Dawgs’ 2013 recruiting class: Solid, but no superstars … yet (UPDATED)

Despite some disappointments, Mark Richt was all smiles Wednesday. (Associated Press)

Despite some disappointments, Mark Richt was all smiles Wednesday. (Associated Press)

When the King boys were young, there were two kinds of Christmas mornings.

There were what we called “bicycle” years, when the bounty delivered by Santa was dominated by a shiny new bicycle or some other major gift. And there were other years when there weren’t one or two spectacular gifts but instead we got a whole lot of things we wanted … and even a few we needed.

The years with a new bicycle might have been more exciting, but we never really thought we had a bad Christmas Day.

College football’s national signing day is a lot like that for the Georgia Bulldogs.

Some years the program is rewarded with a burst of national excitement generated by a highly ranked recruiting class topped off by couple of five-star players donning a UGA cap on national television.

And then there are years like this one, in which Mark Richt signed his largest class ever and filled just about all his program’s needs — what my Mom would have called “a very nice haul” — but didn’t get any five-star players and signed only two of the top 10 in-state recruits.

It wasn’t a “bicycle” year, in other words.

Yes, it was tough for Bulldogs fans to watch “SportsCenter” interrupted to show signing announcements by a string of top players, three from the state of Georgia — and none of whom signed with UGA.

Of course, running back Alvin Kamara going with Alabama was expected, and it wasn’t particularly surprising that defensive lineman Montravious Adams followed the man who recruited him for UGA, former defensive line coach and recruiting coordinator Rodney Garner, to Auburn. But the loss of much-needed offensive lineman Laremy Tunsil, long considered a lock for the Dawgs, to the sudden, mysterious recruiting mojo of “the University of Ole Miss” (as Robert Nkemdiche called it) was particularly hurtful.

And most of the top talent in Georgia leaving the state — in what’s considered one of the most bountiful years of high school players in quite a while, perhaps the best ever — is disturbing.

Looking at the bigger picture, while the loss of Garner at the height of recruiting season no doubt discombobulated UGA’s efforts a bit this year, the puzzling lateness with which the Dogs have approached some top in-state prospects in recent years, last year’s drastic undersigning (with only 17 players), and the continued lack of emphasis on signing offensive linemen — only four out of 32 players??!! — can be laid at least in part at his feet (along with the relative underperformance of a highly regarded defensive line this past season). So Garner leaving might prove to be a case of one step back this year and two steps forward in the future, with coaches who are more active and on top of things on the local recruiting scene taking his place.

The recruitment of Tunsil also was the latest example of UGA going with the high-risk you’re-our-guy strategy of making one top recruit their entire focus at a position — putting all their eggs in one basket. It worked with Isaiah Crowell at tailback two years ago (though it didn’t pay off in the end when he got kicked out of school and the Dawgs were left sorely lacking in depth), but was an abject failure with Tunsil this year. Watching UGA’s coaches scramble to try to come up with a Plan B when it became obvious Tunsil was going elsewhere was embarrassing.

Still, Richt and company signed a solid, deep class that especially addressed needs at linebacker and in the secondary, even if it was lacking in some of that signing-day which-cap-will-he-pick-up-off-the-table drama that ESPN promotes — and which has skewed media (and fan) perception of the class as a whole. It might not be close to the No. 1 class in the country as Richt defiantly hailed it Wednesday (the various rankings average out to No. 11), but, as Georgia’s head coach noted, “We took care of business in the areas that we needed. We got the guys that are very, very talented and are excited about being here.”

And once they actually start playing games, some of these players could well end up outshining those given five stars by the recruiting services.

Besides, those overall class rankings can be deceptive. Two words: Dream. Team.

Yes, perhaps the case can be made that the attention lavished on signing day’s late deciders is warranted because they tend to be among the best players who are recruited the hardest. Still, the horse-race style coverage tends to overlook some top-quality players who commit early and don’t waver.

Todd Grantham refused to end speculation about his future at UGA. (Associated Press)

Todd Grantham refused to end speculation about his future at UGA. (Associated Press)

Finally, what to make of this whole Todd Grantham soap opera?

