BCS quirks mean Georgia has more to gain with SEC win
This is the time of year when following the BCS is sort of like watching an accident in the making — you know you don’t want to see it happen, but you can’t quite force yourself to look away.
And this year even the so-called truisms that frequently have been applied to the process don’t seem to be holding up.
I keep reading in the national sports press that LSU and Alabama, currently ranked No. 1 and No. 2 with one more week to go, probably will meet in the BCS championship game no matter what, despite already having played each other. The consensus seems to be that LSU will make it to the game even if they lose to Georgia in the SEC championship because of their record, which includes wins over three teams that were ranked in the top three of the coaches poll at the time they played: Oregon, Alabama and Arkansas.
Meanwhile, Alabama, which didn’t even win its own division in the SEC, appears unlikely to be dislodged by No. 3 Oklahoma State, No. 4 Stanford or No. 5 Virginia Tech, even if Okie State decimates Oklahoma in its finale or the Hokies do the same to Clemson in the ACC championship.
So much for the reasoning used against Georgia in 2007 when the inactive Dogs were jumped in the BCS standings the last week, despite being the hottest team in the country. At the time, the Dogs not winning their own division was chiefly cited by ESPN’s talking heads as the reason.
Likewise, the old saw that if you’re going to lose a big game, it’s best to do it early in the season apparently has been thrown out the window in the case of the 2011 Dogs, who have reeled off 10 straight wins since opening 0-2 against highly ranked opponents, and yet who seem unlikely to crack the BCS Top 10 even if they win the SEC championship. Having just dominated a ranked Georgia Tech, Georgia proceeded to drop one spot in the latest BCS standings!
Guess that also means the SEC champion is no longer a lock for the BCS title game, as has often been proclaimed in recent years.
So LSU basically has nothing much to gain by beating Georgia in the SEC title match other than preserving its unbeaten record. The Dogs, on the other hand, can secure a BCS bowl (the Sugar) with a win.
I’m not suggesting that the Tigers will be looking past Georgia to the BCS, because LSU by all evidence is a team that shows up ready to play every week.
But it’s clear which team has the most to gain with a win in the Georgia Dome.
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just saying
November 28th, 2011
11:29 am
Dawgs should be first……not me
SBC Pastor
November 28th, 2011
11:29 am
First?
SBC Pastor
November 28th, 2011
11:29 am
dang
Decatur Dawg
November 28th, 2011
11:32 am
You should know better Bill…LSU will not be looking ahead and has plenty to gain: an SEC CHAMPIONSHIP, which means more than the mythical national championship
Dr. Morpheus
November 28th, 2011
11:36 am
OMG- I just acquired two tickets to the game at face value! It will be tough but I like the Dawgs chances. LSU has already proven themselves and now they know they can lose and still get into the BCS title game. Is the perfect storm brewing out there? Go, Dawgs! GATA!
drbasic
November 28th, 2011
11:37 am
Just beat those cheese ball hooligans from the bayou…….would thought that might have screwed the BCS but alas the gods of ESPN have spoken (Crudstreet. Lou Hoser, Mark May not have a brain) Why has no one mentioned those clowns would not put Ga in the game in 2007 due to not winning SECCG let alone their division……but hmmm nothing said this year about it…liars
Auburn Jacket
November 28th, 2011
11:38 am
The BCS Championship game should be played by two teams that win their conference. Period. As has been stated, Bama didn’t even win their division, so they should not be playing for the National Championship. Another reason why we need a playoff.
Gary
November 28th, 2011
11:39 am
My prediction is that an LSU-Alabama rematch for the bcs nc will be the least watched bcs game in history. Fans don’t like rematches, especially from the same conference. SEC fans will watch, everyone else will be disgusted once again at the process. Dawgs need to make a statement in the SEC championship game that they play great football in the SEC east as well. Go Dawgs.
JaxDawg05
November 28th, 2011
11:41 am
I’ll take the SEC Championship, those are won on the field not in a computer.
BMDPD
November 28th, 2011
11:44 am
It is not like the first LSU/Bama game was exciting. Heck, the second one will put us to sleep. Good for the SEC, but bad for CFB. Another team needs to play LSU, not Bama.
Bjohndawg
November 28th, 2011
11:45 am
Cannot win your division
should be end of it
Reggie Ball
November 28th, 2011
11:45 am
I miss Chan Gailey, CAN ANYONE GET ME A JOB!!!!
dawgjohn
November 28th, 2011
11:46 am
Go Dawgs!
Bubba Gump big lips
November 28th, 2011
11:46 am
Alabama will prob win the second matchup.
