Fan talk: UGA’s football players must battle ‘soft’ reputation

Offensive lineman Cordy Glenn, just drafted by the Buffalo Bills, started 50 games for the Georgia Bulldogs. (University of Georgia)

Offensive lineman Cordy Glenn, just drafted by the Buffalo Bills, started 50 games for the Georgia Bulldogs. (University of Georgia)

Let’s jump straight into some of this week’s Junkyard Mail …

Robert Nesbitt writes: Junkyard, I heard on the [NFL] draft coverage of the 1st round something that has me hopping mad. Gil Brandt, the resident draft guru, was pontificating on why Cordy Glenn may not have been drafted. Gil indicated it is well known Georgia players do much better in the pros (than college)and that Glenn (and by association) other Bulldogs are soft in they way they play college ball. This burns me up, because the truth hurts. What are your thoughts?

This isn’t the first time we’ve heard this rap on Georgia players. NFL scouts were dissing the strength and conditioning of Mark Richt’s players at least a couple of years before the head coach decided an overhall of the conditioning staff was in order. And while the team overall looked stronger last year, the fourth-quarter fade in the bowl game showed there’s still room for improvement in that regard. Of course, Georgia has still had 57 draft picks in the past 10 years (tops in the SEC), though the rate has fallen off somewhat in the past five years. Still, I’m not sure Brandt’s citing of the Dawgs’ reputation around the league for being “soft” was really at play in Glenn not getting drafted until the Bills took him in the 41st spot in the second round. There was some talk about him occasionally showing lazy technique, plus there probably were questions about his weight (somewhere in the vicinity of 345), though he’s shown himself to be remarkably quick for a big man. More likely there were questions about his suitability at tackle, since he was a guard for 32 of his 50 starts at UGA. Still, those 50 starts for a team playing in the SEC (tying Clint Boling’s record for a UGA offensive lineman) belie the “soft” tag and it should be noted that another draft guru, Jon Gruden, professed himself “shocked” that Glenn was still available in the second round. “I thought he was a legitimate first rounder. He’s handled consistently SEC competition,” Gruden said. But back to your overall point: Joe Tereshinski has only had one season to turn things around in the strength and conditioning department. It’ll take some demonstrable improvement there to get rid of the Dogs’ previous reputation among NFL types.

Terry Lively writes: Bill, I appreciate your insights. I just have to ask: Why do you think the Dawgs consistently struggle in recruiting the offensive line position? This is prompted by the most recent “should have had him” in Max Garcia. We have the need, we have the skill players and we have the offensive style (allegedly) that should make it attractive for MANY linemen, yet we always seem to lose way more than we win. Take Garcia — wanted to be closer to home, an OT (and Lord knows we need them), and we were his leader at least at one point … but we lost him. Tell me where I’m off in my assessment or why you think we are always lagging at that position. And by the way, yes I know it’s a long way to signing day, but we seem to say that every year down the stretch but don’t close well in this area, and right now out of 15 commitments we have ONE OL on the board. It just doesn’t make sense given the opportunity in Athens.

We all know the offensive line has been a weak point for Richt’s program in recent years and recruiting no doubt lies at the heart of that. Of course, Will Friend is only in his second year as OL coach but, yeah, letting Maryland transfer Max Garcia slip away falls on him. The Georgia native left the Terps because he wanted to play closer to home and listed Georgia as his favorite early on. You can’t say Georgia doesn’t ever get quality OL players, though. John Theus, who’ll join the team this summer, is a highly touted five-star signee. And while three-star tackle Aulden Bynum is currently the only offensive lineman committed to Georgia in the 2013 class, recruiting experts see the Dogs having a good shot at quite a few others, including five-star player Laremy Tunsil. The Dawgs are considered likely to sign several tackles and another center and guard or two. I’m not ready to write off Georgia’s OL recruiting just on the basis of not snagging Garcia.

