Can UGA sit out an SEC arms race?
Greg McGarity doesn't like the new deregulated NCAA approach to recruiting. (University of Georgia)
There’ve been some interesting discussions recently about the brave new world of college football that may result from the NCAA throwing out part of its rule book, and how Greg McGarity and UGA appear reluctant to follow the trail being blazed by Nick Saban at Alabama.
Even before the recent NCAA move, Saban was already lapping everyone else in terms of exploiting every legal avenue toward establishing an advantage for his Crimson Tide program, getting around the limitations on the number of assistants a school can have on its coaching staff by hiring off-field “analysts.”
Then, in January, the NCAA’s university presidents decided that in an age of texting and social media some of the rules governing recruiting had become pretty much impossible to enforce, so they passed legislation to eliminate a bunch of restrictions. Under the legislation, due to take effect July 1, not only can coaches and anyone else at a school have pretty much unlimited contact via phone calls and text messages with recruits, schools also can add as many full-time recruiters to their athletic staffs as they want and can afford.
Typically, Bama has already jumped on this, hiring former Clemson defensive coordinator and Baylor head coach Kevin Steele as director of player personnel, with his main job being to direct the Tide’s recruiting efforts. Alabama also hired a high school coach as director of player development.
Other programs that can afford to follow Bama’s rich-get-richer template no doubt soon will be staffing up on the recruiting side, but some schools are balking. Big 10 coaches and athletic directors came out last week against key parts of the legislation, expressing “serious concerns” whether the plan is “in the best interest of high school student-athletes, their families and their coaches.” Their statement added: “We are also concerned about the adverse effect they would have on college coaches, administrators and university resources.”
Philosophically, UGA has come down on the side of the Big 10, with McGarity telling the New York Times he fears the new rules will lead to something akin to an athletic arms race among the bigger programs. “Some school is going to want to get on the high dive with this and go all in and spend and spend,” McGarity said. “It is going to start a round of competition among schools that is going to be limitless.”
Nick Saban pushes the envelope ... and gets results. (Associated Press)
You can read “some school” as “Alabama” in that quote.
McGarity told the Times he’s talked with other SEC athletic directors who are opposed to the legislation and he hopes to engineer a conference vote to override the new rules. Opponents of the legislation have until March 20 to gather 75 votes from presidents of Division I universities in order to initiate such an override.
Outgoing UGA President Michael Adams agrees with McGarity. Talking with the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer recently, Adams raised some legitimate concerns about the impact the new rules could have on recruits.
“I think some deregulation on the most ridiculous rules was needed,” Adams said. “But a lot of those rules have been put there because of how competitive coaches are. I don’t know if you ever have a perfectly level playing field, quote-unquote. But I worry about a student-athlete being bombarded in high school, particularly some who need to spend time studying instead of responding to 100 emails per day. All of this is a balancing act, and the pendulum can swing too much in one direction — which it probably had, with some ridiculous rules. But it doesn’t need to swing all the way back to the other side, or we will hurt student-athletes in the process.”
Adams isn’t alone in fearing the new rules will result in the complete harassment of high school kids, as well as massive growth in football staffs at places like Alabama.
But what’s ironic about UGA’s opposition to the deregulation of recruiting and the potential ballooning of athletic staffs is that Georgia is one of the schools that can afford to keep pace with Alabama. As we’ve discussed previously, UGA has one of the most profitable athletic programs in the country and yet ranks in the middle of the SEC in spending. As a result McGarity and company are sitting on a reserve fund of nearly $70 million.
I’ve heard from quite a few fans in recent months who worry that Georgia isn’t keeping up with Saban and Co., and I share that concern.
While I agree that allowing unlimited contact with high school recruits isn’t a good idea, I think the UGA brain trust needs to recognize and react to the fact that, no matter whether these new rules stick or not, they’ve got to be more aggressive and spend more or they’re going to find Saban owns recruiting in this state.
UGA has to step up and play the game. Even without the unlimited-contact rule that might necessitate giant recruiting staffs, Georgia needs to take a page out of Saban’s book and start hiring some off-field quality-control analysts or consultants.
Already last year, the school hired veteran high school coach Daryl Jones as director of on-campus recruiting and, with the departure of recruiting coordinator Rodney Garner, appears content to let him run recruiting instead of putting a member of the coaching staff in charge.
But there are other areas that cry out for additional staffing. As I wrote back in early August, special teams seems ripe for some sort of creative approach like Saban’s, since Mark Richt is loathe to devote one of his precious on-field coaching spots to that crucial aspect of the game.
Why not hire someone like Kevin Butler to analyze video of placekicker Marshall Morgan every day and tell the kid what he needs to work on? It’s allowable under the current rules, as Saban has shown, and it’s needed.
What good is sitting on a $70 million surplus if the conference leader is establishing a new level of excellence that you refuse to reach for?
POOCH KICKS
Hot Dawg Delight. (from Mark Richt's Twitter feed)
Tuesday’s belated signing of another big defensive lineman in four-star recruit Toby Johnson is a great way for Richt to cap off his largest recruiting class ever. It’s time to quit harping on the ones that got away and instead appreciate the talented group of 33 players who’ve decided to play ball in Athens. … And while we’re appreciating the players we have, check out the the piece CBSSports.com columnist Dennis Dodd did about UGA quarterback Aaron Murray, whose remarkable work ethic is likely to have him leaving UGA owning most of the school’s and the conference’s passing records. … I joined my brothers and daughter for lunch Sunday at Herschel Walker’s new restaurant in downtown Athens, where peak time waits of 35-plus minutes for a table are still the norm. I’d say the menu and service need a little tweaking, but overall the food was tasty and well-prepared and we enjoyed the experience tremendously. Loran Smith takes a look at Walker’s evolution from Heisman winner to big-time businessman in his latest Athens Banner-Herald column. … And while I wouldn’t recommend Herschel add this to his menu, I was amused by Mark Richt’s tweets earlier this week about his birthday treat: a Hot Dawg Delight, which he explained is toasted bread, cooked hot dogs, melted cheese, baked beans and ketchup. “Mmm Mmm Good,” the coach said. I’m not sure that’s anything I’d want to tackle, but my indefatigable brother Jon noted: “He forgot the coleslaw on top!”
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167 comments Add your comment
Michael Reed
February 20th, 2013
10:06 am
I would rather be a program that cares about doing the right thing for student athletes rather than just winning at all costs. UGA is on the verge of a national championship I fully believe that. Bama is ALWAYS one step away from a whistle blower or disgruntled recruit sending them into serious sanctions. UGA needs to only keep upgrading facilities across the board. A full indoor practice facility as a MUST as soon as possible. UGA can afford it and I guardsmen recruits notice we don’t have one.
Michael Reed
February 20th, 2013
10:07 am
guardsmen was meant as guarantee…..
DawgLink
February 20th, 2013
10:10 am
It is really about the dollars. UGA has them, so let’s spend them on more recruiters. Hines Ward and Herschel Walker stock in my mind as 2 quality recruiters.
Columbus Dawg
February 20th, 2013
10:13 am
Saban has NEVER been able to win without tilting the tables his way. He has to have an unethical advantage. He has always done it in more ways than one . Alabama is in the top cheating schools of all time. Anything to win. Richt proved he could coach against Saban in the SECCG. (Except for having called all his time outs in the third quarter). I DO hope the Dawgs get another chance at him in December. I hope one of our new Bad Dawg defensive players takes the crybaby Alabama QB out this time around.
GATA= Get After That @ss
February 20th, 2013
10:15 am
Spell check will get you every time
SimpleDawg
February 20th, 2013
10:18 am
We definitely need to take advantage of expanding the ability to “coach” players through off-field consultants…..it would be stupid not to do so.
I do not believe there should be unlimited contact with high school players. In 90% of the cases, the contact load would be very detrimental to a student’s ability to function as a high school student, and would also reinforce/increase the annoying drama and theatrics involved in recruiting.
UGA does need to use it’s considerable financial prowess to enhance and improve it’s ability to compete on any level and with all rivals.
