Dawgs’ 2013 recruiting class: Solid, but no superstars … yet (UPDATED)
Despite some disappointments, Mark Richt was all smiles Wednesday. (Associated Press)
When the King boys were young, there were two kinds of Christmas mornings.
There were what we called “bicycle” years, when the bounty delivered by Santa was dominated by a shiny new bicycle or some other major gift. And there were other years when there weren’t one or two spectacular gifts but instead we got a whole lot of things we wanted … and even a few we needed.
The years with a new bicycle might have been more exciting, but we never really thought we had a bad Christmas Day.
College football’s national signing day is a lot like that for the Georgia Bulldogs.
Some years the program is rewarded with a burst of national excitement generated by a highly ranked recruiting class topped off by couple of five-star players donning a UGA cap on national television.
And then there are years like this one, in which Mark Richt signed his largest class ever and filled just about all his program’s needs — what my Mom would have called “a very nice haul” — but didn’t get any five-star players and signed only two of the top 10 in-state recruits.
It wasn’t a “bicycle” year, in other words.
Yes, it was tough for Bulldogs fans to watch “SportsCenter” interrupted to show signing announcements by a string of top players, three from the state of Georgia — and none of whom signed with UGA.
Of course, running back Alvin Kamara going with Alabama was expected, and it wasn’t particularly surprising that defensive lineman Montravious Adams followed the man who recruited him for UGA, former defensive line coach and recruiting coordinator Rodney Garner, to Auburn. But the loss of much-needed offensive lineman Laremy Tunsil, long considered a lock for the Dawgs, to the sudden, mysterious recruiting mojo of “the University of Ole Miss” (as Robert Nkemdiche called it) was particularly hurtful.
And most of the top talent in Georgia leaving the state — in what’s considered one of the most bountiful years of high school players in quite a while, perhaps the best ever — is disturbing.
Looking at the bigger picture, while the loss of Garner at the height of recruiting season no doubt discombobulated UGA’s efforts a bit this year, the puzzling lateness with which the Dogs have approached some top in-state prospects in recent years, last year’s drastic undersigning (with only 17 players), and the continued lack of emphasis on signing offensive linemen — only four out of 32 players??!! — can be laid at least in part at his feet (along with the relative underperformance of a highly regarded defensive line this past season). So Garner leaving might prove to be a case of one step back this year and two steps forward in the future, with coaches who are more active and on top of things on the local recruiting scene taking his place.
The recruitment of Tunsil also was the latest example of UGA going with the high-risk you’re-our-guy strategy of making one top recruit their entire focus at a position — putting all their eggs in one basket. It worked with Isaiah Crowell at tailback two years ago (though it didn’t pay off in the end when he got kicked out of school and the Dawgs were left sorely lacking in depth), but was an abject failure with Tunsil this year. Watching UGA’s coaches scramble to try to come up with a Plan B when it became obvious Tunsil was going elsewhere was embarrassing.
Still, Richt and company signed a solid, deep class that especially addressed needs at linebacker and in the secondary, even if it was lacking in some of that signing-day which-cap-will-he-pick-up-off-the-table drama that ESPN promotes — and which has skewed media (and fan) perception of the class as a whole. It might not be close to the No. 1 class in the country as Richt defiantly hailed it Wednesday (the various rankings average out to No. 11), but, as Georgia’s head coach noted, “We took care of business in the areas that we needed. We got the guys that are very, very talented and are excited about being here.”
And once they actually start playing games, some of these players could well end up outshining those given five stars by the recruiting services.
Besides, those overall class rankings can be deceptive. Two words: Dream. Team.
Yes, perhaps the case can be made that the attention lavished on signing day’s late deciders is warranted because they tend to be among the best players who are recruited the hardest. Still, the horse-race style coverage tends to overlook some top-quality players who commit early and don’t waver.
Todd Grantham refused to end speculation about his future at UGA. (Associated Press)
Finally, what to make of this whole Todd Grantham soap opera?
While perhaps before signing day Georgia’s defensive coordinator might have seen the speculation about a possible NFL job as somehow enhancing his standing in the eyes of prospective recruits, it’s been reported that rival coaches used it against the Dawgs.
If he stays, you wonder why he endangered the signing of Davin Bellamy, Georgia’s main signing day triumph, by equivocating rather than coming right out and putting an end to the rumors. And if he’s truly leaving, then you have to figure he was at the very least disingenuous with some of Georgia’s signees, if he didn’t outright mislead them.
Frankly, Grantham’s continued dancing around the issue and refusal to say yes or no on signing day makes him look like a bit of a jerk.
UPDATE: I’m off for a couple of days but I stilll have one eye on Athens and was pleased to see that Grantham is staying at UGA … for the time being. That doesn’t mean, however, that I’ve changed my mind about the awkward, unnecessarily distracting way he handled this latest flirtation with the NFL. I’m just hoping the lingering uncertainty over Grantham’s future plans doesn’t come back to bite the Dawgs in recruiting defensive players for next year.
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SBC Pastor
February 7th, 2013
10:12 am
First?
dentaldawg83
February 7th, 2013
10:17 am
Coach Grantham has already done damage to his tenure in Athens. He better produce a better defense (especially against the run) than he has in recent years or he might just be shown the door.
SBC Pastor
February 7th, 2013
10:17 am
Frankly, I think recruiting ratings need to be taken with a grain of salt. As you point out, Isaiah Crowell was considered to be a 5 star recruit, and yet we got better after he was kicked off of the team.
I think we are better off with a large number of solid recruits than a smaller number of “the next Hershel Walker.”
Bridesmaid of the SEC
February 7th, 2013
10:25 am
Once again the dawgs come up short. Mr McGarity!, we were not even “In the Hunt” on some of the big time blue chippers down the stretch. Kool Aid drinkers are in in full force trying to sugar coat this poor showing as the national media is harping on why UGA cant land instate big time talent. Damage control run amok!
fishook dawg
February 7th, 2013
10:31 am
Avery Young last year, Laremy Tunsil this year. Can Will Friend recruit or what? The only reason we got Theius is because we signed his brother the year before. Maybe if an offensive line guy doesn’t have an older brother we can sign, maybe we just look away.
Spider29
February 7th, 2013
10:32 am
This is a good, solid class. The only player that I really regret that the Bulldogs didn’t get is Tunsil. Also, I think many people are overlooking the fact that some future stars are already enrolled at UGA. We didn’t have to wait on “pins and needles” for them to sign yesterday.
UGA Insider
February 7th, 2013
10:34 am
Dissapointing for sure but who cares.
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
10:38 am
That’s a bit harsh on Grantham. Of course it would have been to Georgia’s ultimate benefit for him to specifically clarify his role and plans as soon as possible but at the end of the day, his first responsibility is to what makes the most sense for his family and by extension, his coaching career. I’m sure with the position he’s in, it’s quite a juggling act to try to satisfy all interested parties and unless he outright lied to recruits or Coach Richt / Greg McGarity, I don’t have any issues with how it’s been handled thus far. Until he makes a move, his interest and desires for growing his job prospects are his business. I certainly wouldn’t want to stunt my opportunities to grow in salary, responsibility, and prestige simply because it would be temporarily inconvenient for my current employer.
Flo- Ri - Duh
February 7th, 2013
10:44 am
Garner appeared to be inept in recruiting in state talent in recent years. Time for him to move on. Even though Montravius Adams blamed Garner leaving UGA for his reason not to sign with UGA the fact is that UGA was 3rd on his list and if Garner had stayed at UGA then Adams would ha e gone to Clemson. So Garner leaving didn’t keep Adams from signing with UGA. All along Adams said he favored the 4-3 defense and didn’t like the 3-4. I am not sold on the 3-4 either as LSU, Bummer, etc have found a flaw in it in the run game. Just double team the NT, the DE and the OLB on whichever side you are going to and don’t block the other side at all. Grantham should go to the 4-3 on 1st and 2nd down to stop the run. UGA will not have a monster NT in 2013 any way. Adams is around 290 lbs and not big enough for a 3-4. Neither is Toby Johnson, Mayes, Adkins or Taylor.
BOB
February 7th, 2013
10:47 am
Again, the short term fix is to add 10,000 seats to Sanford stadium and build a state of the art indoor practice facility. Recruits look at the quaility and condition of the facilities,see for example Alabama’s $ 9 million weight room. Longer term, maybe Georgia’s AD may keep an eye on Charley Strong.
hws
February 7th, 2013
10:51 am
Bridesmaid needs to get a clue. UGA will be just fine. None of the top flight recruits were going to sign with UGA from the get go because of ties with the schools that they signed with. Thelone exceptioeing Tunsil????????????? Hmmmmmm…..
Perhaps going forward we will do a better job up front with these type of situations now that Garner is gone. From everything I have read he was a day late and a dollar short (no pun intended) with many top recruits.
In the end you are dealing with young men who often times are easily swayed. The best recruits to get are those with potential that have the desire to be a Bulldog and the fire to put in the work to get the job done. Mission accomplished. Would have been ice to have signed a couple of the guys yesterday but life goes on. Let’s write theirnames down and see where they are in 4 years,
swimdawg68
February 7th, 2013
10:51 am
I agree on Will Friend, wonder why we miss on top OL prospects. I was not sad when Garner left. I felt we have not done as well in recruiting as we should. Only signing 2 of the top 10 players in OUR STATE is just awful, something needs to be fixed. Hopefully this coach that replaced Garner will do a much better job. Quite frankly, I think Garner just got lazy. Glad he is now at Auburn
Bill King
February 7th, 2013
10:55 am
Bob:
I don’t believe it was facilities that drew Tunsil, et al to Ole Miss.
