Fan talk: Triple option, Gurshall’s workload, Murray returning for another year, and bowl scenarios
Quarterback Jerick McKinnon leads Georgia Southern's productive rushing attack. (Associated Press)
It won’t be fun for the Georgia players fending off those cut-blocks and it probably won’t be as pretty as many in the Bulldog Nation would like, but Mark Richt’s Bulldogs should emerge from their SEC Cupcake Weekend match against Georgia Southern with a 10th victory and fully up to speed on handling the triple-option offense that they’ll see again next week.
The Eagles bring the Football Championship Subdivision’s leading rushing attack to Athens, averaging 401.2 yards per game on the ground. Southern’s rushing attack is led by quarterback Jerick McKinnon, a former Sprayberry High School star who was the Southern Conference offensive player of the week after beating Howard by running for a career-high 198 yards and three touchdowns. He also threw for two more touchdowns, though he only passed the ball four times in the game. That put McKinnon over 1,000 yards rushing.
So the Eagles are likely to control the ball for a while Between the Hedges and will rack up some yards. Probably a few points, too. They ran for 302 yards and scored 21 points last year against Alabama’s top-rated rushing defense.
But if Todd Grantham’s defense is patient, sticks to its assignments and can avoid key injuries, the Bulldogs’ advantage in terms of size and speed should allow them to keep the Eagles under control. Triple-option offenses also are prone to put the ball on the ground, and GSU has had some trouble with that this season.
On the other side of the line of scrimmage, Aaron Murray, Gurshall, Tavarres King and company should prove too much for an outmanned Southern defense.
It might take the Dawgs a while to pull away — that was the case with Bama last year — but at least they’ll have had a meaningful tune-up for the Governor’s Cup match with the Yellow Jackets.
Now, let’s check some of this week’s Junkyard Mail. …
Should Keith Marshall be getting more carries? (Associated Press)
Brett Miolen writes: [Todd] Gurley and [Keith] Marshall have been great this season and both have shown they can score at anytime from anywhere. Gurley gets the bulk of the work but Marshall has played great despite only getting around 6-10 carries a game. With his ability, do you see any way he can get more involved or get more touches?
While I’m sure he wouldn’t mind a few more carries, Marshall noted this week that thanks to the reduced load this season his body isn’t taking the beating it did in high school, and both he and Gurley are staying fresh. The slightly larger Gurley actually is built more for the heavy load of being an SEC primary back, and it’s hard to argue in favor of taking the ball out of his hands any more, what with him approaching becoming only the second UGA true freshman to break the 1,000-yard mark. Marshall is the more likely of the two to break a really long run of 50-plus yards, as he’s tied for second place nationally in that category with four. Of course, thanks to the Bulldogs’ balanced offense and potent passing attack, neither back is close to getting worn down. Gurley had 11 carries against Auburn and Marshall had eight. And Boo Malcome also usually gets in the mix late in games. “It’s kept them from getting too many carries where a true freshman might really get beat down,” Richt said this week. Bottom line: Gurley and Marshall make a pretty effective tandem with the current splitting of the load.
Aaron Murray is considered likely to return for his senior season at UGA. (Associated Press)
Blake Doster writes: Bill, I just read that Aaron Murray is coming back next year. How does that effect Hutson Mason next year? I thought he redshirted this year to be the starter next year. Please help me understand.
In a related question, Scott Vaughan writes: 1. Aaron Murray — coming back for his last year? 2. If not Aaron, who? I was surprised when they ran out Parker Welch against Auburn, first, rather than [Christian] LeMay. Reading too much into it? Great blog site. Thanks for representing the fan base.
Thanks, Scott. To answer Blake first, Murray has not said he’s definitely coming back to UGA for his senior year, but most observers figure he will since he’ll get to polish his game, enhance his NFL prospects and probably break Danny Wuerffel’s career SEC record for touchdown passes. Murray currently is in fifth place with 83, and the record is 114. By the end of this season, Murray stands a good chance of passing Tim Tebow, Chris Leak and Peyton Manning for second place. As for Mason, the reason he’s taking a redshirt this season is to give him a year of separation from Murray. That way, even if Murray returns for his senior season, Mason could have a year as Georgia’s starter after that. As for Welch playing ahead of LeMay, Georgia’s coaching staff has indicated that’s because he has exhibited a firmer grasp of the offensive playbook than LeMay.
James Ernest Nobles writes: Bill, no one has addressed the possibility of Auburn beating Alabama in the Iron Bowl and knocking them out of the SEC championship game. While the odds are against this happening, there is always the possibility. In that case wouldn’t Texas A&M go to Atlanta and play Georgia for the SEC championship?
If you saw Auburn play against the Dogs, you know the odds of them beating Bama are extremely long. But stranger things have happened in rivalry games, so let’s run with that scenario for a moment. If Alabama were to lose to Auburn and Texas A&M and LSU both were to win out, the SEC West would be a three-way tie. If that happened, LSU would play in the SEC Championship game because the Tigers and Aggies would have 5-1 divisional records, while the Tide would have a 4-2 SEC West record and LSU beat the Aggies head-to-head, giving them the ultimate tie-breaker.
Reagan Mabry writes: Bill, there is a lot of football to be played yet before the BCS championship game is determined and anything can happen in the next three weeks. My question is this, has Mark Richt learned anything from the 2002, 2005 and 2007 seasons that style points do actually count? I think he needs to have the offense score as many points as possible the next two weeks and not let up. Then UGA could close up a little in the BCS points to be in position as the best one loss team if any team loses. I know this is not Mark Richt’s style but could end up hurting UGA again by just doing enough to win. I think Mark Richt should have been on ESPN and every media outlet possible in 02, 05 and 07 doing PR work stating UGA’s claim to be in the NC game. Saban did his PR work right last year and just hope Mark Richt has learned something if he gets his team in that position again.
If you’re expecting Richt to suddenly morph into one of those coaches who keeps throwing touchdown passes deep into the fourth quarter to run up the score, it’s not likely to happen. But your point about coaches who play the PR game to sell their team’s position is well taken. If Georgia does win out and beat Alabama in the SEC Championship game, a spot in the BCS national title game still would not be assured, even if two of the three undefeated teams ahead of the Dogs were to suffer a loss. The only thing that would be guaranteed for Georgia would be a spot in the BCS. So some politicking by Richt along the lines of Nick Saban and Les Miles definitely would seem in order. On the other hand, if Georgia loses to Bama, it’s highly unlikely the Dogs would get the SEC’s second spot in the BCS no matter what Richt did. And while most predictions are that the Dogs would wind up in either the Capitol One or Outback in that case, some bowl observers think that if they’re the SEC championship game loser they could fall as far as Atlanta’s Chick-fil-A Bowl, however unfair that might seem. It all has to do with bowl committee preferences for home-state teams, higher rankings and traveling fan bases. On the brighter side, both of ESPN’s bowl prognosticators, Mark Schlabach and Brad Edwards, see Georgia beating Alabama in the SEC game and then meeting Clemson in the Sugar Bowl.