Sic ‘Em
Sam
February 20th, 2013
10:29 am
Maybe the recruits will just stop reading the emails after the first few? Or put a block on the ones they do not want to hear from. Technology can assist them in managing the deluge.
Buckeye
February 20th, 2013
10:46 am
Whaddup with the old format?
Gene
February 20th, 2013
10:47 am
Saban is smart and unprincipled. As long as he has unlimited resources and no administration constraints, it will be difficult for any school to outrecruit him or beat him on the field.
Twilb Dawg
February 20th, 2013
10:56 am
It does concern me that the UGA Athletic Assoc does not seem as willing as other schools to spend…
RTR22
February 20th, 2013
10:59 am
Columbus Dawg, go to the NCAA website and check on major infractions. Your pristine JAWJA is NUMBER 2 with SIX, ONE behind AWBARN. Get your facts straight IDIOT. Go ahead big boy look up the FACTS and spin it the dawg way……. LOSERS…….woof woof woof and no bite.
The Truth
February 20th, 2013
10:59 am
Schools like GA Tech will cheat every day. Changing the rules helps the honest schools compete with the cheating schools. The cheating schools would use unlimited phone calls and texting everyday. Even though it was against the rules.
GA Tech Lies & Cheats & Everyone knows it. Everyone! Tech fans are a big joke supporting this lying and cheating.
GTBob
February 20th, 2013
11:00 am
Ah, this is cute. UGA, a team that is pretty shady themselves is getting mad at a team that is even more shady and having much better results. If UGA wants to start a clean program, where they aren’t signing players with questionable college attributes, running off players every couple of years, and telling recruits that their coaches will certainly be there when they might not then that would be great. I would applaud UGA in their efforts to become a true college program. As for now though, don’t get mad at other shady programs just because they are doing it better than you are.
GTBob
February 20th, 2013
11:01 am
Schools like GA Tech will cheat every day.
How exactly do we cheat again? If we are cheating then we are really bad at it.
WDE
February 20th, 2013
11:01 am
This will be a nightmare for the families of the recruits wait and see.
Come on now...
February 20th, 2013
11:04 am
HAHAHA. It truly is hilarious to hear bulldog fans talk about how Georgia “does the right thing” and how being a part of a program that does what they do for the good of their student athletes is a bigger deal than winning. Give me a break. If that was the case, they wouldnt put up with and make excuses for all the thugs and future criminals that they sign. It’s just like Tech and Georgia (apart from the larger difference in program strength). Tech wines about, makes fun of, and “rises above” by having a cleaner program overall, but you (and I as a tech fan) know that we would gladly give that up to an extent to have a better program that competes at a higher level.
UGA fans, it’s the pot calling the kettle black talking about cheating, because you do it too, and would do it more if you could get away with it to beat Alabama. Stop being sore losers and acting like your notoriously corrupt players (which leads back to the administration in my opinion) are any better than Alabama’s.
As for the rule change being discussed, I thinks it’s a horrible idea. The recruiting is already enough of a circus as it is.
WDE
February 20th, 2013
11:06 am
GTBob the NCAA didn’t put your bunch on probation for your good looks and winning personalities..it was because you cheat and obstruct.Shady programs?? pot meet kettle..
GR
February 20th, 2013
11:07 am
THE NCAA does not now, nor has it in a long time, cared one little bit about the “student athletes”.
Justice is a word in the dictionary. The rules they make or change have nothing what soever to do with what is best for a kid.
It is best for their ego and/ or pocket books.
realitycheck
February 20th, 2013
11:07 am
Columbus Dawg……..Your facts are way off you old bitter redneck. Enjoy sitting in the grandstand in Daytona this weekend! 33 years and 5 yards……LOL!
Max Sizemore
February 20th, 2013
11:08 am
OK, I get it that “unlimited contact” with high school players is not a good thing. For anyone. But, what is the alternative? The current rules are unrealistic and too difficult to enforce. So, for all you critics out there, was is the solution?
Hey, Bill, if you eat that kind of food too often you might not be around for as long as we’d like. Just sayin’. I have some broccoli you might be interested in.
WDE
February 20th, 2013
11:18 am
Max Sizemore the only solution I can see is allow a player to commit/sign earlier and unless there is a coaching change and STAY committed ie sign on the dotted line and that is it unless there is a coaching change before you start school and the player wishes to go elsewhere..
ugab
February 20th, 2013
11:22 am
Looks like the dawgs are a few steps behind Saban. Saban is not breaking the rules. He is taking advantage of what the rules allow. Saban is using theses rules to his advantage. Why isn’t CMR on top of the rules? Is he not paid enough? How many years have we needed a special teams coach? How many years did we need more strength and conditioning? How many years are we always not on top of recruiting our needs, especially on the OLs and DLs? We are not hearing that next year Saban will need to rebuild his Defense. His defense has plenty of depth. His OL has plenty of depth. We know he has plenty of RBs!!!!(kamara)
ugab
February 20th, 2013
11:26 am
Spend some $ and compete with Alabama!!!
GTBob
February 20th, 2013
11:29 am
GTBob the NCAA didn’t put your bunch on probation for your good looks and winning personalities..it was because you cheat and obstruct.
They put us on probation because DRad felt like telling CPJ something he wasn’t allowed to tell. If you consider that cheating, and something that gave GT a competitive advantage in football games then good for you. Even the NCAA didn’t make that claim.
SEC Fact Finder
February 20th, 2013
11:36 am
The comments by some on here are just off the chart with bias opinions and made up facts.
Like; “Bama is ALWAYS one step away from a whistle blower or disgruntled recruit sending them into serious sanctions.”……That can be said about any school including UGA.
“Saban has NEVER been able to win without tilting the tables his way. He has to have an unethical advantage. He has always done it in more ways than one . Alabama is in the top cheating schools of all time”…….another made up fact, that just reeks of pathetic lies and hurt feelings. How many times has Saban been placed under review by the NCAA? The Book Scandal at UA started under Shula and was stopped under Saban. Zero, that is the answer.
“Saban is smart and unprincipled. As long as he has unlimited resources and no administration constraints, it will be difficult for any school to outrecruit him or beat him on the field.” Glad you think you know how the UA Adminstration works and glad ot know you have a full understanding of the inner workings of the Capston.
All schools have issues, the decision made by each school directly reflects the committment to their athletic successes.
SEC Fact Finder
February 20th, 2013
11:37 am
“Capstone”
Columbus Dawg
February 20th, 2013
11:37 am
I can not believe that an ignorant Alabama D.A. is on a blog on an Atlanta GEORGIA newspaper blog calling someone a redneck. When have any of you backwards moron Bama idiots EVER seen a year where the University of Georgia Bulldog Football Team was not eligible for post season play, or not eligible to play it’s games on television. Not one. The University of Alabama Football Team however, due to NCAA infractions, were banned for post season play for the 1995, 2002, and 2003 seasons. Hey Bama, we ain’t skeered, and hope to see you soon.
Class of '98
February 20th, 2013
11:38 am
The gnashing of teeth over what Saban does at UA is pointless. They beat us by five points and five yards, and if the game were played a hundred times, UGA would have won half of them, if not more.
Stop panicking, Bulldog Nation, our time will come.
Columbus Dawg
February 20th, 2013
11:44 am
I almost forgot to mention that the Prez of the joke institution “NCAA”, Emmert is an old friend of Saban’s, but that probably has nothing to do with it. Bama and Auburn are cheaters and the state of Alabama is the biggest joke of the UNITED STATES. If you were going to give the United States an enema, you would have to go in through Alabama.
Buckeye
February 20th, 2013
11:46 am
class of 98,
Another classic example of dog delusions. 350 on the ground didn’t help the cause.
WDE
February 20th, 2013
11:47 am
GTBob we do consider that cheating and so does the NCAA hence the probation…thanks for playing!
WDE
February 20th, 2013
11:53 am
Buckeye speaking of classic example of delusions tell us again how your bunch would have won the NC if you could just have gone to a bowl game this year?? And are your bunch going to be allowed a bowl game this year or are you in time out till the 2014 season?
