Richt has impressive company among coaches with no national title

First! Go Dawgs!!

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Yes. Richt would rank behind the Sabans, Miles, Myers, etc if he doesn’t win a NC. They’re all successful coaches but winning the crystal trophy puts you in the upper class.

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Bill, saying Frank Beamer or Mark Richt are lesser coaches than Nick Saban or Les Miles, makes no sense because the situations are very different at different colleges. I believe that if Mark Richt were coaching at Alabama, he most likely would have won just as many national titles as Nick Saban. It’s like saying a Pro football player who goes to the pro bowl five or six years in his career, is not as good as another player who never makes the pro bowl, but plays on a different team and does have a super bowl ring on his finger, is a superior player. You can’t compare apples to oranges and make a valid comparison.

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Richt has had far more talent than all of the other coaches you listed, including Frank Beamer. That will be the knock on him when he retires. He had top 5 talent every year and couldn’t do much with them.

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Yes, it would put him behind others with similar records and titles. The same can be said for Vince Dooley. With 1980 he would not rank nearly so high.

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It can’t be debated that Georgia is clearly the best team of the last decade (from the SEC) to have not won it all.

That really isn’t that great of an accomplishment when the SEC wins the title every year.

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Could you say the same about Vince Dooley since Herschel was a oncein a life time player that came along at the right time for Dooly. As far as Richts record. During his tenure at UGA the SEC has had 7 national championships. Talk about competition being the greatest for someone that has a 75% record. If UGa was in another league there is no telling how many conference championships he would have had by now. Well basically the SEC East is almost another league since you have to play a championship for the SEC. Before the Championships were added how many SEC national championships were there.

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Hey Eddie, MR has not won 75% of his games in the SEC. In fact the last few years his SEC record is pretty terrible. He was at the right place at the right time. The last 5 years have been pretty average.

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Hey Jessie, if MR and SABAN traded teams, UGA would win a NC and the people at Bama would be running MR out of town on a rail. MR does not work as hard as Saban, he’d collecting checks and just getting by.

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Look at his reord against top 25 teams before he gave up play calling and after do a story on this Mark Richt will never win a NC as long as Mike Bobo and Garner are still at UGA.

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In MOST leagues of play, it’s a coach’s job to get his/her team to play to the best of it’s potential, qualify for the playoffs, and have them clicking at the right time.

You could argue, at the end of three seasons, that Georgia was the “best” college football team in those three seasons under Richt’s tenure.

It’s not his fault polls and a deeply flawed BCS system has worked against Georgia each of those three years. Imagine the new four-team playoff existed those three years; we’d have one one or more times, I believe.

There’s not much Richt could have done as a head coach (in 2006) to have had DJ Shockley on the field for the Florida game (which we’d have won, handily, that season.

Georgia was clearly the best team in football at the end of the 2008 season, and while we can ALL agree that early season losses to SC and Tennessee were both disappointing, and in retrospect, huge losses, ask a New York Giants fan if Tom Coughlin’s looking back at any of his team’s seven losses last year and losing sleep over them. The “system” (or lack thereof) cost us that shot, then.

Back to 2002, UGA finished 3rd (to Ohio State and Miami, who both were undefeated going into the BCS championship Fiesta Bowl), so they’d have likely played in a four-team playoff that season, correct?

Hey, I, like any other ‘Dawg fan, would love my team to play for, and win, a national title, and I love Coach RIcht for running his program the right way, as best he can. I think, given the current coaching staff, we’re on the right path (again) towards prominence, but we, the fan base, have to do our part, too. Recruits read these things.

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Can we Just win a bowl game, any bowl game! We do agree however, UGA has a Top Ten recruiting class for years and years and nothing happens.

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Bill, the way CFB crowns a National Champ, I think its completely unfair to hang that on Richt. You dont have to just be good, you have to be lucky and have the poll voters on your side. Its not like Richt hasn’t been in the conversation. What is the difference between Richt’s 2002 squad and Meyer’s 2006 UF squad? Both had one loss, but Richt was behind undefeated Ohio St. and Miami, not Ohio St. and Michigan which opened the door for Meyer. Whats the difference between Richt’s 2007 team and Saban’s team last year? Both were regarded as one of the top two teams in the country without a division title, much less conference. UGA doesnt resonate in the polls, so they voted Richt down and voted Bama in.

Until UGA starts losing in a legit playoff, I will hang the NC on Richt. Meanwhile, he has stayed at UGA through thick and thin while Meyer and Saban bounce somewhere else when the going gets tough. Its easy to pile up good records when you dont stay long enough to see your coaching staff cycle over and the conference cycle around on you.

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“Richt has had far more talent than all of the other coaches you listed, including Frank Beamer.”

GTBoobie, That statement points to a good coach. Would you like to recant?

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“Frank Beamer…. came closest to a national championship with a certain dog-abusing quarterback.”

At first I read that and thought, Mike Vick never played against UGA? hehe

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Bill,

To answer your question IMHO, a NC doesn’t make a great coach. Consistently in the hunt for a NC in an important ingredient to being one. I like Richt but, I wouldn’t consider him a great coach at this stage. Only once in those 11 years has he had the Dawgs in contention. He has won, true. That makes him a good coach, not a great one. The naysayers harp on his underacheiving and to a large degree, they are correct IMHO

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@GTBob – So where is Meyer now? Meyer’s team goes on a down swing and he leaves. Where is Petrino now? Oh yeah, out again. You need to look up Richt’s record against these coaches. Saban and Meyer are the only coaches that have a winning record on him. He’s only down on Saban by 1 loss when Saban was at LSU. He split a home and home with Saban’s Tide.

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“Georgia was clearly the best team in football at the end of the 2008 season,”

I think you mean 07. We got our buts whipped by Bama, Florida, and someone else in 08.

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Considering what he has to work with in the Mid-Atlantic states, Frank Beamer is not less of a coach than Urban Meyers for Beamer’s failure to win a natty.

Richt is a really good coach, but considering the talent he has to work with at Georgia, Mark will never be a great coach unless he wins it all at least once in his Georgia career.

Let’s hope the ball bounces well for him this year, a really good year for Georgia to win the crystal.

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Richt will get one if he keeps finishing in the top 10 6 out of 11 seasons, and giving himself a chance. Once he gets one, he’ll get on a roll and start to stockpile some trophies.

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As for the articles choices for best coach without a title, those are just the current hot names. Honesly, Richt, Beamer, Snyder, and Bielema should be the top choices. To put any of them in a category with Kelly at ND and the others is insulting. Snyder turned around K St in a tough Big 12 as fast as they fell when he left. The long standing records of Richt, Beamer, and Bielema speak for themselves.

Most of his top choices are just the hot names right now. Kelly at Oregon has been winning a down Pac 10/12, but has not done well at all in high profile out of conference matchups. Peterson and Patterson have done will out of conference while maximizing talent, but have yet to prove they can coach a team through a major conference grind to get there.

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“No, the point of the post was that Richt has incredible talent that most other coaches would have won a National Championship with.”

Well that’s not a subjective statement at all is it?

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Richt’s a top 10 recruiter every year.