While perhaps before signing day Georgia’s defensive coordinator might have seen the speculation about a possible NFL job as somehow enhancing his standing in the eyes of prospective recruits, it’s been reported that rival coaches used it against the Dawgs.

If he stays, you wonder why he endangered the signing of Davin Bellamy, Georgia’s main signing day triumph, by equivocating rather than coming right out and putting an end to the rumors. And if he’s truly leaving, then you have to figure he was at the very least disingenuous with some of Georgia’s signees, if he didn’t outright mislead them.

Frankly, Grantham’s continued dancing around the issue and refusal to say yes or no on signing day makes him look like a bit of a jerk.

UPDATE: I’m off for a couple of days but I stilll have one eye on Athens and was pleased to see that Grantham is staying at UGA … for the time being. That doesn’t mean, however, that I’ve changed my mind about the awkward, unnecessarily distracting way he handled this latest flirtation with the NFL. I’m just hoping the lingering uncertainty over Grantham’s future plans doesn’t come back to bite the Dawgs in recruiting defensive players for next year.

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194 comments Add your comment

SBC Pastor

February 7th, 2013
10:12 am

dentaldawg83

February 7th, 2013
10:17 am

Coach Grantham has already done damage to his tenure in Athens. He better produce a better defense (especially against the run) than he has in recent years or he might just be shown the door.

SBC Pastor

February 7th, 2013
10:17 am

Frankly, I think recruiting ratings need to be taken with a grain of salt. As you point out, Isaiah Crowell was considered to be a 5 star recruit, and yet we got better after he was kicked off of the team.

I think we are better off with a large number of solid recruits than a smaller number of “the next Hershel Walker.”

Bridesmaid of the SEC

February 7th, 2013
10:25 am

Once again the dawgs come up short. Mr McGarity!, we were not even “In the Hunt” on some of the big time blue chippers down the stretch. Kool Aid drinkers are in in full force trying to sugar coat this poor showing as the national media is harping on why UGA cant land instate big time talent. Damage control run amok!

fishook dawg

February 7th, 2013
10:31 am

Avery Young last year, Laremy Tunsil this year. Can Will Friend recruit or what? The only reason we got Theius is because we signed his brother the year before. Maybe if an offensive line guy doesn’t have an older brother we can sign, maybe we just look away.

Spider29

February 7th, 2013
10:32 am

This is a good, solid class. The only player that I really regret that the Bulldogs didn’t get is Tunsil. Also, I think many people are overlooking the fact that some future stars are already enrolled at UGA. We didn’t have to wait on “pins and needles” for them to sign yesterday.

UGA Insider

February 7th, 2013
10:34 am

Dissapointing for sure but who cares.

GeoffDawg

February 7th, 2013
10:38 am

That’s a bit harsh on Grantham. Of course it would have been to Georgia’s ultimate benefit for him to specifically clarify his role and plans as soon as possible but at the end of the day, his first responsibility is to what makes the most sense for his family and by extension, his coaching career. I’m sure with the position he’s in, it’s quite a juggling act to try to satisfy all interested parties and unless he outright lied to recruits or Coach Richt / Greg McGarity, I don’t have any issues with how it’s been handled thus far. Until he makes a move, his interest and desires for growing his job prospects are his business. I certainly wouldn’t want to stunt my opportunities to grow in salary, responsibility, and prestige simply because it would be temporarily inconvenient for my current employer.

Flo- Ri - Duh

February 7th, 2013
10:44 am

Garner appeared to be inept in recruiting in state talent in recent years. Time for him to move on. Even though Montravius Adams blamed Garner leaving UGA for his reason not to sign with UGA the fact is that UGA was 3rd on his list and if Garner had stayed at UGA then Adams would ha e gone to Clemson. So Garner leaving didn’t keep Adams from signing with UGA. All along Adams said he favored the 4-3 defense and didn’t like the 3-4. I am not sold on the 3-4 either as LSU, Bummer, etc have found a flaw in it in the run game. Just double team the NT, the DE and the OLB on whichever side you are going to and don’t block the other side at all. Grantham should go to the 4-3 on 1st and 2nd down to stop the run. UGA will not have a monster NT in 2013 any way. Adams is around 290 lbs and not big enough for a 3-4. Neither is Toby Johnson, Mayes, Adkins or Taylor.