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137 comments Add your comment
Spivedoggy Dog
November 16th, 2012
10:10 am
good article!
Spivedoggy Dog
November 16th, 2012
10:10 am
first?
zzggyy
November 16th, 2012
10:18 am
The odds are long, but winning out over the next 4 games would cap a terrific season whether the ‘Dawgs make it to the NC game or not.
Rambling Wreck 82
November 16th, 2012
10:19 am
First
Contradiction
November 16th, 2012
10:33 am
If “it probably won’t be as pretty as many in the Bulldog Nation would like” how is that also a “cupcake?”
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
10:42 am
I think that meant, we have a a few too many whinny fans.
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
10:45 am
I would hope to play ND in the Sugar especially since we have to play Clampit-and-son the next 2 yrs
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
10:45 am
And we have way to many kool-aid drinking fans too River Boat Captain
ARdawg
November 16th, 2012
10:46 am
Bill
The mantra for Georgia and the cure of all ills is beat Bama in Atlanta. All of the other scenarios mean nothing until that is done. Lose to Bama in the Dome and it will be Outback city again.
We already know about losing the SECCG. We need to remember what winning that game was about
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
10:50 am
As well as too many immature people who have access to computers.
Skokie Dog
November 16th, 2012
10:50 am
It won’t surprise me if Murray returns for his fifth year next fall. It’s his only chance of playing anywhere, and the coaching staff will be content to let him do this, while giving the backups no meaningful opportunity to play. It’s a shame that Murray was red-shirted as a freshman.
Dan Lott
November 16th, 2012
10:51 am
Enjoy your articles very much. Part of being a fan is making predictions, however outlandish. It is very rare for more than one team to go undefeated in a season. What if all three of the no-loss teams lose and we beat Ala? Would we play the winner of the FSU/Fla game for the NC? Would a one-loss Oregon team with their tough schedule get the call. Fun to speculate this time of year.
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
10:52 am
No surprise that you raised your hand when whining was mentioned.
Vance Duly
November 16th, 2012
10:55 am
“Non-pretty” cupcake games for Georgia happen fairly often (the defense plays a bit flat, Coach Bobo gets dull with the play-calling, and Coach Richt pulls the plug on the offense in the 3rd quarter). Our back-up offensive line seems almost useless for the running game, and they seldom let the back-up QB throw more than 1-2 passes per game. So, we may score 35-40 when we could have scored 50-60, and GSU should score 2-3 TDs unless they fumble a few times. So, it’s not really a contradiction…… GO DAWGS – score 50!!!
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
10:59 am
I think that “the coaches would be content to let Murray return (for his RS senior, record setting, award winning, 5th year) is going to be the understatement of the day.
ARdawg
November 16th, 2012
11:03 am
Style points are as productive as ti_ts on a bull. The human voters don’t vote for those. Teams that dominate without a 40-50 point margin are just as effective, IMHO
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
11:04 am
also no surprise that you call out those whiney fans who dont fall in to your gang of kool-aid drinkers
I mean you do it every single time your on here when someone brings up an issue they see with the program or a play call etc you are quick to jump on that person and try to make them think they dont have a clue as to whats going
yet we are all still waiting for you to post some examples; since you are the Yoda of UGA football but you never do; its just the same ole quick mouth garbage of “well if you dont like it find another team” or “you dont know what your talking about blah blah blah
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
11:04 am
And just curious, why is it a shame that he was Red shirted? we are trading Murray’s True freshman year, in which he was injured and unable to play till very late in that year, at best……………..for his RS senior year next year, in which he is going to be at his best of his career? . That seems like a no -brainer.
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
11:07 am
What can I say. I find whiners to be annoying little people.
Dawg_Mike
November 16th, 2012
11:17 am
The only game that matters is the next one, which is tomorrow against GA Southern.
bill arp
November 16th, 2012
11:18 am
I said the other day, it seems like Marshall would be a good option at KO returner. He’s got the speed/moves similar to that of a R Bush. Just a thought.
I see Murray coming back for several reasons.
BCSCG-Oregon vs N Dame
Sugar-UGA vs K-State
Orange-Clemson vs Louisville
Fiesta-Oklahoma vs Alabama
Rose-a poor Pac 12 team vs a poor Big 10 team
joe jenkins
November 16th, 2012
11:22 am
Why do some of yall fans pull for GSU…..I’m a true georgia bulldog through and through…i could care less about gsu….ihope we stomp them in the ground, some of the gsu fans are running their mouth…they make me LOL………I dont think we beat bama…richt just cant beat saban
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
11:24 am
same here; I find kool-aid drinkers simple minded, with no thought process, who cannot see the forest for the trees
No worries though I have a great book called ENERGY VAMPIRES Im leaving for you at the book store under the name River Boat Captain, just say your name and they will hand it to you; Ive heard its a great read and a NY Times Best Seller
Skokie Dog
November 16th, 2012
11:31 am
My point about it being a shame that Murray will likely be back for his fifth year in 2013 is that he has taken this team as far as he can. I’d prefer to see someone else who also has talent given a chance to see what he’s capable of doing.
And Patched Tire, you are correct that Altamaha enjoys trying to belittle those of us who see room for improvement (even Alabama can improve its game with some more work), and I don’t feel clueless at all, since I have been watching the ‘Dogs for the past forty years. This year’s team is a good one. And it still has room to improve.
And Altamaha, I’ll be looking to see which awards Murray wins in 2013. He has talent, but so do the backup QB’s. I’d rather see one or more of them playing next year than to see Murray out there again.
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
11:34 am
Such a fine display of thoughtful processing right there, no doubt.
SimpleDawg
November 16th, 2012
11:38 am
Too bad for Hut, but Murray is bound to return……his NFL opportunities will be slim. Mason, on the other hand, could still have a shot at the NFL after only having played one year…..provided he performs very well when he plays. Ex: Cassel in KC – he never even played at SoCal.
The odds of Awbarn beating Bama this year……infinitesimally small. I don’t think Bama and Saban have gotten the RED out of their arse over the 28 – 27 comeback win 2 years ago. Look for a humiliation where possible in this game…. Elephants never forget.
The Dawgs have a chance to redeem themselves in the Georgia Dome, but winning out is paramount to gaining any national acclaim after that debacle in Columbia earlier in the season.
If Tech wins the ACC Championship, that will be an indictment of the conference as a weak sister in college football.
Vampire Bill
November 16th, 2012
11:39 am
I like Murray but I just don’t see him in the NFL. His family is well off so no money issues, I’m sure he’ll be back and that’s good. O line should be ok next year? Gates is a JR so he might bolt for the NFL? I am looking forward to seeing Hudson play as well as up and coming Brice Ramsey. LeMay is the odd man out I’m afraid.