Richt develops more guys into the NFL than Saban, Spurrier, or Meyer.

Richt has coached 2 Heisman trophy winners.

Richt has a better winning percentage than Saban, Miles or Spurrier.

Richt’s in his own league.

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Its a tough argument that a national championship is all about luck when Urban Meyer and Nick Saban have won FIVE national championships since Richt became UGA’s coach. That’s not luck. Its great coaching. Clearly they are doing something that Richt isn’t doing. Richt has been on the job for 11 years and has had plenty of time for the “bounces to go his way” for him to win it all. That is no longer a valid excuse. In my opinion Richt should have 2 national titles by now, 2002 and 2007. Boneheaded inexcusable “no show” losses in those seasons kept us from the big prize. Success is in the details and Richt has never demonstrated a mastery of the details. He often says something like “the goal is to get to the SECCG and whatever happens after that is gravy.” No coach, the goal should be to win each and every damn time UGA takes the field. The Richt apologists will say something like “dawgfan you’re an idiot. Do you really think Richt doesn’t care about winning every game?” YES, that is exactly what I think. I think his goal every year is to win the SEC East. He has said that himself. You do not have to win every game to win the SEC East. His goal should be to win a national title. You do have to win every game to win a national title. You can say what you want about Meyer and Saban (and when it comes to Meyer I would probably agree with you. He’s a punk), but those guys are workaholic maniacs that expect nothing but excellence out of their team. I don’t get that from Richt. I get more of a “well guys, lets just do the best we can, have fun, and let the chips fall where they may” kind of vibe. That’s great and it has its strengths, but so far it hasn’t gotten us a national championship and at this point you have to wonder if it ever will.

Thanks.

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“No, the point of the post was that Richt has incredible talent that most other coaches would have won a National Championship with.”

That’s quite a leap and very subjective there GTBobby. The backhanded compliment in your statement is the fact that it takes a good coach to amass that kind of talent. A great coach IMHO, amasses and coaches it up to it’s full potential.

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@dawnfan – Saban’s 2009 squad is the only one of those that was undefeated. Saban didnt even win his division last year, but got the shot the polls wouldnt allow Richt in 2007. In 2007, Richt got voted down strictly because he didnt have a conference title. We all know its because UGA isnt a brand name in the polls.

His 2002 team was identical to Meyer’s 2006 team. Meyer got lucky and was a one loss team behind Ohio st. and Michigan who we all know play at the end of every season.

When you have a poll system picking 2 teams out of over 120, you need to be both lucky and good.

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Mike S.

I would guess Bobo isn’t a good chess player, neither is Richt. My from the hip contention is that many of our losses in the last 10 years are from being out coached. Lack of preparation for the opponent and Xs and Os on gameday

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Bama didn’t win the SEC in 2011, but got invited in. UGA didn’t in 07′, and got excluded.

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“If you are a coach at a football factory/party school then it is not hard to amass that kind of talent. How much did Florida’s talent fall off after Meyer left? How much did USC’s talent fall after Carroll left? If Richt left today, whoever replaced him would recruit top 10 classes with ease.”

GTBobby, your pannies are showing again and you should stop playing the jester. “football factory/party school” That is only your very biased opinion. Are you capable of an intelligent football conversation or shall I move on? Florida’s talent level was seriously on the down swing BEFORE Meyer left, players and coaches. Why would you bring a cheating USC and Carroll into this conversation? Where is the relevance?

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Georgia could have defeated florida in 2002 and still would have been left out because of Miami and Ohio state being the ESPN poster boy favorites.

Just like Auburn in 2004

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The difference here is Richt is in the SEC at a high-profile school like UGA with loads of talent close by. GA should be able to recruit the top athletes & compete for a national title 3 out of every 5 yrs, or at least be in the hunt for one. Yes, he came close in 2002, 2004 & 2007, and was just on the outside looking in. That’s the bad thing about the BCS, but hopefully that will be a thing of the past here pretty soon. But the main thing that has kept Right and UGA out of the national title competition is they’ve been outcoached too often. He held on to Martinez about 4 years too long & almost cost him his job, and I think that’s obvious to everyone now. But Richt is hard-headed & that’s what has cost him (and UGA) national title opportunities in the past – not being able to adjust his offence, defense or recruiting style to keep up front.

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Richt is a good coach and a better man from what i can tell. If he stays we will win a NC in the near future. I’m not sure that this is the year but the schedule does set up nicely. The biggest hurdle is the SECCG. The west is very tough at the moment and will be tough to beat. It wasn’t to long ago that the east was on top.

The NC would be great but I would much rather have an SEC Crown because that is won on the field. The NC is and always has been nothing more than a beauty contest decided largely by the media. While I agree that Alabama was the best last year and I do not think anyone could have beaten them, we will never know because they weren’t given the chance. I.m a huge SEC fan, Bulldawg first, and I am glad that the SEC has won 6 NC in a row, but it is a joke how some teams are denied an opportunity to even challenge for the NC.

Major college football is the only sport that the champion is decided on paper and not on the field. The main reason is the money I know. I think if every one would give it a chance a playoff would yield much more money for all involved. The new 4 team format will demonstrate this I am sure. That however should be extended to at least 8 teams from 8 regions across the U.S.

Just sayin………

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lsu could have won the SEC in 2007, and won all their games instead of losing 2, they didn’t, they shouldn’t have been able to leapfrog SEC Champ UGA.

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UGA is held to higher standard than LSU or Bama.

UGA has to win the SEC AND go 13-0 to get invited to the BCS Championship.

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I count 2002 & 2007 as UGA National Championships.

I don’t care if Kirk Herbstreit agrees with me.

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Bill, unfortunately, Yes. Along the same lines as your article; Dan Marino and Jim Kelly are great QB’s and nice guys, but they never won the SB. CMR needs some hardware, fast!

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“I believe that if Mark Richt were coaching at Alabama, he most likely would have won just as many national titles as Nick Saban.”

What have you been smoking?? I am a loyal Dawg fan, but there is no way Mark Richt is a better coach than Nick Saban. Does Nick Saban say “We don’t need no special teams coach” after his special teams cost him several games? Does Nick Saban keep a QB in a game even after the QB makes several costly turnovers, just because of “loyalty”. Does Nick Saban put up with prdictable play calling from his OC? Does Nick Saban ease up off the gas when he gets a comfortable lead?

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Boy you stepped right in that one. How about Chan Gailey? Programs? Miami, Louisville, Pitt, Texas, Ohio ST. How many more do you need?

Chan Gailey was a worse recruiter then CPJ and im not sure I would argue GT is a major program. Mack Brown has been at Texas for 14 years now and Ohio State just changed coaches for the first time in over 10 years and recruiting hasn’t dropped at all. Miami? Nope. Recruiting stayed solid with the transition to Shannon and the transition to Golden. Im not going to bother looking up Louisville and Pitt. Is that really the best you can do?

