Leaving early might not be the best choice for Geathers, Murray (Updated)

Kwame Geathers made this tackle but too often got pushed around against Nebraska. (Associated Press)

Kwame Geathers made this tackle but too often got pushed around against Nebraska. (Associated Press)

A few bowl week observations …

So far, we know that Alec Ogletree and Jarvis Jones, the two members of Mark Richt’s 2012 team considered most likely to leave early, are indeed cutting their UGA playing careers short.

Still to be heard from: nose guard Kwame Geathers and quarterback Aaron Murray.

Retaining one or both would be a big plus for the Dawgs.

Geathers, of course, has always been considered unlikely to return for his senior year, though a lot of college football observers feel he could benefit greatly from another year in Athens. After watching Geathers, who had one solo tackle and two assists, get pushed around by offensive linemen 50 pounds lighter than him in the Capital One Bowl, I’m inclined to agree.

Still, I’ll be suprised if he stays.

Aaron Murray has to decide which he'd rather do next year: Break a bunch of records or hold a clipboard. (Associated Press)

Aaron Murray has to decide which he'd rather do next year: Break a bunch of records or hold a clipboard. (Associated Press)

As for Murray, his pro playing potential has always been considered a little suspect simply because of he’s short for an NFL quarterback (though there are, of course, exceptions like Seattle rookie Russell Wilson that no doubt give him encouragement).

Another year at Georgia isn’t going to see Murray grow any, so basically he’s got to decide whether he wants to have a shot at leaving college owning most of the SEC quarterbacking records or if he’d rather be paid (albeit handsomely) to hold a clipboard next year.

Here’s hoping he decides that whatever NFL future he has can wait another year. …

UPDATE: Murray tweeted Sunday: “Blessed to be the QB for the Dawgs, not ready to leave just yet. Time to get back to work & help lead this team to a championship.”

That’s great news for the 2013 Dawgs, who early in the season might have to depend on outscoring opponents as the defense rebuilds. …

When the BCS bowl lineup first was announced, most of the discussion about which team didn’t really belong centered on Northern Illinois and Louisville.

It turned out, however, that if there was any program that didn’t deserve a BCS slot, it was the Florida Gators, who got the spot Georgia should have had simply because they didn’t make it to the SEC Championship and thus didn’t pick up a second regular season loss. Not only did the Gators lose their bowl game, they did so in particularly unimpressive fashion. And on top of that their fan base didn’t seem too thrilled about the game in New Orleans, resulting in the Sugar Bowl’s smallest crowd since 1939. Chalk up a big whiff for Gator Nation. …

Trash talk from a loser never looks good, but Nebraska QB Taylor Martinez came off particularly clueless this week with his dissing of the Georgia defense after the Cornhuskers lost the Capital One Bowl. His sneering “we pretty much did anything we wanted against them” remark begs the question: If that was the case, why was his offense shut out for the last 25 minutes of the game?

When they first announced the Dawgs’ tough, frontloaded 2013 schedule, featuring September games against Clemson, South Carolina and LSU, I thought Les Miles’ team would be the biggest challenge. But after watching Georgia’s future opponents in bowl play the past week, it looks like the two South Carolina schools will be tougher, especially Clemson.

And after watching LSU in the Chick-fil-A Bowl and Georgia in the Cap One, is there anyone in the Bulldog Nation who still thinks Zach Mettenberger, the quarterback that got away, is the one the Dawgs would have been better off with?

I was amused watching the ESPN crew fall all over themselves describing that Rose Bowl yawner between Stanford and Wisconsin as a “classic” and “rugged” game. Let’s face it, it was just plain boring. But the fact is that the non-title BCS games in general have been among the least interesting of this year’s bowls. Not one of them came close to matching the Capital One or Outback for excitement. …

Georgia Tech's Sun Bowl uniform? Yuck. (Associated Press)

Georgia Tech's Sun Bowl uniform? Yuck. (Associated Press)

Finally, did they blindfold the folks at Georgia Tech who chose that uniform the Jackets wore in the Sun Bowl? In the mix-and-match era typified by Oregon, we’ve seen a lot of nightmare combinations, and nothing can top the garish designs worn by Maryland, but that outfit worn by Tech screamed high school.