Flo- Ri - Duh
February 7th, 2013
11:04 am
Tunsil was PLAYED by Nkemdiche. Four 5 stars signed with Ole Miss. Nkemdiche ’cause his brother goes there and his mama is the boss in the family. Mama Nkemdiche dissed UGA because her oldest son was offered a scholarship “late” by UGA. The fact is the kid was NOT qualified academically to go to UGA until late in the process. Hugh Freeze did not sign Mama’s oldest boy – Houston Nutt did. Later Nutt got fired and Freeze inherited an opportunity to get the so called #1 in the country. Time will tell on that. One of the other 5 stars signed is FROM Mississippi and one is from up north where there is no top in state football school. Nkemdiche is stuck at Ole Miss so he recruited the other 5 stars to help him out – it wasn’t Hugh Freeze. Mama Nkemdiche got her revenge on UGA for not accepting his commit early by getting Nkemdiche to talk the naive Tunsil in to signing with Ole Miss. When Tunsil went to Ole Miss for his “official visit” Freeze and Nkemdiche made sure all 3 other 5 stars were there to persuade Tunsil to go to Ole Miss. When Tunsil was on TV making his commit he laughed saying “now I have to learn how to block for the spread offense”. Why would an OL with the NFL in his future want to be on a team that runs the spread which is not used in the NFL. Tunsil was PLAYED. Nkemdiche and Freeze made sure that after Tunsil visited for his official that no other school would be able to talk to TUNSIL until after signing day. So Mama Nkemdiche got here revenge on UGA. Just business.
Since Vince
February 7th, 2013
11:05 am
I do think Bob could be on to something though. Falcilites that are upgraded can help in recruiting and also for gameday experience. Think UGA now needs to really upgrade around and underneath the Sanford Bridge which is very unique for college football stadiums. We need more fans to really get more involved during the dawg walk and inside the stadium. Reed Alley is very nice upgrade. Like to see more done around the bridge and bookstore.
oakisland
February 7th, 2013
11:09 am
Is Todd Grantham interviewing for the Saints job? I just heard this. If so, I think he should go even if he isn’t hired by the Saints. Lying to recruits is not acceptable. I’m a 69 grad and I love my dawgs but just not right.
Joey
February 7th, 2013
11:12 am
Well put,, GeoffDawg. I’ll add that if I were Grantham, the AJC would be the LAST place on earth I would give info to. At least 2 stories speculating about his leaving in the last couple days before NSD. Both without confirmation of an offer from ANYBODY. I’d probably say more than “no comment.”
Speaking of NSD, I guess you know you’ve arrived when you get maligned for bringing in a recruiting class rated 9th (Scout) and 10th (ESPN). No fewer than thirty 4-Star and 3-Star players in our class.
I wish we coulda got a couple of those big names, but what could our staff do short of kidnapping, to get them to sign?
By the way, ESPN reported that Ol Miss did this in the Tunsil case (you gotta laugh at the last sentence):
“But sources familiar with Tunsil’s recruitment did confirm to ESPN.com that the Rebels have offered a scholarship to his younger brother, Alex Weber, a lightly regarded junior receiver at Columbia High in Lake City, Fla. The Rebels offering Weber a scholarship isn’t a violation of NCAA rules. He wasn’t included among a list of 232 wide receiver prospects in Florida for the 2014 recruiting cycle.”
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
11:12 am
GeoffDawg
While I can agree with what you are saying about Grantham to some point about his career I trully believe he should be shown the door.
The guy held up the program limbo with his so called possible going to the NFL last year so according to him and his agent UGA should give him a raise to keep him which they did
Now here we are again and the program is being held up in limbo and he keeps dodging the question and recruits most likely made a decision based on him possibly not being here
The guy hasnt shown he is a good defensive coordinator since he has been here and yet he acts as if he has done something great
he needs to go
Flo- Ri - Duh
February 7th, 2013
11:13 am
Ole Miss isn’t on the rise. They were 7/6 last year and have been irrelevant for the last 40 years or so. Losing Tunsil hurt the most. I watched Adams in the state champ game and he was ineffective. Appears over rated to me. Kamara would have been good for depth but the fact is that Marshall and Gurley would have gotten 90% of the carries the next two years any way. TOP PRIORITY in the 2014 class is OL and DL………. #1 priority will be in state talent at OL – namely “ATLAS”.
chilidawg
February 7th, 2013
11:15 am
A nice, deep class. I think Kublanow and Kimbrough may have the biggest impact in this class.
JRW7
February 7th, 2013
11:16 am
CTG wants to go to NFL, let him go, we don’t need this crap at recruiting time every year! Let him leave NOW! This hurt UGA recruiting big time! GO TODD, leave us now!
Supes
February 7th, 2013
11:19 am
Tunsil’s decision was the biggest blow to the class…I agree with Bill King on this one, UGA has got to do a better job of getting multiple top rated players (at a position of need) rather than put all “the eggs in one basket” b/c it doesn’t workout most of the time.
I don’t wish the kid ill will for going to Ole Miss…but I do think he’s going to regret it down the road…who knows…maybe he’ll be content winning 8 or 9 games a year and finishing 3rd in the SEC West?
I guess UGA needs to adopt a new recruiting strategy…start offering to the “lesser brother” no matter what to lock up the “star one” when his day is due.
Dawg For Life
February 7th, 2013
11:21 am
Yes damage control is in full effect. They would have not recruited the guys they lost if they did not want them. So don’t try and sell us on that you got what you wanted. Ohio State and Aubrun got more top 10 players out of Georgia then we did. Someone needs to stand up and take responsibility and find a solution for our lack of closing the deals with these recruits. If its not the facilities then what is the issue that top players are deciding to attend other schools. I am a realist and don’t expect a National Championship every year but it has been 30+ years. What are we missing? I don’t want our new moto to be “just 4 yards short”. I just want us to take it to the next level, I am not satisfied with just being in the top 10 all the time.
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
11:22 am
Flat Tire, that may or may not be true but his value as a DC is up to Coach Richt and McGarity to determine. I was only responding to the assertion that Grantham made himself out to be “a jerk” over the last couple of weeks. While we may not like his agent playing hardball to leverage salary increase, etc, I believe that it’s still a routine and accepted part of the coaching profession and doesn’t rise to the level of being unethical by any stretch. My barometer would be that if you’re comfortable employing these tactics for the betterment of your own career, then it would be disingenuous to hold Grantham to a higher standard. Unfortunately, the business of coaching is often difficult to reconcile with the passion of coaching.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
11:25 am
Ole miss will be lucky if they finish 3rd in the West they have always been a joke program
Why would anyone want to go to program that is below the level of GT in a Conference with so many other great programs that has way better stadiums and facilities
SimpleDawg
February 7th, 2013
11:25 am
All of these ‘Potential” 5-Stars that signed amid fanfare and adulation bring no guarantees with them to their respective schools. We’ve signed some very highly touted, highly recruited players in the past 2 – 3 years that really haven’t panned out…..yet, and may never reach their “potential”.
Proper evaluation is the key. Just because everybody wants player X due to perception, based on who all is chasing him, doesn’t make him anything more than what he wants to become. Bama (Saban) seems to be very good at this, but even they miss on some.
The 2013 class Georgia signed has as much opportunity to produce star players as anyone else….it’s all within the person.
‘What’s most important in life is not what lies behind you, nor what lies before you, but what lies within you.’ A poor paraphrase of Ralph Waldo Emmerson, but you get the point.
Let’s see where we end up in 2 years.
On another note: How ’bout Nkemdiche’s “University of Ole Miss”….? Doesn’t that bring back memories of Danny Ford and “Clemson Tiger University”….? What a hoot!
Simply stupendous…..
Ghostaloco
February 7th, 2013
11:25 am
I think we have a great class…good kids that wanna be in Athens. Like Dooley said on ESPN…UGA had two top 10 recruiting classes rolled into one. 32 guys that wanna be there better than 25 questionable kids. That’s just my opinion though. GO DAWGS!
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
11:29 am
Also, I recognize that the timing of these coaching rumors was far from ideal but that’s not controlled by Grantham. Anybody with an eye to career advancement has to answer the door when opportunity knocks.
Joey
February 7th, 2013
11:31 am
Nice read here.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8923284/georgia-bulldogs-miss-top-targets-reload-32-man-recruiting-class
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
11:34 am
GeoffDawg
Again I can agree with that but concerning the UGA program or for any business, if an employee continues these types of things right after he was given a raise and yet he did nothing to show once again that he even deserved the raise in the first place; why is the Richt and Mcgarity allowing this to go on.
This hurts the program and the guy should be fired and shown the door; Grantham is showing he could care less about the program and its future
Why would anyone continue to employ a person who is showing that part of his time is being spent on finding another place of employment when he is only been here a short amount of time and that place has already bent to his demands just recently
gafanintn
February 7th, 2013
11:39 am
I think Grantham’s integrity has put a black-eye on the University. He needs to go b/c this will only hurt them next year as well on the recruiting trail.
gafanintn
February 7th, 2013
11:39 am
I think Grantham’s integrity has put a black-eye on the University. He needs to go b/c this will only hurt them next year as well on the recruiting trail.
Dawg_Mike
February 7th, 2013
11:46 am
As I recall Todd Gurley wasn a 5 star and did not get a lot of hype but I believe he led the SEC in rushing.
Jarvis Jones didnt get a lot of hype either, not did David Pollack.
Give me a team with a bunch of hungry 2 and 3 star guys anytime. They will also gell together and stay 4 years.
Grantham- your timing is poor just like your 3-4 drfense. time to go.
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
11:50 am
Flat Tire, that’s a question for Richt or McGarity to answer. Their responsibility is to weigh the contributions of Grantham to the program against his cost which could be construed as meaning his salary, his off-field distractions, and his potential for leaving the staff without penalty. Really, it’s just an evaluation of his value which fans may not always agree with. Personally, I think he’s got a few wrinkles to iron out (namely rush defense against top tier O-lines) but he also has shown a propensity for developing talent, successful risk based play calling, and for bringing a fiery tone to the defense that was for years lacking under Willie Martinez. I think he’s worth it and apparently so do other programs, NLF or otherwise, looking to fill staffing roles.
