Will multiyear scholarships give Dawgs a recruiting edge?

Interesting read, thanks Bill. What’s funny is when a kid received a scholarship in the past, I always assumed it was for 4 years, and that if they left the program it was one of the above mentioned reasons.

I am w/ Richt & McGarity on this one and if Spurrier hates it, I like the idea even more. Blieve me, if a kid becomes “lazy” at the school, he’ll make his way to the bench, quickly, and an eager and hardworking underclassman will gladly take his spot. Quite simple.

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Where is Richt’s contract extention?

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This is a JOB. The pay is room , board , books and tuition. The effect will be to make darn sure the guy has the right stuff for your program. I do not have a 4 year contract and I suspect many readers do not either. So, no performance you get to stay and keep another kid who will try hard and not be on the bubble. It takes up scholarships and will change the pecking order quite a bit. For every Lattimore there are quite a few bust outs.

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Good for Richt. This Tech fan agrees completely.

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Perhaps Steve Spurrier should improve his player evaluation techniques, SC Fan, if he doesn’t want that problem. Rather than lament the athletic performance of the unpaid player, it might make more sense to consider the millionaire coach that is either unable or unwilling to change his recruiting tactics.

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Why are they harping to fix something that isn’t broken? Offer the kid a scholarship, explain to him what is expected for him to keep it. What’s the problem? Richt wants the player inked on multi-year ironclad deals like his?

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ARdawg

February 22nd, 2012
10:43 am

Its to help stop oversigning. Satan usually renigs on a scholly and gives it to a new recruit so that he can sign around 25- 30 every year.

Basically no more trimming the fat to keep the oversigning going.

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Spurrier and Saban ONLY want these kids for their football ability, obviously, but there is a reason that it’s “student athlete” and not “athlete student”. Richt has pretty much guaranteed players a full ride as long as they behave, and maintain their studies. Nothing wrong with that. There is also a reason that Richt gets good players, even with his team being some what down for the past few years. Once Richt wins the SEC this year there will be even more players lining up to play for him. Richt has the bobbleheads in the media back on his side again after they all spent the last three years bashing him for Georgia’s poor play. When Richt gets his championship, the media will then have no choice but to showcase Richt’s accomplishments in his first head coaching job, all of which is in the strongest conference in America, with one of the best coaching records in the nation. His head to head record with all of the top teams in the SEC is respectable with the exception of UF of course. All of these toothless, idiot, Bama folks want to continuously make fun of Richt, and I am not sure of what, he has a winning record against Bama as well. There will be post soon from some D.A tobacco dribbling Bama idiot that will no doubt say that two of his wins against them was when Shula was coach. Hey Bama, if you had not been caught CHEATING AGAIN with that idiot water headed Dubois as your coach, maybe you would not have become so irrelevant, not our fault.

Oh and by the way, what kind of B.S. wrist slap is Spurrier going to get for his latest round of cheating and providing thousands of dollars in illegal benefits to SEVERAL players?

IF YOU CAN’T PLAY BY THE RULES, YOU SUCK, PERIOD.

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TDF
That’s throwing the baby out with the bathwater. There are other ways to stop oversigning if that is really what they wanted to do. Multi-year signing is all chafe and no wheat. More entitlement for athletes. I despise Spurrier but, he’s right.

Richt sounds like the whinny cry-baby. He’s getting out recruited in his own yard and wants to change the rules? Puleeezeee

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When Spurrier talks, people listen.

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ARdawg

February 22nd, 2012
10:59 am

Out recruited?????? Lets see over the past 7 years the team to sign the most top 10 players in the state of GA is………..

UGA at 31 next closest is 6 and then in third is…….. Bama with 4. Yes 4 top ten recruits in 7 years.

So who is out recruiting who?????

Richt is trying to whats right bby these kids. Satan doesnt want the rule then he cant force kids out to make room for others.

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AltamahaDawg

February 22nd, 2012
11:08 am

Cant wait for the ruling to come in on their 3 major violations!

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USC will lose a few more scholly’s but will continue their recent success vs Ga.

Ga has nobody that can block Jadeveon Clowney and Devin Taylor.

Ga has nobody that can tackle Marcus Lattimore (I think he has 689 broken tackles in 2 games vs them).

