Fan talk: Adding a ninth SEC game, Hines Ward, freshmen and more!

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Brian Stewart writes: I see a lot of gripe/debate going on about the SEC’s 6-1-1 schedule choice. I am all for preserving the Georgia-Auburn rivalry, but I also am a bit torn on whether or not I would be more in favor a 9-game conference schedule. On the one side, it would probably compare a lot better than this year’s home slate of games, replacing a Georgia Southern or Buffalo with another SEC team. On the other side, 9 conference games plus the rivalry with Tech would leave us very little wiggle room to fit in a tune-up during the season, and would pretty much destroy any hope of ever scheduling compelling out-of-conference games, like we tried to do with Ohio State. I’m curious as to what your thoughts are on these subjects?

My view on a nine-game conference schedule has been evolving, as someone once said. Originally, I was supportive of the stance the SEC coaches and athletic directors take: that adding a ninth game in what’s already college football’s toughest conference would be a strain on players and coaches and make it tougher to compete for the national championship. Plus it would mean in alternating years teams would have to play five of their nine conference games on the road. It also would be a problem for the three schools — Georgia, Florida and South Caroline — who have in-state nonconference rivals from BCS conferences. As long as the rivalry with Auburn was protected, I wasn’t too concerned with how often the Dogs saw other SEC West teams in Athens — which will be every 12 years under the eight-game (6-1-1) plan adopted by the conference this week. But I’m coming around to the arguments in favor of a nine-game schedule, namely that it would produce a more attractive overall schedule for the fans (one less cupcake), it would provide a stronger inventory of games for television (which should pay off financially) and it would put the conference in a stronger position if strength-of-schedule winds up figuring into how playoff teams are selected. With the eight-game schedule, the SEC is likely to come up short in that latter category. Of course, in big-time sports, the bottom line is usually the bottom line, and many observers think the SEC eventually will be forced to cave and overrule its coaches on playing a ninth game simply because the conference’s TV partners will demand it.

Walter Davison writes: Do you think Derrick Henry will honor his commitment and remain a Bulldog, or do you think he will sign with Alabama?

Well, Henry’s been a UGA commitment for nearly a year, but it’s not looking good. Alabama has put on a big recruiting push trying to flip him, and Henry’s comments have indicated he’s seriously looking at playing in Tuscaloosa. With Nick Saban’s success there, can you really blame him? I think perhaps the increasingly crowded tailback corps at Georgia, with the addition of Keith Marshall and Todd Gurley in addition to Isaiah Crowell, might be a factor in Henry reconsidering whether he wants to go to UGA.

Gerry Pinkston writes: I was surprised to read this week that Hines Ward had signed with NBC as a sportscaster. I thought the reason he was hanging out in Athens with Mike Bobo this spring was because he was thinking about a coaching career. I was really hoping Hines would wind up on the UGA staff. Our players could really use someone with his work ethic as a role model. What happened?

Hines Ward is getting his own Batman movie action figure. (McFarlane Toys)

Hines Ward is getting his own Batman movie action figure. (McFarlane Toys)

Ward may still be considering a coaching career, but he indicated all along that it was likely to be at least a couple of years down the road and that he’d probably wind up on TV first. Thanks to last year’s “Dancing With the Stars” victory and his upcoming appearance in “The Dark Knight Rises” Batman film (check out his latest action figure, decked out as one of the Gotham Rogues in the movie), Hines is a hot media commodity right now, and you can’t expect him not to explore that fully. If he does eventually decide that coaching is what he wants to do, UGA is likely to have a good shot at getting him.

Jim Weber writes: Hi Bill. As a Bulldog I am extremely upset by the contract offered to Mark [Richt]. Mark is one, if not the best, of the coaches in the SEC, but paid as the 6th highest best coach in the league. I am unhappy that the university decided to save the money knowing Mark and his family wanted to stay and decided they could extend his contract by adding years and incentives, but not real annual dollars. They are lucky that Mark is not a dollar-motivated individual. … Give Mark what he is worth — he should be at least the 4th highest paid coach in the SEC. … If you want a great coach, you better treat him as a great coach. Go Dawgs.

I don’t think anyone questions that Richt is a good man. But as I noted last week, Richt’s 2011 record, coming off a losing season, was good enough to get him off the hot seat and won him the much-needed contract extension, but wasn’t really good enough to win a pay raise. However, should Georgia live up to its advance billing this season, I’m sure the question of Richt’s compensation will be revisited.

David Harvey writes: As a huge Bulldog fan living in Louisville, KY, I just want to thank you for your Blawg. It keeps me up to date on all the happenings down there. Just one question: Our special teams have been horrible over the past few years, it’s cost us a few games. Just want to know are we ever gonna get one coach to coach these guys? The committee thing just seems to be not working. Again, thanks for all you do.

I appreciate it, David. Richt has indicated he’s not likely to add a full-time special teams coach as long as current NCAA limits on coaches remain in place. As the coach said last fall, “I looked at it. But what happens is, if you have a guy that does only special teams, all of the sudden you’re robbing a position from the offense or defense. You’d be shorthanded on one or the other. So I decided to continue on with what we’ve done since I’ve been here, splitting up the roles.” Richt has indicated, however, that much more emphasis is being put on special teams play this season and a lot more starters are going to wind up playing kickoffs and punts. But if special teams play continues to be a disaster this year, you’ve got to wonder whether Richt might not think again about changing how he approaches that aspect of the game.

Complicated new rules on student tickets are aimed at filling those empty seats at Sanford Stadium. (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

Complicated new rules on student tickets are aimed at filling those empty seats at Sanford Stadium. (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

On the subject of student tickets, I heard from a couple of seniors this week who aren’t happy with the decision to give freshmen priority at getting seats in order to try and fill some of those thousands of empty seats in the UGA student section at home games. Micah Shue writes: Hi Bill, I love the Blawg!! As a current senior at UGA I have gotten home season tickets for my first three years and haven’t missed a game yet. I love the Dawgs and cannot imagine skipping a home game. I have read some articles about freshmen now getting priority for tickets. Will this really happen? Is that really fair to seniors like me? I know that the student section is not full at most games, but I would be extremely angered if some freshman got full home tickets and I only got half.

And on the same subject, Shane Ward writes: Hello Mr. King, I’m soon to be a senior at the fine University of Georgia. I recently read over the new provisions the athletic department is proposing for student ticketing and frankly, I find the system to be completely unnecessary and unfair. Coming in in 2009, I’ve seen most of the changes that [UGA President Michael] Adams has implemented come into play and muck up my opportunity to enjoy my football experience to its fullest. Firstly, the suspension of tailgating on North Campus after my first year was effective, but I believe was too much (including the new addendum to the rules from this year). Simple fixes were never considered or voted on by the student body who should have had some sort of say on the decision. This brings me to my next point, the new ticketing policy proposed by the athletic board. It is simply too complicated and unfair to the seniors who have waited years just for a chance to get to go to all the games. This will be the first year where I will (hopefully) be able to get a Florida and SEC championship game. The new rules make it seem as though freshmen, being of new faces and more excited (which I don’t believe if you have met my friends), will show up to every game. This will not be the case as we will see next year. Simple fix, as I’ve seen mentioned on the AJC before, is go back to hard tickets. I understand there is the possibility of students profiting on tickets, but why does that matter so much to the athletic department? I am sorry this turned into a rant, but one last question. Is there anyway to contact the athletic department or [Greg] McGarity to have our voices heard or are we screwed?

As you’ve correctly noted, the thinking is that freshmen, who in recent years haven’t been able to get tickets to all home games, are likely to be more enthusiastic about actually attending the games than upperclassmen. And I agree with you that a return to hard tickets would solve most of the attendance problems. I also can certainly understand seniors being concerned about what this will do to their seniority. The plan, as outlined in The Red and Black, is pretty complicated and includes priority for post-season tickets being based on attendance at previous games and then on seniority. So the best thing seniors can do is make sure they attend every game they get a ticket for. In the meantime, if you want to let the athletic association know what you think, the main phone number is 706-542-9036 and you can email McGarity at ad@sports.uga.edu.

Terry Shirey Sr. writes: Several years ago, before I decided to stop contributing to the economy of Jacksonville each year, I was paired by the starter at a golf course in Jacksonville with the director of the UGA Band. In conversation I questioned him on the rationale for the band playing Wagner’s “Ride of the Valkyries” as an intro for the team. He responded that is was the selection of Jim Donnan. I asked him if Donnan was aware of the fact that the Valkyries were the handmaidens that escorted the “fallen warriors” to Vahalla in Wagner’s Operas? His response was that he didn’t debate many things with Donnan since the coach also wanted to move the band to that section that was used by the visiting bands because the visiting band could be heard better throughout the stadium. It intrigued me that a coach had the time to concern himself with the acoustics of Sanford Stadium (that may have been Donnan’s problem). It is true that the location of the visiting band (Section 101) is more desirable because it doesn’t have to travel over an open area to circle the stadium. The west end zone allows the music from the UGA band location to leave the stadium as it circles around but it really only affects those sitting in the visitor’s section. I applaud the movement of the band back to the student section if it does become a fact.

“Ride of the Valkyries”? This must be one of those repressed memories from the Donnan era that refuses to resurface for me. They must not have played that very long, because I don’t remember it and I asked half a dozen other veteran fans, including one former Redcoat, and they don’t remember it, either! As to your point about the band’s location, I think the move to the west end one wasn’t the best choice because of the proximity of the visiting band, but a return to the old spot in the student section isn’t great, either, because the band can’t be heard very well in much of the stadium. I think putting the Redcoats in the middle of the student section that’s in the east end zone would be the best solution.

