Fan talk: Should UGA give Mark Richt a raise and Mark Fox another year?
Who will Mark Richt sign? And does he deserve a raise? (Associated Press)
The Bulldog Nation seems a bit preoccupied lately with trying to read the signs and smoke signals and determine who’s going where on college football’s national signing day this coming Wednesday.
It’s like an old-fashioned cliff-hanger: Will a “confused” Laremy Tunsil escape the evil clutches of Hugh Freeze and return safely to the fold in Athens? (And just what kind of Kool-Aid is Freeze serving in Oxford these days?) Can Mark Richt lure Alvin Kamara away from “Nicky Satan” and his deer-antler spray?
Compelling storylines, all. But I’m not and never have been a recruitnik. I just can’t get too enthused about constantly following and fretting over the whims and mood swings of a bunch of 18-year-olds who are prone to change their minds every day or so.
I prefer to wait until we know how Richt and his staff actually did. So drop by after we find out Wednesday who the Dogs have signed, and we’ll talk a bit of recruiting.
In the meantime, let’s dig into some Junkyard Mail. …
Paul Angle writes: Bill, I heard some talk on sports radio recently that Greg McGarity and the athletic board are likely to give Mark Richt a pay raise soon. I’ll grant you that the past two seasons have been a great improvement over the malaise that had enveloped Georgia football since 2008, but I’m just not convinced UGA should be rewarding a head coach who hasn’t won the conference since 2005 and still doesn’t have a BCS title. Especially considering that the 2012 season was probably Georgia’s best shot for a while at getting to the national championship game, and Richt still didn’t get it done. What do you think, does he deserve a raise?
Short answer: Yes. First, let me say that the compensation of college football coaches in general has gotten insanely out of proportion over the past decade, but that’s unfortunately the system we have right now. Last year, Richt was the fifth best-paid coach in the SEC and if he doesn’t get a raise this year he’ll slip down to sixth. The top three are, not surprisingly, Nick Saban, Les Miles and Steve Spurrier. But without a raise Richt also will trail newcomers Bret Bielema at Arkansas and Butch Jones at Tennessee and be just barely ahead of Missouri’s Gary Pinkel! Judged on the basis of what his team has achieved the past two years, winning the SEC East and coming a whisker away from a spot in the BCS national championship game, Richt certainly deserves to be on a par with Spurrier and ahead of the new guys. As for complaints about what Richt has managed to accomplish at UGA, I like how Chris Low of ESPN put it recently: “He was one tipped pass from playing for the national title this season. He’s been to the SEC championship game each of the past two years. So he’s obviously swimming in the right waters. To win championships, the breaks have to go your way. But you also have to get there, and Georgia has done that the past two years under Richt.”
Mark Fox needs to up his game in recruiting. (Associated Press)
Several letter writers have had Georgia’s troubled men’s basketball program on their minds. Steve Yearta is representative of them when he writes: Bill, Things only seem to be getting worse for the basketball Dogs. With the abundant basketball talent in this state I don’t see why Georgia can’t at least be competitive in the SEC year in and year out. Do you think that Greg McGarity will look to make a coaching change at the end of the season if, to borrow a phrase, there’s no “significant improvement”?
While three wins in the past four conference games and some winnable matches coming up in an off-year for the SEC have the season not looking quite as dire for Mark Fox’s team as it did a couple of weeks ago, there’s no denying UGA basketball isn’t very good right now. The problem isn’t that Fox doesn’t know how to coach basketball, but he hasn’t had much recruiting success since Trey Thompkins and Travis Leslie left early to join the pros. Because of injury problems, some players not developing as quickly as anticipated and recruiting whiffs, the Dogs right now are basically a one-man team: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. He’s a top-flight talent and was a major signing for Fox. But he’s not enough. Overall, the Dogs don’t shoot well, can’t hold a lead and can’t consistently make free-throws. Even some of Georgia’s wins have been pretty ugly, but that’s not surprising considering how many young players are getting substantial minutes on the court. “These guys need time. I’ve got a freshman, sophomore and freshman on the perimeter,” Fox noted recently. Unfortunately, the UGA basketball fan base typically only turns out for a winner that’s tournament-worthy, so crowds at the Steg are looking kind of sparse these days. Still, I don’t think a coaching change is likely this year. Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity has said he feels “really good about what Mark’s doing” in terms of “not taking any shortcuts.” So I think Fox will get another season to try to get KCP some help on the court. As Fox said, “We need a guy that can finish plays. We need a good player.” Bottom line: Fox needs to find a way to get some recruiting juice in Athens.
Jim P. writes: Bill, I don’t know who this Jason Aldean guy is, but he better be a Bulldog fan to have the honor of first crack at a Sanford Stadium concert in history! Honestly, I have mixed thoughts about concerts there. To me and many others Sanford Stadium is sacred, hallowed ground. After all, football is a religion here in the South! Yet, I can’t believe we said no to [Bruce] Springsteen. I hope concerts in the future are reserved only for singers/bands of such a high scale and regard.
Sanford Stadium headliner Jason Aldean is a big Dawgs fan. (Associated Press)
Aldean, one of the biggest stars in country music, is indeed a lifelong Georgia Bulldog fan. The Macon native’s first game in Athens was Clemson in 2002, for which he had a sideline pass. He told ESPN a while back: “It was like going to church. I didn’t think it was possible, but I became an even bigger fan after that. Experiencing the players running by you and petting Uga … it was surreal. It was spiritual.” By the way, UGA is in good company playing host to one of the stadium dates on Aldean’s Night Train tour. The others: Boston’s Fenway Park and Chicago’s Wrigley Field. As for future concerts, considering you’re talking acts that would need to sell at least 66,000 tickets, I don’t think anyone but a big name is likely to be considered for a show Between the Hedges.