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This is like many things in life–success doesn’t always happen overnight. It took Dooley 16 years at the helm before he finished first, and Richt has had more top ten finishes. One of my favorite quotes is when Babe Ruth moved from pitcher to position player and one of the great players of his day pointed out that the move was a mistake–Ruth would never make it as a hitter. He was an expert and he was totally wrong. All it would take is a couple of NCs over the next 15 years and suddenly CMR will be the greatest coach ever. Maybe this is the year???? Also, judging him on wins alone is like saying the only way to evaluate a man is by how much money he makes. Not was he a good dad, husband, employee, & Christian. Richt has a lot of great qualities as a coach and a man. Glad we have him!

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I don’t care about any national championship.

As long as we beat Tech, Auburn, Florida,Tennesse and South Carolina I am a happy man.

The rest of the wins are just gravy.

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One more nugget of wisdom for you guys. Here are the top 5 teams in recruiting rankings for 10 years (2002-2011). Which one seems like the odd one out?

1. USC – 2 National titles.
2. UGA – No national titles or title game appearances.
3. Florida – 2 National Titles.
4. LSU – 2 National Titles.
5. Texas – 1 National title. 2 title game appearances.

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We measure coaches by national titles. Sorry but that’s just our mentality- a championship mentality. As for comparing Richt with coaches at places like TCU, Nevada, and Boise that don’t have the same talent base, facilities, or fan support its just laughable.

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I predict that my Dawgs win the NC this year!!!!

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“despise the notion that the only winners are the ones who win it all and that all the rest are losers.” Amen to that.

Here is my challenge to those on this board: Outside of the NC in football and men’s basketball, what greater accomplishment can one achieve in college athletics than to win an SEC football championshi

I submit that winning an SEC football championship is a tremendous accomplishment, and sometimes it is easier to win a NC than an SEC title.

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(LSU with 3 loses, UT’s blocked field goal against Bama) it does take a bit of luck to win a NC.

A couple corrections to make. No. 1 LSU had 2 losses that year- not 3. And those 2 losses were in triple OT on the road against teams that went bowling. As for Bama’s near loss to UT in 09 even if we had lost that game we still would have been no. 2 in the bcs after winning the sec and we would have played Texas for the national title anyway.

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For Frank Beamer to have not won a NC playing in that conference is the real eye opener. Well maybe not. I like the guy though…

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@Tide Rising

“LSU had 2 loses” – I stand corrected. It doesn’t matter if they were in OT. That helps make my point: It takes a little luck. With 2 loses in this conference, you normally don’t have a chance to make it to the SEC tiltle game, much less NC

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The Factor,

Yeah I like Beamer also. I just don’t think VT has the recruiting base or national appeal to consistently compete with sec programs. When we played them a few years ago the physical difference was enormous. We just ploughed right through them. As for LSU winning it in 07 I don’t really chalk it up as luck. Everyone had 2 losses except for the no. 1 team and to me it was clear that out of all the 2 loss teams that LSU was easily the most deserving team. Now I would agree that sometimes it really does take a little luck but I think most of the time they get it right in that the best 2 teams play for the title and it usually but not always because of luck. It certainly does take luck though often in terms of a favorable schedule and avoiding key injuries.

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“It is just a matter of time till he wins the crown.”
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Come on, CHDawg, if this were 2003, I would agree with you. Richt can’t get through a season without losing to an underdog. Think back: Since ‘05, Richt’s Dawgs have lost to Vandy, KY, SC, Colorado, Miss St, Central Florida, and gotten blown out by Bama, UF (twice), Boise St, and LSU.

Does that sound like “a matter of time” til he wins the Big Game?

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Anybody who doesn’t like Mark Richt is free to pull for a coach you like better. Most real Doggies support him and would not, I repeat, would not trade him for any of the above mentioned coaches. I am proud of Coach Richt and I’m not alone. He hasn’t won the big one yet, but CMR is a winner and a diamond in the rough. Only 16 coaches in the country have the continuity of an intact staff. It will make a difference in recruiting and play on the field. All you haters can whine and cry all you want, let’s just take it to the field. You got your coach, (congratulations) we’ve got ours…

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Obviously most years it is not, but it did happen just last season. So whether it is chic or not, it did happen.

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HA! HA! Right on, Old Dog Class Of 1980!
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“I believe that if Mark Richt were coaching at Alabama, he most likely would have won just as many national titles as Nick Saban.”

What have you been smoking?? I am a loyal Dawg fan, but there is no way Mark Richt is a better coach than Nick Saban. Does Nick Saban say “We don’t need no special teams coach” after his special teams cost him several games? Does Nick Saban keep a QB in a game even after the QB makes several costly turnovers, just because of “loyalty”. Does Nick Saban put up with prdictable play calling from his OC? Does Nick Saban ease up off the gas when he gets a comfortable lead?

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This is an interesting post, Bill. I agree with some other posters that Richt could have easily had two shots at a national championship already, but luck just wasn’t on our side. Not being a media darling certainly bumped the Dawgs out of the picture back in 2007, but they could just as easily become an ESPN poster boy with a few signature wins in 2012. The hunger sounds like it’s there, so here’s to hoping the big dog eats this season!

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Joey, 2nd, 3rd, 7th (twice), 10th, and several top twenty finishes. If you were evaluating a coach for 10+ years, you would say that is great. We could easily have done it in several of those years. I guess you would have given up on Dooley in the early 70’s? Richt has had higher finishes. Persevere Joey. This may be the year. It may not, but we should have a very competitive team.

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There is simply no comparison between UGA’s 2007 season and Bama’s 2011 season if you are being objective. First of all, there is the obvious fact that we lost 2 games that season and Bama only lose one in 2011. Secondly, we lost to a 6-6 team at home and lost the other in blowout fashion. Bama only lost to the #1 team in the nation last year by a field goal. Bama’s 2011 season does not prove that we should have been given a shot in 2007. That doesn’t fly.

If we had won even one of those games in 2007 this blog probably wouldn’t exist. Richt would have his national title. Who was going to beat us at the end of that season the way we were playing, LSU? LMAO. Their run defense was a joke at the end of that season. Ohio State? LMAO again. Marcus Howard would have had 12 sacks in that game. 2007 was there for the taking and Richt blew it. We shouldn’t have to wait until midway through the season to play to our potential. That’s not good coaching. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

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Scout.com, CHDawg. Also, Rivals.com ranked UGA # 2 in recruiting in the last decade.

Go back and look at my posts, we SHOULD have gotten in the Big Game, but we lost to a underdog, which kept us out.

Question – speaking of “competitive teams” – did 10-4 please you?

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Dawgfan, I think the comparison is valid. LSU lost to Kentucky and Arkansas in ‘07, and we lost to higher ranked teams in SC and TN. You are right, though, we really should have won it all that year. We can’t let up, and we have to take advantage of every opportunity. Somebody else said Bobo has a tendency to sit on leads trying to run the clock, and in the process he let’s opposing teams back in the game. He needs to pour on the heat till we are up by 40 this year.