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Scott

June 2nd, 2012
11:09 am

First! and fine blawg once again Mr. Bill

DawgNole

June 2nd, 2012
11:22 am

BILL KING: “. . . I’m coming around to the arguments in favor of a nine-game schedule, namely that it would produce a more attractive overall schedule for the fans (one less cupcake), it would provide a stronger inventory of games for television (which should pay off financially) and it would put the conference in a stronger position if strength-of-schedule winds up figuring into how playoff teams are selected. With the eight-game schedule, the SEC is likely to come up short in that latter category.”
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These are excellent reasons for switching to a 9-game SEC schedule, with the “one less cupcake” reason being the most valid.

Much better that you’re “coming around” late than never.

Paul Midler

June 2nd, 2012
11:24 am

Second. Yep yep…lol

Paul Midler

June 2nd, 2012
11:25 am

Well if I had taken the time to read the Blawg first I would be second.

Fridawg

June 2nd, 2012
11:29 am

Hey Bill, the east end zone is alumni seating. I’ve been there for 12 years. Don’t try to move us for the band, I love our seats!

SSIgator

June 2nd, 2012
11:35 am

“I was really hoping Hines would wind up on the UGA staff. Our players could really use someone with his work ethic as a role model.”

Exactly. He would be great at advising the UGA players what and what not to say to the police officer before they are put in the back of the patrol car.

Frosty Dawg

June 2nd, 2012
11:38 am

Bill: I’ve been in the 9 SEC games camp from the start, so welcome aboard the train. The question is: how do those of us who support that effort make our voices heard so that if and when the scheduling is revisited, the right thing is done? I certainly intend to keep contracting the UGA Athletic Department and the SEC offices, but it’s also very helpful if “megaphone” guys like you keep up the drumbeat on a frequent basis. You gave these excellent reasons for your change of heart: “it would produce a more attractive overall schedule for the fans (one less cupcake), it would provide a stronger inventory of games for television (which should pay off financially) and it would put the conference in a stronger position if strength-of-schedule winds up figuring into how playoff teams are selected. With the eight-game schedule, the SEC is likely to come up short in that latter category.” To those I will add: I’m aware of no objective analysis that supports the notion that playing a 9th SEC opponent endangers a shot at a title more than not doing so. In regard to the SEC title, all teams would play a 9 game schedule, so there’s no impact to odds of getting to Atlanta. In regard to the national title, it’s by no means automatic that the extra SEC game is riskier than scheduling Boise State, Oklahoma State, Ohio State, etc. It’s true that if we played Alabama next year rather than Buffalo, we’d have a tougher game, but I’m assuming (please God) that we won’t making a habit of 3 cupcakes (personally, I think 2 is too many).

The clincher for me is: good teams play good teams. You want to be challenged by the best. That’s what it’s all about. I understand that there are plenty of good teams in other conferences that we can schedule. But by making the game TRULY MATTER (as in re: the SEC title) and by having recurring match-ups (even if separated by a couple of years), we’ll increase the intensity and attractiveness of the SEC games.

Sugar Hill Dawg

June 2nd, 2012
11:59 am

As a former Redcoat and a member of a family of Redcoats that has been a part of that organization at different times over the past 50+ years, I have no idea what Mr. Shirey is talking about. 1) I can’t think of any time the band has played Ride of the Valkyries other than possibly a halftime show and 2) if he is talking about the same director I played under in the early 90s, I would be willing to bet the man never played a round of golf in his life.

ARdawg

June 2nd, 2012
12:09 pm

Bill,

To a team fit and ready to play, a nine game conference schedule even in the SEC won’t make any difference. It’s time to consider dropping the cupcakes anyway and play competition. I understand the first game of the season but, going forward after that should be a line up of the best possible teams. If you want to be the best, you must beat the best. Oh, why do we still schedule Tech?

Paul in NH

June 2nd, 2012
12:17 pm

UGA should have no problems with a 9 game conference schedule but they will have a hard time persuading Mike Slive or the ADs at MSU, Vandy, UT and UK. Replacing a guaranteed win against a directional school with a tough conference game would have meant that none of these schools would have gone to their last bowl games.

Wilson Pickett

June 2nd, 2012
12:27 pm

The 9 game deal is out due to the schools need that home game to pay the bills for all the other teams other than football and Basketball. Stop bashing the weak sister on the schedule for the give the team a break within the season. 99% of you never played a down of football and don’t understand your team can’t get up week after week for the best teams. Just buy the ticket enjoy the game and give it a rest. Better still sell the ticket watch on TV. You and all the other teams in the SEC have been playing little sister of the poor since the 50’s and that was done to give the players some rest as well as allow to build some depth over the season in order to be better the following year. You pay a team 500k to come give you a game and you make 6 million for it.

@ the guy that believes mark richt is a great coach….”you can’t be serious”.

kingdaddy

June 2nd, 2012
12:41 pm

Go to a 9 game SEC schedule and find out more about Special Teams. We have a lot of unanswered questions on a position that hurt us bad last year. Nobody want to talk much about it. Coach Richt always seems to give short statements with little substance. I’m worried that we won’t be prepared again this year. If CMR wants a N.C., he needs to address this from Day-1, and not wait until a loss to react. Address it before a loss and maybe there won’t be a loss…

SiddyBoy

June 2nd, 2012
12:41 pm

Why not go to a 13 game schedule then a 14, then play year round !!! That will solve lots of those pesky problems like over signing since every team will need 300 players in order to field a team.Instead of national signing day, we can can have national signing month every month. I’m obviously joking but conference expansion which is driven by the “all mighty” dollar is ruining CFB.Or is it the other way around?

Just Asking

June 2nd, 2012
12:41 pm

Coaches will not last long if they go to a 9 game schedule and you can forget about a perfect season by almost any team in almost any season. We proved two years ago that we need a tuneup game to get ready for the season. I think the 6-1-1 format is the right one. I just can’t understand Tennessee wanting to play Alabama every year?

chilidawg

June 2nd, 2012
12:53 pm

I disagree with CMR about a special teams coach. Something has to be done.

GTBob

June 2nd, 2012
1:15 pm

A 6-1-1 model is a joke. You guys really think its fair that over a 12 year stretch Tennessee has to play Alabama 12 times, Florida has to play LSU 12 times, and UGA only has to play each of those teams twice? Plus, dont you want to play those teams a little more frequently considering they are the top tier of the SEC? The whole lets play less good teams so we can win a championship thing is getting annoying. It seems like everyone is a bunch of cowards.

RHall55

June 2nd, 2012
1:23 pm

1) Keep an eye on Special Teams this year!! If they do not improve, then make a change!! 2) UGA needs to keep D Henry!! The excuse that UGA has too many top notch RB’s is not a good excuse!! AL has several young backs also plus (2) very good back committed!! 3) The only excuse is that if D Henry goes to AL is that UGA was outrecruited for his services!!!

Natureboy809

June 2nd, 2012
1:42 pm

Everyone who wants to add a 9th conference game is being selfish as a fan. Sure, it would make for one more big week, but the “cupcake games” are good for college football for a couple of reasons:
#1) Most of these cupcake schools depend on their mismatch games against schools like UGA to meet their athletic budgets. We seldom think of it like this, but some female soccer or tennis player got a scholarship to Coastal Carolina paid for by their game against UGA. Eliminate these games, and some of the athletic departments of these smaller schools will be greatly strained or even eliminated.
#2) It is great for the players of the cupcake teams to get to live out their dream of playing inside a big stadium in front of 90,000 fans.
#3) It is great for all of the walk ons and other guys who bust their tails in practice for years who never get to play to live out their dream of getting on the field in Sanford Stadium.

Natureboy809

June 2nd, 2012
1:56 pm

@ GTBob- you could argue that since the conference formed 2 divisions in 1992 that UGA’s permanent opponent, Auburn, has been the best program in the SEC West. But UGA isn’t crying about playing them every year like some of these other schools/coaches.

Fan

June 2nd, 2012
2:19 pm

I agree with everything Sugar Hill Dawg said. I’m a more recent Redcoat alum, and never once did we play Ride of the Valkeries. In fact, I cannot recall EVER hearing the band play that. Maybe Terry was thinking of Krypton instead? Granted my time was after the Donnan era, I knew the director(s) from that period fairly well – it’s hard to imagine Satterwhite or any of the others playing golf. Just don’t see it at all.

Also, Terry, THE WEST END ZONE IS A STUDENT SECTION, especially the areas immediately surrounding the band this year. That’s my biggest beef. It’s annoying hearing all the comments about the band moving out of the student section. They didn’t – they just moved to a different student section. There are 3 student sections – the WEST endzone, some of 100’s in the Northeast section, and some of the 300’s in the Northeast section as well. The most popular / intense area is definitely the 100’s in the northeast, but there are those other two areas as well. I think the only thing Terry was actually correct on is that the visiting band does in fact sit in section 101.

I’m still undecided on where the best area for the band really is, as everywhere has pros and cons. I do think though that if they kept the band in the west end zone over the next couple of seasons, then the “hard core” student fans would eventually migrate over to that section as well. Last year, I sat nearly everywhere from the 600’s to the field level bleachers in the east end zone, and the band sounded incredibly different from all the different angles. It’s all a matter of perspective.

Bill, what student section in the east end zone are you referencing? Unless they made some pretty recent changes, there is no student section in the east end zone that I’m aware of.

Paul in NH

June 2nd, 2012
2:21 pm

“you could argue that since the conference formed 2 divisions in 1992 that UGA’s permanent opponent, Auburn, has been the best program in the SEC West.”
SEC West division winners – Alabama 7, LSU 5, Auburn 4

dap01

June 2nd, 2012
3:06 pm

CMR’s answer for a special teams coach is lame and someone in the press should call him out. The special teams are poorly coached and poorly prepared. Almost all other colleges have more solid prepared special teams.

The problem is we have a “defensive tackles coach” who is the Asst. Head Coach. That is the wasted spot.

Does Henry’s girlfriend have the job at Alabama yet?