Barry Clinton writes: Hi Bill. I was wondering what your take is on the planned four-team playoff. The BCS system is broken in my view and should be totally abandoned, but does this move toward a playoff really inprove on the flaws that clearly exist in the ranking mechanisms? For example, how in God’s name does Notre Dame still get a ranking of No.1 by one of the computer rankings? Talk about misrepresenting reality. Anyway, your take on this would be appreciated, and thanks again for the opportunities you provide through your blog.
Thanks, Barry. I think a four-team playoff will be an improvement over the BCS format but certainly won’t solve all the problems in determining a national champion or eliminate deserving teams getting left out. Generally, the thinking of college football gurus is that an eight-team playoff would be the best way to determine the final No. 1 team, but there’s not yet enough support for that. As for computer rankings, I’ve never been a fan of them and the recent case of the Colley Matrix, one of six computer systems used by the BCS, still ranking the Fighting Irish No. 1 even after they’d been demolished by Alabama in the BCS title game just showed how flawed they are.
Marie Doolittle writes: Bill, I really enjoy your Blawg and your devotion to the Dawgs. I’m also a lifelong Bulldogs fan and also a big fan of the SEC in general. I wasn’t crazy about the conference expanding to 14 teams and I’m still not sure Missouri is SEC-worthy, but it’s fun having Johnny Football in the conference. I’m not sure I want the conference to expand any further, though, and yet I keep reading that the Big 10 might make a move to trigger another round of conference expansions. If that happens and the SEC feels it must add schools, who would you like to see Mike Slive go after?
I’m with you, Marie, in that I really hope the SEC doesn’t grow beyond 14 teams any time soon. But if the dominoes start falling, the conference might not have a choice if it wants to stay competitive for TV money. As for who to go after, Florida State would be a marquee addition, but the Gators aren’t crazy about the idea and the general feeling is that if FSU bolts the ACC, they’re more likely to go to the Big 12. Virginia Tech is another program that would fit in well, especially in terms of football culture. But the scenario that I find most interesting would see the SEC going after North Carolina and Duke to bolster both its basketball and academic standing, in addition to adding the North Carolina, Virginia and District of Columbia TV markets. Virginia also would be a possibility. If the conference must expand, any of those schools would be good additions.
Steve Upshaw writes: Bill, Our fans are so very boring. Alabama, Auburn, Mizzou and most others acknowledge every first down. Bama yells “Roll Tide,” Vandy yells “First down Dores” after a first down. Missouri spells “MIZ-ZOU.” You get the point. We don’t acknowledge first downs at all. We need to do this by screaming “Go Dogs!” after each first down. Not doing/saying something is embarrassing.
Sounds like a pretty good idea to me, but something like that is only going to catch on if pretty much the entire student section takes it up. Maybe if someone involved with the cheerleading program reads your idea, they might give it a try.
That’s it for now. One last note: The 8th-ranked Gym Dogs return home at 4 p.m. Saturday to face their old nemesis, No. 5 Alabama, at Stegeman Coliseum. In addition to the meet itself, which should be a good one, it will be “alumni night,” with a celebration of past Gym Dog greats and the 1993 and 1998 national championship teams honored. Sounds like a fun way to spend a Saturday in Athens.
Go Dogs!
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sc fan
February 2nd, 2013
10:46 am
Sad that he season is over. 8 months ! ouch. congrats on a good season.
YHCDawg
February 2nd, 2013
10:46 am
First? Anyway – If we must, I like the idea of adding Clemson and UNC
Joey
February 2nd, 2013
11:06 am
My answer to the raise is NO. Richt willingly entered into a 5-year contract, at a specific amount. He also received close to $500,000 in bonuses with winning the East, a bowl, and final ranking in Top 5. Richt probably could get another $1M for winning a BCS Title.
He agreed to that 5-year deal because he wanted the security of it. Stick to it for 3 or 4 years, then redo it. Not now. Not after 1 year. Imigine what a doofus we will think McGarity is, if he gives Richt a huge payraise, then we go 8-5 next year.
We went 12-2 with the 40th hardest schedule last season. No bad. But not great.
Let’s see what Richt does with probably the 5th or so most difficult schedule coming up before we go to worrying what other coaches are making.
Bulldawg35
February 2nd, 2013
11:17 am
I like your blog king. But we have bigger problems like recruiting. I can’t believe tunsil is going to ole miss….this is a tragedy. Foster going to auburn and dee liner sticking with Bama. Carl lawson committed to auburn and not budging at all. Alvin kamara probably will commit to Bama as well. Adams might go to auburn. The number one prospect in the whole nation Robert kimdeniche…how ever you spell his name. From our own beloved state never even considered us. How in the hell does this happen? What once looked like a number one class in the world is now in danger at finishing at best 15th in the nation is unacceptable. Their will be no 5 star recruits in this class. So I say no to anybody on the whole coaching staff getting a raise. They should be put on notice for this debacle once again at closing out a once promising class. Richt says Uga sells its self, that use to be the case but not anymore these coaches need to make these recruits feel wanted at the university
Joey
February 2nd, 2013
11:36 am
I am all for McGarity giving Richt more money for “support staff” as Bama likes to call it. Call it what you like, but it’s within the rules, and obviously pays huge dividends.
I’d like to see UGA go hire some assistants that are actually considered among the best in the country. Not talking about the OC and DC – I think they do well with what they have to work with – instead, S&C, and a few position coaches who are underperforming need to go, and be replaced by the very best, not promoted from within.
