figure out I wasn’t fooling anybody with that one about 3 decades ago. You will too.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
2:10 pm

NC Dawg

Doom and gloom????

So consistently losing 2 or more ball games every single year with more talent in the SEC is called doom and gloom;

what its called is reality or another term for it would be facing the music

Living in the world of reality has nothing to do with attitude

And yes I have found it real comical that when certain players names are thrown out there for reasons why this team has underperformed all I seem to hear is crickets chirping from the same crowd who will spend days on here defending a bunch of coaches

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
2:10 pm

dawgfan when you get finished with your little hissy fit, the rest of us will continue to have a discussion. Right now, some child is making a fool of himself. We’ll wait.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
2:12 pm

bham dawg

Yes I would venture to say special teams will lose you more games than winning with it due to field position and missed field goals

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
2:18 pm

Altamaha

hence why this program with the amount of talent that continues to come through here under performs in big games and loses games it shouldnt and of course loses 2 or more ball games every year

But hey I love hearing about 1980 and watching Walker run over Bill Bates for 26,000th time even though he had more spectacular runs than that one

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
2:18 pm

NCdawg, I guess you and I can just sit and watch. These boys seem to be the experts on our opinions and what we “really” meant. No need to actually post anything. they can just tell us what we think.

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
2:19 pm

So you are saying , you don’t care what happened before you were born?

WDE

August 28th, 2013
2:22 pm

My my its game week…..I just love saying that…

bham dawg

August 28th, 2013
2:22 pm

Flat tire… if you are talking about specialist alone i would say UGA is near or at the top of that category under Richt. We always have had great place kickers and punters.

PigIron

August 28th, 2013
2:35 pm

@NCDawg

Nobody on this blog wants to discuss football.

If you aren’t debating Flat Tire and Altamaha’s opinions, then you may as well just shut down your web browser and go fishing.

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
2:35 pm

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.
August 28th, 2013
2:10 pm

A simple test : Half Full or Half Empty?

Attitude everything because it effects perception and the way you SEE reality. Ask the gurus of motivational speaking. I didn’t invent this concept… it IS reality.

How come our forefathers were far poorer monetarily and materially than even the poorest in our nation today yet were able to survive and thrive? How did this dirt poor people conquer a continent? Attitude. They persisted and belived and overcame. They altered their reality.

Lesson over.

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
2:36 pm

belived = believed… damned fingers.

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
2:42 pm

PigIron
August 28th, 2013
2:35 pm

I’m afraid you are probably right. I guess I’ll just have to go through my life and accept the fact that I am delusional because I don’t flush every new season down the toilet before it even begins.

Seasons over… no point in playing the games… the Prophets have spoken.

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
2:51 pm

well, you could tell us for the ninth time how Mark Richt doesn’t care about penalties.

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
2:56 pm

here another simple test::

let’s suppose that the UGA football players were to read every bodies post over of the years and guess who THEY would think has got their best interest at heart.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
2:57 pm

before I was born???

chuckle

Are we going to do this again

Or did I mess up 1980 movie night for ya

I think you know I was born before the 80’s

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
3:02 pm

BTW piglron, for a guy who always says he talks about football, you basically make a few banal points points here and there, but none of it has much meat on the bone, as far as “football” . Your talking about football seems to get back around to what’s wrong with Georgia fans, more time than not.

So, what simplistic point that this is a big game for us, would you like to add here?

Mobile Dawg

August 28th, 2013
3:02 pm

Nobody’s throwing the season away NCDawg, just people defending their point of vew, to extreme I might add. Like I said before, sometime you have to agree to disagree. Some folks are just more passionate, emotional, than others, like Flat Tire. Altamaha has an even keel, up or down. I lean more to the side of having not really been a Richt fan since his hire. I still think he inherited a strong team and benefited from that his first few years. Once his system, players, attitude, personality, imbedded itself in the program the results started fading. Finally about three years ago he realized what had happened and started taking steps to correct it. I fault him for that and it still sticks in my craw. This year and this may be premature, we haven’t heard of the discipline issues, bad attitudes, and “me” type players, i.e. Isiah Crowell, and some of the others that were run off.

I think this year we will see a group of kids having fun, with some real leaders showing up from within the player ranks. I think Richt has the “team” headed in a good direction with the “right’ type of players. That said, I still don’t see eye to eye with Mark Richt, “I” don’t think his coaching style is the best for a college team, but it’s who he is, it’s what he believes in, and it fits his personality. I also don’t think as x’s and o’s go that he and Bobo use the talent they have to achieve the true arsenal they have.

We’re all Dawg fans and supporters, we just show it in different ways, obviously excluding trolls and idiots.

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
3:04 pm

no, to be honest I thought you were about 30.

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
3:05 pm

I’ve had to take on a lot of ballast over the years to even my keel out.

Mobile Dawg

August 28th, 2013
3:09 pm

Would have to agree, adding a few years, and a few Grandchildren, all while raising a 6 year old of my own has calmed me down a notch or two.

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
3:18 pm

hmm, trying to figure that one out…… God bless you.

DawgNight

August 28th, 2013
3:18 pm

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
3:21 pm

BTW, that’s a trick question NC. The glass is always full. even if 1/2 of it is air.