BOB

February 7th, 2013
10:47 am

Again, the short term fix is to add 10,000 seats to Sanford stadium and build a state of the art indoor practice facility. Recruits look at the quaility and condition of the facilities,see for example Alabama’s $ 9 million weight room. Longer term, maybe Georgia’s AD may keep an eye on Charley Strong.

hws

February 7th, 2013
10:51 am

Bridesmaid needs to get a clue. UGA will be just fine. None of the top flight recruits were going to sign with UGA from the get go because of ties with the schools that they signed with. Thelone exceptioeing Tunsil????????????? Hmmmmmm…..
Perhaps going forward we will do a better job up front with these type of situations now that Garner is gone. From everything I have read he was a day late and a dollar short (no pun intended) with many top recruits.
In the end you are dealing with young men who often times are easily swayed. The best recruits to get are those with potential that have the desire to be a Bulldog and the fire to put in the work to get the job done. Mission accomplished. Would have been ice to have signed a couple of the guys yesterday but life goes on. Let’s write theirnames down and see where they are in 4 years,

swimdawg68

February 7th, 2013
10:51 am

I agree on Will Friend, wonder why we miss on top OL prospects. I was not sad when Garner left. I felt we have not done as well in recruiting as we should. Only signing 2 of the top 10 players in OUR STATE is just awful, something needs to be fixed. Hopefully this coach that replaced Garner will do a much better job. Quite frankly, I think Garner just got lazy. Glad he is now at Auburn

Bill King

February 7th, 2013
10:55 am

Bob:

I don’t believe it was facilities that drew Tunsil, et al to Ole Miss.

Flo- Ri - Duh

February 7th, 2013
11:04 am

Tunsil was PLAYED by Nkemdiche. Four 5 stars signed with Ole Miss. Nkemdiche ’cause his brother goes there and his mama is the boss in the family. Mama Nkemdiche dissed UGA because her oldest son was offered a scholarship “late” by UGA. The fact is the kid was NOT qualified academically to go to UGA until late in the process. Hugh Freeze did not sign Mama’s oldest boy – Houston Nutt did. Later Nutt got fired and Freeze inherited an opportunity to get the so called #1 in the country. Time will tell on that. One of the other 5 stars signed is FROM Mississippi and one is from up north where there is no top in state football school. Nkemdiche is stuck at Ole Miss so he recruited the other 5 stars to help him out – it wasn’t Hugh Freeze. Mama Nkemdiche got her revenge on UGA for not accepting his commit early by getting Nkemdiche to talk the naive Tunsil in to signing with Ole Miss. When Tunsil went to Ole Miss for his “official visit” Freeze and Nkemdiche made sure all 3 other 5 stars were there to persuade Tunsil to go to Ole Miss. When Tunsil was on TV making his commit he laughed saying “now I have to learn how to block for the spread offense”. Why would an OL with the NFL in his future want to be on a team that runs the spread which is not used in the NFL. Tunsil was PLAYED. Nkemdiche and Freeze made sure that after Tunsil visited for his official that no other school would be able to talk to TUNSIL until after signing day. So Mama Nkemdiche got here revenge on UGA. Just business.

Since Vince

February 7th, 2013
11:05 am

I do think Bob could be on to something though. Falcilites that are upgraded can help in recruiting and also for gameday experience. Think UGA now needs to really upgrade around and underneath the Sanford Bridge which is very unique for college football stadiums. We need more fans to really get more involved during the dawg walk and inside the stadium. Reed Alley is very nice upgrade. Like to see more done around the bridge and bookstore.

oakisland

February 7th, 2013
11:09 am

Is Todd Grantham interviewing for the Saints job? I just heard this. If so, I think he should go even if he isn’t hired by the Saints. Lying to recruits is not acceptable. I’m a 69 grad and I love my dawgs but just not right.

