SEC pride: Should Georgia fans pull for Alabama in the BCS?

sec-pinwheel-logojpg-2deded0ba172b404On this week’s “Bulldog Hotline” call-in show, an interesting discussion came up about whether Georgia fans should be playing the SEC pride card when it comes to the upcoming BCS national championship game.

Program host Neil “Hondo” Williamson was on the SEC bandwagon, noting he’s pulling for Bama to demolish the Irish and win a seventh straight BCS title for the Southeastern Conference.

However, a caller to the show pointed out that while Georgia doesn’t recruit against Notre Dame, it does go up against the Crimson Tide for quite a few players, especially the top-rated ones from our own region.

Another national championship for Alabama certainly won’t help with that. That crystal football trophy and those national championship rings tend to make a big impression on high school kids trying to decide where they want to play.

Indeed, this SEC pride thing can be tricky. A couple of years ago a lot of Georgia fans pulled against Auburn in the BCS game, not just because we didn’t want the Tigers to get a recruiting advantage, but because the manner in which they’d won the SEC, with their rent-a-QB and dirty play, left a lot of bad feelings.

But when it comes to Alabama, I’m not sure another national title is really going to make that much difference in terms of recruiting. This would be the Tide’s third BCS championship in the past four years so it’s not like they don’t already have that advantage.

Plus, Mark Richt’s Bulldogs impressed a lot of people nationally with their down-to-the-wire effort against the Tide in the SEC Championship, the most-watched college football game of the season, and if you’ve got to lose a game like that, it goes down a bit better to have done so to the eventual national champ.

And then there’s all the whining the Big 10 and PAC 12 folks have done about the SEC’s dominance. That’s music to the ears of many Southern football fans.

Of course, there’s another factor that has to figure into this: Bama’s BCS opponent.

Some Auburn fans will go to any extreme to oppose the Crimson Tide.

Some Auburn fans will go to any extreme to oppose the Crimson Tide.

It’s somewhat understandable that Auburn folks would be pulling for Notre Dame since they hate the Tide every moment of their existence (though I can’t believe AU fans actually would wear one of those WarIrish shirts someone is selling).

But it’s hard to see any true follower of the Red and Black ever pulling for the Fighting Irish, no matter who their opponent is or what the recruiting ramifications are. I even rooted for Steve Spurrier’s Gators when they played Notre Dame in a bowl back in the early ’90s!

What about you? Are you hoping Alabama brings the SEC another national title or would you like to see Nick Saban vanquished by destiny’s darlings, as ESPN touts them?

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339 comments Add your comment

UGANICK

December 5th, 2012
10:44 am

I have never been on the “root for the SEC in the Bowls” bandwagon. And I wouldn’t want FLA, BAMA, AU, or any SEC fans cheering for us. It’s fake and who cares that the SEC wins. Everyone already knows we are the best conference. I want my team to win and I especially don’t want our rivals to win and all SEC teams are our rivals.

DCJohn

December 5th, 2012
10:46 am

ugasara13

December 5th, 2012
10:49 am

I normally pull for other SEC teams, but just can’t pull for Bama after that game (and hit on Murray). GO IRISH!

just a fan

December 5th, 2012
10:51 am

I am pulling for bama I can not ever pull for the Irish. The Irish are the most over rated football team since the start of the 2000 football season only winning one bowl game and losing 7 in a row.

GDawg

December 5th, 2012
10:53 am

Yes I will pull for Bama as a life long UGA fan. There are only 3 conferences in football AFC, NFC and the SEC. So in closing go Bummer.

sogadog

December 5th, 2012
10:58 am

Yes as a Dawg fan I will be pulling 100% for Bama to pound Notre Dame. Roll Tide.

I would also keep quiet about the Bama player who took the cheap shot on Murray so he can play against Notre Dame. His payback will come on the field one day anyway.

beanster

December 5th, 2012
11:07 am

Generally you pull for the team you lost to unless you are in a division race. It sounds a lot better to say you lost to the eventual champion rather than the runner up.

As far as recruiting, I would be inclined to think this past weekend’s performance narrowed the gap in terms of recruits’ perception of the two programs. Having 4 first round draft picks isn’t going to hurt either.