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
3:24 pm

Boss Bailey-esque right there.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

August 28th, 2013
3:42 pm

I was there in 2003 – clemson fans were just sitting there, quiet as UGA rolled on them 30-0. 10 years later, hoping for a repeat!!! Don’t think it’ll be a shutout by any means, but as long as we get the W!!!

Old Guy

August 28th, 2013
4:36 pm

Old Guy

August 28th, 2013
4:41 pm

Also, from the same collection, UGA v. Clemson 10/08/1937-

http://dlg.galileo.usg.edu/news/id:wsbn39240

Rermarkable

August 28th, 2013
4:49 pm

That win list sounds like the old joke about the tour guide for Confederate Battle Grounds who only told about the Confederate wins. One Yankee asked, “Didn’t the North win any of these battles?” The tour guide said, “Not while I’m driving this bus they didn’t.”
I guess it’s “Not while I’m writing this column.”

Get ready boys cause it’s going to be a tough fight.
Go Dawgs!

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
5:08 pm

Any team we beat that wears orange is a great win

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
5:27 pm

And from what they are saying that Floyd is in some ways even better. “Well, not just speed, nose guard Mike Thornton said. “Speed, aggressiveness, power, everything,” he said. “He’s all over the place, man. He just flies around. He likes to play ball.”

Wow… imagine it coming at you from both sides. Run for your life!

Check out what Jenkins said about Floyd: “He’s a future playmaker,” Jenkins said. “He’s got a lot of skill sets I don’t have and he forces me to work to keep up with him sometimes. He’s a hungry guy. He practices hard non-stop. He’s a fun guy to watch.”

AltamahaDawg

August 28th, 2013
5:29 pm

Garnet is just soiled orange.

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
5:33 pm

I can’t wait to see these guys in action… January til August is like hell for me ( well that might be a little over the top). Where is the fast forward button!?

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
5:34 pm

That’s a stretch Altamaha… LOL

Bill King

August 28th, 2013
6:08 pm

Spanky: Braves were indeed the NL West champs in ‘91, not NL East.
Check it out:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/1991.shtml

JoJo

August 28th, 2013
6:14 pm

I see big day for offense, Murray, Gurley, Marshall and Malcolm Mitchell. And a surprising defense that really GATA.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
6:18 pm

I got a feeling we win by 14

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
7:21 pm

I was doing my own scouting by watching the bowl game with LSU. Clemson fumbled on the 2nd play of the game ( Mingo blew up Sammy Watkins and knocked him out of the game). 2 runs later 7 -0 LSU. Clemson looked outmanned big time.

I’m wondering if LSU just thought after that they could just throw their jockstraps out there and win. They looked plenty motivated at the beginning of the game folks. I think they thought they didn’t have to work to win. I’m going to keep watching and see where the tide shifted.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
7:28 pm

After the 1st qtr LSU looked like they were ready to head back to baton rouge; they acted like they didnt really care

With our offense and a half decent performance from our defense I think we should win by10-14 points

Skokie Dog

August 28th, 2013
7:38 pm

I know that some of you who post here don’t like to consider history when it doesn’t conform to your perspective, but here’s a statistic that appeared earlier this week at onlineathens.com, and it concerns me. Georgia’s record is 3-11 in games for which ESPN GameDay was staged in the host city where U.Ga. was one of the teams playing there. That’s indicative of the poor showing in so-called “big games” in recent years that some of us have noticed. Ignore it if you wish. I’m aware that this is a new season.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
7:53 pm

Skokie

Now you know you are not allowed to post facts on these blogs

DawgNole

August 28th, 2013
7:54 pm

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.
August 28th, 2013
12:05 pm

Can we start a petition to drop that has been program named GT and put Clemson in its spot
________________________

I’d much rather drop App St, North Texas, Coastal Carolina, New Mexico St, La-Lafayette, Idaho St, Tenn Tech, Central Mich, Western Carolina, Troy, Buffalo, Fla Atlantic, Ga Southern, Western Ky, UAB, blah blah blah.

Bulldawg35

August 28th, 2013
8:02 pm

Top ten reasons UGA will lose this sat!

1. Connor starting safety

2. JHC suspended

3. Richt feels sorry for Dabo

4. Chad Morris is better than bobo

5.venables better than Grantham

6.clemson is at home!

7. Langley at one corner

8. Swann unproven

9. Rump not playing

10. Murray’s turnovers

Thanks everybody!

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
8:04 pm

Clemson’s tendency on defense last year was to stack the box to stop the run and their weakness was actually against the pass.

The decision to pass or run will depend on the defensive formations. UGA will not try to run against an eight man line.

Ironically special teams was the one area where UGA was better than Bama in the SEC champ game.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
8:13 pm

BS35 (aka Milk Dud) – Did you escape from the padded room at rehab again?

I see you have gone off the wagon in to negativism. Shall I have them pick you up?

Upset Alert: Temple over Notre Dame.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
8:16 pm

Pulling for Carolina thursday night – North Carolina that is!

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
8:16 pm

Clemson runs a spread and it looks like just about like any other spread except they don’t run it as much and use shorter passes. Boyd took a beating and was still hanging in there. He does wind up when throwing on the run I noticed. When we have him in the pocket we cannot miss and break containment. That is when he is most effective. Bottle him up and get in his face.

They are supposedly have a waterbug that they are going to start at RB. A small, quick guy. I doubt they will try any power runs.

