Fan talk: Richt vs. Crowell, wayward tailbacks, armed Dawgs and Grantham’s future!

Yep.

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STUPID! But, i was once too

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I got a six pack of this from Winn Dixie in 1980. I have been ready to drink it for the next championship if we ever won it. How long you think this stuff will last?

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Young Brother,
You WILL play again but if your prints are on that weapon, you will need a good lawyer to minimize the time you will do. If u know whats good for you, you will enroll in your hometowns community college IMMEDIATELY and volunteer at a charity. Dont lie and let this scare the hell outta you. Dont throw it all away Zay. Think of your mom and what you WONT beable to do f(r her if u keep fkng up. Hoping this gets to you man..dammit Zay..u dun it this time..but God is a fair and just one. You will play again kid.

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Mark Richt is a dope. Mark Richt babies these clowns, and in return, they toy with him. This will NEVER change with Richt as coach. McGarity knows it, hence why the buyout of Richt aint so large. This doofus ain’t long for Athens, thank God.

FIRE MARK RICHT!!!

PROMOTE GRANTHAM AND GET THIS IDIOT RICHT OUT OF TOWN!!!

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Herschel, you are one slow dipstick!

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Someone asked about his twitter account:

https://twitter.com/iSAIAH_RIP_STEV

If there are any remorse or regrets comments in there, I couldn’t find them.

A rather clear answer to Jerry Doster”s question.

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UGA = the new Thug U. At least Miami won NC’s, all Georgia can do is win divisions via cupcake scheduling.

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SSIgator

June 30th, 2012
11:28 pm

I would need some sort of dictionary to understand that. Where is that type of dictionary sold?

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I too hope coach Grantham stays with the DOGS for good number of years. I am as big a supporter of coach Richt as there is, but I will give Grantham credit for our beloved BULLDOGS return to toughness…………….Crowell needed to go , Oline will do just fine this year, Murray will have his best year to date, DEFENSE will litterally destroy SEC offenses………………….And all will be well in DAWGLAND……………RED

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Losing Crowell won’t make this team any worse or any better than it might have been with him. The other isses with this team will far outweigh the Crowell effect. UGA has too many good athletes to lose to the weak teams on its schedule. It doesn’t have enough good coaching to beat the better, ranked teams. Nothing much will change that.

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OK, here we go again…high-profile athlete pulls enough bone-head crap to be dismissed from a SEC member institution…shows up at some JC (probably only having to actually be enrolled in classes for a couple of months.)…plays well and is ‘recruited’ (AKA bribed) to attend another member school…excells, hell, maybe even wins a Heisman and a NC and becomes a hero and/or starter t an Auburn or LSU. Basically, no penalty whatsoever, just like transferring and ’sitting out’ a year. What I’m saying is there should be, at least, a two-year suspension from the SEC. If they go someplace else, fine, but not the SEC.

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I think Richt dismissed Crowell because Crowell was on notice that if ANYTHING else happened that was do to questionable behavior or Character that he would be gone. Third strike and you are out.
I also think that Richt knows that there are at least 5 Tailback’s that have not committed yet and with an opening at Tailback to shore up our depth those recruit’s could see where they would get early playing time. Why postpone something that was inevitable ? Now our coaches can actually tell these recruit’s that Georgia need you and mean it.

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“…the same deficiencies that hampered Crowell in Athens will show up wherever he plays.”

He had those same deficiencies in high school.

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Josh Harvey Clemons Grandpa said I told you so….

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Glad Crowell is gone. He was an evil presence n the locker room.

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The kid was bad news from the begining.I think the minute he got to Athens he knew he was in the wrong place,and has been doing everything wrong since.It’s been said a lot in the last couple days,and I’ll say it again.Incredible talent,zero heart,zero morals,zero respect for anyone.Let’s move on with what we’ve got….GO DAWGS

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A couple of questions: Reading a few of his Twitter posts, how did Crowell EVER pass an English course, hs or college? How could our coaching staff been so clueless as to let this guy have teenage freshmen players out on the town at 3 am?

Well, one thing’s for sure, Richt got UGA back in the national media spotlight again – too bad it’s not football season yet.

The way Richt’s career is winding down, his legacy will wind up being that he led UGA to being a Miami-like Thug U, only without the titles. When he’s gone, folks will talk and write about the next coach having to “clean up the Bulldog program.”

Sad for him. Sadder for UGA.

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He had to go, he got to many chances last season. Hope he gets on track somewhere else. The TEAM will be better off without him.

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Do locals in Athens need to pack to protect themselves against gun-tot’n UGa FBplayers?

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As long as colleges recruit borderline retards with room temperature IQs, this will continue to happen. The only way to fix this problem is for the NCAA to require student athletes to apply and get accepted into college using the same criteria as every other student who walks through the door.

A lot of these so-called “five star” recruits have been pampered and catered to throughout their playing careers. Teachers and coaches at the high school level overlook bad behavior because they don’t want to jeopardize the game. When they get to college, it is expanded exponentially because there are millions of dollars riding on this young ADULT’S athletic performance.

They are provided tutors who spoonfeed them lessons. They have “class checkers” who make sure the idiots actually go to class. They have coaches, trainers, and other folks numbers programmed into their cellphones to call if they find themselves in a bad situation.

And they STILL get into trouble.

“You can’t fix stupid” quips comedian Ron White.

“Garbage in, Garbage out” sayeth the computer geeks…

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If this incident with Crowell Is’nt an indictment of our so-called educational system, then I don’t know what is. The young man has been coddled, taught not to respect authority (or himself for that matter) and to adopt the gangsta way of life. What a damn shame and a terrible waste.

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RxDawg– I agree that IC had a good chance of leading the sec in rushing, assuming our OL has learned how to block. Assuming he stayed healthy and out of the dawg house, both of which would have been highly suspect.

On another note, I agree that cmr had no choice but to cut his losses. Had this been IC first incident, it would have still been hard to accept what will likely be a federal weapons charge.

Finally, IC has made some horrendous decisions and possibly flushed any chance of playing for a big time D1 school. Let’s hope that 1) he has learned his lesson, and will make the most of what opportunities are available when all this is over 2) this sets and example for other athletes, not just at UGA, about decision making and consequences.

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….doesn’t matter, I dare say even Herschel Walker couldn’t run behind this pathetic O-line.

