UGA and that school from Atlanta meet again on gridiron

band bowl IIIGeorgia and Georgia Tech will meet again in football Saturday in Athens — sort of.

Brett Johnson and Paul Floyd of UGA’s Redcoat Band tell me that the Redcoats’ football team will be playing something called the White Team, an unofficial aggregation allegedly consisting of band members from that school on North Avenue, at noon Saturday at Southeast Clarke Park, 4440 Lexington Road in Athens.

Just in case you might be one of those folks who mistakenly considers the members of the band to be anything less than gung-ho iron men, you should know that they play full-contact tackle football and, Brett noted, like rugby, “the only padding is a mouthpiece and hopefully forgiving grass.”

Sounds like the sandlot games my brothers and I used to love playing with our friends when we were kids (only we didn’t even bother with the mouthpieces).

Saturday’s game, dubbed Band Bowl III, is the third annual clash since the series was revived after an undertermined number of years off (no one recalls exactly). The Wreck won 28-7 in Athens in 2010 and the Redcoats took a 14-7 victory last year in Atlanta, so this is the rubber match of the current series.

Brett said that “because of the unpolished enthusiasm of both rosters, the teams lean heavy on solid running games and sound defense. This produces old-school football in an authentic form. A nuanced part of the in-state rivalry, the passion for the game outweighs the hatred between the two squads who shared a few laughs after last year’s hard fought game.”

Among the highlights of last year’s game were a successful Redcoats goal line stand led by since-graduated defensive tackle and sousaphone player Nathan Lawrence and a deep fade caught by sophomore saxophone player Carl Schmidt. The game is played by NCAA rules and is officiated by volunteer intramural officials. The clock is run flag football-style, meaning four 15-minute quarters and a 15-minute halftime. There are no goal posts, so no field goals. Extra points are decided NFL Blitz-style — you can choose a “free” extra point or try for 2 from the 3-yard line. The ball is put into play from the 40-yard line with either a kick from a tee or a punt. There is no rushing of a punt. All special teams plays are two-hand touch for safety purposes. All other plays are live, tackle football.

Sounds like a lot of fun. If you see this in time and are in the vicinity of Southeast Clarke Park, stop by to cheer on the Red and Black and get a taste of football a bit like the way it started out in early gridiron days.

Go Redcoats!

Now, let’s get to some Junkyard Mail …

Jim Parry writes: Bill, It’s disgusting how conferences are throwing traditions out the window on what seems to be a daily basis. The SEC schools thrive on tradition. Our alumni and fans (at least ones over 25) are as stubborn (in the best way possible) as they come to changes. From uniforms and cheers, all the way to scheduling. I will find it very sad if the oldest rivalry in the South [Georgia-Auburn] comes to an end as an annual series. The SEC stands out on top, with only a couple other conferences that try to hold on to most of their traditions. Heck, too many like the Big (L)East never had any traditions, and look at them now.

You’re preaching to the choir with me, Jim. Having to discontinue Georgia-Auburn and Alabama-Tennessee would be pretty major collateral damage in exchange for adding Missouri and Texas A&M to the conference. Especially if it’s done just to avoid adding a ninth conference game. But those nonconference cupcake games are moneymakers and that’s what rules in the $EC.

Mark D. writes: I read this week that Coach [Todd] Grantham has that NFL mentality, that he wants his starters to play for the entire game if they can. The obvious upside to that is that he’s playing at all cylinders till the closing whistle. But isn’t there an obvious downside? Unlike in the NFL, where even the bench players already have a lot of experience under their belts, the underclassmen at the college level are still young guys trying to learn and develop. Isn’t Coach Grantham doing the future defense a disservice by not giving the second- and third-string players a chance to gain experience and development? On the same token, last season exposed another serious downside to Coach Grantham’s philosophy. Whenever teams started playing under a quick gun, no-huddle offense, our D-line got gassed so quickly. Isn’t Grantham’s personnel scheme placing dangerously heavy reliance on a select few players?

While Grantham likes his starters to play as much as possible, backups did get playing time this past season. But you make a good point, especially about giving younger players game experience. It’s an argument that proponents of guaranteed playing time for the backup quarterback have made as well. If Aaron Murray takes all the meaningful snaps at QB, an injury to him is going to mean a dramatic drop-off in game experience when the second-stringer takes over. For some reason, though, Mark Richt and Mike Bobo turned the page on that approach after the David Greene-D.J. Shockley era was over.