Come on now...
February 20th, 2013
11:54 am
Class of ‘98…
Yall have been saying that for over 30 years!
Bill King
February 20th, 2013
11:56 am
Max Sizemore:
Thanks for the concern, but it was Mark Richt who ate the Hot Dawg Delight, not me!
Vampire Bill
February 20th, 2013
11:57 am
I do like the idea of off field consultants and the place kicker point made earlier is an excellent example. Love to see our incredible Alumni NFL.ers working closely with the current Dawgs.
Under The Bleachers
February 20th, 2013
11:59 am
Columbus Dawg
February 20th, 2013
11:37 am
I can not believe that an ignorant Alabama D.A. is on a blog on an Atlanta GEORGIA newspaper blog calling someone a redneck. When have any of you backwards moron Bama idiots EVER seen a year where the University of Georgia Bulldog Football Team was not eligible for post season play, or not eligible to play it’s games on television. Not one. The University of Alabama Football Team however, due to NCAA infractions, were banned for post season play for the 1995, 2002, and 2003 seasons. Hey Bama, we ain’t skeered, and hope to see you soon
Columbus Dawg
February 20th, 2013
11:44 am
I almost forgot to mention that the Prez of the joke institution “NCAA”, Emmert is an old friend of Saban’s, but that probably has nothing to do with it. Bama and Auburn are cheaters and the state of Alabama is the biggest joke of the UNITED STATES. If you were going to give the United States an enema, you would have to go in through Alabama.
Columbus Dawg comments……
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This coming from a guy who lives in the States Largest Cheating Cesspool. Sending kids to Athens for official visits who steal out of the Locker Room, student athletes riding around with serial numbers shaved off handguns, high school coaches who have been caught recruiting other high school players, the use of illegal players, known payoffs to high school coaches to steer players to certain schools, theft of county funds to support athletes…and on and on…..
Too bad your obsession with other schools such as Alabama leaves you stale to focus on your own issues. That is what “Victims” do, they make excuses while failing to pick themselves up/
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Fan of College football
February 20th, 2013
12:00 pm
For Columbus Dawg>>15 National Championships umm How many does UGA have? Bizinga & BTW Wal Mart appreciates your business to purchase UGA items. Roll Tide & going for # 16 this year.. Those 5 yards you imbreds always whine about got your asses to a Sissy Bowl. So suck it up candy ass.
James
February 20th, 2013
12:02 pm
No, dude, what is ironic is that Georgia has tons of money, tons of talent but not NC’s. But I think you all have given up on that. Any other major SEC school, that would be an obsession.
You even supported a raise. The end of that SEC Champ game still bothers me, always will I suspect. Hated to even send in my contribution because I know as long as Richt is here, we will be good, but never champs.
JB
February 20th, 2013
12:03 pm
Hire extra help ay Georgia. You are kidding. Bobo has been making $350 a year for the last 3-4 years while the SEC is in the 500K to a million for the same job at other schools. The OC at Clemson…CLEMSON is a 1.3 mil per year. Dawgs are pretty cheap with the cash for some reason. Richt with a 750% winning percentage and the dean of SEC coach’s until a week ago was at about the bottom. VanGorder left after only being offered like a 10,000 dollar raise AFTER WINNING THE FRANK BROYLES award for nations best assit coach. Dawgs have always been cheap.
Columbus
February 20th, 2013
12:10 pm
As so many are forgetting, including columnists, the new coach Wilson is an experienced special teams coach so I would think that he would be the one who will now handle special teams coaching and/or managing other coaches who are coaching special teams….as far as kickers go, yeah they need special attention from a qualified coach or mentor-type
Bud
February 20th, 2013
12:10 pm
Should Nick Saban be banned from college football for his immoral and illegal behavior outside the football field. If Penn State was penalized should’nt Alabama be .
Class of '98
February 20th, 2013
12:11 pm
“Yall have been saying that for over 30 years!”
And it’s as true as ever.
I noticed you declined to state your allegiance. Probably because you root for a local Atlanta team who has beaten us once in about 13 years.
UGA89
February 20th, 2013
12:13 pm
I agree with the hiring of a ST coach and a new indoor facility but I’d also like to see improvements with Sanford Stadium. New flat screens at the concession stands and upgrades to the bathrooms!!!!
Class of '98
February 20th, 2013
12:13 pm
“you inbreds”
An Alabama fan accuses others of being inbreds? Harvey Updyke’s family tree is a straight line.
Bud
February 20th, 2013
12:14 pm
Is the rumor true that Steve Spurrier has hired Ray Golf as his new offensive coordinator?
Class of '98
February 20th, 2013
12:16 pm
“350 on the ground didn’t help the cause.”
I could come up with a clever retort if I had the slightest idea what this meant.
Isn’t Ohio State something like 0-for-14 against the SEC? The Arkansas game doesn’t count because the Suckeyes used ineligible players, and because, well, it was Arkansas.
Jim
February 20th, 2013
12:24 pm
IT DOESNOT MATTER! Even under existing rules, UGA significantly undersigns. Last year it was 17 and this year it was 5 that they undersigned. It would HELP, it UGA strapped it on and recruited to the max limit.
Come on now...
February 20th, 2013
12:24 pm
‘98,
I did state my allegiance, in my first post on the thread. Tech fan since the day I was born AND A GRADUATE (unlike the vast majority of your fans).
JB,
Although Clemson IS an ACC and much less high profile job than at UGA, it must be pointed out that he is probably being paid that much because he’s doing incredibly well at his job, unlike Grantham. If Grantham coached his players to the point of being worth $1.3 million per, you would have won that SEC championship game and subsequently the national title.
Tell the Truth
February 20th, 2013
12:26 pm
Does anybody know where Jan Kemp is these days?
Dirty Dawg
February 20th, 2013
12:27 pm
I think that the money would be better spent by hiring investigators to absolutely scour every Alabama ‘booster’s’ behavior…even the tree-killers…its bound to uncover a ton of crap…then just maybe the NCAA will castrate the bas$&ards. Of course the Tide would just form their own athletic association.
BKbroila
February 20th, 2013
12:27 pm
I, for one, do not agree with twisting the rules as much as Saban does…but the man is smart…I don’t think it’s ethical to have 5-10 “off field analysts” who are actually coaches, but I sure as heck wish CMR would have maybe 3 more on the payroll somehow…especially when you’re churning a $40-$60 million profit/year and need someone dedicated to special teams…
just sayin' it as it is
February 20th, 2013
12:27 pm
All Alabama has is it’s football program and it’s one race track. Think seriously, what has Alabama ever contributed culturally that has enhanced the US either musically, arts, mechanically, engineering wise, or anything. They haven’t. All they have is that football program and a bunch of people in Northern Alabama that handles snakes thinking it gets them closer to Jesus or something. I mean, come on, the country group Alabama got it’s name from a bar in Florida…
Come on now...
February 20th, 2013
12:28 pm
‘98 –
I’m not even a georgia fan and i know what that “350 on the ground didn’t help the cause” comment meant
GTBob
February 20th, 2013
12:29 pm
GTBob we do consider that cheating and so does the NCAA hence the probation…thanks for playing!
When did the NCAA say that we were cheating? This may shock you, but a minor rules violation is not the same thing as cheating. AJ Green selling his jersey was closer to cheating then what we DRad did.
beebee
February 20th, 2013
12:30 pm
Dawgs fans haughtily proclaim pride in “doing it right.”
Then, when Title hopes get dashed year after year after year, they whine and whine and whine and WHINE!
You’re no better than anybody else dawgsters.
And on the field, well, we know where you stand there as well.
Nice attempt at glory this past season, I’ll give you that!