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“wind up being that he led UGA to being a Miami-like Thug U, only without the titles”

Ding, Ding, ding we have a winner…that was the thoughts going around…at least when Switzer’s commandos were rampaging thru Norman, Oklahoma was destroying teams on the field and then stomping one their faces.

UGA has Vandy success with thug attitude.

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My guess is that it was one of two things. The dismissal was a result of the last conversation Richt had with Crowell, and it was clear…more more “anything” and that’s it. OR Richt did have a chance to talk to Crowell yesterday and asked him what would happen if he had to pee in a cup.

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Nowhere in the 2nd amendment does it say anything about serial numbers or registration. Also, drugs should be legalized. We no longer live in a free society. It is a police state. I think it was a rush to judgement for CMR to kick IC off the team. From my perspective, IC was doing nothing wrong. Certainly nothing to warrant felony charges. Who is left anymore to fight unjust laws and injustice? Bobby Lee Cook, where are you?

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I saw an article yesterday that was putting out the idea that Crowell made a mistae coming to Georgia.Frankly the artical was a bit of a rambling nonsense that really had no certral point, But I have considered the same thing for actual reasons. Like it or not, UGA HAS these policies, and these boys need to go elsewhere if thats an issue for them.

Crowell does NOT get suspended for a quarter if he is late for tutoring class at some othe school. Not to say academics are not as important elsewhere I am sure they are, But it’s not a public suspension, and nobody even knows about it.

Is there any other school that would have purposely drug tested him before the Florida game just to teach him a lesson? We know for a fact there is not the same punishmente even if thay did so. Which is why they wouldnt have wasted the time to do it in the first place. Certainly it woudl ahve stayed behind closed doors. SO nobody knows about it, it didnt happen as far as public perception. SO most any othe school, Crowell with the exact same behavior, he is squeeky clean as far as the fans/public knows tilll Friday.

So tell me what school would dismiss him for his “first” publicized run of trouble for a gun under his seat?

Not to say I agree or disagree with our policies. We do seem to insist on bringing added embarrassment to ourselves. maybe its the right thing to do .And surely we can keep trying till we get 85 guys that buy in. But it is a fact, that its different rules at UGA, and we are going to have to deal with the concenquences.

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James Wilder Jr. serves 11 days in jail and is not expected to have any harsh punishment from HC Jimbo Fisher…. I agree with the above posts that Richt was told to dismiss him immediately. I think it was strange not to let the process work itself out though. Unless he is a moron why would he consent to a search of his vehicle if he knew the gun was there? I may have answered my own question.

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What should happen to a teammate and family member when he breaks an unjust law?

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The real harm in recreational drugs is the way they are injested. Inhaling smoke damages lung tissue whether it be cigarettes (legal drug) or marijuana (illegal drug). Same with cocaine. It damages sensitve tissue in the nasal cavity. Pot brownies, on the other hand, hurt no one. They actually benefit by putting extra fiber in an otherwise sugar filled, fat filled, caffeine (legal drug) filled treat.

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That’s a poor analogy, AltamahaDawg, and you know it.

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I do see one side of AltamahaDawg’s point that if you agree to the terms and one of the terms is to remain drug free, then so be it. Useless policy but it is what it is. However, I don’t think part of the agreement to be a student athlete is to give up your right to bear arms.

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If some changes are not made in the drug policy and the University doesn’t start taking care of the local police force, the backfield will continue to be a revolving door and ultimately populated with walk-on players.

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You guys heard of Duron Carter? Doesn’t matter how talented you if you don’t buy into the team. That’s how you win titles dogs; not blackouts…

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1. Decriminalize drugs
2. Decriminalize guns
3. If the NCAA requires drug testing, test once per year with the testing announced way in advance. Maybe even have a practice test that doesn’t count to make sure. Call it tutoring or something.
4. Hire some people who understand the cultural difference between a college town and the country or the inner city and can help guide or mentor these young men.
5. Remember these players are student athletes and not hired hands.

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Now I remember why I don’t post much here anymore…mods keep eating my posts!!

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Everybody out there over the age of 40 like me knows our parents and grandparents would be locked up today for “child abuse”.The school administrators can’t touch them either…You don’t think this makes a huge difference in their behavior?I’m sure state legislators had the right intent but these laws have produced a generation of spoiled brats…now they are about to become full fledged adult idiots.Society will suffer for taking away the power to discipline the youth!!

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The article is about how swiftly CMR dismissed Crowell. Then come the comments about how CMR is soft and coddles and babies his players. Absurd.

Isn’t the swiftness of the dismissal due mainly to the charges being felonies? UGA policy on felony charges is different than for other type arrests and charges. And, as has been noted, due to having previous dismissals and that he had those other guys with him…five of em packed into one car. He said the illegal Lugar was not his; we’ll see what a judge or jury has to say.

One thing we should do is remember he hasn’t been to court; he hasn’t been found guilty. Yes, he probably will be; but not yet.

I agree he should think strongly about enrolling immediately in a community or junior college; begin immediately to show he’s trying to get his life straightened out. Yep, Hargrove or other military-type school would seem to be ideal.

I agree that his actions sure seem stupid; considering the opportunities laid out before him. But, I wish him well and that he gets headed on the right path. Isaiah, almost two full years of college and your ‘tweets’ sound like someone with very minimal education. Remember, M. Vick wouldn’t listen to Arthur Blank…but now wishes he had. I hope you have someone to look up to and listen to; starting with your coaches at UGA. Best of luck young man.

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The kids just do not think. They get plenty of lectures and education on the rules. They have their heads elsewhere. Hope he turns it around. It is not so much the mistakes you make but what you learn from them.

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Looks like the filters are as overzealous as Athens law enforcement.

@mark, were you born ghey or did your mother not breast feed you?

You wouldn’t last a day in Rossville before someone would kick your smart azz.

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GT4EVER- Thanks for clarifying that your post was sincere. A tragedy occured AU, and I wasn’t sure how to interprept your post. My apologies. Unless I missed something, the fact that the AU victims were football players was not relevant to the shootings. They could have been swimmers, tennis players, or non-athletes. That is part of what led me to questioning if post was sincere or sarcasm. Again, my apologies.

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Lamar,
You are either an idiot or a liar…..or both. Ronnie Wilson did not shoot an AK-47 in a bar. He shot it up in the air in a parking lot late at night. He was immediately dismissed from the team. Don’t let the truth get in the way of your story, little boy.