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TDF- I assume these 3 major violations are for SC right? What are they for?

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Pilfer Dawg

February 22nd, 2012
11:28 am

Yes for SC.

impermissable benefits to recruits and players totaling 55K, discounted hotel rooms at a local Columbia hotel for players and recruits. And then the big one failure to monitor both situations.

you dont hear about hear on the AJC though…….. well bc it doesnt bash UGA or GT in anyway.

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Nothing Could Be Finer- USC looks to be a good team next year but they will be without Alshon, Melvin, and Gilmore which will hurt, UGA is bringing a decent team next year too but you don’t apparently know that. I wouldn’t put all your offensive eggs in 1 Lattimore basket. You do remember he is coming off MAJOR acl surgery.

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USC will lose 3 more scholly’s.

Ga will depend on a bunch of freshmen to block Clowney and Taylor (scary).

Lattimore’s rehab is ahead of schedule.

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Alshon – Insert Ace Sanders
Melvin – Insert Jadeveon Clowney
Gilmore – Insert D.J. Swearinger.

Reload and repeat.

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Pilfer Dawg

February 22nd, 2012
11:33 am
Also Nothing Could Be Finer- You do remember Spurrier saying that UGA outplayed your team this past meeting but turnovers and trick plays allowed USC to escape with a win?
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Gutsy performance on the road.

Do you remember Aaron Murray being tossed around like a little rag doll by Clowney?

Prepare to see that again in October.

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I like Richt’s approach–it shows that he cares about the young men he recruits to his team. However, I don’t really see how the new rule really gives UGA an advantage if UGA has already been following this policy all along. I guess it helps that UGA can “officially” offer multi-year scholarships, but if they were offering the same thing “unofficially” before and other schools were doing the same, I fail to see how this changes the recruiting landscape much if at all.

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Nothing- Look up Spurrier’s comments on the game. He didn’t say gutsy performance. So you know more than Steve Spurrier about how the game went? Please respond.

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Spurrier is just saying that his team played poorly and still beat Ga on the road.

He’s good at that.

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Nothing Could Be Finer

February 22nd, 2012
11:34 am

they will lose more than 3 and land on probation.

UGA has 17OL that can compete (Only 2 are freshman) so……

Yea running may be ahead of schedule but one good knock to the knee and he is out again. Let me know when he is taking full contact on that knee

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Nothing Could Be Finer

February 22nd, 2012
11:37 am

You resting on that one play???? Of course some one thats 250+ can throw around a 200 lb guy, thats what DL are supposed to do moron. Complete luck that Murray dropped the ball, had he not let it dangle it never would have come out.

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I think somebody must have done the math for Spurrier on just how expensive Hotel suites and liquid tabs can be over a 4 yr period.

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ARdawg, it was McGarity pushing this, not Richt. It’s the way Florida handles it (and not coincidentaly OSU now). And othere SEC schools.

Regional newspapewrs tend to ask Coaches for thier opinion on sport topics. What exactlky did you want the man to say?

And to be fair (which you are not) Richt NEVER said anything about this being a recruiting advantage, in fact said he already was doing this. What he really said was that he supported it to be a better deal for his kids. You are just making up stuff now, to call this whinny cry baby.

The big question is this: if this were an advantage and Richt was the one asking for it, HOW is a that a bad thing to you?

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Actually ARDawg, what you aught to do is read some more detailed stories on this particular topic. I think you will find a couple of facts that don’t really back up your ealier posts.

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Nothing Could Be Finer

February 22nd, 2012
12:10 pm

hahahaha wow what kind of kool aid do they serve in Columbia for you to even contimplate making this idiotic comment???

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TDF

Here’s a stat for you to gauge recruiting;
UGA in the last 3 years record 24 wins -16 losses, 0 championships

Alabama in the last 3 years 36 wins – 4 losses 1 SEC Championship, 2 National championships.

Now whom is out recruiting whom?

Get yer head out yer anus

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Well to the degree that this has anything to do with THAT, you need to take up with Bill King. He is the one that mentioned Saban, (which I don’t think you even got his point about).

But no, that’s not what I was talking about. I was talking about the realities of the stories and the context of Richt’s comments, and your complete obvious twisting of it all.