Hey good to see you GTBob!
bee
just sayin' it as it is
February 20th, 2013
12:33 pm
all Alabama is going to do is focus on that football program, there is nothing else the state offers the US. When Saban retires or gets a coaching gig that pay him 8 million annually, he’s proven he’ll leave for more money, Alabama will fall into irrelevancy for a number of years. Every great school has proven you can’t follow a legend and win like him.
tony
February 20th, 2013
12:33 pm
Why do the fans in our state get upset when other schools work hard to do the best they can to build a successful football program for their fans? Don’t you people realize that uga is cheating our fanbase by spending(revenue over 70 million) less money to build a successful program than Ala, Fla, Sc, Lsu and Ark? I think the pass 2 seasons they went without a special team’s coach. Are you kidding me?
Arthur Blank is the only sports business man who seems to care about the fans in this state.
…………Stadium Capacity..Football Revenue
Univ. of Alabama 101,821……$71,884,525.00
Univ. of Georgia 92,746…….$70,838,539.00
Louisiana State .92,400…….$68,819,806.00
Univ. of Florida 88,548…….$68,715,750.00
Auburn Universit 87,451…….$66,162,720.00
U South Carolina 80,250…….$58,266,159.00
Uni of Tennessee 102,037……$56,593,946.00
Univ of Arkansas 76,000…….$48,524,244.00
Univ of Kentucky 67,606…….$31,890,572.00
U of Mississippi 60,580…….$28,409,774.00
Mississippi Stat 55,082…….$14,551,275.00
Vanderbilt Univ. 41,448…….$14,152,061.00
…………….Football Expenses
Univ. of Alabama $31,118,134.00
Auburn Universit $27,911,713.00
Louisiana State. $25,566,520.00
Univ. of Florida $24,457,557.00
U South Carolina $22,794,211.00
Univ of Arkansas $22,005,104.00
Univ. of Georgia $18,308,654.00
Un. of Tennessee $17,357,345.00
Vanderbilt Univ. $14,152,061.00
Univ of Kentucky $13,905,724.00
U of Mississippi $11,920,510.00
Miss State Univ. $9,951,097.00
……………..Football Profit
Univ. of Georgia $52,529,885.00
Univ. of Florida $44,258,193.00
Louisiana State .$43,253,286.00
Univ. of Alabama $40,766,391.00
Univ. of Tenness $39,236,601.00
Auburn Universit $38,251,007.00
Univ. of South C $35,471,948.00
Univ of Arkansas $26,519,140.00
Univ of Kentucky $17,984,848.00
Univ. of Mississ $16,489,264
Mississippi Stat $4,600,178.00
Vanderbilt Univ. $0.00
bubba4dawgs
February 20th, 2013
12:36 pm
Recruiting is where it all starts. I am pleased that the overall recruits includes a lot of talent; 1 – 5 star, 14 – 4 stars and 18 – 3 stars. It’s a matter of coaching them up. I think the DAWGS will be OK this fall. I don’t expect them to win them all. I believe they will be lucky to win the East.
Back to recruiting, Sabn seems to have it all together and will be plucking the prime ones from the state of Georgia hereafter. As long as he keeps winning, he’ll get the players and simply reload every year. UGA needs to get deeply connected with the high schools in Georgia and get the coaches to talk up UGA and get the kid’s parents involved too.
Whiskey Breath
February 20th, 2013
12:36 pm
So it is always about evil Saban huh? Instead of demonizing the man, why don’t you just tip your hat to the guy and try to learn from the guy. You know and I know, if you took everything away from him,
he would still figure out beat you. You are stuck with Brother Richt, that is just how you guys roll.
No chance he might be responsible for you not winning anything of significance?
Old Fan
February 20th, 2013
12:36 pm
UGA talks the biggest game in the SEC, with the help of The AJC as their mouthpiece. I was told personally (name withheld) by a former Asst. Coach that served at both UGA and Auburn that UGA’s facilities were not even in the same league as Auburn’s. No indoor facility and meager practice facilities. What is their problem?? Certainly not the $$$. Comments welcome. This is not a bashing post, just a reality check.
monty
February 20th, 2013
12:37 pm
It would seem that recruiting is the name of the game since everyone is so paranoid about it. You have to invest in the movers and the shakers, why not get Tony Robbins as you’re main recruiter? Get the best salesman in the world. Get a Zig Zeiglar type. Recruiting seems to be more about personalities than teams. Example: “I want to play for Rodney Gardner at Auburn versus my in state team. So, get the biggest most convincing figure arround to spread your doctrine far and wide. Of course winning NC’s might help too.
just sayin' it as it is
February 20th, 2013
12:40 pm
I wouldn’t boast about Tennesee’s “profit” off of football, word came out about 2 months ago that Tennessee’s athletic program is 200 million in the hole, they are in real trouble.
AU Liberal in ATL
February 20th, 2013
12:44 pm
Alright Columbus, you’ve said something stupid that needs to be corrected. I hate Saban and bama and bammers just as much if not more than anyone and I really don’t give a damn what you say about them, true or not. But I’m here to tell you that the only difference between the state of Alabama and the state of Georgia is Atlanta. Without Atlanta, Georgia IS Alabama. I spent 25 years there and I’ve spent 33 years here and I know what I’m talking about. And that’s not all, you can add Mississippi to the mix.
Under The Bleachers
February 20th, 2013
12:48 pm
Columbus Dawg,
You have One Big Problem, You make up lies, stories and theories that best suit your byline.
When you stop making up fictitious stories the sooner others will stop calling you out on your outrageous lies. You are who you are, and your apparent lack of understanding how the internet works( where practically ANYONE can research your statements) is your biggest downfall.
Stop making up lies, and others would let you move along with your agenda.
Holy Guacamole
February 20th, 2013
12:51 pm
Saban is agressive in walking the line between glory and probation and on any given year, could fall either way. Sooner or later it will probably catch up with him. UGA seems to want to do it right but I do agree that they need to enhance their recruiting efforts because the game has changed(especially with Garner gone now), build an indoor practice facility (they should have “state of the art” facilities) and spend some bucks on a special teams ‘consultant/analyst or whatever you call them’. But like some of the other posters, I do not want the UGA program to be anything except above reproach, even if that means that guys like Saban hold up a crystal ball on occasion.
WDE
February 20th, 2013
12:51 pm
Bud I’m a UGA fan and I’d punch you in the mouth for equating Penn State’s covering up child abuse with anything Bama has done in the past I’m hoping it was a terrible attempt at humor but no one is laughing.
Whiskey Breath
February 20th, 2013
12:52 pm
Bill you do have it right about Saban, he is evil. He plays dirty, . He uses a work ethic and intelligence
to get ahead. I can see why you guys spend so much time in trying to bring him down.
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WDE
February 20th, 2013
12:55 pm
GTBob so now your probation was for what exactly ? You broke the rules how is that not cheating..?
Pitbull
February 20th, 2013
1:00 pm
Ah, The University of Alabama….almost as good as going to college and the football team is to kill trees for.
All of you Bama fans come out of your trailers and yell “Nick Saban rules.”
Grantham's The Man!
February 20th, 2013
1:02 pm
It’s high time that UGA get’s on the ball and hires some extra Coaches!
Do everything that you can, as long as it doesn’t cross the ethics line. Saban will still have his advantage (Oversigning) but UGA needs to do everything within reason.
Joey
February 20th, 2013
1:08 pm
Hire some help. Bama (Saban) already had 3 times the number of assistants by naming them analysts support staff.
We make roughly the same money, but Bama spends almost twice as much.
Keep up or be prepared to get left in the dust, McGarity.
Old Dawg
February 20th, 2013
1:09 pm
I don’t care which school it is, what conference it’s in and any thing else, this legislation is nuts. While there are too many rules for any human to comply with on a daily basis, just throwing away the rule book and saying “have at it isn’t the way to go.”
High school recruits and their coaches have complained for years about the continual bombardment of recruiting calls, letters etc, etc.
Quite frankly, a 17 or 18 year-old has enough going on trying to qualify, schools where family and friends have easy access to travel and other issues without being hammered with unlimited sales pitches.
If this goes the way I think it will, college recruiters will make good fellas look like polite and rational sales people.
Can I vomit now?