Skokie Dog

August 28th, 2013
8:20 pm

@DawgNole: Amen to that suggestion. An annual game versus Clemson would be preferable to an annual matchup with Northwest Cupcake State Teacher’s College or a similar school’s team. It’s even possible that more fans would show up for the game featuring a real opponent. Even with a schedule featuring nine SEC opponents, replacing a cupcake with a legitimate opponent would be feasible. I’m aware that we’d lose a home game in some years if we scheduled home and home games with credible opponents, and that means lower profits in those seasons. Improving the strength of out-of-conference schedule could even make the U.Ga. players and coaches look better if they won those games.

Buzz-off

August 28th, 2013
8:32 pm

NCDawg@12:23

I think we beat the #2 BCS team last season on-the-road in Jacksonville. Go DAWGS!!!

DawgNole

August 28th, 2013
8:36 pm

You’re on the money, Skokie. I mean, compare the hype, excitement, stakes, exposure, and everything else with Clemson as our opening game vs last year’s Buffalo debacle. Hell, the major-network TV money that you get with a quality OOC opponent goes a long way toward offsetting the loss of home-game revenue with a marshmallow–in which empty seats abound AND you pay them a million bucks.

Just hoping this upcoming playoff format will “encourage” FBS teams to at least slow down the parade of OOC weaklings.

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
8:36 pm

I check onlineathens everyday and I missed that one Skokie. Did they give a time frame for the statistic? There is no doubt that they have played poorly in big games in recent years. My hope is the trend started in Jacksonville, when against all hope really, the defense showed up and we put a 2X4 between the Gators’ eyes and the gutsy performance in the SEC CG. Yes, the defense was steamrolled but they did get a stop when they had to and gave the offense that opportunity at the end.

These things come down to mindset. My Dad told me when I was knee high to a grasshopper that you don’t ever enter a fight you don’t believe you will win. He wasn’t talking about chickening out and running, he was saying that you must believe you will win or the fight is over before it starts. This is where the Gator thing got the Dogs in the past… they were mind F’d before they ever took the field.

The doubt must be expunged and cold confidence must be all that you feel. Not arrogance, that is easily shattered… cold, hard, confidence. The SEC CG is the first time in a LONG time I thought the Dogs looked confident against an quality opponent. They played pretty well… the D just succumbed to a lack of depth exacerbated by a technical flaw in the D-line phiosophy.

The first 2 or 3 series will tell the tale on Saturday. If the defense looks mildly competent and the offense is looking even pretty good then it should be a victory.. not a romp but a solid win.

Bulldawg35

August 28th, 2013
8:37 pm

Flo- duhhhhhhhduhhhhh

Would you stop it with the temple over Notre dame! It’s a foolish prediction! Geez!

Bulldawg35

August 28th, 2013
8:43 pm

Richt please beat Clemson!

Beat Clemson

Beat Clemson

Beat Clemson

I’m nerves are tangled up in barb wire! I have acid reflux in my stomach….I can’t sleep or hardly eat. If we don’t beat Clemson…..I’m going to blow the head gasket in my car…..dang it!

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
8:45 pm

DawgNole

While I agree with wanting to replace those games you pretty much cancel an SEC team out of the national title picture cause there will be a much higher chance for 2 or more losses

would you rather watch a team from the Big Joke 10 play for the national title every year or the Pac 12 cause they wont have any problems making it with the easy schedules they play

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
8:48 pm

Yeah I know, I left out UF last year because I knew it would be discounted because it is technically not a road game. (BS)

Preseason rankings are horse crap… Clemson may or may not be worthy of a #8 ranking. I guess we’ll see Saturday night

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
8:50 pm

It’s eating my posts again… man that is aggrevating

Bulldawg35

August 28th, 2013
8:59 pm

What a shame and a night filled with horror when we lose to Clemson!

DawgNole

August 28th, 2013
9:12 pm

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.
August 28th, 2013
8:45 pm
DawgNole
While I agree with wanting to replace those games you pretty much cancel an SEC team out of the national title picture cause there will be a much higher chance for 2 or more losses
would you rather watch a team from the Big Joke 10 play for the national title every year or the Pac 12 cause they wont have any problems making it with the easy schedules they play
________________________

I’m not just singling out UGA. NO FBS team has any business playing the garbage OOC teams they typically schedule. Such games benefit NOBODY. Fans hate them, rankings suffer, a win proves nothing, a loss is devastating, no TV, no respect.

Are you saying you’d prefer to play those creampuffs I noted (all UGA opponents) than Clemson? If so, you’re a coward. To be the best, you must play the best–or at least not play the worst, which is what UGA and most FBS teams do every chance they get.

A good step in the right direction would be to go to 9 conference games, which would reduce by 1 the “opportunity” to schedule yet another middle school team and pay them a million bucks to come to our place and bend over. Even with 9 SEC games, there’s still room for a traditional rival, a decent OOC opponent, and a softie.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
9:17 pm

BS35 (aka Milk Dud) – Take a deep breath and relax. Quit being so negative. You gotta have HEART!

I have no doubt that Temple will upset Notre Dame – NONE.

Dawgs are a 2 point favorite in Vegas – take it to the bank.

As for Boyd the best thing to do is to force him to his left where he is not nearly as accurate throwing the ball. I can see the Dawgs getting at least two turnovers in this game.