EgginDawg
February 7th, 2013
11:54 am
Bill- Before we call Grantham a jerk lets wait a bit and determine if there was contact by the Saints prior to Wednesday night. If there were, then I believe it is up to CMR/ Grantham/ UGA to be forthcoming with that information to recruits. IF it is determined there was no contact prior then I think Grantham has done nothing wrong.
Debating the fitness of CTG as D coordinator is another matter. It is obvious that rival coaches negative recruited UGA. I understand individual circumstances determine where folks go. I’ve never been a Rodney Garner fan due to his lazy recruiting phylosophy so while we lost out this year we can make some MAJOR strides in the future if we learn from his mistakes.
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
11:57 am
If you take any employer – employee relationship, it’s not unusual for a business to put up with a lot more crap from one of its top producers than it would from somebody just punching the clock. I will grant you that Coach Richt hasn’t always shown the decisiveness necessary to unload poor fits (ala Willie Martinez again) but based on his record thus far, I doubt McGarity would tolerate a whole lot of mediocrity within the staff.
Fred in Dunwoody
February 7th, 2013
12:00 pm
TG needs to go and take the 3-4 with him. What about Manny Diaz? (TX DC)
John McEachern
February 7th, 2013
12:02 pm
your calling Grantham a jerk is out of bounds! there is no way to correctly manage a process like ths. Richt and McGarity have it under control.It is also flattering to a prospect to have this happen. Is Kelly at Notre Dame a bigger jerk for interviewing with the Eagles? Even money, He stays at Georgia!
beanster
February 7th, 2013
12:02 pm
Is there a PR person for the Athletic Association? Or was that another responsibility of Rodney Garner’s?
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
12:24 pm
Geofdawg
Richt was forced to unload Martinez; Richt would have never let him go had it not been for the fanbase
Also Grantham is not a top producer; please go and look at how he performs against top 20 teams its not worth what we are paying his salary I can tell you that
Joey
February 7th, 2013
12:35 pm
“(Grantham) not worth what we are paying his salary I can tell you that”
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Boy, that NFL coach thinking of paying TG a lot more than “we” are paying him, must be a real idiot.
You should let him know that, Flat Tire.
dawggirl
February 7th, 2013
12:43 pm
From Rivals:
“This is the peak of situational losing. Georgia is sitting just outside of the top 10 in national recruiting, it yet is being considered among the losers on signing day. The program signed 32 prospects and averaged 3.47 stars per player, but it could not fend off many raiders inside of its own borders. In a year in which the state produced four five-star players — five if you count Reuben Foster because he transferred out of state as a senior — the Bulldogs landed none. They protected only two of the top 15 players within the state. Carl Lawson reaffirmed his commitment to Auburn, Montravius Adams joined him, Vonn Bell went to Ohio State and Laremy Tunsil — an offensive lineman from Florida whom the staff felt great about — chose Ole Miss. While the class is solid, and if other schools had this list it could represent a major victory, it is a tale of what could have been.”
I don’t know what to think or how I feel. One minute, I feel good about the overall depth and addressing our needs, then I read the above along wtih a teaser about how we are the rising program that is listed first under Losers of Signing Day. Frustrating.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
12:47 pm
joey
he must be cause I seem to remember Grantham was D coordinator for Cleveland then ended up as a D-line coach for Dallas; if he was that good he wouldnt have gone back in his career
and again what has he done so far at UGA other than being embarrassed by every top 20 team he has faced except 1 and that one had a joke offense all year
Joey
February 7th, 2013
1:12 pm
Call Coach Payton and tell the Super Bowl champion coach what a doofus he is.
Seriously, if you don’t think our D is eons better than it was from ‘06-’09, we are watching different games.
Ask Penkle, Muschamp, Franklin, Freeze, Chizik, PJ, even Saban and Pelini if Grantham can coach a D.
Saban had better players and much more depth, and Grantham shut Bama down in the first half, and made two big stops near the end of the game. He shut down Nebraska in the 2nd half. I’ll admit, we looked bad vs UT, and SC, but after the UK game, our D was as good as anybody’s.
Buddy, if you are looking for near-perfection, there’s only one team to follow – whoever Saban is coaching.
BOB
February 7th, 2013
1:13 pm
@ Bill: Based on what is being rumored/reporting here and in other media, you may be correct regarding Tunsil;however, going forward , consideration has to be given to any and every competitive advantage to attract the best athletes to Athens. Facilities as well as coaching are two of the most obvious plot points in my view.
GTBob
February 7th, 2013
1:22 pm
Richt is going to need better players then this to hide his lack of coaching ability. Dark days may be ahead dog fans.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
1:22 pm
eons better?
how is that when he gives up as many points as Martinez did
and Saban had better players on Defense ok I guess thats why ESPN kept showing all the 1st and 2nd rounders on our Defense when televising our games
but I guess finally after the KY game he was able to get them motivated wow great coaching there
oh and Nebraska LOL boy that was a good team
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
1:23 pm
Is Grantham producing on par with other DCs making similar money? Probably not yet. He has some kinks in his scheme to work out. Is it worth getting rid of someone of this level of quality over it? Also probably not. Don’t forget that every time you make a change, you run the risk of moving backwards. You’re more likely to end up with someone closer to Kevin Ramsey than you are Erk Russell.
Let’s also not forget that our underperforming D-Line was coached by the now departed Rodney Garner. Someone that Grantham inherited from before his time.
Also, bringing up his time in Cleveland is irrelevant at this point. People learn and grow in their jobs as time goes on. Surely if you were interviewing for a higher position, you’d want to be evaluated on your recent experience and skill sets than on what you knew 8 years ago.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
1:33 pm
“you’d want to be evaluated on your recent experience and skill sets than on what you knew 8 years ago”
I agree but looking at what he has done against top 20 opponents isnt what I would want to see on a resume
But again you people miss the point this guy is hoping to catch the next train out of Athens 2 yrs in a row
So please explain to me why keeping a guy that has shown 2 years in a row that is courting other opportunities that he should be kept on, I cant wait to hear this explaination
Its in the programs best interest for the future to say bye bye and find another DC that wants to be here for a longer future than just 2yrs and off to the NFL
ty
February 7th, 2013
1:38 pm
One of the biggest unconsidered factor with Ga recruiting is the lack of true competition at the running back and quarterback positions. For instance, I am a five star running back signed at ga. saw the situation at uga where instead of embracing Marshall and Gurley as Marshall and Gurley fans went with this “Gurshell” thing. I see that and realize GA is still living in the past. Noting that no one else got to play rb this year except those two and the passing game seems to be more important than the running game. I decide to look a Alabama. Alabama divided its running opportunities up with several backs. Georgia eventually went with only one rb as they do with their QB’s, so noting that Alabama seems to use their backs early and they leave early for the nfl. Why not change and go to Alabama. So another four star back we did not notice until late also went to Alabama. Well as a recruit that does not seem to be good for my future so I go to Alabama. I am sure Ga will not use Douglas and Turman much this year when basically they should….Someone said they combination would keep the rb fresh. Well keeping all those wr’s happy and the TE’s happy there is not enough footballs to go around especially when we score real quickly an then put the pressure on this very young defense that GA will have next year. Bobo and Richt and whoever is the DC will have to really consider their philosophy to even come close to the success GA had in 12. Not sure the staff is open minded enough to consider competition as they supposedly did several years ago.
Joey
February 7th, 2013
1:41 pm
Looking at Willie’s last season, he allowed 337 points in 12 games vs Grantham’s last – 276 points in 14 games
And that is not allowing for all of Aaron Murray’s pick-6s and ST scores.
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
1:48 pm
Well, since you can’t wait, I won’t keep you in suspense. The reason is because it’s always going to be that way because it’s human nature and the nature of the profession. The vast majority of college coordinators are interested in either working in the NFL or becoming college head coaches at some point. When you have success, you get those opportunities and if you’re not getting those opportunities, then that’s a pretty clear indication that you’re not cutting it. Van Gorder had a successful tenure at Georgia and he left to because he wanted to coach in the NFL and be a head coach. Mark Richt left Florida State because he wanted to be a head coach. Someday, Mike Bobo will leave because he wants to be a head coach. It’s simply career advancement and it’s not at all unnatural. Your idea that you should somehow beat him to the punch and dump him before he can dump you is short sighted and unrealistic.
JRW7
February 7th, 2013
1:48 pm
I have never agreed with GTBOB, but he is right on in his 1:22 post.
Dark Day?
February 7th, 2013
1:53 pm
GT IS HEADED for some “dark days” having signed ONLY 14 kids. TECH is in big trouble.
Go Dogs.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
1:57 pm
wow those are stunning numbers for a guy who mid way through his last season knew he was going to be fired and could have cared less how his defense played.
and yet did Martinez have the talent Gratham has had the last two seasons; I dont think so and yet Gratham still gives up 30 points a game against every top 20 team except for a FL team whose offense was one of the worst in the country
oh and lets not forget 2 seasons worth of the easiest schedules UGA has played in eons
So again please explain to me why keeping a guy that has shown 2 years in a row that he is courting other opportunities that he should be kept on,
Minnesota Dawg
February 7th, 2013
2:05 pm
We sure do have a lot of potential coaches on this blog. They seem to know which players will be good! Some act as if our coaches at Georgia don’t have any sense. I trust Mark Richt. I’d rather have him than any other coach. Go DAWGS!
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
2:10 pm
When you have success, you get those opportunities and if you’re not getting those opportunities, then that’s a pretty clear indication that you’re not cutting it.