Flat Tire On Hwy 441 in Athens

December 5th, 2012
11:09 am

Beating only 1 top 20 team in 4 years

1-11 vs the top 10

That hurts recruiting

hornblowermg

December 5th, 2012
11:12 am

i normally want the sec teams to win, but i think that alabama is destined to embarass the conference because they won’t be able to run the ball on nd like they did against us unless they are allowed to “hold” like the refs allowed against us. a true champion should be able to win without cheating, and most times a champion will have to defeat the officials along with the other team. i have witnessed most of the other sec teams pull against Georgia, tnn. and fla. in particular, so i really don’t feel much loyalty to conference schools anymore.

FallDawg

December 5th, 2012
11:13 am

Roll Tide! The only thing worst than a Tide fan crowing is an ND fan.

Dave B

December 5th, 2012
11:15 am

I’m pulling for the Irish, but that is only because my dad went to school there. UGA became my team after started classes in Athens, and I’ve been a as big a Georgia fan as there is for a long time now (graduated in ‘06). But I did grow up cheering on Notre Dame, and obviously my dad still follows them closely, so I do keep tabs on what is going on in South Bend.

If Bama was playing any other school, I would be hoping they win. But in this case, GO IRISH!

piermontdawgny

December 5th, 2012
11:15 am

let me spike the ball and think about it!

Jaw Jaw idiot

December 5th, 2012
11:19 am

Yes, I will pull for the most over rated team in all of sports. The 1 with the 10 year 1 billion dollar T V contract, that should have lost to Standford on the bad T D call on 4th down, that played 3 overtimes against a 4-5 unranked Pittsburg and 3 other close games against nobody teams. Surely I won’t pull for the team that put up 350 yards rushing (a SEC Title game record), put a hit on a QB turned defender after the pick that still makes my heart pump crimson, and showed the world that 11 NFL worthy (what ever…HA) defenders, can’t stop BAMA when they tell them, hey, we are gonna run the ball the rest of the game, just try and stop us, with your 11 point advantage at home. So, yes I’m an idiot and I will pull for the Irish

Marvin

December 5th, 2012
11:19 am

Very interesting question. I rooted against Auburn and Florida when they played for the national championship but that is based on deep seated and long standing HATE for both teams. For whatever reason, most Dog fans don’t seem to feel the hate for Bama that they do for other schools and I think it goes back to gredging respect for the program back in the Bear Bryant days. I never really hated S. Carolina before Spurrier – had to admire thier fans for supporting what use to be a mediocre-at-best program which has now become an unquestionably mediocre program. Agree with you that the effecto on recruiting here is there even if Bam doesn’t win so I’m pulling for them. As much as people hate the Irish, didn’t they give us a National Championship trophy back in 81 when there was no such official trophy? Hard to hate that kind of sportsmanship.

TN Dawg

December 5th, 2012
11:23 am

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SSIgator

December 5th, 2012
11:24 am

“That crystal football trophy and those national championship rings tend to make a big impression on high school kids trying to decide where they want to play.”
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Well, I guess UGA is SOL then.

Alphare

December 5th, 2012
11:25 am

Irish has 2 kinds of fans, ones are rooting for them, the others want to see how bad they can lose.

I will see how bad they can lose, again.

Bama James

December 5th, 2012
11:26 am

Inside every UGA fan, there is a Bama fan trying to get out.

Russell Hall

December 5th, 2012
11:27 am

SEC all the way. Notre Dame needs a good whipping to keep them in their place. No hard feelings toward Alabama. It was a hard fought game, and they were ahead when time ran out.

SSIgator

December 5th, 2012
11:28 am

“if you’ve got to lose a game like that, it goes down a bit better to have done so to the eventual national champ”
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How many more ways can the UGA scribes justify losing in a feel good manner?

Big Enos Burdette

December 5th, 2012
11:28 am

I’m a Dawg fan but I hope the Tide rips ND a new anal cavity.

Son of Bear

December 5th, 2012
11:29 am

Sooner or Latter, EVERY fan in the SEC is going to eventually wind up cheering for Alabama at some point.