UGA is for LOSERS
February 20th, 2013
1:11 pm
Whle you little sissies cry on the schoolyard Bama will just keep winning while PLAYING BY THE RULES. Your d-bag of a coach is lazy as hell but ya’ll can’t admit that of course…so you attack those with success. And I think it’s funny that you idjits think these recruits and their families have no idea what Saban will do with their son…yet they keep coming to be 5th in line at RB instead of start at UGA. Hmmmmmmmm…keep crying and wailing along with your HOMER beat writers like Crvall, Schultz and Bradley. Bama will keep filling the crystal case.
1980 and counting…but hey 5 yards and almost and woulda coulda shoulda blah blah blah!
Slick Nick
February 20th, 2013
1:17 pm
Catch me if you can!
Typical UGA blog
February 20th, 2013
1:17 pm
Bammer cheats! They got the NCAA, refs, and local PD in their pockets! How come nobody listens to us?!? We KNOW they are cheating! I heard it from a friend of a cousin of a girl who knew a guy that had a sister that saw Ferris Bueller pass out last night at 31 Flavors!
Saban won’t be at Bama more than a couple years! NCAA is about to it Bama with probation! Dodge Chargers! Free suits! Fishing trips! Book it! Take it to the bank!
WDE
February 20th, 2013
1:22 pm
UGA is for LOSERS if you don’t like our ‘Homer” writers stay off their blogs its simple even for a Bama fan ….
GTBob
February 20th, 2013
1:23 pm
GTBob so now your probation was for what exactly ? You broke the rules how is that not cheating..?
We are on probation because DRad shared some information with CPJ that he shouldn’t have in the middle of an investigation. It was reported to the NCAA that the conversation took place and the NCAA hammered us for it. I’m not sure how you twist that into cheating. Cheating is intentionally doing something you shouldn’t to gain some advantage that you shouldn’t have. How did that happen in our case?
UGA is for LOSERS
February 20th, 2013
1:23 pm
Nope. As long as your d-bag writers keep flinging crap against the wall I will be here to call them out on it.
threeleggedbulldog
February 20th, 2013
1:36 pm
like Alvin Kamara said, the culture at Bama is totally different than in Athens. At Bama, football is EVERYTHING. Here, its big, but there’s “more to life than football”. Listen to our leaders; Adams, McGarity, Richt…sure they want to win, but there is perspective in how you go about it.
At Bama, the only perspective that matters is winning championships, and, however you do it, as long as it doesn’t get you in trouble, is acceptable.
It takes a village to win big year in and year out, thats what they have in T-town.
Tarzan
February 20th, 2013
1:41 pm
That mean ‘Ole Nick Saban. Every program needs an excuse to fail. For what it’s worth, Texas A&M is going balls out on this more than Alabama.
Bama Mike
February 20th, 2013
1:44 pm
Bill: From all of us thanks for going back to the old format.
jacob
February 20th, 2013
1:44 pm
love how uga fans are saying how they almost won last year and a national championship is right there.. you are forgetting your team last year was ur best and it was loaded w talent while bama was rebuilding and you still didnt beat them..
Tarzan
February 20th, 2013
1:45 pm
“Bill you do have it right about Saban, he is evil. He plays dirty, . He uses a work ethic and intelligence
to get ahead. I can see why you guys spend so much time in trying to bring him down.”
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Most accurate post on here…and I’m an LSU fan stuck in Atlanta.
59bulldawg
February 20th, 2013
1:46 pm
I think we need to pony up and come into the 21st Century. We have the resources to turbo charge our recruiting just like Bama. Let’s do it! BTW I like your brother Jon’s idea about the cole slaw but would replace the cheese with mustard and a little diced onion and black pepper. LOL!
Milledgeville DAWG
February 20th, 2013
1:46 pm
Are you listening Mark Fox? Get Jarvis Hayes involved so the Atlanta talent goes to Athens.
UGA is for LOSERS
February 20th, 2013
1:46 pm
“More to life than football.”
Yep, all Bama fans and alumni do is watch football games from the time they wake up in the morning to the time they go to sleep. Nothing, and I mean nothing, else. We just sit around in a big circle and jerk it to old football games.
The excuses from you Mutts get weaker and weaker every day…kinda like 1980 keeps getting farther away in your rear-view mirror.
The Masked Superstar
February 20th, 2013
1:50 pm
Here’s a 9 point plan to improve UGA’s performance on the football field:
1. Move Coach Ball to the recruiting office and hire Hines Ward as receivers coach. What aspiring WR wouldn’t want to play for Hines? UGA and NFL legend. Coach Ball has done an amicable job but Hines would boost credibility tenfold. Or move Coach Ball back to RB Coach and move Coach McClendon to the recruiting office since he’s become a very good recruiter.
2. As someone mentioned, have Kevin Butler serve as an analyst for the Kickers. Another UGA and NFL legend bringing high credibility.
3. Get a state-of-the-art indoor practice facility complete ASAP.
4. Recruit the max number of recruits each year. 17 one year and 30 plus the next year is crazy. Be as consistent as possible.
5. Have the recruiting office identify potential high yield recruits beginning their 9th grade year in High School and maintain contact up until just before signing day. Continuous evaluation and quality control would be a must.
6. PR & advertising. UGA Football should be on all Georgia TV stations as well as border states constantly. Keep the “G” out there with radio spots and billboards too.
7. Use famous Georgia Alumni (Herschel, Kevin Butler, Thomas Davis, etc.) in the recruiting process, especially those who have played in the NFL.
8. I think it’s being done but model the Strength & Conditioning after NFL S & C programs. Expand the facilities too.
9. Marketing the program. Show up at as many High School games as possible with kiosks to promote the program. Be at the High School Championships at the dome with a massive presence.
Comes down to Promoting, Marketing, Recruiting and Selling the program to potential recruits. Get on them in 9th Grade and put the hammer down.
USC Jimi
February 20th, 2013
1:51 pm
Let’s talk about solutions! 1) Draft NCAA legislation that holds head coaches liable for any and all violations by their staff! They hire the assistants. They make millions of dollars. Make them accountable! Make the penalties follow them from school to school. 2) Make freshmen in-eligible to play varsity sports. It worked for many years, why not today? Give “student athletes” a year to adapt to higher education before putting them in the spotlight. I’m just sayin…
59bulldawg
February 20th, 2013
1:53 pm
Like the way you think Superstar!
Heisenberg
February 20th, 2013
1:55 pm
“Some school is going to want to get on the high dive…….
Well UGA has the coach that can compete with any when it comes to the high dive. When was the last time little nicky satan went off the 10 meter board?
Beast
February 20th, 2013
1:59 pm
We are going to rename the dogs to The Georgia puppies. I have never heard so much whinning .
gbal
February 20th, 2013
1:59 pm
Two issues here….. One is laying off the kids and their lives. Two, why not have some level of control over spending by the schools, first just to control spending and second to maintain some parity in college football. Money talks…. If UGA, Bama, LSU, FLA others have no cap on what they cand sped for coaching staff, recruiting, …. they will continue to leave the mid level schools in the dust. I really dont think we want this in college football. Not good for the game.
Staff should be controlled.
Contact with recruits should have some limitations.
Early signing period should be implemented.
The oversigning should be controlled.
sly dawn
February 20th, 2013
2:04 pm
The mission of this athletics department should be the absolute destruction of Alabama’s football dynasty, albeit, by spending money and on the field, not by petty legislation. Schools need to stop whining and learn how to adapt and overcome.
funny...
February 20th, 2013
2:06 pm
No reason Georgia should have to take a backseat to anyone in recruiting.
Georgia is continuously in the top 10 in revenue and profit margin.
But then again it seems that Georgia is just fine with being “almost” there.
Almost as good as Florida in the 2000’s, almost as good as Alabama in the 2010’s, hell, Georgia could have taken the reigns in the early 80’s from the Herschel days, but it really seems that Vince had no idea how to parlay that success in to anything but a flash in the pan.
gbal
February 20th, 2013
2:07 pm
Start 9th grade??? Nuts superstar. I say just the opposite should be the case… Schools CAN NOT under any circumstance contact a highschool player in any way until the end of their Junior football season That would be January of their Junior year. NONE… no phone call, visits, text, nothin. End the chaos for kids and schools.
