Georgia and Georgia Tech will meet again in football Saturday in Athens — sort of.
Brett Johnson and Paul Floyd of UGA’s Redcoat Band tell me that the Redcoats’ football team will be playing something called the White Team, an unofficial aggregation allegedly consisting of band members from that school on North Avenue, at noon Saturday at Southeast Clarke Park, 4440 Lexington Road in Athens.
Just in case you might be one of those folks who mistakenly considers the members of the band to be anything less than gung-ho iron men, you should know that they play full-contact tackle football and, Brett noted, like rugby, “the only padding is a mouthpiece and hopefully forgiving grass.”
Sounds like the sandlot games my brothers and I used to love playing with our friends when we were kids (only we didn’t even bother with the mouthpieces).
Saturday’s game, dubbed Band Bowl III, is the third annual clash since the series was revived after an undertermined number of years off (no one recalls exactly). The Wreck won 28-7 in Athens in 2010 and the Redcoats took a 14-7 victory last year in Atlanta, so this is the rubber match of the current series.
Brett said that “because of the unpolished enthusiasm of both rosters, the teams lean heavy on solid running games and sound defense. This produces old-school football in an authentic form. A nuanced part of the in-state rivalry, the passion for the game outweighs the hatred between the two squads who shared a few laughs after last year’s hard fought game.”
Among the highlights of last year’s game were a successful Redcoats goal line stand led by since-graduated defensive tackle and sousaphone player Nathan Lawrence and a deep fade caught by sophomore saxophone player Carl Schmidt. The game is played by NCAA rules and is officiated by volunteer intramural officials. The clock is run flag football-style, meaning four 15-minute quarters and a 15-minute halftime. There are no goal posts, so no field goals. Extra points are decided NFL Blitz-style — you can choose a “free” extra point or try for 2 from the 3-yard line. The ball is put into play from the 40-yard line with either a kick from a tee or a punt. There is no rushing of a punt. All special teams plays are two-hand touch for safety purposes. All other plays are live, tackle football.
Sounds like a lot of fun. If you see this in time and are in the vicinity of Southeast Clarke Park, stop by to cheer on the Red and Black and get a taste of football a bit like the way it started out in early gridiron days.
Go Redcoats!
Now, let’s get to some Junkyard Mail …
Jim Parry writes: Bill, It’s disgusting how conferences are throwing traditions out the window on what seems to be a daily basis. The SEC schools thrive on tradition. Our alumni and fans (at least ones over 25) are as stubborn (in the best way possible) as they come to changes. From uniforms and cheers, all the way to scheduling. I will find it very sad if the oldest rivalry in the South [Georgia-Auburn] comes to an end as an annual series. The SEC stands out on top, with only a couple other conferences that try to hold on to most of their traditions. Heck, too many like the Big (L)East never had any traditions, and look at them now.
You’re preaching to the choir with me, Jim. Having to discontinue Georgia-Auburn and Alabama-Tennessee would be pretty major collateral damage in exchange for adding Missouri and Texas A&M to the conference. Especially if it’s done just to avoid adding a ninth conference game. But those nonconference cupcake games are moneymakers and that’s what rules in the $EC.
Mark D. writes: I read this week that Coach [Todd] Grantham has that NFL mentality, that he wants his starters to play for the entire game if they can. The obvious upside to that is that he’s playing at all cylinders till the closing whistle. But isn’t there an obvious downside? Unlike in the NFL, where even the bench players already have a lot of experience under their belts, the underclassmen at the college level are still young guys trying to learn and develop. Isn’t Coach Grantham doing the future defense a disservice by not giving the second- and third-string players a chance to gain experience and development? On the same token, last season exposed another serious downside to Coach Grantham’s philosophy. Whenever teams started playing under a quick gun, no-huddle offense, our D-line got gassed so quickly. Isn’t Grantham’s personnel scheme placing dangerously heavy reliance on a select few players?
While Grantham likes his starters to play as much as possible, backups did get playing time this past season. But you make a good point, especially about giving younger players game experience. It’s an argument that proponents of guaranteed playing time for the backup quarterback have made as well. If Aaron Murray takes all the meaningful snaps at QB, an injury to him is going to mean a dramatic drop-off in game experience when the second-stringer takes over. For some reason, though, Mark Richt and Mike Bobo turned the page on that approach after the David Greene-D.J. Shockley era was over.
Daniel Colding writes: Hey Junkyard Dude, I am a bigtime UGA Fan. How many more Recruits do you thing UGA will sign for 2012 and who? What about the 6′7″ 350 lb. O-lineman Claudyson Calixte from the College of Sequoyas? I see on ESPN.com he is considering us. I would love for them to add a couple more bigguns on the O-line. Thanks, man.