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What is this fascination with Todd Grantham? He might be a “hot commodity” in Athens, but nobody else is offering him any coaching positions. He’s certainly not cut out to be a Head Coach — even at the High School level.

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Beast from the East.

Didn’t Wilson come back after his suspension and continue to play for the Gators AFTER shooting an AK-47 in a crowded parking lot? That was my understanding

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Nice to know my memory hasn’t failed me. Here is part of an article about the fact that Florida Gators actually allowed a guy who shot an automatic weapon to “scare” his intended vicitim. What IC did was wrong, stupid and wrong, but at least UGA gave him the “death penalty” of college football which is permantly kicking him off the team. That is really all they can do other than a tersley worded statement to go along with it. A year later, Wilson was back on the Gators

Gators offensive guard Ronnie Wilson was arrested in April of 2007 for firing an AK-47. According to Wilson, he did it because he wanted the intended victim to know what it felt like to be scared. Makes complete sense. Well, now, the 911 phone call that led to Wilson’s arrest has been released. You can actually hear a gunshot in the background as the guy makes an incredibly detailed 911 call. Why is this an issue a year later? Because Urban Meyer has allowed Wilson to rejoin the football team. Presumably he had to leave the AK-47 behind.

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“With or without Derrick Henry, Dawgs are stacked at running back”

11:23 am June 16, 2012, by Bill King

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What a difference two weeks makes

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Isaiah Crowell tweet (June 19, 2012): Made the Heisman watch list..now lets get to the MONEY!!!

I think that says it all. The money is the ONLY thing the jerk cared about.

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One of the worst words in the English language, in my mind, is ’squandered’…I’m having a hard time imagining this young man overcoming this – even with the examples of Cam Newton and Zack Mettenberger as a markers – and going down in history as one of the best (as in worst) examples. Perhaps he’ll learn something and somehow be better for it…but I doubt it…and ‘a talent squandered’ will be attached to his name forever.

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Think if the Dawgs had hired very good head football coaches instead of Goff, Donnen and Richt.
Three or four nationals championships?

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Rossville Bulldog- Step away from the b0ng and come out of your trailer in the woods. While I generally agree on de-criminalizatioin, what IC was charged with (whether it sticks or not) was SERIOUS. CMR did the right thing. We live in a country of laws, not lawlessness. If communities want to change, the members have to be willing to change.

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I really do not understand all of the Richt apologists comments. Sure he acted swiftly – to save his own rear end. Came out of Miami which invented the thug culture in the 80’s. Coached at FSU which perfected it in the 90’s under Bowden and Andrews. Then he comes to Athens and recruits the same type of player and everyone is surprised at the result? Time to wake up guys. The common denominator in this fiasco of fifty arrests is the coach. But hey, he really is a nice guy

UGA is fast approaching a crossroads where they will have to make a decision. Do they want a part time football coach/part time missionary to save souls at their school or do they want a full time football coach that they pay over $3,000,000 to do what he was hired to do. With the $$$ involved in this equation, I don’t think that will be a hard choice for the powers that be to make.

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One more point: these guys are growing up under the digital microscope in a totally new age, and now with tweets the whole world can read their teenaged conversations–full of them calling each other the N word and much worse. If I were a UGA coach, we would do regular tweet/facebook checks and anybody saying or posting something offensive, obscene, or inappropriate would be disciplined. That includes normal conversation.

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Best of luck to Crowell. I hope he gets his act together and get his head out of his a__ __! He had everything going for him at Georgia and he blew it. This is not the coaches fault he did what he did but be sure it was his and his only. I really feel sorry for his family.

I believe Georgia has recruited two runningbacks that are of quality character in Marshall and Gurley. Along with Malcome(who will be a star) and Samuels (extremely solid) and Harton (plays above his size) and now the two new guys it wll be a solid grop of backs.

I would like to know if the rnning back from Georgia Military College is coming to Georgia. He’s the track guy and looked pretty solid on video. This opens up a great opportunity for a great rnning back to chose Georgia.

Maybe the recruits that de-commited will see a golden opportunity and resign? Good job Coach Richt in doing the correct thing in this incident and many Georgia attendees, players and fans support you!

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I think the final straw that made Richt pull the plug on Crowell was being a bad influence on 3 of the new recruits that just got to Athens. Specifically I think Richt was extremely upset knowing Josh Harvey Clemons was raised to do the right thing with a very strong male influence and he is already running with someone,Crowell, that had zero parental guidance or a guardian who had a positive influence on him. If Crowell doesn’t think his actions aren’t a direct reflection on his mother and the way he was raised , then he is dumb.

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There may be “more” to this story that the public doesn’t know? Probably why CMR kicked-out the thug as fast as he did.

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@AltamahaDawg, I can understand if you’re one of those lawdawg law and order types, but I still don’t like what happened to IC in this case. And even if he did break a civil law, I would hope someone would stand up and defend him in this matter. I mean, really, Sanders Commings was accused of battery and allowed to stay on the team. Battery causes physical harm to someone. Excercising your 2nd amendment rights hurts no one.

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The one glaring weakness that CMR has shown time after time after time is the inability to properly judge character and the heart of players that he recruits. It is strange how none of these guys spurned GA to play at other major schools. However, there have been many great ones that got away, such as; Calvin Johnson and Eric Berry, just to name a couple. For many of these top athletes with stellar values, who had a great homelife, Richt just cannot close the deal. I believe he sells the parent (s) of the troubled that he can turn them around by sharing his religion and getting them into church, but for whatever reason, once they get to UGA, they are turned loose free to roam as they please. I am totally disgusted with this underachieving team. I wish the new president would come in and clean house. If McGarity don’t have the cahoona’s to take care of business right now, then get someone in who does. We need a game changer in Athens. We need a Nick Saban type to come in a put a stop to all of this BS, and get these guys focused on what they are there to do and that is to win championships. The current regime has proven time and time that they can’t get it done. They get kicked in recruiting every year by AL and FL, and they get out coached every year by any top 20 team they face. When was the last time we had a top 20 win? I am through with this team until some significant changes are made!!!! Think about last year’s bowl game and how we got manhandled by a bunch of slow creampuffs from the Big 10. UGA is a joke. The folks over in Bama and down in FL and up in TN are laughing their assess off at our sorry program!!!!! TN fans are doing exactly what I did when they had FULMER, and that is praying that they keep him (RICHT), just like I did before they finally came to their senses and got rid of FULMER.

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ha, or your 2nd.