Bulldawg35
February 2nd, 2013
11:45 am
Sander ogletree just got booted off the team team for his 3rd drug offense….what the hell is going on now geez….that explains why we offered a 2 star commit and stole him from tech. He will never see the field…..@ joey you are a fool if you think Richt deserves a raise right now….if we win 11 games in 2013…then give him a raise. Because 2012 was his most talented team and easiest schedule in the Richt era and got blew out bu the rabid chickens 35-7. We should of won the mnc….
casual observer
February 2nd, 2013
12:50 pm
I am a Tech fan, and maybe I shouldn’t even be on this blog, but I would like to respectfully submit my opinions. I would say YES to both questions. I have to begrudgingly admit that both are outstanding programs. Richt deserves a lot of credit for righting the ship and making a serious run at the national title. As for Fox, despite losing to Tech, he is a great game day coach and his teams will make a good showing in the SEC this year and will contend for the SEC title next year. They are both really good, solid men , without any hint of scandal and UGA should keep them both for as long as they can.
A person SMART enough to know.....
February 2nd, 2013
12:53 pm
No on Richt(BCS CG for Raise) and Fox needs to Stay forever. He is GREAT.
A person SMART enough to know.....
February 2nd, 2013
1:00 pm
Marie Doolittle…….Mizzou Helped the SEC double the number of AAU members. You might be right that Mizzou is not SEC worthy, but then neither are Texas A&M, Vandy and Florida. They actually are Highly respected ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS as proven by their membership in the AAU. VANDY should be in the ACC and MIZZOU should be in the B1G.
Desert Fox
February 2nd, 2013
1:05 pm
Bulldawg35
February 2nd, 2013
11:17 am
They must have some real smart recruiters at Ole Miss. Recruiting N’s older bro was very smart and now looks like they’ll get younger bro Robert N the #1 player in the country. How GA misses the boat on all this in state talent going elsewhere leaves a lot to be desired w/CMR and his staff. GA rarely keeps the best players at home and rarely gets 5 stars to come from out of state. They get a few but most go elsewhere even when there seems to be log jams for playing time where they wait to play or eventually transfer. Its real hard to compete w/AL w/all the NC’s and coaching legends. Appears now MS will out recruit GA this year. If they ever get a good QB and one good RB I think they’ll contend for the SEC and maybe a NC in a few years. That’ll attract even better recriuts. As they say, there’s always next year.
Roll Tide 48
February 2nd, 2013
1:15 pm
Yes! Give Richt a pay raise and keep him for a long, long time. Go Dawgs! Sic’em! Woof! Woof! Woof!
JACKIE B.
February 2nd, 2013
3:32 pm
TO ALL THOSE CONCERNED ABOUT NOT GETTING 5 STAR PLAYERS. I DO NOT THINK THAT IS BAD. TOO MANY OF THOSE GUYS PLAY NOT TO GET HURT. THEY DO NOT GO ALL OUT TO WIN. LOOK AT THE EVIL ONE. HE SEEMS TO NEVER GET A 5 STAR, BUT HE MAKES REAL STARS OUT OF HIS 4′S. SO COOL DOWN.
Bulldawg35
February 2nd, 2013
4:22 pm
Ha ha Jackie…..you delusional moron, the number one reason we haven’t won the mnc since 1980 is we can’t keep the best players in state. If we were really going to turn the corner in this program….Robert dekimechie and foster would be committing to us on feb 6. We should of been in the top 5 in recruiting this year. But now ole miss is going to finish ahead of us…..how sad. We will be 8-4 in 13′…..and 9-3 in 14…….so sick of our poor recruiting
Dawg Recruiter
February 2nd, 2013
4:29 pm
Jackie Bee- I know recruiting is not a focus for GT, but get your facts straight. The “Evil One” is loaded with 5 star recruits every year, he has 10 over 3 years. The Dawgs get 1 every 3 years.
Moist Dawg
February 2nd, 2013
5:01 pm
Why would we discuss Richt getting a raise before the season? Let’s talk about that raise when he hoists that cristal ball over his head. I would also support giving him a raise if he can prove that old miss is cheating like smu.
Pitbull
February 2nd, 2013
5:08 pm
Sounds like Bulldawg35 is either a Tech poser or 35 is his IQ. Grow up son.
Pitbull
February 2nd, 2013
5:14 pm
Oh, and BTW…..Brendan Douglas, a fullback from Aquinas high school in Augusta, switched his commitment from Georgia Tech to UGA on Friday, and he confirmed it to the AJC.
In other news, Coach Fox and his Dawgs just beat South Carolina.
It’s great to be a Georgia Bulldog.
UGA Alum
February 2nd, 2013
5:41 pm
I think it’s a great idea to pursue Duke and Noth Carolina for all the reasons Bill noted, plus neither team would ever be a threat in football.
lizard man
February 2nd, 2013
6:06 pm
no raises until the next SEC win and if that does not come in the next 2 years——huh well——-go from there—–
North Georgia Dawg
February 2nd, 2013
6:39 pm
Georgia just won its fourth SEC game of the season, this one was by 11 on the road. Georgia has some work to do, but there is no doubt the team has improved. Gaines and Mann are playing their best basketball and even Cannon made an impact off the bench. Georgia is not a good team, but they certainly are a lot better than they were at the start of January. Go dawgs!
Ray
February 2nd, 2013
7:10 pm
If Mark Fox could finish out the season around 17-15 or even higher the recruits will come, and not only that if he could win the SEC(has happened before with just as bad a record) then more guys will be willing to stay in GA, but you got to give them some credit as easily as they’ve been 10-11 so far could have been more like 14-7 right now or better. I see at least 3 games that could have been won early on, but it is what it is.
North Georgia Dawg
February 2nd, 2013
7:46 pm
Richt is already making a good salary, so no. Richt is happy in Athens and isn’t going to leave because he’s not getting as much money as other coaches. He’s not as obsessed with money as some of the other coaches. If anything, put incentives in his contract to reward him for reaching and also winning the SEC Championship and for BCS bowl game appearances.