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51 comments Add your comment

td

January 4th, 2013
11:24 pm

Never been able to say this on any blog so FIRST. Now to read the article.

FaithfulDawg86

January 4th, 2013
11:41 pm

No doubt Jarvis made the right decision given how long he’s been in school and his past medical issues. I appeciate his time in Athens and look forward to cheering for him on Sundays for a long time to come. I really hope Kwame stays especially with the loss of Big John. I truly believe Murray will stay and break all the records and lead us to an SEC Championship!!

My opinion...

January 5th, 2013
12:48 am

I think it would be in Murray’s best interest to head for the NFL. He’s quite a tough kid but has taken too many brutal hits due to poor OL play. I don’t see the OL getting better anytime soon, so I say leave and don’t risk an injury. Matt Barkley is the perfect example….

My opinion...

January 5th, 2013
12:52 am

Oh, and while I was giggling all through the night after Florida’s dreadful performance, I think myself and dawg nation have a reason to be thankful we weren’t selected for the Sugar Bowl. We obviously would have kept it closer and wouldn’t have been embarrassed, but I have this feeling that Louisville still would have come up with the W. Strong and Bridgewater are scary good….

Sunbury Ga dawg

January 5th, 2013
1:08 am

Jones, go get your money man! you’re a good damn dog and there is no doubt about it! we need more like you who will put the team before themselves. Kwame, hit the weights get coached up and leave next year, you know you are not there yet. Murry, stop throwing those pick sixes please, but i think your a good QB, if you feel the time is right take the leap. for the others, stay out of trouble this summer and in the weight room!

Go dawgs!

Taco Meat

January 5th, 2013
1:22 am

I have to disagree, “My Opinion”. While Bridgewater is good, our quarterback and running backs are much better than UF’s. If anything it would’ve been an offensive showdown, but I think our D could stop their offense before they stopped ours.

Desert Fox

January 5th, 2013
1:55 am

FL replaces GA w/the moniker which team will show up game day. They beat TA&M, SC, Clem and LSU and lost to Louisville.

JJ and Tree made the smart decision to enter the draft. They’re ready for the pro’s albeit they probably need to get stronger if they expect to win starting spots. Geathers needs another year otherwise he may not make the final cut in the pro’s if he’s drafted which most likely will be in the later rounds. He’s not a dominate run stopper. For his size he’s not very strong and slow. He doesn’t posess lower body strength. That is obvious for a man his size should plow thru the man in front of him. He’s still a work in progress and will be in the pro’s as well. Would like to see how he grades out w/the pro’s.

My gut says AM will leave for the pro’s. Not sure his stock will rise any more w/another year in school. However, w/most of the offense returning he might be tempted to stick around his sr. season and if he gets enough support from a yound defense could return to the big house. For sure, GA’s a better team with him as their QB.

They’re all good dawgs and wish them success in future endeavors.

Desert Fox

January 5th, 2013
1:57 am

Oops. FL didn’t play Clem did they (?). That was SC.

Time and Tide

January 5th, 2013
8:02 am

I’m sure that Dawg Nation will be unanimous in cheering the mighty Crimson Tide on to victory in the big game. Even dawgs admire the strength and skills of a well-coached team of scholar-athletes, especially since they see so little of that in Athens, bless their hearts. :-)

Save that leftover New Year’s champagne to celebrate the Tide’s second straight BCS championship!

Rossville Bulldog

January 5th, 2013
8:56 am

Hutson Mason is the quarterback the Dawgs will be better off with. He will also be the one to likely get away.

01HAWK

January 5th, 2013
8:58 am

TECH had some of the ugliest uniforms you will see.

Someone blind led the blind.

Go back to the traditional uniforms.

PaulPaul

January 5th, 2013
9:19 am

Any of you who think we will be better off without Murray are mistaken. Strong arm, quick release and accurate are his traits. That back shoulder throw is a beauty to watch. I watched Landry Jones throw it a couple of times last night and not near Murray on his accuracy. Hutson Mason is a good QB but not near the equal of Murray. Hutson will get playing time next year no matter what Murray does. He should take over the year after.
Some people in Athens close to AM say he is staying.