DawgNole

June 2nd, 2012
3:26 pm

Natureboy809
June 2nd, 2012
1:42 pm

Everyone who wants to add a 9th conference game is being selfish as a fan. Sure, it would make for one more big week, but the “cupcake games” are good for college football for a couple of reasons:
#1) Most of these cupcake schools depend on their mismatch games against schools like UGA to meet their athletic budgets. We seldom think of it like this, but some female soccer or tennis player got a scholarship to Coastal Carolina paid for by their game against UGA. Eliminate these games, and some of the athletic departments of these smaller schools will be greatly strained or even eliminated.
#2) It is great for the players of the cupcake teams to get to live out their dream of playing inside a big stadium in front of 90,000 fans.
#3) It is great for all of the walk ons and other guys who bust their tails in practice for years who never get to play to live out their dream of getting on the field in Sanford Stadium.
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In your ignorance, what you and other opponents of the 9-game SEC schedule conveniently overlook is that it STILL allows you to (shamelessly) schedule AT LEAST two cupcakes. In UGA’s case, it would be 9 SEC games, plus GT, plus two cupcakes. In the case of teams w/o an OOC rival game, it could be 9 SEC games plus three cupcakes.

How many cupcakes do you cowards want? It should be illegal for D-1 teams to buy victories. Period.

pj

June 2nd, 2012
3:27 pm

I do remember “ride of the Valkyries”. Donnan brought it over from Marshall and it went over like a lead balloon as was changed back to “Krypton” pretty quickly. Also – Students should be allowed to sell their tickets, plain and simple. This will be my 27th year going to games and not having a full student section is embarassing and negates the same racous home field advantage you see at Florida, LSU and Bama

ARdawg

June 2nd, 2012
3:34 pm

natureboy

GTBob has no argument. Only ramblings of a bitter old man. Watch him continue to insist that UGA has everything to do with the rivalries between TN/Bama and FL/LSU. He has no good sense left in him

ARdawg

June 2nd, 2012
3:36 pm

In 4 years from now, both LSU and Bama will not be the perennial powerhouse of the SEC. One might be but unlikely. Yet, those rivalries will continue, and should

Dirty Dawg

June 2nd, 2012
3:40 pm

The thing about ‘early, verbal’ commitments is that they don’t mean crap until signing day. If Alabama’s NC, combined with want appears to be a lot of depth at RB at Georgia, turns the kid’s head then so be it. Seems to me that if we go out and do what Mark Bradley’s saying we will, then let’s see how impressed the young man will be come next February, or whenever they finally commit.

As for special teams…what is there to it but athletes (AKA speed and strength), assignments (stay in your lanes, don’t get blocked and tackle the man with he ball) and practice (Spring, Summer and Fall)? I mean anybody with the title ‘Coach’ could do see to that.

Fan

June 2nd, 2012
3:42 pm

@ Paul in NH

…. “you could argue that since the conference formed 2 divisions in 1992 that UGA’s permanent opponent, Auburn, has been the best program in the SEC West.”
‘SEC West division winners – Alabama 7, LSU 5, Auburn 4′
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Overal records since 1992 – Alabama – 174-77-1. Auburn – 169-75-2. LSU – 166-80-1. Auburn has the fewest outright losses and more wins than LSU. If you factor Alabama’s 21 vacated victories from 2005-2007 into the equation, then Auburn has more wins than the other two as well.

So, yes, a case can be made that Auburn is the best team from the West since the two divisions were formed in 1992.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
3:45 pm

With 9 SEC games how can you Suspend all the Potheads for just 3 cupcake games?

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
3:46 pm

FAN what is UGa’s record since 1992?

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
3:47 pm

Fan Do all the SEC teams records since 92 and lets see where they all rank.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
3:48 pm

FAN………..better yet take only the SEC record of all the teams in the SEC since 92 forget OOC games and bowls.

Bill King

June 2nd, 2012
4:06 pm

Fan:

I thought one of the student sections spilled over into the east end zone. Even if it doesn’t, I think that end zone would be the best location for the band, as it would be closer to the main student section than the west end zone was, and would let the band be heard by more of the stadium.

Fan

June 2nd, 2012
4:12 pm

Kool-aid,

Put down the cup and look it up yourself. You can spin it anyway you want – take only the MNC’s into consideration, take only their head-to-head records into consideration, drop this, add that, etc., and you’d have different outcomes almost every time. All three are good teams. A logical argument could be made for any of them being the best in the west since ‘92. The point is, yes, an argument can be made for Auburn being the best (as can LSU or Alabama). You can pick the cup back up now.

Fan

June 2nd, 2012
4:41 pm

Bill:

Yeah, as far as I know, it doesn’t spill into the east end zone. However, putting the band there as you mentioned might work. It’d be good to have them back with the main student section and more of the stadium would probably hear them. I’d worry about the sound being lost out of the West end zone though, as that’s directly where their horns would be pointing. I do like them being in an endzone in general, as its easier to point the horns directly at the opposing players, messing with their snap counts and causing a delay of game (kinda funny to watch when it works).

I’d be intrigued to see them in the lower southwest corner (below the battle hymn soloist). The horns would be pointed directly at the main student section, and they’d still be bordering the west endzone student section. Hopefully more students would eventually flock to that side by the band. Plus, the home band would be in the same endzone, opposite corner as the visiting band, which could be intriguing. Heck, even the southeast corner could be interesting, as then they’re directly facing the visiting band – would make for some loud competition.

Horn direction is probably the biggest factor in hearing the band. Besides the “Hey Song,” the only time they really change horn directions is when they play glory to all four directions of the stadium after Krypton in the 4th quarter. Perhaps having them face a different direction than straight ahead during a few songs would help.

Lagdawg

June 2nd, 2012
5:36 pm

If Henry does flip to Ala., it will be because as of now, they deveolp RBs better than UGA. UGA doesn’t have a proven RB Coach or WR Coach and until CMR deceides to upgrade the offensive staff they will continue to underperform. I just hope Will Friend can get the OL to do its job because if they don’t learn to block, nothing will work and CWF and the rest of the Offensive staff need to go.The bottom line is when games and look like a dominant team and eveything will be alright. Time is out for this soft play on the field and it’s time to man up and be a top team every year. CMR got the contract he deserved. A lot of people feel like he did what he had to do to keep his job. Now if he can make this team into a powerhouse and make better decision hiring coaches, he will get top dollar. Win a NC and the pay will come. No matter what we say about Saban, he gets the job done. I vote for CTG to be the HC.

Same ol' same ol'

June 2nd, 2012
5:41 pm

I don’t think anyone questions that Richt is a good man.

Well, yes, actually, many people question this. Richt is a hypocritical sleazemonger who recruits punks and drunks, and his very un-saintliness is showing badly. And he’s a third-rate coach at best, truth be told.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
5:44 pm

BOBO is the best investment according to the other SEC coaches.

Flo-Ri-Duh

June 2nd, 2012
5:51 pm

Bummers depth chart at RB will be even more congested than UGA’s. Henry will be the big power back UGA needs. Bummer will have Hart Yeldin returning and both are big powerful talented RBs. Samuels is graduating for UGA. Henry will have a chance be in the rotation as a freshman. If UGA wins the SEC Henry will stick with them and he may anyway. There is a long time to signing day and the success of the coming season will persuade a lot of recruits pf where to go.

K-Baby

June 2nd, 2012
5:53 pm

As a former Redcoat (’78 – ‘83), I think the placement of the band should be on the other side of the student section from where they (we) used to be to place them in the northeast corner of the stadium. They should also be higher up in the stadium for better sound projection, possibly placing the sousaphones near the top row of the lower section and going down from there. I remember back in the day that the Tennessee and Kentucky bands were higher up in their home stadiums and could be heard better than we were at Sanford.

Also, bring back the ELECTRIC SQUAD! (electric bass, rhythm guitar and trap set) I believe it was eliminated due to being considered too loud years ago. However, with the atrocious piped in music now played, it shouldn’t be an issue anymore. That always helped the band to be heard better.

And it would help if the athletic department would stop dictating what the band plays (as has been discussed on the blog before) – - leave the music selection to the experts.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
5:56 pm

It is FOOTBALL Who cares where the freaking band sits.

K-Baby

June 2nd, 2012
6:06 pm

Still – where the band sits is important. Just look at what happened at the Tech game in ‘79. We played Glory 77 times and disrupted the Tech offense repeatedly. The announcers at halftime said the most important factor in the game “both offensively and defensively, was the Redcoat Band”.

The band is a huge part of the FOOTBALL EXPERIENCE.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
6:11 pm

I guess why that is No Music is allowed during play. Who cares about the band geeks? Most people go to the bathroom and concession stand at half time.

K-Baby

June 2nd, 2012
6:25 pm

Still – go crawl back into your mama’s basement.

Dawg Goneit

June 2nd, 2012
6:31 pm

Eight is Enough

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
6:38 pm

8 is enough for Chickens that feel the need pay for 3 or 4 easy OOC wins plus a Vandy(e) or Ole Miss(w) win.

K-Baby

June 2nd, 2012
6:38 pm

Dawg Goneit – I agree. Eight conference games are enough. However, I would like to see maybe Clemson replace one of the cupcakes on an annual basis. Also, am okay with GA Southern since they are in process of going to FBS in about eight years. It is another natural rival.

Paul in NH

June 2nd, 2012
8:14 pm

@Fan
You could make a case that Auburn has been the best team in the west since 1992 but most people would think that division championships define the best team in the division.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
9:17 pm

SEC best teams since Divisions

Florida 198-59
Tenn 179-75
Bama 174-77-1
UGa 173-75-1
Auburn 169-75-2
LSU 166-80-1
Arkie 138-101-2

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
9:19 pm

SEC best teams since Divisions

Florida 198-59……….MNC
Tenn 179-75………….MNC
Bama 174-77-1…….MNC
UGa 173-75-1
Auburn 169-75-2……MNC
LSU 166-80-1……….MNC
Arkie 138-101-2

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
9:29 pm

UGa doing less with more since 1984

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
9:31 pm

Need to Steal 2nd before we get any outs.