RED DOG 77
February 2nd, 2013
8:12 pm
If any coach in college football should get a pay “bump” it’s Mark Richt, and add Todd Grantham to that group as well…………..Richt has always been a great coach, but when he hired Grantham……….”BOOM” you elevated to the next level…………The haters can rage-on all they want, but the fact of the matter is coach Richt is a top 4 or 5 coach nationally……..HINT………look at his “body of work”…………….I rest my case……………….Another great article ,Bill………….Regards, RED
Bulldawg35
February 2nd, 2013
8:40 pm
@ pit bull……you are crazy bro…..I’m a dawg fan who is sick and tired of not signing the states best. We are in for a rude awaking with next years schedule….we are likely to be 0-2 to start the season. We have only 1 proven player on defense and that’s Jordan Jenkins
The Tide is Rolling and Nothing Can Stop it!
February 2nd, 2013
9:49 pm
Why not, you gave Todd Grantham a raise after averaging 37 pts to ranked teams…
Look where that got you.
Thrown around like a bunch of girls in the SEC championship
The Tide is Rolling and Nothing Can Stop it!
February 2nd, 2013
9:50 pm
Oh yea…great job on locking down your borders.
32 years…
Moist Dawg
February 2nd, 2013
10:12 pm
Instead of giving CMR a raise why dont we just use that money to buy players like bama and old miss does. Oh, I know why, because we are not a disgrace that has to lie and cheat like those two programs, and auburn to. Sickening and disgusting.
North Georgia Dawg
February 2nd, 2013
10:12 pm
Sorry if I’m not intimidated by Georgia playing early games against Clemson or LSU. They are both good teams that “could” beat us, but LSU is losing a ton off their defense and with their quarterback, I like our chances. I believe they also lost 4 of their top 5 defensive linemen. LSU’s offense is only good if they are getting a lot of yards on the ground. As for Clemson, I was happy to see them beat LSU because they have lost more close games the last few years than anyone I can think of. But I’m not sold on their defense. Plus, they played in the ACC.
South Carolina, on the other hand, I’m definitely worried about. They will be a very tough opponent again next season.
Snoop Dawgg
February 2nd, 2013
10:57 pm
The answer os no. Are you folks stupid or what?
Snoop Dawgg
February 2nd, 2013
11:05 pm
Mark Richt is an albatross around Georgia’s neck.
What objective metric would you like to consider?
Recruiting? How many of the state’s top 20 has Richt signed?
Discipline? Don’t think so?
Game plans? No…
Leadership on the field? Gimme a break. He is Buddha…
This guy is a multi-million dollar scam artist.
But hes
Snoop Dawgg
February 2nd, 2013
11:06 pm
A born again Christian so that justifies why he is fabulously wealthy ar Georgia’s expense– for what?
Abe Lincoln
February 2nd, 2013
11:18 pm
If Richt had the success Auburn had the past two seasons, he would be gone and his Christianity would not be a reason to keep him. The athletic director is not keeping him because of his religion either. His religion is simply something a lot of fans like about him. But he’s been more successful than most of the coaches in the south. Besides Saban and Sumlin, are there any coaches that you can say have had more success than Richt the last two seasons?
Abe Lincoln
February 2nd, 2013
11:19 pm
*I mean current SEC coaches.
JRW7
February 2nd, 2013
11:41 pm
Seems like Ole Miss is buying players, we can’t compete with them, CMR’S too honest!
Fridawg
February 2nd, 2013
11:45 pm
Give Richt the raise. You pay what the market demands, not what fans approve. There’s no way you insult him by letting Butch Jones and Bielema get more $$ than him.
Somebody was ragging on Richt for not recruiting Denzel Nkemdiche. He was considered academically out of it by everybody but Ole Miss, and the kid pulled it together late. Kudos to Ole Miss for their success recruiting. I just feel bad for these kids that will go there only to realize they are living in Mississippi and never playing for a trophy.
Joey
February 3rd, 2013
9:31 am
“.@ joey you are a fool if you think Richt deserves a raise right now….”
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Bulldog35, what part of my post (11:06) did you NOT comprehend?
It started like this: “My answer to the raise is NO.”
Hows about working on your own reading skills before tossing around words like, “fool” and “moron.”
Either one could apply to you at this point . . .
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BigDawg1980
February 3rd, 2013
10:33 am
As far as basketball news, Gaines needs to be playing a lot more minutes because this guy can score. Tim Dixon needs to ride the pine because he is way too soft and is clumsy. I liked what I saw out of Cannon yesterday so give him some more minutes. Please work on Free throw shooting. This has cost us a few games already this year. Just think if we would have beaten lowly Miss St. we would be 5-3 in the SEC. Go Dawgs. Get it Done!
Snoop Dawgg
February 3rd, 2013
10:57 am
If da Preach Man wants a raise, tell him the school will. Make a donation to a worthy cause he approves.
In these times, his current salary of $3Ma year is obscene.
dawggirl
February 3rd, 2013
11:04 am
“We have only 1 proven player on defense and that’s Jordan Jenkins”
Um, Damian Swann?
Bulldawg35
February 3rd, 2013
11:32 am
Richt recruiting tactics are just outdated. Richt needs to re think things and go with a different approach. How many of the top ten players in our state are going to sign with us on feb 6? I’m just going to lower my expectations I don’t see us ever winning the mnc with Richt. We can sign good players but never great ones
Bulldawg35
February 3rd, 2013
11:34 am
@joey…..on a scale of 1 to 10….how much of a moron would u say that you are? Thanks I will be waiting on your pathetic answer……have a nice day booger eater
Joey
February 3rd, 2013
12:16 pm
“booger eater” lol. Keep it classy doofus.