Joey

February 7th, 2013
11:12 am

Well put,, GeoffDawg. I’ll add that if I were Grantham, the AJC would be the LAST place on earth I would give info to. At least 2 stories speculating about his leaving in the last couple days before NSD. Both without confirmation of an offer from ANYBODY. I’d probably say more than “no comment.”

Speaking of NSD, I guess you know you’ve arrived when you get maligned for bringing in a recruiting class rated 9th (Scout) and 10th (ESPN). No fewer than thirty 4-Star and 3-Star players in our class.

I wish we coulda got a couple of those big names, but what could our staff do short of kidnapping, to get them to sign?

By the way, ESPN reported that Ol Miss did this in the Tunsil case (you gotta laugh at the last sentence):

“But sources familiar with Tunsil’s recruitment did confirm to ESPN.com that the Rebels have offered a scholarship to his younger brother, Alex Weber, a lightly regarded junior receiver at Columbia High in Lake City, Fla. The Rebels offering Weber a scholarship isn’t a violation of NCAA rules. He wasn’t included among a list of 232 wide receiver prospects in Florida for the 2014 recruiting cycle.”

Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.

February 7th, 2013
11:12 am

GeoffDawg

While I can agree with what you are saying about Grantham to some point about his career I trully believe he should be shown the door.

The guy held up the program limbo with his so called possible going to the NFL last year so according to him and his agent UGA should give him a raise to keep him which they did

Now here we are again and the program is being held up in limbo and he keeps dodging the question and recruits most likely made a decision based on him possibly not being here

The guy hasnt shown he is a good defensive coordinator since he has been here and yet he acts as if he has done something great

he needs to go

Flo- Ri - Duh

February 7th, 2013
11:13 am

Ole Miss isn’t on the rise. They were 7/6 last year and have been irrelevant for the last 40 years or so. Losing Tunsil hurt the most. I watched Adams in the state champ game and he was ineffective. Appears over rated to me. Kamara would have been good for depth but the fact is that Marshall and Gurley would have gotten 90% of the carries the next two years any way. TOP PRIORITY in the 2014 class is OL and DL………. #1 priority will be in state talent at OL – namely “ATLAS”.

chilidawg

February 7th, 2013
11:15 am

A nice, deep class. I think Kublanow and Kimbrough may have the biggest impact in this class.

JRW7

February 7th, 2013
11:16 am

CTG wants to go to NFL, let him go, we don’t need this crap at recruiting time every year! Let him leave NOW! This hurt UGA recruiting big time! GO TODD, leave us now!

Supes

February 7th, 2013
11:19 am

Tunsil’s decision was the biggest blow to the class…I agree with Bill King on this one, UGA has got to do a better job of getting multiple top rated players (at a position of need) rather than put all “the eggs in one basket” b/c it doesn’t workout most of the time.

I don’t wish the kid ill will for going to Ole Miss…but I do think he’s going to regret it down the road…who knows…maybe he’ll be content winning 8 or 9 games a year and finishing 3rd in the SEC West?

I guess UGA needs to adopt a new recruiting strategy…start offering to the “lesser brother” no matter what to lock up the “star one” when his day is due.

Dawg For Life

February 7th, 2013
11:21 am

Yes damage control is in full effect. They would have not recruited the guys they lost if they did not want them. So don’t try and sell us on that you got what you wanted. Ohio State and Aubrun got more top 10 players out of Georgia then we did. Someone needs to stand up and take responsibility and find a solution for our lack of closing the deals with these recruits. If its not the facilities then what is the issue that top players are deciding to attend other schools. I am a realist and don’t expect a National Championship every year but it has been 30+ years. What are we missing? I don’t want our new moto to be “just 4 yards short”. I just want us to take it to the next level, I am not satisfied with just being in the top 10 all the time.