HotDawg

August 28th, 2013
9:33 pm

I was at that 60 yard, Kevin Butler field goal game. In fact, i saw the ball sail through the uprights as I was right up on one of the sidelines of that goalpost. The kick went well over 70 yards.
As it went through, the entire stadium shook as the crowd went nuts. It was THE loudest I, and many others have said, have ever heard Sanford Stadium.And that is saying a lot. Everybody was hugging everyone around them. A fantastic day and night in Athens. Serious goosebumps.

Bulldog Guss

August 28th, 2013
10:27 pm

Do you hear that sound??? It’s that ROARING BULLDOG TRAIN whistle pulling into Auburn with a lake, um, I mean Clemson. Little Tigers pick your poison, put 9 in the box or play with 5 DB’s. Doesn’t matter. DOGS win impressively. We gonna eat chicken next Saturday.

Eddie...Lee...and..Ivory...

August 28th, 2013
11:50 pm

BigCrimson75…..Biggest Troll here since my boy, GTBob! Buckeye that is 2nd troll in line has left UF w/ Urban after Timmys hugs vanished… NCDawg(for years) has complained of his posts being compromised besides owning up to the fact that his Tar Heels have another sight that may have 4 followers w/ that South Carolina game looming.

Eddie...Lee...and..Ivory...

August 28th, 2013
11:56 pm

And ” Flat Tire on 75″ has suddenly transmorphed into some “delusional” poster….Prob a Tech boy……anyways

Eddie...Lee...and..Ivory...

August 29th, 2013
12:08 am

And Flo-ri_dah u may ask……bout the most sane blogger on the 15 newspaper blogs I read daily!

Go Jackets!

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
6:22 am

I’m not nearly as offended by playing even one cupcake team as some but I will say this: when you have to scramble to schedule 3 OOC team (plus a rivalry) the pickings as just slim, too often. One thing a 9 game SEC schedule does for us, 2 lessor teams is not as difficult to arrange.. That third one, DirectionalU is the one that gives the entire schedule a questionable look..

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
6:32 am

It pretty realistic to think that we control what everybody else does to the point that we could schedule FOUR really good OOC teams every year though. Playing a cupcake is just part of a 12 game schedule. and decent team is going to need a return game, and getting all that worked out years in advance, and neither of the parties(x4) needing to reschedule is just not going to happen.

Keep in mind that the league office is the one controlling the weekends we HAVE to play. How could Mcgarity possible go out and get quality opponents, when he hasn’t even known the conference schedule till a year out. Oklahoma State(s) is not sitting out there waiting for the call to play us, whenever we say.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
6:33 am

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
6:34 am

HotDawg
August 28th, 2013
9:33 pm
I was at that 60 yard, Kevin Butler field goal game. In fact, i saw the ball sail through the uprights as I was right up on one of the sidelines of that goalpost. The kick went well over 70 yards . . . .
____________________________

Had to listen to that one on the radio. No TV for virtually every game back then. That’s about the only thing we can thank espn for–that most games now are viewable to those of us who can’t always make it to the stadiums.

Butler’s 60-yarder reminds me of a 70-yarder he ALMOST made in the ‘84 Citrus Bowl against the Noles. It was near the end of the game, which was tied, and his aim was dead on, but the ball fell a yard short–so the final score stayed at 17-17. Now THAT one I did get to see on the tube–it being a bowl game and all.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
6:40 am

for example, we knew THIS schedule a little more than a year ago. Who do you suggest we play other than N Texas, in between SC and LSU. Assuming you don’t think the team really needs that break (and I bet nobody is truly going to want a tougher game right there when it gets here), who would have had week 4 sitting open waiting for us to call? nobody. N.Texas probably had to shuffle to around NW Texas to make it.

fan

August 29th, 2013
7:23 am

The question for the dawgs this season is. Can aaron Murray overcome todd grantham?
Probably not. Peyton Manning couldn’t!

why yeah

August 29th, 2013
7:32 am

that 2002 Georgia/Clemson game was the first UGA I ever attended. My brother went to UGA and managed to get me a ticket for my 21st birthday. I can’t frickin wait til Saturday. Go Dawgs!!

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 29th, 2013
7:56 am

DawgNole

Before almost calling someone a coward read what I said, “While I agree with wanting to replace those games”

Again Im all for playing 9 conference games but you are falling in the hate the SEC trap by the biased northern media; the same media that for years tried their best to keep southern teams out playing national title games

Have you taken a look at the teams that make up the Big 10 if you havent do so sometime and you realize why Ohio St and Michigan have won 79 conference championships between the 2 of them

I mean I remember how FL had no chance against Ohio St in the national title game and that they really shouldnt be there was the cry from many in the media

The same can be said about the Pac 12 USC has won 38 conference championships
The Big 12 has always been just Texas and Oklahoma who have combined to win 75 conference titles

Now go take a look at the SEC no one is running away with conference titles that ought to tell you just how hard it is to go undefeated in this league

So when you add another conference game then add other OOC tough schools make no mistake the SEC will have a much hard time than those from those other conferences

While the SEC isnt always good they pretty much are most of the time just take a look at the amount of National Titles and bowl wins they lead by a good margin in both categories

NCDawg

August 29th, 2013
7:59 am

Scheduling is such a strange thing in college football. For some reason most fans think the coaches do the schedules. They don’t and they really have very little, if any, input. The AD is at the mercy of the conference schedule and lately there hasn’t been any consistency in that at all. No one has known for 2 or 3 seasons what the conference schedule was going to be until it came out. It wasn’t like a few years back when you knew that XX was your next rotational opponent from the other division.