Oh and it seems that you are getting the majority of the votes for “moron of the blog.”
Congrats.
Bulldawg35
February 3rd, 2013
1:16 pm
Joey…..dude I know that I hurt your feelings that bad brah….I would apologise but I don’t feel sorry for a delusional moron like u. Lol. Richt cannot pull in any of the top 20 prospects in the state of Georgia. All of the recruiting experts know that Georgia is in the top five most talented state for recruits. If we can keep the best players in the damn state we could win the mnc. But year after year Richt fails to do that. We will not get Robert n. or foster nether Adams or kamara. Nor lawson…..how pathetic is that?
Dang Dawg
February 3rd, 2013
2:40 pm
No raise for Mark Richt ,until he wins a SEC title or National title And start winning some big games.
Lonnie
February 4th, 2013
1:11 am
On our defense we have garrison smith Damian Swann and Jordan Jenkins returning along with ray drew who played well in bowl game and josh and Sheldon Dawson as well as chase Vassar so really we have 6 guys returning who started and josh harve Clements. We will be alright 10-3 or 11-2……
AltamahaDawg
February 4th, 2013
8:38 am
Bill AFTER Wednesday is not “recruiting” anymore.
On the pay raise. 3 points:
First. Anybody saying Richt doesn’t deserve a raise “untill he does this or that” may as well just he honest and admit what they are really saying is that “untill I get what I want”. IN term of running a college football program, the man does as well as all but about 3 guys in he entire nation. If those folks did as well as he does at thier job, you BET they would be demanding raises every year. And they probably get one.
Second. I doubt that money is really what motivates Richt, so I would think his discussions with McGarity are much more involved than $$$.
Third. Obviously UGA need to keep in mind where thier HC rank in term of compensation. As you point out, like it or not, this IS the system. We don’t need chase those school competing to see how can have THE highest paid, but we have to stay in line. (and 6th in the SEC ain’t in line, with our status)
Joey
February 4th, 2013
8:44 am
Haha – a dork who calls posters on a football blog, “brah,” ain’t gonna hurt my feelings.
AltamahaDawg
February 4th, 2013
9:46 am
Um yea……using “dude” AND “brah” in the same sentence is a pretty big giveaway.
AltamahaDawg
February 4th, 2013
9:56 am
On the subnject of Ogletree…..
It’s a good thing for him that he isn’t at some of our other fine institutions in the SEC. or that third failed drug test would surely force him to sit the first half of the spring game. You know, cause they have such great “discipline”.
Columbus Dawg
February 4th, 2013
10:14 am
I can only hope that any other troublemakers are dealt with before spring starts, this being an Ogletree brother does not surprise. The locker room needs to be rid of the rats before we get it going for 2013. I’m with some others who think it would be a blessing not to have the R. Foster diva to worry with. Kind of sad to see Tunsil going to collect his money, I mean sign with Freeze. Looks like Miles may be upping his ante to get Nkemdiche away from Freeze, but who knows, Freeze may put in more chips. There is no way that The University of Mississippi is not breaking rules. Looks like Hicks will have to step up at the fullback position. It is a shame, especially with the great bowl game that Zander had. As far as Richt’s raise, if he does not get his players in line, and put an”Elite”, (His words not mine), team on the field for 2013, then his seat will become very, very, warm again. I don’t care what that B.S Bleacher Report site says.
Columbus Dawg
February 4th, 2013
10:21 am
It is very obvious that since the NCAA is no longer willing to enforce rules, that some programs that may not have cheated before are doing whatever they want to get recruits. It is obvious that the NCAA is willing to let The University of Alabama do as it darn well pleases. I do not see how the NCAA’s pick and choose attitude on which programs to harass has not made it into the court system by now.
Bulldawg35
February 4th, 2013
10:38 am
@ joey….liar your feelings are hurt! It’s okay real men do cry…but that’s not the case with u old boy! Another terrible year for our defense a coming. I hope ctg does go to the eagles. We need to hire a dc that can stop the run
Bulldawg35
February 4th, 2013
10:45 am
Now dexter morant is leaving the team….the man had talent but Grantham couldn’t get anything out of him….another wasted scholarship
Jborodawg
February 4th, 2013
11:28 am
Yes to a raise for coach Richt for his record and if nothing else, for parity. He should not be making less than the newer coaches. I agree totally that, “…compensation of college football coaches in general has gotten insanely out of proportion…” LIke you said, it’s just the state of things and we have to pretty much play along with it. I agree with you “Fridawg”…You pay what the market demands. “Bulldawg35″, you’re delusional to insist on a #1 recruiting class as the criteria for keeping coach Richt. Perennial top 10 aint too shabby. “Sander ogletree”?
Yes for at least one more year for coach Fox. Hopefully his recruiting will get better.
The sparse crowds at the Steg for the BB Dawgs is pretty embarrassing when they’re on TV. A bigger point is that the team needs fan support. I don’t know the stats, but I’d bet we have one of the worst attendance records in the SEC.
BCS and Playoffs: I used to think the computers were the way to go; logical and unbiased. Now we see they just don’t work. Whomever is programming them has put in faulty parameters…or something. Add to that the national media’s love affair with ND. Everybody and his brother clamored for playoffs. The upcoming system is flawed also in that you have to ask, “Who picks the four teams?” If it was in place last year ND would have no doubt been included.
Steve Upshaw: I think a lot of fans are “boring” also when they leave in the middle of the fourth quarter; or earlier, regardless of the score. I think we are some of the worst in the SEC in that regard. Those people miss out on some good football much of the time; not to mention seeing some new faces getting to play and us seeing what they can or can’t do. That, and far too many fans filing in late; not in their seats at kickoff.