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Gdawg weren’t you one of those folks saying Crowell was overrated in the first place?

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Tide Rising,
You may want to look back at the recruiting on Crowell. Nick Saban was whining because IC decided to go to UGA. Bama would sign him tomorrow if they thought they could. I hope your team can make it through the west (probably will be 2nd or even third this year since LSU and Arkansas are more experienced). Yep, LSU will be at the very least be using Mettenberger (former UGA player). I’d like nothing more for Bama to show up at the Dome in December.
It never ceases to amaze me at the number of UGA opponents who come on this site and talk crap about UGA. I guess this proves your school simply can’t educate you. Otherwise, you’d have a website for your individual schools and stay off this one. Not a chance!

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“It never ceases to amaze me at the number of UGA opponents who come on this site and talk crap about UGA.”

When a school has – within the space of three weeks – two professors arrested for crimes of moral turpitude and a player arrested on felony weapons charges, it deserves to be ridiculed. And let’s not forget those 50 arrests in four years.

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@Dawg Goneit….have to agree, Grantham not quite HC material right now; too emotional in the extreme. Great for a position coach…not so much for the head guy.

@Well Duh … you obviously don’t follow UGA football…except perhaps headlines.

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RossvilleDawg……….you can own 100 guns if you want to You can carry 100 guns in your car if you want to. As long as they are not concealed weapons! What is your point? You already have those rights. You say that weed and cocaine are less harmful than other subsances! You keep thinking that way and you are going to the “big house”! Know your rights and your responsiblities and you never get into trouble. Why is this so hard for some people?

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Saying that Crowell acts the way he does because of where he’s from is ignorance. Why or How can I say that?? Im from the same city he’s from and graduated from the same High School (a two years before him). And I have went off to college and graduated, and now currently working my master’s degree, so don’t blame it on the city, but on his bad decision making.

And also Jarvis Jones is from Columbus and graduated from the same HS so again those excuses are ignorance.

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Simple, Crowell you got a long way to go , he never was the starting tailback for Georgia so with that said we did not lose our starting tailback. we got a lot of Talent at tailack and we will not miss him. GO DAWGS

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Ed -

Were those not pearls of wisdom or what?

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Bottom line is that this is a blessing in disguise. I expect great things from Keith Marshall and Gurley. Both Kids are class acts and the total opposite of Crowell. I think Boo Malcolm’s improvement will be a big key for us too. I am just glad we have Buffalo first so that we have a game under our belts before Missouri. There is no reason we should lose to Missouri but there is a little worry with the way Murray throws costly picks and the Defense being gutted by suspensions.

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Darius—Well said. Individual accountability, taking responsibility for ones’ actions, making good decsions. All missing from today’s society. Best of luck to you.

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What makes you Dawg fans think any other SEC school wants the dumb a**

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Rossville Bulldog…..Illegal search, you say. It was a roadblock not a traffic stop. The police asked if they could search his car. He said yes. And in truth, a gun gives you the opportunity to disengage and call 911. He commited 2 felonies minding his own business. You pal, are clueless

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@dawgincarolina, it does not concern me in the least that the serial number was missing. Are all of your guns accounted for and registered with the proper authorities? Mine sure as hell are not. Someone mentioned the serial number missing is a sign it was stolen. Maybe so, but that doesn’t mean IC stole it. It probably means someone gave it to him as a gift. It would have been rude of him to refuse a gift like that. The best place for a gun in the car is a seat holster. The next best place is under the seat or in the glove box. If you put it on the dashboard in plain view, it will slide around and be a bother.

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ok Andy Taylor and Paddycakes. How is IC supposed to know that? He had a gun in the car in case he needed it and had no intention of using it unless he had to. How does driving home from a club equal a felony? Also, what was the roadblock for? Did someone escape from Athens-Clarke County Correctional? Was it a DUI roadblock? I’ll tell you what it was. It was a shakedown and a fishing expedition. Being a poor student athlete he did not have anythng to give and he probably didn’t know how to offer. I’m telling you, the UGAAA needs to give something to the Athens PD. These things can be handled other ways.

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How many players to you know that has gottent in trouble at UGA and transffered to Bama, Auburn and LSU.

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Ah, Mr. Crowell is tweeting again: “Only God can judge me, everybody make mistakes. Learn from it and move forward ..dats becoming a man..it feel good when you bounce back!”

Hey, Isabel, here’s a newsflash: if you add two numbers together and get the wrong answer, that’s a mistake. You didn’t get arrested for a mistake. You knew exactly what you were doing, you stupid punk.

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Dawgman, If kicking 4-5 star players off the team isn’t pretty stern discipline, what do you think will work?

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Yessireebob! College football today is just brimmed with dedicated scholars. Makes you feel good about all that money you send in to your alumni association, doesn’t it?

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Lordy mercy. we got grown men in here suggessting we fire our coach in July. Too funny. I guess when you ask a 19 yr old to carry your nutsack and it doesn’t work out, this is the type of emotional rants we can expect.

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Not suggesting he should be fired in July, but by mid December he should be out with anything less than an SEC Championship, or hard fought game to the finish that UGA could hang their hat on. Enough is enough.

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What does one have to do with the other? So THIS is so bad, BUT if he wins a SEC, it’s all good?

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Intellectual runts…Alt. Dawg, they think turning the program inside out right before will be good for the Dawgs. They are either mental midgets or trolls…

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Total BS to say that any coach would have kicked Crowell off the team after that SEC game. Nobody would have. Not one.

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You are right RTR, Alabama doesn’t have these problems. You would never have heard a word of trouble about Crowell if he had gone there.

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A random thought, about McGarity, Richt hasn’t demonstrated the stomach to make tough decisions to this point, he’s just to nice a guy.

Why not kick the kid off the team after he turns his back on his coach, on national television, after being suspended twice, with a poor work ethic, and on, and on, and on. Coach Richt enables the attitudes by not dealing with them.

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You see what his inability to handle a situation led to, we now have three or four additional players running around with Isiah. God forbid, if I found out I had cancer I wouldn’t want a Dr. to hug me, tell me he loves me. Cut me open and get it out, quick.

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Just like all of Richts decisions, to late. In case you didn’t know the role of the CEO, it’s his job to look into the future and anticipate problems and correct them before they create more problems. Richt hasn’t excelled here.

If you reread my post I said one didn’t have anything to do with the other.