Junkyard Dude is no recruiting guru, but from what I read most of those who follow that aspect of the game closely expect UGA to add a few names to the 2012 signing class before the season starts. In particular, DawgNation reports Fehoko Fanaika, a top JUCO offensive lineman at College of San Mateo in California, is getting a close look by Georgia. And defensive back/athlete Mario Alford, a real speedster, of Georgia Military College in Milledgeville is another player who might wind up in Athens before very long. Oh, and Dude, you’re welcome!

When is Mike Bobo really due the credit/blame? (University of Georgia)
Bilbo700 writes: Bill, Two things about the debate among fans about Mike Bobo’s value to the UGA program really bother me, irrespective of how I personally feel about him. First, I often hear fans defend his performance by saying things like, “Bobo didn’t throw that interception” or “it’s not his fault the back fumbled in the red zone.” I think as the OC, Bobo is at least indirectly responsible for everything his offense does, and logically, if Bobo can’t be blamed for terrible execution, he also shouldn’t be credited for exceptional execution — Bobo also doesn’t make one-handed catches or break tackles. Second, I often hear that Bobo is an exceptional recruiter — he very well may be a standout in what has become a very competitive enterprise. But with some of the inherent advantages UGA has in recruiting (only in-state recruiting powerhouse, only in-state SEC school, enormous local talent pool, proximity to Atlanta, solid academics, track record of sending players to NFL, strong fanbase, and even popular uniforms), I’m not totally convinced Bobo deserves all the credit he gets for recruiting. Do we really believe having a different OC, who would likely have a more impressive resume and better name recognition, would hurt us substantially in recruiting? I’m curious to get your (and your readers’) thoughts.
I’ll grant you that the argument about coaches taking the blame/credit for what happens on the field cuts both ways, though perhaps the position coaches figure more directly in that than the offensive coordinator. (Of course, Bobo is also the quarterbacks coach, so give him the credit or blame there.) But while you’re correct about UGA having a lot of positives that attract recruits, I don’t it’s accurate to say that the big-name signees Bobo has been credited with landing would have come to Athens no matter who was recruiting them. Too many players on signing day cite the personal relationships they forge with the coaches recruiting them for that to be the case.
Andrew Smith writes: Hi Bill, I’ve been contemplating UGA’s tendencies when favored. When reminiscing on past seasons I find myself more comfortable with and even relishing being the underdawg rather than the anticipated favorite. It has seemed as though the Dawg coaches and players feel the same. In your opinion, will the 2012 Dawgs be able to take care of business when favored?
While most coaches (though not necessarily the players) would rather enter a game as the underdog, I believe the only time Georgia was favored during the 2011 season and didn’t win was the bowl game against Michigan State. In the losses to Boise State, South Carolina and LSU, the opponent was favored. So I don’t believe you can say that the Dogs can’t handle playing as the favorite.

Does Aaron Murray lock in on his primary receiver too much? (Associated Press)
Seth Ford writes: Dear Bill, Thank you for your dedicated insight into all things Georgia! Am I the only fan frustrated with Aaron Murray’s receiver selection? Aside from the rare fullback or tailback screens (which were commonly executed poorly and/or defended well), I rarely saw him resort to a screen or short pass to the flat. Particularly with [Brandon[ Boykin or [Branden] Smith in the backfield, it was amazing how much space the opposing defenses would give those guys as they ran to the flat — probably because they knew we never throw to them! Murray never even looked their way, opting more often than not to force a ball downfield to a triple-covered Orson Charles than give the open back a chance to make a play in space. Five-yard passes can get you 20 yards as much as a 20-yard pass can! I see David Greene’s ability and willingness to use these short passes in key situations as a big reason he had the success he did. Keeping the defense honest in these areas of the field would probably open other things up, too! Your thoughts?
I’m with you on this. I think reading defenses and going more quickly to the second and third receivers instead of trying to force a play to the primary receiver is one of the areas where Murray needs to make the greatest improvement.
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140 comments Add your comment
Neutral
February 11th, 2012
7:00 pm
Too out of touch to be a GT grad…..and a……
Still@theKool-aidBAR
February 11th, 2012
7:01 pm
Neutered…… next I guess you will break the story that Grant is buried in Grants Tomb.
Neutral
February 11th, 2012
7:02 pm
Total MEATHEAD!!!!
Neutral
February 11th, 2012
7:04 pm
Yes, Grant is correct as is “meathead”. Wow, batting a thousand!!!