Expansion: I hate it even today that T A&M and Mizzou were added. It’s bad enough getting to Fayetteville, AR…or even Starkville. Just a lot of lip service about student athletes; it’s all about the money.
Joey
February 4th, 2013
11:38 am
I’m neither a liar, a cryer, and have been around the block enough that my feelings never get hurt. I’ve also been on these football blogs for 3 years, and deal with blowhards like you all the time.
But feel free to go ahead with your strange obsession with “feelings,” little feller.
I noticed that girly-men don’t last long on here.
Bob
February 4th, 2013
12:25 pm
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Bob
February 4th, 2013
12:34 pm
NO they shouldnt give Richt a raise! Once again Richt and his staff are losing out on a lot of blue chippers to other teams. Im sick and tired of losing to South Carolina and even now Dumbo Dabo at Clemson is out recruiting Richt in our own backyard. Our fans need to demand and expect better. Our kool Aid Drinkers like to point to our record this past year. Heck several teams in the ACC would have had the same record with UGA’s schedule this past year. The Score didnt reflect the SEC championship game either as Alabama completely dominated that game. Cant wait to see on wednesday afternoon when a bunch of old men will be milling around the Mehre Building with dumb looks on their faces trying to convince themselves that UGA had a great recruiting class. Stay Tuned Kool Aid Drinkers!
Bulldawg35
February 4th, 2013
12:44 pm
Well I’ve been on these blogs for 8 years….what’s your point old boy? You ain’t man enough to admit that I crushed your feelings dip stick.lol. You know on second thought give Richt a raise. It’s not his coaching its we just don’t have the talent that Bama has. Getting 5 yards within beating Bama should of been enough to reel in foster and Robert n. I stand by my damn opinion that this class should been top 3!!!
Bulldawg35
February 4th, 2013
12:56 pm
I agree bob…..I’m sick and tired of missing out on our states best recruits!!!! Foster is already 240 lbs. he would be perfect for Todd’s 3-4 scheme. But oh he’ll no he moved out of the state to get away from us….now he is going to show up on signing day with an elephant tattooed to his chest!!!! I’m sick and damn tired of this pathetic coaching staff missing out on the states best prospects…..I’m madder than hell….Mcgarity please hire somebody who can lock the state down….geez
uncle kirk
February 4th, 2013
1:17 pm
Bob, you are the dumbest person on this blog. We were winning by 11 in the 3rd qtr. How is that being dominated the whole game. How exactly is Dabo out recruiting us. He got none from Ga. last year. Adams is gonna sign with UGA. Bulldawg35 is a close 2nd.
Bulldawg35
February 4th, 2013
2:02 pm
@ little kirk……you really think we will get Adams??lol. I don’t think so. I’m the smartest human in the world. I work out and I eat healthy….I’m married to the hottest woman in the world. I have money and my wife treats me like the king I am…..I’m in awe of myself…..right now I am basking in all of my glory…..I’m the greatest human being alive right now….so I think I’m pretty smart little man
Bulldawg35
February 4th, 2013
2:35 pm
Bama will get the big 3 from the state of Georgia……kamara and Von bell….foster. Tunsil is a ole miss lock. Carl lawson will sign with Bama…….geez……I’m really sick!!! This coaching staff really whiffed on closing out on this recruiting class.
Bob
February 4th, 2013
2:49 pm
Kirk…you must be a complete DA. The game has 4 quarters not 3. Bama Domminated the Stats! I wanst talking about Dabo in what he did last year Im talking about NOW. You must still be stuck in 1980 like the rest of kool aid dringing fans. Get your head out of the sand!
UGA Insider
February 4th, 2013
3:39 pm
Coaching staff is scrambling to fill the 35 spots…..I do not mean to sound negative but we are going to “whiff” on all of the big name gambles like we did last season. It’s as simple as this folks… We run an ethical program and we are being outspent. Why in the world would a player ever want to live in Auburn, AL? Mainly because they are being paid well and that is a fact.
Bulldawg35
February 4th, 2013
3:54 pm
Hell we whiffed on everybody….the only people to get excited about in this stupid class is tray Mathews. Geez we’re terrible at recruiting the last two years
Joey
February 4th, 2013
3:55 pm
Bob, spew all you want to but, that game was close, score-wise and stat-wise. Bama’s biggest lead was 4 points. There were 4 lead changes in the 4 quarter alone. Only 100 total yards difference in offensive yards.
If you think 100 yards in offensive yards over an opponent, means a domination, hell, the Falcons DOMINATED the 49ers two weeks ago! 477-373! Falcons win!
Whoo-hoo!
Joey
February 4th, 2013
3:58 pm
UGA Insider, I believe there are more big-name recruits moving to Oxford, MS than to Auburn, AL.
Bulldawg35
February 4th, 2013
4:04 pm
We only have one commit out of the espn top 50……how damn sad is that. This recruiting class is going to hurt us in the next couple of years…..
Bulldawg35
February 4th, 2013
4:51 pm
Who is all is going to watch foster commit to Bama tonight?
AltamahaDawg
February 4th, 2013
9:47 pm
You don’t mean to sound negative? really? That’s new.
Bulldawg35
February 4th, 2013
11:25 pm
How many of you all watched foster commit to Bama ?? Exciting time for Uga recruiting huh? This poor finish in recruiting will set us back for years. I can’t wait for that fat punk Grantham to pack his bags for the eagles.
Brian
February 5th, 2013
5:18 am
If he wins us a National Championship before his contract’s up, then they can talk about giving him a raise. Until then, he needs to honor the contract he just signed.