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Most of the time you don’t change behaviors, spots on the dog. And I don’t sit around all summer contemplating what should have been done. The fact that this has happened though, pretty much justifies my position. As far as knowing what went on in that conversation nobody will probably ever know, IC turned his back and walked off while his coach was talking to him. In my world that said all I need to hear, without ever hearing a word. With his all of the aboves, that justifies a suspension at minimum, if not the boot.

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How ’bout them GT dorms?!

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It’s not our first blackeye and it won’t be our last. We will survive and make it to the football season where if we have a really good year, CMR will remain HC at UGA. If we fall flat, look for CMR to retire or move on. Many programs would love to have him. I think we will be fine, but we may need a curfew or something to reign-in the athletes bad choices. Every problem has a solution. Maybe McGarrity can help, maybe not. Time will tell…

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Some of you people are just moronic. Saying UGA is THUG like Miami with a record of Vandy? Really? Vandy has had like one barely winning season (7-6) in the last 30 years. UGA has won 10+ in seven out of the eleven seasons Richt has coached. Look how many teams can say that and then get back to me. There are truly only about 3 or 4 coaches that you could legitimately say are worthy of running your program over Richt in the country. Some of you so called “Dawg fans” can’t see that. You guys all have “the grass is greener” syndrome. Why can’t you appreciate that this team IS relevant. I don’t care what any knucklehead on this board says. Ask any real college football analyst and every one of them will tell you UGA is a great program. If you want to fire Richt and start over, going back to the 20 years of mediocrity after Dooley and before him then go right ahead. I’m glad he’s our coach. Our time will come, and it will be twice a sweet when it does.

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hey norcrossdawg,

Where did you get that 6-18 stat against the top 20? 12-16 is more accurate. If you’re going to disgrace and nay say your own team, at least get the facts right. Could we be better? Yes, but we’ve had a lot of turnover the last three seasons personel wise and in the coaching staff. I say 17 starters coming back on a team that won the East last year should have people optomistic. Stop being a bandwagon fan and hunker down. I don’t want to see you celebrating at mid season when we’re undefeated and ranked in the top 5.

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I can pretty much guarantee that the vast majority of the CMR haters never took one class at UGA. They don’t care much of anything about UGA…just UGA football.

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THUG-U!

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So, how’s that “Requeim For A Dream” Team thingy working out?

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Rossvlle Bulldog…….after reading your latest, you are misinformed and would commit 2felonies yourself. 1. It does not bother you to have a gun w/ an altered serial. 2. You would put your gun under your seat.without a concealed weaons permit. It may not concen you but it would mean something to your peers on the Grand Jury! Have at it pal, see you in the county lock-up. Just like in the military, 10% never get the memo!

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Mark need to get his players to upgrade their piece–packing a luger if something go down not gonna get it done.

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You guys nailed it. Great comments!

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A resounding yes. I’m pretty much a no nonsense guy, most things are black and white, cut and dry, with some occasional grey areas that require an expendature of thought and compassion. IC wouldn’t qualify under my roof.

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HEY BLAKE,,,check our part time HC/ part time mmissionary record versus teams that FINISHED RANKED in the top 20 since 2005 and u will see how terrible is it=EMBARRASSING…CMR heart is in the missionary,,not in the UGA program,,,GM missed his window to fire CMR LAST SEASON OR AFTERWARDS..July ‘12 is to late,,Band wagon fan,, I wish I could tell u my UGA story..I cant here..CMR is a great man,,,He needs to go and do his godly duties,,not coach a TOP 10 NATIONAL TEAM part time..Hell,,he just made a commitment to pay more attention to the program just a year or so ago, SAID BY HIS OWN WORDS HIMSELF,,I would of fired his tail that day when he said he was going to be more involved in the program=REALLY, LIke now,wow thanks CMR..CMR SAID THIS WINTER HOW ic has turned the corner and wil;l be a team leader,,really CMR,are you that bad of a judge of attitude, or more BS from a part time HC? CMR HAS BEEN OUT COACHED BY 8 CUPCAKE TEAMS over the last 8 yrs or so, and UGA always come back to win in the 4th quarter,,still was OUTCOACHED by div2 HC constantly! I will take any of the HC from all those cupcake teams as the next HC at UGA..YES,,THE GRASS IS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE..BLAKE, I WILL BE CHEERING THIS TEAM ON, IF we are not undefeated the whole season, CMR should be fired,,what a easy schedule..SELAH

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dawgincarolina,,QUIT DRINKING CMR KOOLAID! TERRIBLE RECORD VS FL,,embarrassing bowl record and effort..ALL CMR fault,,HE is the part time HC/part time MISSIONARY..Lets let him go do his GODLY calling,that is wonderful for a person, but NOT FOR A HC IN THE TOP 10 TEAMS PROGRAM! I WILL TAKE THE COACH OF THE REDCOAT BAND,,He has that band perfect and ready each game! I konw he could do better than CMR versus teams ranked in the top 20 at years end for dang sure(6-18)..dawgincarolina, u may even do a better job versus those teams than CMR has..He has been outcoached by many div2 schools and win in the 4th quarter only because of team depth and better talent!

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Norcross, Re-read my post. I call out the very topics that you do: record vs UF, record vs top 20, and recent bowl performance.

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dawg” I do see that,,and I agree…Its just that we need greener grass(no pun intended). UGA can do better with a different HC..A HC that is 110% committed to the football program,,not a part time HC..This isnt high school ball…CMR just needs to resign, go do his missionary projects,,We all will be proud and happy for him..Spurrior going to Honduras to teach the gospel in July, 60 days b4 a game,,or Saban, or madhatter? NEVER,, because they are 110% committed to their programs..CMR isnt, plain and simple…I have to leave now for work..go dawgs..SELAH

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Mobile, if you say that you were openly calling for the dismissal of Isaiah Crowell, because of your perceived exchange between him and the coach durring the CG, then I’ll believe you. I just don’t remember any such declaration at the time.

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A neat trivia question. Who was the last UGA Tailback to stay four or five years at Georgia and get a degree? I do not know.

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norcross

Hey, let’s bring back Vince Dooley. He had a great bowl record, better than Richt, er, well he never lost to Miami of Ohio in the Tangerine Bowl, er, well…. he must have been better, his kids did great in school, er, well Jan Kemp was insane, er, Pulpwood smith was a Rhodes Scholar, er, …. oh well

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Note to self:….don’t caps a typo.