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
11:42 am
The deal is Skokie, if you makle a comment, and I disagree and ask you about it, just answer me, Nobody belittled you,.(and that a BS accusation, and you know it) I asked a simple question that is completely fair game in a UGA Football sports blog. Geez. Thin skined much?
And to the point, IMO, Nobody on this roster is better than Murray, or they would be out there. So (assuming as far as he can take us is correct) then the alternative is, less than that.
Personally I think, Ramsey is the QB of the future at UGA, so I 10 times prefer to have Murray leading the team next year, while he RS, rather than have Mason play one year, then have Ramsey take over the next. Multiple Qbs in 3 yrs is never a good idea, IMO.
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
11:43 am
We are still waiting on any thought processes from you; been waiting since 08
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
11:48 am
Multiple QB’s is never a good idea; I agree yet this coaching staff has done on several occasions and will do it after Murray leaves with Mason as they did with Shockley, Terrishinski, and Cox
Greg
November 16th, 2012
11:48 am
Our “reward” for a 12-1 season could be to play Clemson to end this season and again to begin next season? Ugh. Not much to gain by beating a crappy ACC team once, much less twice in a row. What’s their best win this year? Auburn or Duke?
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
11:52 am
Skokie Dog
Altamaha has done it for years; When I first questioned Willie Martinez’s ability as a Defensive Coordinator he attacked me with the ole if you dont like the coaches find another team
Thats what he does and continues to do instead of giving you examples as to why you are wrong in your opinion
I mean he starts the blog complaining about whinny fans; Im glad UGA has whinny fans. If we didnt we would be on the level of Vandy and KY cause their fanbase excepts mediocrity like Altamaha
Skokie Dog
November 16th, 2012
11:53 am
As I recall, the Ray Goff and Matt Robinson QB tandem did rather well at U.Ga. in the mid-1970s, but that was with a different coaching staff, of course.
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
11:54 am
Well considering that every one of those 3 were in completely different situations, Which one is the “mason” case?
Skokie Dog
November 16th, 2012
11:55 am
Those three what?
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
12:00 pm
True, Skokie. That was a completely different situation. Not sure how that relates to this one.
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
12:01 pm
I was asking flat tire, which one (of those 3 ) Mason was. I just wasnt sure what his point was., other than the obligatory dislike of the coach.
creekwolf
November 16th, 2012
12:03 pm
Murray will return not only for an improved shot to make the League, but also to complete his Master’s Degree while on scholarship.
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
12:06 pm
How were they different
Green had left after his senior year with Shockly having 1 yr of eligibility like Mason
Shockly left with Terishinski having a year of eligibility and we played him until it was obvious he wasnt going to get it done
Stafford left leaving Cox and Murray the staff chose Cox out of loyalty (yes I know Murray got hurt during the season but still) Instead of going ahead and giving Ramsey playing time they will play Mason the whole time
In all those cases we had to wait several years for an experienced QB to develop
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
12:15 pm
AltamahaDawg
Well I guess I have to tell you for the 1001 time again I dont dislike Richt I like him as a person and what he represents with his faith and non arrogance that we see today; i just dont like how he runs this program
I mean you have to have a ball player go in front of the media and call the team out to get them motivated to play; seriously you are paid a top 10 salary and you cant do that nor has he done that since he’s been here
Thats why I agree with Bill King on XM that Richt will never win a national title even though he has the talent almost every year to do it with
also Altamaha like Ive said a thousand times; the majority of my posts have been to the yahoo’s who come on this blog year after year running off at the mouth about we are winning the national title garbage yet you are quick to give your two cents when I post no we arent with the way things are run at this program; thats where you’ve missed the point for years
RHall55
November 16th, 2012
12:15 pm
Good problem to have….look @ the Auburn debacle…no cure in sight!!!
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
12:17 pm
Well, Shockley was a a completely different situation, and Ii doubt I really need to explain that to the anyone in here.
JoeT was merely a placeholder till Stafford was ready to take over, which we all knew was a few games at best. Of those situation THIS is exactly what I am talking about avoiding. As I think Mason is probably slightly better than JoeT, and Ramsey is slightly less phisically ready to play as a TF as Stafford was……but basically its the same situation. Which is why I am making the point, thank Goodness we have Murray next year.Its avoidable now, was not then.
Cox is also a great example of why its great to have Murray again. Had Stafford stayed in 2009 , then Cox would not have started for one year. Cox only started because we had a guy be #1 pick. Not because it was planned.
So it sounds to me like you are very happy that Murray is staying too.
Skokie Dog
November 16th, 2012
12:18 pm
My point was this: I don’t agree that multiple QB’s is never a good idea. Obviously, you’re discussing having a new starter in each of three consecutive years. I agree that doing that doesn’t help develop young quarterbacks. I just don’t think that Murray is so good that he deserves virtually all of the playing time. While we’ll never know, my guess is that this team would have won as many games as it has if Murray and Mason had been rotated during games and shared playing time. It’s even possible that Mason might have proven himself more capable under pressure than Murray has. But we’ll never know, thanks to our coaching staff’s choices. I have no doubt that Murray excels at studying video and remembering what’s in the playbook, and Coach Richt seems determined to reward those skills.
aon
November 16th, 2012
12:22 pm
A cupcake game to top-off a cupcake season!
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
12:23 pm
I really coud not care less who the majority of post you make are too. I only care about the one you make directly by name to me. And you consistantly call me chidish names, distored and utterly exagerate (and in some case outright lie) about my position, assign the same qualities to me that you do to (those yahoo you mentioned, even though I am CLEARLY Not one of them) then try to score whatever self inflated ego points you can, by disagreeing with me. Stop doing that, and we’ll have no business.
mark
November 16th, 2012
12:26 pm
I hate the bowl tie ins. Clemson in the Sugar? NOOOObody wants to see that. If Murray returns, and I think he will, he would be our best chance to win. Blast Richt if you want as a HC BUT he is a great QB coach. Go Dawgs.
mark
November 16th, 2012
12:31 pm
Ok experts, can or will USC beat N.Dame? God, forgive me but I truly hate everthing about them.
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
12:31 pm
Yes Im happy Murray is staying
If he doesnt I see us losing at least 5 games instead 3 next year; With Murray I think he might help us to avoid losing that 3rd game
I just hope Richt and Bobo have the better sense to play Mason in as many games as possible we we are leading against a cream puff at the half and if we are blowing away one of our tougher opponents so he will have plenty of gametime under his belt
If all they are going to do is bring him in late in the 4th qtr and have him hand the ball off and take a knee then that will be a tremendous waste and they might as well skipp Mason the following year and put Ramsy in game 1 so the program can move on more quickly and not do like they did with Cox it just puts the program in a big hole
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
12:33 pm
How in the world and why would we want to see 2 ACC teams in BCS bowls
That conference is a joke
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
12:33 pm
Well Skokie, we just aren’t built for multiple Qbs rotating in an out of games, right now. We are a pro style play action team. (which is differernt than your 1970s example). Even if that “might” have worked, I don’t see how that improves the chances of winning.