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Joey, I was very pleased with some aspects of the ‘11 team. I was very disappointed in some of the play calling and the O line’s performance. The D did very well, and we improved tremendously throughout the year. Special teams were a disaster, and likely cost us at least one game. They were responsible for much of the LSU disaster. I was very pleased with how the Dawgs fought back. Overall, though, I think it positions us nicely for ‘12. The players knew they could play with anybody at the end of the year, but they lost, and they appear to be very hungry this year. That should help us win this year. I am very optimistic, but injuries, or weakness in key areas like the O line and special teams could cost us the crown. I think we will make a run for it, but I admit I am mainly hoping on the O line. We really have to wait and see what we have. If they are weak, we probably won’t win it all. I’m just saying, don’t give up right at the cusp of victory. You guys sound like Tokyo Rose. We are likely very, very strong this year, and if we don’t have key injuries or any more new suspensions, I think we can make a run.

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Ace
August 22nd, 2012
12:36 pm

“lsu could have won the SEC in 2007, and won all their games instead of losing 2, they didn’t, they shouldn’t have been able to leapfrog SEC Champ UGA.”

UGA was not the sec champion that year. LSU was. LSU defeated Tenn in the championship game by 10 pts. The same Tenn team that whacked Georgia 35-7 earlier in the season. And LSU beat the vols with the 2nd string LSU quarterback. Just another delusional dawg fan I guess.

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“I think few would argue we were the hottest and best team in the nation in 2007″

The hottest team is a matter of opinion and is mainly an opinion borne mainly by dawg fans. I think you forget that you guys barely eked by a Vandy team that fumbled the ball inside the UGA 10. If Vandy doesn’t fumble they win that game. And looking back on the 2nd half of the season Georgia’s “hot streak” wasn’t that impressive. You beat a Florida team that ended up 9-4 or 8-5 and was playing with an injured Tebow and missing 3 defensive lineman. The only real impressive win was over AU and that was it. As for beating Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl come on. Hawaii had no business being in a bcs bowl game and doesn’t field the kind of athletes than an sec or bcs conference does.

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Tide, it is all about how you tell the story. First, you exaggerated the Tennessee score, and you forgot to mention that Georgia beat the Kentucky team that whipped LSU that year. The Dawgs spanked the defending NCs(top ten at the time), and LSU barely got past them (Florida), and Georgia appeared to be getting stronger as the year went on. Georgia defeated other ranked SEC teams in Alabama and Auburn. I think you are distorting the picture. I think Georgia was the better team. However, last year I said Alabama was clearly the better team. You need to be objective in your discussion.

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tide rising

that is a feeble argument. Bama blocked a FG against a mediocre UT team. Florida blocked a FG against a mediocre SC team. Every team has close games that end up in the title game. Don;t try and say that every game is a blowout for the champion because they are not. Winning the close ones when you have a bad day makes you a champion

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Yes Bill. It’s all about the BCS Championship. I reckon 32 years is long enough to go without one.

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DawginLex

LOL….that was pretty brutal

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How can you homers even compare Mark Richt to Nick Saban? It is clear Saban is better. He walked in and won an NC in the time it takes Richt to put in his “Just for Men”. Richt isn’t terrible, but he is far from elite.

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1. USC – 2 National titles.
2. UGA – No national titles or title game appearances.
3. Florida – 2 National Titles.
4. LSU – 2 National Titles.
5. Texas – 1 National title. 2 title game appearances.
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Bob — Where is Bama @ on this list?
Saban is truly the Maestro!!!

Lex — Bama/UT is a rivalry game. You know this. Throw the records out.

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DawginLex damn I’m glad your on our side…..

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“Look at Gene C at Auburn. He won a title, but most will argue in years to come that it was Cam Newton that delivered the title.”

Same can be said of Vince Dooley and Herschell Walker.

My point is, coaching matters. Had Chizik not recruited Cam Newton, Cam Newton would not be where he is today.

Oh, and if it was all Cam, then explain all the other players on the team.

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Big Crimson 75

You DO realize Auburn won it all in 2010, right?

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Ace
August 22nd, 2012
2:31 pm

UGA has:
1) a coach that wins a higher % than Saban, Miles or Spurrier
2) the only team in the nation rated by Phil Steele as top 5 units at QB, RB, WR, DLINE, BL, DB
3) only has 1 top 10 team on the schedule
4) All other major conference foes play at least 3 top 10 teams

Georgia & Oregon are the only 2 teams that have top 10 great winningest coach + top 5 talent at 6 units, only schedule wise, play 1 top 10 team.

These are the 2 teams that will win it all.
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A split Title in the BCS Era?

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Big Crimson 75

You DO realize Auburn won it all in 2010, right?
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Yes, and………

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“Yes, and……”

Just noticed you left them out in your list of schools/championships.

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“So, who in the universe would honestly not pick UGA as pre-season #1 as far as the SEC goes?”

Everyone with a brain and common sense. UGA can’t even win their bowl games against cupcake teams like UCF.

Bama, LSU, Auburn etc all win their bowl games and championships.

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I’m fairly certain that was a response to GTBob’s list.

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Mark Richt is not coaching at some secondhand, poorly funded directional school but instead is coaching at one of the highest profile, wealthiest, and historical progams in the nation where top recruiting classes and stadium sellouts are givens…. SO YES, he MUST be judged on winning a national championship! He can be a respected coach without one, but how could he possibly compare to competitors that beat him head to head and have hoisted the trophy? When QBs are criticized for not winning Super Bowls, THAT can be a bit of a stretch because they are just one player, but coaches are a more natural place for big picture judgment.

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“we SHOULD have gotten in the Big Game

When? UGA hasn’t gone undefeated since Jimmy Carter left office.

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“Every team has close games that end up in the title game. Don;t try and say that every game is a blowout for the champion because they are not.”- DawginLex

Not quite sir. Usually you would be right but last year was an exception. Other than the regular season game between LSU and Alabama neither one of those 2 teams had a close game the entire season. Both blew out every opponent on their schedule. Bama’s closest game was a 27-11 win over Penn St. when PSU scored a td and 2 pt conversion in the waning moments. LSU didn’t really have any close games either.

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“If winning a Natl Champ made you a great coach, what happened to Gene C after Cam left?”

Uh, it’s called graduation/NFL draft. Auburn lost 33 players due to graduation and the draft. Kind of hard to win it all after you lose that much experience. Auburn will be just fine as they are closing in on yet another top 10 class.

Auburn was picked to have a losing season last year and still managed to go 8-5 and win their bowl game. Their defense will be MUCH better this year.

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“Other than the regular season game between LSU and Alabama neither one of those 2 teams had a close game the entire season. Both blew out every opponent on their schedule. ”

That is true.

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Thank you Ron Roberts for an intelligent, insightful post! (11:25 AM). In regards to comments about Richt having incredible talent, I think you have to give Richt and his staff credit for that. Getting good players to come, takes alot of work, but it gives you a better chance to win. Alot of things have to happen in order to win the NC. Alabama, for instance, got a chance to play for the NC last year, even though they didn’t win their conferance. UGA was not given that opportunity a few years back, even though I think they were, at least, as good as the two teams that played for it. It takes alot of skill, and some luck, to get to the big game, and win it.

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“Georgia beat by a larger margin than LSU”

It’s funny to see how pathetic dawg fans really are. You’re arguing what happened in 2007????

AGAIN:

UGA DID NOT WIN THEIR DIVISION.

UGA DID NOT WIN THE SEC TITLE.