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TDF I know that it pains most of us as true dawg fans to say it, but Spurrier is a better coach than Coach Richt, Clowney is better than Drew and yes Shaw is probably better than Murray. Until Murray can win big games rather than give SC 3 TD’s from bonehead turnovers the only thing he has better than Shaw is stats, but they are against poor teams.

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Although Muschamp offered 4 year scholarships to this years recruiting class, I doubt seriously if is affecting kids wanting to turn pro after 3 years anyway. I hate to admit it but Spurrier is correct about the what if’s in his comments. And NONE OF US needs to talk about player evaluations either as far as character; USC, UF AND UGA have ALL suffered our share of player arrests so lets not get high and mighty about Richt building men of character. They are football coaches pure and simple and should be judged by that and that alone. That is why they get paid 3mill + per year.

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Spurrier thinks players should not get multi-year deals.
But coaches should right?
How many coaches would work under a one year only agreement for their services?
What are the options for a school that has an agreement with a Coach for a multi year agreement and he does not produce….only a huge buyout when fired.

Quite treating players like they are indentured servants.

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Aaron Murray sling it around?

February 22nd, 2012
1:01 pm

Murray is hands down better than Shaw, not even close. Shaw is going to get broken in half playing a full SEC schedule if he keeps running it.

Lots of Murrays problems are caused by having no running game and no OL. His biggest problem besides those is that he stares down 1 receiver.

Lets see Shaw play a full year and see how well he does.

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Auburn offer 4 year…Hell they can’t anybody at auburn already!!!! Why will they offer 4 years with 42% of the last three recruiting classes already gone from the ghetto twins!! Bill you if you intend to pen these articles then at least take the time to ask someone what he takes for a scholly to be pulled from a player as of today!!!! Come back tomorrow with that info for these blind fools will understand that a coach can’t pull the scholly already! Yes UGA needs something to sell these kids but a bogus plan for 4 years will not get it done. You folks are just pitiful and all you got is trying to talk Nick Saban down to your level of play at UGA. You embarrass yourself but continue your envy.

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Perhaps Spurrier shouldactuall READ thel NCAA legislation before he says something as stupid as “how can we get rid of player that don’t particiapte”. Same as you do now, ball coach.

Rates up there with the idea of head coaches paying players out of thier pocket. Brilliant.

He is officially the SEC’s crazy old uncle now.

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Academic scholarships aren’t guaranteed. You have to perform to keep them. But I think Saban abuses the system. Multi-year or year to year, I don’t really care just as long as the NCAA mandates that all have to play by the same rules. I bet the Sabans and Spurriers of the world might not like year to year scholarships if their athletes could either resign or walk away to another school at the end of each year. Now that would really balance the playing field and make both players and coaches work harder.

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Quite treating players like they are indentured servants., Come on dude they are getting a FREE education if they had the sense to take advantage of it.

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Excellent point. If players had the right to move around freely, the feeling might change.

ON the other point, here is a caption on why the argument is different (and why the NCAA pushed this move to multi-year) :

“”"Another complaint: Athletes should have scholarships reviewed annually like academic scholarships. Using what barometer?

Academic scholarships are usually reviewed annually based on classroom performance, such as grade-point averages. What benchmark do you use to evaluate a player buried on the depth chart? How many “voluntary” workouts he missed? A coach’s word when he oversigns and needs a scholarship?

Also, universities don’t change academic missions overnight. More journalism students don’t suddenly get cut to recruit more business majors. There’s no installation of the spread offense in academics that leaves a student high and dry.”"”"”

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That wasn’t meant as a disgreement to your point 59, I just found the columnist’s argument interesting.

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AltamahaDawg
February 22nd, 2012
1:30 pm

Great post and response. I have refrained from posting about that point, but you just said it beautifully. A 3.5 GPA is just that to know how an academic scholarship student is doing, but how do you grade a 4th string OT as compared to a 1st string RB?

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But to answer you question; When a 4th string OT blows his assignment, the 1st string RB gets all the blame.

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How common a practice is it for coaches to cut a 4th string scholarship player to make room on the roster?

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Jacket99…..Sitting on the POLE!!!! Will you watch the twins tomorrow?