Andy
November 28th, 2011
11:46 am
If, by some small miracle, UGA does beat LSU, I hope someone plays video of the 2007 Les Miles saying things like “if you don’t win your conference, you shouldn’t get to play in the national title game” and see what Miles has to say about that now. Just goes to show you that people don’t really want a playoff–because the conference championship game is (or should be) exactly that.
dawgjohn
November 28th, 2011
11:48 am
Hey, say what you want but I believe our Dawgs will be playing a team with a lot of pride. They know what we did to them in 05 when thery were 3 and we were 13. Our QB is better …..Our defense is strong…..I think it will be a war. Dawgs by 3. Bama by 10 on the rematch! They are the two best teams in the country. I am just very proud of our Dawgs not matter what happens. Play tough boys………be the Nike kids……..Just Do It!!
No Sugar in The Sky
November 28th, 2011
11:48 am
Dawgs get bounced to reality when LSU thumps Blair Walsh 48 – 12….
tell me again
November 28th, 2011
11:50 am
It’s all about the moo lah , boys. Somebody is getting their pockets lined if we beat LSU and they still go to the BCS championship game. And every bank account in Alabama has been emptied if Bama is the team they play. All of the logic they stuffed down our throats when we were in the exact same position all of a sudden doesn’t apply. How much hypocrisy can we take?
sogadog
November 28th, 2011
11:51 am
Mr. King,
Enjoyed your last post re: Paul Johnson.
I could not believe how negative ESPN has been towards UGA and the Dawgs. I wanted to throw my beer at the TV listening to their announcer during the Tech game first talk about how Georgia should lose the game then go on and on about how Georgia had an easy schedule.
This is a serious question: Have any of the coaches, players or administration with the UGAAA done something to turn ESPN against the program? ( I frankly dont care what ESPN thinks but it does affect pollsters who in turn affect Georgia’s rankings, bowl prospects and ultimately revenue.)
Clembo
November 28th, 2011
11:53 am
FIRE DABO!
Fred
November 28th, 2011
11:56 am
Wow I can’t even begin to imagine what word I used that caused the auto snagger to eat my post……….
schmeckdawg
November 28th, 2011
12:00 pm
Dropped from 13th to 14th! Shocker. Even when we had Herschel we got no respect! The year after the National Championship, we were preseason #11 (believe). Then after the 1981 season I think that we were preseason #15 (again I believe, Bill can you confirm).
Vinny Ocean
November 28th, 2011
12:00 pm
Mark Richt hasn’t won a big game since ‘07 when we beat Auburn. I’m glad we’re in the sec ’ship right now, but we’re lucky b/c we lost to the two best teams we played all season. It’s time we see a Mark Richt team win a game that nobody thinks they can win. It’s been too long since it’s happened, now is as good of a time as any to do it Coach Richt!
KJ
November 28th, 2011
12:01 pm
The ESPN bashing of UGA has gotten so bad that LOU HOLTZ was defending them yesterday. Think about that for a minute.
Clay
November 28th, 2011
12:04 pm
Bill is exactly right about one thing: it is crazy that UGA beat a ranked Tech team and dropped in the polls. I’m tired of UGA still being punished for a 3 point loss back in September. 10 wins and a SEC East crown mean nothing in any of the polls and it’s just dumb.
UGA has been written off this week against LSU and that’s just the way I like it. I’m looking forward to the game.
Muprhy
November 28th, 2011
12:07 pm
Make no mistake LSU will show up ready to win.I can assure you that SEC Championship ring is wanted by the Tigers.
Murphy
November 28th, 2011
12:08 pm
This is the game that can put UGA back on the map in the National picture for next year.This is the biggest game of the Richt era I do believe.
Murphy
November 28th, 2011
12:10 pm
I still believe BAMA is the best team in the country.I for one want to see the rematch.Bama will put it on LSU the second time around.
My View
November 28th, 2011
12:11 pm
Bill. I’m glad you made the point about the 07 dawgs being left out of the title game because they “did not win the SEC”. I remember everyone from Mark May (uga hater) to Sly Croom saying that the SEC championship “had to mean something”. Now people want to talk about “eye tests”. What happened to the people calling the college football season a defacto playoff. That December night in ‘07 was a nightmare for dawgfans like myself who saw everything work out perfectly putting us in the BCS championship only to have it snatched away by rules that never existed. CMR was even on ESPN stating as much that very night which got him a lot of kudos from me. And this just drives the knife home deeper if UGA beats LSU, then watches LSU play an SEC team that did not make the SECCG play LSU for a MNC. I really wish I could make my self boycott college football until they fix the system, cuz its broke. Nothing but subjective.
John
November 28th, 2011
12:18 pm
If UGA does end up winning the SEC Championship, people are saying UGA won’t be in the Sugar Bowl because the BCS can’t except three teams out of the same conference? Is this true? If it is, it’s complete BS to keep UGA out of the Sugar Bowl! They would be the conference champs! So UGA would get punished for WINNING???