Still@theKool-aidBAR
February 11th, 2012
7:10 pm
so you are so so so smart do you know the 1 other name I use on the other blogs? I have 3 names I use on different blogs. If you are nice I think my DAWG buddy Dawg48 will give you clues or just tell you Sherlock.
kybodawg
February 11th, 2012
7:37 pm
it just wont be the same in november if we have to play ole miss and kentucky in stead of auburn. how many people will complain about our easy schedule if aurburn gets dumped for a game nobody wants to watch.
aw
February 11th, 2012
7:46 pm
How excited will UGA fans be to play for a National Championship? Ask Auburn, Alabama, LSU, UF, and Tennessee. Oh yeah UGA played and won it in 1980! Congrats! Also, Congrats to Ga Tech for winning it in 1990.
Still@theKool-aidBAR
February 11th, 2012
7:48 pm
kybodawg…. don’t buy tickets or don’t go in the stadium for the game. Stay outside and just tailgate.
Still@theKool-aidBAR
February 11th, 2012
9:13 pm
BILL KING what was the score of today’s game? We need an UPDATE on the Band Brawl. LOL
Dog in Nam
February 11th, 2012
10:19 pm
I respect history far more than most probably do. That is why it saddens me to support giving up Georgia v Auburn. It has been a nice run but, like Alabama v Tennessee, it is totally irrelevant to having a decent schedule in the new SEC. We should also drop Ga. Tech; and, Clemson and FSU should come off of SC and UF’s schedule. Then maybe 9 SEC games would make sense. It is the only fair thing to do.
Still@theKool-aidBAR
February 11th, 2012
10:29 pm
Dog in Nam……you ran your mouth the other night about how you don’t care about TRADITION. You are not a COLLEGE FOOTBALL fan if these game don’t matter. Take your b.u.t.t back to the bush and watch monkeys screw a coconut. You are just a scared defeatists and don’t want to FIGHT a good fight. NAM took it out of you and you just need to chase the Dragon and pop lil Asian boys.
UGADawg83
February 11th, 2012
11:56 pm
An observation about Bobo. Bobo is the cook but he didn’t write the recipe. Bobo as offensive play caller is basically calling Richt’s offense. Bobo only calls the plays Richt wrote the recipe. This makes Bobo a little different from some of the other offensive coordinators at other schools.
RED DOG 77
February 12th, 2012
1:46 am
@ Joey, and Still@theKool-aidBar…………..Sounds to me like somebody needs a hug……….bless your little hearts………….RED
UGA-owns-this-state=47th-in-education
February 12th, 2012
9:16 am
RedandBLackDAWG. What is a “sports sight”?
hmmm.....
February 12th, 2012
11:09 am
Why exactly do you fail to mention that Tech is also located in the “47th-in-education” state?
@aw
February 12th, 2012
11:13 am
Actually Colorado won it in 1990. Georgia Tech is namely the most despised program in college football because they shamelessly latch themselves onto other teams championships that were clearly the real champion.
1928 – Actual champ was USC
1952 – Actual champ was Michigan St.
1990 – Actual champ was obviously Colorado
Jacket99
February 12th, 2012
11:44 am
hmmm…..
February 12th, 2012
11:09 am
Why exactly do you fail to mention that Tech is also located in the “47th-in-education” state?
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May explain why there are so many out-of-state students at Tech. Tech is a heck of a bargain for in-state students who can get in, with no tuition and lottery scholarships. In all fairness, though, UGA is a heck of a bargain, too, and was recently ranked as such. Much needs to be done about public education in the state of Georgia, but where to start?
Jacket99
February 12th, 2012
11:51 am
@aw
February 12th, 2012
11:13 am
Actually Colorado won it in 1990. Georgia Tech is namely the most despised program in college football because they shamelessly latch themselves onto other teams championships that were clearly the real champion.
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Maybe despised in the state of Georgia, but not nationally. Both Georgia and Georgia Tech are largely irrelevant in football nationally. I hope that can change. There is no reason in a football rich state like Georgia that Clean, Old Fashioned Hate should not be more relevant nationally than the Iron Bowl.
Here are the most despised programs in college football:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/743075-college-football-2011-the-25-most-hated-programs#/articles/743075-college-football-2011-the-25-most-hated-programs/page/26
Band parent
February 12th, 2012
11:51 am
@kool-aid The score was 21 – 6 Redcoats over the “white” team. It was on Fox5 sports, not that you really care.
Jacket99
February 12th, 2012
11:58 am
Funny. Fire Coach Lanier. lol.
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/sports/uga/georgia-vs-georgia-tech-sort-of-20120211-tm
7576DAWG
February 12th, 2012
1:00 pm
Murray has the potential to really be a great Quarterback before he leaves if he would just protect the ball better. Don’t throw into traffic and slide before being hit when he run’s the ball. My problem is he doesn’t learn from his mistakes, he just repeat’s the same mistakes.