Mike
February 20th, 2013
2:07 pm
Bill, I honestly dont want to see UGA “step up” in this fashion. Michael Reed put it right…Bama is always on the verge of a violation that sends them into probation. It’s always been that way. They have a win at all cost attitude, and I am honestly a bit detested at that attitude at this level. We are still talking about amateur athletics here, not pro sports. Let Saban skirt the rules and win his championships. UGA still is recruiting the talent necessary to compete with him. Murray and Gurley may not have been 5 star rated, but they play as good if not better.
funny...
February 20th, 2013
2:09 pm
The Chicago Cubs continue to sell out games without winning anything in 105 years.
Begs the question, why change anything? If you can sell out your stadium and deliver your product cheaper then why spend more?
Why on earth would the Cubs or Georgia change their formula. As a business, they’re crushing Alabama. Georgia makes the same (roughly) amount of $$$ as Bama with (roughly the same) profit margin with a cheaper product.
The only thing that changes the culutre at a place like Georgia is if the fans stop settling with 8-4 to 10-2.
gbal
February 20th, 2013
2:10 pm
SLy – But why not cap the spending in some way. It is unnecessary a never ending pit. The rich (including UGA) will get richer and others will be left behind. Parity is important to the game same as NFL. Got to hae some restraint or limits.
JB
February 20th, 2013
2:18 pm
I’m all Dawg but I think Saban cares more about his legacy than to pull some stupid stunt to ruin it. And all the guy does is win and he proves it. He gets what he was hired to do, and just like in big business, whines and snifflers come in last and are usually weeded out. Saban was hired to win championships……and he does. Any thing else is just crap…..GO DAWGS.
The Masked Superstar
February 20th, 2013
2:23 pm
“Start 9th grade??? Nuts superstar. I say just the opposite should be the case… Schools CAN NOT under any circumstance contact a highschool player in any way until the end of their Junior football season That would be January of their Junior year. NONE… no phone call, visits, text, nothin. End the chaos for kids and schools.”
Not saying they should be ridden like a government mule. Check them out, send them a letter that your watching them, send them a letter quarterly and perhaps at thier birthday if it’s known. Just let the kid know they’re on your Radar. This is where contiuous evaluation and quality control would come in. If it looks like the kid isn’t going to fit the program, then quietly back off. It’s that simple.
FOTBALDAD
February 20th, 2013
2:30 pm
Don’t you think as high profile as Bama is if they were cheating wild west style they would have been caught by now? I am a Bama alum and season ticket holder and I like Georgia (and my father went to Auburn). If you feel it necessary, light a fire under CMR and Georgia. If you feel your time is coming and our time is going, leave things as they are. Some of these posts are really over the line. When people say football is all we care about and then hurl insults, it makes them look small.
JB
February 20th, 2013
2:40 pm
FOTBALDAD…… Any Dawg fan bashing Saban is standing on their weedy lawn looking over at the beautiful lawn of Bama’s. I use to bash him, but I’ve come to admire what he has done. Georgia has done a lot less with a lot more. The only difference in the results of the two programs is coaching. Not the weather, the money, the location, the stadium, the players available, the water, the gym. NOTHING but coaching.
slydawg
February 20th, 2013
2:52 pm
I said this years ago, right here on this very blog: As long as Georgia’s athletics department continues to maintain this profit margin, then it’s just business as usual. They will never demand anything more than being second and sometimes third fiddle in the SEC. When and if that profit margin shrinks just a “wee” bit, then Richt’s and BoBo’s job will be in jeopardy. What incentive does Adams, McGarity, or anyone else in the Georgia Athletics Association (ahem, “stockholders”), want to win any championships if the money will still look the same at the end of the day. This article right here says one thing to me: Never, and I mean Never expect this University to even sniff a National or Conference Championship unless it is either a down year for the dominant teams or they back their way in the game.
slydawg
February 20th, 2013
2:57 pm
As far as the recruiting rankings are concerned? All fluff. Texas, USC, Michigan, Ohio St., and FSU continue to maintain high recruiting rankings full of fluff too. Why? Easy. Their respective states and pipelines produce more “highly rated” in-state talent than everybody else. Just look at the past 10 national champions. Those rosters were made up of players from all over the country.
Allen
February 20th, 2013
3:02 pm
Strive to be the best in everything . . . spend the money we have to upgrade facilities, starting with an indoor practice facility . . . hire the very best coaches and assistants; pay them well . . . and win championships . . . then the best recruits will want to come play for a winner . . . not the runner-up . . . it is not rocket science.
deaconblues
February 20th, 2013
3:07 pm
Hey Columbus Dawg, can you say SCOREBOARD?
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 20th, 2013
3:10 pm
This program has a FLAT TIRE and will continue to have a FLAT TIRE because of the whining leadership that we have had for years that do nothing but make excuses and think people are cheaters just because they are more creative than they are
But hey our leadership extends contracts and gives pay raises for no championships just another 10 win season
What a joke
truth teller
February 20th, 2013
3:10 pm
the AL dung pile just keeps getting bigger and bigger. And buck toothed clowns on this board will cheer “Roll Tide”. And wonder why AL is in the cess pool of the nation.
Joey
February 20th, 2013
3:10 pm
Gotta laugh at Urban’s little boy, Buckeye.
Yaps his mouth about Jan Kemp, while his cheating fav is on NCAA Major Probation.
Hey fruitcake, at least we cleaned our classrooms up. You dirtbags have cheated from way back.
Urban Myer!
Urban Myer!
Urban Myer!
LMAO
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 20th, 2013
3:12 pm
slydawg
I couldnt have said it better myself; that is the truth
good post
truth teller
February 20th, 2013
3:14 pm
@Allen
“Strive to be the best in everything . . . ”
Except jobs and education. You damn fool.
Crank bait
February 20th, 2013
3:24 pm
Seriously? Can’t believe what I’m reading. Whining about Bama will NOT win SEC and National Championships for UGA. Bama, Texas A&M, LSU –those are simply yardstick for UGA to measure itself against. Stop complaining about the length of the measure, just do what you gotta do to move up the yardstick. If you’re happy at about 2 1/2 feet, so be it. The other schools will not come down to meet you there, and your view of the CFB world will not change
JB
February 20th, 2013
3:24 pm
It is a wonder the Athletic dept. drips in money, but hires/pays on the cheap. Look around at other ACC AND SEC programs at the pay compared to ours………..But I know in football at UGa you have a job for life unless you are forced to fire someone. Grantham is the exception.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 20th, 2013
3:32 pm
At UGA you have a lifetime contract if you
Beat a meaningless, has been, Div III level GT football team
Win 8-10 games
Come up with catch phrase like “Knocking on the Door To Greatness” “Society of the Miserable” and “Dream Team”
truth teller
February 20th, 2013
3:34 pm
@JB
February 20th, 2013
3:24 pm
“It is a wonder the Athletic dept. drips in money, but hires/pays on the cheap. Look around at other ACC AND SEC programs at the pay compared to ours”
The words of a damn ignorant fool.
zbulldawg
February 20th, 2013
3:37 pm
The only thing I would like to share right now is This offense will be AWESOME.The defense will be all Todd’s players & will be coached under one system. The specail teams still worries me. This defense will be just as strong but quicker & faster. So let’s LET THE BIG DAWG EAT
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 20th, 2013
3:41 pm
truth teller
Thats right enough said I dont live in delusionalville Ga unlike you do
I bet you wear your Red, Black, White, Grey and Pink 10 Win Season National Title Shirt to work every day
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 20th, 2013
3:44 pm
Yea I bet the defense will be like they always are
Giving up 30 pts to top 20 teams like they always do and at the end of another season Grantham will be wanting either another pay raise or to move on to the NFL
Bill King
February 20th, 2013
3:48 pm
Bama Mike:
Actually this blog has not changed format. But it probably will eventually. Not my call.