RiffRaff
November 28th, 2011
12:20 pm
I just want the Dawgs to beat LSU. Not too concerned about the NCG. By this time next year Urban Meyer will be in the NCG just because ESPN likes his hair.
bremen dawg
November 28th, 2011
12:24 pm
Not sure what the voters are thinking, we should have at least cracked the top ten. I can’t stand ESPN, at least back what you said in 2007, don’t change you stance on it now. Media still dictates who goes to the nc game and that is why the BCS system is broke.
Bill King
November 28th, 2011
12:25 pm
John,
If Georgia wins the SEC, they will go to the Sugar. The BCS rules allow an exception with three teams coming from the SEC in cases like that.
Top Row Dawg
November 28th, 2011
12:26 pm
Been a good ride this year no matter. Would be special to get 13th SEC title and 5th Sugar Bowl win though.
bart
November 28th, 2011
12:26 pm
If ever we needed another reason for a playoff system this is it. The national championship game is set even before the league championship games are played – are you freaking joking! The bowl games have been diluted to meaningless trivia.
Dave
November 28th, 2011
12:27 pm
I watched LSU this past weekend and the thing that stood out was just the overall SPEED of both defensive and offensive players. Trying to run wide on LSU is just a guaranteed yardage loss because they get there so fast. IGA will just have to be as slick a WD40 in the SECCG to stay close and maybe steal it at the end. Pressure both LSU QB’s and hope for turnovers. UGA has nothing to lose and we should play like it.
I have nothing to say about the LSU-AL Champiosnip game, because it’s already a done deal. But I WOULD like to say that neither one won the SEC, but BOTH Championship participants were from the SEC. How’s THAT for just dominating college football? I’ll take the SEC crown and laaauuuuugh….
Real playoffs are needed in the worse way. This whole fiasco might just blow the BCS to smithereens. I mean, how can you logically rationalize the two finalists if neither won their conference? But they will think of something. Bet on it.
McDawg
November 28th, 2011
12:30 pm
i think Va Tech (who i predicted would play in the BCS game at the beginning of the year) has a good arguement (not that impressed w/ Stanford)
if we win the SEC we go to the Sugar Bowl
Murphy
November 28th, 2011
12:32 pm
Another sad piece of the BCS puzzel is the 7-4 Big East Champion taking away a BCS game from Arkansas.Thats approx a 5-7 million dollar swing.
McDawg
November 28th, 2011
12:33 pm
Murray is going to have to do alot of rolling out-alot of misdirections
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November 28th, 2011
12:34 pm
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Dawg_Mike
November 28th, 2011
12:35 pm
Death to the BCS
Dr. Lovelace
November 28th, 2011
12:41 pm
UGa’s oompa loompa midget QB better do a good job of hiding behing that big offensive line or its gonna be a long night against LSU. 45 – 6….. go Blair Walsh!
Durrty Dogg
November 28th, 2011
12:41 pm
I will say this one more time. ESPN does not like Georgia. Its articles like this that prove my point over and over again. For some reason, ESPN has it out for all of our teams. The majority of their “experts” have felt the wrath by one of our teams during the short, pathetic playing careers (Mark Punk May) and they hold grudges. Its amazing how much pull ESPN has. They have become one of the reasons that athletics have become the way they are. They will make or break you. The sad part is most of us know how they treat our teams and yet we still watch. Not I. I watch CSS and Fox. Even David Pollack sounds like a dog hater at times just to fit in.
piermontdawgny
November 28th, 2011
12:44 pm
dawgs win 42-31
TallaDawg
November 28th, 2011
12:47 pm
Gary @ 11:39 “Fans don’t like rematches, especially from the same conference. SEC fans will watch, everyone else will be disgusted once again at the process.”
I will not watch, and probably more SEC fans than ESPN thinks might also skip it.
I generally have supported the “poll and bowl” BCS formula, but if this comes to pass it may be the quickest route to a play-off, which will be very imperfect.
Murphy
November 28th, 2011
12:48 pm
Is it just me but does Dr.Lou have all the college ESPN announcers using the word Tremendous to describe anything thing of importance in a telecast.Wish I had a dollar for everytime that word was used on ESPN now.
Restore UGA
November 28th, 2011
12:50 pm
The NCAA needs a 16 team play-off.
This BCS stuff is stupid and for “educated” people to keep making excuses for it and to keep it in place, forces me to question these “intellects” intelligence.