The AD’s have a tough task… they really don’t know when they can schedule games until that conference slate is revealed and then it’s a scramble to get teams to fill those slots. There is also the FBS schools version of corporate welfare… scheduling cupcakes.

Many if not all these schools depend on getting a couple of games with the big boys to keep their programs afloat. The FBS school gets 2 things… a breather and an easy win. The FCS team get the experience of playing against top notch competition and tons of money. The 800K to 900K they get from this arrangement is probably more than their total home schedule brings in in any given season. Those schools dry up and blow away without it. So the FBS schools feel somewhat obligated to do this.

I think 1 cupcake per year would be enough. But then again some teams get their cupcakes playing within their conference… you know who we are talking about. SoS in the new playoff formula would be a good deterrent to schools loading up on FCS cupcakes. maybe if they setup the formula to throw out 1 FCS school only, it would curb the urge to pad the schedule with easy wins.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 29th, 2013
8:09 am

Eddie… Lee… And.. Ivory… (12:08 a.m.) – FINALLY! Some recognition for the genius I am. Thanks – that was SWEET!.

BS35 (aka Milk Dud) – I’m still going with Temple over the over rated Notre Dame … bet the house, car, dog, etc….. It’s gonna happen!

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 29th, 2013
8:13 am

NCDawg

I agree but remember The Big 10 would love more than ever just to add more games within their conference and then claim oh we played a tough schedule which would be a laughable joke

UGA Insider

August 29th, 2013
8:18 am

I have never seen a college QB complete a pass when he was on his ass looking up.

UGA 45
Clemson 17

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 29th, 2013
8:30 am

Hot Dawg – I was at the ‘84 Clempsun/UGA game in Athens also.. what a Rushhhhhhhh! The most exciting game I ever saw between the hedges. Butler’s kick was actually 60 yards and 2 feet as it was lined up past the fifty yard line (with 11 seconds left in the game!). What many have failed to realize was that at the time Clempsum was ranked #2 in the nation. UGA came from behind 20-6 at the half. Had to be a 8+ on the Richter Scale when the ball passed over the cross bar and you could actually feel the stadium swaying! Thought the place might cave in.

It was extremely hot (100 degrees) and a day game. The most famous athlete on the field was Refrigerator Perry (DT) and around 330 lbs and his “little” brother Michael (DT) another 300 lb’er. UGA’s double teams and the heat got to the “Frige” in the 2nd half and that’s when UGA made their come back. The heat was a definite factor in favor of the Dawgs on that day.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 29th, 2013
8:33 am

Eddie Lee Ivory (RB – All American at Tech) – Now that’s a name from the past…. great athlete even if he went to Tech!

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 29th, 2013
8:42 am

At one time the regular season was 10 games and there was no SEC champ game.

That is the main reason why even Bama plays people like Georgia State. A much longer schedule naturally results in more injuries and actually fewer players now because there was not always a limit of 85 scholarships.

Many of you on here never played football… no knock on you but these guys have a very long and physical season and they still have to go to class and make their grades. So you can have a shorter schedule with all D1 teams or a watered down schedule with more games and more money for the schools. That’s what it is all about today unfortunately – the $$$$$$$$.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 29th, 2013
8:46 am

I have the patent rights on the Nick Saban yard gnome ( Nick gets his cut of course)….. my Dawg loves hosing down Nick. GOOD DAWG!

Sales are booming!

Todd44dawg

August 29th, 2013
8:50 am

Uga by a landslide. Aaaron Murray will put on a clinic. Gurley and Marshall will get 100yds a piece. Clemson has a weak defense and will not be able to handle our receiving corp.

I-DOG

August 29th, 2013
8:58 am

Are Dez Bryant and AJ Green going to file suit against the NCAA? How can Manzel get a half a game suspension (against a cupcake no less). If he did nothing wrong, he should not get ANY suspension. If he did take money for the signatures then this penalty is laughable. How does AJ get a penalty that is 8 times as steep (really more than that since AJ missed real opponents) for selling a single jersey and Dez Bryant got hit with 20 times the penalty for having lunch with D. Sanders.

I like watching Manzel play so I am glad he gets to play this season for purely selfish reasons… but the penalty makes no sense. If he did nothing, how can he be penalized. If he did take money, how can it be a half a game? Whatever credibility the NCAA had left is gone. Time to start over and dissolve this entity

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
9:07 am

The winner of the SECCG is always going to be in the top 4 rankings, no matter what OOC game they play.

On the extremely rare occasion that a SEC champ is trailing in 5th place by whatever fraction of a percent that computer power rankings hold, we probably had a couple of 2 loss teams vying for the title anyway, so maybe that’s just not our year.

Mobile Dawg

August 29th, 2013
9:16 am

The talking heads were talking Clemson up last night, but then 3 out of 4 picked the Dawgs.