Now, preparing another QB has value. And last year Hudson Mason played the entire second half of 2 games, and came in a couple more. Thats probabaly as much as any team puts thier back up in. , So its not like they refused to let his get some reps. Right?
This year he is RS, for his own good.
So I’m just not understanding the beef with how Hudson Mason, clearly the second best option, is being used.
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
12:41 pm
Well who would have played besides Cox in 2009?
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
12:43 pm
Mason only threw the ball 30 times last year
I understand thats about what a team does when putting their back up in but he could be used to throw the ball much more in those games he comes in
In all honesty if we happen to lose to Clemson SC and LSU early on in the season this team will probably fold and I much rather see him get more playing time since the season will be wrote off anyway
joe jenkins
November 16th, 2012
12:43 pm
We need jay rome to step up…he is getting better but at 6′6 he should be dominating….I wish jsw would have his break out game this sat…I would like to see him become a reliable wr….if we can develop a forth or fith wr..we will be unstopable…
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
12:45 pm
Mettenburger or Murray; Murray wasnt hurt at the start of the season
Let them both duel it out
Flo-Ri-Duh
November 16th, 2012
12:46 pm
I don’t think Murray will return because he should finish graduate school this year and he will get drafted in the 2nd to 3rd round and get his shot at the NFL. If Murray does return to UGA either Mason or LeMay will transfer – and maybe both. LeMay is a tremendous athlete rated #4 QB before he got in to his problems in high school. He is primarily a passer but can run. The situation with him is that he has not played in a real game, other than a few mop plays at UGA, since his junior year in high school. That’s three years off without playing. Hopefully Richt will give him some playing time in the next two games if UGA gets a decent lead but so far even when UGA has been way ahead he has only been brought in with 10 or less minutes in the game.
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
12:46 pm
joe jenkins
Rome and Lynch would be able to step up more if we had utilized them more
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
12:48 pm
You understand it ..BUT…. But what? It’s what teams do. For several reasons.
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
12:49 pm
Flo-ri-dah
Please stop with Lemay stuff; the guy has to run to the sideline to get the play; and he cant read a defense
You have that or you dont and has shown neither; why do you think the coaches dont let him throw. He’s great for a fake run and dump pass but UGA has to move on to someone who doesnt need that much development
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
12:51 pm
What in my but dont you understand
Games like Vandy Buffalo FL atl Auburn GSU where we lead by a huge margin at the half let him come in and throw the ball at least 20 times instead of 5 or 6 then run the clock out with hand offs
what dont you get about that
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
12:52 pm
Yes he was. Go back and look up the well documented shoulder injury that later came out.
And BTW, Mettenburger failed to complete a forward pass in the G day game before the 2009 season. He was nowwhere close a better option over Cox, (who wasn’t nearly the problem that year, as not having a Run game behind him.)
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
12:56 pm
Well Vandy came down to the last play, we didnt play those others. Are we talking the real games he did play in, or hypothetically if he were playing this year?
He threw the ball as much as any backup in the country does, when trying to run the ball, shorten the game, not run up the score, in back up duty, ever does.
joe jenkins
November 16th, 2012
12:59 pm
Here is a prediction lemay will never be the starting qb…unless we have multiple injuries to qb….mason might start a few games after murray leaves…our future will be ramsey
Skokie Dog
November 16th, 2012
1:01 pm
Patched Tire: If coaches allowed Hutson Mason to play more often, then Murray probably wouldn’t be able to earn all those awards that Altamaha mentioned earlier.
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
1:04 pm
Im talking about the results of this years games Im not an idiot; I know Mason shouldnt have been in last years Vandy game; didnt you see I put GSU in that sentence
im talking about the blowout of Aub and Vandy this year
If those scenarios happen in games next year then put Mason in and let him get a bunch of throws instead of a bunch of handoffs
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 16th, 2012
1:06 pm
Skokie
I hope Murray gets those awards but not at the cost of the program in future seasons; thats all Im saying
EricJ
November 16th, 2012
1:08 pm
Contradiction,
I think Bill’s referring to the games this weekend as a whole:
LSU/OleMiss, Arkansas/MissSt, Tenn/Vandy, and a bunch of non-confs vs (much) lesser opponents (with Mizzou/Syracuse, hard to tell who the weaker team is). At least Ga Southern is (1) a much stronger team than the others, and (2) serves a purpose — prep for GT next week, even though you will give GT some film on how you plan to defense the TO.
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
1:08 pm
The Qb is not the only reserve in the game, when it gets to that point. You’ve got back up linemen. You got back up Rbs. Wrs. To just say we are going to come out and try to fling the ball down the field 20 times is just not realistic. Even if you don’t subscribe to the theory that it’s poor sportmanship, or taking unnessesary risks, it’’s probably not going to be that successful, and the punter is the only one getting better. Why would you not be working on the running game just as much, with the reserves as well. That would seem to me to be just as valuable.
Skokie Dog
November 16th, 2012
1:08 pm
joe jenkins: I think that you probably have the sequence of future starting QB’s at U.Ga. correctly predicted, but don’t be shocked if Murray’s successor is Parker Welch. (I heard that he’s a great talent at studying video, and he calls a mean cadence.)
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
1:14 pm
Just So I am clear, you were proactively complaining that Mason isn’t get enough pass plays in reserve next year, using this year’s schedule as the example?
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
1:17 pm
It seems obvious to me that next year, the frequency and range of Hudson Mason’s playing time will be different than what it was in 2011. Aside from that being 2 yrs prior in his progression, everything will be a completely different situation.
BravesFan79
November 16th, 2012
1:19 pm
If only Aaron Murry was 80% as good as Danny Weurfoul was, UGA would be killing the SEC right now.
45 ACP
November 16th, 2012
1:20 pm
I like Aaron Murray, but if he has another one of his infamous meltdowns, as we all know he is prone to do in BIG games, against Alabama in the Dome I’m not so sure everyone will want him back.
Skokie Dog
November 16th, 2012
1:21 pm
Who is HuDson Mason?