Sam
November 28th, 2011
12:56 pm
Quote: The BCS Championship game should be played by two teams that win their conference. Period. As has been stated, Bama didn’t even win their division, so they should not be playing for the National Championship. Another reason why we need a playoff. End Quote
What makes you think the same thing would not happen with a playoff? Does your playoff only take conference champs? If so, a Big East or C-USA team would be in over Alabama. I am not a playoff fan at all BTW. In fact, I kinda like the old days before the BCS although I do think matching the #1 and #2 is good, just not necessarily how those teams are decided. (I would like to see a panel select the teams–no media, no current coaches or ADs).
robodawg
November 28th, 2011
12:56 pm
More things to blame on ESPN (besides trying to take “mythical” out of national championship with its BCS crap):
1) The Longhorn Network
2) Breaking up the Big 12
3) A&M and Mizzou joining the SEC
AltamahaDawg
November 28th, 2011
1:00 pm
Actually Lou Holtz has been pretty supportive of Georgia this year, and points out their chances in this game, and has shown his admiration for Richt several times over the years. Mark May is a cast member in a “show”. He has a role to play. Not liking Georgia in this case is that. I think he is supposed to be some kind of anti-feel good police. Georgia in another situation would get some other scripted responce from him. But it does appear he is not generally a fan.
UGA man, class of 71 & 73
November 28th, 2011
1:01 pm
UGA winning the SEC C G is all that I care about this year. Here is why:
In September, UGA fans would have done anything to be in this game and hanging around at # 12 or wherever we are right now. THAT was BEFORE the Boise and SC games too!!!
No, for me ……………….the SEC C G and ALL the prestige that WINNING THE SEC brings, is where I will always hang my hat. Any day and any time the SEC Championship is where we want to be …………… at the very top. THE SEC is KING to college football and it has been for many years.
Yes, a MAJOR BOWL vs U of Houston or some top 10 school like that would be fabulous. Besides, UGA’s FUTURE IS NOW and into 2013 if we take care of bidness.
Gooooooooooooooooooooo Dogs.
Sam
November 28th, 2011
1:04 pm
Reality check: the college presidents for whatever reasons do not want a playoff (at least a large enough number do not). Heck, I do not hear a lot of coaches screaming for a playoff either. You can keep wishing for it and maybe the Easter Bunny or Santa will bring it to you (sorry Jewish fans I do not think Judaism has any equivalents to those two).
Murphy
November 28th, 2011
1:05 pm
If we want to change our perception with ESPN all we need to do is keep the wins comming.I have watched this with the Tebow situation for 5 weeks now in the NFL. Cant say any negatives if you win.
AIRDAWG
November 28th, 2011
1:07 pm
LSU will come to play and i loved it when they beat bama. Got to hope my DAWGS come to play also.
Cuz
November 28th, 2011
1:07 pm
Well we win the Championship we go to the Sugar. We lose we come back to Atlanta for the Chicken Bowl.
Restore UGA
November 28th, 2011
1:07 pm
@Dr. Morpheus
I hope LSU spot us 14 points. I don’t think the UGA defense would then roll over like Arkansas’ did.
Restore UGA
November 28th, 2011
1:13 pm
@Sam,
The college presidents don’t want a play-off because;
1). they love the perks and power throb they get from having the bowls take them golfing, out on lavish diners and travel. They are bought off little bureaucrats with the power to deny the fans what we all want.
2). They don’t want to give up more power to the football program and coaches. They are already terrified of football and the love that fans and students have for the game, players and coaches.
BullDawgman49
November 28th, 2011
1:14 pm
Now that everything is cleared up ….. Georgia will suprised alot of people this weekend ,
Here is a Breakdown of the Match ups .
DEF Line : close here slight edge to LSU
Offf Line : Georgia is bigger Edge to Georgia
LB : Georgia Has the two and maybe 3 in coutry here EDge Georgia
SS : LSU slight Edge
DB : Lsu Slight edge
RB : Lsu ’s 4 headed monster fresh legs big advantage but havent played a with good rush defense until now. Georgia with the trouble here of course but maybe we will a 3 headed Monster Malcome
Thomas , Crowell . So this might be a pickem
Special teams : Of course this the kicking game been struggling but Butler had 55 yrd punt Sat.
Blair miiss 55 yrd field had enough leg wide right. Also with the timeout gift he made a 43 yrd.
Coaching : The Mad hatter I think will have some tricks . Richt Also will throw some in there too/
Score Georgia 24 Lsu 21 GO DAWGS !!!!!
Reggie Ball
November 28th, 2011
1:14 pm
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Auburn Jacket
November 28th, 2011
1:16 pm
LSU-BAMA… Been there, done that. Let’s see something new. LSU-OK State would be a great game.
Restore UGA
November 28th, 2011
1:19 pm
@RiffRaff
Urban Myer and Ohio (always overrated) State will be pre-season #1 because of the Northern, Midwestern and West Coast sports writer BIAS.
Ohio State has been the most overrated team of the Century.
Murphy
November 28th, 2011
1:19 pm
@Bulldawgman49,
I believe LSU has the advantage on D-line and the secondary.I do agree that they have a huge edge in the running back catagory. Our o-line must block or we will be in deep trouble. I also agree that UGA will win but I dont see the score quite that high. UGA:18 LSU: 16
Rationale
November 28th, 2011
1:20 pm
For full disclosure I am a SEC fan.