Get over it.

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I have always equated 2004 Auburn and 2002 UGA as 2 teams that deserved title shots. Wouldn’t have mattered if we beat Florida that year, the ESPN boys already had OSU and Miami as the darlings. Same for Auburn in 2004. 2 future NFL running backs and an NFL QB don’t deserve a shot? Yes they did and so did 2002 UGA

both teams were kept out by cheaters

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“I have always equated 2004 Auburn and 2002 UGA as 2 teams that deserved title shots.”

Except for the fact that Auburn had a MUCH better team than the 2002 UGA team. Better offense and defense. Check the numbers if you don’t believe me.

Auburn beat 6 top 25 teams that year including one of them twice. Auburn also set an NFL draft record with players who went in the first round.

OH, and all of those players are still playing in the NFL.

The biggest difference between the two is that Auburn went undefeated. UGA not so much.

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Bill, YES IT’S ABOUT THE NATIONAL TITLE!!!!

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“I tried conversing with you in an adult way and you continue your smartalec responses.

You must have me mixed up with someone else, Lex. I don’t see ANY conversations between us before your meltdown.

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“ALABAMA DID NOT WIN THEIR DIVISION”

And they were still better than every other team in the country. Combined.

“ALABAMA DID NOT WIN THE SEC TITLE”

And they were still better than every other team in the country. Combined.

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“people like you who hate other teams so bad that they post a million lies on blogs all day.”

What did I lie about?

Million lies? Show me a million lies.

All day? I’ve been here all of maybe 30 mins.

Geez, you dawg fans are horrible with math and reading comprehension.

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“Go look in the mirror if you want to see a picture of pathetic.”

You’re in my mirror?

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But, the point is they were given a chance that other teams were not given.

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“But, the point is they were given a chance that other teams were not given.”

Like who? What teams were not given a chance?

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#1 amongst the losers. that’s the ranking I want for my coach.
like winning the NIT.

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@hyh??????

Dawg fans are going to have to get over the fact that they didn’t play for a title in 2002 or 2007. Trust me, I was there in 2004 when AU was left out and that really hurt. Why, because I watched the best team in the country stomp all over every opponent by the stellar defense.

The best way to get over it is by winning A national title. 2010 made me get over 2004, 1993 and 1983.

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“In my mind you have 2 bcs titles.”

I wish but that 04 team did help the SEC get first dibs in playing for the national title. Back then, people at ESPN laughed at the SEC. I remember Lee Corso saying that Auburn could not beat USC because USC beat them the year before. What a moronic comment that was. It’s like saying AU couldn’t beat Bama in 2010 because they lost in 2009.

The state of Alabama OWNS the college football world and has for 3 straight years. I will always pull for Bama and Auburn in bowl games/title games.

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Yep, Auburn has been cheated out of a NC, but they have also cheated to get one, so I guess it all worked out. lol

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“I’ve talked to MANY Bama fans who will admit that that 2004 squad had a better defense than the 2009 Bama championship team.”

That’s a tough one. Its close but statistically I think the 09 team was better. I do know that statistically the 2011 Alabama D was better than both and is probably the greatest Defense to have ever stepped on the field. They were no. 1 in all 4 major statistical categories and by a wide margin over everyone else.

Regarding 04 I think a retroactive rewarding of the title to AU would have been appropriate. I doubt it would have made anyone’s day at AU though. Kinda would take the luster off the trophy 7 years late.

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Huh, since you have come to a Georgia football fan blog, insulted our school and program, misrepresented discussions, and admitted you don’t know the identity of the person you see in the mirror, and you have chided us for living in the past, let’s talk about ‘12. How bad do you think your War Eagles will beat the “pathetic” Georgia Bulldogs in 12, and why?

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“Regarding 04 I think a retroactive rewarding of the title to AU would have been appropriate.”

No, if they didn’t play and win it then it should remain vacant.

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“since you have come to a Georgia football fan blog”

This is a blog about national championships and Auburn’s name has been brought up several times.

“insulted our school and program”

No, they do that to themselves every year.

“misrepresented discussions”

When and where? You keep saying that yet you can’t prove it.

“you have chided us for living in the past”

As have the rest of the SEC.

“How bad do you think your War Eagles will beat the “pathetic” Georgia Bulldogs in 12, and why?”

Your words, not mine. I do know that UGA will not be playing for a title game since they are incapable of beating a top ranked program.

Bama or LSU will again STOMP UGA.

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“So now Chdawg thinks that a 10 pt win over UK constitutes a whipping. ”

He also accused me of lying and misrepresenting a school yet has NOT provided ANY evidence. I really how he’s not a law student because whoever picks him as a lawyer will lose a lot of money.

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“UGA has gotten the talent. Ask Scout, Rivals, etc.”

Ok, first of all, do not reference Scout, Rivals, or ESPN recruiting “rankings” to try to prove any fact. All the recruiting services do is pick out which fan base will give them the most money to blow smoke up their arse

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What does it say about a football program like UGA when a GA native, Cam Newton, plays football at three other schools in three other states?

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@HUH????? it says that 2 out of the 3 schools have no standards…that was easy next question.

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HUH thinks Auburn is going to win a lot of games this year and calls us delusional.

Looking forward to seeing Jovon Robinson in the blue and orange

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

When that counselor admits she was paid directly by Auburn to change that grade, POOF!!!! Auburn is gone!!!!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That garbage story about his dad has changed twice now.

First, he was killed in an accident at work. Now, the Memphis PO-PO killed him. NCAA has got a permanent campsite in Memphis now.

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“so you think Junkyard Blawg is about Auburn football? ‘

I’m still waiting on your posts that showed I lied, ma’am.

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Well, here we are again. Another college football season about to get underway and as sure as the sun rises, the UGA writers are trotting out the same old & tired article about St. Markus Rectumus. This has gotten to be so predictable that one could almost set their watch by it.

Actually, you could almost use a “Gone with the Wind” type of analogy (with a little editorial re-write) to go along with the articles. On the one hand, you have a divided UGA fan base (played by Scarlett O’Hara); half of which are in love with him (Ashley Wilkes – played by Mark Richt) and the other half that pine away for another to take his place.

The tragic figure in this story is, of course, St. Mark. Never messing up so badly or enough times to be outright fired, but also never winning big enough or often enough to achieve the ultimate goal as a college football coach.

So, another year is upon us and 1980 is another year further in the past – “Gone with the Wind”

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“Looking forward to seeing Jovon Robinson in the blue and orange”

I’m looking forward to seeing Isaiah Crowell….oh wait.

See Lex, not only am I smarter than you, I can also one up you a whole lot better.

DREAM TEAM! WOOF WOOF

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SSIgator

I love it how UGA fans always mock other SEC schools that have actually won a title or two..or three. I can’t wait to see UF beat UGA and then watch as UGA fans cry in their trailer parks.

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“as usual this blog does nothing but open up the gates for more anti-UGA commentary and Richt bashing.”

More selective outrage from our resident UGA fans. Hey 83, before you go and get angry at Bill King, perhaps you should read some of the atrocious comments from your fellow dawg fans.