Daniel Colding writes: Hey Junkyard Dude, I am a bigtime UGA Fan. How many more Recruits do you thing UGA will sign for 2012 and who? What about the 6′7″ 350 lb. O-lineman Claudyson Calixte from the College of Sequoyas? I see on ESPN.com he is considering us. I would love for them to add a couple more bigguns on the O-line. Thanks, man.

Junkyard Dude is no recruiting guru, but from what I read most of those who follow that aspect of the game closely expect UGA to add a few names to the 2012 signing class before the season starts. In particular, DawgNation reports Fehoko Fanaika, a top JUCO offensive lineman at College of San Mateo in California, is getting a close look by Georgia. And defensive back/athlete Mario Alford, a real speedster, of Georgia Military College in Milledgeville is another player who might wind up in Athens before very long. Oh, and Dude, you’re welcome!

When is Mike Bobo really due the credit/blame? (University of Georgia)

When is Mike Bobo really due the credit/blame? (University of Georgia)

Bilbo700 writes: Bill, Two things about the debate among fans about Mike Bobo’s value to the UGA program really bother me, irrespective of how I personally feel about him. First, I often hear fans defend his performance by saying things like, “Bobo didn’t throw that interception” or “it’s not his fault the back fumbled in the red zone.” I think as the OC, Bobo is at least indirectly responsible for everything his offense does, and logically, if Bobo can’t be blamed for terrible execution, he also shouldn’t be credited for exceptional execution — Bobo also doesn’t make one-handed catches or break tackles. Second, I often hear that Bobo is an exceptional recruiter — he very well may be a standout in what has become a very competitive enterprise. But with some of the inherent advantages UGA has in recruiting (only in-state recruiting powerhouse, only in-state SEC school, enormous local talent pool, proximity to Atlanta, solid academics, track record of sending players to NFL, strong fanbase, and even popular uniforms), I’m not totally convinced Bobo deserves all the credit he gets for recruiting. Do we really believe having a different OC, who would likely have a more impressive resume and better name recognition, would hurt us substantially in recruiting? I’m curious to get your (and your readers’) thoughts.

I’ll grant you that the argument about coaches taking the blame/credit for what happens on the field cuts both ways, though perhaps the position coaches figure more directly in that than the offensive coordinator. (Of course, Bobo is also the quarterbacks coach, so give him the credit or blame there.) But while you’re correct about UGA having a lot of positives that attract recruits, I don’t it’s accurate to say that the big-name signees Bobo has been credited with landing would have come to Athens no matter who was recruiting them. Too many players on signing day cite the personal relationships they forge with the coaches recruiting them for that to be the case.

Andrew Smith writes: Hi Bill, I’ve been contemplating UGA’s tendencies when favored. When reminiscing on past seasons I find myself more comfortable with and even relishing being the underdawg rather than the anticipated favorite. It has seemed as though the Dawg coaches and players feel the same. In your opinion, will the 2012 Dawgs be able to take care of business when favored?

While most coaches (though not necessarily the players) would rather enter a game as the underdog, I believe the only time Georgia was favored during the 2011 season and didn’t win was the bowl game against Michigan State. In the losses to Boise State, South Carolina and LSU, the opponent was favored. So I don’t believe you can say that the Dogs can’t handle playing as the favorite.

Does Aaron Murray lock in on his primary receiver too much? (Associated Press)

Does Aaron Murray lock in on his primary receiver too much? (Associated Press)

Seth Ford writes: Dear Bill, Thank you for your dedicated insight into all things Georgia! Am I the only fan frustrated with Aaron Murray’s receiver selection? Aside from the rare fullback or tailback screens (which were commonly executed poorly and/or defended well), I rarely saw him resort to a screen or short pass to the flat. Particularly with [Brandon[ Boykin or [Branden] Smith in the backfield, it was amazing how much space the opposing defenses would give those guys as they ran to the flat — probably because they knew we never throw to them! Murray never even looked their way, opting more often than not to force a ball downfield to a triple-covered Orson Charles than give the open back a chance to make a play in space. Five-yard passes can get you 20 yards as much as a 20-yard pass can! I see David Greene’s ability and willingness to use these short passes in key situations as a big reason he had the success he did. Keeping the defense honest in these areas of the field would probably open other things up, too! Your thoughts?

I’m with you on this. I think reading defenses and going more quickly to the second and third receivers instead of trying to force a play to the primary receiver is one of the areas where Murray needs to make the greatest improvement.

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140 comments Add your comment

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
2:35 pm

Auburn finished with a winning record, so did Tech, so did Vanderbilt, so did Florida.

Vanderbilt didn’t finish with a winning record.