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Everybody wanted Crowell. Anybody would have signed Crowell. We really needed Crowell, but Richt did the hard thing and let him go.

Conversely, when Ken Malcome QUIT the team, Richt handled that perfectly and now everybody is glad to have him.

Can’t really manage 2 bad situations much better, IMO.

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I can remember the High School I went to won the state championship. A few players on that team went to D1 colleges. I believe all of them got into trouble in college. It is sad to see the players back home. Waist of talent. I know alot of the players are young, I know alot of the players have smoked adn sold dope all of there life. Young kids just do not realize this is their opportunity in life. As Bobby Bowden said, ” There aren’t any father figures in alot of these kids homes.”

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If it makes ya feel better he wouldn’t have lasted one summer at Bama. Once word got out about his lazy work ethic I woulda canned his arse. Discipline folks. Its how you win championships. No one knows better than me and Bama fans about championships.

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KS
Funniest post I’ve read in a while, thanks…

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I feel sorry for Crowell and especially his Mother. He’s an immature kid that would have been really good, but messed up a great opportunity. Hopefully he will learn from this. I’m sure he play somewhere on a lower level. As for Richt, here we are 14 scholarships short before the season starts, this happens everly season. Just one more short coming with our Head coaches football philsophy. If we can win this year, will we ever win. I say tell give the job to Gramthan now before the misery sets in after another disappointing season.

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Why on earth, when we already paid for the inexperience of hiring a long time Coordinator from one of the top programs at the time, would we hire a guy with 2 years of college experience total, neither of which remotely proves he would be a successful head coach?

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Word is McGarity had a players meeting this morning and got on some azz. He is starting to feel some pressure as well.

UGA Football- Horrible offseason so far. CMR is out of town who knows where.

UGA Basketball- Not competitive with no end in sight.

UGA Baseball- Embarrassment for the talent on the team.

UGA Women’s Basketball- Once a national program can’t even beat Marist.

Get the picture???

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Yea, I am sure Greg McGarity wasn’t feeling any pressure from his job, till just now, because of this Crowell situation. Poor guy, the whole building in collapsing in the first week of July.

I’m sure he would feel better if he knew about Pittsburg’s secret playbook.

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We are who we were. All of us. Crowell’s behavior was predicable, in spite of the warnings and discipline he received from Coach Richt and others. He’s gotten away with it all of his football life and will probably continue to. He will end up at a school that will not only tolerate his behavior but will cover it up. There are many schools and coaches that will do just that. If that school happens to play and beat us, so what.

Those of you that subscribe to the win at all costs attitude have been bashing MR since he got here. Just think for a moment what you are saying.

You want your son or daughter to be taught that immoral behavior, lying and covering up illegal actions, all for the sake of winning, is how they should lead their lives? You would sacrifice your kid for a NC?

Come on, it’s a game, a short lived game. I want my kids, heck, all kids, to walk away from their college sport experience with positive memories and values that will give them the best opportunity possible to have rich fulfilling lives. That WILL NOT come from negative coaching, leadership, or teaching.

I have a tremendous respect for Mark Richt. He is a man of character, embracing and practicing christian principles. He does this through word and deed and applies them in a consistent and just manner to all of those around him, not just his football players.

Yes, I get frustrated with the play calling, the strategy and the use of players. But that is a different matter then what I’m talking about and has little if any relationship to cause and affect.

Nit pick if you must, split hairs, point out poor play calling (after the fact) and focus totally on the negative but understand this. Coach Rich’s goals are simple. His players will leave UGA with positive experiences, values and warm memories that will serve them a life time. And they will be WINNERS.

Unfortunately Crowell and those like him will not have such an ending, save the possibility of winning a few more games. Yes, he may make it to the NFL where his behavior will be more suited but his life will be….you know.

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Crowell tweet four days ago: “Ill never change on my ni**as and dats on my unborn SON”

[The asterisks are mine - Crowell uses the N-word in at least half of his posts]
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It sounds like he’s knocked up some girl. I guess Richt will ve recruiting Isaiah Junior in about 17 years.

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UGA Insider
I still think Mark Right can become a great coach. He just needs to start acting like a Head Coach and not like a youth church leader all the time. If that is the life style he is looking for he needs to quit coaching and go full time into working with the church or volunteer work. Being a great head coach is a lonely job because great Coordinators are not going to be around very long.Great Head Coaches will constantly be hiring Coordinators to replace their old Coordinator because they left for a better importunity.
Everybody knows there are 2 DGD’s that just haven’t been preforming their job and if they had they would have had so many job interviews by now they would have left on their own to be NFL coaches or Head Coaches at another College with a huge salary increase. Garner is suppose to be Recruiting Coordinator and coach of Defensive Linemen. I think he does a great job recruiting and coaching Defensive linemen but everything else is not very good. We need an energetic younger Recruiting Coordinator who can keep up with everything associated with recruits starting in their Freshmen year of High School. We don’t need to hear that Saban or Florida has been talking to them for over a year before we even make first contact.
The other failure is Mike Bobo. He was hired as Offensive Coordinator only a few years after he first became a coach. Very little proven worth as a coach. Over the years I think he has proven that he is a pretty good Quarterback coach but he has a lot of improving to do and is no where near the talent of some of the beat Quarterback coaches. Mike Bobo’s main worth is his ability to recruit in South Georgia. If you want to make him a Co- Recruiting Coordinator , I have no problem with that but from day one Offensive Coordinator has been so far over ahead of his coaching abilities it’s obvious to everyone willing to grade him being unbiased.
If Georgia doesn’t win at least 12 games this year they there is no way we can win more than 7 or 8 games next year because we will be losing so many great players to the draft. I agree that if CMR, Bobo, Garner and at least three of the coaches don’t start making decisions on what they know needs to happen and stop making decisions on emotions and what they hope will happen the new President will be looking to McGarity for answers.

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virginia dog – walking/driving around with unmarked Lugers is no way to help your “people” in their quest for equality. The absolute best way for anyone to be accepted by society is to consistently obey the rules of society. Just look at Isaiah’s tweets (or the tweets of MANY people, both black and white) – society WILL NOT welcome people that choose to act like a thug and I don’t care where he came from. This is not a Racial thing as thug white folks aren’t welcomed into mainstream society either. Anybody that comes from a rough background that is GIVEN an opportunity for a GREAT life and throws it away just doesn’t want to live a good life. Make a choice – keep living the thug life and be preapred for a hard life or DO THE RIGHT THING, LIVE BY THE RULES AND MAKE YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF YOUR FAMILY BETTER. If people say you are “selling out” SO WHAT!! It is your life and if others want to remain miserable, shunned from the mainstream then that is their problem. IT IS YOUR CHOICE.