Der Blau Engel

June 2nd, 2012
9:34 pm

Buh bye to the leg humpers.

Send in the clowns…

June 2nd, 2012
9:37 pm

I think the circus is hiring clowns if Ward needs another job.

Maybe they would hire Richt, too.

Dawg Bite

June 2nd, 2012
9:52 pm

Play all conference games. UGA is not going to win the MNC as long as CMR is there anyway.Oh yeh, only eleven, gotta play GAT. Who the heck cares if a tennis player at Coastal Carolina gets a scholarship, not our problem!

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 2nd, 2012
10:14 pm

Make is 6-1-3 and your are already prepared for when you get 16 teams. that leaves 1 Cupcake and one Hard OOC or State Rival. The Fans actually get their monies worth. make the Florida game H-n-H screw JAX every year. EZ cupcake to start the season so you have a game all the suspended players can miss and it shouldn’t matter.

Lakedawg

June 2nd, 2012
10:14 pm

Bill, you cannot be serious about a nine game schedule if you are a true Dawg fan.

Do you really want to have the disadvantage of in 9 games, the most that Dawgs could get at home is 4 under any scenario. 4 home 5 away every year or possibly 3 home 6 away, how the heck is that fair in anyway at all.

Just look at this year 3 home SEC games. Do not think you and other Dawg fans really want to put us at such a disadvantage. Do a little thinking before writing an article advocating something creating a disadvantage man.

Now if you can get Florida out of Florida every other year than 9 games becomes more meaningful.
Have made my last trip to a road game with 60% gators and 40% Dawgs every year, I want then ub Stanford.

Just extend you schedule and see what you get before asking for something you have not thought through.

Lakedawg

June 2nd, 2012
10:16 pm

First time I have ever agreed with the drunk bar guy, but yes s_____ Jacksonville.

THE Dixie Redcoat Band

June 2nd, 2012
11:55 pm

Nobody leaves at halftime when Script Ohio is performed. Even at The Big House, the UM folks stick around to boo. But then, The Big House will boo everything the USA flag.

RED DOG 77

June 3rd, 2012
12:48 am

@ARdawg 3:36pm, 6/2………………….Well put, well put indeed !

TROLL PATROLL

June 3rd, 2012
3:11 am

bills sniffers drinkin at the coolaid canteen kiosk! what a show! Bill this is no reflection on your fine views…just the same 4 bama and dawg malcontents greasin up with their antics. Good post Bill.

tell me again

June 3rd, 2012
6:51 am

K Baby – I was in the Redcoat band during your time there – I don’t think we were allowed to play during either teams offensive plays…..doing so would have been flagged as a penalty. We did shout a lot during the other teams plays though ~ and with those thick, heavy uniforms we sweat a lot too! And yes, bring the electric squad back! I was there when Gary Teski was director and Roger Dance, God rest his soul, was overall director.

Joey

June 3rd, 2012
8:58 am

Jim Weber, if you feel so strongly that Richt is underpaid, you could always send him a monthly check for the difference, then you wouldn’t be “unhappy,” and we would have to read such idiocy.

So what if he is the 6th-highest paid coach – name me 6 coaches in the league that Richt has outcoached. When has Richt beat a SEC team that was a favorite? Auburn in ‘07?

Can you name me 6 SEC coaches who have lost their last 2 bowl games?

Since ‘02, and ‘05 were so long ago, maybe 6th best paid in the league is about right . . .

evil empire

June 3rd, 2012
9:06 am

who knew uga even had a band….all i ever hear is piped-in music at sanford and son…p.s…dump tech…

Joey

June 3rd, 2012
9:12 am

“In 4 years from now, both LSU and Bama will not be the perennial powerhouse of the SEC”
*********************************************************
ARdawg, I think if Saban’s still at Bama, and LSU can keep Chavis as DC, they will stay at the top of the SEC.

Miles and Saban are great recruiters, and both have excellent assistants from top to bottom.

K-Baby

June 3rd, 2012
9:20 am

Tell Me Again: We were allowed to play at the Tech game because they were independent back then. They had not yet joined the ACC. You are correct that we were not allowed to play during snaps for conference games, but all bets were off with non-conference opponents.

Roger Dancz was one of the good guys in life.

THE Dixie Redcoat Band

June 3rd, 2012
9:28 am

Roger Dancz was indeed a good guy. He was our band intern in Florida before joining the Dixie Redcoats. And yes, the stadiums are doing away with live band music…sad.

Neutral

June 3rd, 2012
9:32 am

@Still…… (last night at 9:19)

Interesting stats. You and others like to put down the “east” side of the SEC conference, but from your stats the 3 big rivals (Aub/UGa, TN/AL and FL/LSU)…..the east teams all have better records compared to their west rivals. Thanks for clarifying that the east is HISTORICALLY the toughest side of the conference…..even though that has not been the case recently.

Jborodawg

June 3rd, 2012
11:13 am

@Bill King, “…the increasingly crowded tailback corps at Georgia…might be a factor in Henry reconsidering whether he wants to go to UGA…” I almost LOL. You don’t think Bama has a bevy of highly rated RBs?

I agree with the arguments for a nine game sked. The argument against is also compelling. For one thing, there will be few if any undefeated SEC teams. Not many one-loss teams play for the NC; near-impossible for a two-loss team. Adding Mizzou and T A&M really opened a can of worms. Plus, I doubt UGA will sell out our allotment to those away games.

Which brings up the new Big 12-SEC bowl game. The ten team Big 12 doesn’t beat each other up with a conference championship game. I’m all for the bowl game itself, but the Big 12 team will be quite a bit more rested and less banged up.

Lot of griping about UGA ’skirting’ Bama, LSU, and Arky. But it wasn’t that long ago that Tenn and Fla were just as tough or perennial top 5 or 10. It’s the ol’ cycle thing. See @Still above.

You didn’t bring up the BCS and the four team playoff, but… One thing they MUST get rid of is the coaches pole. Coaches see film of their opponents, almost exclusively. They might have some intel on other teams in their conference or maybe watch a game or two of #1 ranked teams, etc. But the vast majority have no idea about most teams in the top 20. Many of them let someone on their staff vote for them. Coming up with a (fair) selection committee is gonna be tough; but it’s probably the way to go. The BCS computer model needs remodeling too; and hopefully that is in the works. But, the coaches pole must go.

Pitbull

June 3rd, 2012
11:25 am

I say drop the Tech game and add a 10th SEC matchup.

All we really accomplish by playing Tech is to help them fund their athletic department.

KJ

June 3rd, 2012
11:26 am

I see the usual assortment of pathetic trolls has nothing better to do on a weekend, yet again. Sick life.

kingdaddy

June 3rd, 2012
11:32 am

KJ
If you don’t like weekend bloggers, why are you blogging again??

Rubber Neck

June 3rd, 2012
12:52 pm

The Derrick Henry rationale makes little sense. Their backfield is just as crowded – if not more – than ours.

1953dawg

June 3rd, 2012
1:06 pm

If Henry flips to Bama, he will show he is much smarter than the majority of people on these blogs. why wouldn’t he want to play for a H.C. that has won 3 National Championships at 2 different SEC programs? And why wouldn’t he want to play for a position coach that has actually coached 2 1st round draft choices at running back. Richt has put together the worst Offensive coaching staff in the SEC. If you are a UGA fan, ask yourself how many programs have tried to hire away any of UGA’s offensive coaching staff? The answer is a laughing NONE!! Good programs lose their top asst. coaches every year to other envious programs, not the case at UGA. No other program wants any of these losers, so i think if Henry flips, he is showing he has thought this decision through, and UGA isn’t the place a top notch offensive player wants to be. PERIOD!! Richt and his clowns=MEDIOCRITY!!!

Neutral

June 3rd, 2012
1:10 pm

Yes, Dancz was a great leader and a good guy

kingdaddy

June 3rd, 2012
1:14 pm

1953
Here’s a question for you: Why would a pro-bama troll have Dawg in their name? Please change your name to reflect your preference for any team but the dawgs. ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!

Fan

June 3rd, 2012
1:51 pm

Roger Dancz was a great guy. His son, Steve, is actually leaving UGA’s faculty at the end of this month for a gig in Atl. It’ll be the first time since 1954 that a Dancz will not be on the school of music faculty. My mom’s side of the family grew up in the same small town (Ludington, Michigan) as the Dancz family did. A lot of them went to school together, some in the pre-UGA days. The Dancz name is a legend up there as well, and Roger was one of the main guys to keep the “clown band” going up there (which is soooo fun to play with and listen to). It’ll be sad times without a Dancz at the school of music.

GTBob

June 3rd, 2012
1:53 pm

All we really accomplish by playing Tech is to help them fund their athletic department.

How does playing us help our athletic department? Keeping the UGA rivalry in all sports does nothing but harm to our school and its athletics. Dropping that game would be one of the few smart decisions DRad has made.

GTBob

June 3rd, 2012
1:55 pm

@ GTBob- you could argue that since the conference formed 2 divisions in 1992 that UGA’s permanent opponent, Auburn, has been the best program in the SEC West

Yes, and you could argue that Auburn is maybe the 4th best program in the SEC West now and showing no signs that it might turn around. That’s why UGA wants to play them. They could care less about the fake rivalry.

Old Dog

June 3rd, 2012
2:00 pm

“As a Bulldog I am extremely upset by the contract offered to Mark [Richt].”

All he has to do is win championships and he makes it up in bonuses. OK, now I see why you are upset.

Old Dog

June 3rd, 2012
2:03 pm

“Richt has indicated he’s not likely to add a full-time special teams coach as long as current NCAA limits on coaches remain in place.”