Steve Yearta writes: First, I thought that we should be as good as last year; maybe [Aaron] Murray will make it through the season without throwing pick 6’s at inopportune times; the running back corps will be vastly improved; and the OL and special teams probably won’t be any worse; and we’ll wind up winning 10 and losing 3. Now, however, I’ve drifted to: the offensive line will not be, even with the starters healthy, a strength and if, heaven forbid, injuries occur, it will be a struggle to have any consistency; no, [Murray] hasn’t beaten a good team yet, and I have great concern about his effectiveness and health if the OL is ineffective; and considering the lack of attention to special teams under this regime who knows what will happen there? Obviously, my concerns are with the offense and special teams. I think the defensive line and backers are excellent and can probably cover up some deficiencies in the defensive backfield. I wouldn’t be surprised if we wound up losing 1 game or 5. Just too hard to read this team. Thanks for your blog!

You’re right that on first blush it’s easy to think that in 2012 Georgia should at the very least repeat as SEC East champ and perhaps be a bit better than the 2011 team. But, as you correctly note, there are a lot of questions still to be answered. As I’ve made clear here, Murray isn’t among my primary worries. I’m much more concerned about the offensive line and whether it will allow our impressive stable of tailbacks to get anything going. And, as you noted, there’s a huge question mark hanging over special teams play. Until we see how the freshman specialists perform and whether the offseason tinkering improves kick coverage, that must remain on the list of the Dogs’ major liabilities.

Will competition from new running backs provide a spark for Isaiah Crowell? (Associated Press)

Will competition from new running backs provide a spark for Isaiah Crowell? (Associated Press)

On a more positive note, Jerry Cochran writes: Bill, I truly believe Mark Richt’s team this year has a chance to be special. I know the offensive line has to be rebuilt and we’re going to be missing some starters in the secondary against Missouri, but I really feel Aaron Murray is about to come into his own and I’m just plain excited by the prospects in the running game. I think the addition of Keith Marshall and Todd Gurley is going to spark Isaiah Crowell to fully live up to his potential and give Georgia the kind of versatility in the running game that LSU showed this past season. Am I being overly optimistic?

A lot depends on how the OL develops, in terms of both Murray’s progression at QB and the running game, but if that unit can gel before the South Carolina game, Georgia’s defense plays up to its considerable capabilities and the aforementioned special teams situation stablizes, the 2012 Dawgs certainly could be a Top 5 team.

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466 comments Add your comment

Joey

April 28th, 2012
5:40 pm

Bubbs – one other possibility – maybe the predictable schemes and playcalling?

Probably tough to block somebody who knows where the ball is headed . . .

fayncdawg

April 28th, 2012
5:43 pm

STRENGTH has not been an issue for ANY Dawg draft prospect for years. Most of them have done at least 30 reps at the combine (including Charles and all 3 OL prospects this year). CONDITIONING is not much of an issue either! The concern with many NFL minds is that these boys are not well-coached! I wonder why CMR has consistently neglected to hire seasoned assistant coaches.OCs and DCs need to be ex-HCs, not young up and comings! CMR would do this university much justice to MAYBE keep DCMG and fire all those other assistant coaches that no college team would hire as a HC!

kingdaddy

April 28th, 2012
5:44 pm

It’s always the same posters, over and over, trashing the Dawgs for this or that. No matter what the B U L L D A W G B L O G is talking about, you can count on the same cheapshot artist, giving their negative opines. Never anything positive, just bash Ga. Tell me this hotshots, why don’t you say what loser school you support??? Even The Great Racist, Tide Pride is really a Techie, to ashamed of his own schools tradition of failure against the Dawgs as is most all of you T R O L L S. If you’re going to slam Ga., have the sack totell us your school, you bunch of whiney bushwhackers…