GeoffDawg

February 7th, 2013
11:22 am

Flat Tire, that may or may not be true but his value as a DC is up to Coach Richt and McGarity to determine. I was only responding to the assertion that Grantham made himself out to be “a jerk” over the last couple of weeks. While we may not like his agent playing hardball to leverage salary increase, etc, I believe that it’s still a routine and accepted part of the coaching profession and doesn’t rise to the level of being unethical by any stretch. My barometer would be that if you’re comfortable employing these tactics for the betterment of your own career, then it would be disingenuous to hold Grantham to a higher standard. Unfortunately, the business of coaching is often difficult to reconcile with the passion of coaching.

Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.

February 7th, 2013
11:25 am

Ole miss will be lucky if they finish 3rd in the West they have always been a joke program

Why would anyone want to go to program that is below the level of GT in a Conference with so many other great programs that has way better stadiums and facilities

SimpleDawg

February 7th, 2013
11:25 am

All of these ‘Potential” 5-Stars that signed amid fanfare and adulation bring no guarantees with them to their respective schools. We’ve signed some very highly touted, highly recruited players in the past 2 – 3 years that really haven’t panned out…..yet, and may never reach their “potential”.

Proper evaluation is the key. Just because everybody wants player X due to perception, based on who all is chasing him, doesn’t make him anything more than what he wants to become. Bama (Saban) seems to be very good at this, but even they miss on some.

The 2013 class Georgia signed has as much opportunity to produce star players as anyone else….it’s all within the person.

‘What’s most important in life is not what lies behind you, nor what lies before you, but what lies within you.’ A poor paraphrase of Ralph Waldo Emmerson, but you get the point.

Let’s see where we end up in 2 years.

On another note: How ’bout Nkemdiche’s “University of Ole Miss”….? Doesn’t that bring back memories of Danny Ford and “Clemson Tiger University”….? What a hoot!

Simply stupendous…..

Ghostaloco

February 7th, 2013
11:25 am

I think we have a great class…good kids that wanna be in Athens. Like Dooley said on ESPN…UGA had two top 10 recruiting classes rolled into one. 32 guys that wanna be there better than 25 questionable kids. That’s just my opinion though. GO DAWGS!

GeoffDawg

February 7th, 2013
11:29 am

Also, I recognize that the timing of these coaching rumors was far from ideal but that’s not controlled by Grantham. Anybody with an eye to career advancement has to answer the door when opportunity knocks.

Joey

February 7th, 2013
11:31 am

Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.

February 7th, 2013
11:34 am

GeoffDawg

Again I can agree with that but concerning the UGA program or for any business, if an employee continues these types of things right after he was given a raise and yet he did nothing to show once again that he even deserved the raise in the first place; why is the Richt and Mcgarity allowing this to go on.

This hurts the program and the guy should be fired and shown the door; Grantham is showing he could care less about the program and its future

Why would anyone continue to employ a person who is showing that part of his time is being spent on finding another place of employment when he is only been here a short amount of time and that place has already bent to his demands just recently

gafanintn

February 7th, 2013
11:39 am

I think Grantham’s integrity has put a black-eye on the University. He needs to go b/c this will only hurt them next year as well on the recruiting trail.

gafanintn

February 7th, 2013
11:39 am

I think Grantham’s integrity has put a black-eye on the University. He needs to go b/c this will only hurt them next year as well on the recruiting trail.

Dawg_Mike

February 7th, 2013
11:46 am

As I recall Todd Gurley wasn a 5 star and did not get a lot of hype but I believe he led the SEC in rushing.
Jarvis Jones didnt get a lot of hype either, not did David Pollack.

Give me a team with a bunch of hungry 2 and 3 star guys anytime. They will also gell together and stay 4 years.

Grantham- your timing is poor just like your 3-4 drfense. time to go.