NCDawg

August 29th, 2013
9:50 am

It will be very interesting to see what type of selection committee is put together and what criterion they will be using. I doubt they will use ranking or if they do the weighting of that part in the formula will be decreased. I’d love an RPI like structure with a very set criterion of how it is weighted. That would be better than a beauty contest.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
9:56 am

at the risk of being called a NCAA Homer, I sort of see what they did as best case.

The penalty as I understand it is because he “should have known” better than get himself in an awkward position. So basically its a deterrent to future players…….. be careful signing auotgraphs.

3 points:

–if they can’t Prove her cashed a check, they cant prove it. How can they suspend him for 4 games or such?
–they do need to make some statement about this kind of thing, though, however silly half game is
–If you were Manziel/TAMU, wouldn’t you not have jumped on this to be done with it.

It’s complete BS but I’m not sure it could have really gone any other way.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
10:01 am

And AJ Greene sold a NCAA sponsored item for profit and cashed a check into his account. He’s got no grounds to be suing about.

If……. other people did it, we all know they did, but you just couldn’t prove it……… was his case, that’s been there for him all this time.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
10:01 am

Green, he’s not David’s bother , I know.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
10:04 am

I saw Payton Manning complete a pass off of his backside looking up, against us one year.

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
10:57 am

Flat Tire, I said IF (IF, IF) you’d rather play those cupcakes than Clemson, then you’re a coward. If you understand why it’s FAR better for our program to play decent OOC competition than the garbage we drag in here year after year, then we have no disagreement.

I know about media bias and the always-overrated Big 10, Big 12, and Pac 12. NONE of that changes the fact that ALL FBS teams (not just UGA) should put a stop to literally buying Ws, and instead earn their respect on the field.

If we’re not good enough to beat Clemson (or any other decent OOC team), then that’s on us–and we need to get better, regardless of what other teams are doing. And if we ARE good enough to beat them, then the results will show up loudly and clearly in the form of respect and rankings from those who matter.

Mobile Dawg

August 29th, 2013
11:44 am

Only two cupcakes on the schedule, sandwiched between traditionally good teams. Don’t know why anyone would have a problem with that.

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
11:59 am

AltamahaDawg
August 29th, 2013
6:40 am
for example, we knew THIS schedule a little more than a year ago. Who do you suggest we play other than N Texas, in between SC and LSU. Assuming you don’t think the team really needs that break (and I bet nobody is truly going to want a tougher game right there when it gets here), who would have had week 4 sitting open waiting for us to call? nobody. N.Texas probably had to shuffle to around NW Texas to make it.
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You’re focusing on this year’s schedule alone. The immoral, albeit legal, practice of FBS teams buying wins has been going on for decades, and it’s way past time for it to stop. Can’t be done in one year, but it CAN be done.

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
12:03 pm

NCDawg
August 29th, 2013
7:59 am
. . . The AD’s have a tough task… they really don’t know when they can schedule games until that conference slate is revealed and then it’s a scramble to get teams to fill those slots. There is also the FBS schools version of corporate welfare… scheduling cupcakes.
Many if not all these schools depend on getting a couple of games with the big boys to keep their programs afloat. The FBS school gets 2 things… a breather and an easy win. The FCS team get the experience of playing against top notch competition and tons of money. The 800K to 900K they get from this arrangement is probably more than their total home schedule brings in in any given season. Those schools dry up and blow away without it. So the FBS schools feel somewhat obligated to do this.
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There is NO obligation whatsoever for FBS teams to support FCS teams that are struggling financially. That’s no more than a weak-azz excuse for continuing to perpetuate the problem, which is allowing FBS teams to BUY victories.

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
12:08 pm

Mobile Dawg
August 29th, 2013
11:44 am
Only two cupcakes on the schedule, sandwiched between traditionally good teams. Don’t know why anyone would have a problem with that.
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Because the overwhelming majority of the games are lopsided, boring, and MEANINGLESS, and there is NOTHING to be gained (and EVERYTHING to lose) by playing them–except for a hollow W on the record book. Don’t know why anyone would have a problem understanding that.

Mobile Dawg

August 29th, 2013
1:21 pm

Nothing to be gained except to rest and rehab the regulars, and give the younger, less experienced players some playing time. Sorry I disappoint you Nole.

Eddie...Lee...and..Ivory...

August 29th, 2013
1:32 pm

FLO>>>>Give you praise and very next post for you: “Owls over ND”..LMFAO….Seriously considering to renege on my statement.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
1:47 pm

nothing to be gained, but not having to announce that the University of Georgia is having an 11 game schedule because they simply could not book a “good team” with 8 months notice and gave up rather than disappoint the fans with a less than stellar opponent.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
1:50 pm

I also think the categorization of: very little to gain , and next to zero change of anything to lose, is a lot more accurate.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
2:04 pm

Are you saying that THIS schedule is fine, but overall, hypothetically, you want to see better OOC games? I focused on this year, (and recent years) OOC because you specifically mentioned them by name.

As far as historically this being the same deal, when the schedule was 10, even 11, this was not nearly an issue. I don’t think I heard ANYbody complain about 1 cupcake.

It’s only recently in a 12 game regular season, then a CG, that this has forced that Extra cupcake issue.

Given that the SEC schedule has been in flux now for about 4 yrs, and will be for at least a couple more, THIS is the reality. Nobody is disputing that the better the opponent, the better the game. There’s just some undeniable factors at play. Philosophy is not even driving it right now.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
2:13 pm

and I CERTAINLY am not one to defend flat tire but he never suggested playing North Texas instead of Clemson. You can’t suggest that he might bea coward for words you put in his mouth.