Again what success has Grantham shown other than successfully giving up 30+ pts against top 20 opponents
Again I dont fault the guy for career aspirations but in his 2nd year he demands a pay raise; third year yet again he is looking to move on
I understand coaching is a revolving door but Asst have to earn their promotions as did Richt who spent over a decade at FSU and others who spend 4 to 5 + years of successful coordinating
Once again please explain to me why keeping a guy that has shown 2 years in a row that he is courting other opportunities that he should be kept on when your program is only going to be hurt
Joey
February 7th, 2013
2:31 pm
Flat Tire, in ‘09, we played 4 ranked teams – last season it was 5. I think the schedule is kinda relative – UT is down – Vandy is ranked. Ole Miss is better than Miss St. SC is much better than then.
Anyway, the D last season had better numbers, but the issue with the suspended players, then the UT and SC games had last season’s D reeling, I think, until S Williams called the D out – which I still believe was done with TG’s blessing. After the UK game, the Dawgs D was equal to Bama’s D.
I haven’t commented on TG’s interview, but while I hope he doesn’t go, I can’t see anybody blaming him if he takes a big pay raise, with a longer contract. He is a family man, and I know from experience, when you get that first kid, priorities change – it’s all about making as much as you can, to pass on to that kid, to give them a better life or better start than you had yourself.
I hope he stays – with this offense, if he can’t get the D to play better than average, we will beat a bunch of good teams.
Oh, and isn’t the NFL “courting TG” instead of the other way around?
Va Dawg
February 7th, 2013
2:46 pm
I was told that Tunsil’s girlfriend got a FULL RIDE to Ole Miss last weekend WHILE he was there!
Lets check on that one!
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
2:49 pm
Joey
You said anybody blaming him if he takes a big pay raise, with a longer contract
Have you seen lately the turnaround on coordinators in the NFL; its very short
As long as Richt wins 9-10 games a year which is really not that hard with the talent UGA gets Grantham is fine;
I promise you Gratham will have a much longer term as D-Coordinator than he will ever have in the NFL cause the UGA fanbase excepts mediocrity and is happy with 9-10 wins so long as we beat that joke program 60 miles to the west that hasnt done anything much in 60 years
oh and that longer term will earn him more money in the long run
wake up Gratham doesnt want to be here so why are we wasting our time with someone who is going to be used by other schools as a recruiting ploy by telling them “he isnt going to be there” against us and who has shown he cant stop top 20 teams
Joey
February 7th, 2013
3:02 pm
Grantham stopped 3 outta 5 Top 20 teams this past season, Flat Tire.
UGA lost only to the BCS Champ and the #7 team on the road. And one of those games came down to the last second.
You really should check out Grantham’s past a little closer – I’m sure you knew TG worked for Saban at MSU. Oh and you do realize that King Nick offered the Bama DC job, got turned down, then gave it to Kirby in ‘08, right?
I thank the football gods regularly that we got Grantham, other than Bud Foster and John Chavis, who we pursued.
Those guys had good seasons, huh?
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
3:09 pm
Flat Tire, you’re directing your anger at the wrong person. If you have an issue with Grantham being your DC, then by all means, let Richt or McGarity know. I think the circumstances lend themselves to giving Grantham more time to fine tune his defense but I don’t have any problems with people disagreeing with that assessment.
What I disagree with however is the assertion that people shouldn’t be allowed to seek out the best opportunity they can find, assuming they’re not being deceitful or defrauding their current employers. As such, your issue that you want to get rid of Grantham because he’s looking at other jobs is a non-starter. Coordinators will always be looking at other jobs because that’s how they view personal job success. You can bet that if Mike Bobo was drawing interest to be the next head coach at Texas instead of just Southern Miss, he’d be gone before Reggie Ball could count to four.
McDawg
February 7th, 2013
3:17 pm
Tunsil & Kamara were the whiffs-never seemed that Adams was ever on board
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
3:18 pm
3 out of 5 he stopped
oh wow Vandy he stopped LOL who were the other 3 that he didnt give up 30 points to other than a terrible FL offense
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
3:23 pm
GeoffDawg
Again you miss the point; the guy has shown nothing and here we are again as a program wondering if he is going to be our D-coordinator next year
Try that at your job and lets see how long your employed
As for Bobo sure he would be gone and I wouldnt blame him but how many years has he been here
Joey
February 7th, 2013
3:28 pm
It must be a burden, having to tote that negativity everywhere.
Name me ONE DC you would trade Grantham for today.
And cut out the “wake-up” crap.
You know I’m not a (your words) koolaid drinker. We can agree to disagree . . .
McDawg
February 7th, 2013
3:36 pm
Monte Kiffin
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
3:37 pm
Wow
here we go with the name one coach out there garbage
I heard that when Martinez was here too
our fanbase has become laughable
oh well you got me I forgot there are no coaches out there except Richt Bobo and Grantham
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
3:40 pm
Flat Tire, I get your point. I just don’t agree with it. Your opinion is that Grantham isn’t qualified to be in his current position. That’s not what I think but I don’t have a problem with you taking that stance. The sticking point here is your assertion that a contributing factor to his disqualification is that he looks at other jobs and leverages those jobs for more money / job stability. If Grantham were reporting to you, obviously that wouldn’t work for him. However, the powers that be are more accomodating because they place a higher value on his services than you do.
If I was looking at other jobs than one of the factors I’d have to consider would be how highly thought of I am by my current employer which is precisely what Grantham’s agent is leveraging. Are you familiar with the law of diminishing returns? Essentially, at the point that Grantham’s costs outweigh his benefits, based on Richt/McGarity’s opinion, he’ll no longer be at Georgia. If they don’t like his job shopping to the tune that it overshadows his successes on the field, I’m sure they’ll follow your advice. Until that time however, they’ll tolerate it. That’s the same scenario you’ll find at any job.
'94 UGA Alumnus
February 7th, 2013
3:43 pm
I hope you enjoy the BBVA Compass bowl Tunsil and Nkemdiche because that’s where you are headed (if you’re lucky that is), I could understand going to Alabama or Florida but Ole Miss. REALLY?????
Joey
February 7th, 2013
3:46 pm
Name one jackass – we may be looking for a DC a week from now – I know you know a better one . . .
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
3:51 pm
Geoff Dawg
LOL
Again go try what he is pulling at any employer and see what happens
Ever heard of the term Job hopper
Grantham and his agent and everyone outside of the UGA fanbase knows how our program works why do you think he is doing this; at UGA mediocrity is tolerated getting fired rarely happens
Again I dont have a problem with Granthams career aspirations just dont hurt the program that has made you one of the highest paid coordinators which he continues to do and will do ASAP when he gets the opportunity
And we wonder why we cant win the big games at this program
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
3:52 pm
Thats right we might be looking for one next week so why are you defending his antics
Joey
February 7th, 2013
3:54 pm
And I never heard that when Willie was here.
And the only thing “laughable” about our fanbase, is the fans who pitch a fit over a Top 10 recruiting class of 30 4-Star and 3-Star recruits.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
3:57 pm
where did I pitch a fit about a top 10 recruiting class
Joey
February 7th, 2013
3:57 pm
Antics?
Answering an interview request for a higher-paying, longer-term-contract, job?
Buddy, congrats for never having done that in your life.
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
3:59 pm
Yes, I’m familiar with the term. Look at somebody’s resume who’s been in the workforce for 20 years. You’ll likely see five or six different employers. Organizations are flattening and lateral moves are considered necessary for career growth. The era of the gold watch retirements is long gone. Welcome to corporate America.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
4:04 pm
Nah Ive done that thank you but I earned the better opportunity by getting results
Joey
February 7th, 2013
4:05 pm
I said “fans” and I know you’ve read them on here.
I don’t know your opinion on the class.
Back to Grantham. All I am saying is compare the other Top-20 teams’ DC’s performance the past 2 seasons and pick a better DC. And I mean, be sure and count the scores from pick-6s, fumbles, and Special Teams.
Bill King
February 7th, 2013
4:06 pm
I just want to make one thing clear on Grantham: I don’t begrudge him the opportunity to advance his career in whatever way he sees fit. Frankly, I think he’d be happier back in the NFL, where he doesn’t have to deal with recruiting teenagers. I just don’t think this coy, legalistic stance he took yesterday best served his interests or UGA’s. I would have appreciated a more forthright approach. “Yes, this is a possibility I’m considering” or “No, I don’t plan on going anywhere” or even “I don’t plan on leaving but you never say never.” Instead we got a shoft-shoe routine about contractual obligations.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
4:08 pm
Um yea Im very familiar with corporate America but not leveraging your current employer every year for other opportunities
That gets you fired
but
Hey since your job approves of leveraging them after a big pay raise every year can I send my resume to them I like the idea
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
4:09 pm
Bill King
Thank You
I totally agree
Joey
February 7th, 2013
4:09 pm
Flat Tire, if you can’t see that Grantham’s attacking-style defense, while using players recruited mostly by Willie’s passive 4-3 D, and with very little depth, hasn’t made a difference in UGA’s standing in the college football world, you are blind as a bat.
James K. Polk
February 7th, 2013
4:10 pm
Mediocrity=UGA…and our fans LOVE it for some reason. THAT is why we are losing recruits. It’s not because of Grantham leaving, or because of Richt’s hip, or because Saban is cheating. We lose recruits because they go visit Bama, Florida, Auburn, and LSU and see crystal throphies, then come here on a visit and see our Outback Bowl trophy and notice that our alumns and fans are thrilled about it. THAT’S why,
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
4:12 pm
Obviously not Flat Tire. You never took economics, did you?
Joey
February 7th, 2013
4:15 pm
Bill, have you considered the possibility that the Saints (or any other NFL team) was
aware of the timing of NSD, and didn’t contact him until afterward?
Instead of “a routine,” maybe it was the uncomfortable truth?
We will know shortly – and if he stays, we will know Mark Richt is fine with what occured.