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
1:25 pm
Hudson is a lady that correct spelling in sports blogs.
joe jenkins
November 16th, 2012
1:32 pm
@ smokie…..yeah i forgot about parker welch….even though i never see him starting for us….i think he will be a solid backup through out the rest of his career
just the truth
November 16th, 2012
1:36 pm
Bill, why no basketball talk.
joe jenkins
November 16th, 2012
1:46 pm
For us to beat bama..these players must step up….ray drew getting pressure on aj mcarron would blow bama’s minds they wouldn’t know what to do….jsw coming through for 4 catches in this game would shock them. jay rome catching about three passes against bama would be huge….i’m not saying we cant win this game without these guys stepping up…but it would be nice….i’m still looking for corn washington to have his best game….please be against bama…with corn and drew coming fast around the corners…aj mcarron does not have achance…please Dawgs deliver the pain
joe jenkins
November 16th, 2012
1:49 pm
@ just the truth….who cares about basketball..we will be lucky 10 games this year
NCDawg
November 16th, 2012
2:07 pm
I don’t know if Murray has any ambitions to go pro. I’m sure he will get a draft evaluation done regardless. He still needs to prove he can step up in the big game. SEC Championship game will be a pretty good test for him. His lack of prototype size will hurt him but if he can remind teams of Drew Brees enough… he might get a shot. If he does come back look for 1 of the backups to make noise about transferring. I think he need to see a sports shrink to get him over the trying too hard bugaboo he has. He needs to trust that he can get it done. Remember John Smoltz had to do some time with that sports shrink early in his career too.
Mason will get the nod unless Ramsey ends up being a world beater. He will definitely redshirt. It will be interesting to see if Lemay breaks through because he definitely has talent.
Ga Southern should be an interesting test. I like having a tune up before Tech because the toughest thing about playing Tech is getting everybody on the same page against that High School offense of theirs. It’ll be interesting to see how frustrated Moobs Johnson gets when our overwhelmingly more talented D is up to speed on shutting down their option. Will it be a repeat of “we run this state?” I sure hope so.
Vulture
November 16th, 2012
2:19 pm
Warm up against a high school team to play a high school team?
Hooty Goot
November 16th, 2012
2:25 pm
Altamahahahaha — The man’s name is HUTSON Mason. How much do you REALLY know about UGA football ?
7576DAWG
November 16th, 2012
2:33 pm
Richt should have taken the red shirt off Murray his Freshman year and let him Quarterback the last 5 or 6 games. Murray’s shoulder problem had healed by then. It made no sense with Cox, being in his last year and no way was going Pro, to be the Quarterback. I guess Richt didn’t think it was worth burning Murray’s red shirt for just 5 or 6 games but because of that decision Murray was not ready to lead his second year at Georgia and we lost a lot of games.
Truth be known the reason Cox was the Quarterback his senior year was because Richt probably told him the year before if he didn’t transfer that he, COX , would be the starter the next year. I hope that Richt has not guaranteed Mason the Quarterback job . Murray will not go Pro next year , at best he would be drafted in the 5TH or 6TH round if at all unless he shows great leadership in the SEC Championship game and win it and then he may bump up to 2 to the 4TH round. I think it is 90% chance that Murray returns.
For those of you who think he is only going one year for his Masters, I am under the impression that he is in a two year program that will get him a Masters and PHD at the same time in Psychology.
Hooty Goot
November 16th, 2012
2:34 pm
Yep ! Murray needs to prove that he can step up in the big game just like Matt Ryan has done………Yeah Right
7576DAWG
November 16th, 2012
2:44 pm
If Murray returns next year then Ramsey , who is starting in January will red shirt. I just hope that if Ramsey is better than Mason in 2014 that Mason will not get the call over Ramsey because Richt has promise him the position if he didn’t transfer.
I think LeMay is probably better than Mason but for some reason can not learn the playbook and all the jobs that a Quarterback has to learn, like audibles. You would have to really simplify the play’s in order for LeMay to get to play , without going to the sideline after ever play. I think he transfers even though I think he had the potential of being a great Quarterback but Richt and Bobo expect a lot more independence from their Quarterback than most programs.
NCDawg
November 16th, 2012
2:47 pm
I think we try to run the ball down both Ga Southern and Tech’s throats. It often works out well to do to your opponent what they hope to do to you. Beat them at their own game. That is what we did against UF. We beat them at their own game. Pound the ball and play keep away. That way when the 4th quarter rolls around the Dawgs will be the ones breaking off 10-15 yard runs instead of the other way around.
You can’t make a virtually one dimensional team even more one dimensional. Moobs will run his triple option even when he is down by 4 TD’s… so you can’t hope to force him to throw the ball unless they are down 3 or 4 TD’s late in the game. That is when you know you have them beat. This is probably true for Ga Southern as well.
DawgFaitful
November 16th, 2012
2:58 pm
Joe Jenkins,
“Richt just cant beat saban”
How do you figure that Joe? Richt is 2-2 Vs. Nick Saban. 1-1 when he was at LSU and 1-1 since he’s been at Bama. We went to Tuscaloosa and beat them in Stafford’s Soph. year. Remember??
Why so negative all the time? I think we WILL beat Bama. This is not the same Bama team from last year. Their entire secondary is playing in the NFL now. If Mettenberger can throw for 300+ yds on them then what will Aaron Murray do? They have NO pass rush. Georgia actually has the better defense and much better offense. Give your Dawgs some credit.
DawgFaitful
November 16th, 2012
3:05 pm
Joe Jenkins,
“if we can develop a forth or fith wr..we will be unstopable…”
Will you please stop talking about the 4th and 5th WR for crying out loud? You’re just not making any sense with that. We have 4 proven WR’s. That’s enough for any team. We’re mostly in 2 and 3 wide sets anyway. We already are as close to unstoppable as you can get. We’re averaging more yards per play than Oregon. We’re averaging more yds per game than any offense in UGA history. scoring 40 pts/game dude.
Jay Rome will never dominate. He’s a TE. Orson Charles was probably the best receiving TE we ever had. Would you describe his play as dominating? Rome is a freak athlete and will become an NFL caliber TE but he’s playing behind a senior now. He’s going to get some balls thrown his way.
Mobile Dawg
November 16th, 2012
3:08 pm
As much as I like to see a strong running game I hope we use the next two games to fine tune our offense if the defense gets us the ball. I would like to see some screens, slants, shuttles, misdirections, give Bama some other things to game plan for. Bama will win out and they will show up in the dome with something to prove. Let’s hope we do the same. Their coaches ability won’t be questioned, ours will.
Columbus Dawg
November 16th, 2012
3:10 pm
DawgFaitful, Tell him about it. Look I know I have been tough on Richt on these blogs myself, but the man has them tightened up, playing darn good football, and this is Georgia’s finest hour. Every living, breathing Dawg needs to get behind the Georgia Bulldog’s staff, players, and everyone else who makes Bulldog Football happen. Even Bobo looks better with a running game. Like Richt said, this can be a team that will be talked about for years to come. IT’S TIME TO LET THE BIG DAWG EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DawgFaitful
November 16th, 2012
3:14 pm
Joe Jenkins,
“with corn and drew coming fast around the corners”
Ray Drew? Next year is Ray Drew’s year. He’s not even a starter. Garrison Smith and Mike Thornton play ahead of him. Our pass rushers are Jarvis J and Jordan J. That’s who would be getting pressure on Mccarron anyway. And they will. Alabama has given up over 20 sacks this year. That’s more than our line has given up and we’ve thrown the ball probably twice as many times. Where’s that all-world Bama offensive line?
