A primer for young Dawgs who don’t understand how big Georgia-Clemson really is!

Georgia-Clemson logosWe discussed recently here Georgia’s great football rivalries, and it saddens me a little to think that for most younger fans Georgia-Clemson doesn’t fall in that category.

It’s no wonder. Despite being in such close proximity to each other and having such a rich history of gridiron clashes, the two schools haven’t played that much in recent decades: only four times in the 1990s and only twice since then, the last time being a decade ago. That’s in contrast to the period when I came of age as a Georgia fan, when the Dogs and the Tigers met nearly every year (and, in fact, every year from 1973 through 1987). Unfortunately, as conference schedules grew, the yearly grudge match became an occasional thing and one of the country’s greatest rivalries waned.

Of course, even UGA football newbies view this Saturday night’s game as a big one. After all the Bulldogs are the nation’s No. 5 team and Clemson ranks No. 8. It’s the first time in history that both Georgia and its opening opponent of the season will be ranked in the Top 10.

The previous highest-ranked opener for the Dogs was back in 1982, when No. 6 Georgia beat No. 11 Clemson in Athens.

But get this, younger Bulldogs: When that 1982 game took place, Georgia-Clemson was probably the biggest rivalry on the Dogs’ schedule, even bigger to many fans than Georgia-Florida in Jacksonville!

And during the rivalry’s greatest run in the early 1980s, Tiger fans and players were heard to declare that the Georgia game meant more to them than even playing the hated Gamecocks.

While Georgia leads the series 41-17-4 and has won the past five meetings, the rivalry was dead even during its glory days in 1977-87 — a period that saw each school win a national championship — with the two teams going 5-5-1.

Clemson’s only regular-season losses in 1978, 1982 and 1991 were to the Dogs, and Georgia’s only regular-season loss during that great three-year Herschel Walker run was in Death Valley to the eventual 1981 national champion Tigers.

As I noted a couple of years ago when writing about the impending return of Georgia-Clemson for two games in 2013-14, great rivalries make for great trash talking, and aside from Tech, the legendary Lewis Grizzard got off some of his best shots at “Clempson,” the school he referred to as “Auburn with a lake.” My favorite was after protesting farmers staged a tractorcade at the state Capitol in 1978. Lewis cracked that he hadn’t seen that many tractors since the last time Clemson played in Athens.

And only great rivalries get books written about them; Georgia-Clemson has one in Kyle King’s “Fighting Like Cats and Dogs” (more on that to come).

Georgia's Thomas Davis puts a big hit on Clemson's Charlie Whitehurst in the 2003 season opener. (University of Georgia)

Georgia's Thomas Davis puts a big hit on Clemson's Charlie Whitehurst in the 2003 season opener. (University of Georgia)

Looking ahead, with a possible nine-game conference schedule being considered by the SEC, Georgia-Clemson soon may be relegated to something that only happens in the occasional neutral-site kickoff game or in a bowl, but as a reminder of what a great rivalry the Dogs and Tigers have had over the years, I thought I’d trot out an updated recounting of my favorite games from the series:

1968: Georgia wins 31-13 in Athens. I remember after I finished selling my game programs at Sanford Stadium I managed to snag a seat near the 50-yard line in the south stands for this great game in an SEC championship season for the Dawgs. The typically tough Erk Russell defense notched two safeties that day, but it actually was an atypical game for UGA in the Vince Dooley era in that Georgia had 300 yards passing, including a 37-yard touchdown strike from Mike Cavan to big Dennis Hughes.

1969: Georgia wins 30-0 at Clemson. Cavan threw two touchdown passes and ran for another score as the Dogs shut out the Tigers in Death Valley.

1976: Georgia wins 41-0 at Clemson. Before a national television audience on ABC, Georgia’s quarterback tandem of Ray Goff and Matt Robinson humiliated the Tigers. Goff had a 73-yard scoring run and Robinson threw three touchdown passes, including an 85-yarder to Gene Washington. Quite a day.