Everbody LOVES a Winner!

And Nobody wins more than Bama!

ROLE, TIDE !!!

Flat Tire On Hwy 441 in Athens

December 5th, 2012
11:30 am

Bama James

Nah your wrong

Most UGA fans want 8-10 win seasons beating Georgia Tech High School and having Moral victories in big games

Son of Bear

December 5th, 2012
11:32 am

It isn’t a coincidence that Alabama is at the very top of that SEC logo.

And it isn’t a coincidence that SEC Headquarters is just a short drive from Bryant-Denny Stadium.

# 1 in every BCS and Non-BCS Rating !

ROLE, TIDE !!!

swimdawg68

December 5th, 2012
11:34 am

I will pull for Alabama against ND. I’m proud of the record the SEC has in the National Championship Game.

As a loyal Bulldog their is only one team in the SEC that I will never pull for and that is Florida. If Florida was playing a game against the Taliban, I would pull for the Taliban. Already, after only 2 years at Florida, Muschamp has begun the tradition started by Spurrier of having a big mouth. Glad to say he has yet to beat us.

Pitbull

December 5th, 2012
11:35 am

I normally pull for other SEC team in their non conference games. but the Tide fans have become so obnoxious due to their recent success that I think it is time for them to be taken down a notch.

I am pulling for the Irish and hope they smother Bama the way Utah did.

Truth

December 5th, 2012
11:38 am

UGA fans should all take a long walk off of a short pier

Son of Bear

December 5th, 2012
11:38 am

Coach Saban is going to send Notre Dame to where Coach Paterno is and his good buddy Jerry is going.

Why didn’t Georgia wear their black jerseys for the SEC Championship Game against Coach Saban?
It might have helped them. (They worked so well last time.) L O L !

Is Georgia saving those for a special occasion, like when they play in the Burger King Chico’s Bail Bonds Bowl later this month?

Are they saving those black shirts for UGA’s now-annual funeral after Bama wins the SEC?

ROLE, TIDE !!!

Bo

December 5th, 2012
11:38 am

Bear Poop-We have some paper we can send you we didn’t use this year. You need to wipe some of that BS you are talking off!!!!!! Wipe the tide!!!!!!

Common Sense

December 5th, 2012
11:38 am

Alabama losing to ND only makes Georgia look worse.

Whining about the Refs doesn’t really help our case either. The Dawgs get their own fair share of dirty hits in, and some of them don’t get called. Funny how some fans have selective outrage regarding dirty hits. There is no crying in football.

Mike from the Coast

December 5th, 2012
11:40 am

Absolutely pulling for the Crimson Tide. Tired of national pundits slobbering all over the Irish. Go SEC. Not only that but it will enhance our final standings in the polls and I think that helps in the recruiting process.

SSIgator

December 5th, 2012
11:41 am

“Should Georgia fans pull for Alabama in the BCS?”
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Why don’t you ask the UGA spokesman Barcardi “Speedbump” Rumboy – if he has finally picked himself up off of the field?

TBone

December 5th, 2012
11:45 am

Anyway that they both could lose???

Go Irish!

December 5th, 2012
11:46 am

For all those who think Bama will just run right over ND, then you’ll be in for a treat. ND has best Defense in the nation regardless of the NFL talent that is boasted about on the SEC defenses and they are the only undefeated team in the top 10. And for those who think ND didn’t play anybody, well let’s just look at who Bama & UGA played. Two of the easiest schedules in the nation regardless of conference. GOOO Irish!

Bama Fan#2

December 5th, 2012
11:46 am

I pulled for Oregon against the cow college 2 years ago!! ROLL DUCKS!!
Whether or not dawg fans pull for against the crimson tide it does matter
one bit to me or any other ALABAMA FAN!! #15 ON THE WAY!!

dean

December 5th, 2012
11:47 am

Screw it. I hope AL steamrolls ND.

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

Son of Bear

December 5th, 2012
11:47 am

Only a bunch of sore-loser haters like those drunks over at Clark County Correctional & State University at Athens would rather have an arrogant, self-entitled cesspool like Notre Dame (a now semi-ACC school) win the BCS National Championship over THE Flagship Football Program School of the entire SEC.