BTW Cornelious Washington had a great game vs. Florida. Even though he had no sacks he was very disruptive in the backfield. Why do you keep saying that we need all these bench layers to step up. We don’t need that. We just need the NFL talent that is starting for us to play a good game. The 4th and 5th WR and the 3rd string defensive end won’t make any difference unless som one ahead of them gets hurt.
Devil's Advocate
November 16th, 2012
3:19 pm
Joe Cox provided enough offense for UGA to contend for the SEC Championship; it was the defense that let us down. Just saying.
LawDawg
November 16th, 2012
3:42 pm
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville : Do you have any concept of exhaustingly repetitive you are? Do you have a specific form of tourette’s whereby if you fail to type out “kool aid drinkers” 50 times a day you have a mental breakdown?
Or are you just sad and lonely and the negative attention from all the people you annoy is the only thing that makes you feel alive and the only human connection you can muster?
RunninWithTheDawgs
November 16th, 2012
3:44 pm
If Murray leaves after this year Hutson Mason takes over at QB and all good Dawg fans should and probably will be happy. Mark Richt will tell you himself that Mason is right there with Murray as far as ability goes. Physically Murray is a little tougher than Mason so he is the first string qb. Actually there are few guys on the team that are physically tougher than Murray. He’s a bull. Probably would have been a good tight end. Glad he’s our qb. I hope he returns next year. It would be a ironic for Mason to have to take a team that Murray nursed along to a national championship. GO DAWGS !
Ty
November 16th, 2012
3:47 pm
Murray has finished his Masthers and is working on a Doctorate Degree.
DCLee
November 16th, 2012
3:52 pm
@Patched…Only one coach/team, gets to win the national title every year. If he wins the SEC title it will be his 3rd in 12 seasons. Not bad considering UGA had not won one since 1980. Aren’t SEC titles championships as well? The guy is a great coach and even better person and UGA is lucky to have him! Do I get frustrated with some decisions from time time like the majority of the fan base. Sure but every coach makes bone headed decisions from time time as you can’t please everyone. How would you like to be a Bama fan this week? 1st and goal from the 6 with one of the best backs and offensive lines in the country and you throw it 3 out of 4 downs because the one running play didn’t work. UGA did something similar in Columbia. They were down 21 and finally had a drive right before half. Gurley gets 2 yards on the first 2 downs to move the ball to the 2 and we throw it on down 3 & 4. I would have rather run it 2 more times and if USCe stops us then we don’t deserve to be in the game then try throwing it. I’m sure Bama fans feel the same way about their chance in that last game. In fact that Bama game looked similar to the UGA-USCe game at 20-0. The only difference was that Bama was at home and thus was able to work themselves back into the game unlike UGA on the road.
DawgFaitful
November 16th, 2012
3:56 pm
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville,
Don’t you think you should trust Richt’s judgement on how to manage his QB’s? He’s coached and developed countless overly successful QB’s including: a heisman winner, a #1 overall draft pick, the former all-time NCAA leader in wins and currently a kid a will soon be the only QB in NCAA history to throw for 3000+ yds in 3 consecutive seasons and before it’s over he will have thrown more TD passes than anyone in NCAA history. Murray is commanding the highest scoring offense in UGA history. We’re averaging more yds/play than Oregon is and you want to see more of the backup. How does that make any sense?
If you ask me, football Ignorant GA fans should leave it up to the guy with an impressive track record. If we listened to all the idiot blog trolls like you, we’d get nowhere.
hornblowermg
November 16th, 2012
4:02 pm
NO to aaron murray. YES to Hutson Mason.
1dog1
November 16th, 2012
4:03 pm
with murray back, gurley and marshall, better Oline and D—the dogs will make a BCS title run in 2013—mark it down!
DawgFaitful
November 16th, 2012
4:09 pm
hornblowermg,
“NO to aaron murray. YES to Hutson Mason”
Thanks for the insightful post. A real contribution to the thread. Based on your statement I’d say you’re retarded but you spelled everything correctly. Now I’m baffled.
AltamahaDawg
November 16th, 2012
4:13 pm
7576, Not sure that Richt promising Cox he would start over Matthew Stafford is exactly a plausible explaination.
Pulpwud Smiff
November 16th, 2012
4:16 pm
Dwag fans will be elated to know that Shreveport now has a 24/7 bowling alley. And the bar next door has added a dartboard and indoor plumbing.
It doesn’t get any better than that for dwags, does it!
Neutral
November 16th, 2012
4:30 pm
Hornblowermg = clueless
LogicalUS
November 16th, 2012
4:36 pm
Where does anybody think Murray is going? The arena league?
Did he finally get over the Clowney nightmares?
Discount DoubleDawg
November 16th, 2012
5:24 pm
Logical- are you saying you believe that Murray will not get drafted in the NFL?
John Galt
November 16th, 2012
5:29 pm
Have you people considered how good our offense will be, with the entire O-line back with a year under their belt, Murray and Gurshall and Ogletree in the backfield. Rome at TE and Mitchell, Bennett, Conley, etc.,etc.,etc. at WR?
Despite graduation and early departures, the D will be loaded with skill as well (I see J Jordan becoming a star.) Despite a more challenging schedule the future looks bright for the Dawgs-
cmac22
November 16th, 2012
5:30 pm
Murry coming back for one more season? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Will we have to go another year of not winning a big game??? (Beating Florida this year would have counted if Murray had actually done something to win the game instead of doing everything he could to lose it!!). It would be best for the DAWGS if Murray moved on & someone is given the chance to play!
Joey
November 16th, 2012
5:37 pm
DawgFaitful: “Richt is 2-2 Vs. Nick Saban. 1-1 when he was at LSU and 1-1 since he’s been at Bama.”
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One thing worse than a know-it-all, is a lazy-know-it-all.
Saban beat Richt’s Dawgs 2 times in ‘03. I’ll leave it to you to look up the rest . . .
Joey
November 16th, 2012
5:41 pm
Hey Pulpwood Idiot,
I think your team has been to Shreveport since UGA has.
Think before you type, if possible . . .
Justin
November 16th, 2012
7:15 pm
In light of he fact that Murray submitted his name to the NFL Advisory Committee after LAST season and graduated shortly thereafter, I would be shocked if he returned for his senior year.
With the perspective we have as…well, as people who are not Aaron Murray, not constantly being marinated in praise for our own greatness, it’s easy for us to see that he’d benefit greatly from a fourth year at UGA.
But based on his actions up to this point, it seems evident that he’s planning to leave after this season, along with Jarvis Jones (who really IS ready to make the NFL jump) and probably a couple of other underclassmen who think they’re more ready than they are.