That sounds like our coach. “Yes, I know what we have is broken, but I am not going to do anything about it.”

evil empire

June 3rd, 2012
2:25 pm

hey kingdaddy, you answer 1953’s question…i know it ticks you off because he’s right…nobody is beating down the door for any of uga’s o-staff…as for the uga auburn game, who cares about that game…yall act like its Bama-auburn, or Ohio State-Michigan…it’s not Lsu-Florida…it’s not even the egg bowl…no one cares about the game, except you uga fans, who are so concerned with “history” that you fail to recognize that you really have little or no history besides the auburn game…sucks being you…

Paul in NH

June 3rd, 2012
2:29 pm

“Which brings up the new Big 12-SEC bowl game. The ten team Big 12 doesn’t beat each other up with a conference championship game. I’m all for the bowl game itself, but the Big 12 team will be quite a bit more rested and less banged up.”

Every Big XII team plays 9 conference games, with the last game played the same day as the SECCG.

evil empire

June 3rd, 2012
2:46 pm

@rubber neck

The Derrick Henry rationale makes little sense. Their backfield is just as crowded – if not more – than ours.

the main difference is bama backs get championship rings…uga backs get participation ribbons from second tier bowls…by the way, rubberneck was the title of a great album by the texas band “the toadies” in 1994…

and if the ground's not cold, everything is gonna burn, we'll all take turns, i"ll get mine too

June 3rd, 2012
2:49 pm

Bama program >x100 UGA program. That’s the way it is.

question for all

June 3rd, 2012
4:18 pm

Is there a more disliked program in the south than UGA? Probably not.

whiskey breath

June 3rd, 2012
4:33 pm

Your biggest gripe on scheduling shouldn’t be about a 9 game conference schedule, but pading CMR’s record. Fans pay several hundred dollars to take the family to a game. Don’t you deserve to play somebody that is worth a crap? That is why the seniors are leaving several thousand seats empty. They like good games too.

just a fan

June 3rd, 2012
6:16 pm

@bill where can I get that Hines Ward figurine

AltamahaDawg

June 3rd, 2012
6:17 pm

Your memory of that song might be a bit fuzzy, but the decision to stay in the Golden Isles during the week of the Ga/Fl game was spot on.

Wilson Pickett

June 3rd, 2012
7:55 pm

The poster that brings up the quality of Richt entire staff is correct. Nobody is after Richt and none of his assistants …that is none including your DC that you think hung the Moon. If he was worth a sheet the NFL would have taken him including Mr.Blank. Continue to spin if it makes you feel better. Heck Bama lost two guys out of the football operations group to the NFL this year (Eagles and Pat’s) and you lose Gilbert to AU as a grad assistant. LOL….elite UGA…Oh MY.

kingdaddy

June 3rd, 2012
8:02 pm

Evil E.
I have already addressed that earlier. I love the tradition, but I want to play all the west teams more than we do now. I don’t care how we do it, heck make the season longer, play a 9 game SEC schedule. I don’t care E., I’m sick of the cupcks. and want to see UGA with a more challenging schedule. As far as 1953 goes, I hate when a troll pretends when he’s from a school but never does anything but bash that school. I don’t like it when anyone does it to another school either. It’s very juvinile. I like poking fun, but not under another schools name, its gutless…

Neutral

June 3rd, 2012
8:43 pm

@still at the cool aid….. (last night at 9:19)

Hey knucklehead, according to your stats the top 3 teams in winning percent are FL, Tenn and UGa. Bama has 2 more losses tha UGa…..so UGa has the better winning percent. That means the top 3 teams since the conference split are all on the east side. Guess that shoots holes in the argument that UGa is in the weakest side of the conference (historically speaking). I guess you need to keep sipping your kool aid dude!!!,

Neutral

June 3rd, 2012
8:49 pm

@king daddy

Right on pal…..1953 is not a Dawg fan. Sound like a GT fan trying to make logic out of how they were pounded by Florida twice this weekend in bb.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

June 3rd, 2012
9:17 pm

@ Fan:

Thanks for putting Kool-Aid in his place!!!!!!!!

He is an embarassment to humanity!!!!!!!!!!!

He thinks he is cool, knowledgeable and funny but that’s just the opposite of what he really is. Just the Single Digit IQ coming out of him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

June 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm

CMR has a better winning percentage than Saban or Miles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

June 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm

@ Whiskey Breath:

Now is the time for Grayshirt U to reschedule Louisiana-Monroe. Better play them at their place or at a neutral site because losing to them in Tuskaloser would FOREVER tarnish the Mighty Tide’s repu………………………………………………………….What??? Oh thats right. It has already happened but you and the other Tiders probably have forgotten

To woof or not to woof

June 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm

Did UGA ever replace the mangy mutt that croaked last year?

evil empire

June 3rd, 2012
10:26 pm

hey brainiac, sthu punk…

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

Neutral………..go do your HOMEWORK. The EAST is top cause the East also has the WORT teams in the Bottom too. The EAST benefited form playing the WORST SEC teams too. You looked at the #s and not WHO the #s were against.

Go check Vandy and Kentucky to Ole Miss and Miss St. and USCe compared to ArkieSaw. then come back and run your mouth you fool.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 3rd, 2012
11:10 pm

brainYAK can’t STHU. he has to talk as much as he can before his mommy closes the basement door.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 3rd, 2012
11:11 pm

brainYAK is keeping http://www.youPorn in business

RamboDog

June 3rd, 2012
11:13 pm

Hey,,,, Still@theKool-aidBAR. Don’t be sore just because “Neutral” owned you boy! WEAK answer after you got schooled..haha

Still@theKool-aidBAR

June 3rd, 2012
11:31 pm

Rambo then you are a MORON too. Got do your research. I showed you the best in the EAST is a JOKE to what the WEST has done.

TigerT

June 4th, 2012
12:15 am

It doesn’t matter who wins the east–lsu and alabama will be dominating the SEC for years and blow out whoever they play in the sec title game. Better coaches, better players, better fans! Hold that tiger!

Columbus Dawg

June 4th, 2012
6:08 am

Yeah, keep on believing that Tiger. I can’t make up my mind which pos west team I would rather face in Atlanta, the Toothless Wonders from the third world country of America, or the sex offender that UGA kicked to the curb, but the Dawgs will prevail either way. yeah, I agree that Chavis is a top notch DC, but Les Miles is a D.A.

The REAL sugarHillDawg

June 4th, 2012
7:39 am

You know it’s “fans” like Jim Weber that are a detriment to this program in that they are enamored with Mark Richt’s persona and could care less about his coaching ability.This contract was a stroke of genius by Greg McGarity in that it’s incentive laced and it will FORCE Richt to either bring his game up to snuff or get the HELL out–I prefer the latter myself.

Old Dog

June 4th, 2012
7:56 am

“CMR has a better winning percentage than Saban or Miles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Against Cupcakes. Where is his Championship Trophy? When was the lat time CMR won a bowl game? Do you REMEMBER last year’s bowl game? Do you remember some of the Special Team plays over that last two years? But CMR assures us that a Special Team coach is not needed. Alabama has a ST coach. LSU has a ST coach. But we don’t need one (we wouldn’t want to be like those two anyway, you know, WINNERS.)

Scorekeeper

June 4th, 2012
8:00 am

Can you name me 6 SEC coaches who have lost their last 2 bowl games?

1. Mark Richt
2. Mark Richt
3. Mark Richt
4. Mark Richt
5. Mark Richt
6. Mark Richt

Dagny

June 4th, 2012
8:07 am

… it will FORCE Richt to either bring his game up to snuff or get the HELL out – I prefer the latter myself.

Dawg fans are with you on that, my friend. A recent survey showed that about 87% of dawg fans want Richt out of Athens now.

Joey

June 4th, 2012
8:09 am

True, sugarHillDawg, and they get outraged if stats are used to point out that Richt has been extremely unsuccessful vs good SEC teams for years.

I hope Richt earns every penny of those incentives, but I don’t believe he will. The flukey SEC schedule of 2011, and Grantham’s D, saved his job last season, not excellence by himself.

When your special teams play is as pathetic, and giving up TDs as badly in the last 2 games as it did in the first 2, somebody didn’t do a very good coaching job.

maconXD

June 4th, 2012
8:35 am

give richt another raise, long term contract and big bonus! he won 10 games!!!!

GeoffDawg

June 4th, 2012
9:02 am

Easy solution to the nine game schedule issue. Similar to the B1G and Pac 10 alliance, form a partnership with the ACC where every SEC team is matched to an ACC team to play every year alternating home and home. This would shut up big mouths like Jim Delaney spouting off that the SEC doesn’t play enough BCS caliber teams as well as preserving the rivalries of Georgia, Florida and USCe without placing an unfair burden upon them. Unfortunately, we’d likely see the end to some intriguing OOC matchups during the regular season like Clemson or OK St. but that’s what the bowls are for after all.

gbal

June 4th, 2012
10:25 am

Just a matter of fact… any ACC fan (GT Bob) who wants to comment that an SEC 6-1-1 schedule is a cupcake schedule is nuts. Look at the cupcakes that any ACC teams has on their schedules…. in confrence and out of confrence teams all total. Clemson the ACC winner last year is a prime example. Win the confrence; get blown out giving up 70 in a bowl. Just does not hold water.

SEC 6-1-1 schedule plus whoever out of confrence is as competitive or more so that any other confrence schedule in the land.

GTBob

June 4th, 2012
10:50 am

Just a matter of fact… any ACC fan (GT Bob) who wants to comment that an SEC 6-1-1 schedule is a cupcake schedule is nuts.