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
4:16 pm
Bill, when you say “I don’t plan on leaving but you never say never.”, I interpret that to be equivalent to Grantham’s statement that he “expects to be here next year” in lieu of saying that he “will be here next year”. That seems pretty forthright to me. He could be fully aware of potential interest but if he doesn’t think he’s one of the top candidates, he could fully expect to be in Athens next year.
Joey
February 7th, 2013
4:18 pm
“Um yea Im very familiar with corporate America but not leveraging your current employer every year for other opportunities”
****************************************
What did Grantham “leverage” last season?
UGA OFFERED the raise and extension.
Why?
His defense was the #5 Defense in the USA.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
4:23 pm
#5 against who no one
look at what he did against the ranked teams
Joey
February 7th, 2013
4:28 pm
It’s not “leveraging.”
It’s called accepting what the market will pay.
I would send Grantham an email congratulations for a 50% raise.
And thank him for beating 22 “no ones” the last 2 seasons.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
4:34 pm
LOL
I love how we are now using economics
But you know I like how economics is taught at programs like FL and AL
I wonder what they call their brand of economics I bet it has nothing to do with Mediocrity
Guess thats why theyve hoisted 7 crystal balls among them the last 20 yrs and UGA hasnt even sniffed the championship game
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
4:57 pm
I love how you love everything Flat Tire. Yes, economics are relevant for determining the worth of an employee against costs incurred. It’s called operating in reality. What you don’t realize is that you don’t have an issue with the way employees are managed, you have an issue with your perceived failings with the staff assessments conducted by the administration.
Joey
February 7th, 2013
5:05 pm
Ok, UF was the recepient of a “perfect storm” – a Spread Offense genius, and the most perfect Spread QB ever (though Cam might argue). When Timmy left, so did Urban’s genius.
Bama, on the other hand, has the best coach, who has learned how to use the rules to build a perfect football program. He has the largest staff, compliments of “analysts,” and other “support staff,” as well as the largest Athletic Dept (156?) in the country by triple.
As long as Saban is there, nobody will get the best of Bama regularly, and even after he is gone (see LSU) even a doofus (Les) can continue what he created.
We will beat Saban sometime, here and there, but UGA is not Bama – and will never be.
Joey
February 7th, 2013
5:10 pm
GeoffDawg Flat Tire is a DGD, and I tend to agree on a number of things, but not today.
He is looking for perfection in a profession that has only one perfect (or near perfect) occupant.
It may well drive him mad, unless he realizes it . . .
Bill King
February 7th, 2013
5:19 pm
Joey:
Grantham’s meeting with the Saints had been reported in New Orleans in advance of signing day and before Grantham notified Greg McGarity.
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
5:28 pm
I never intended for this discussion to be adversarial. For whatever reason, he’s just coming across as a bit of a D-Bag today.
GeoffDawg
February 7th, 2013
5:41 pm
Bill, there’s definitely room to be cynical with the way the timing of this whole thing played out but unless Grantham has a history of dishonesty that I’m not aware of, I’m not sure why we wouldn’t give him the benefit of the doubt. Certainly, it’s within the realm of possibility that he was aware of potential interest, either directly or through an intermediary but if he hadn’t received a formal invitation to interview, then anything he would have to say on the subject up to that point would be just speculation. Without hard evidence to the contrary, he could very well have fully expected to stay in Athens (and still could) while in the process of communicating with recruits and through NSD.
Joey
February 7th, 2013
6:11 pm
I know that Bill (5:19), but that report still came from, “a source.” Not the Saints office, nor Grantham.
If Grantham violated protocol, McGarity won’t let this slide, or will be rendered a paper tiger.
I am obviously hoping for a different scenario – Grantham went by the book, and turned the offer down.
I don’t like the thought of starting over with a new DC.
Bill, also, sorry for the 5:07. “SMART” just brings out the worst in me . . .
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
7:06 pm
Joey
UGA is not Bama because of the fanbases
Bama’s fanbase demands championships
UGA’s fans demand 9 to 10 win seasons
Thats the difference; The state of Georgia is a much better state economically and consistantly has better recruits
If UGA fans start demanding champions then we will keep these great in-state players
Take our womens gymnastics team you win championships you get more of the best wanting to come play for you
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
7:11 pm
and as for Grantham; Im glad he has career aspirations but dont drag the program along with it
These continued antics by Grantham gives other teams recruiting defensive players against UGA a much easier way to recruit them from coming to UGA now
AltamahaDawg
February 7th, 2013
7:34 pm
I snotted sweet tea out my nose at 7:06. My God that was funny.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 7th, 2013
7:48 pm
I know thats far fetched thinking for you Altamahaha Dawg but thats just the facts
As my two co-workers who are Bama fans tell me we cant help We go out and buy ourselves a coach and UGA doesnt; we cant help we demand championships and UGA loves mediocrity
Ed
February 7th, 2013
8:31 pm
First of all, good for Ole Miss. They say every dog has its day, and that dog hasn’t had its day since the 1970s.
As for UGA, this class is huge, good, and will make up the solid backbone of the team from 2015-2016. Wish we signed a few more o-lineman, but we are pretty much set on the line right now. Next year will be the year to stock up at those positions.
As for Grantham – let’s face it, college coaches are mercenaries available to the highest bidder. The schools (or NFL programs) that hire them aren’t loyal to them, so why should they be loyal? It’s business, not personal.
graphite
February 7th, 2013
8:33 pm
My my,how the puppy nation is crying.Now,Fla. is poised to spank that fanny,S.C. will keep beating you so,make reservations now for Shreveport!! RollOn….
nobody
February 7th, 2013
8:55 pm
the only difference between him and the kids he recruits is his chronological age…otherwise their egos and maturity levels are exactly alike….the old “me first” attititude….
Bo Burgess
February 7th, 2013
9:07 pm
I want the kid that has all his life wanted to be a Georgia Bulldog. I want it in his blood. I want him left panting on the practice field just hoping for the chance to go in for a play. I want him to “live” for having the chance to play with “champions”. If there is the least bit of “should I sign here or there”, then son, you go play over there. All these boys want to be Bulldogs, and they are willing to bust their ass, and yours, to be one.
hind tit
February 7th, 2013
10:05 pm
If Grantham leaves he leaves to get out of the headache of recruiting and who could blame him when you double the salary and not have to put up with kids playing one school against the other the last month before signing day. Yeah coach it’s looking good for y’all while telling four more schools the same thing. Who was the high star recruit yesterday that said it was a business decision. What purpose does it serve going unannounced to a school during the dead period when you can’t talk to a coach in person that you have visited multiple times. As dishonest as the world is today you will never make me believe some of these kids are not going to the highest bidder. And while coaches was the topic Saban said in Miami he wasn’t going anywhere. The very next day he was announced as Bama coach. It’s dog eat dog for coaches and kids.
RED DOG 77
February 8th, 2013
12:35 am
Bill, you nailed this one……………I’m becoming a believer or you are getting better at your craft?………..We did well, filled alot of holes, have the depth to last through next year, but we better as hell sign a boat load of O and D linemen next year……………..As much as I credit Todd Grantham with turning the program around, he has been quite the jerk of late…………mabe it is time to send a little invite to Charlie Strong……………But in the final analisys……….Georgia is still Georgia……….Ain’t it great to be a BULLDOG…..?…………oH HELL YEA……………GO DAWGS……………..RED
legionaire
February 8th, 2013
6:16 am
Recruiting should be done on a need basis and not stars. Maybe a new coordinator will not be saddled with having to also be a position coach and Asst Head Coach as Garner was. As for Grantham, I think he came here as a career resume enhancement. He inherited a defensive disaster from Martinez and had to start from scratch. He will do what is best for himself.
reality check
February 8th, 2013
7:57 am
If past is prolog many of the recruits rated 5 star will be busts. It hasn’t been just Georgia that has experienced that over the years.
There will also be many 2 and 3 star recruits who will become All Americans and first round draft picks.
Todd Grantham has been disingenuous, but in some ways he has been playing that game the only way he could. He is a good coach, but even if he returns next year he won’t be at Georgia long. If I were making $825,000 and a quality organization offered me $1,500,000 I would be gone too. And anybody else with any sense would be too.
bigdaddyj
February 8th, 2013
8:24 am
Grantham’s D has been average. OK against mediocre teams and not so good against any decent offense – See Tennessee, see Alabama, etc. Way over hyped for his production. Frankly, now that Garner is gone we can change our tactics and actually call back recruits and actualy go after some in state talent
Dawg89
February 8th, 2013
8:24 am
I agree with several posters that CTG can hit the road. And, it’s not because I think he has done a bad job or whatever else. This constant talk of him leaving for the NFL is tiring. Make no mistake that other schools use it against us. If he wants to be a DC again in the NFL, he should leave right now so we don’t have this BS to go through again next year. You can’t blame him for wanting the money. I blame him for being an obnoxious tease.
Dawg89
February 8th, 2013
8:29 am
Will Friend was a BS hire. He had no real experience. Take a look at the salaries for the offensive assistants and compare it to the defense. I think Friends salary reflects what UGA thinks of him. I bet the OL coach at Bama makes a whole lot more. If Friend can’t recruit GA talent to play at the state Univeristy, he needs to hit the road, too. Seems to me he hasn’t done such a great job anyway. Due to a lack of depth, which can be blamed on poor recruiting, and his mediocre coaching, our line is for crap compared to other SEC schools. Look how they got schooled by SC.
Eli Manning
February 8th, 2013
8:32 am
I got to get with Dad and figure out all those payment plans! I never imagined any of those scholars would choose the University of OLE MISS.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 8th, 2013
8:40 am
I dont blame Grantham for wanting to go to the NFL and possibly make double his current salary
Though he will make more money in the long run at UGA cause he will have a lifetime contract at UGA due to Richt winning 9-10 ballgames every year and thats all the fanbase here cares for.