Bill King
February 20th, 2013
3:52 pm
Whisky Breath:
I do not think Saban is evil or that he plays dirty. I’m not a fan of his oversigning and grayshirt practices, but he is doing what the rules allow.
intheknow
February 20th, 2013
4:08 pm
Stood in line today at lunch in back of some Bama supporters. They had braided hair, whiskey smelling breath,pants pulled down to thier crotch,and a Bama hat on turned backwards…Yep they were Bama fans alright…even had a Bama sticker on thier jacked up Impala that had tires on it that were so oversized it made the car ride twice as high as it was supposed to…..Man it must be great to be a Bama fan….and I thought they were gonna rob the place until I saw them pull thier money together to split a 3 piece meal…..All I could think of after that was I bet Nick Saban would be proud of how resourceful they were….I bet that chicken tasted good with that beer they were drinking in their car….Man to be a Bama fan!…They got the world by the tail and are proud of it!
BAMABABE
February 20th, 2013
4:09 pm
love seeing all the hilarious haters talking about Saban…someone explain to me why yall keep saying hes cheating by hiring great recruiters to jobs that NEEDED filling at the University?? there have never been any players past or present that have said anyrthing other than positive things about Coach, thats hes actually quite different with them off the field, that he cares about them and has heled them to become better players, students, and men…yall would LOVE him if he was your coach and dont give me that Mark Richt is a christian and thats why hes better than Saban crap, bc our WHOLE team goes to church on sundays together,& Saban goes to Mass EVERYDAY. religious beliefs dont win championships and Saban is doing whatever he needs to within the rules of the NCAA to make BAMA a winning team with lasting success. if thats soooo wrong then i dont want to be right….keep hating and we’ll keep winning…rtr
tony
February 20th, 2013
4:12 pm
Saban wins at all cost? Every team that ask a kid to put on a uniform is trying to win at all cost because football is life threatening with the possibility of long term effects of concussions after football. Lets not kid ourselves, every university understand this but since college football has become a multimillion dollar industry they ignore the dangers.
LakeDawg
February 20th, 2013
4:15 pm
I for one don’t wish to follow Saban down the sinkhole of sleaze. I don’t care if Bama wins 20 NC’s in a row. If UGA does decide go down that path, I will just give up watching college football.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 20th, 2013
4:15 pm
Im not hating on Bama I just wished we had leadership that knew how to run a championship program
Instead we have a bunch of whining finger pointers who dont know how to run a successful organization
just the facts
February 20th, 2013
4:22 pm
slydawg and flat tire wouldn’t know their head from thier azz if someone didn’t tell them….neither have ever played football in thier life….but like to pretend they did and know so much about the game. I’ll bet neither one of them ever attended collge…..how’s that lawn mowing job working out for you guys?
Truth
February 20th, 2013
4:26 pm
Someone have any cheese to go with this “Wine”.
TJ
February 20th, 2013
4:27 pm
We will not jump in. UGA has been, is, and always will be tight fisted and conservative which is a great way to run a government but when it’s a competitive situation is not going to yield continuous success. We have failed to close the borders the past few years, and it will continue to happen as we sit by, sit on our war chest and hope that we can continue to keep pace by doing nothing differently.
G-Man
February 20th, 2013
4:31 pm
Columbus Dawg – And the state of Georgia is great?? This coming from someone who lives in a Georgia equivalent of Montgomery. Like I’ve said before, you take Atlanta out of Georgia and you don’t even have the state of Alabama. Get over your hatred of Alabama and just own up to the fact that UGA has ALWAYS been and will ALWAYS be behind the UA when it comes to football.
BrandoninAL
February 20th, 2013
4:34 pm
columbus dawg:
It’s incredibly comedic that you, some mouth-breather from COLUMBUS has the audacity to call anyone anywhere inbred and/or backwards. Let’s get one thing straight: There is Georgia and then there is Columbus. Atlanta, Macon, Savannah…nice towns. Alabama has it’s obvious faults, but Columbus is a dump and EVERY time I was unfortunate enough to HAVE to be there, I actually RACED as fast as the law allowed back to Alabama. I’m no Alabama fan, but I certainly can respect what they do. I firmly believe EVERY major D-1 football programs bends and breaks rules (including Alabama and Auburn), but the pot is calling the kettle black if any fan of UGA accuses ANY other school of the same…
Say What GT Bob?
February 20th, 2013
4:35 pm
Techs not good at cheating? Well that is true… because their Football team has really Sucked! What Tech is good at is Cheating and getting on probation and 2 this century and Tech is still on probation. What say you GT Bobby?
Joey
February 20th, 2013
4:35 pm
Flat Tire, the truth is nobody knows how to “run a championship program” but Saban. Myer won two, but has looked silly w/o Tebow.
Les inherited a Bama-like LSU program from Saban, but has done little on his own.
Saban is one of a kind.
But, if McGarity would open the checkbook and put another $15M in the program, although we would still be well below Bama’s spending, we would on the path to closing the gap.
With about 30 more top of the line analysts and support staff, hopefully replacing some position coaches, we would be on the way to at least cementing a Top 2 postiion in the SEC, which usually positions you in the Top 3 in the country.
For whatever reason (Adams?) it appears McGarity is trying to fight the inevitable.
He apparently is under the illusion that SC, Vandy, Ole Miss and others won’t put out the money to try to even the odds with Bama, UF and LSU.
Take the high road, McGarity, sit on your hands, and you will find your football program “back in 90’s.”
Truth
February 20th, 2013
4:35 pm
G-Man speaks “The Truth”. I have no problem with people accusing AL of anything. What does bother me is for you to think that your school does not do the same thing. The fact that they are winning is what bothers you. If Al were cheating and a below .500 team, we would hear nothing out of you. It would be another team that is cheating. Get over it folks and “TCB”.
Say What GT Bob?
February 20th, 2013
4:38 pm
G-man…and you take Birmingham out of Alabama and you don’t even have Mississippi!
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 20th, 2013
4:40 pm
Joey
If Meyer came to UGA he would put us in the championship race
same for Spurier Peterson and I believe Patterson as well
James
February 20th, 2013
4:46 pm
I don’t know any Dog fans that dislike Saban. They don’t like him beating us, but he’s a good winner and loser. On the other hand I don’t know any Dog fans that like that jerk over in Columbia. He’s a bad winner and a sore loser. Saban said nice things about Georgia after the SEC Champ game. I wish like chit we had him.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 20th, 2013
4:46 pm
just the facts
I tennis fan from France can see this program isnt sniffing a championship until things change
wear your 10 Win National Title T-shirt with pride
barrow dog
February 20th, 2013
4:49 pm
don’t know re the best for the recruits, all i do know is that if we want to run with the big dogs we’ve got to pee in the tall grass. if the falcons chose not to spend equal to the competition everybody would go nuts… what’s the difference?
ATLien Dawg
February 20th, 2013
5:11 pm
This is making me like college football less. I hate the recruiting process to begin with. It has a negative impact on life, not a positive one.
I wish recruiting would become more restrictive, not less.
Jay Crooner
February 20th, 2013
5:12 pm
Flat Tire… See, that’s the difference between a lot of us and you. Some of us don’t feel the need to make a deal with devil just to win a National Championship. And yes, I consider Urban and Spurrier to be “devils.” Urban quit on his team when the going got tough and Spurrier is simply an ass. If you feel that way, then go support Ohio State or South Carolina.
The bottom line is that in the college coaching landscape, it is Nick Saban and everyone else. God bless him! He has had more success at the college level than anyone else. His program is top notch, his recruiting is stellar, and he has total control over what happens to any of his players in Tuscaloosa. As Rick Flair used to say: “To be the man, you have to beat the man.” We came close, but did not clear that hurdle.
ATLien Dawg
February 20th, 2013
5:17 pm
I’ll also say that just b/c you’re not breaking rules (or the law), that doesn’t necessarily mean you’re ethical.
Saban is an unethical piece of trash. Spin it any way you want.