Snoop Dawg

April 28th, 2012
5:45 pm

Fellow Bulldawgs,
I am pleased to see some real objective and constructive criticism of the UGA football program, or should I say the current excuse for a program.
This can be analyzed at the weed level forever. Strategically, however, the problems all lead to the imncompetent Mark”Marjoe” Richt, the head coach. Oops, I meant CEO. He is calling all the shots and has assembled the staff.
Another big reason is for the Richt fetish homers like KingDaddy who are happy to go to their graves with losing teams as long as thE Tan Man is at the helm pulling down the big bucks for nothing.
Finally, the university president Adams is a wimp who isn’t even interested in football. Howdy Doody UF Retread McCavity is dumber than a box of rocks but a good Company Man getting credit for the second most profitable college athletics program in the country.
All because of such loyal fans who do not demand excellence like other SEC university alumni and fans do. The just prefer a Good Chrisian Man even if he is a multimillion dollar perennial loser.
So the Bulldog Nation needs to look into the mirror to understand the sorry state of the program.

Snoop Dawg

April 28th, 2012
5:45 pm

Fellow Bulldawgs,
I am pleased to see some real objective and constructive criticism of the UGA football program, or should I say the current excuse for a program.
This can be analyzed at the weed level forever. Strategically, however, the problems all lead to the imncompetent Mark”Marjoe” Richt, the head coach. Oops, I meant CEO. He is calling all the shots and has assembled the staff.
Another big reason is for the Richt fetish homers like KingDaddy who are happy to go to their graves with losing teams as long as thE Tan Man is at the helm pulling down the big bucks for nothing.
Finally, the university president Adams is a wimp who isn’t even interested in football. Howdy Doody UF Retread McCavity is dumber than a box of rocks but a good Company Man getting credit for the second most profitable college athletics program in the country.
All because of such loyal fans who do not demand excellence like other SEC university alumni and fans do. The just prefer a Good Chrisian Man even if he is a multimillion dollar perennial loser.
So the Bulldog Nation needs to look into the mirror to understand the sorry state of the program.

Bubbs

April 28th, 2012
5:47 pm

No, it’s not Bobo’s fault. Think of the LSU game, Bobo had LSU baffled in the 1st half, then some special teams gaffes, and Murray’s turnovers start, and game over. Bobo got out to a big lead against Mich St too, then Murray started throwing interceptions, and fumbling the ball away. No, it’s on Murray. Bobo had those defenses clueless. Murray just didn’t execute the whole game. Bobo coached Greene to an NCAA record number of wins, and Stafford to a national #2 finish in the AP poll. Not Bobo’s fault.

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

April 28th, 2012
5:52 pm

Anyone know when the slip and slide will be put out; I want to make sure I get a good spot in line at halftime;

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

April 28th, 2012
5:54 pm

Dream Team
Ring Team

Whats the catch phrase this year……………

Anyone know yet

I want to make sure I have it on my T-shirt at the first game

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

April 28th, 2012
5:55 pm

10 Win Team maybe????

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

April 28th, 2012
5:56 pm

The 1st half gang????????

Bubbs

April 28th, 2012
5:57 pm

Remember, Bobo’s QB’s average around 12 sacks a year. Murray has been at 25-33 sacks. In 2010, Murray had the #1 most experienced O-Line in the nation. In 2011, Murray had the largest, and 4 NFL draft picks. And Bobo’s QB’s just don’t get sacked much, Stafford, Cox, 12-15 sacks max per year. Murray is the issue.

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

April 28th, 2012
5:58 pm

The Run out of gas boys????

Neverplaythegame

April 28th, 2012
5:59 pm

Mason to start the first 4 games but Murray play 50% of it. Switch the roles on the game 5 on. So, when we have to sub Hudson (on the choking Murray time) he will no longer be a chicken frosh. I don’t think who really give a darn what I think!

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

April 28th, 2012
5:59 pm

The Uniform Changers????