If USA was playing a winner-take-all football game against Communist China (also wearers of “Bulldog Red”), with the winner getting the entire United States land mass, you know you would want Coach Saban and The University of Alabama Crimson Tide to represent our country in football and save America over Notre Dame or UGA.

If UGA played for our nation, everybody would need to start getting used to eating Panda Express for every meal.

Gimme some Bama BBQ instead!

ROLE, TIDE !!!!

Timbo

December 5th, 2012
11:48 am

I hate loud mouthed chest beating fans. Absolutely hate it. As a Bama fan I do not consider the blow hards that come on here and gloat to be any “brother” of mine. The only thing we have in common is the support of the team on the field. I would suggest to try and not let the interweb warriors influence one’s total outlook on an entire fan base. It’s not even remotely close to being accurate. For the record, the Dawgs would have had my full support if Bama would have lost. Some of my best life long friends are Dawg fans and although I was thrilled with the win, I really felt their disappointment after the bitter loss. I got no personal joy from their disappointment. I know how important the game was to Dawg fans and I understand why.

Roll Tide!
Go Dawgs!

Ghost of Sinkwich

December 5th, 2012
11:49 am

I never have really like Bama, but I have gained a lot of respect, for Saban.
That being said my ancestors are from Ireland, and I have always loved the Irish; except when Lou Holtz was their coach.
I will be pulling for them against Bama. And the recruiting head to head also plays apart, for me.

Bruce

December 5th, 2012
11:50 am

I have never bought in to the idea of pulling for one of my Conference opponents to win any Championship…if you like them then support them….other teams winning my help the TV Contract but will not help your program get better and might get you fired if your program does not win the Big one….

Desert Fox

December 5th, 2012
11:51 am

Don’t believe a loss by either team is going to help GA in the final rankings even if GA beats NB. AL fans on these blogs have defended the hit on AM and that doesn’t sit well w/most of us. Never liked ND and have pulled for the SEC in most games especially the NC. Tough choice but I guess in the end you side w/those in your neighborhood over outsiders. However, would like to see Man-sized Tao put a smack on some AL players, just to remind them the door swings both ways.

Son of Bear

December 5th, 2012
11:51 am

What is the one and only thing that can get all the Auburn graduates and fans in my office to go from yelling “War Eagle!” to “ROLE, TIDE !!!” ?

A BCS Championship between Alabama and Notre Dame, that’s what!

ROLE, TIDE !!!!

Kyle

December 5th, 2012
11:56 am

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nuff said!

Go Irish!

December 5th, 2012
11:56 am

The national pundits have been slobbering over the SEC for the past decade. This is the first year that ND has been in the NC picture. Hell the only reason Ala got in the NC game last year was because of national pundits. lost at home, didn’t play for SEC championship and still got to go to the NC. Talk about national pundits slobbering all over bama.

David

December 5th, 2012
11:57 am

IRISH ALL THE WAY………GOOO DAWGS!

UGA Fan Evolution

December 5th, 2012
11:57 am

Bruce,
Cheering for a conference is what UGA fans and other underachieving programs have to resort to, because their team cannot stand on its own merits. This is a behavior they have now handed down through generations out of necessity, thus there has been an evolution that has adapted to long term and seemingly permanent mediocrity.

Son of Bear

December 5th, 2012
11:57 am

Unlike Mark Richt, Coach Saban didn’t get mad, pout and call any reporters “Chicken[Manure]” after the SEC Title Game.

Unlike Mark Richt, Coach Saban wins & loses with class. His players don’t all go to prison like Richt’s, either.

Of course, Mark Richt has much more experience with LOSING, though.

ROLE, TIDE !!!

Common Sense

December 5th, 2012
11:59 am

One thing’s for certain: Nobody will ever be pulling for an ACC team to win the BCSCG. ;)

Rick James

December 5th, 2012
12:01 pm

I always pull for the SEC..

CoachDawg 2000

December 5th, 2012
12:03 pm

The Irish are perpetually over-rated but there is no lower-class fan base than the Bammers. So Go Irish!