The issue is he is doing this once again right after he got a raise and extension; this just tells me he doesnt want to be at Georgia period and will leave at a moments notice so why are we allowing him to put the program in a bad set of circumstances
As a program we need to move on an find another up and coming d-coordinator
My-Guy
February 8th, 2013
9:03 am
If we want to win a national championship next year, we can’t takes things lightly, I don’t care how good your offense is, you can’t win football games without decent D. Look at our SCHEDULE next year, we can’t be sleeping this off season, we have to have a defense to win football games, a lot of people critize Rodney Garner, but that’s why it hurts so badly that he left UGA. We needed Adams, too bad he’s going to 1 of our 3 most hated teams in college football (Auburn), our defense is REBUILDING next year, and it could only get worse if Grantham leaves. I don’t know what our coaching staff is thinking here but, it is what it is. I believe we have a great 2013 recruiting class though! GO DAWGS!
Homeslice
February 8th, 2013
10:32 am
I remember when i played football and would have done anything for the chance to play for UGA. Now the Georgia boys are just followers, running out of state instead of staying home and building a championship team where they came from. If you don’t want to be a Georgia boy then hit the road bro.
There is nothing no one can say to persuade me to believe that if you really want to be a Dawg you will be a dawg. The recruiting nowadays has turned into a soap opera,following these kids around doing interviews that is the problem. Can’t sign unless espn is there or the local tv station. Remember how some of the old dawgs did it? no cameras, no fan fare, just that feeling that they wanted to be a dawg and they made the call to the coach.
WDE
February 8th, 2013
10:50 am
Great article Bill we will be in year 2 before we get a true read on this class but I have to say I’m excited. We have 13 players that we thought were good enough to offer early and they were committed enough to work to enroll early. That gives us a great chance to get a number of them on the field and not just running around in circles this season. Think about a couple of years ago and we only got 17 total…Go Dogs !
Goober Pyle
February 8th, 2013
11:00 am
A friend (not Will) said that Bobo told him earlier this week that UGA was in trouble with the big recruits (not NCAA trouble, just couldn’t get the players). Why?
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 8th, 2013
11:09 am
Cause we have been branded cant win the big game thats why
And with Granthams antics this made it soooo much easier to recruit against us
Cant win the big games
Grantham is leaving
Not hard to sway recruits that way
Smarty us
February 8th, 2013
11:14 am
Grantham may or may not be all he’ cracked up to be. Probably the latter. His talent laden defense laid an egg at the vey critical moments here it counted (ie entire second half against Alabama). He definitely didnt earn his $800K this past year.
The worst, though, is that his public flirting with multiple NFLteams is unforgivable. It hurt our recruiting efforts and indicates that we really cannot depend on him. He does not seem to be a loyal Dawg but instead a mercenary.
So I say do not renew his contract and spend what it takes to sign the best PROVEN DC in the country, not some assistant somewhere or a friend of the coach.
Then we may really be able to win some chAmpionships.
David Pollack, come home. We need you”
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 8th, 2013
11:17 am
Has Grantham shown up for the SC game yet
Just wondering
Snoop Dawg
February 8th, 2013
11:34 am
Funny how all the zombies are rationalizing how Richtl laid an egg on signing day. Can’t they hear that giant sucking sound?. All the best players chose to sign with Richt’s rivals rather than sign up for four years of Marjoe’s evangelical revival sermons and watch Budda on the sidelines sap the team’s energy during tough games.
Although it is truth that some HS players actually perform better than the number of recruiting stars may have indicated, the fact is that statistically speaking a recruit with 5 stars will perform better than 4 who will perform better than 3 etc.
So instead of spinning the bad news, a true Dawg’s energies are much better spent trying to figure out how to fix the problem and sign Georgia’s best talent.
My assessment tells me that we need to replace to replace Richt and his entire staff, replacing them with a more group of experienced, professional coaches…
Nimrod Dawg
February 8th, 2013
12:12 pm
Amazing! Once again we got the Number 1 class! Unbelievable! How do we keep doing it year after year? Ain’t it great to be a Dawg!
Dawg89
February 8th, 2013
12:27 pm
I agree the jury is still out on CTG. I will be surprised if he gets the job in NO. I would sure like to hear what he tells Sean Payton as to why his D didn’t show up against SC or the second half against Bama. There is no doubt other schools use the “Grantham Package” against us. Clearly, he is only here until a better offer comes up. But, we all knew that when he was hired. If Olivadotti is so good, then promote him. I gotta tell you that if I could double my salary at a different job doing essentially the same thing, I would be gone in a minute. Folks can talk all day about Georgia pride and all that, but there isn’t a man or woman alive who wouldn’t jump at the opportunity to double your pay.
wins-by-a-link
February 8th, 2013
1:42 pm
Why worry about Grantham being signed away by someone else, He has not had great success as DC at UGA, Lets face the facts he has been unable to stop the run since he arrived at GA.
Dirty Dawg
February 8th, 2013
1:52 pm
OK, here goes…I’m not black, and I damn sure ain’t got a prejudiced bone in my body, but I do have questions. What self-respecting parents of color, with a son or daughter athlete, not have severe miss-givings about allowing them to attend a state school that still plays Dixie and waves the Confederate flag at games?…Why is it that, seemingly only the black kids make such a big deal of the recruiting process, holding out til the last while taking every visit possible, then doing their ‘thing’ on national TV?…The last time an SEC school, seemingly out of nowhere, ‘ran the table’ with such an array of high–profile recruits, Trooper Taylor was scurrying around the Southeast with a big bag of money that, ultimately, resulted in a National Championship for one school and a huge cloud surrounding their program. Wonder if they have any regrets? Doubt it, but as I said, just asking.
Dirty Dawg
February 8th, 2013
2:29 pm
…and one more thing…does the name Kiffin remind you of anything? Namely to raise the question of ‘is there anything that ‘they’ have done in this part of the country – or any other part for that matter – that, ultimately, doesn’t turn to s$&t?’. The ‘younger’ Kiffin, who’s doin their thing at Ole Miss these days, has just been named ‘recruiter of the year’ or something like that. Mark my words, something’s up with this and more will come out…probably from the other in-state school.
JB
February 8th, 2013
2:58 pm
#1. Very happy that Garner is gone. I understand the players WE HAVE/HAD loved him once they got there, It’s obvious Dawgs were being ” outworked” the last few years on the recruiting trail. Dawgs haven’t done bad, But much room for improvement. #2. To much being made of the Grantham thing. Florida under Muschamp have lost Cord. Coach’s. A lot of teams have. If he moves on, he moves. Richt and the University ought to be enough for any interested player.
RED DOG 77
February 8th, 2013
7:11 pm
Dirty Dawg………..Your last few posts nailed it friend, especially regarding “Dixie” and the “Pot of Gold”……………Somthing just doesn’t pass the smell test when you look at the Tunsil kid…………….Mississippi?…………really?……….or is it The University of “Ol Miss”……………Regards, RED
gomdawg
February 9th, 2013
6:10 am
I HAVE SAID PLAYER FOR PLAYER I WOULD TAKE OUR CLASS OVER OLE MISS ANY DAY .
4 AND 3 STAR PLAYERS ARE PLAYERS NOT SHOW BOATS ON TV.
GO DAWGS AND WITH CTG HE IS HUMAN ,IF FOR SOME CRAZY REASON ANOTHER PAPER AFFORTED YOU A JOB DOUBLING YOUR MONEY YOU WOULD TALK TO THEM.CTG IS AT GEORGIA AND HE HAS DONE HIS JOB SO WITH THAT SAID FINE YOU SOMETHING ELSE TO WRITE ABOUT
bubba4dawgs
February 9th, 2013
9:19 am
Bill, I agree with you regarding Grantham! I really fear that he will hurt UGA in the future should this situation happen again and I believe his name will no doubt pop with an NFL offer again if not perhaps a head coaching job somewhere. His letting a recruit know in advance of UGA or Coach Richt was definitely disingeneous of him. I think the other coaches in the SEC will use it again which will hurt UGA.
Who knows what Rodney Gardner was thinking in his recruiting Adams and others. The fact that he was late in recruiting several players may be that he was planning to move to Auburn if the opportunity arose and he would load his bag of recruits to take with him. No loyalty among some coaches either. The whole recruiting program is in disarray at UGA. Coach Richt and McGarity need to look at this.
The 2013 season will be interesting! It will be a tougher schedule! Having SC and LSU at home may help! Hopefully, some of these new pups can grow up fast to help make a difference! GO DAWGS!!
Jborodawg
February 9th, 2013
10:35 am
Yes, disappointing that we lost out on some 5 stars; but still a solid class that addresses needs. I’m not ready to throw CMR under the bus quite yet because of the Garner and Grantham things that close to NSD. Some people are way too obsessed over recruiting rankings. Heck, scout.com has Ohio St #1 last I saw. Quite a bit down the list by most others.
Bulldawg35
February 9th, 2013
11:01 am
We missed out on a lot of talent because Grantham wanted to mess around with the saints and eagles.I wish he would pack his bags I’m sick of this. If we lose to the chickens again I think Richt and ctg should pack their bags….here is a list of the teams I hate the most
1. Chickens
2.florida
3. Tennessee
4. Auburn
5.bama……anybody have the same list that I do. I hate sc more than fla only because I’m a dawg fan living in sc….can y’all imagine the crap I’ve been through the last three years? Come on guys lets beat the crap out of sc….please for the love of god…..I’m siccccckkkkk
7576DAWG
February 9th, 2013
1:10 pm
All I can say is I hope neither Marshall or Gurley go down with an injury. The other two we signed will not be ready to play any before the 6 TH game at best and both should probably be red shirted. McClendon should have done a better job getting one of the Alabama Commits to realize that Alabama has 11 starter at running back now and that the numbers just don’t add up for ANY playing time for about half of those starters. Georgia has two starters and maybe 5 more who are unproven. It would not have been much of an effort for Kamara or Henry to go into practice as the number three running back without even being on the field for the first time.