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The Red & Black is reporting that Leonard Floyd qualified, but John Atkins did not….

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We OWN The Richt Cup!!!!

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Where are the players in all this? The leadership of Murray, Samuel, JJ, and a few others. And why would they let one guy mess it up for everyone else. Bible says, spare the rod, spoil the child. There are some pretty stern lessons learned, there’s nothing that says a Christian can’t be tough Coach Richt.

Alt, I didn’t call for his dismissal publicly. I don’t post all my thoughts, I would make a lot of enemies immediately if I did. Just like you’ve never heard me say “Richt should be fired”. My belief, he’s done less with more than most at this level. I don’t think he’s earned his paycheck for several years now. Unless he can really show something special this year, I’m on record as of now hoping he resigns, or is let go. Sometimes change just for the sake of change can be a good thing. I realize he’s a good man, and a popular one, that’s why it’s so tough. Bottom line is that it’s a business.

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Good lordy Mobile How much tougher could Coach Richt have been on Crowell in a short years time? Twice suspended him, for things that’s few coaches would even make public, (and as we know wouldnt have even been an issue at some places) and then kicked him off the team. And we have no idea what all he had to do internally in between all that. I have no idea what you are continuing to say he was too soft on this kid. It’s just not a factual or logical point.

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Crow Big

or

Crow Home

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wouldN”T be having a debate…….

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Filter keeps eating my posts.

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Insiders I know said in May they didn’t think Crowell would make it thru the summer….they were right.

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We disagree on a lot of avenues Altamaha, and agree on some. Richt tends to be to lenient to long. Don’t know whether IC has influenced these young Dawgs he had out barking with him at almost four in the morning or not, but had he been dismissed after the SECCG we wouldn’t be having this debate, would we?

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I didn’t hear it, I saw it, myself, didn’t believe he was even allowed to stay on the field at that point. Yes, if he clears his legal hurdles, and submits his ego to stay in school, participate in meetings, practices, and works his rear off during a redshirt year, my money would bet he’s matured to the point he’s ready to become a young man that can contribute and be part of a team. Seeing what I’ve seen of him, I say that it’s unlikely he can do that.

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Guess Crowell will be the one pumping gas instead of Alshon, yea?

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I’ve done it with family Alt, I think Saban would have done it, conversely, I don’t think a player would have ever gotten into that position with Nick Saban.

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ERRRRRR!!! We have agreed that kicking a guy off the team is the only thing you can do sometimes. But you did NOT kick a family member out of the family forthe equivalent of (what occured that day). Now the equivalent of what happened Friday morning, appearantly so. I would bet you any amount of money that some player(s) has taken a seat on the bench while being yelled at by Nich Saban, and was still on the team the very next day.

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I Loved Crowell! When Healthy He Was The TRUTH! If He Goes The JUCO Route And Comes Back To The SEC WATCH OUT! I See Him Attending AUBURN..Like Cam Newton…Its Close To Columbus So His Family Can Keep A Eye On Him….

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Maybe Spurrier is right after all regarding UGA.

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UGU sucks period not the place to be

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@ UGA Insider

Yeah he was talking the other day about how much of a joke this program is and that he did not know how they ended up in the SEC of all places

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@ Mobile Dawg

Maybe you can be the leader for this awful team. They need help. He will be fine. he will go to another program perform well then go to the Pros. Does not need that LAME uga program

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This could not have happended to a better football program

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@ Destin Dawg

I dont see anything special about the backs u listed earlier. Obviously you leave in Disney World when it comes to the Dogs.They are awful!!

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So… anyone taking bets on how many more arrests this summer? It’s beginning to look like the Richt Cup may be within UGA’s grasp this year.

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tim

This is the junkyard blawg

It’s a UGA blog

You can’t change that

go away little TROLL

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This stuff is not happening only at UGA. Someone posted a list of 43 SC players that have been arrested on Spurrier’s watch, including Stephen Garcia with 3. Talk about coddling- didn’t he get 5 suspensions with most only involving missing spring practice, etc.

Auburn’s Antonio Goodwin just got 15 years for home invasion with his 3 cohorts still awaiting trial. Michael Dyer is on record about drug use among players at Auburn. Their freshman QB arrested last week for public intoxication. Another running back kicked off for domestic violence.

I think the Gators under Urban racked up about 30 arrests. Did the Gator that was shooting a rifle even miss a game?

Arkansas has a huge lead in the Fulmer Cup with 68 points back in May. Conversely, when UGA won the FC they only had 21 points, less than the Tide did when they won it. Auburn set a record with 82 points in the Fulmer Cup.

Why don’t the other SEC teams man up and suspend players like UGA and UK on the first failed drug test? We never hear about how many at other schools failed until they do it twice. Do you think any other SEC school would drug test right after spring break?

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crowell brings a bad name to uga and the sec, shame he wasted that much talent

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Okay this is old news. What bag of laughs happened in Athens today. Surely it can’t be this dull.
Lets keep that laugh-o-meter running Dawgs.

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Maybe the AJC should start running a “Crowell Tweet of the Day.” You know, they could sift through all the dross and just print the cream of the crop.

Well, we needed some laughs, and Crowell the Buffoon is providing plenty of them.

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Don’t be naive -

Oh, goody. Another “my school is not as bad as your school” debate. What fun.

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Is it possible that Crowell is an extraterrestrial alien sent to Earth to create panic, chaos, and consternation as a prelude to an invasion by the alien armada, which – as we speak – may be only a few parsecs from Earth?

Or is he just an idiot from Earth?

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Saban doesn’t put up with this type of rif raf at alabama—georgia’s AD needs to call alabama for advice on how to recruit players with character.

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I betcha Crowell will wind up at one of the Pens in Alabama…Auburn or Alabama.

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Speaking of high and mighty, it makes me chuckle reading what all these Bama fans say as well. Just because your winning NC’s doesn’t mean you’re squeaky clean either. “Saban doesn’t take this riff raff”. Sure he doesn’t. Saban is a bigger Saint than Mark Richt. Keep kidding yourselves.