You know it is kind of funny. UGA kicker misses one field goal in the SC game and we are trash because we did not beat SC. Spurrier even said they got lucky in winning that game. On the other hand, Alabama kicker misses 3 field goals and they are still number 2. Something just does not add up here. If Alabama had beaten LSU, LSU would have fallen further down the ranking than number 2.
It is time for the BCS to go. The BCS is all about favorites. It is not about reality. There should never be a BCS championship game with 2 teams from one conference. Regardless of their ranking. And by the way, who in the top ten of the BCS has a 10 game winning streak? LSU and Houston, that is it. By the old method, before the BCS, UGA would easily be in the top 10. The voters are holding UGA back so that there is supposedly no creditability with the call for LSU and Alabama to not play in the Championship game, if, LSU loses. What would be funny, is for UGA to beat LSU, and then play Alabama in the BCS and beat them too. Now that would be funny. Realistic, I do not know, but funny, as opposed to the reality of the BCS.
MY Dawg
November 28th, 2011
1:21 pm
It’s pretty simple, if Ga had beat either S.C. or Boise, they would be in the top 10 and talking about a shot at the NC game. Instead we have been dismissed because we have 2 losses. The best thing that could happen is a win over LSU to send a shove it message out to ESPN and the SEC haters. I heard it has been given a title now, ” SEC fatigue”. Fans from the other conferences can’t stand the SEC. I would be highly shocked if there is a repeat, no matter what the talking heads say. If there is a repeat it will spell disaster for the BCS. The pulse of college footballs fan base does not want it, therefore it won’t happen. Just saying….Go Dawgs!
Restore UGA
November 28th, 2011
1:22 pm
@BullDawgman49,
I hope we do that RB pitch back to Murray that Alabama did to Auburn this weekend. I think Saban was testing that play for LSU. Our coaches should study the Alabama/Auburn game to see some stuff Alabama has put in to use against LSU or to make LSU worry.
Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville
November 28th, 2011
1:24 pm
I love how all these hyprocrite fans come on here and say a team shouldnt play for the National Championship if they dont win their conference
LOL
I would just love to see their reaction if their team was in Alabama’s spot right now. They would be foaming at the mouth with 5 million reasons why their team should play.
Especially Tech fans. They would have their slide rule’s out showing all their formula’s as to why Tech should have to play and the list goes on
IDIOTS
Texas Dawg
November 28th, 2011
1:25 pm
The 07 dawgs being left out of the title game because they did not win the SEC but yet we were one of the best teams in the country at that time…………………………HOW IN HADEZ does ALabama get the shot when they didn’t even win the west…………………BCS is crapola………need a playoff like d2
DelServDawg
November 28th, 2011
1:28 pm
I have been a Bulldog supporter since the late 1960s. I am a UGA alumnus twice (’75, ‘94) and a season ticket holder since 1981. Even in the early years of my support, I was in favor of a play-off championship series and hoped to see one developed over time. Now as I approach my 60th birth date, I fear I will never see a Division I (FBS) play-off in my lifetime. All of this bull about the BCS, which I think is a total failure, would not only be unnecessary with a play-off system, but completely irrelevant. I have always, and still, believe that the national championship should be decided by the young men and coaches on the field and not through the opinions of sports journalists (with apologies to you Bill, I know that you and your colleagues are working with what you’ve been handed). After all, if they were right all of the time there would be no need to even play the games. They could just vote based on their team observations at the beginning of the season and award the national championship. There are a lot of smart folks out there and you can’t make me believe that a play-off system isn’t possible. After all, practically every other organized sport out there has one. No, it doesn’t happen because of big money, just as with anything else. It’s absurd that Division I (FBS) doesn’t have a play-off. It’s just not fair to all those fine young men and coaches who play the game, or to those of us who love to watch them.
Murphy
November 28th, 2011
1:28 pm
Flat tire,
I agree with your last post.Amen!!!!
Murphy
November 28th, 2011
1:30 pm
Looks like another BCS Championship for the SEC!!! Really this is what is bothering the nay sayers in college football.SEC total domination of college football.
Texas Dawg
November 28th, 2011
1:31 pm
@ Flat Tire on I-95………………………..we were in Alabama spot in 07………….and we didn’t get the same shot that ALAbama is getting at the NC……… and that my sir is not being a Hypocrite……..it’s reality………….
Les Miles stated that year “Don’t win your conference shouldn’t be allowed to play for the NC” If the Dawgs win and Les Miles still thinks LSU derserves to play in the NC then he is the hypocrite!
Restore UGA
November 28th, 2011
1:33 pm
Chip, write an article about what you think Larry Munson would say about this upcoming game.
You know he would be sweating bullets.