OneHairyDawg
February 20th, 2013
5:33 pm
All that and we still came within 5 yards and 4 points with 16 less sholarship players. Make no mistake, the Dawgs are here to stay.
Whiskey Breath
February 20th, 2013
5:56 pm
You know Bulldykes, I know more about your crappy school than you do.
Ga has been the second biggest money maker for the last 10 to 15 years.
Texas has been the number 1 money maker.
Instead of Ga reinvesting that money in facilities, equipment, etc,
they put in back in the general fund of the school.
So that is why you have had crappy facilities, your school elected
to keep the money. You should know that better than me, you bulldykes.
Bama has reinvested their money wisely. Basically, you have inferior facilities.
alpharetta alice
February 20th, 2013
6:33 pm
Les inherited a Bama-like LSU program from Saban, but has done little on his own.
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Joey..Les Miles is 84-21 since he arrived in Baton Rouge in 2005…has won a national championship and 2 SEC championships…Richt since Miles arrived is 76-30, no national championships, and 1 SEC championship…none since 2005…LSU is 34-17 vs. top 25 opponents under Miles…we don’t really want to discuss Richts record since 2005 vs top 25 teams…and lets not forget 42-10..hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not 5 yards short bs…you won the first half bs, which is even funnier…
alpharetta alice
February 20th, 2013
6:35 pm
Georgia could sign a top 10 recruiting class every year and still not win anything…hey, wait….
10dawg34
February 20th, 2013
7:00 pm
First of all I can’t figure out why Alabama fans are always on a Georgia blog, and while you guys may be no 1 in football, you guys are also number one in the nation in trailer parks and number 48 in earnings per household only ahead of Mississippi and Louisiana. So what’s a Alabama degree really worth?
alpharetta alice
February 20th, 2013
7:40 pm
So what’s a Alabama degree really worth?
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shouldn’t that be “So what is an Alabama degree really worth?”…typical Georgian…
Fotbaldad
February 20th, 2013
7:41 pm
I bet a lot of you guys didn’t like Coach Bryant either. It probably bothered him as much as it bothers Coach Saban.
drive by dawg
February 20th, 2013
8:48 pm
There is no way to color McGarity as anything but a huge disappointment – guy doesn’t seem to get it and has magically turned into Wally Cleaver now that he’s left the protective wings of Jeremy Foley. Of course, McGarity is just symptomatic of the great Georgia tradition of doing less with more. Nobody is better at it than we are and it appears that won’t be changing any time soon. These guys are abdicating their “fiduciary” duty but no one will make them pay for it. It’s dumb and dumber over at BM – same as it’s always been.
Ron
February 20th, 2013
8:53 pm
I can see it now. Some high school player decides he wants to sign with another school and I can’t get him to change his mind. I just flood him with emails, texts and phone calls at test time, distracting him and causing him to fail. I don’t get him, but you don’t either. He goes to small college for couple of years.
Lakedawg
February 20th, 2013
9:08 pm
@ugab—Check the CBS article on recruiting and culling if you want to see why Nicky is so successful.
FLA DAWG
February 20th, 2013
9:53 pm
In or out of the rules Saban / Bama have won, gone to the Big Dance and gotten the crown.
As an SEC fan I’m proud of them.
McGarity / Richt & Adams continue to look like fools in my opinion by being slow to act, wide eyed and mouthed at the changes that all anticipated.
We’ll never dance with The Homecoming Queen with McGarity, Adams and Richt as chaparones.
FLA DAWG
Class of ‘74
slydawg
February 20th, 2013
10:16 pm
So if McGarity came to Richt and said, “We’re increasing the spending budget by $5 million dollars, and I want you to creatively find 3-4 more coaches or “advisors. Also, I want you to expand your recruiting bases,” would that be the same as making a deal with the devil? Is that exactly a “win at all costs” mentality? I don’t think so.
Mrs. Richt
February 21st, 2013
8:12 am
Do you really think that UGA is sitting on that 470 million, I am a true UGA fan but that stinks to high heaven……UGA is the most profitable school in the SEC and refuse to spend the mney needed on all of its athlectic programs….that should tell any kid and any parent that is looking at UGA that something is not clean in the wash at my beloved UGA. And I mean the stank is above the head of even Mark Richt…..the adminstration is hiding something at UGA and I am tired of it…I want our team to WIN!!!
I talk to recruits all over Dekalb county and they all say the same thing UGA is passive and didnt show interest in me……why are you so lax with your year round recruiting efforts????? It is becuase you refuse to spend the money needed to be the absolute best you can be!!!
IS EVERY POLITICAL, EDUCATIONAL, AND BUSINESS LEADER IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA CORRUPT?????
John Harris
February 21st, 2013
8:53 am
When all any of these guys have to do is pick the easiest major, take 9-12 hours a semester, then bide their time until they hit the 3 year mark, I’m not sure the term “student athlete” really applies to them. At least not the majority of those who actually make a difference. More like minor league football players. Spend baby spend.
Mambo
February 21st, 2013
9:07 am
I think that Richt needs to be as creative as Saban. If what Saban is doing is within the letter of the NCAA rules, by all means do it. But, if 4 of your team members commit felonies, don’t “suspend”. Kick them off the team and out of school so that they can plan for their continued lives of crime while in prison.
Mrs. Richt-Saban
February 21st, 2013
11:10 am
We need a championship…..we need a dynasty……..we need a new start……with Kirby Smart…
Hey that rhymed!! lol
Columbus Dawg
February 21st, 2013
11:11 am
Looks like it may be over for Kolton Houston. Felton says he is not currently with the UGA Football Team. Not on updated roster. Article says Houston tested positive three years ago on banned substance used for healing injury. NCAA says he can not play. Same NCAA says all Alabama players KNOWN to have taken banned substance for sole purpose of enhancing performance are A OKAY. THE NCAA HAS BECOME THE SECOND MOST CORRUPT GOVERNING BODY IN UNITED STATES, SECOND ONLY TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
Bamageddon
February 21st, 2013
1:26 pm
Georgia fans are pretty sad. You can’t compete with Saban on the field so you pretend you
Bill King
February 21st, 2013
2:38 pm
John Harris:
Your stereotype definitely needs updating.
Fifty-seven University of Georgia student-athletes were named to the Fall Southeastern Conference Academic Honor Roll– second most of any SEC school.
The Bulldog football team placed 38 student-athletes on the SEC Honor Roll which ranked first among all SEC schools — ahead of Vanderbilt.
And you do know that Georgia’s starting quarterback is a grad student working on his master’s/doctorate in psychology, right?
DAWGMAN
February 21st, 2013
4:47 pm
GO BIG or go home. Admit you’re getting your head handed to you. Stop whining about Saban. Take his lunch money, and make him cry. Get in the game! You bunch of babies.
Bama Fan#2
February 22nd, 2013
5:44 am
I HOPE Georgia makes it back the SEC CG so Alabama
can kick the dog crap out of the dawgs!! Reading some
of the crap from Georgia fans make the cow college fans
look and sound like MIT graduates!!! RTR
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 22nd, 2013
8:05 am
To sit and whine about Saban wow
what more can be said other than the Athletic Dept leadership is a joke
Hopefully Tennis, Golf, or Gymnastics can make us proud again
Boo Radley
February 22nd, 2013
2:46 pm
I agree with The Masked Superstar’s comments on page 2. Great ideas.
Bulldawg35
February 22nd, 2013
6:50 pm
I just can’t worry about our football team to much right now. Heck our baseball and basketball teams are so damn awful…..Perno should be fired right now…and I would only give fox one more year. Andy landers is doing a good job….but I expect the women’s team to crumble in the tournament as usual.
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legionaire
February 24th, 2013
8:01 am
The NCAA is a corrupt outfit that picks winners and losers. That said they want to make sure the big guns do not just up and form their own organization with a true playoff system. Alabama will so overwhelm other schools in spending their “championships” will have the meaning of pro wrestling.
As a UGA alum I am proud of the program Mark Richt has in place.