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I’ve got news for Spurrier, it shouldn’t be that hard to get a kid kick out for academic fraud even at South Carolina, you know like when he’s has someone else write a Term paper for him or in SC’s case a essay.
selah

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Carl Edwards is on a mission. I don’t know if I will be able to watch it tomorrow or not. I’ll certainly try!

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First off. The “oversigning” angle came in later. You first comment had nothing to do with it. You said your objection was more to do with Richt wanted kids on something ironclad like him. (we can only assume that meant that no matter what either does). Simply not true. Richt’s not ironclad, NOR would the 5 yr scholarship offers be. Truth be told, its barely a technical change in how its handled now.

But my main point was that you purposely represented this to be Richt’s Idea. Just him whinning like a crybaby (because Saban was so much better).

I invited you to learn what it was about first becasue this was brewing inside the NCAA long before now. THEY wanted it. McGarity is the one pushing it here. Slive WILL be pushing it real soon to all SEC members. The Big10 is mostly all there already.

Somebody ASKED Richt if he thought it was a good thing. And not even here, not in the context of recruiting. King was quoting him from a month ago when somebody asked him about the NCAA ruling…..and how it affected the well being of kids .and what did he say? “well, we basically always have anyway” Well shucks. What the heck would he say?

So tell me how that is just obviously getting his butt kicked and HIM trying to change the rules?

and BTW< Spurrier is just FACTUALLY wrong. he has the exact same leverage over lazy kids with this as he did with a one years deal.

PLus, don't do it. It's not a mandate. It's just something that is now OK to do. Sounds like UGA is just going to follw AU and FL, and adopt it.

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Which BTW, I believe you are completely missing the point. Its not a cure for over signing (which isnt the problem), but it IS a major piece of the puzzle in roster management. This whole thing started out of the BIG 10, and its a very good idea for college football. Richt is on the correct side of this, and it will be pretty much the norm real soon.

Spurrier is just factually incorrect, well, he is purposely making a vague and misleading statement rather. He knows darn well, that the rules to get rid of a player are still going to be pretty much the same as they are now.

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Mark Richt proves again with his comments on this issue that his first priority is a young man’s future, not what a young man can do for him just during football season.

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UGA seriously needs to beat the ever loving snot out of Spurrier and shut their pieholes in 2012

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Well there sare 2 sides to the roster managment story. One is a competitive issue. The other is the welfair of the college kids involved. This one is being universally hailed as good for the second one, even if its in the context of the first. I see no shame in that.

But sticking to the first, which seems to be your point. What other actions are you talking about, why do they make this one a bad idea in addition?

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now bill maybe

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AltamahaDawg

February 22nd, 2012
2:48 pm
You don’t “re-earn” your yearly athletic scholarship. It’s basically an automatic renewal UNLESS a coach can give reasons (which the player can apeal). Some conferences have actual committes to review the reasons.

All this does is clarifies the term to be 5 years, as pretty much what all coaches and schools intended when they signed the kid, and give very specific reason for dismissals, a list that I cannot imagine anybody would disagree with.
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Thanks for clarifying that for me. I wasn’t sure if the coaches were answerable to a higher authority when it came to revoking a player’s scholarship or cutting a scholarship player.

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Appearantly, Spurrier is unaware that players used to be on 4 yr scholarships and all those fictitious players refusing to lift weights, or show up, were handled somehow.

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CSS has the GYM Dawgs TV show on. I guess that is where everybody went.

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LOL

You UGA fans are something else; you guys slam Saban and Spurrier for not wanting long term scholarships

LOL

And you wonder why your program cant win the big one

Like Spurrier stated what if the guy comes in and doesnt do what he is supposed to do; then you are stuck with him

Umm in the real world Dawg fans you dont sign contracts with your company; you perform or you are fired and thats the way it should be taught to these kids as well

But because Richts does something a certain way; you UGA fans follow what the Pied Piper does

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Still@theKool-aidBAR

February 22nd, 2012
2:06 pm
Well I see COMMINGS did Something the School found to be outside of the Student Code of Conduct. I hope he has stopped dating the CRAZY chick. He will avoid a lot of issues if he leaves her at the curb.
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Reading about UGA’s Director of Student Conduct handing down the verdict reminded me of Dean Wormer giving the Deltas double secret probation. Not making fun of an unfortunate situation, just remembering a funny movie.