Murphy
November 28th, 2011
1:33 pm
Im a true Dawg fan and SEC fan.How unbelievable is it that one state could have the last 3 college football national champions and the last 3 Heisman winners.That is awesome.
Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville
November 28th, 2011
1:37 pm
Texas Dawg
Please re-read what I said and pull your underwear out of your rear
MiamiDawg
November 28th, 2011
1:40 pm
First beat LSU then talk.
Biggest problem with GA football is that we talk but haven’t backed it up. If we had showed up for Boise, how could you not be ready for that game, and hadn’t given SC the game we would be in the conversation. But all we can do not is talk garbage from a slight half a decade ago.
Time to put up or shut up.
aw
November 28th, 2011
1:41 pm
Ok, The 4th best team in the SEC is playing for the SEC title. UGA is the luckiest team in the SEC!!!
Your signature win was over a 8 win Ga Tech team. Your signature SEC win was over a 7-5 Auburn. Otherwise the only teams with winning records that UGA has beaten are: Ga Tech, Auburn and Coastal Carolina!!!! and they are playing for the SEC title. GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
War Dang Dawg
November 28th, 2011
1:43 pm
I disagree, but that’s because I’ve always seen the national title – whether under the old bowl system or the current BCS system – as more or less a phony title. Mythical in other words. Great for bragging rights, but not much more than a popularity contest.
But an SEC title is the real deal. We need one more for our 13th, which will put us in second place behind only Bama. Not too bad. If I were LSU, I’d be very motivated to be crowned the champs of such a great and competitive conference. Going to the title game without being crowned champion of your own conference would have a hollow feel to it if I were a LSU alum or fan. But maybe that’s just me.
Snoop Dawg
November 28th, 2011
1:49 pm
Attention, koolaid drinkers!
Flash!!!
UGA should be playing in the NC. Why aren’t they? Mark Richt, that’s why.
It’s simple. He hasn’t won a big game since the Alabama smackdown in Blackout. He’s been found out to be the CEO he claimed he is, not a head football coach.
His incompetence resulted in UGA losing its first two very important games even though our talent was several multiples of either Boise or S Carolina.
Since then, he has excelled on the back of Grantham with the easiest schedule in a century.
Why do all these idiots keep whining about where we are?
They all are clamoring to give Richt a contract extension now.
UGA is destined to such tragedy…
Get used to it…
The beat goes on…
I hope that the Dawgs put the wood to LSU, but even if they do their outstanding opportunity was squandereds by da Preacha Man and Bobo.
Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville
November 28th, 2011
1:49 pm
Miami Dawg
I agree its about time for an upset under this coaching staff. Richt hasnt upset anyone now in what 6,7,8 years
Georgia D
November 28th, 2011
1:50 pm
might not be what Dawgs fans think it is. It was pointed out on ESPN (those Dawg lovers) that the best offense UGA had beaten this year was New Mexico State (!!!!). They must be talking rankings. Either way, with the PATSY SCHEDULE the Dawgs have played this year, it’s hard to know just how good they might be. My guess is not what Dawgs fans think. (Gee have Dawgs fans EVER over-estimated their team ?!?!??) If UGA can hang with them, I think it’ll come down to which QB makes the least mistakes. If it were Lee vs Murray, I’d go with LSU to win. If Jefferson is their guy, AND IF UGA can hang with them physically and speed-wise, I’d give UGA a shot.
Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville
November 28th, 2011
1:52 pm
Snoop Dawg
Yes thats the problem I have with Richt. Go to Vegas and bet on Richt to lose 2 games each year you will win big
Charlie Hayes
November 28th, 2011
1:59 pm
With LSU going to the Nat Champ Game as a given they can play loose, fast and easy going. While UGA will be up tight and worried about making a mistake on every play. LSU has the benefit if you ask me….They can just play hard and fast and not worry about the outcome.
The UGA D will need to stop LSU on every drive for the first 3 to 4 in order for UGA to win the game. The UGA O will need time to work out all the kinks to put a scoring drive together. LSU will be faster, have a better run fit and will have better coverage than any other team we have faced this year. It is known that Murray has problems under pressure. Thus, Bobo needs to get slip screens, bubble screens, HB screens and TE screens on the play chart to ease Murray into some big throws and reduce the pressure that LSU will bring. John Chavis is very familiar with UGA’s O and we will need to run a lot of plays with foreign schemes to throw him off. Example: Boykin and Smith lined up in the backfield at the same time and run them both out into separate flats then throw to the TE in the seam where the LB’s vacated. That was a good foreign scheme.
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
November 28th, 2011
2:06 pm
“But it’s clear which team has the most to gain with a win in the Georgia Dome.”
Yeah, LSU.
The best UGA can hope for is a trip to either the Outback or Peach Bowl.