KF
November 16th, 2012
8:35 pm
Best get some rest Dawgs. You are going to need it chasing the Eagles all over the field tomorrow!!
NCDawg
November 16th, 2012
9:01 pm
Just a reminder to evreyone on the “we should have played Mason more” bent. It is fact that the backup QB is always the most popular player on a team. There is nothing that says that Hutson Mason will be a better QB than Aaron Murray to this point. Yes, I would have liked for him to have gotten more game experience but last year Coach Richt was coaching for his job. No lead was safe except in a couple of games. With a redshirt being the goal, nothing short of taking Murray off the field on a stretcher would get Mason in a game this year. So it is all a moot point.
CMR and Coach Bobo are excellent QB coaches. If you doubt this go look at what the Detroit Lions head coach said about Matthew Stafford before his rookie season. He said that Stafford was the best prepared rookie QB he’d ever seen. These guys DO know what they are doing.
Murray’s issue is not coaching or talent. It is trying too hard. He presses in big games. This is all mental… no amount of coaching can change it. He has to do it himself or he needs to get a sports shrink to help him get past it. John Smoltz was his own worst enemy until he saw Dr. Jack Llewellyn. My Dad had it pegged almost a full year before Smoltz decided to see Llewellyn. He needs to learn the fine art of chilling.
Look how many times he has said he had trouble sleeping the week of a big game. He needs to quiet his mind. This is why he wrecks lesser opponents… he doesn’t psyche himself out.
Last year he was lighting up LSU until late in the first half… then he came out tight in the 3rd quarter and the rest is history. Same thing happened against Michigan St. What he needs to do is meditate before the game and at half time. He needs calm. Watch how loose he is against Ga Southern. Hopefully he will chill before the SEC championship game and see that he can be the same QB against Bama as he is vs Aubburn. And yes, it is just that simple.
My-Guy
November 16th, 2012
9:09 pm
SEC QBs that were playing against next year or possibly (depending on outcomes of the season)
Alabama- AJ McCarron- Junior
Florida- Dreff Driskel- Sophomore
South Carolina- Connor Shaw- Junior
Tennessee- Tyler Bray- Junior
Texas A&M- Johnny Manziel- Dangerous True Freshmen
LSU- Zach Mettenberger- Junior
etc…
ATTENTION EVERYBODY!!! Notice how over 75% of these teams have junior QBs that will be returning next year for their senior year! Aaron Murray is also a *JUNIOR* for Georgia, and we’ll need him next year, WE NEED HIM!!!! With our killer schedule next year, you got to be kidding me. Why would you people think of taking Aaron Murray out. Without Aaron Murray next year, we’ll be shutdown for good. With next year being the FINAL year of the BCS. We need Aaron Murray badly, with the expierenced Bennett, Mitchell, & Gurshall next year we’ll be unstoppable!
Strat Cat Dawg
November 16th, 2012
10:30 pm
Stay in the moment- the only game that matters is Georgia Southern. Take are of business and it’s all good
Strat Cat Dawg
November 16th, 2012
10:31 pm
***care***
Outer Banks Dawg
November 16th, 2012
10:34 pm
Agree with My – Guy 100%. Murray will be better in his final year because he will be more comfortable, better prepared. He’s going to be working on footwork, technique, arm strength, and reading the defense to prepare for the NFL combine. He knows he needs to get better and he is working on it as we speak.
If we get our O line right so we can run the horses and protect Murray, we can be tough. That’s what’s starting to gel now. I believe our defense will reload pretty well next year too.
Lets beat these high school teams and get ready for the dome.
Ps. Coach Richt has been preparing the team in full pads all week for Georgia Southern. I like it. I think he wants them conditioned to play Bama. Think about it. Prepare for the option, and get conditioned and tough for the next 3 weeks. This team has shown tremendous growth. I’m proud of all of them. They are working hard and doing the right things.
DawgFaithful
November 17th, 2012
12:54 am
Joey,
I don’t need to look it up deuche. So he’s 2-3 vs Saban. I forgot about 1. So what. The point is you said Richt can’t beat Saban and he’s done it twice. Don’t be an jackass. Stop making stupid posts and I won’t have to call you out.
Bad Dawg
November 17th, 2012
2:58 am
If the ACC places two teams in BCS bowls, the current set-up’s loss of credibility will be complete.
Bad Dawg
November 17th, 2012
3:07 am
I’m sure, Pulpwood, that you’re trying to insult UGA by calling them the ‘dwags’. Problem is, ‘dwag’ is a nonsensical word that only holds meaning to you (if anyone). Insults are ineffective when nobody knows what you’re talking about.
Joey
November 17th, 2012
7:50 am
My correction on your erroneous post was MY FIRST COMMENT on this story, dummy. I haven’t posted anything about Richt vs Saban.
Wrong again.
Do you ever get anything right, Dawgfaithful?
joe jenkins
November 17th, 2012
9:26 am
Dawgfaithful….listen bro!! It’s never a bad thing to have has many as weapons as we can at wr….king and mitchell are good..the rest couldn’t even start at vandy…we miss brown and bennett…and it will really show against bama
NCDawg
November 17th, 2012
9:34 am
Ok boys… no need to toss around childish insults over a statistical inaccuracy. Yes, Richt is 2-3 vs Saban… but so is everyone else or worse. The only SEC coach with a winning record against Saban was Tommy Tuberville. He got fired. So I guess beating Saban is not the benchmark we thought it was.
I was reading an article from 2008… the week before the 2nd Blackout… the Bama debacle… and it stated that at that point Richt had won 9 straight games against ranked opponents. So the trend we all talk about… the being unable to beat ranked teams… began that week. So what happened? Did CMR, as so many have suggested, just stop caring about winning? Did he suddenly become a poor coach? Did he forget how to win? This is where perspective comes into play folks. Before that game he had won 9 straight against ranked opponents. Something happened and I’m not sure what but it was internal to the program.
What I am getting at is this: Everybody forgets that it was once normal for UGA to beat ranked teams. Did the opponents suddenly get better? Probably not. I was dismayed by the trend just as everyone else was/is but I was also willing to see if the staff could right the ship. I openly called for the staff to be fired if they lost to UF. They did not. They beat UF at their own game. Everyone feared a let down against Auburn… they did not. Why? The PLAYERS, the guys who actually play the games, woke up and smelled the coffee. They started doing what they were coached to do and played with heart. Why? Was it getting insulted? Partially. Most of it was realizing that they had no one to blame but themselves for being embarrassed by SC. They didn’t do what they were being COACHED to do and they lost badly. They half assed it against Kentucky and almost got embarrassed. Then a trusted team leader applied 2×4 to their collective noggins. Then they woke up. The coaches will say it is their responsibility but the truth is that after a certain point it is all upon the players.