BullDogMike

January 5th, 2013
9:47 am

The college QB situation this year is very weak. NFL personel stated this already in numerous sports talk shows. If Murray stays another year, he will be passing up the best chance he will ever have to maybe slip into late first round or early second round. I hope he goes myself. I’ve seen about all the pick -sixes I can stand from one player….

Flo- Ri - Duh

January 5th, 2013
10:04 am

It was announced in one publication that UGA has chosen their new DL coach – was this announced in the AJC?

Flo- Ri - Duh

January 5th, 2013
10:07 am

I expect you do want Murray to go NFL ’cause you aren’t a true Dawg fan and are tired of seeing Murray whip up on your boys like they were a rented mule.

just a fan

January 5th, 2013
10:22 am

The QB class for AM senior season is just as weak as is this years QB class I think the real question AM needs to ask himself is does he want all the SEC QB records and does he want a shot at winning a SEC championship and would he like to be 3-1 vs the gaytors.

CLEMS@N TIGERS ARE BACK WITH A VENGENCE!

January 5th, 2013
10:59 am

Clemsons offense will run the dawgs dismal defense silly in Death Valley on August 31. Its gonna get embarrassing…

Norris

January 5th, 2013
11:01 am

Time and Tide, umm, the Dawgs came within 5 seconds of going to this BCS game instead of Bama. I haven’t heard a lot of crowing from Bama fans because they know it! Even your head coach said it was that close. So, don’t be dissing the athletes we have. Just hope your team is ready to beat the Irish (like I want them too!) and that they don’t have the big head like we’ve seen some teams already, namely LSU, and then get whipped. Saban has already sent two players home for missing curfew and the rumor mill is flying now that maybe Bama is thinking they have it wrapped up already!

bubba4dawgs

January 5th, 2013
11:17 am

I hate to see Murray leave and carry a clipboard in the pros. At best, I believe he will wind up like Tebow and could do himself more good in value by staying another year and set some more records, maybe even the Heisman. What an awesome offense the DAWGS would have with his sreturn!!

As for Geathers, he definitely should stay! He’s huge but that isn’t all he needs, he needs to get stronger and develop his skills better for the next level. He may not realize what a huge step the next level will be! He may even be cut after trying out in the pros and that would be bad for him.

Good luck to both, Aaron and Kwame!! DGD’s!!

SimpleDawg

January 5th, 2013
11:19 am

Murray stays….. Geathers goes, never to be heard of again – he needs another year to work on technique and to change his body…..more muscle, less fat.

Dawgs could have an outstanding defense next year if….. everyone stays out of trouble, continues to work towards building unity, hits the weights and conditioning hard, and directs their focus on team success and not on the NFL.

Offense should be dynamic.

Opening game next year will be a doozy….

SimpleDawg

January 5th, 2013
11:37 am

Taylor Martinez was yappin’ so much in the Cap One Bowl, I thought he must’ve been a Gator. He kept yappin’, and finally the Dawgs’ defense got tired of it. They tried to rip his head off from the middle of the 3rd quarter until the game was over.

The tide was turned….

Holy Guacamole

January 5th, 2013
12:35 pm

Looked like Shaun Williams got tired of Taylor Martinez any. I am going to miss that guy. DGD

Holy Guacamole

January 5th, 2013
12:35 pm

Gee

January 5th, 2013
1:47 pm

Ok so you had to throw your 2 cents in.about Techs unis?? Really? UGA has worn the same God.awful grey pants with their jerseys since the 50s. I mean how easy would it be to make a nice looking uni with the colors at hand? Techs unis actually stood out nicely in the bowl game if you ask me. But I guess its still an opinion thing. Just wanted to say dont talk trash when your teams unis are at the bottom when it.comes to style.or.creativity.

SC Dawg

January 5th, 2013
2:20 pm

Can’t wait for the first two games next year. 1/3 of my family are Dawgs another Third are Tiggers and the last third are Chickens. If the D starts playing “Grown-Man” football and the O-Line protects Murray we can win the SEC and BCS. However, Clemson’s O will be hard to stop and SC is in our heads. SO Richt, Bobo, and TG needs to get the team ready off the bat. Plus Sign a Kicker who can kick a FG.