MT

February 11th, 2012
2:48 pm

You critize Georgia OC about not being feared,but when it’s pointed out to you that Tech is not feared, then it’s
an insult. Jeez.

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
2:49 pm

I’d rather dump Tech from the schedule than Auburn. At least Auburn is competitive.

I would welcome this also and I have emailed DRad about it now that we are going to a 9 game schedule. It makes the most sense to quit pretending like anyone cares about our game anymore and start scheduling other opponents who may generate a little more excitement.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

February 11th, 2012
2:52 pm

MT….no that was not the insult. Are you not able to read and understand the insult?

Still@theKool-aidBAR

February 11th, 2012
3:08 pm

you won under Boob man?

Neutral

February 11th, 2012
3:21 pm

Did Vandy beat Wake by 5 or 6 TDs……just asking.

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
3:33 pm

Did Vandy beat Wake by 5 or 6 TDs……just asking.

Is beating Wake by any amount an accomplishment? They were the 4th worst team in the ACC. Even Syracuse beat them.

Neutral

February 11th, 2012
3:40 pm

Yes…..according to your logic it is significant!!!

Cdpridg

February 11th, 2012
3:40 pm

A tech fan still at the bar???? That is hilarious!

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
3:45 pm

Yes…..according to your logic it is significant!!!

How does my logic make it significant? Please explain.

Neutral

February 11th, 2012
3:45 pm

Is Wake the “4th worse” or “6th best”??? Just asking

Neutral

February 11th, 2012
3:49 pm

Hey GtBOOB…..I think the score was 42-7 on the same day UGa pounded Tech, SC pounded Clemson and Fl lost to FSU, but held FSU to 82 yds total offense, but who’s counting? Did you notice those SEC teams are all in the East…..the weak section of the SEC according to you….meathead

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
3:56 pm

Is Wake the “4th worse” or “6th best”??? Just asking

4th worst which would make them the 9th best ACC team. Luckily for them they snagged a 1 point victory over Duke which propelled them into the top 9.

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
3:57 pm

the weak section of the SEC according to you….meathead

So you would argue that the SEC east was stronger then the SEC west?

Cdpridg

February 11th, 2012
4:05 pm

No one is argueing the strengths of east and west. I will say that the disparity is very little and within the SEC that can fluctuate in as little as one year. A good example of the strength and power of the conference.

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
4:13 pm

No one is argueing the strengths of east and west. I will say that the disparity is very little

The SEC West champion and the second best team in the SEC West played in the National Championship game. The best team in the SEC East lost by 16 points to the third best team in the West. You really consider that disparity to be little?

Still@theKool-aidBAR

February 11th, 2012
4:19 pm

cpridg…I will keep pouring you UGa fans the Richt Bobo Kool-aid Shooters all day.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

February 11th, 2012
4:27 pm

SEC Rankings last year:
W…Bama
W…LSU
W…Arkansas
E…So Carolina
E…UGA
W…Auburn
E…Florida
W…Miss St
E…Vandy
E…Kentucky
E…Tennessee
W…Ole Miss

“No one is “argueing” the strengths of east and west. I will say that the disparity is very little” learn to spell first.

Man the East was every bit as strong as the WEST for sure. Hahahahahahha

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
4:30 pm

For one more note on the East vs West, the West went 12-6 against the East and the top 4 from the West went 11-1 against the East.

Terry

February 11th, 2012
4:43 pm

Still@theKool-aidBAR and GTBob argueing about the strength of the SEC, exactly why would ACC Fans worry about something that has nothing to do with their schools, dang how sad is that, that you have nothing better to talk about, than someone elses conference.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

February 11th, 2012
4:52 pm

Terry………What does the AJC cover? In the last week alone I have seen more articles about the Bama and Vandy than I have seen about ANY ACC team other than TECH in 4 years. So, Yes we get SEC coverage and know about the teams because that is ALL the Liberal AJC covers. I have no problem chatting on other papers blogs about the ACC. hell i talk on the NoLa paper about the Saints v the Falcons.

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
5:01 pm

exactly why would ACC Fans worry about something that has nothing to do with their schools

Im not an ACC fan, im a GT fan.

Cdpridg

February 11th, 2012
5:18 pm

kool aid legend….how is life as a bug?

Cdpridg

February 11th, 2012
5:20 pm

Kool aid boy…the AJC covers what is relevant……take the hint pal…

Rusty

February 11th, 2012
5:22 pm

Boise State was not favored over UGA. Dummy.