Murray is the only player that doesn’t have to pay for any bad decision’s. When a running back turn’s the ball over Richt and Bobo make’s them sit out the next series but not Murray. The reason he makes the same mistake’s over and over is because their are no consequent’s for poor play.
Screen passes will never work with Murray because he is just too short. 90% of all screen passes get knock down by a lineman or the ball is over thrown because Murray can’t be accurate because the angle or arch of the pass is nearly straight up.
7576DAWG
February 12th, 2012
1:15 pm
Not playing backup Quarterback’s is the biggest failure for Bobo and Richt. When it is obvious that Georgia is going to win a game LeMay and Mason should play the rest of the game. Giving Murray more reps. Will not help him be a better Quarterback. Murray play’s great most of the time but when he make’s mistakes it is usually the same mistakes and more playing time won’t help that any. It is mental and if there are no consequent’s for poor play, he will never learn , DON’T DO THAT.
When Murray finally leaves and Georgia get’s another Quarterback he will have a learning curve he will have to play through because he will be making a lot of mistakes but when that excuse is given my question is WHO WAS IT THAT MADE THE DECISION NOT TO GET ANOTHER QUARTERBACK READY TO PLAY? Why wasn’t Mason or LeMay game ready?
Pago Pago Dawg
February 12th, 2012
1:26 pm
Forget everything else, can we JUST win a bowl game some year!
Spike 80DF
February 12th, 2012
1:47 pm
another coaching mistake is that we NEVER let the backup QB run the full offense when we’re winning big. we bring in the backup to hand it off between the tackles and i’m surprised guys don’t get hurt since everyone in the stadium knows it’s coming. grantham is the best coach on our staff (CMR included) so let’s not criticize him, how about we look at our terrible special teams play and predictable play calling…..
that school from Athens
February 12th, 2012
1:49 pm
may get stung.
Adawgfan
February 12th, 2012
7:03 pm
late in the Forth quater in the bowl game, the clock is running, Georgia runs the three times, loses yardage and PUNTS, NO pass, NO sweep,NO trickeration, NO nothing, only needed a first down to keep the ball and the clock. Now who do you point the finger at??? The O.C. Mike Bobo
Columbus Dawg
February 13th, 2012
6:50 am
When will we see some reports on how Coach T’s workouts are going, we want to know it if Crowell pukes!
Whiskey Breath
February 13th, 2012
9:07 am
Listen Dogs, over 5 years you have blamed every assistant coach that has worked for CMR.
At what time do you blame their boss? So they suck but he is ok huh? I don’t know what power
CMR has over you dogs, but I sure wish I had it. You dogs can’t be that dumb. Bobo is just the latest whippin boy, but what else is new? You mutts will go after my boy Will Friend. When you do, ask yourself is CMR anyway responsible? Can you imagine CMR working for Nick Saban? Saban would rip off that zipper cut off his head the first time he saw him goofing off.
schmeckdawg
February 13th, 2012
10:27 am
Band parent
February 12th, 2012
11:51 am
@kool-aid The score was 21 – 6 Redcoats over the “white” team. It was on Fox5 sports, not that you really care.
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Anytime that we beat any team from The Joke By Coke I care!!!!!!!!!!
Go you Hairy BandDAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Columbus Dawg
February 13th, 2012
10:44 am
Whiskey breath first off you are a blithering idiot, second that little sawed off pos Saban with the little man syndrome can not even rip open his own zipper for all of you who worship at his crotch. Mark Richt would beat Saban’s little ass. Moron.
Jborodawg
February 13th, 2012
11:49 am
The bands playing each other in football; I think it’s cool and would love to be in Athens to watch it.
But, can’t make it this time.
Dropping the annual Awbun game would be disgusting, disheartening, and dastardly. Bringing in
Mizzou and TA&M was a big mistake. We’ll pretty much have to fly to those games (and you thought Little Rock was a bee-aach to get to).
I’m not sure CTG doesn’t substitute. That statement that he doesn’t wasn’t from him; I think was one of the AJC writers. Bill? One poster mentions that the D seems worn out in the 4th quarter. That does seem true.
Yep, Murray needs to improve. Does he concentrate on the primary receiver and miss other open
receivers? I guess a case could be made for that. Hopefully he already knows that; and I think he does, being the “student of the game” that he is. And, he and CMR should definitely work on getting the backup QB in the game more. Change of pace AND gets em ‘meaningful’ experience. EG, Mason could come in and run several designed, no-huddle plays that would hopefully throw the opposing
D off guard…and pick up yards/first downs.