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Altamaha

On your other statement, they don’t want to solve the problem. Think about it, is it really that complex?

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Coach Sick Satan = Scum

Tweak your knee and he leave you twisting in the wind.

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Is that a pledge pin on your uniform, Kool-Aid?

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Not as complicated as that matrix you described. They recruit kids as young as sophomores. How on earth are they going to administer that system that you described. They don’t know how many scholarships are going to be available years in advance.. OFFERS have never been the problem. Your system will cause some schools to show up with half the players as others.

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Anticipation. There’s nothing to stop them from recruiting sophomores. The nut cutting comes down to seniors. Make an offer 30 days, 60 days, 90 days whatever. It’s not complicated. A kid cannot accept or reject until the offer is on the table. When it is on the table, the coach has to make good on it. Whats the big deal?

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So offer a sophomore, and he has 3 month to make a decision about where he is going to college 3 yrs later? And what if all those coaches get fired before he is even a senior in highschool?

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Why are you worried about “offers”. nobody has ever said offers was a problem. Nobody says saban offers too many kids. the critisism he gets is taking a “committment” then withdrawing the offer. oversigning and culling is not a function of offering a chance to commit to a scholarship

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It will make no difference whatsoever for 4-5* recruits. They will already have the self-confidence to know that they can do enough on the field to retain their scholarship each year. It will only be a selling point to a marginal talent or one that has a weak work ethic.
If you’re confident in your abilities, then it has no value to you.

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Bill you don’t ever mind making it obvious of your hatred/jealousy toward the other coach’s and their respective schools. Grow up man. And UGA doesn’t need a recruiting advantage, they got Mark Richt. So just because another coach disagree’s with you and Richt doesn’t mean that are contradicting or stupid. Get over it. Richt isn’t a saint either.

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When a kid accepts an offer to play football, there should be strict guidelines as to what it takes to retain that scholarship year after year. The kid meets them, he keeps his scholly, underperforming on the field would not be one. When a coach signs the kid, he’s got him for better or worse if he’s followed the rules

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hey Wet Willie…..what is your deal man…..we all agree UGA hasn’t done very well lately…and no one can compare long term with Univ. of Alabama in football…..everyone also knows and acknowledges that Coach Saban is the current top coach in the US…..but your smack is beyond boring…..you always attack, no matter how weakly, both UGA and the state of Georgia….Coach Saban would advise you to keep your less than scholarly pen in its holster as the last thing he wants his great recruits from Georgia to see is some ill advised, uninformed negative comment about the state of Georgia……lighten up man….every Dog alum and fan I know has always had the utmost respect for Alabama, the University and the state….Alabama is more than a cousin, it’s like a brother to Georgia, all but the Mobile area having been part of the state of Georgia that was subdivided into Alabama and Mississippi following the Great Yazoo Land Scandal of 1795….but, I’m sure you already know that…..so most of us look at Alabama like family…..but something has scarred you deeply about the state of Georgia and maybe UGA, but I suspect it is rooted in your obvious hatred for the state, as is clearly demonstrated in your many derogatory utterances about Georgia and it’s people…..But, I finally had to say something, and I don’t think you will stop, so if you insist on being the king of negativity, could you please get a consultant to help you be more creative….you, like this boring TDF guy with his maniacal haha s and childish retorts, need some new material…..you lament the same things the same way over and over and over again….you are really, truly one boring hotheaded individual….other than that, you seem like a super guy.

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“Sanders Commings was determined to have “engaged in physical abuse, physical intimidation, coercion and/or other conduct that threatened or endangered the health or safety of another person,” according to the resolution agreement, signed by Sanders Commings this past Friday. That’s a violation Regulation 3 of the school’s conduct code.”
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Mark Richt was wrong, you said, to have Suspended Sanders Commings before the facts were known by you you said when in the proceedings ongoing against him the facts then only would be known, forget that Mark Richt heard it directly all the facts himself, you said.

You lied about it, tried to cover it up, and tried to point to other schools who also have 6′ 2″ and 217 lbs with 4.46 speed in the 40-yard dash rated the # 39 best cornerback in the nation, our # 19, who also you said physically asserted themselves on a little co-ed also a student at The University of Georgia. I have no sympathy for a man of this stature, or any stature, to lift an arm to a little gal. You are on record here as making excuses, and now you have egg on your face for it, don’t you ?