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Later loser

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“Later loser”

This is what I love about Lex. The guy always comes on the AJC sports blogs, calls other folks names and then usually cries to the moderator about someone else fighting back.

Lex is late for his job at Pizza Hut.

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@Tide Rising,

Everybody (ESPN, CBS & fans) I listened to wanted UGA/SCal in 2007 in the appropriate bowl match-up as the best two teams playing late in the season. If you deny this, well the debate stops due to your misguided partiality. I agree about your, “Hawaii, Come on!” Well, better to blow them out as they were the selected opponent than lay the egg like Bama did the next year with Utah.

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Sure, Mark Richt want to win a National Chanpionship, but he doesn’t want it enough to:

Fire or demote his friend Bobo.
Move a coach down or out to make room for a Special Teams coach.
Pull his “chosen one” QB out of a game after turnovers.
Refuse to use his “chosen one” place-kicker even when it is clear he has lost his mojo.
He didn’t REALLY want to fire Martinez, he would rather have just kept on with him.

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The Dawgs’ record shows that during Richt’s tenure they have been a solid second tier SEC team. He is not the same calibre as Saban or Spurrier at coaching. But the Dawgs must know and admit that Richt’s predecessors were not much better. VD had the great run with Herschel and company and was a solid winner, too, but there were other coaches that were better. Alabama and Florida have had their down years, too. It takes special talent at coaching to do what Spurrier and Saban have done at different schools.

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“Georgia just hasn’t signed a game changer like a Latimore, Tebow, or Newton.’

No, but I do remember UGA fans talking about how Eric Zier, Rodney Hampton, Isaiah Crowell etc would all be the next super star.

Don’t even pretend like that never happened.

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“We’ll see what Gene C does at Auburn.’

Chizik adapts to whatever is going on around him. Proof came in 2010 when he had to endure the entire sports media onslaught of negative stories and lies. Proof also comes when he has to share the state with Nick Saban.

Chizik has been apart of 3 undefeated teams and two national titles and has never lost in a bowl appearance with any team he’s been apart of.

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icedawg, just because Richt is better than previous coaches is no reason to settle for it now.

The only way I see Richt winning a crystal ball is the way Mack Brown and VD did waiting for a once and a lifetime talent.

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“Alabama and Florida have had their down years, too.”

As does every school. The difference is that those two schools go out and get top notch coaching to get them back to greatness.

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Huh, You can’t even keep track of what you have said! You started our exchange quoting my correction of Tide Rising on a fact. In it you called us “pathetic,” and you said that we were living in the past. I wasn’t living in the past; I was merely correcting Tide Rising’s lie/mistake. So that is two misrepresentations. You approved of Tide’s mistake on the UK score by quoting it, without correcting it, insinuating that I was the liar! You have added a number of other lies/misrepresentations. You said Boise State hasn’t gone undefeated recently, when they have gone undefeated twice in the last six seasons! I could go on, but it is pointless. You are absolutely obsessed with your hatred for UGA, so no matter what anybody says, you will change your id and repeat your attacks.

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It is pretty clear that Urban and Saban are in a league of their own in the nation not just the SEC. They are great coaches. Miles has built a good consistant program and got some luck to have his shot at the trophy. Gene is just lucky. He had a one man army to coach. Richt has had great teams when others in the conference were just better (Florida with Tebow for example). Right now we are not in a position to really challenge but we are better than we have been for the last few years.

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“but you won’t talk about Auburn football in ‘12!!”

Um, that’s because 2012 football hasn’t even started.

“you can leave the hate and insults in your purse with your mirror.”

Contradict much, ma’am?

“but how else could you see me in your mirror?”

It’s

called

sarcasm,

ma’am.

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Hides behind twenty blog handles and lies like barners do

Typical auburn toad

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Looks like Lex got fired from Pizza Hut again.

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Huh and BCS champs-same toad

There is a reason he remembers my posts because I am man enough to not hide from what I say

You on the other hand post under multiple idiotic names so you don’t have to own up

Wimp

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“Huh and BCS champs-same toad”

Again with the broken english.

“There is a reason he remembers my posts because I am man enough to not hide from what I say”

It’s hard not to remember your posts, Lex. I mean, not many people on the AJC sports blogs type as badly as you do.

“You on the other hand post under multiple idiotic names so you don’t have to own up”

If you’re so “manly” perhaps you’ll post your real name. I know that the name on your welfare card does not say DawginLex.

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Of course, every fan wants their team to win the National Championship. I’m no different.

But, my wish for the 2012-2013 season is for an SEC team (any one of them) to play Southern Cal in the National Championship and make that weasel Kiffen cry like a little b*&ch.

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“But, my wish for the 2012-2013 season is for an SEC team (any one of them) to play Southern Cal in the National Championship and make that weasel Kiffen cry like a little b*&ch.”

Amen.

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The Factor

I love hypocritical dawg fans, such as yourself.

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“To say he (Richt) hasn’t done “squat”, you show me now your history as an SEC fan is limited as titles in the SEC are reverant (we are 3rd in # of titles by the way, behind Bama and UT). ”

And what, two national championships to show for it.

“I suspect you never went to Auburn,”

And you can prove this how?

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@HUH??

No, I know the history of the SEC because I went to UGA and have great respect for all the programs, even the one out of the Sunshine State who think the conference started, conveniently, in 1990, without 1 SEC Title prior to that. UGA was in double digits by then..

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Jessie, lets put it this way. if Saban OR Spurrier had been coaching at UGA with the talent that has gone through Sanford Stadium either one of them would have won one or more National Titles. Richt couldn’t pick up either one of their jock straps. As the Bible says, “to whom much is given much is expected” Richt didn’t read the last part.

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Can you say great players for these two coaches (Walker and Manning) without them would they have won National Titles? No.

They would have been ranked as good coaches but not great.

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Huh, 65 messages on the AJC Georgia football blog in a three hour period is over 20 messages per hour, son. Have you finished your homework? Unless you want to be grounded, cut off the computer and get on your school work now!

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I’m not ignoring you, son! When your father gets home, he is going to turn your hindquarters orange and blue…dude. Now cut off Disney Channel AND that computer.

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GTBob. I’ve watched you post negative comments time after time for the past 2 years about Uga football or CMR. Seriously find a GT forum… I understand GT football is awful,but c’mon! Surely there has to be something somewhat entertaining going on in The Buzz world…If trolling negative comments constantly! Somehow makes you feel better about UGA’s dominance over this rivalry….seriously get a flippin life.

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BRING ON COLLEGE FOOTBALL AND COOL WEATHER

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CMR is a good coach he’s proven that. The question is whether CMR has a championship coaching staff even down to strength and condition, that to me is what has been one of the problems along with fair weather georgians just look at the state of LA and AL their kids dont leave there state to play their college ball ours always do just look at the last 7 to 9 years case in point how many guys in AJC super 11 are committed to UGA? the whole UGA Staff has to keep the instate talent in state period. Clemson is getting who they Bama always seem to get who they so does Florida if we can get back to keeping our kids instate like we did in Richt and staff did in his first 5 years i think you will see a more consistent program that will be able to compete for a NAT Title

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When Richt was at FSU, the power conference was the ACC where richt helped FSU finish in the top 5, 14x in a row.