Strat Cat Dawg

January 5th, 2013
2:24 pm

I wonder if AM will take his likely ranking among QBs into consideration? Other than Tony Dungy, I haven’t seen anyone rate AM among the top guys for this year’s draft. Another strong year at UGA couldn’t hurt his chances of going early. And having those records makes a difference in a guy’s post-football career, NFL or not.

randawg

January 5th, 2013
3:12 pm

Great column, Bill, as always.

It’s difficult to say how good we will look against Clemson and South Carolina until we know how the defense is going to shape up. No doubt Richt and Bobo are already working on what to do against Clowney. If Murray and Geathers stay, it will mean a great deal especially in the early season.

zbulldawg

January 5th, 2013
3:26 pm

Get on board Murray’s not leaving. I’m not sure about Geathers yet. But the word is he will stay also because there’s alot of DL in this draft. Murray has a chance to break all kind of records next year & to win the big trophy. LET THE BIG DAWG EAT

Thank God for Reggie Ball

January 5th, 2013
5:36 pm

Louisville 33 Florida 23

ha………..haha…ha…………hahaha…………..hahahahahahahahahahaha

aaaahhhhhh that’s classic….hahaha……

Thank God for Reggie Ball

January 5th, 2013
5:39 pm

@Strat Cat Dawg

Colin Cowherd gave him pretty high remarks, even going as far as saying he considered Murray the best QB coming out this year, however also admitted he only watched 3-4 Georgia games this year and maybe 1-2 last year.

80% of the media folks seem to favor him staying as well as roughly 95% of Georgia fans

Dawgs Rule

January 5th, 2013
8:44 pm

UGA’s uniforms are consistently praised for being traditional, classy and timeless. Look it up.

Nebraska didn’t “finish” because UGA didn’t let them finish. Martinez is typical California trash. Remember Casey Clausen at UT and all his trash talk?

NCDawg

January 5th, 2013
10:14 pm

Geathers could stand another year to raise his stock. Murray will noodle it out and my guess is he will take a look at the QB class next year and figure this is his best chance. The only thing that would make him come back is if the NFL guys tell him that he needs to prove he can win the big game. Then he would come back to try to get a signature win. I don’t see his stock rising that much unless Bobo takes the chains off and lets him run to show off his legs. The NFL is really desiring mobile QB’s now. If he can make plays with his feet and his arm they might overlook his non prototype size.

TossSweep

January 5th, 2013
10:23 pm

I don’t think Taylor Martinez remembered the second half when they couldn’t score after the initial touchdown in the third quarter. Mr Shawn Williams gave him sizeable hit near the end of the game. SW got the last laugh after their jawing the entire game.

NCDawg

January 5th, 2013
10:25 pm

Martinez is a punk. He spent all game jawing with Shawn Williams and he ended up eating those words big time. I bet he spent hours in the traing room recovering from the beating he took. I lost all respect I might have had for him. They looked hapless after the middle of the 3rd quarter. Martinez’s interceptions pretty much sealed his team’s fate. It was a shootout and then they folded. Bo Pelini needs to toughen up his guys… they wilted in the fourth quarter.

NCDawg

January 5th, 2013
10:26 pm

traing = training…ugh

DawgVoiceofReason

January 5th, 2013
10:31 pm

Gee, you’re dumb. Of course u don’t like our “unis” because u r tired of seeing them humiliate your team.

Reddawger

January 5th, 2013
11:59 pm

Murray’s father has cancer. That’s a big deal. And from what everyone says, his family is close-knit.

If they’re middle class like most families are, I don’t see how Murray can delay the financials for his family, especially if it could save his Dad’s life or accelerate his father’s recovery. Kind of depends on the financial and physical health of his dad.

If they’re millionaires or something, then Murray has options to consider.

Should he still go, because NFL Super Bowl winning head coach Tony Dungy said if he was drafting Murray would be his first pick

Is the risk of injury in the SEC too high?