Snoop Dawg

April 28th, 2012
6:00 pm

Bubbs, you are definitely in the weeds my friend. Try looking at the big picture…

Bob

April 28th, 2012
6:00 pm

Bubbs, you have zero credibility because you apparently don’t know how to research or you are too lazy to do so:

“Saban had 3 1st place SEC division finishes in a row at LSU, and 2 SEC division finishes in a row at Bama.”

SEC West Champs during the Saban years at LSU. It really isn’t hard to check. Maybe you should think before opening mouth and inserting foot.
2000 Auburn
2001 LSU
2002 Arkansas
2003 LSU
2004 Auburn

Dawg Bite

April 28th, 2012
6:08 pm

I have been sitting here looking at all of the Murray bashing, and this has been going on for quite some time now.I, personally agree with most of the comments about Murray and the poor decisions that he makes, etc.,etc. Guys, it ain’t gonna change as AM is CMR’s guy come H..L or High Water! He has never yanked AM in a game even when it is obvious to all that AM does not have it. So, we will just have to “grin and bear it”, and hope that AM has grown past his erratic play. Mason and LeMay will just be clip board guys until AM leaves, like it or not. They will be lucky to even play in mop-up roles if we ever will have that luxury.JMHO

Dawg Bite

April 28th, 2012
6:19 pm

Hate to change gears, but how does Perno keep his job? Is he a “LIFER” like Landers? His teams have been going nowhere since a few years back when they played in the championship game of the CWS. Thank goodness for tennis and golf!

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

April 28th, 2012
6:21 pm

At least Perno has taken his team to a championship game

Richt has done what?????????

LakeDawg

April 28th, 2012
6:29 pm

I can’t get a post to go through.

LakeDawg

April 28th, 2012
6:32 pm

I quit. CMR should too.

01HAWK

April 28th, 2012
6:43 pm

One more for Will Friend:

Former UAB offensive tackle Matt McCants was drafted in the sixth round by the New York Giants.

The 6-foot-5, 308-pound McCants was the 201st overall pick in the draft. The Mobile native becomes the first UAB player drafted since quarterback Joe Webb was a sixth-round choice by the Minnesota Vikings in 2009. McCants is the first UAB offensive lineman taken in the NFL draft.

McCants started 42 games during his UAB career, including 35 of the past 36 games.

Dogs Rule in 2012

April 28th, 2012
6:59 pm

this dog team will be special–the D will be loaded and the O has all kinds of dream team talent at running back. Look for an easy SEC east title and an upset win over alabama in the sec title game.

sports

April 28th, 2012
7:00 pm

What a stupid article, written by an idiot.

The Professor

April 28th, 2012
8:11 pm

And how many of these UGA bozos ever got past remedial reading?

Okay, I guess their agents can read the contract to them.

guillotine

April 28th, 2012
8:27 pm

how about that Caleb King? another dawg to be proud of.

guillotine

April 28th, 2012
8:28 pm

@Dogs Rule in 2012

please…

Dawgs

April 28th, 2012
10:35 pm

Which NFL scouts have you heard this from? Those scouts tell you that, huh? Not likely. For years UGA had many players drafted, lots in early rounds. Now they’re not, in part because of recruiting.

Rickdawg

April 28th, 2012
10:41 pm

Somebody needs to tell Murray, that Nick Saban is claiming HIS QB led Plant to the 2008 state championship, and NOT Murray. Ely led Plant to 3 state championships, according to Saban. But Murray says he did in 2008. Anyways, Murray’s teammate is now No. 2 as a Fresh behind AJ.
http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ely_phillip00.html

Brewmaster

April 28th, 2012
11:20 pm

Hey Bubbs, Richt has a winning record vs Saban. Go ahead and explain why this makes Saban a better coach. Didn’t you used to call yourself Marcus on this blog ?

guillotine

April 28th, 2012
11:24 pm

@Brewmaster…that was a really dumb post.