Old miss
February 9th, 2013
1:22 pm
Why in the world would these kids want to leave GA for old miss is beyond me? Old miss will never win a NC or even the SEC championship or the west due to Bama, LSU and Tex A&M. NCAA needs to do a sniff test in Oxford to see how many of these guys are driving new cars with rolls of cash hanging out of their pockets.
7576DAWG
February 9th, 2013
1:28 pm
Grantham has done a great job turning our program into one who is competing for a Championship every year. 2009 and 2010 were disasters. We won 10 games in 2011 and should have won at least 12. Our field goal kicker lost two of the games and then makes the Pro bowl his first year in the Pro’s. In 2012 we won 12 game and finish 5Th in the polls which should have been 3RD . Ohio State shouldn’t count. They didn’t play a conference Championship game or a bowl game. And Notre Dame ending ahead of Georgia in the polls are a joke. Grantham was a huge part in Georgia become relevant in the SEC again. One day he will leave for a better job but until that day comes I think Georgia is better off with him than without him. I can’t believe any criticism . Blame Garner for poor line coaching and very poor recruiting the last 4 years.
Bulldawg35
February 9th, 2013
3:15 pm
Yeah right, Grantham hasn’t stopped the run since he has been here. Last season was the worst of the three in total defense…..he can’t stop the chickens either
Bulldawg35
February 9th, 2013
3:48 pm
We missed out on lawson….tunsil and kamara…….we just can’t recruit. Ever since the dream team we have took a step back. I prayed for a whole damn week that Grantham would leave. I would rather have chavis….Derek mason…..Ellis Johnson…..Kirby smart…..Greg Williams….the Texas a&m dc…….bud foster…….the Michigan state dc…….Texas Christian dc. The Boise state dc……. And many more…..so by now you all should realise that Grantham should of left. Grantham=joe kines
Bulldawg35
February 9th, 2013
4:04 pm
Richt smiling after losing out on several recruits…….is damn right absurd. He really doesn’t care about winning the mnc. The only thing he cares about is trying to make these men out to be the best humans they can be. I don’t think he really cares about beating spurrier or saban….two guys who starting to own him
Mtn.Dawg
February 9th, 2013
5:38 pm
Work in Highlands N.C. a very high end, second home community. Was telling a costumer of the news about Garner the morning it broke. He is a very wealthy Ga. Alum and was not aware of Garner leaving. He made a call to the school and confirmed the news. he said no one was crying ,and no attempt was made to keep him. I guess the rumors I had been hearing for some time, and what some of the recruits have said were true? Maybe we can recruit better moving forward. Happy with the class . when you get basically two classes of mostly top 40 recruits in one year its big, and very difficult to do, particularly with all the early enrollees. Tunsil is the only one I am disappointed in not getting. Saw Kamara play a couple of times, runs hard but not very allusive. If he doesn’t get bigger he’ll be busted up in no time, ala Crowell. Adams looks average against elite competition. Griffin must have some kind of issues for Ga. Not to offer. Will be surprised if Foster makes it at Bama. Grantham needs to quit fooling around and start earning his 850k in a big hurry.
Bulldawg35
February 9th, 2013
7:14 pm
Grantham will be gone next season…..he will finally get a Nfl job….why any team would want him is a mystery to me….he has done nothing great here he really has been average at Uga.
RED DOG 77
February 9th, 2013
8:35 pm
Bulldawg35………..IMO Grantham put a little “fire in the belly” of a Georgia program that needed some badly, did a great job of installing the 3-4 D, but failed to implement a strong run d……..that said, I think his time should end at Georgia. I wonder what Charlie Strong is doing these days? Coach Richt is a great coach, but needs a “firebrand” on the Dside………..and there is a boat load of firebrands out there…………….Time for Grantham to go………..Let’s find a college coach who teaches D who wants to be at Georgia…………..and stay with the 3-4……………….Regards, RED
Mtn.Dawg
February 9th, 2013
9:24 pm
Everyone seems to think that you have to have 4 and 5 star recruits to win. If they are really good they play for 2 years and act like their hurt the third, then skip to the NFL. There is more than one way to skin a cat. If you have good coaching and develop players you can take 2 and 3 star players that don’t skip to the NFL, and after 4 or 5 years of experience whoop a bunch of 2 year, 5 star players all day long. I am not saying they shouldn’t be part of the mix. When I played ball we had a few great players but not many good players. We were 500 almost every year.
Owen Scott, III
February 9th, 2013
10:54 pm
Living in the real world, I’m not judging Grantham for seeking to advance his career.
Bulldawg35
February 10th, 2013
9:38 am
Red dog77….. Charlie strong is the head coach of Louisville. I agree time to send Grantham packing
Bulldawg35
February 10th, 2013
9:45 am
Mtn dog…..I would rather take my chances with 5 and 4 star players. 2 and 3 star players are for tech…..the university of Uga has the money and facilities……the tradition to bring in as many 5 stars as we want. But I think will friend is just a poor recruiter. Richt is just not aggressive enough. So in 2014 our poor recruiting will begin to show
tell me again
February 10th, 2013
12:12 pm
I see Reuben Foster’s dad was just arrestd after being on the run for 16 years – and we wanted that drama in Athens why? Glad the Bammers have that 3 ring circle on their campius along with the liquified elk antler suppliers.
tell me again
February 10th, 2013
12:18 pm
It is hard to believe that some of our fans think that ESPN knows more about recruiting and our team needs than our coaches do. Do you believe everything you see on TV? Or that everything on the Internet is true? We’re never going to get them all folks and there are a lot of good programs out there that have their own goodies to lure athletes with. I mean, who can pass up free elk antler supplements?
Mtn.Dawg
February 10th, 2013
3:56 pm
Bulldag35…I have to disagree with you on Tech. Looks more like 1 star players this year. Almost out of the top 100…yikes!
Bulldawg35
February 10th, 2013
5:32 pm
Lol……I agree with that. Tech will be lucky to win 5 games next year!……
LABULLDAWG
February 10th, 2013
9:23 pm
we’ll be fine! UGA FILLED NEEDS! THESE GUYS WILL FILL DEPTH ISSUES! WE HAVE A SENIOR QB! ‘BAMA, HER WE COME! GO DAWGS!
AltamahaDawg
February 11th, 2013
9:56 am
I suspect God has a little more on his plate, than your desire to see a football coach move to another job.
AltamahaDawg
February 11th, 2013
11:30 am
We’ll be more than fine. This might end up being the most inportant class, UGA has signed in the near and past few years. The pity is that folks have to come in here and defend it. Against some of the comments that are completely diven by hype. (and agenda in some cases).
Much of which does not line up with reality.IE. Georgia gave out 129 offers this past recruiting cycle. Of those, TWO players from Georgia, holding offered from Georgia, ended up signing with Alabama. But to read some comments, you would have thought that they came over here with moving trucks and emptied out our locker rooms.
flatsdawg1
February 11th, 2013
11:32 am
I think this will be a surprisingly productive class, more speed than usual on and at least a couple of playmakers there.Love JJ Green, Tramel Terry, Trey Mathews, the DB’s we got are a very good bunch. A big bunch of four stars that will play as freshman, very good potential. Dawgs will be alright. We will be back to see you BAMA!
Bulldawg35
February 11th, 2013
12:01 pm
@atl dawg……hey god may of not answered my prayers then but maybe he will down the road. This class should of been much better. We still lack depth on the d-line. We still need a couple of great o lineman. I cannot get excited about this class when ole miss and auburn out recruited us.
Skokie Dog
February 11th, 2013
12:17 pm
It appears that U.Ga.’s incoming class of recruits, including those already enrolled, will shore up areas of need on defense, mainly linebackers and the secondary, and among the receiving corps on offense. The lack of recruits for the offensive and defensive lines, however, is a persistent problem that this coaching staff seems content to ignore. This is an unfortunate pattern in recruiting at U.Ga.
It’s a successful recruiting class if we consider quantity, but remember that the number of scholarship players had declined, creating the need for a large class this year. The lack of five-star recruits will show up on the field at some point in the next four years. My hope is that the three- and four-star recruits will play well as a team, assuming that they get the opportunity to play.
NCDawg
February 11th, 2013
3:22 pm
I think everyone is beintg a bit harsh on Grantham. He could not cut himself out… jeez he was being interviewed by a team that if their defense is even decent could be in the Super Bowl. The timing was really bad and no I don’t think he lied to recruits. He is contractually obligated to inform UGA if he is offered an interview not if he is being contacted about the possibility. He has a clause in his contract that allows him to take an NFL job with no buyout so he has all but declared loud and clear that he wants the opportunity if it arises. You can’t blame the guy. The NFL is still the apex of the profession. I think the Saint’s timing sucked pretty badly but that is what happens when NSD is a week after the Super Bowl..
The class isn’t what it could have been but maybe we will get the benefit of a couple of under the radar guys that always seem to crop up on somebody else’s team. 5 stars isn’t a lock that they will be coachable and have a good work ethic so it’s a crap shoot any way. I just really wonder what Ole Miss did to put the whammy on Tunsil? Could it be as simple as the right girl? or is it something else? Maybe someday the truth will come out.