I think I have made it pretty clear that I am not an ACC fan. It may shock some of you coat tail riders but some people root for a team and not a conference.

evil empire

June 4th, 2012
11:06 am

the post at 6:08 this morning is just more proof that anyone who uses “columbus” or “calhoun” in their blog name is more than likely an idiot…

DawginLex

June 4th, 2012
12:14 pm

anyone who calls himself evil empire and spends all his time bashing UGA is a moron who has no rival in the area of stupidity

SSIgator

June 4th, 2012
12:27 pm

Now, now. Can’t you be nice today Nancy?

mdawg

June 4th, 2012
12:38 pm

maconXD………. winning 10 games is a bad year.

if nick saban went 10-4 last year they would be calling for him to be fired..

yes 10 wins 20 years ago was a great thing. but lets face it. we now play 2 additional games per year. 3 extra games if you include the conf championship.

in my mind, if UGA has anything less than 12 wins per season is a bad year.

you can and will never win a national championship when you are content with a 10 win season

DawginLex

June 4th, 2012
12:59 pm

Seriously Stupid Ignorant Gator

Nuff said

Ed

June 4th, 2012
2:32 pm

9-game conference schedule, 10-game conference schedule, whatever. I’m all for anything that gets these horrendous cupcake games off the schedule. As far as the argument that tougher schedules would make it harder to win the so-called “national championship”, that’s too absurd to take seriously. There is no official national championship in Division 1-A, never has been. What’s more important: worrying about a mythical championship or having an attractive home schedule (under the theory that following colleged fb is supposed to be fun) and determining a true conference champion? Like it or not, the SEC is the only official championship our teams play for. Our champion is LSU, not Alabama.

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
3:02 pm

This talk of a committed Spercial team coach is so worn out and overblown. Georgia has had just as good of overall special teams as any SEC team during Mark Richts tenue, and even last year, had better number in certain aspects. Oh I know, you can tell me somebody was #4, and we were percentage points lower at #6 on some stats, but the bottom line is that stating we had horrible special teams across the board is incorrect.

Or more to the point, if we would only fire the TE coach and hire a full time guy, all that would go away if just wishfull thinking.You can look back and see years when LSU and Alabama had problem with certain aspects, same as anyone, with or without a coach. There advantage now is purely depth and talent. And obviously the sp team coach does a good job with that, but take that away and what is he looking like? average.

Opponent punt return yards was the only category that was embarrassingly different, and I believe that had a lot more to do with starting the year, and never really recovering from having a lack of player at certain positions, namely LBs than not having a SP only coach. AND had our all american PK not inexplicable missed some long attemptearly on (that very few other team were even attempting BTW) the perception of the 2011 STs wouldnt be nearly what it is right now.

I do think they have made a much needed correction to put some more front line guys on coverage teams, now that we have some depth to do that.

And when I hear them saying they they are putting more emphasis on ST, that tells me that they werent putting all there was to begin with, so that is a needed step.

But I can’t see where a dedicated coach would have been able to change much this past year.

We did have a good guy somewhat heading that up year before last, but this past year when he left, nobody really was qualified to be the “ST coordinator”. SO guys, who did you want to get fired on the position staff during last offfseason to put ina dedicatedST guy? or Now? If we do replace some staff going forward, perhaps somebody with added emphasis would be a consideration.

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
3:07 pm

Saban DID win 10 games only with a healthy, 5 first round NFL players, NC caliber, team in 2010. Nobody was calling for him to get fired.

10 wins is nowhere close to “bad”. Not being great, which it is not, is not the definition of bad.

Pitbull

June 4th, 2012
3:56 pm

It would be more fun and a better rivalry if we dropped Tech and played Clemson every year.

Nick

June 4th, 2012
4:32 pm

Bill, regarding scheduling (and maybe I’m getting ahead of myself here), what would the odds be of going to a 13 or 14 game schedule, which would allow for the SEC (and others) to add conference games, cupcakes and those nationally televised, highly regarded match-ups with good teams as well?
Not to mention the extra revenue produced for all involved.
Go Dawgs!

mdawg

June 4th, 2012
5:29 pm

Ed,
winning a conf champ means nothing.

green bay did NOT win their conf 2 years ago when they won the super bowl.

st. louis cardinals were a wild card team that won the world series.

the beauty of a playoff is that anything can happen.

this idiotic thing that you must win your conf to be a national champ is just stupid

mdawg

June 4th, 2012
5:31 pm

NEVER NEVER NEVER do i want to play clemson in any sport.

i do not fear them because UGA has proven to be more superior

i do not want to play them because im tired of playing cupcakes

WDE

June 4th, 2012
5:33 pm

I’m in Egypt as I type this and I can’t tell you how sweet it is to know that there is still Mom,apple pie, trolls and College football still in the world…bad news is that it is a long time till kick off.

celebrating a national championship in Athens!

June 4th, 2012
6:42 pm

The nicer Athens…not that dump in Clarke County…Athens, Tennessee, home of Tennessee Wesleyan College, the 2012 NAIA men’s baseball national champions. I can assure you that the city name is all those two cities have in common. Athens, TN is a beautiful community. Athens, GA is a hippy-filled septic tank. While many schools in the SEC are still in the baseball playoffs, UGA sits quietly. UGA isn’t competetive in baseball, basketball, or football games where the competition is their equal or better. Thank god for chick sports or you would have nothing to cheer about, losers.

wde

June 4th, 2012
6:58 pm

celebrating a national championship in Athens! ahhhh I love the smell of troll burning in the morning.

evil empire

June 4th, 2012
7:13 pm

wde, what are you doing in egypt?? i spent 1994-95 off the coast of alexandria drilling for oil for repsol, the spanish national oil company…egypt and alabama are alot alike…some interesting sites to see, but the people are for the most part uneducated and smell funny…

DawgNole

June 4th, 2012
8:17 pm

AltamahaDawg
June 4th, 2012
3:02 pm

“AND had our all american PK not inexplicable missed some long attemptearly on (that very few other team were even attempting BTW) . . . .”
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AND had our all-american PK not inexplicably MISSED some SHORT attempts ALL YEAR (that many other teams were not only attempting, but making BTW) . . . .

Mobile Dawg

June 4th, 2012
9:18 pm

Bottom line is that Mark Richt has been a day late and a dollar short in all catagories the last several years. This is his make or break year, I hope. I’m tired of what I’ve been seeing on the field and off.

Mobile Dawg

June 4th, 2012
9:20 pm

Is Mark Richt that unlucky? Every year there has been a different problem or set of circumstances that cost us games and seasons. I don’t think so, I think it’s totally his management skills, or lack of.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

June 4th, 2012
9:21 pm

@ Paul in NH:

How would you know what “most people think”??????????????????

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

June 4th, 2012
9:32 pm

@ DawgNole:

Tell your sad PK stories to Bammar. They will understand after their loss to LSU last season!!!!!!!!!!!

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

June 4th, 2012
9:37 pm

@ Mobile Dawg:

Have you ever thought about maybe finding yourself a new team to pull for?? Your 9:20pm post is an indication that you have some serious head problems. The guy is one point shy of passing the test. In your case your seem to be many points shy!!!!

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

June 4th, 2012
9:49 pm

ACC = Always Cup Cakes

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

June 4th, 2012
9:54 pm

@ Joey:

@ Sugarhill:

The next time either of you have a thought………………………..just let it go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mobile Dawg

June 4th, 2012
10:01 pm

Braniac, and I say that with reserve. Any human with an iota of ability to think for themselves, apply reason, facts, and reality will agree with me. You are nothing more than an “idiot” who places himself on a pedestal, and you, are truly a legend in your own mind. I read post after post from you where you, from some self appointed heirarchy insult poster after poster. I seldom, if ever attack anyone personally and will refrain from belittling you; this is a blog for communication and an exchange of ideas and maybe ideology. You failed. Your degree from UGA is pathetically wasted. Grow up son, maybe if you listened more, and talked less you would realize maybe your head is the one needing improvement. You disagree with me because I hold people accountable for performance, I can’t be duped with smoke, mirrors, and kool aid. You have to be a Democrat.

win 10

June 4th, 2012
10:19 pm

georgia will win 10 games again—book it. this dog team is loaded!

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
10:27 pm

Not sure your point Noledawg. he did miss some shorter ones, but his percentages were worse on the over 45 yarders. But even if he was not so great on the short ones….the point made, that who expected him to have such a bad year, and without it we probably are not having this “horrible” special teams discussion, and how was a dedicated coach going to stop a senior AA kicker having the first struggles we have seen at PK in a LONG time? . Without a dedicated ST coach, UGA has had some of the best kicking in the league as long as anybody can remember. So what does that prove? The only real issues we have had in any years, was coverage teams, and I think we all see that was personel related. Or call it philosophical, fine. But we have also been right up there around the top before. Alabama has also had years near the bottom.

A dedicated ST coach is fine, but its ONE way to do it. The way most folks don’t go, fwiw. There are other ways. The 2011 UGA coverage team is NOT the way, but I’m willing to bet that if a person broke it down and came up with the variables, having a dedicated ST coach would not the be THE major factor.

A little message for dawg fans

June 4th, 2012
10:27 pm

– .- .-. -.- / .-. .. -.-. …. – / .- -. -.. /..- –. .- / .-. . .- .-.. .-.. -.– / … ..- -.-. -.- / -… .. –. – .. — . .-.-.-

A really, really vile place

June 4th, 2012
10:32 pm

Athens, GA is a hippy-filled septic tank.

Don’t forget the drunks and woman beaters.

Dawg Goneit

June 4th, 2012
10:43 pm

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
3:07 pm

Saban DID win 10 games only with a healthy, 5 first round NFL players, NC caliber, team in 2010. Nobody was calling for him to get fired.

10 wins is nowhere close to “bad”. Not being great, which it is not, is not the definition of bad.

That’s true, but Saban had just gone 14-0 and won a NC the year before and… he won another NC the very next year. That justifies a contract extension. One oddball 10 win season does not.

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
10:50 pm

around 80% under 40 yrds, and 40% over 40 yrs .And I recall, the point of diminishing returns was the 45 yrds out. At some point around midseason he still had more made FGs over 45 yd than anyone else had even attempted. 2/5 over 50 yrs. Not many(none) PK in the SEC attempting 5 Fg over 50 yrs last year. I just think we rode that horse too hard and it pulled up lame.

The guy was the leading scorer in the history of the SEC. beating out the last guy, OUR kicker. its not like our kicking games have sucked under this model.