1980: Georgia wins 20-16 in Athens. It was a tightly fought game during the national championship season in which Clemson won the statistical battle but the Dogs had the key number on the scoreboard. Scott Woerner ran back a punt 67 yards for a touchdown and returned an interception 98 yards to set up a Buck Belue score.

1982: Georgia wins 13-7 in Athens. This was a big, big game, Georgia’s first under the new Sanford Stadium lights as the two preceding national champions met on national TV on Labor Day night with Gomer Pyle himself, Jim Nabors, on hand to sing the national anthem. Herschel had an injured thumb and no one was sure how much he’d play, if at all. When he entered the game as a decoy in the second quarter the focus was so much on him that Tron Jackson was able to score on a 41-yard reverse, though the score was wiped out by a penalty. Herschel played more in the second half, though he wasn’t really a factor. But the Georgia defense rose to the occasion, intercepting Athens native Homer Jordan four times and blocking a punt that turned into a touchdown for the Dogs. And Kevin Butler kicked two field goals.

1984: Georgia wins 26-23 in Athens. Speaking of Butler, his legend was made on this day. After coming back from being down two touchdowns at halftime to tie the game at 20, go ahead by 3 and then see Clemson tie it up again at 23-23, the Dogs upset the No. 2-ranked Tigers when Butler kicked it 100,000 miles, as Larry Munson said (actually 60 yards) for the winning field goal with 11 seconds to go. The stadium, as Munson screamed, was “worse than bonkers.”

1985: Georgia wins 20-13 in Clemson. Breaking out their red britches for the first time since the 1980 opener with Herschel, the Dogs won a big upset in this nationally televised game in Death Valley thanks mostly to the spark provided by second-string quarterback James Jackson and a pair of interceptions by rover John Little. Georgia center Pete Anderson was also a hero that day for falling on a Bulldog fumble for a touchdown.

1991: Georgia wins 27-12 in Athens. On Goff’s best day as head coach, the Dogs upset the No. 6-ranked (and eventual ACC champion) Tigers on national television thanks to the efforts of freshman quarterback Eric Zeier, who replaced starter Greg Talley. It was a big day in local sports that also saw the Braves clinching the NL West.

2002: Georgia wins 31-28 in Athens. The close calls that characterized Georgia’s first SEC title season in 20 years started in this night game at Sanford Stadium as QB David Greene struggled. But backup D.J. Shockley, a redshirt freshman playing his first game, threw for one touchdown and ran for another, Fred Gibson returned a kickoff 91 yards for a score and Billy Bennett made a late fourth-quarter field goal for the margin of victory. A Tiger field goal attempt that would have tied it up fell short, and the Dogs clinched it when they converted on fourth down with 40 seconds left. Typical Georgia-Clemson.

2003: Georgia wins 30-0 at Clemson. The Dogs entered the game with a shaky offensive line, two starters out injured and eight other players out on suspension, but Greene connected early with Gibson on a beautiful 56-yard touchdown strike. Greenie also had a 3-yard touchdown run, Shockley scored on a 29-yard run, Bennett added three field goals and the defense, which held Clemson to 7 yards rushing in the first half, preserved a shutout against the Tigers with a David Pollack interception. Perfect.

That’s the last time Georgia and Clemson played, but I’m hopeful this coming Saturday night will add another memorable Bulldogs win to my list!

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Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
7:28 pm

After the 1st qtr LSU looked like they were ready to head back to baton rouge; they acted like they didnt really care

With our offense and a half decent performance from our defense I think we should win by10-14 points

Skokie Dog

August 28th, 2013
7:38 pm

I know that some of you who post here don’t like to consider history when it doesn’t conform to your perspective, but here’s a statistic that appeared earlier this week at onlineathens.com, and it concerns me. Georgia’s record is 3-11 in games for which ESPN GameDay was staged in the host city where U.Ga. was one of the teams playing there. That’s indicative of the poor showing in so-called “big games” in recent years that some of us have noticed. Ignore it if you wish. I’m aware that this is a new season.