Bulldawg35
February 5th, 2013
8:33 am
According to sources we are going to miss out on Adams and kamara. I will not be watching signing day our coaches really failed to finish this class geez. I hope Grantham leaves Thursday. I can’t believed he is even being considered for another job when I have been waiting three years for him to perform on this one
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
8:39 am
I am sure you will be watching signing day. Just not ours.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 5th, 2013
9:02 am
Altamaha
Richt doesnt deserve another pay raise until he starts winning on the big stage until then he is well paid already
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
9:09 am
I agree. VERY well paid. Every Coach in the SEC is well paid. They all would agree with that I am sure. Which has nothing to do with it..
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
9:18 am
Of ALL the folks in here, Including Bill King…….that said they thought Richt would get a raise, I actually said that I doubted monetary compensation would be a big item between Richt and Mcgarity (and only because we need to stay up to date within the “system”, right or wrong)..and YET, YOU single me out by name, as usual.
I’m flatered, But seriously, I can do without the stalking.
The Dogfather
February 5th, 2013
9:21 am
@ BULLDOG 35- go pound sand – and go back to your miserable existence- you do not belong on this blog- like joey said’YOU BLOWHARD”
Bulldawg35
February 5th, 2013
9:23 am
I know what u are trying to Say man…..go ahead and cop out and not face reality by saying that. But I’m dawg brother. I’ve been a dawgfan for 26 years….I just want a mnc….I don’t want to wait another 32 years…..with the talent we have in this damn state a championship is not to much to ask for. But we can’t lock down the state so we will continue to get beat by sc….that will never get us a mnc
Bulldawg35
February 5th, 2013
9:26 am
Dog father…..did you type this message from the nursing home…..who is spoon feeding you?? Nick saban . Lol
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
9:32 am
Yes, we get that you are one of the 10 million people who decided that Georgia was your favorite college football team. You certainly deserve YOUR championship trophy for all you’ve done.
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
9:43 am
“….the only people to get excited about in this stupid class is tray Mathews.”
That right there tells me that you don’t know squat about the in-state talent that you keep harping on.
Joey
February 5th, 2013
10:00 am
Wow, still making friends I see.
“Poor finish?”
30 committs:
13 four-star
16 three-star
Rated #9 by Scout.com.
If we don’t sign another recruit, it’s still a damn good class. And I bet we get 4 or 5 more.
But don’t let facts get in your way.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 5th, 2013
10:02 am
So the University of Georgia should have to pay more money due to a “system” even though the person is well paid already and hasnt shown they deserve another raise
Yea that has worked so far for us with Grantham getting his raise even though our defense cant stop anyone who is ranked in the top 20
Columbus Dawg
February 5th, 2013
10:16 am
I’m with Flat Tire, if I were the incoming prez at UGA, I would call a meeting with Richt and Grantham and lay it out for them, they go two out of three on Clemson, South Carolina, and LSU, and they keep their jobs. Raise my…
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
10:23 am
No, they shouldn’t HAVE to, but in the world of reality, I am sure they WANT to make sure the football program is in line with norms. For a number of reasons which are in thier own self interests.
And what constitutes “deserve” is merely your own personal opinion. One that matters not.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 5th, 2013
10:44 am
I didnt know in the world of reality that getting a raise that hasnt been earned is the norm
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 5th, 2013
10:46 am
I guess the “norm” at UGA is come make a lot of money get good pay raises but dont worry about winning big
Do you have any openings at your job? Im ready to come work for a company that pays really well, gives raises, and doesnt require much performance out of me
Joey
February 5th, 2013
10:49 am
My argument isn’t whether Richt deserves a raise or not.
I just bothers me that a new, 5-year contract was only signed 6 months ago, and already, McGarity is ready to toss it in the trash, apparently at least partially because, some SEC programs had to overpay some coaches to pry them away from their current employers.
Okay so, what if Right signs a new deal paying him more than the new coaches, then Bielema goes 12-1 with the Razorbacks this season and his boss throws more money at him.
Is it time to up Richt’s again?
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
10:54 am
Well, that’s the beauty of not being in charge. You can repeat the same thing 3 time and pretend it matters.
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
11:02 am
Who is that one loss to?
Threeus
February 5th, 2013
11:07 am
First before blaming CMR and his coaches look at what Alabama and Auburn spend on recruiting. They spend twice what UGA spends but send less than half of what UGA football send s to the other athletic programs. This is where the big disparity is. Alabama and Aurburn both spend well over a million dollars on recruiting as opposed to UGA’s 640000.
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
11:12 am
I agree with that Joey.
“deserve” is a fool’s debate.
The cycle of compensation (in sports in general) is something that those of us not involved find pretty offensive.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 5th, 2013
11:14 am
This is a 2 or more loss a season coaching staff please explain to me why they deserve a raise when they havent won the SEC since 05
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
11:19 am
Well if you ask Bill, he would say:
“Judged on the basis of what his team has achieved the past two years, winning the SEC East and coming a whisker away from a spot in the BCS national championship game, Richt certainly deserves to be on a par with Spurrier and ahead of the new guys.”
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 5th, 2013
11:23 am
And then I would say what happened after the 05 season when Richt got his contract redone
And I would also say who did he beat the last 2 seasons????
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
11:36 am
To which I am sure he would stare at you with a puzzled look on his face, wondering how any of that remotely challenged the point he was making.
Bulldawg35
February 5th, 2013
11:39 am
Haha very funny….I know this we missed out on 13 of the top 15 in state. Von bell. Robert nk. Foster. Carl lawson……montravious Adams. Tunsil had been our top recruit for two years and now he will sign with ole miss. We will miss on kamara too. But that’s ok though….theirs always next year. Hey dawg you live in delusional ville …….you have ocean front property there my brother
Bulldawg35
February 5th, 2013
11:46 am
Oh yeah we also whiffed with Derek Henry…..we have no 5 star recruits. Tunsil could of been the missing piece for the offensive line. In today’s college football. Great offensive lines win championships. But oh hell no….we have signed once again lineman that need to come in and put on weight. They are not ready like John theus was……gosh some of you morons are just content with 10-2…when we have the resources and money to do much better than the last two seccgs
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 5th, 2013
11:47 am
Puzzled look???