GeoffDawg

February 7th, 2013
11:50 am

Flat Tire, that’s a question for Richt or McGarity to answer. Their responsibility is to weigh the contributions of Grantham to the program against his cost which could be construed as meaning his salary, his off-field distractions, and his potential for leaving the staff without penalty. Really, it’s just an evaluation of his value which fans may not always agree with. Personally, I think he’s got a few wrinkles to iron out (namely rush defense against top tier O-lines) but he also has shown a propensity for developing talent, successful risk based play calling, and for bringing a fiery tone to the defense that was for years lacking under Willie Martinez. I think he’s worth it and apparently so do other programs, NLF or otherwise, looking to fill staffing roles.

EgginDawg

February 7th, 2013
11:54 am

Bill- Before we call Grantham a jerk lets wait a bit and determine if there was contact by the Saints prior to Wednesday night. If there were, then I believe it is up to CMR/ Grantham/ UGA to be forthcoming with that information to recruits. IF it is determined there was no contact prior then I think Grantham has done nothing wrong.
Debating the fitness of CTG as D coordinator is another matter. It is obvious that rival coaches negative recruited UGA. I understand individual circumstances determine where folks go. I’ve never been a Rodney Garner fan due to his lazy recruiting phylosophy so while we lost out this year we can make some MAJOR strides in the future if we learn from his mistakes.

GeoffDawg

February 7th, 2013
11:57 am

If you take any employer – employee relationship, it’s not unusual for a business to put up with a lot more crap from one of its top producers than it would from somebody just punching the clock. I will grant you that Coach Richt hasn’t always shown the decisiveness necessary to unload poor fits (ala Willie Martinez again) but based on his record thus far, I doubt McGarity would tolerate a whole lot of mediocrity within the staff.

Fred in Dunwoody

February 7th, 2013
12:00 pm

TG needs to go and take the 3-4 with him. What about Manny Diaz? (TX DC)

John McEachern

February 7th, 2013
12:02 pm

your calling Grantham a jerk is out of bounds! there is no way to correctly manage a process like ths. Richt and McGarity have it under control.It is also flattering to a prospect to have this happen. Is Kelly at Notre Dame a bigger jerk for interviewing with the Eagles? Even money, He stays at Georgia!

beanster

February 7th, 2013
12:02 pm

Is there a PR person for the Athletic Association? Or was that another responsibility of Rodney Garner’s?

Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.

February 7th, 2013
12:24 pm

Geofdawg

Richt was forced to unload Martinez; Richt would have never let him go had it not been for the fanbase

Also Grantham is not a top producer; please go and look at how he performs against top 20 teams its not worth what we are paying his salary I can tell you that

Joey

February 7th, 2013
12:35 pm

“(Grantham) not worth what we are paying his salary I can tell you that”
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Boy, that NFL coach thinking of paying TG a lot more than “we” are paying him, must be a real idiot.

You should let him know that, Flat Tire.

dawggirl

February 7th, 2013
12:43 pm

From Rivals:

“This is the peak of situational losing. Georgia is sitting just outside of the top 10 in national recruiting, it yet is being considered among the losers on signing day. The program signed 32 prospects and averaged 3.47 stars per player, but it could not fend off many raiders inside of its own borders. In a year in which the state produced four five-star players — five if you count Reuben Foster because he transferred out of state as a senior — the Bulldogs landed none. They protected only two of the top 15 players within the state. Carl Lawson reaffirmed his commitment to Auburn, Montravius Adams joined him, Vonn Bell went to Ohio State and Laremy Tunsil — an offensive lineman from Florida whom the staff felt great about — chose Ole Miss. While the class is solid, and if other schools had this list it could represent a major victory, it is a tale of what could have been.”

I don’t know what to think or how I feel. One minute, I feel good about the overall depth and addressing our needs, then I read the above along wtih a teaser about how we are the rising program that is listed first under Losers of Signing Day. Frustrating.

Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.

February 7th, 2013
12:47 pm

joey

he must be cause I seem to remember Grantham was D coordinator for Cleveland then ended up as a D-line coach for Dallas; if he was that good he wouldnt have gone back in his career

and again what has he done so far at UGA other than being embarrassed by every top 20 team he has faced except 1 and that one had a joke offense all year

Joey

February 7th, 2013
1:12 pm

Call Coach Payton and tell the Super Bowl champion coach what a doofus he is.