TampaDawg
November 28th, 2011
2:11 pm
If CMR wins the national championship, Snoop would be on here talking about how he didn’t win the game by enough points. It really doesn’t matter what Mark Richt does, Snoopy Dawg will always want him fired. Get over it Snoopy, it ain’t gonna happen. Don’t like it? Too bad.
Jason
November 28th, 2011
2:12 pm
Unfortunately the commentators seem to be enamored with Saban and Miles. I think this is the biggest difference in the perceived bias on their part. I sometimes think that Mark is not accepted because of his quiet demeanor and frankly the lack of effort on the part of our SID in getting the message out about Mark and the program.
NC Mtn Dawg
November 28th, 2011
2:16 pm
I disagree w/ Charlie about LSU being loose, while UGA will be uptight. They have EVERYTHING to lose. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I agree with Georgia D that we have a better chance against Jefferson at QB. What I fear is us getting a 2 touchdown lead w/ Jefferson at QB, leading Miles to put Lee in to lead a comeback and win it at the end.
chilidawg
November 28th, 2011
2:23 pm
Altamaha, Mark May HATES the dawgs. Might have something to do with UGA keeping Pitt out of the national championship in ‘80 or ‘81, whenever it was. He has always poo-pooed the dawgs.
TampaDawg
November 28th, 2011
2:24 pm
@NC Mtn Dawg .. it has the chance of happening though. I saw the 14 points go up for Arkansas and that lead disappeared QUICK! But then again, Arkansas has no real mentionable defense (as if I expected one from a Bobby Petrino team).
Charlie Hayes
November 28th, 2011
2:24 pm
@ NC Mtn Dawg-
What does LSU have to lose? They are already a given in the NCG. Would you rather have a SEC Champ Trophy or the Crystal Ball? The only thing LSU has to lose is a perfect season mark. UGA has a lot more to lose in this game. A loss puts UGA in the Capitol One or Chick-F-Lay Bowl. A win puts us in the Sugar Bowl. A lot more riding on the line for UGA than LSU. This is why I said LSU can relax, play physical, fast and not worry about the outcome.
clint_atl
November 28th, 2011
2:33 pm
Dawg fans. For the past 3 weeks people have been talking about us and what happened in 2007. As much as I would have to agree I just don’t see the comparisons. In 2007, Ohio State was undefeated and therefore was going to play for the NC. The decision had to be made as to who would play against them. I understand that we were 4th going into that week and LSU was 7th and they jumped us. But for one second if we remove our UGA glasses and look from an outsiders perspective we may come to the same result. You had a 10-2 UGA team to compare to a 11-2 LSU team that was also a conference champ. If you could only pick one team from the SEC, then with LSU being conference champ and also having a better record 11-2 I think they would be the obvious choice. If the same scenario played out in the Big 12 or Big 10 we as SEC fans would be saying why isn’t the conference champ playing for the NC.
This year if LSU wins the conference championship they will be playing for the NC. The question now becomes who is the 2nd team to play. I agree in that I’m not a fan of a rematch but if not Bama then who. I could see Ok St, but definitely not Stanford or Va Tech. Stanford got manhandled by Oregon who was manhandled by LSU. No way for Stanford. Va tech got beat down by Clemson who just last week was beat down by USC. I don’t think Stanford or Va Tech are on the same level as LSU or Bama. Ok St maybe another story and if they beat Oklahoma then I say let them play LSU.
tony
November 28th, 2011
2:36 pm
The BCS is a Fraud!
Yep, the BCS cheated the dawgs in 07. I believe they will have a low tv rating if LSU and AL play for the NC. If 2 teams(TX/OK) from the Big 12 played for the NC I don’t think I would watch it.
War Dang Dawg
November 28th, 2011
2:37 pm
“Would you rather have a SEC Champ Trophy or the Crystal Ball?”
If I could only have one, I’d pick the SEC Champ Trophy. I’ll take a real title over a mythical title any day.
TampaDawg
November 28th, 2011
2:45 pm
@clint_atl
I hear ya, but keep in mind the team that played LSU when LSU won their first BCS title was Oklahoma. By all means, check out how they got in the title game.
KeepDreaming
November 28th, 2011
2:46 pm
The BCS is seriously LAME!
Dawg48
November 28th, 2011
2:48 pm
I love to to come on here and get depressed!
Wow. What a bunch of lackluster bulldog fans! Or at least two.
Restore UGA
November 28th, 2011
2:51 pm
Holy Mollee!
Les Miles is a good coach, and I am worried – but excited – for my dogs this weekend, but the man has a serious speech disability. Check out this interview from Sunday…
http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2011/11/transcript_of_les_miles_sunday.html
Restore UGA
November 28th, 2011
2:54 pm
followup to my posting of the Les Miles interview…. “Don’t judge a book by its cover!” People have different talents. I do horrible in job interviews, but I am a really good programmer and have always been an asset to my employers. I just think differently, so I do have compassion for old Les… just the same, that was a very hard transcript to read.