As Richt shifted to the SEC, the power conference is now the SEC where Richt has led UGA to 6 top 10 finishes in the last 10 years.

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Richt has bigger concerns than winning a NC right not. Last year looks pretty good on paper but we lost aganist every really good team we faced and didn’t look any better in game 14 than game 1.

I do think this will be the deason we get back on track though. If we can’t beat the good teams with this defense and a 3 year starter at QB, when can we ?

Oh, the NC question. Of course Saban with 3 titles will always rate higher than Richt unless he wins at least 1 NC. Even if we win it this season Saban will rank ahead of not just Richt but any other active coach.

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This is great reading. I feel like I am watching the comedy channel . I love how Coach Richt is the next coming of Eddie Robinson. I was going to say Joe Paterno but I could not use those two in same sentence. 2nd place is for the first loser As long as Dog fans except 2nd, that’s where they will always be.

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The ACC was the power confernce during Richts tenure at FSU

LOL

Who was in the ACC in 90’s other than FSU

LOL

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Not talking about the nap but the tap.

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Dawg Nation should consider themselves lucky to have a man such as CMR running their program. This gentleman stands for everything that is good about college football. As a Gator fan yes I am happy to have three National Titles but the last two at what cost? Urban is nothing more than a hired gun as has been proved out he did not care about the program or the type of people he brought into it. You need proof how many arrests did we have during his tenure 36 I believe. Spurrier on the other hand geniuely cared about the University of Florida as Mr Richt cares about your beloved University of Georgia.
Had Coach Dooley never won his one title would you think less of him ? What if Bobby Bowden had never one a title would that make his career win total any less important. Some where along the line we have gotten our wires crossed making titles the only thing of importance. What about teaching these children to be quality young men future leaders. Both of my sons were lucky enough to play college ball one at a small D-I the other NAIA the coaches at these institutions wanted to win and did but more importantly they wanted quality people and my wife and I are so grateful they recieved quality educations and good careers after their playing days.
Maybe it’s just my age a different generation but I long for the days when there was not wall to wall coverage,twitter,facebook and even blogs such as this when the mantra at Florida was “wait til next year” So yes Richt with or without a championship is one of the best be grateful Georgia. Go Gators

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Yeah, Richt’s a real gem.

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Mike S.
August 22nd, 2012
12:17 pm

In 2007, Richt got voted down strictly because he didnt have a conference title. We all know its because UGA isnt a brand name in the polls.
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And there’s a good reason we’re not a brand name in the polls–our shameful OOC schedule year in and year out. To his credit, Damon Evans (before he got himself fired) was making an effort to “spread the UGA brand” by scheduling decent OOC teams home and home. Those games drew a lot of national attention. You’ll never see that out of the shortsighted McGarity, and thus the brand–and ultimately the team’s rankings–will suffer.

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You didn’t think playing #5 Boise State in the national kick off classic was a brand game?

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Tim Scott,

Good sport / fair analysis.

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Sign Richt to a lifetime contract. You know he deserves it.

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Maybe Richt realized a couple of years ago that he had underestimated the amount of work it takes to maintain a program capable of competing for championships. The jury’s out but the verdict won’t be in for a while yet. Richt isn’t and can’t be considered a great coach I don’t care what his winning percentage is. He’s struggling to regain respect among his peers, fanbase, and media.

Boise was a brand game, we stunk it up, weren’t prepared, and had no idea what to expect. They ambushed us, outplayed us, and embarassed us. Again, we haven’t won a “meaningful” game in years; how could you possibly compare him to the upper echelon coaches? Top recruiting classes every year, no results? UGA deserves a crystal trophy as much as anyone.

Back to my first sentence, this year will tell whether Richt has been reenergized. We need to be competetive, and compete for a championship IMO.

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Are you serious? UGA has beaten NOBODY that they should not have beaten since 2007 ! UGA is looking UP !!! at South Carolina !!! ??? and he’s a great coach? He is the Matt Ryan of head coaches: just good enough to keep but incapable of taking his team where it needs to/should be able to/ and would go under a coach capable of winning the tough games. Already saying less than a SEC championship is an OK year? If not now, when? I know Darth Saban is still in residence but are we going to start the year playing for second? If Bama steps back a little, we can’t coach with Les Miles and LSU step into the top spot !!!??? He’s a good recruiter but a great coach? Get real
As long as Richt is in Athens and the thugs continue to monopolize the headlines because he keeps bringing them in, UGA will be an 8-9 win team. Wonderful man, but not in the same universe with the elite coaches and not in the same league with the others without national championships, Ask yourself: would you not trade Richt for almost any of the major conference coaches listed who are without a national championship? I thought so.

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the dogs will win 10 games again and go to a good bowl–book it!

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All I care about is SEC titles – that’s won on the field. The entrants to the National Championship game are voted in – kinda like a beauty contest.

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banders1

So you’re saying the best of the best are playing in a beauty contest? That must mean UGA is one ugly chick.

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HUH????

Are you still on here spewing?

Aren’t you due at Jiffy Lube Bubba?

Did they put a computer down there under the cars where you drain the oil out?

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“Are you still on here spewing?”

You answered your own question, ma’am.

“Aren’t you due at Jiffy Lube Bubba?”

What’s Jiffy Lube Bubba?

“Did they put a computer down there under the cars where you drain the oil out?”

That’s no way to talk about your sister.

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Mobile Dawg, despite you trying to find a way to turn everything into a referendum on how sorry you think Coach Richt is doing, I never said anything about the Boise results.

My comment on that game was a direct refute of the idea posed by the gentleman that he McGarity doesnt believe in national exposure brand games.

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“those embarrassing losses are mounting up. ”

Not to mention that UGA hasn’t won a bowl game in quite some time now.

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Well, business as usual in Athens, a few wins here or there……let’s just party on!!!

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UGA was ripped off by politics in 2007, and would have won a national title with that team, but the political BCS committee did not allow UGA in, and chose OSU and Florida to play for the title.

Everyone can comment, attack, rebuke, or make any comments you want, but D1-A football is not a sport, because it does not have a playoff system. Everyone needs to read the book “Death to the BCS,” and you will lose so much respect for D1-A football, and understand the crux of D1-A football is marketing and making money, huge money.

The BCS and conference CZARS do not give a rats behind about the students, boosters or fans. All of these pre-season comments will amount to nothing, because there will be no real champion.

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Dawg8589 is dead on.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3138383&sportCat=ncf

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this is the year of the dogs–their D is loaded and they have the best RBs in the sEC. Dawgs win the east and beat lsu for the title! Dogs v. USC for the BCS!!!!

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http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Lab-tech-parties-with-escaped-monkeys/-/1637132/16224040/-/format/rss_2.0/-/12ybs92z/-/index.html

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“I lost my sister 3 months ago to cancer. Thanks for being a classless TROLL.”

Lex, you really are a piece of work. Not only are you ignorant, but you also have the nerve to think that that remark was really aimed at your real sister.

Grow up.

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“but D1-A football is not a sport, because it does not have a playoff system.”