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
7:53 pm

Skokie

Now you know you are not allowed to post facts on these blogs

DawgNole

August 28th, 2013
7:54 pm

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.
August 28th, 2013
12:05 pm

Can we start a petition to drop that has been program named GT and put Clemson in its spot
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I’d much rather drop App St, North Texas, Coastal Carolina, New Mexico St, La-Lafayette, Idaho St, Tenn Tech, Central Mich, Western Carolina, Troy, Buffalo, Fla Atlantic, Ga Southern, Western Ky, UAB, blah blah blah.

Bulldawg35

August 28th, 2013
8:02 pm

Top ten reasons UGA will lose this sat!

1. Connor starting safety

2. JHC suspended

3. Richt feels sorry for Dabo

4. Chad Morris is better than bobo

5.venables better than Grantham

6.clemson is at home!

7. Langley at one corner

8. Swann unproven

9. Rump not playing

10. Murray’s turnovers

Thanks everybody!

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
8:04 pm

Clemson’s tendency on defense last year was to stack the box to stop the run and their weakness was actually against the pass.

The decision to pass or run will depend on the defensive formations. UGA will not try to run against an eight man line.

Ironically special teams was the one area where UGA was better than Bama in the SEC champ game.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
8:13 pm

BS35 (aka Milk Dud) – Did you escape from the padded room at rehab again?

I see you have gone off the wagon in to negativism. Shall I have them pick you up?

Upset Alert: Temple over Notre Dame.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
8:16 pm

Pulling for Carolina thursday night – North Carolina that is!

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
8:16 pm

Clemson runs a spread and it looks like just about like any other spread except they don’t run it as much and use shorter passes. Boyd took a beating and was still hanging in there. He does wind up when throwing on the run I noticed. When we have him in the pocket we cannot miss and break containment. That is when he is most effective. Bottle him up and get in his face.

They are supposedly have a waterbug that they are going to start at RB. A small, quick guy. I doubt they will try any power runs.

Skokie Dog

August 28th, 2013
8:20 pm

@DawgNole: Amen to that suggestion. An annual game versus Clemson would be preferable to an annual matchup with Northwest Cupcake State Teacher’s College or a similar school’s team. It’s even possible that more fans would show up for the game featuring a real opponent. Even with a schedule featuring nine SEC opponents, replacing a cupcake with a legitimate opponent would be feasible. I’m aware that we’d lose a home game in some years if we scheduled home and home games with credible opponents, and that means lower profits in those seasons. Improving the strength of out-of-conference schedule could even make the U.Ga. players and coaches look better if they won those games.

Buzz-off

August 28th, 2013
8:32 pm

NCDawg@12:23

I think we beat the #2 BCS team last season on-the-road in Jacksonville. Go DAWGS!!!

DawgNole

August 28th, 2013
8:36 pm

You’re on the money, Skokie. I mean, compare the hype, excitement, stakes, exposure, and everything else with Clemson as our opening game vs last year’s Buffalo debacle. Hell, the major-network TV money that you get with a quality OOC opponent goes a long way toward offsetting the loss of home-game revenue with a marshmallow–in which empty seats abound AND you pay them a million bucks.

Just hoping this upcoming playoff format will “encourage” FBS teams to at least slow down the parade of OOC weaklings.

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
8:36 pm

I check onlineathens everyday and I missed that one Skokie. Did they give a time frame for the statistic? There is no doubt that they have played poorly in big games in recent years. My hope is the trend started in Jacksonville, when against all hope really, the defense showed up and we put a 2X4 between the Gators’ eyes and the gutsy performance in the SEC CG. Yes, the defense was steamrolled but they did get a stop when they had to and gave the offense that opportunity at the end.