Should he stay and try to finish his master’s degree, win the SEC and BCS Championships and Heisman?

I’m sure Aaron Murray will make a solid decision, and do what’s best for him and his family.

MattMD

January 6th, 2013
1:56 am

Bill,

You wear a ball-cap in your picture and you want to talk about what constitutes “high school”?

old junkyard DAWG

January 6th, 2013
7:34 am

Enter your comments here

Columbus Dawg

January 6th, 2013
11:26 am

Well, it looks like the dictated to AJC can’t seem to get an article up on the joke DL coach hire that UGA has made. This group of idiots running things in Athens is the biggest joke administration/coaching staff I have ever seen at a supposed top tier SEC program. Did these morons ask themselves WHY Mullens demoted this clown. Kentucky? Joker Phillips, REALLY? It is obvious that the powers that be in Athens have asked the AJC to hold off so they can get some garbage written out to blow up the public’s …

This is NOT a Will Friend hire. Friend played at Bama. This clown played at one of THE most annually overrated programs in the nation, and was DEMOTED at Missy State? Eleventh run D, thirteenth in QB sacks. Joke. Mark Richt will not be at UGA after 2013. McGarity will NOT lose his job to save Richt’s.

dawg07

January 6th, 2013
1:32 pm

Pulling for MURRAY to return and win the SEC.

Cuz

January 6th, 2013
3:01 pm

Just feel in my gut that Murray is gone. Or it could be the jalepenos on the nachos I ate.

Kwame, half full, half empty.

Orlando Dawg

January 6th, 2013
3:59 pm

Congratulations GT, kicked USC to the curb…Go Bama, but the redneck fans (some) need to remember how Bama can be the embarrassment of college football…strippergate, treegate…Utah and La. Monroe did kick your arse, recently, in bowl games, remember….

Orlando Dawg

January 6th, 2013
4:04 pm

Oh, and I was thinking the exact same thin on mettenberger, how dumb to pass three plays to run the clock out at the end of the game…duh?

Cullowheedawg

January 6th, 2013
5:22 pm

I saw some great power running in the Stanford game. We have not been able to just power our way to put games away. No I do not want to go back to 3 yards etc but it iOS nice when you have the confidence to “run out the game or get a first down. Cullowheedawg

dawg fan

January 7th, 2013
12:27 pm

if hutson mason is so good, why did he redshirt this year and not start. everyone wants to see mason play over murray, but if he were better, he would be on the field.

why not let boo malcombe play over gurley and marshall too. he is supposed to be pretty good. I hate it for him that he came in a distant 3rd on the depth chart but like bobo said. you want to start, practice better and spend more time in film room.

same goes for mason. if you are not the best you dont play.

Zoomie

January 7th, 2013
12:53 pm

However, the good news is, Taylor Martinez just played in the biggest game he’ll ever be a part of and squandered his 15 minutes of fame by showing what a classless loser he is. He’ll never be heard from again . . . thankfully.

Joey

January 7th, 2013
4:42 pm

Cuz, it WASthe jalepenos! Hope that turned out okay!

Hope also your family had a good holiday season.

GB's Hamburgers

January 7th, 2013
6:23 pm

It would, in my opinion, have been better for UGA if Murray had moved on. Why would any high school quarterback sign on when they aren’t going to get a shot at playing. If Georgia allowed the backups to get some playing time that would be different. Backups at UGA rarely play in meaingful way. Even when we’re way ahead, they just run 3 straight into the line, fall down and punt. Mason didn’t play this year is not going to play next year. The kid from Camden county is not going to play. Murray could have relieved this log jam of talent. Texas A&M has a great quarterback because their competition is open and a guy from back in the pack ended up with the job. At UGA players seem to get anointed and that ends it. It’s just my opinion.

Arby

January 7th, 2013
11:38 pm

I don’t know how Saban gets so much depth at D-line and O-line. He gets players that other teams can’t buy. He recruits players and makes them change their minds even though they swear another team is their childhood favorite. Guess Alabama pays their coach well. Heck other schools can’t pay that much because women’s athletic coaches would complain and sue their school. Amazing !