Mobile Dawg

June 4th, 2012
10:55 pm

My point in the 9:20 post is exactly “that”, every year some weakness rears it’s ugly head in Richt’s program. That said I know he’s our coach for another year. I can’t support him, the program is a different animal. How much bad luck can you attribute Richt’s performance to, vs incompetence?

Mobile Dawg

June 4th, 2012
11:05 pm

Altamaha, those numbers aren’t good for an AA. Is it just bad luck for Richt, and Butler, like the dropped passes in the SECCG? The bad luck, i.e. defense (under Martinez), injuries, OL, ST’’s disipline, etc eventually draw a picture of the state of the program and leadership. I just don’t understand the excuses from the kool aid krowd, and the unconditional support.

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
11:08 pm

That’s great Goneit. I don’t disagree with your point. And you inavertantly are making the same point that I was.

mdawg

June 4th, 2012
11:12 pm

the only reason he became the leading scorer was because we now play 3 extra games per season…. so yes our kicking game has suffer..

lets see we lost by 3 to south carolina and he missed a field goal. i can blame him for that loss. and can blame him for the loss at colorado when he was bragging that he could make a 60 yard fg in their light air…. then in the game he missed a 30 something yarder.

and are you really saying he was a better kicker than kevin butler?

why dont you wake up and get with it altamahadawg

and to the guy who said you can bank on a 10 win season…… let me repeat myself… a 10 win season is a horrible season… one can never win a national championship when one is content with winning 10 wins per season

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
11:14 pm

And I don’t understand why if somebody is having a narrow discussion of a very specific point, you always counter with the “excuses from the kool aid krowd, and the unconditional support.”. At some point, some of us would like to discuss actual football topics and the banilities and cliches grow a bit tired. And some time we actually like to discuss something beside the name of the coach.

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
11:16 pm

I dont know if he “better” than kevin Butler? is that a serious question? WTH?

And get with what?

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
11:17 pm

Clearly mdawg, you are choosing to ignore the point I was making about Walsh, if THAT is what you came away with.

Mobile Dawg

June 4th, 2012
11:26 pm

So specifically how does an “AA” kicker and potential “AA” punter go from a strength to a weakness? Couple years back, how does the OL, which everyone knows was rated as the “strength” of the team, become the weakness when we’re breaking in a “Freshman” QB? Come to think of it why are we breaking in a FM QB who’s never taken a snap? To many coincidental failures in the infrastructure of the team to blame the discussion on cliches and banilities. I guess you would rather spend a couple of three years defending a coach who by anyones standards has been anything but average. I think UGA deserves more.

a country boy can survive

June 4th, 2012
11:29 pm

Mobile Dawg is carrying the mail tonite!! Some of the most rational posts ever on the AJC blogs. Appreciate it..

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
11:32 pm

Weeeeeeeeeeeell. I was making a point that a dedicated ST coach is not really the end all to a PK missing long FGs, in his senior year. Wasn’t really trying to offer up a broad thesis on managerial excellence. Just talking about kicking a ball thru a set of goal post there.

Mobile Dawg

June 4th, 2012
11:33 pm

In my life, and in my experiences, the harder I work, the luckier I get. And vice versa, I just can’t comprehend the debate.

Thank you country boy.

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
11:36 pm

I don’t ‘defend” Richt. He is a big boy. I disagree with specific comment that I find to be incorrect. And I welcome the debate on the point. I also offered 2 seperate critics of how he has handled ST, but that also seems to go unnoticed, when I don’t use enough inflamatory rhetoric.

Mobile Dawg

June 4th, 2012
11:37 pm

I guess I’m a failure at dotting the I’s and crossing the T’s. I’m a big picture guy who puts people in charge of the everyday operations and I monitor the results. If my guy can’t put it through the goal posts I find out why. A special teams coach is IMO vital to the success of an organization. How many games did we lose because we allowed a fake punt, an onside kick, a missed field goal, a returned kick or punt? It’s a significant part of the game that needs “specific” attention.

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
11:39 pm

You can’t comprehend the debate, because you made that debate up. No serious fan has ever tried to say that all of Richt’s failure were nothing more than dumb luck.

Mobile Dawg

June 4th, 2012
11:42 pm

Altamaha, I don’t mean to get down on you, you are truly the voice of reason on this blog and you force me to think and rethink my position at times. My hardline stance on “you know who” has been forged over the last five years. I saw the underpins of the foundation erroding years back and the ultimate collapse. Just can’t give him a pass on that.

Fishing on the Gulf was excellent this past weekend.

Mobile Dawg

June 4th, 2012
11:45 pm

I can’t ever recall you saying anything holding Richt accountable for the results. Your point specific debates are always in defense of the particular part of the program in question, discussion. I’ve read where you’ve said you have seen problems, but never really criticized Richt’s policies or decisions, contritely, you’ve supported his position mostly.

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
11:54 pm

Well its his job . How much more accountable can he be? There is probably not a job in America where a guy is held accountable for result more than a major college football coach.

How is it up to me to hold him accountable. I hate when we lose. Obviously IF we lose, something went wrong. he is the guy in charge. I just don’t understand the point of stating the obvious over and over and over.

But
I critisized the 4 losses a lot more than anthing positive you ever said about the 10 wins, i know that.

AltamahaDawg

June 5th, 2012
12:04 am

No you just choose not to see when I critisize:

-over-reaction of the injuries of 2008 affecting conditioning
-letting the culture of the players go south (despite you and I having a long discussion about that very thing
-not having experienced QBs to plug in
-often mention the real problem I saw with ST roster

I have also go into great detail that UGA is paying a huge price to have hired such an inexpereinced HC< and ALSO how Richt is paying the price for doing the same thing at OC

BUT to me none of that matters a hill of bean compared to what I see going forward, (and I saw enough good points in the past ) so no, i don;t dwell on it.

AltamahaDawg

June 5th, 2012
12:06 am

And the fishing on the coast sucked this past week. Obviously.

mdawg

June 5th, 2012
12:13 am

no AltamahaDawg …. you made the statement that walsh is the leading scorer in the history of the sec… im telling you that its not a fair comparison because we play 3 additional games per year.. and walsh over his career played in 9 more games than kevin butler did….

bottom line is walsh missed fgs that caused UGA games. he is and will always be a bum

mdawg

June 5th, 2012
12:17 am

AltamahaDawg

June 4th, 2012
11:32 pm
Weeeeeeeeeeeell. I was making a point that a dedicated ST coach is not really the end all to a PK missing long FGs, in his senior year. Wasn’t really trying to offer up a broad thesis on managerial excellence. Just talking about kicking a ball thru a set of goal post there.

………………………………………

so when did missing 30 yard field goals become a long fg?

most of the fgs he missed were under 40 yards and 60% of them were 30 something yarders.

sounds like altamahadawg only sees what he wants to see

Mobile Dawg

June 5th, 2012
12:29 am

Alt, the filter ate my post and I failed to copy it before submitting. That is an abyss, but I’m not going to try and recreate it at this point. Obviously I don’t read all your posts and miss some things. Sorry bout the weather over there, what comes around goes around on the coast.

I’ve read your opinions on Saban and UGA not being a good fit, but, can you honestly say from a fan’s and alumni perspective that you would rather have Richt as your coach than Saban? Have a good night, it’s always a pleasure.

Mobile Dawg

June 5th, 2012
12:30 am

And I do recall some of those conversations you mentioned above…..Later….

Still @ the Fish Taco Bar

June 5th, 2012
1:06 am

Bill…You are always full of great info!

tony

June 5th, 2012
6:52 am

I would like to point out a few things about Mr Richt that makes me want to shoot a cannon @ my tv.

1) Washaun Ealey jumped off the ground screeming at his OL as if he was mad at them for not blocking for him – after that play it appeared to me that Mr Richt was chewing him out on the sideline for his outburst – Ealey never played with a swagger after that game(That 2nd or 3rd game 2010).

2) Mr Richt told Isaiah Crowell that he will ” carry that rock” on open day if he did what he was suppose to do but when I saw Richard Samuel in that game on open day I was LIVID! Where was Ken Malcome? I always felt that he was the best rb on the team but Mr Richt kept him on the sideline – can you imagine the impact he would of had against Boise and SC had he played in those games? The poor young man almost transfered.

3) I still can’t believe Mr Richt elected to kick that ball to the Honey Bagger when LSU offense couldn’t pick up a 1st down against ourt defense in that 1st half. All he had to do is have his kcker to kick the ball out the stadium because the momentum was on our side. Then in the 2nd half Mr Richt elected to kick to the Honey Bagger again. He return the ball for 47 yards. To me that sealed the deal for the Tigers.

4) Against Michigan St I think we were up by a td with 3 min left in the game. It was 3rd and 8. Guess what? Mr Richt sent Richard Samuel up the middle instead of trying to pick up the 1st down in the air. WOW! After that play, I knew they were going to lose that game. Even the players knew they were going to lose that game after that play. I think everybody that watched that game knew that they were going to lose that game after that call.

Those are the kind of decisions that worry the fans about going into this season.

AltamahaDawg

June 5th, 2012
7:36 am

mdawg, YOU made this a debate about how good Walsh was. That was not my point. I assume you skimmed over the part where I was talking about his collapse as a senior. (again, I tend to disguise my critisism in simple straighforward words and not hyperbole). My point was that its pretty silly to think that the staff didnt do everything they could to figure that out and correct it, and I don’t believe a dedicated ST coach would have obviously “fixed” that. And he was 80% on 30 yrd FG. Run that bowl overtime scenerio 9 more times and we win 8 of them.

But if it makes you feel better, since “Kevin Butler” seems to be your only point of reference when it comes to the history and current state of college kicking game…….pro-rate his career. Great. then Walsh only goes into the books as ONE of the best kicker at UGA. Along with Kouto. And Bennett, who previosuly held that tainted scoring title. All coincidence I am sure.