So, where are all the posters who said that Sanders Commings did

NOTHING WRONG ?

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Where is the URL Link to the 17 February Open Records’ Document with Sanders Commings’ signature on it of the facts of abuse of a little girl by a 6′ 2″ and 217 lbs starting football player that contradicts every DISNEYdawgs.com post to these blogs over this entire nearly 2 months ?

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I didn’t need no stinking’ multi-year contract . . . uh, scholarship, I mean. Sheee! Give us stars our due, people.

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New addition to strength staff hired, reports are that he is a speed coach, has worked with Reggie Bush, Aaron Murray, others. Hopefully will be great addition to staff. Here’s hoping players will “Rise to the occasion”, as Erk used to say.

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faithfuldawg86, I agree with you that CMR has integrity and class but he is NOT and I repeat NOT a “heck of a coach”. I don’t know what set of criteria you use to determine that but you need to find a new set.

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SugarHillDawg February 23rd, 2012 8:16 am

“faithfuldawg86, I agree with you that CMR has integrity and class but he is NOT and I repeat NOT a “heck of a coach”. I don’t know what set of criteria you use to determine that but you need to find a new set.”
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SugarHillDawg, well said sir. Mark Richt is a fine man and a world-class recruiter. What he has accomplished with his average # 8 recruiting class for 12 years in a row, has been mediocre looking at his last years where he has gone only 67-30 vs teams with equal or worse talent than he has for us. 30 losses in 8 years vs teams with worse or equal talent does not the best coach in The SEC make. It makes 4 losses a season to teams with lesser or equal talent for 8 solid years of excruciating losses we should have won. This is not from lack of talent but from lack of coaching and motivation and preparation and keeping his players out of Trouble. Yes, if the coach gets credit for averaging # 8 recruiting class 12 years in a row, and then the recruit gets kicked off the team, suspended, arrested, asked to leave, forced to leave, forced out, or transfers as a result, the coach is responsible then as well, sir.

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Tubbs wife in deep doo doo? Was she drinking?

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I’m still confused about why the OL from Maryland is restricted from transferring to ACC schools and Vandy if he is sitting out a year. I always thought the rule was that if the athlete sat out a year as a “penalty” they could play anywhere that would take them?

I thought you could only put restrictions if you were “releasing” the player and he could play immediately. Seems to me that the penalty of having to sit out a season would be enough to curb an epidemic of player transfers which would be bad for college football.

What is to stop a coach from putting the following restriction on any of his players that want to transfer (cannot transfer to the big 12, pac 12, big 10, SEC, ACC, Big East, or Mountain West… other than that, he can play for anyone that he wants to after sitting out the year?)

I am not for huge numbers of guys transferring and it is pretty rare now so I guess the rules are working from that standpoint. It just seems like in a scenario where a Georgia player’s family member became ill and a player wanted to move back to New Jersey and play for Rutgers would be a reasonable thing to want to do in certain cases. I’m sure that Richt would grant such a player immediate release, but what is to stop a coach from saying that the player can’t transfer to another Div 1 team?

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I just want to remind everyone that there are three (3) games that UGA barely lost between 2002 and 2007 that would have sent us to the BCS Championship Game. Take any of those games and turn them into a win and UGA is playing for the Naty Title! CMR’s teams have been close, very close. CMR can only build his players up and expect them to make plays when its their turn. If they dont make the play then the game turns and UGA ends up on the wrong end of the stick. Just give him a couple more years (might even be in 2012) with this new D and they will be playing for a BSC ring! Go Dawgs!

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Richt can’t win the big ones
That’s plain to see
His players are trash
On that we all agree

BURMA SHAVE

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That was one of my points, Charlie, that despite talented teams in ‘02, ‘03, ‘04, ‘05, ‘07, and ‘08, UGA always loses a game or two they shouldn’t. Usually because of underperforming assistants, but that’s still on Richt. He also hasn’t pulled of a good upset in years – Tech in ‘09 was hardly an upset.

I hope it changes, but really, why would it? We had another dream team back in ‘07 and ‘08, and Richt and Co found a way to lose 5 games in those 2 years.

Doesn’t matter, Richt and Co are here for 4-5 more years miminum, and I hope he proves me wrong.