We are playing N Texas. BECAUSAE we are playing Clemson, not instead of. We have never played 3 North Texas’ in one year. But you are suggesting that we play GT and then 3 teams the caliber of Clemson, on top of an SEC schedule. I would be willing to bet if that were in your power, if that fell on your shoulders, that is not what you would do either.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
2:26 pm

We have ALWAYS played 2 quality OOC games and one cupcake, There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Then 2 because of the 12th game, which has been impossible to find anybody decent in the past few years because of our SEC headquarters.

That will either settle down and we can book further out, or the 9th SEC game will take it out.

The lone exception was last year when we had to scramble up Buffalo to replace Louisville. And we got out of that TO be able to play this Clemson series.

ARdawg

August 29th, 2013
2:54 pm

If it were up to me, there would be no cupcakes on the schedule. I’ve always found those to be a beauty contest rather than a football game. Coaches love cupcakes especially on the top end of the schedule. The more they have, the more “do overs” they get. I get that part but, as a fan IMO, we’re short changed.

That said, I am a fan of the quality OOC games. They are usually a good yardstick of where the program is on the national scale. Even if as early as the Clemson game. High expectations, high energy and excitement early in the year is a great thing if your winning, kind of a bummer if your not

Mobile Dawg

August 29th, 2013
2:57 pm

Let’s hope we’re a better prepared team than we were against Boise St, another one of those would, well, let’s just not talk about it.

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
3:16 pm

Mobile Dawg
August 29th, 2013
1:21 pm
Nothing to be gained except to rest and rehab the regulars, and give the younger, less experienced players some playing time. Sorry I disappoint you Nole.
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That’s what off weeks and practices are for. What disappoints me is your complete aversion to upgrading the schedule.

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
3:23 pm

AltamahaDawg
August 29th, 2013
1:47 pm
nothing to be gained, but not having to announce that the University of Georgia is having an 11 game schedule because they simply could not book a “good team” with 8 months notice and gave up rather than disappoint the fans with a less than stellar opponent.
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What a crock of BS. Are you having a problem with reading comprehension? I’ve said it can’t be done in 1 year (or 8 months), but it CAN be done–and it’s way past time to start moving in that direction. Hopefully the new playoff format will put more emphasis on SOS, which in turn will “encourage” those teams that seem to have so much trouble scheduling DECENT OOC opponents to take another look.

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
3:29 pm

AltamahaDawg
August 29th, 2013
2:13 pm
and I CERTAINLY am not one to defend flat tire but he never suggested playing North Texas instead of Clemson. You can’t suggest that he might bea coward for words you put in his mouth.
We are playing N Texas. BECAUSAE we are playing Clemson, not instead of. We have never played 3 North Texas’ in one year. But you are suggesting that we play GT and then 3 teams the caliber of Clemson, on top of an SEC schedule. I would be willing to bet if that were in your power, if that fell on your shoulders, that is not what you would do either.
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Do you not understand what the word IF means? IF he’d rather play Clemson than the usual parade of pu**ies–and I would hope he does–then this is a non-issue. Looks like YOU are the one inserting words into the mouths of others.

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
3:36 pm

AltamahaDawg
August 29th, 2013
2:26 pm
We have ALWAYS played 2 quality OOC games and one cupcake, There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Then 2 because of the 12th game, which has been impossible to find anybody decent in the past few years because of our SEC headquarters.
That will either settle down and we can book further out, or the 9th SEC game will take it out.
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Did the addition of a 12th game just now happen? Of course not, so NO, we absolutely have not “ALWAYS played 2 quality OOC games and one cupcake.” The addition of a 12th game was NOT supposed to be for the purpose of buying another W.

And did I not ALREADY suggest that the addition of a 9th SEC game would reduce the “opportunity” to buy yet another W?

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
3:36 pm

alright, no big deal. I think you are ignoring the point I was making there, and several other things I said, and it wasn’t about just this year, but no need to beat that horse anymore. Didn’t mean that to come across as snarky.

you are making a broader philosophical point, which I said, I think we all agree in theory. Just making the point…….we played these 2 cupcake as opposed to nobody, which I believe was the option.

I do disagree philosophically about the playoff point though. If anything I think it will encourage teams to strategize more toward win totals.
I don’t think that scenario where team try to schedule % points more difficult OOC team to hope that they beat out another team with the same 10-2 record for that 4th spot, is very realistic.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
3:43 pm

what was the 12th game added for?

and , its only been the norm for 6 or 7 years, and for half that time the SEC had been in reorganization mode. So OK,. My post does not entirely cover every single year in history (my bad). But enough of it, that I believe the point was entirely valid. Enough that you’re having to pull out the exception to my point.

I also think that looking at our OOC games since the 12th game was added, we have had pretty respectable schedules.