Whats puzzling about losing again and again on the big stage
Again we havent won big nor have we won an SEC championship since 05 with one of the easiest schedules in college football the past 2 seasons with more talent going to the NFL this year than the National Title winning team AL or the runner up ND
Whats there to be puzzled about
Again why is a raise even being talked about
Joey
February 5th, 2013
11:52 am
The only thing I’ve ever heard out of Mark Richt’s mouth regarding his employment is, “I’ll be Georgia’s football coach for as long as they want me to be.”
No way he’s behind the raise issue.
I just wish if UGA is determined to spend more money, Richt and McGarity would hire better position coaches, and lots more “support staff,” or “analysts” like Saban has done at Bama. It’s within the rules and is certainly part of the obvious edge Bama has on everybody else.
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 5th, 2013
11:54 am
Joey
Obviously you didnt get the memo This coaching staff knows what they are doing
Jborodawg
February 5th, 2013
12:28 pm
Bulldawg35…and others. Me thinks you place way too much emphasis on signing 5 star recruits. Many don’t work out (Crowell just one out of quite a few recently). Whereas sometimes 3 star recruits shine and end up in the NFL. Besides Bama, and maybe LSU, please research the top 5 classes in the past 4 or 5 years and how many of those teams won a ‘mnc’. Then please get back with us on the results. I’ll give ya a hint, starting with S. Cal and Texas.
Bulldawg35
February 5th, 2013
1:32 pm
Haha…..I know this, Bama has out recruited us for the last serval years and they yet again have the best class in the nation and they are winning the damn national championship every year.
Bulldawg35
February 5th, 2013
1:38 pm
I’m so mad about this recruiting I’m about to go outside and bite my chain link fence in half. I’m maaaaadddddd!!!!
UGA Insider
February 5th, 2013
2:32 pm
I have been told that coaches at other schools are telling kids that Grantham is going to the pros in a few days and those lies are hurting us badly on the recruiting trail. I have no idea as to why Grantham won’t come out publicly and denounce these rumors. Stay tuned.
Joey
February 5th, 2013
2:52 pm
Amazing.
Ole Miss, (OLE MISS!) now almost certainly will tomorrow sign:
#1 overall recruit in the country
#1 OT in the country.
#1 WR in the country.
#4 DE in the country.
#6 DE in the country.
Ole Miss.
I think the Mayans were a few weeks off.
Tomorrow is the apocalypse . . .
BOB
February 5th, 2013
5:05 pm
The good news is that the last 2 year’s recruiting classes have left enough talent in the cupboard that the impact of this year’s class will not be felt until 2014-15. The bad news is that a dangerous precedent has been set this year with the losses of commits like Derek Henry and Tunsill; 5 stars who were committed and then left for what they considered greener pastures.And then there is the instate star question- how do let all of the top talent get away?
An intermediate term remedy to improve the faclities should be to add 10,000 seats to Sanford and construct a state of the art indoor practice facility with a weight room that exceeds Alabama’s.
In the next 3 years if there is not an SEC Championship trophy in Athens, then maybe it will be time to check out Charley Strong.
78Dawg
February 5th, 2013
6:37 pm
CMR needs a raise. Georgia’s lucky to have him. DO IT NOW…
Disgusted Dawg
February 5th, 2013
7:18 pm
Sure. Why not? We keep giving him extensions and raises for losing big games and he keeps coming through for us. He is the greatest BIG GAME LOSER in college football.
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
8:20 pm
If Richt did half as poor of a job as you guys suggest there would never BE any “big games” to even worry about.
AltamahaDawg
February 5th, 2013
8:59 pm
Insider, in a cruel joke, those people who “told you” about using Grantham as ammo….. left out the part where they read that on any number of web sites where its been for some time. (see that scoop stated almost verbatim in the Athens paper today, for example)
Doggie in NC
February 6th, 2013
9:26 am
What I can’t figure out is how can the DOGS finish in the top 5, come 5 yards from winning the SEC, and probably the NC, and whiff on the very top rated talent? Any other team would be raking them in with a season like that. Go figure! Still going to be a dang good class of recruits. GO DOGGIES!
Bulldawg35
February 6th, 2013
10:01 am
Adams and tunsil are officially gone. Auburn has lawson and Adams. Damn we suck. This whiff is going to hurt us for years down the road. I hope we don’t miss out on Bellamy either. I guarantee if we beat Bama and win the mnc. Our recruiting class this year will be so much better….I think we finish 13th in this class….which is not good…..cfb is really starting to get boring as hell watching Bama win the mnc over and over again……I’m siccccccckkkkk
Flat Tire Doesnt Live in Delusionalville Ga.
February 6th, 2013
10:06 am
Doggie in NC
Its not hard to figure out; when UGA became known as a program that cant win big games this past season why are these kids going to come here
But hey our coaches deserve a pay raise right
Desert Fox
February 6th, 2013
4:59 pm
The dawgs landed some pretty good players but it is a disappointment not getting any of the states top players to stay home. There’s no doubt they would have made their mark at GA but what it says about recruiting at GA is that kids with their talent would rather go to a school w/NC’s or for reasons unknown if they land at AU or Ole Miss. I think GA’s past, can’t win the big one, etc, has a lot to do w/it. Who knows the reasons. Just have to hope the ones we got can either stop or score on the ones we lost. Good luck dawgs.