NCDawg
February 11th, 2013
3:40 pm
Ty – Kamara would have gotten more time on the field at UGA than he will at Bama. Bama basically used 2 backs most of the time. The competition angle is crap. Murray played more this past year than he normally would have to protect Mason’s redshirt and because Lemay and Parker did nothing to warrant more playing time. Same thing with Malcomb. He did not make the most out of his opportunities. Jeez… which is it people? Is it running back by committee or ride the stud? You complained about not using Gurley more early in the year and now we don’t g8ive enough guys a chance? Talking about schizomoid! And we seem to be able to run the ball well enough to have a guy who was at the top of the conference so you can’t complain about not being committed to the run either. The NFL is a PASSING league now… you can’t just line up and run the ball down people’s throats just because you WANT to… you have to have balance. Bama is a run first team but Bama WILL NOT be able to do that next year. They will have to rebuild the O line after losing several NFL caliber linemen… they will try and will be forced to throw more to be able to run. Sure they have the talent there but they still have to gain experience and gel. Perhaps midway through the year, barring injuries, they can start to bulldoze a bit more.
Bulldawg35
February 11th, 2013
4:23 pm
@ ncdawg…….haha….Grantham sucks as our dc!!!! We were 80 th in the nation at stopping the run last year….that’s just absurd. What good offense has he stopped since he has been here??? We haven’t had a great d-line since 2003. We only have Mayes ..Taylor…Atkins and bailey ….Thornton….ray drew and garrison smith. That’s not enough depth and only won of them are proven and that’s garrison. We will struggle again next year….this time I think we will finish 95 against the run
Bulldawg35
February 11th, 2013
4:33 pm
Bama is the king of college football and when saban retires he will have won more championships at Alabama than bear Bryant. Bama will three peat next year with Tj Yeldon and Derek Henry paving the way
AltamahaDawg
February 11th, 2013
5:46 pm
Well let’s see 35. when you “prayed for a whole damn week”………….was it for God to have things work out for the best..in which case you may very well see that down the road…………OR was it “please give ME what I want”.in which case I suggest you find a new strategy for following sports. .
Bulldawg35
February 11th, 2013
6:29 pm
Well you know bro my prayer will be answered when Grantham leaves after next season…..nice try but no cigar. Richt will soon get tired of these stunts every season and force him to leave. Atl dawg…..go have another beer and worship Grantham some more…..even though he just like joe kines
RED DOG 77
February 11th, 2013
11:24 pm
Boys, Boys………….knock-it-off……………You’re both right………….When Mark Richt hired Todd Grantham “our” DOGS were reeling……….we couldn’t stop anyone. In Grantham’s defense I saw him instill an agressive attack style attitude to our DOGS………….We had been lacking agressive play for way too long. With Grantham our D improved, but has lveled off and seems to have peaked……..I thank him for bringing back the “fire” which is still there……..I am one who belives his time at Georgia has run it’s course…………coach O, Lakatos and others young coaches with fire are out there, and can do the job…………..We just don’t need the drama of Grantham and the NFL every year………..Regards, RED
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
8:22 am
Go worship Grantham some more? really? What are you, 12?
and Red, knock off what? I never said a word about Grantham. good or bad.
Bulldawg35
February 12th, 2013
9:32 am
What does my age have to do with you worshiping Grantham?? 2014…..we will finish 8-5 because of our poor recruiting
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
9:53 am
The other way around. That comment has to do your your age. As in , you sound like a child when you say things like that. Is that clear enough?
And while are on it, What does anything I have EVER said, remotelyhave anythign to do with “worshiping Grantham”?
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
10:08 am
What 5 games will we lose in 2014?
I am assuming that you have some working knowledge of our opponents that you can definitively point out 5 teams that are certain of scoring 35 plus points on our defense BUT will not give up 40 to our offence.
We’ll all be looking forward to your analysis.
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
10:39 am
Building on my theme from yesterday………facts that don’t line up with the perception.
UGA has signed 15 OL in the past 4 years.
1) 5 star
2) 4 star
11) 3 star
1) 2 star long snapper
Alabama has signed 13 OL
1) 5 star
3) 4 star
9) 3 star
and if you look year to year, the numbers, total and the star count, are nearly identical ( including this past year that some folks are down about)
Stiffneck
February 12th, 2013
10:50 am
4 Bama players arrested – http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/12/four-tide-players-arrested-three-on-robbery-charges/related/
whiskey breath
February 12th, 2013
10:51 am
So let me get this straight Bill, Richt get’s credit for the success of the class, and everybody else get’s credit for the ones that go away.
At least you are consistent. At Bama, we give credit to Saban for the ones that got away and the ones that stay, Kirby get’s credit. Would it be so horrible if Bro Richt ever took responsibility for the negative things? The biggest whopper was the managing of the clock at the SEC game. His ego wouldn’t let him admit he should have stopped the damn clock. Then blamed in on Homer Smith, who just happens to be dead.
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
10:55 am
Well, Callaway is gone then. I’d say the other guys are in serious danger of running some steps this summer.
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
10:57 am
gee whiskey…..did you think the 9th time you used that Homer Smith line in here, it would be a lot funnier?
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
11:12 am
In other news……….. several season passes are now availible at the will call window, formerly used by the Tuscaloosa County Sherriffs’ Department.
Stiffneck
February 12th, 2013
11:19 am
“In addition to the Sunday gun charge, Williams faces the second-degree robbery and fraudulent use of a credit card charges.”
If this kid can add a DUI charge ASAP, He’ll be NFL ready and his stock will skyrocket.
Stiffneck
February 12th, 2013
11:31 am
In a bold move, Saban has just announced these four players will be suspended for the national anthem for all 8 games against FCS competition in 2013.
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
11:40 am
They better be saying they are real sorry, or they will find themselves on the bench for the first half, in front of the 147,953 Alabama fans in attendance of that spring A-Day game.
Bulldawg35
February 12th, 2013
12:22 pm
I wonder if Chris Wilson is a good recruiter. I have my doubts about him….I think Rodney garner is going to own him in recruiting. Garner did a terrible job for us the last two years…it seems like going to auburn he found his mojo once again…….maybe Richt should ask homer smith how to recruit as well
Bulldawg35
February 12th, 2013
12:24 pm
Nothing childish about u worshiping Grantham….instead it’s down right disturbing. Lol
Bulldawg35
February 12th, 2013
12:39 pm
@ atl dawg…..our defense averages giving up close to 40 now against good offenses….our worst loss in history had to be the 83 sugar bowl against penn state. Second had to be at the hands of the poultry 35-7!……..maybe Richt should ask homer smith how to beat spurrier.
WDE
February 12th, 2013
12:47 pm
Bulldawg35 what troll name were you using last year…your sort of familiar but I can;t quite put my finger on it…yet?
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
1:16 pm
Sooo………the 83 sugar bowl. That’s your analysis of which 5 teams are going to outscore us next year. Fascinating.
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
1:43 pm
Needless to say WDE, this is the only remaining blog he can still comment on.
Bulldawg35
February 12th, 2013
2:04 pm
I’m not a troll….just a realist when it comes to Uga football. If u want to call me a trol, then so be it. Whatever floats your boat in your miserible lives. Well asking homer smith if u should spike the ball back in 01 was a terrible mistake. Richt just can’t make a decision when it comes to time time management. His worst weakness is managing the game. Cost us a shot at the mnc. We missed out on kamara…..what happens if gurley gets hurt….we will sink faster than a pig in the saluda river. Atl dawg u are about as Disney as they come…..so I just consider the source
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
3:19 pm
Considering that it takes me about 2 seconds to refute your petty juvenile comments, you would do well to consider the source.
Krystal Buger Cop
February 12th, 2013
3:20 pm
Bama has a HUGE lead in the Fulmer Cup standings so far this year! Roll Tide!!
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
3:34 pm
Clearly Saban’s player have no respect for him.
Bulldawg35
February 12th, 2013
3:49 pm
Saban is the best coach in the nation….you really think losing these 4 players are going to stop them from winning the mnc..lol……hey atl dawg why don’t go spoon feed saban some more. He is your king. You think my post are that bad huh…….we’ll I have to vomit right after I read your post because you are so delusional you should be trialed and convicted….it’s just inhuman to be that Disney old man.lol
AltamahaDawg
February 12th, 2013
4:20 pm
Losing 4 players? who is?
Bulldawg35
February 12th, 2013
5:26 pm
Trust me saban will suspend these guys…….saban is the greatest college football coach in NCAA history. I would trade Richt in a heartbeat for him. They are absolutely loaded with tail backs. I just can’t believe how they reload every year. I think they will finish 14-0 next season…..and beat Texas a&m for the mnc
fan
February 12th, 2013
8:31 pm
Garner really didn’t want to be at Georgia to begin with. His recruiting showed it because he got lazy. You have to stay after these players and go after them early…you can’t wait around to the last minute and think they’ll jump on board unless your Alabama with a pocket full of cash. I think whoever gets this kid out of Gainesville will probably have another Johnny football…he is the real deal. Who ever is recruiting him had better latch on tight, because everybody is going to go after him.
bubba4dawgs
February 13th, 2013
9:33 am
I will sy it now, the kid from Gainesville goes to Alabama! I wouldn’t be surprised if Nick Sabin has already moved in his house and breathes the same air he does. Sabin usually get what Sabin wants! Why? Because Sabin works harder at getting players than any other coach and Sabin wins! UGA needs a total overhaul in recruiting!
Shame that Gardner didn’t work as hard while at UGA as he is now working for Aw-burn!
I see that Spurrier has 4 coaches assigned to the state of Georgia for recruiting. He recognizes that the state is a hotbed for talent. He just picked up 12 in this class.
Dog4Life
February 13th, 2013
9:52 am
Do not understand Garner–must still be angry from being passed over for DC. CTG and his 3-4 is not and never will be geared to stop a good running game until we have ILBers that are at least 245 to 255; taking on the likes of Barret Jones is difficult — weight and strength disparity. I think, however, you will see a much improved O-Line this year. Go Dawgs!!!
Tndawg
February 13th, 2013
12:57 pm
I am frankly surprised no one met with Grantham and told him that if he pursued this interview process during the recruit signing period he would be fired. Can you ever see Smart telling Saban about two days before the signing period that he will be going on an interview for a job? Saban would tell him that if he did so, he would need to turn in his resignation.