Did Saban suddenly become a poor coach last week? No. The players came out flat… despite being told all week that they would be in trouble if they did. And they got ambushed by a hungrier team. They expected to be able to just beat A&M… they did not hear that from their coaches folks. The PLAYERS made up their own minds that they could give partial effort and still win. And they found out differently.
CMR purged the bad apples last year and in the off season. They eliminated themselves. A coach cannot make a team jell… they can only create the environment. Sometimes it happens quickly, sometimes it takes a while. Our guys needed the 2×4. Now we will see what kind of team we really have because the light came on.
Joey
November 17th, 2012
9:42 am
Joe, Chris Conley could start for any team in the country and that’s a fact. It was our almost embarrassing WR depth keeping him on the sideline.
Keep an eye on him the last 4 games, because he will be the one who doesn’t see double coverage, and may have some huge games.
JSW is also hugely talented, and would be playing for most anybody (Urban Myer, Chip Kelly, etc) who love players with world-class speed, and design plays to get them the ball in space. He would get 6-8 touches a game playing for those guys – hopeully he learns that vast playbook (sarcasm) in time to make some plays at UGA someday.
NCDawg
November 17th, 2012
9:46 am
Joe… are you still moaning about our WR’s? Yes, it would be great to have Brown and Bennett but we don’t. Are the replacements as good? We won’t know until they actually play. Conley did just fine last week. We will have to replace Brown anyway. We will get Bennett back next year. We aren’t doomed because of the injuries dude. It is inconvenient. And maybe it will turn out to be a blessing in the long run. Maybe the experience will dampen the loss of King and Brown next year. But no matter how you slice it… we will just have to deal with it. Pessimism is a self fulfilling prophecy. Being realistic is not all doom and gloom… it is balance. Things could actually end up being better. You never know.
NCDawg
November 17th, 2012
9:57 am
Joey- actually the playbook is huge… and perhaps it’s too big. I think it could be purged and freshened up a bit myself. The actual number of plays is far too large for the limited practice time these guys have. I also think execution is hampered by having too much going on. The team runs the plays they execute well in practice. If you throw too much at them then the mistakes pile up and those plays don’t get called in the games. Maybe the starting point needs to shift. Maybe go to page 27 instead of page 5 for the starting point. Start them out with some plays deeper in the playbook and let them chew on those for a few weeks. I guarantee we don’t use even half of the playbook. Maybe the half we use needs to change?
DawgFaithful
November 17th, 2012
10:39 am
Joe,
If you don’t think Wooten and Conley wouldn’t start at Vandy then you’re a bigger idiot than I thought. Do you know anything about Vandy’s roster? They would instantly be the 2nd and 3rd best receivers behind Matthews. Vandy would love to get there hands on that kind of talent.
Keep making deuchey posts about WR depth if it makes you feel good. I’m just trying to help you out. It doesn’t seem like anyone is in agreement with you here. Again We’ve got 4 proven WR’s. You post this crap every day and its a moot point bro. Ever thought about finding a new soap box to ride on here?
DawgFaithful
November 17th, 2012
10:43 am
Joey,
I’m sorry buddy. I got one deuche confused with another deuche. Please forgive me. Have a nice gameday. Gooo Dawgs! Sic Em! Hoooo hoop hoooo
Joey
November 17th, 2012
10:56 am
I was just being a little sarcastic, NCDawg. Our O has been pretty good this season and I have few complaints – maybe we get a little too conservative in tight games?
Of course, that may be the result of Bobo/Richt not trusting Murray so much in big games, with the way he gets so amped up.
DawgFaithful, I’m not a “deuche.” And I actually thought you were a Techie in disguise with the mispelling of your posting name (DawgFaitful), so apologies for the “lazy know it all” remark. They do it on here incessantly.
Go Dawgs!.
dawgfan
November 17th, 2012
11:04 am
I would hope what Richt learned from 2002, 2005 and 2007 is that every GAME counts. Until we stop having these brainfart no show games every year we will never win a National title. Its going to cost us again this year too. Even if we win out and two of the three undefeated drop a game, why does everyone feel so entitled to a spot in the BCS title game? We got blown out by 4 freaking touchdowns because we were completely unprepared for that game. I think a one loss Oregon, KSU or Notre Dame would have a pretty legitimate gripe that we are not BCS title material because of that. There is just no excuse for us to get beat like that. I think any team in the nation would have lost to South Carolina that night, but a championship calibre team wouldn’t have lost by 4 touchdowns.
Thanks
Joey
November 17th, 2012
11:31 am
We will know in three weeks what the SC game cost us, dawgfan. But we know right now we would be sitting on the “catbird seat” if we were 10-0.
If we don’t beat Bama, though, SC didn’t mean anything anyway.
Beat Bama, we at least go to the Sugar Bowl. Lose, and it’s Tampa or Atlanta time . . .
NCDawg
November 17th, 2012
11:32 am
A point to make here… the brain fart games that we so despise are unfortunately the norm for college football. As a Dawg fan I am praying for a couple of teams to have brain fart games right now. It happens every year it seems and this year is no different. How many of you thought A&M could go into Tuscaloosa and beat the Tide? Oh no… Saban, the greatest coach ever! wouldn’t ever let that happen. Well, guess what? It did. The key is to not do it late in the season. Oregon has laid an egg virtually every season they have been in contention. Oklahoma has done it. It is more the normal than being able to plow through and go undefeated.
Just saying.
Thomas
November 17th, 2012
11:57 am
PAC 10 teams do not play the same caliber players as in the SEC, that gives me a sense that Oregon is Overrated and do not deserve the poll rank they have.
dawgfan
November 17th, 2012
12:43 pm
NCDawg, 4 touchdown losses are not the norm for programs loaded with NFL talent and all the resources in the world. You’re in la la land there pal.
L AD
November 17th, 2012
12:54 pm
Bill outstanding article! I hope Murray comes back, and i hope you would consider doing a piece on these guys at some point, the JoJa Boys, these two guys up north who do their own broadcast. It’s worth a listen, cuz they are FUN to listen to http://www.JoJaBoys.com
NCDawg
November 17th, 2012
1:31 pm
dawgfan… I didn’t say they were. I said that brain farts happen every year, even to the best teams. A loss is a loss, whether by 1 point or 4 TD’s. The Dawgs will gladly accept a brain fart from Oregon, K-State or Notre Dame. My guess is at least one will go down.
AltamahaDawg
November 17th, 2012
4:52 pm
Coach Bobo just rushed for over 1000 yards, and passed for a school record in TDs. Great Job.
Joey
November 17th, 2012
5:17 pm
I bet he’s tired!!
Bobo has done a good job this season, and most of last season.
I wouldn’t mind a bit for Bobo being our next head coach, when Richt retires, I predict will be at the end of this season, if UGA wins the SEC.
AltamahaDawg
November 18th, 2012
8:56 am
Not to mention Bobo has been catching the ball really well this season. He’s a better blocker than we thought too.