Then I guess the NFL is not a sport because all of its players come from a non sport in college football.

Think McFly, think.

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if richt cheated like saban and miles and got all their talent, he would be winning the SEC almost every year.

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Re-read your headline.

Need not say more.

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Hard to know how evaluate current coaches. Just look at former most elite coaches at Penn St, Ohio St … Didn’ see their name mentioned. There are some clues that a few current coaches may be headed down that same path of winning at all cost and reporting to no one.

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Richto has a Dismal record vs ranked teams. His teams are 6-24 vs ranked teams since 2007.

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You don’t know D-I-T-T-L-E swat about UGA Bill Blawg !! No fan at ALL. Take that 80’s hat & shirt off Wall mart hadn’t sold it in years. It’s clear that you nothing good to say about Mark Richt or The bulldawg nation. Your are a fake. The first thing you are taught when playing ball is yesterday does not count against you today ! The next game is your first game of your life no matter what the out come was ! Let’s see how you & your so called dawg followers & fans react to the years to come ! It’s on ya’ll now, to late to cover your A ’s Just think after this year YOU will Be unemployed !!! LOL Better save some money I hear it doesn’t pay to good to cover T ball games !! I’ll go ahead & say it HA HA HA LET THE BIG DAWG EAT

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Here’s a stat for you: In the 15 year history of the BCS Championship Game, only one coach (Bowden) took more than 10 years to win a championship. Richt has been at UGA for 11 years.

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Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, two of the best QB’s in the NFL without a super bowl ring. Barry Sanders one of the best RB’s without a SB ring. Would have John Elway been concidered a great QB, without his two SB ring’s, in his last two season? There’s a lot of luck in winning it all.

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“I was impressed by the caliber of coaches who, like Richt, have not won a national championship. ”

And all of those coaches are average to good coaches. Not great. CMR is not, I repeat NOT, a great coach. He’s good and that’s fine but he will never amount to a Les Miles, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier or Gene Chizik in the SEC. All of those coaches won championships with their teams.

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What an absurd statement…Is it all about the national championship? Of course it is!

While its great to remember “Butler” in Ncaa hoops do you think for a minute that that defines success? Maybe a singular season…

What UGA expects is exceptional. A culmination of good seasons amounts to a good coach. Great coaches I think require a little luck and timing. I’ll be the first to admit I think we should have had one in ‘07, but got screwed on the system.

The knock on Richt is always the same. He hasn’t one the big one and doesn’t have a killer instinct. But in my mind he has put together 2 NC caliber teams. He has the right longterm mindset and is seeming to shore up the defensive side of the ball. I still can see him bringing home the hardware in the next 5 years, but I’ll be routing for the dawgs for the next 70!

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Every time someone starts their statement with – mark this down, expect it to be followed by something outrageously stupid.

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Then again, Bear Bryant only finished in the top 10 once in his first 15 seasons, Richt’s done it 6x in 11 seasons.

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Mark Richt’s 20 out of his last 25 seasons, his guys finished in the top 10 nationally, he’s without a doubt, the best coach in the country. name one other coach who can claim that in the history of the NCAA.

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EVALUATING CAM NEWTON AS A TIGHT END, AND HIS INEXCUSABLE FAILURE TO RECRUIT THE NEXT CAM NEWTON, ANTHONY JENNINGS, a friggin UGA legacy, doesn’t help much either.

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Altamaha, the blog topic was about Coach Richt, so, I thought my comments were on topic, and the results speak for themselves, Richt has underachieved with the talent he has had, the resources he’s had. I challenge you to disagree with me. I, like many other loyal Dawgs are “sick and tired” of hearing how great he is from the “kool aid krowd” that don’t want to hold him accountable for the job he’s done at the salary he’s paid. If and when Richt earns the accolades, I will give them.

As far as the Boise game you mentioned, I think I agreed with you, it was a brand game. I did tag on that “Richt tarnished our brand” with the performance. We’re supposed to be a top tier team in the premier conference in the land. Boise kicked our arse.

It’s worth repeating, maybe Richt has learned that you can’t win championships when you put a program on “autopilot”. It takes long hours, hard work, tough decisions, good decisions, support, and some luck. The old statement “the harder you work the luckier you get” applies. I hope he’s learned, but he’s got to show me, and a bunch of other Dawgs before he gets my support.

I will say this again too, the bar has been raised in the SEC, Richt has been “way” behind the power curve in getting his program to that level, Do you disagree with that?

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Richt is about the fifth best coach in the SEC behind Spurrier, Saban, Miles and Pinkel. It is what it is.

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Mobile Dawg -

“Richt has been “way” behind the power curve in getting his program to that level”
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Don’t despair. Word has it that St. Markus Rectumus is almost finished his studies of “Cutting Edge Football” that he signed up for.

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Richt will be forever ranked behind Meyer and Saban, period.

UGA – you have just been passed by South Carolina, and that is 100% attributable to coaching.

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I’m always amazed at how Bobo is always blamed for poor play calling and offensive strategy. Isn’t Coach Richt the head coach? Doesn’t he wear a headphone on game day? Doesn’t he have the authority to tell Coach Bobo to throw the ball to the tight end? Do you actually think that Bobo comes up with the offensive game plan by himself? Folks, Bobo ain’t the problem.

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Tide Roll – I hear you about the OL. I must admit to being confused, however, when I watch the NFL draft and our o-linemen are all getting drafted. Then I watch the NFL network, and see those folks bragging about how great Cordy Clenn is, etc. These linemen seem to be pretty good AFTER they leave UGA. Is this all abut coaching? Or is something else going on? I admit I have not figured it out.

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“Richt is about the fifth best coach in the SEC behind Spurrier, Saban, Miles and Pinkel. ”

Who is Pinkel? Is that Ray Finkels half-brother?

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“Richt will be forever ranked behind Meyer and Saban, period.

And Spurrier, Miles and Chizik.

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Yes…Yes…Yes. Can’t wait to hear all the excuses this year if he doesn’t do it. I could write an essay on all of the bonehead decisions he had made that cost us games, but last year’s bowl game sums it all up. There is no reason they should not at least play in the BCS title game this year. However, I’m sure there will be plenty if he doesn’t. He’s a good coach, but not a great one…yet.

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“You won’t like this blog as much anymore because I am leaving. When the guy who runs this blog tells me “adult conversation is not allowed” and won’t do anything about people like you absolutely ruining all discussions, it is time to move on.”

What’s funny about you is the fact that you call people names like idiot, moron etc and then you go crying to the moderator when someone throws it back at you.

“I would suggest to all reasonable posters that you do the same and abandon this sinking ship of a newspaper.”

Nah, you’ll be back in an hour or two after you stop pouting.

“I’m tired of arguing with idiots”

There’s the hypocrisy I was talking about. You act like you’re above something and then you go back to being the same child you really are. It’s almost as if you’re brain doesn’t function like an adult brain should.

“Congratulations to Bill King for allowing this nonsense to go on and not having the guts to do anything about it.”

If Bill King were to ban people he’d most likely have to ban you since you’ve called two the three bloggers, idiots and morons.

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68 players…NUFF SAID!!

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