BTW they also used to use a tee, which was a big advantage on long FG before 1988. Along with othere factors that made comparing differnt eras sort of difficult.

Mobile Dawg

June 5th, 2012
9:59 am

Rex Robinson was Mr. Clutch, and I remember Allen Leavitt in addition. UGA has a tradition of good kickers. Walsh was disappointing his Senior year for sure. He won’t be remembered as one of the great ones because of his Senior year regardless what the record books say.

Everyone responds differently to pressure, maybe the tag of AA, the dream of NFL $$, or other unknown factors contributed to his collapse. Fact remains it’s his coaches job to correct the issues. Whether it’s more practice, sports psychologist, etc, whatever they did didn’t work.

mdawg

June 5th, 2012
10:04 am

no. i have never said how great walsh was. you said he missed long fgs.. i then asked you if you consider a 30 yard fg to be long?

but you did not answer

you made the comment that walsh is the leading scorer in the sec. i said that was bogus because he played in 9 extra games than kevin butler did.

but you choose to ignore that also.

you only see what you want to see

mdawg

June 5th, 2012
10:06 am

yes they used to use tees on fgs…

but they also use to kick barefoot also.

GR

June 5th, 2012
11:14 am

UGA has a problem concerning scheduling.I have followed the DAWGS since the 1960’s- this is by far the worse home schedule on record. My uncle is a Hartman contributor for quite awhile and says he may not even go to some home games.

If the short minded politicos are not careful they can further sabotage the Dawg nation. Adams certainly has done his part.Now they are ticking off the students- future season ticket holders. Change needs to happen.

Mobile Dawg

June 5th, 2012
12:05 pm

GR, I believe most of the apathy comes from the Dawgs not being “truly” competitive. The schedule improves next year with Clemson, and I would like to see the ninth conference game.

Pitbull

June 5th, 2012
12:13 pm

Congrats to Mark Richt for graduating 222 players in 11 years which is pretty much an entire recruiting class each year and for winning 106 games during that same period of time.

Mark, you may not have won a NC and that is OK. We have been in the SECCG 5 times since you came to Athens and won it twice. We never went to the SECCG before you got here.

I believe your bowl record is 7-4.

You have run a clean winning program, have never embarrassed us, and we have never been placed on probation during your tenure, unlike the dirty program over on North Avenue which just ended one four year probation and is beginning another four year probation after forfeiting an ACC championship.

I remember your first year as the UGA head coach when you made the statement that you would rather lose a game than cheat. That puts you way ahead of most other football coaches, especially in the South.

Oh and lets never forget that the reason Tech folks hate you is that you are 10-1 against Tech.

Alphare

June 5th, 2012
1:42 pm

Florida 198-59……….MNC
Tenn 179-75………….MNC
Bama 174-77-1…….MNC
UGa 173-75-1
Auburn 169-75-2……MNC
LSU 166-80-1……….MNC
Arkie 138-101-2

That puts UGA at 3rd in the East.

evil empire

June 5th, 2012
1:57 pm

that was a touching post pitbull…emergency rooms should copy that post and give it to poisoning victims to help induce vomiting…

Mobile Dawg

June 5th, 2012
2:06 pm

All great points pitbull, but, let’s not forget, the vast majority of that winning record came the first five or six years of Richt’s tenure. Since then the bar has been raised “significantly” by Saban, Miles, Meyer, and Chisik’s MNC’s. No reason that we shouldn’t have been able to compete for one also.

AltamahaDawg

June 5th, 2012
5:00 pm

I think 45-55 is a long FG. He was 40% on those. I think 30 is shorter than 45. He was 80% on those. So I conclude that his problem was probably the longer FGs.
I didnt realize you were asking me to say if he in fact ever missed a 30 yr FG in his career. YES. is that long. NO.
Hoping that is a clear enough answer considering I am not even sure of your point or what it was you are asking me.

None of which had anything to do with my point.

DawgNole

June 5th, 2012
9:07 pm

DawgNole
June 4th, 2012
8:17 pm

AltamahaDawg
June 4th, 2012
3:02 pm

“AND had our all american PK not inexplicable missed some long attemptearly on (that very few other team were even attempting BTW) . . . .”
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AND had our all-american PK not inexplicably MISSED some SHORT attempts ALL YEAR (that many other teams were not only attempting, but making BTW) . . . .

AltamahaDawg
June 4th, 2012
10:27 pm

Not sure your point Noledawg. he did miss some shorter ones, but his percentages were worse on the over 45 yarders. But even if he was not so great on the short ones….the point made, that who expected him to have such a bad year,

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Tried to respond to your post earlier today, but blog monster ate mine.

I wasn’t disagreeing with you on the totally unanticipated collapse of Walsh, but your post (above) implied that the reason for his failures was that he missed a number of long FGs that other teams wouldn’t even attempt. You also noted that “his percentages were worse on the over 45 yarders,” which seems like kind of a no-brainer to me. Aren’t most kickers less accurate as their attempts get longer?

All I’m saying is that the short ones he missed (inexplicably) likely were more demoralizing to him, the team, and the coaches than the long ones. It is those short misses–far more than the longer ones–that deeply erode not only a PK’s confidence, but also the team’s and coaches’ confidence in him.

DawgNole

June 5th, 2012
9:16 pm

Pitbull
June 5th, 2012
12:13 pm

Mark, you may not have won a NC and that is OK.
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Well, I wouldn’t go that far. It’s certainly not “OK” with me that he hasn’t gotten us to a national championship game in 11 years–given UGA’s impressive support, facilities, and recruits. But he has accomplished quite a bit in Athens, and in light of last year’s improvement, I remain hopeful that he can take the Dawgs a step closer to elite this season, especially with our powderpuff schedule.

DawgNole

June 5th, 2012
9:19 pm

Mobile Dawg
June 5th, 2012
12:05 pm

GR, I believe most of the apathy comes from the Dawgs not being “truly” competitive. The schedule improves next year with Clemson, and I would like to see the ninth conference game.
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An upgrade in the OOC schedule would go a long way toward diminishing the apathy you’ve cited–as would a 9th SEC game.

Across the wide Missouri

June 5th, 2012
9:33 pm

Mizzou 37, Georgia 13

It’s going to be fun playing in the SEC! Bye bye, dawggies.

AltamahaDawg

June 6th, 2012
8:52 am

I think you are very correct on pretty much all that Nole. None of which I find disagreeable to my point.

But I can clarify a bit. Yes its makes sence that any PK would have a lower % on longer FG, (which ismy point why most PK arent expected to go attempt a bunch of 50+ yrders, as was Walsh). And more to the point, what I was talking about was the “perception”, specifically from our side. I don’t believe that we as fan DO take it into consideration that more misses FG is to be expected if our guy attempts a LOT more 45 and 50, and 52 FGs. We tend to see him missing more FG lately and thats a lot of what started the whole kicking game gone to crap meme.(adding to the fuel of the talk of needing a full time ST only guy) Sure missing a short one probably feels worse to an actual kicker, but he was 80% on those. That’s not overly demoralizing, IMO. In short, I think if we had used him as most SEC PK last year, he would have have a pretty decent % overall, and I doubt anyone would have really questioned what the heck went wrong with Walsh.

AltamahaDawg

June 6th, 2012
9:16 am

I also think that the terminology gets confused in here about this so called ST coach. As I recall, Richt HAS had a designated “special team co-ordinator” on his staff in all but just last year. Not sure what the situation was where he didnt designate one, when Belin left. BUT they have always divided up the duties among various statt member. And THATS what Richt has replied that he believes to be the best way to handle it now……..the way he has (when they have also lead the league in some ST categories)..and the way most everybody else does it. Some coaches don’t spread out the responsibility over AS many, but few coaches don’t have some position coaches handling ST coaching.

I don’t think some of these folks who blast Richt over this even know what it is they are talking about. Don’t even really know what it is they are specifically disagreeing with.

The critisism of the coverage assignments is obviously valid. I believe he is one record as agreeing with that.

AltamahaDawg

June 6th, 2012
9:26 am

BTW, I don’t consider TN, SC, UF, MO, AU, GT …as powerderpuffs. They haven’t been in my lifetime at least. Not even really Vandy or Ky (well Ky might be this year). And some, if not all of those, are going to be a heck of a lot better team when the smoke clears than some of our fans seem to think.

DawgNole

June 6th, 2012
8:13 pm

AltamahaDawg
June 6th, 2012
8:52 am

Sure missing a short one probably feels worse to an actual kicker, but he was 80% on those. That’s not overly demoralizing, IMO.
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Depends on the definition of “short.” If it’s less than 30 yards, 80% is unacceptable over an entire season for a major college kicker–particularly one with Walsh’s history. I don’t think fans generally would begrudge him missing 50-plus-yd attempts, despite his past success with those.

DawgNole

June 6th, 2012
8:27 pm

AltamahaDawg
June 6th, 2012
9:26 am

BTW, I don’t consider TN, SC, UF, MO, AU, GT …as powerderpuffs. They haven’t been in my lifetime at least. Not even really Vandy or Ky (well Ky might be this year).
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I don’t consider those 6 teams powderpuffs either, but that’s only half the schedule. Our OOC schedule (aside from Tech) is usually a disgrace. And I can’t agree with you on Vandy and KY at all. They’ve always been the SEC doormats, and UGA gets to play them EVERY year. The games have been more competitive recently, but the Dawgs absolutely own those two weak sisters in their overall series.

We need to upgrade our OOC schedule in the very worst way. One thing I liked about Damon Evans is that he was trying to do that by “spreading the brand” (i.e., playing home-and-homes with DECENT (not powerhouse) OOC opponents–Colorado, Arizona St, Okla St, etc. There was tremendous interest in those games, not only by the fans but by network TV as well. Sad that McGarity couldn’t wait to start replacing them (and Oregon) with the duds we face now.

Hail to Georgia...

June 7th, 2012
4:49 pm

I picked a good year to stay in Redcoats!!! I still don’t even know how to request tickets!