Seriously, if you don’t think our D is eons better than it was from ‘06-’09, we are watching different games.

Ask Penkle, Muschamp, Franklin, Freeze, Chizik, PJ, even Saban and Pelini if Grantham can coach a D.

Saban had better players and much more depth, and Grantham shut Bama down in the first half, and made two big stops near the end of the game. He shut down Nebraska in the 2nd half. I’ll admit, we looked bad vs UT, and SC, but after the UK game, our D was as good as anybody’s.

Buddy, if you are looking for near-perfection, there’s only one team to follow – whoever Saban is coaching.

BOB

February 7th, 2013
1:13 pm

@ Bill: Based on what is being rumored/reporting here and in other media, you may be correct regarding Tunsil;however, going forward , consideration has to be given to any and every competitive advantage to attract the best athletes to Athens. Facilities as well as coaching are two of the most obvious plot points in my view.

GTBob

February 7th, 2013
1:22 pm

Richt is going to need better players then this to hide his lack of coaching ability. Dark days may be ahead dog fans.

Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.

February 7th, 2013
1:22 pm

eons better?

how is that when he gives up as many points as Martinez did

and Saban had better players on Defense ok I guess thats why ESPN kept showing all the 1st and 2nd rounders on our Defense when televising our games

but I guess finally after the KY game he was able to get them motivated wow great coaching there

oh and Nebraska LOL boy that was a good team

GeoffDawg

February 7th, 2013
1:23 pm

Is Grantham producing on par with other DCs making similar money? Probably not yet. He has some kinks in his scheme to work out. Is it worth getting rid of someone of this level of quality over it? Also probably not. Don’t forget that every time you make a change, you run the risk of moving backwards. You’re more likely to end up with someone closer to Kevin Ramsey than you are Erk Russell.

Let’s also not forget that our underperforming D-Line was coached by the now departed Rodney Garner. Someone that Grantham inherited from before his time.

Also, bringing up his time in Cleveland is irrelevant at this point. People learn and grow in their jobs as time goes on. Surely if you were interviewing for a higher position, you’d want to be evaluated on your recent experience and skill sets than on what you knew 8 years ago.

Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.

February 7th, 2013
1:33 pm

“you’d want to be evaluated on your recent experience and skill sets than on what you knew 8 years ago”

I agree but looking at what he has done against top 20 opponents isnt what I would want to see on a resume

But again you people miss the point this guy is hoping to catch the next train out of Athens 2 yrs in a row

So please explain to me why keeping a guy that has shown 2 years in a row that is courting other opportunities that he should be kept on, I cant wait to hear this explaination

Its in the programs best interest for the future to say bye bye and find another DC that wants to be here for a longer future than just 2yrs and off to the NFL

ty

February 7th, 2013
1:38 pm

One of the biggest unconsidered factor with Ga recruiting is the lack of true competition at the running back and quarterback positions. For instance, I am a five star running back signed at ga. saw the situation at uga where instead of embracing Marshall and Gurley as Marshall and Gurley fans went with this “Gurshell” thing. I see that and realize GA is still living in the past. Noting that no one else got to play rb this year except those two and the passing game seems to be more important than the running game. I decide to look a Alabama. Alabama divided its running opportunities up with several backs. Georgia eventually went with only one rb as they do with their QB’s, so noting that Alabama seems to use their backs early and they leave early for the nfl. Why not change and go to Alabama. So another four star back we did not notice until late also went to Alabama. Well as a recruit that does not seem to be good for my future so I go to Alabama. I am sure Ga will not use Douglas and Turman much this year when basically they should….Someone said they combination would keep the rb fresh. Well keeping all those wr’s happy and the TE’s happy there is not enough footballs to go around especially when we score real quickly an then put the pressure on this very young defense that GA will have next year. Bobo and Richt and whoever is the DC will have to really consider their philosophy to even come close to the success GA had in 12. Not sure the staff is open minded enough to consider competition as they supposedly did several years ago.