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
3:47 pm

AltamahaDawg
August 29th, 2013
3:36 pm
alright, no big deal. I think you are ignoring the point I was making there, and several other things I said, and it wasn’t about just this year, but no need to beat that horse anymore. Didn’t mean that to come across as snarky.
you are making a broader philosophical point, which I said, I think we all agree in theory. Just making the point…….we played these 2 cupcake as opposed to nobody, which I believe was the option.
I do disagree philosophically about the playoff point though. If anything I think it will encourage teams to strategize more toward win totals. I don’t think that scenario where team try to schedule % points more difficult OOC team to hope that they beat out another team with the same 10-2 record for that 4th spot, is very realistic.
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Well, I’m glad we ALMOST agree on something. This immoral buy-a-win business has ALWAYS irked me, but I think it’s especially evident now as we lead up to the Clemson game because of all the excitement this one’s generating–not only for the fans but for the teams. So what if it’s an away game? We’re still getting major-network TV bucks for it, and next year it will be in Athens.

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
3:57 pm

AltamahaDawg
August 29th, 2013
3:43 pm
what was the 12th game added for?
and , its only been the norm for 6 or 7 years, and for half that time the SEC had been in reorganization mode. So OK,. My post does not entirely cover every single year in history (my bad). But enough of it, that I believe the point was entirely valid. Enough that you’re having to pull out the exception to my point.
I also think that looking at our OOC games since the 12th game was added, we have had pretty respectable schedules.
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NOT for the purpose of buying Ws.

The clunkers I cited are among UGA’s OOC opponents for the past 7 years plus this year. NONE of those represent ANYTHING resembling respectability.

And AGAIN, I am NOT singling out UGA. MANY others–MOST others, in fact–including my co-favorite team FSU, are guilty of buying wins. Just because it’s allowed doesn’t mean it’s right, and the sooner it ends, the better off we’ll all be.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
7:43 pm

just fyi…….I know what I said. No need to cut and paste it. should save you some hassle.

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
9:17 pm

It’s no hassle. I do that in case there are posters in between–and for documentation and clarity.

AltamahaDawg

August 30th, 2013
6:26 am

yea I know why. was just saying.
we can all follow the thread. the clarity is kind of obvious.

AltamahaDawg

August 30th, 2013
6:32 am

different topic.

Looks like Clowney spend the summer flexing in the mirror and looking at new condos.. Anybody see him getting in better shape in 8 days?

Dog4Life

August 30th, 2013
9:15 am

I do not attend cupcake games: 1) too hot (usually noon game), 2) It is interesting to see some younger players, but how they perform against a cupcake doesn’t equal how they will perform against a Bama etc…, 3) quite frankly they are boring and it is a long drive and expensive logistics to get there and back–I do watch them on TV if available.

aTm gets off easy because the NCAA does not have subpoena power. One concern was if they could find the money, which required the family and the vendors to tell the truth which they did not–they apparently prevaricated the reality if one believes the ESPN report. In AJs case, he told the truth and gave the money back–cashing the check had no bearing because if he had lied the NCAA had no way of finding out–they woulld have had to subpoena his bank records– they cannot do that. Well, so much for the tenets of aTm of integrity, honesty and virtue–economics always trumps morality(most cases).

I was not at the the 1984 game. I was on my second and last tour of duty in Central America–I did hear it on tape delay over armed forces radio–Not Munson unfortunately–but it was great nonetheless. 1988 I enrolled at UGA as a student (spent two yrs as a backup QB (deep backup), not in the sec but a D1 program–hurt my knee) and a degree and a masters later I have never missed seeing a game, hearing a game or watching a game since. I love the DAWGS!!!!

This Clemscum game will come down to defensive containment, youth overcoming a big stage, and an unbalanced game plan–RUN THE BALL 65 TIMES AND KEEP BOYD OFF THE FIELD. That will force Dabo to panic and Boyd will pressure himself to succeed–at least that is my mind-set to win this game.

BoiseDawg

August 30th, 2013
10:24 am

Altamaha – I hope Bobo took notice. One game at a time… I’d like to see us go with a lot of no huddle and delayed screen passes to Gurley when we play South Carolina.

I am just as concerned about our defense though. Shaw killed us last year running the ball.

RangeRover

August 30th, 2013
2:08 pm

I was there in Death Valley in 1981…you could see William Perry’s naval a hundred yards away.

Devil's Advocate

August 30th, 2013
2:51 pm

Let’s keep some perspective here. Clemson dominated the ACC for the most part in 2012 but they struggled to beat Auburn and had to come from behind to barely beat LSU in a bowl game. I cannot explain what happened in the CFA Bowl but LSU seemed to be in control until the final 8 minutes. Everyone knows what South Carolina (without Lattimore) did to Clemson.

I can’t wait for all the haters to say Clemson is a weak ACC team after UGA beats them convincingly and tries to use the very facts I just presented to claim that UGA hasn’t proven anything.

The Geezer

August 30th, 2013
7:32 pm

Actually what Grizzard wrote was when he saw the farmers coming down the street on their tractors for the tractorcade, he thought they were Clemson fans going to Sears to get new clothes for the Orange Bowl.

I also recall after Butler kicked his 60 yard field goal with 11 seconds left to put Georgia ahead, the Dogs had to kick off to Clemson and the kid who fielded the kickoff on his side of the field threw a lateral all the way across the field to the other kickoff return man on the far sideline and the Georgia return team had to fight to bring down that man before he could score a game winning touchdown.

It was a great rivalry for those 11 years.

Angie

August 31st, 2013
1:50 pm

I was very pregnant at the 1984 game, everyone rubbed my belly before Butler kicked the ball, the rest is history….I love that story