Cdpridg

February 11th, 2012
5:30 pm

Gt bob…yes the disparity is little….06 UF #1..07 UGA #2…08 UF #example of how quickly things change in the nations best conference. Unlike your conf where FSU dominated for 15 yrs straight before they succumbed to the mediocrity of the conf which is the ACC

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
5:33 pm

Boise State was not favored over UGA. Dummy.

Can you provide any source that had UGA favored in that game?

Still@theKool-aidBAR

February 11th, 2012
5:37 pm

Life as a BUG? I wouldn’t know. I bet some bugs are happily feasting on Uga I – Uga VIII. I have no idea how life is for a bug.

GooberDawg

February 11th, 2012
5:37 pm

Whatever happened to Helen Hunt?

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
5:38 pm

Gt bob…yes the disparity is little

Ok, you keep telling yourself that. I guess you expect the SEC east to have a winning record over the SEC west next year?

GooberDawg

February 11th, 2012
5:41 pm

Helen Hunt had nice boobs. Not sure anymore…

Cdpridg

February 11th, 2012
5:46 pm

Sure you do kool-aid boy….that is why you are here….low to NO expectations for you sad, disgusting little people

Cdpridg

February 11th, 2012
5:48 pm

Bobbie…I dont expect…but I would not be surprised. Dont make assumptions Bob…you are outclassed here the same way your team is on the field every Nov

richmondDawg

February 11th, 2012
5:54 pm

Hey, Georgia has won 12 SEC titles, Bama 22, Tenn 13, and Auburn 11, not to mention the national titles, bowl wins, etc…Think that gives the four schools a LITTLE bit of clout with the SEC, especially when it concerns beloved rivalries that mean so much to the fans….We may hate each other on the field, but fans and alumni from ALL four schools need to be pulling together on this front…Don’t let Slive pull a fast one and ruin our traditions…

Cdpridg

February 11th, 2012
5:55 pm

Bob…allow me to explain in terms that a fella such as yourself MIGHT understand. The East has a better shot at a winning record over the West next year than your team has at getting lucky over the next 5 yrs and squeakin one out against the Dawgs. Let me know if you need it dumbed down for you any further.

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
5:57 pm

Think that gives the four schools a LITTLE bit of clout with the SEC

Bama has clout. Sorry, but the other three are afterthoughts at this point.

GTBob

February 11th, 2012
6:00 pm

Cdpridg, no really they don’t. I know you are a UGA homer with a clouded interpretation of reality, but the three best teams in the SEC West are far and away better then any teams in the SEC East. Even Auburn, who is terrible, still went 2-1 against the SEC East. It amazes me that there are UGA fans who think the SEC East is currently the class of the SEC.

richmondDawg

February 11th, 2012
6:06 pm

And Auburn-Florida already got screwed up the last time around, in 92, although I don’t think the Barners were complaining too much, with the run Florida went on..

Cdpridg

February 11th, 2012
6:11 pm

What is reality for you Bob….12-38??

Still@theKool-aidBAR

February 11th, 2012
6:22 pm

It looks like the Dawgs have a Heisman shot this year. 3/4’s MURRAY is the BEST QB in the SEC. Hahahhahaah. OK and and and well Murray will not be an Invitee to the New York Downtown Athletic Club.

Neutral

February 11th, 2012
6:31 pm

Hey Boob……you missed my point. If GT, WF, FSU and Clemson have a disastrous day against the SEC East……imagine the slaughter that would have taken place if they (according to you) played our varsity ie. The SEC West.

Really?

February 11th, 2012
6:38 pm

I am trying to post that still@the kool aid bar also posts under another name on the ajc that everyone would be familiar with but for some reason it won’t let me post.

Think of the mosr bitter hate filled poster that is a big ga text fan and who uses 4 numbers in his screen name and that is him

Really?

February 11th, 2012
6:39 pm

He also sells bird houses on tthe ajc under both names but he doesn’t like to follow thru after being paid. I wish that was a joke but it isn’t the guy is a deadbeat who tried to cheat me after I paid for a birdhouse for my nephew.

Really?

February 11th, 2012
6:40 pm

Really?

February 11th, 2012
6:41 pm

50 is also still @ the kool aid bar

Still@theKool-aidBAR

February 11th, 2012
6:42 pm

Really? You must be a freak’n Genius!

Still@theKool-aidBAR

February 11th, 2012
6:42 pm

That GED is really working for you isn’t it?

Still@theKool-aidBAR

February 11th, 2012
6:48 pm

Really? do you know who I am?

Neutral

February 11th, 2012
6:58 pm

We all know who you are…….I’ll tell everyone on my next post, but I need to go to dinner

Neutral

February 11th, 2012
6:59 pm

You are…..