These things come down to mindset. My Dad told me when I was knee high to a grasshopper that you don’t ever enter a fight you don’t believe you will win. He wasn’t talking about chickening out and running, he was saying that you must believe you will win or the fight is over before it starts. This is where the Gator thing got the Dogs in the past… they were mind F’d before they ever took the field.

The doubt must be expunged and cold confidence must be all that you feel. Not arrogance, that is easily shattered… cold, hard, confidence. The SEC CG is the first time in a LONG time I thought the Dogs looked confident against an quality opponent. They played pretty well… the D just succumbed to a lack of depth exacerbated by a technical flaw in the D-line phiosophy.

The first 2 or 3 series will tell the tale on Saturday. If the defense looks mildly competent and the offense is looking even pretty good then it should be a victory.. not a romp but a solid win.

Bulldawg35

August 28th, 2013
8:37 pm

Flo- duhhhhhhhduhhhhh

Would you stop it with the temple over Notre dame! It’s a foolish prediction! Geez!

Bulldawg35

August 28th, 2013
8:43 pm

Richt please beat Clemson!

Beat Clemson

Beat Clemson

Beat Clemson

I’m nerves are tangled up in barb wire! I have acid reflux in my stomach….I can’t sleep or hardly eat. If we don’t beat Clemson…..I’m going to blow the head gasket in my car…..dang it!

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 28th, 2013
8:45 pm

DawgNole

While I agree with wanting to replace those games you pretty much cancel an SEC team out of the national title picture cause there will be a much higher chance for 2 or more losses

would you rather watch a team from the Big Joke 10 play for the national title every year or the Pac 12 cause they wont have any problems making it with the easy schedules they play

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
8:48 pm

Yeah I know, I left out UF last year because I knew it would be discounted because it is technically not a road game. (BS)

Preseason rankings are horse crap… Clemson may or may not be worthy of a #8 ranking. I guess we’ll see Saturday night

NCDawg

August 28th, 2013
8:50 pm

It’s eating my posts again… man that is aggrevating

Bulldawg35

August 28th, 2013
8:59 pm

What a shame and a night filled with horror when we lose to Clemson!

DawgNole

August 28th, 2013
9:12 pm

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.
August 28th, 2013
8:45 pm
DawgNole
While I agree with wanting to replace those games you pretty much cancel an SEC team out of the national title picture cause there will be a much higher chance for 2 or more losses
would you rather watch a team from the Big Joke 10 play for the national title every year or the Pac 12 cause they wont have any problems making it with the easy schedules they play
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I’m not just singling out UGA. NO FBS team has any business playing the garbage OOC teams they typically schedule. Such games benefit NOBODY. Fans hate them, rankings suffer, a win proves nothing, a loss is devastating, no TV, no respect.

Are you saying you’d prefer to play those creampuffs I noted (all UGA opponents) than Clemson? If so, you’re a coward. To be the best, you must play the best–or at least not play the worst, which is what UGA and most FBS teams do every chance they get.

A good step in the right direction would be to go to 9 conference games, which would reduce by 1 the “opportunity” to schedule yet another middle school team and pay them a million bucks to come to our place and bend over. Even with 9 SEC games, there’s still room for a traditional rival, a decent OOC opponent, and a softie.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 28th, 2013
9:17 pm

BS35 (aka Milk Dud) – Take a deep breath and relax. Quit being so negative. You gotta have HEART!

I have no doubt that Temple will upset Notre Dame – NONE.

Dawgs are a 2 point favorite in Vegas – take it to the bank.

As for Boyd the best thing to do is to force him to his left where he is not nearly as accurate throwing the ball. I can see the Dawgs getting at least two turnovers in this game.