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Bill, you should not let posts like that of BURMA SHAVE stay up on your blog.

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Jacket99 rides again!

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TDF (True Dawg Fan)

February 22nd, 2012
12:02 pm
ARdawg

February 22nd, 2012
11:57 am

ahahahhaha wow focus on your arguement, dont change it bc you got schooled. Your original arguement was that he owns this state. I clearly disproved it. (FYI those stats are from Rivals)

He doesnt get who he wants either, you basically just told satan he is an idiot bc if he gets who he wants then that means he hates top GA talent????

If he gets who he wants then why did Jordan Jenkins not pick Bama????

Learn about recruiting before you open you big dumb mouth moron.

As for his 2 titles, good for him, he does it by reloading year after year with oversigning and grey shirting. Until his trimming the fat technique is blocked he will continue to do so. (FYI they should have never been there this year to begin with, OKIE state EARNED that shot NOT BAMA

Once again True Dawg Tur?

You have shown your ignorance and untruthful attitude while being a full blown sore loser with no skill sets what so ever. “OKSU earned their way into the BCS CG” but they lost it when they lost to IOWA St and Alabama proved it when they spanked LSU in the CG.

You need to grow up and learn before you post lies and garbage that makes no sense and prove how big of an idiot you really are.

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Nothing Could Be Finer
February 22nd, 2012
11:36 am

Reload and repeat.

There can’t be a REPEAT, you have to WIN the East to do that, and you didn’t, idiot. hahahahahahaha

Dawgs roll to the dome and beat Bama, then on to a BCS game…sweeeeeeettttttt !!!!

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Dog in Nam

February 23rd, 2012
6:10 pm

Dog in Nam.

I meant no disrepect to the Bulldawg nation as a whole.; Most of rant was directed to a couple of bloggers on every article written who write that “other coaches lie to recruits”.

As a guy who worked in the Athletic Offices at One ACC school and two SEC schools over a 35 year period, I know 99.9% of all “Head Coaches” are Great people and do everything in their power to live within the rules and provide each student athlete with the opportunity to leave the school with a degree in their back pocket for their future. Now I will say some assistant coaches,( mostly the young ones and a few old ones) are often the ones who do anything and everything in their aresenal to get a kid to sign with them until their AD, Head Coach or Compliance Director shuts them down.

Take UGAKev’s comments above, he has no clue what he is taking about. He is using generalizations created and magnified by others who want to find any and everything to make them feel better about themselves. When in all actuality there have been 18 or 19 student athletes during the past 6 seasons who could not pass the physical as required by the NCAA and the SEC along with the Collegiate Medicine Act to play football at Alabama. The funny thing is at Texas during that same time has had 29 players who could not pass the physical and went onto medical scholarships.

Look at Jarvis Jones, he could not pass the physical at USC but sat out a year and at UGA he was able to rest, rehab and play and play very very well. Others are not as fortunate.

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I’ll confess that I didn’t read all four pages of comments but here are mine. Scumbags that want to win at all cost (like Nick Saban) will always find ways to run off kids he “doesn’t need” anymore. This is disgusting and reprehensible. With that said, I am all for the four year scholarship AND more policing of the dirty tricks that head coaches play on young kids. P.S. for the record I don’t have a dog in this SEC fight. I am a Washington State fan (yes, pray for me) living in Georgia.

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Jan Kemp

February 23rd, 2012
9:46 pm
I’ll confess that I didn’t read all four pages of comments but here are mine. Scumbags that want to win at all cost (like Nick Saban) will always find ways to run off kids he “doesn’t need” anymore. This is disgusting and reprehensible. With that said, I am all for the four year scholarship AND more policing of the dirty tricks that head coaches play on young kids. P.S. for the record I don’t have a dog in this SEC fight. I am a Washington State fan (yes, pray for me) living in Georgia.

How funny, making up lies about coaches while using a handle with one of the biggest scandals in college football.

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It may well give Georgia a recruiting edge. It will not, unfortunately, give us an edge in the winning football games business. There is a big difference between the two at Georgia. The quality of coaching accepted at Georgia is not what is appropriate for an elite, storied football program. Wake up, Bill!