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Sure can’t understand it. You would have thought that Mark Richt giving Isaiah Crowell a “stern talking to” and a good finger-wagging would have really straightened that young man out.

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Blake Boy: If Crowell had gone to Bama he would have walked the walk during fall practice or he would have been gone. Bama would not have told him he was something special and how entitiled he was. Same kid, different enviorment, diffrent results.

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at usc, IC can be the man, a superstar! Spurrier will let him smoke all the weed he want if he put up the big #s—come to columbia IC—it’s yo time!

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HEY BILL,

With all of the negativity surrounding Georgia and specifically the tailback spot due to recent defections, I think it high time to put the spotlight on guys who have been the shining example of work and teammate. On this squad, you need look no further than Richard Samuel. This kid has done EVERYTHING asked of him. He has switched sides of the ball, positions on offense, provided leadership, and not once have you heard a complaint or been given the sense he is anything but a good kid. SPOTLIGHT THAT!

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I saw a post somewhere stating that Richt and McGarity got into it over the new contract. Cry me a river Richt, you barely , and I mean barely earned the right to return to your office at all after the egg you laid in the bowl game. You brought the thug Crowell to UGA, without checking out the character issues. There are people here in Columbus that could have easily helped you out with that. As far as I am concerned the POS asst. coach at Carver running his mouth on Facebook should be sued by UGA for defamation and slander.

Coach Richt, Bobo, and Grantham, I realize that what I say means squat to you, but the expectations for your 2012 season have not changed. The loss of Crowell is being seen by many who know as a HUGE blessing. Get the new guys ready to compete in the SEC, and everything should be fine. Coach Grantham, Cornelius Washington is making some REALLY stupid comments on social media, about how fans only show love when everything is rosey. YOU need to enlighten him, and any other players that have no regard for rules of UGA. He was arrested as well as I remember for DUI. He needs to be VERY thankful that he is still on the team. These young men are being given the opportunity that very few get just to don the Red and Black, not to mention the millions that top players like him and Crowell and the like would receive from NFL after a clean nosed career at UGA. I have a feeling that Ray Drew would relish the opportunity.

Quit crying Richt, and get this team ready to GATA!!!

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“Cornelius Washington is making some REALLY stupid comments on social media…”

Really? I’m surprised that Washington is sober enough to type anything.

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Jim Parry, This wasn’t about gun rights, dude. It was about an illegal weapon.

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Two Points: 1- I’m with dmr! How about Bill and Chip start covering some of our young men who are doing it right (most of them). We have some guys that all of us would love for our own kids to be like–great students, athletes, people! I have seen great articles on Burnette, Robinson, and many, many more in the past. 90% of the summer press seems to be on problems. 2 – We all hate this for IC, but the problem is that this event creates bad chemistry in and of itself. Some get mad at Crowell, some at the way he was treated, some at the hateful responses in blogs like this one. It is all negative for the ‘12 Dawgs. Everybody needs to wish IC the best, accept the fact that he is gone from UGA, and stop the bashing. We still have some strong talent at TB. ‘12 should still be a great year for the Georgia Bulldog football team.

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This whole thing is another black eye for UGA.

The sheer numbers of lawbreaking and rulebreaking by football players at UGA has become a phenomena. How big does the number have to get before it becomes proof that it ain’t just a coincidence?

Is 100 the magic number?

Well that’s certainly attainable, with 5 more years left on that contract.

Mobile Dawg, I wonder how long it would take for a Fortune 500 company board to just get tired of their brand being tarnished, by continuously making this kind of news, even if they liked the CEO?

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What about Bama also recruited him heavily don’t you fu*cktards understand? Saban went after him like you guys go after Saban’s used tampons. The kid was recruited by almost every school in the country. He was a bad egg and now he’s fried himself. End of story.

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Hey SSI gator how about death threats to a girlfriend? You gaytors seemed not to mind that too much.

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Red panties.

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July 3rd, 2012 – 10:10 am

Hey SSI gator how about death threats to a girlfriend? You gaytors seemed not to mind that too much
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I believe the article is about a UGA player, is it not? If you are interested in UF, here is a good link for you to start with http://www.gatorzone.com

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Mobile and just saying, you are right that I have no way of knowing about any contract issues between Richt and McGarity, and I honestly do not remember where I saw the post. I am not trying to stir up trouble, I am simply stating that the expectations for the 2012 season are the same, and I do not care how many media types would have you believe that Richt’s seat has cooled, just let him underachieve this season and see where it gets him. I do personally know some that are close to the program, and every single one of them wanted Richt gone after 2011. Richt is on a much shorter leash than many think. Personally, I hope to goodness that the Dawgs have a great year, and I am actually one who is on the optimistic side of things. Does everyone remember the first four or five years that Richt was in Athens how his strategies fell in line with relying on the defense, for example: When UGA won the coin toss, Richt ALWAYS deferred to second half. Lately, not so much. When I say relying on the defense, I do not mean leaving them on the field for two thirds of the game, hoping that they can somehow save the day after the offense has given the game away, I mean relying on the defense in a strategic way that no one has seen at UGA in several years. All of this being said, I would think that Richt would go back to coaching the way he did when he came to Georgia, and get back to the hard nosed type of play that the Dawgs displayed early in his career. I do not know anyone who has said anything about not liking Coach Richt, this is not the issue. The issue is that UGA and it’s supporters put forth way too much backing for so little return, and players who do not understand this, and want to run their mouths like Washington should have things explained to them in a straight forward manner.

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The fact that Richt comes from FSU and the player problems at UGA don’t stop is your answer. Expect more arrests, nothing has changed.

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Richt is in a tough spot SSI. He let things get to lax around Athens and paid the price. I believe he knows how to correct things but now he doesn’t have the luxury of time, there are wolves at every door. I also think he has some issues with backbone.

As far as Altamaha goes, I respect what he says, quite often he’s right. A lot of us react emotionally before we really see things clearly.

As far as you go, I can’t understand why you seem to be so obsessed with aggravating UGA fans daily, seems a little immature. You seem to be knowledgeable enough. Wish you were more like Beast, adding good substance and still maintaining a sense of comradarie. Every now and then you will post something that surprises me, makes me think someone hijacked your name.

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Yep, looks like Harrow is gone for good.

http://www.secrant.com/rant/p/34439327/Quintavious-Harrow-out-at-Georgia.aspx

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Was Crowell wearing his special red panties when when he was arrested? You know, the ones with the frilly lace.

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