HotDawg

August 28th, 2013
9:33 pm

I was at that 60 yard, Kevin Butler field goal game. In fact, i saw the ball sail through the uprights as I was right up on one of the sidelines of that goalpost. The kick went well over 70 yards.
As it went through, the entire stadium shook as the crowd went nuts. It was THE loudest I, and many others have said, have ever heard Sanford Stadium.And that is saying a lot. Everybody was hugging everyone around them. A fantastic day and night in Athens. Serious goosebumps.

Bulldog Guss

August 28th, 2013
10:27 pm

Do you hear that sound??? It’s that ROARING BULLDOG TRAIN whistle pulling into Auburn with a lake, um, I mean Clemson. Little Tigers pick your poison, put 9 in the box or play with 5 DB’s. Doesn’t matter. DOGS win impressively. We gonna eat chicken next Saturday.

Eddie...Lee...and..Ivory...

August 28th, 2013
11:50 pm

BigCrimson75…..Biggest Troll here since my boy, GTBob! Buckeye that is 2nd troll in line has left UF w/ Urban after Timmys hugs vanished… NCDawg(for years) has complained of his posts being compromised besides owning up to the fact that his Tar Heels have another sight that may have 4 followers w/ that South Carolina game looming.

Eddie...Lee...and..Ivory...

August 28th, 2013
11:56 pm

And ” Flat Tire on 75″ has suddenly transmorphed into some “delusional” poster….Prob a Tech boy……anyways

Eddie...Lee...and..Ivory...

August 29th, 2013
12:08 am

And Flo-ri_dah u may ask……bout the most sane blogger on the 15 newspaper blogs I read daily!

Go Jackets!

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
6:22 am

I’m not nearly as offended by playing even one cupcake team as some but I will say this: when you have to scramble to schedule 3 OOC team (plus a rivalry) the pickings as just slim, too often. One thing a 9 game SEC schedule does for us, 2 lessor teams is not as difficult to arrange.. That third one, DirectionalU is the one that gives the entire schedule a questionable look..

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
6:32 am

It pretty realistic to think that we control what everybody else does to the point that we could schedule FOUR really good OOC teams every year though. Playing a cupcake is just part of a 12 game schedule. and decent team is going to need a return game, and getting all that worked out years in advance, and neither of the parties(x4) needing to reschedule is just not going to happen.

Keep in mind that the league office is the one controlling the weekends we HAVE to play. How could Mcgarity possible go out and get quality opponents, when he hasn’t even known the conference schedule till a year out. Oklahoma State(s) is not sitting out there waiting for the call to play us, whenever we say.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
6:33 am

DawgNole

August 29th, 2013
6:34 am

HotDawg
August 28th, 2013
9:33 pm
I was at that 60 yard, Kevin Butler field goal game. In fact, i saw the ball sail through the uprights as I was right up on one of the sidelines of that goalpost. The kick went well over 70 yards . . . .
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Had to listen to that one on the radio. No TV for virtually every game back then. That’s about the only thing we can thank espn for–that most games now are viewable to those of us who can’t always make it to the stadiums.

Butler’s 60-yarder reminds me of a 70-yarder he ALMOST made in the ‘84 Citrus Bowl against the Noles. It was near the end of the game, which was tied, and his aim was dead on, but the ball fell a yard short–so the final score stayed at 17-17. Now THAT one I did get to see on the tube–it being a bowl game and all.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
6:40 am

for example, we knew THIS schedule a little more than a year ago. Who do you suggest we play other than N Texas, in between SC and LSU. Assuming you don’t think the team really needs that break (and I bet nobody is truly going to want a tougher game right there when it gets here), who would have had week 4 sitting open waiting for us to call? nobody. N.Texas probably had to shuffle to around NW Texas to make it.

fan

August 29th, 2013
7:23 am

The question for the dawgs this season is. Can aaron Murray overcome todd grantham?
Probably not. Peyton Manning couldn’t!

why yeah

August 29th, 2013
7:32 am

that 2002 Georgia/Clemson game was the first UGA I ever attended. My brother went to UGA and managed to get me a ticket for my 21st birthday. I can’t frickin wait til Saturday. Go Dawgs!!