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The rule is not mandatory for each college, so the effect may be marginal since we all know some coaches aren’t going to pay attention to it anyway. It is the same as the 25 limit in recruiting goes that the SEC instituted. Just another rule with very little if any effect on certain coaches. Some coaches are masters at getting around rules and the intent of them, and finding any loop holes that exist. For UGA, this rule just makes it official, the way that UGA looks at commitments anyway, since CMR has always considered a recruit is signed to a 4 year scholarship unless he messes up outside of football. Sometimes it pays dividends and sometimes, like in the case, where we had the OL, leave after we had him on the team and brought him in as a medical red shirt, only to have him leave for VT. As long as the SEC and NCAA continue to make rules that nobody follows strictly and has enough loop holes to drive a bus through, there will be coaches willing to use those loop holes.
It all amount to money when it gets down to it, so you will never see anything come out of the SEC or the NCAA, that protects the young kid, no matter what. It is up to the individual coaches to do what is right, and I can assure you, there are plenty of them, that could care less about doing what is best for the kid, as long as the keep winning.

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Leon,

Nobody said or at least I didn’t that Saban cheats. In fact, I didn’t mention his name. He simply finds ways around the loose regulations that the SEC and NCAA produce. It is up to each individual to judge how they feel about it. For some folks, football is the dominant thing in their life, for whatever reason. Some others, may be rabid fans of our schools, but don’t confine ourselves to just the sport alone.

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Bama fans be glad people are bashing you. That means in college football your on the mountain top. Better that than the Shula years when nobody cared

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Strange as it seems, Nebraska gives players the same deal, 4 yrs,
Pelini stated that if the kid isn’t good enough to make the grade, it isn’t his fault, it’s ours, we made the wrong assessment. He still gets his education. Great Universities led by Christian men, whom I hope meet in a bowl game soon. Bleed Husker Red and love the Dawgs. GBR/Go Dawgs

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It’s pretty simple…the ones that want the out want to trade up instead of admittin that they didn’t get the evaluation on the kid right. Spurrier can say what if they don’t live up to their end of the bargain, and that’s a fair question. I would say that if the kid isn’t doing what he’s supposed to, then that’s grounds for termination of the agreement. But more times than not, it’s simply that the player hasn’t panned out to be the player they thought he would.
If the effort is there but the results aren’t, you made the evaluation so it’s just as much on you. If the effort isn’t, you have the out. Pretty logical to me.

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@evillurks for your information.Bama is #8 in the top 25, Georgia’s not even in the top 25. But then again your from Georgia and not expected to know how to read. LMAO ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!

Team (BCS ranking)
Graduation rate

1.
Stanford (13)
86%

2.
Miami, Fla. (22)
81%

3.
Iowa (18)
79%

Virginia Tech (23)
79%

5.
TCU (4)
71%

Missouri (6)
71%

7.
Nebraska (14)
68%

8.
Alabama (7)
67%

LSU (12)
67%

NCAA Bowl Subdivision average
67%

10.
Nevada (24)
66%

11.
Boise State (3)
65%

Wisconsin (10)
65%

13.
Florida State (16)
64%

Mississippi State (21)
64%

Baylor (25)
64%

16.
Auburn (1)
63%

Ohio State (11)
63%

18.
Utah (8)
62%

19.
Oklahoma State (17)
59%

20.
South Carolina (20)
57%

21.
Michigan State (5)
55%

Arkansas (19)
55%

23.
Oregon (2)
54%

24.
Arizona (15)
48%

25.
Oklahoma (9)
44%

* Average four-year graduation rates for players entering school from 2000-03

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Florida has been doing this for years! Athletic Director, Foley, put such a policy in place years ago. That was one of the beefs Steve Spurrier had that resulted in him leaving UF. It hasn’t been a recruiting advantage for UF. Look at Alabama – it’s well known that Satan will send a player packing; yet, he still gets pretty much whomever he wants. Kids don’t think about this. They believe that they are invincible and since they are such great football players, noting will happen to them.

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@ Bama Mike – As of 2011, Bamer is #31! That’s no where close to #8!!!

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I love CMR but Gene Chizik and Auburn made the decision to offer 5 year scholarships THIS YEAR – in writing on the offer sheet! ANY SEC team could have done the same. I believe Auburn was the only SEC school to actually do it.

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