Rickdawg

April 28th, 2012
11:28 pm

Mike Bobo sounded pretty peeved at Murray after the Bowl game in his post interview on youtube, went on at beginning and end about Murray’s turnovers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgGaA9GsgKc&feature=relmfu

Rickdawg

April 28th, 2012
11:32 pm

Aaron Murray had some excuses in the LSU post game interview, explaining away his turnovers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxvi8S1Vz8I

Rickdawg

April 28th, 2012
11:37 pm

Aaron had some other interesting observations after the South Carolina loss, notice the way he handled the ? about the fumble, and the way Crowell handled the same ?, also, notice how Murray explained his sack fumble, Bobo again, not happy in the interview, worried about turnovers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Hhi6—kg

War Dang Dawg

April 28th, 2012
11:54 pm

Offensively, we’ve been soft since Richt arrived. I don’t think there’s any question that Georgia’s offensive style is more finesse than smashmouth.

Defensively, we became soft after Van Gorder left. Last year was the first year since he left that it felt different, more like the Pollack days. Hopefully that’ll be the norm under Grantham. But I don’t see the offense changing.

Rickdawg

April 28th, 2012
11:57 pm

The video highlights from the South Carolina game hurt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWtZ6PeNYtQ&feature=related

Bill Lee

April 28th, 2012
11:59 pm

Mediocrity, thy name Is Richt…

GT is 4th rate high school team

April 29th, 2012
12:01 am

The HC is perceived as soft as a down pillow. No surprise that his players are perceived that way as well.

Dawg Whisperer

April 29th, 2012
12:18 am

Ride Toll (Free) on AJC blogs… just bypass Tide Roll comments. Once you read his comments, you wish you had that time back and invested it more wisely. I already know what he has to say because it is all he has to say. Second verse, same as the first.

TNDAWG

April 29th, 2012
12:46 am

If new players contribute, we’ll be fine. Need some true and redshirt freshmen to step up. Great thing about college football, every year is new year and no one really knows what will happen. Every year the roster changes at least 20%. We are due to be real good and I have every reason to think we will be.

boykin

April 29th, 2012
1:16 am

Bill, this is HORSE…

boykin

April 29th, 2012
1:19 am

Dawgs perform well and you dang well know it……Thomas Jones-Jermaine Gresham- Stinchcomb..etal…giving blows…just to name a few…

boykin

April 29th, 2012
1:21 am

Bill…go throw an Ephus and rag on your Sox!

GORE-tex Tiger

April 29th, 2012
1:23 am

Rickdawg…bite on Aaron but the Dawgs had ZERO answer for LSU OFFENSE homeboy!

LAND Jacket

April 29th, 2012
1:26 am

Lake-you need to..

Red Dawn

April 29th, 2012
6:47 am

The Georgia Bull Dawgs had 7 players get drafted in the NFL draft.
Richt and company can recruit but has trouble getting them to
win BIG Games!! NC’S and SEC titles!!

CEPH

April 29th, 2012
8:23 am

The linemen look just like their coach, FAT AND OUT OF SHAPE. The pitiful part of it is that Richt didn’t even interview anyone but Friend when he hired him. If Richt is trying to tell me that Friend was the best he could do then he should go see a psychiatrist.Oh, I forgot Friend knew the terminology(at least that is what Richt said) what a stupid criteria for hiring a coach!!!!!!!

tell me avain

April 29th, 2012
8:36 am

Last year we won 10 games with literally no running game. That put Murray in a bad situatio. I see Murray improving this year based soly on the fact that a running game will be available.

Daily Crime Report

April 29th, 2012
9:00 am

AJC headline: Vikings RB King arrested for assault

Getting kind of old, isn’t it. And King is just one of many thugs recruited by St. Mark the Wretched.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

April 29th, 2012
9:05 am

Did the guy at the Party call Caleb King SOFT? LOL

I am so tired of hearing about Players from Georgia(the State & Teams) getting in trouble. I don’t mind hearing about players from Other States or Teams getting in trouble but I wish we had Players with better class.