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 29th, 2013
7:56 am

DawgNole

Before almost calling someone a coward read what I said, “While I agree with wanting to replace those games”

Again Im all for playing 9 conference games but you are falling in the hate the SEC trap by the biased northern media; the same media that for years tried their best to keep southern teams out playing national title games

Have you taken a look at the teams that make up the Big 10 if you havent do so sometime and you realize why Ohio St and Michigan have won 79 conference championships between the 2 of them

I mean I remember how FL had no chance against Ohio St in the national title game and that they really shouldnt be there was the cry from many in the media

The same can be said about the Pac 12 USC has won 38 conference championships
The Big 12 has always been just Texas and Oklahoma who have combined to win 75 conference titles

Now go take a look at the SEC no one is running away with conference titles that ought to tell you just how hard it is to go undefeated in this league

So when you add another conference game then add other OOC tough schools make no mistake the SEC will have a much hard time than those from those other conferences

While the SEC isnt always good they pretty much are most of the time just take a look at the amount of National Titles and bowl wins they lead by a good margin in both categories

NCDawg

August 29th, 2013
7:59 am

Scheduling is such a strange thing in college football. For some reason most fans think the coaches do the schedules. They don’t and they really have very little, if any, input. The AD is at the mercy of the conference schedule and lately there hasn’t been any consistency in that at all. No one has known for 2 or 3 seasons what the conference schedule was going to be until it came out. It wasn’t like a few years back when you knew that XX was your next rotational opponent from the other division.

The AD’s have a tough task… they really don’t know when they can schedule games until that conference slate is revealed and then it’s a scramble to get teams to fill those slots. There is also the FBS schools version of corporate welfare… scheduling cupcakes.

Many if not all these schools depend on getting a couple of games with the big boys to keep their programs afloat. The FBS school gets 2 things… a breather and an easy win. The FCS team get the experience of playing against top notch competition and tons of money. The 800K to 900K they get from this arrangement is probably more than their total home schedule brings in in any given season. Those schools dry up and blow away without it. So the FBS schools feel somewhat obligated to do this.

I think 1 cupcake per year would be enough. But then again some teams get their cupcakes playing within their conference… you know who we are talking about. SoS in the new playoff formula would be a good deterrent to schools loading up on FCS cupcakes. maybe if they setup the formula to throw out 1 FCS school only, it would curb the urge to pad the schedule with easy wins.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 29th, 2013
8:09 am

Eddie… Lee… And.. Ivory… (12:08 a.m.) – FINALLY! Some recognition for the genius I am. Thanks – that was SWEET!.

BS35 (aka Milk Dud) – I’m still going with Temple over the over rated Notre Dame … bet the house, car, dog, etc….. It’s gonna happen!

Flat Tire doesnt live in Delusionalville Ga.

August 29th, 2013
8:13 am

NCDawg

I agree but remember The Big 10 would love more than ever just to add more games within their conference and then claim oh we played a tough schedule which would be a laughable joke

UGA Insider

August 29th, 2013
8:18 am

I have never seen a college QB complete a pass when he was on his ass looking up.

UGA 45
Clemson 17

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 29th, 2013
8:30 am

Hot Dawg – I was at the ‘84 Clempsun/UGA game in Athens also.. what a Rushhhhhhhh! The most exciting game I ever saw between the hedges. Butler’s kick was actually 60 yards and 2 feet as it was lined up past the fifty yard line (with 11 seconds left in the game!). What many have failed to realize was that at the time Clempsum was ranked #2 in the nation. UGA came from behind 20-6 at the half. Had to be a 8+ on the Richter Scale when the ball passed over the cross bar and you could actually feel the stadium swaying! Thought the place might cave in.