I for one think Bobo is a pretty good OC. We’ll see if there’s improved play-calling this year.
dawgfan
February 13th, 2012
12:16 pm
If Bobo is such a great recruiter why are we always so thin on the O-line? Why do we not have the personnel to run the type of smash mouth offense that is required to win in the SEC? Bobo puts it all on the quarterback. This is not a quarterback league. Look who the best teams in the SEC were last year. Did LSU and Bama have great QB play? Hell no. Did they destroy everything in their paths and make the other team like it? Hell yes. You don’t win in the SEC by outwitting everyone and being cute. You don’t win in the SEC with flashy quaterback stats and big passing plays. You win by kicking the guy’s azz that’s lined up in front of you. Bobo doesn’t get it and probably never will at this point. I’m afraid that we will never win the SEC with Bobo as OC.
I hope I’m wrong.
sldkfjslk
February 13th, 2012
1:25 pm
Re: Shockley and Ozzfest. Shockley did get the chance to play in 2002 and 2003. But both seasons were derailed by injury. He broke his foot in the second game of 2002 and came back against Florida to throw a pick six. He played in the Sugar Bowl and fumbled then Richt brought him right back to throw a long touchdown to T. Edwards on the very next drive. In 2003 he hurt his knee early on and missed the rest of the season. By 2004 Greene was the established starter. That was the only time we’ve had quarterbacks of comparable ability. Tereshinski and Cox were inferior to the starters at the time. Mason may be good but he is inferior to Murray who will break records at UGA. I have criticisms of Richt too. He needs a real OC and he needs to actually have 85 scholarships. It is foolish to compete with the best schools in the country while essentially putting yourself on probation but I have no problems with the choice of quarterbacks. Oh yeah, and we can keep signing all the best running backs in the country but they will continue to disappoint unless we have some good run blocking.
BDawg
February 13th, 2012
3:35 pm
Thanks for the mention of the Band Bowl, Bill! I played in it in 05, 06, and 08 and it was always a wonderful, bloody event. Got a mention on ESPN’s Page 2 also. Good to see something about the fun side of college athletics rather than the constant negativity.
51Y0 TOAD
February 13th, 2012
3:47 pm
Now this is what I know most about. The bands. I have tooted a many a horn and played a many a flute.
Old Dawg
February 13th, 2012
9:59 pm
I’d rather give up playing Tech than losing the Auburn game. It’s a conference rivalry and it’s always competitive. UGA has won so many times over the past 40 years it doesn’t seem like much of a rivalry.
I know most folks won’t agree with me, but that’s my thought on the subject.
Dumauree Marr
February 14th, 2012
8:01 am
There’s a reason why UGA is known far and wide as the Cesspool of the South.
dawgfan
February 14th, 2012
12:40 pm
I agree with you Old Dawg. The UGA-Tech “rivalry” is dead. I really believe Tech has just given up. Their own coach tries to downplay the importance of the game. What a bunch of losers. Its just nothing but a littany of excuses and rationalizations out of North Avenue year after year after year. We have nothing to gain from this game anymore. Hell, we beat them last year and FELL in the polls. The Techies are so pathetic that they would probably get excited if we got knocked out of the BCS title game because we fell in the polls after beating them. That would be the highlight of their entire season.
The Auburn game means a lot more to Georgia fans. We could still work Tech in the schedule when space is available. It doesn’t always have to be the last game of the season. I still think the hate would be there. If anything, maybe going a couple of years without playing each other might inject a little life into the rivalry. It might be just what the doctor ordered.
Thanks.
Jacket99
February 14th, 2012
1:25 pm
The Auburn game means a lot more to Georgia fans. We could still work Tech in the schedule when space is available. It doesn’t always have to be the last game of the season. I still think the hate would be there. If anything, maybe going a couple of years without playing each other might inject a little life into the rivalry. It might be just what the doctor ordered.
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That’s a thought. Not sure I understand the logic, though. You would rather give up a game you usually win for a game you lose half the time? Okay. If I was a Dawg fan I would be angry if either Auburn or Tech was dropped from the schedule and Coastal Carolina and Idaho State stayed on the schedule. Talk about getting ripped off. I’m still mad that Tech doesn’t play Auburn every year but Western Carolina and MTSU are on the schedule. Playing lower division cupcakes really is a disservice to the fans.
UGA Redcoat
February 15th, 2012
9:31 am
21-6! 21-6! 21-6! And the “white team” from North Avenue couldn’t even complete a pass. Our RB/QB did better than that. Big s/o to the lineman on the UGA Redcoat Team. #beastmode