It was extremely hot (100 degrees) and a day game. The most famous athlete on the field was Refrigerator Perry (DT) and around 330 lbs and his “little” brother Michael (DT) another 300 lb’er. UGA’s double teams and the heat got to the “Frige” in the 2nd half and that’s when UGA made their come back. The heat was a definite factor in favor of the Dawgs on that day.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 29th, 2013
8:33 am

Eddie Lee Ivory (RB – All American at Tech) – Now that’s a name from the past…. great athlete even if he went to Tech!

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 29th, 2013
8:42 am

At one time the regular season was 10 games and there was no SEC champ game.

That is the main reason why even Bama plays people like Georgia State. A much longer schedule naturally results in more injuries and actually fewer players now because there was not always a limit of 85 scholarships.

Many of you on here never played football… no knock on you but these guys have a very long and physical season and they still have to go to class and make their grades. So you can have a shorter schedule with all D1 teams or a watered down schedule with more games and more money for the schools. That’s what it is all about today unfortunately – the $$$$$$$$.

Flo-Ri-Duh

August 29th, 2013
8:46 am

I have the patent rights on the Nick Saban yard gnome ( Nick gets his cut of course)….. my Dawg loves hosing down Nick. GOOD DAWG!

Sales are booming!

Todd44dawg

August 29th, 2013
8:50 am

Uga by a landslide. Aaaron Murray will put on a clinic. Gurley and Marshall will get 100yds a piece. Clemson has a weak defense and will not be able to handle our receiving corp.

I-DOG

August 29th, 2013
8:58 am

Are Dez Bryant and AJ Green going to file suit against the NCAA? How can Manzel get a half a game suspension (against a cupcake no less). If he did nothing wrong, he should not get ANY suspension. If he did take money for the signatures then this penalty is laughable. How does AJ get a penalty that is 8 times as steep (really more than that since AJ missed real opponents) for selling a single jersey and Dez Bryant got hit with 20 times the penalty for having lunch with D. Sanders.

I like watching Manzel play so I am glad he gets to play this season for purely selfish reasons… but the penalty makes no sense. If he did nothing, how can he be penalized. If he did take money, how can it be a half a game? Whatever credibility the NCAA had left is gone. Time to start over and dissolve this entity

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
9:07 am

The winner of the SECCG is always going to be in the top 4 rankings, no matter what OOC game they play.

On the extremely rare occasion that a SEC champ is trailing in 5th place by whatever fraction of a percent that computer power rankings hold, we probably had a couple of 2 loss teams vying for the title anyway, so maybe that’s just not our year.

Mobile Dawg

August 29th, 2013
9:16 am

The talking heads were talking Clemson up last night, but then 3 out of 4 picked the Dawgs.

NCDawg

August 29th, 2013
9:50 am

It will be very interesting to see what type of selection committee is put together and what criterion they will be using. I doubt they will use ranking or if they do the weighting of that part in the formula will be decreased. I’d love an RPI like structure with a very set criterion of how it is weighted. That would be better than a beauty contest.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
9:56 am

at the risk of being called a NCAA Homer, I sort of see what they did as best case.

The penalty as I understand it is because he “should have known” better than get himself in an awkward position. So basically its a deterrent to future players…….. be careful signing auotgraphs.

3 points:

–if they can’t Prove her cashed a check, they cant prove it. How can they suspend him for 4 games or such?
–they do need to make some statement about this kind of thing, though, however silly half game is
–If you were Manziel/TAMU, wouldn’t you not have jumped on this to be done with it.

It’s complete BS but I’m not sure it could have really gone any other way.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
10:01 am

And AJ Greene sold a NCAA sponsored item for profit and cashed a check into his account. He’s got no grounds to be suing about.

If……. other people did it, we all know they did, but you just couldn’t prove it……… was his case, that’s been there for him all this time.

AltamahaDawg

August 29th, 2013
10:01 am

Green, he’s not David’s bother , I know.