Restore UGA
November 28th, 2011
2:57 pm
@Dawg48,
“I love to to come on here and get depressed!
Wow. What a bunch of lackluster bulldog fans! Or at least two.:
It is our tradition. Larry Munson did it. Bill Dooley was the King of poor mouthing our team and talking up the other team… even if they were 50 point underdog “sisters of the poor”.
It is just our way. Play down expectations, and celebrate like we have killed Goliath if we pull of the victory!
UGA Alumnus
November 28th, 2011
2:59 pm
How ’bout them Dawgs!
boots
November 28th, 2011
3:05 pm
Bama had their shot and LOST. It is a terrible system that sets up a rematch of a game that just occured a couple of months ago. If OK State wins v. OK, it deserves to go over Bama. As a fan of the SEC, I want another SEC NC team, but we cannot twist logic and the system to get that done. Dawgs beat LSU and LSU still plays for and wins the NC.
WDE
November 28th, 2011
3:06 pm
It will be a honor to play the Bayou Bengals of LSU for the SEC championship, they are a true no.1 team and I hope we can make it a great game. We really can’t lose we get a very good bowl game we won 10 games this year and defeated the dastardly foes from UT, UF,Auburn and Tech and we are SEC East champs ! Hat’s off to CMR and his staff and his team that never quit on him or themselves !! Go Dawgs!
Restore UGA
November 28th, 2011
3:15 pm
@WDE
Great point. It is cool playing the #1 team after the bad start we had at the beginning of the season. I hope we make a good game of it. I really hope we win.
If Murray is on and our young receivers are making plays, we are as dangerous as anyone. That 2nd quarter against Mexico State (I know…) was very memorable. 1 touchdown short of an NCAA single quarter record!!!!
I want FB Figgins to get a carry and little Karempolis to get a couple of carries!
fan
November 28th, 2011
3:29 pm
LSU do not have a QB that is why UGA. will win this game LSU QB been doing the same thing for 4 yrs. which is not a lot he would need to do more than just run
Flo-Ri-Duh
November 28th, 2011
3:38 pm
Just the facts. Bama LOST to LSU therefore LSU is better than Bama. If Georgia beats LSU then they will have beaten the #1 ranked team that just happened to beat the #2 team. Therefor, an argument can be made that Georgia is better than LSU and Bama. ESPN does not rank the teams they just give opinions usually based on revenue.
Border dweller
November 28th, 2011
3:40 pm
If the Dawgs smack them coonarses, and I believe they will, why would anyone then want to see a rematch of said coonarses vs the rednecks from Tuskaloose? Last time I saw them play, all they could manage was 15 points between ‘em. The west is overrated, folks.
WDE
November 28th, 2011
3:40 pm
@Flo-Ri-Duh your last sentence said it all! Well done!
Dr. Morpheus
November 28th, 2011
3:41 pm
@Restore UGA. I’ve lived in Baton Rouge these past 30 years and am very familiar with LSU football. I wish you could hear the call in shows- no respect whatsoever for the Dawgs. “They haven’t played anybody” over and over, “Wait until they play a real SEC West team” etc. I hope the LSU players are listening to the shows… Wouldn’t it be something to have that 14 point lead with our D?
Snoop Dawg
November 28th, 2011
3:47 pm
Dr Morpheus.
They are right. UGA hasn’t really played anyone with an excellent team all year.
I know all the koolaid kids are ready to sign Richt to a 25 year extension for going 10-2 with the easiest schedule in the history of the SEC, but the fact is that the teams UGA has played have an overall losing record, and not a single one of them except for the teams they lost to are in the Top 25 of any football poll.
Wake up, folks.
Restore UGA
November 28th, 2011
3:49 pm
@Dr. Morpheus
I am concerned about the SEC officiating. The SEC in general, wants the undefeated LSU vs. Alabama rematch. The officiating has never been overly affectionate to the dawgs.
Look for questionable calls…. not that anything can be done about it.
Snoop Dawg
November 28th, 2011
3:49 pm
Koolaid Nation, attention!
This game with LSU will be a good test to see if da Preacha Man Markt Marjoe Richt is really a coach or just an imposter.
I hope the Dawgs are victorious, but hope is not a method…
Do not bet on the spread unless you have money to burn…
Restore UGA
November 28th, 2011
3:51 pm
@Snoop Dawg
Do you hate Christians?
WDE
November 28th, 2011
3:52 pm
@Snoop Dawg that is a non issue if we beat the Packers with Aaron Murray 10 out of 10 you’d still find fault with CMR…how does it feel that after all your bitter ranting and raving all year we are now 10-2 and SEC East champs…We beat UT,UF,Auburn and Tech this year one of the reasons they had down years is that we beat them….by they way that is something you didn’t think could happen either.
Go Dawgs!
November 28th, 2011
4:06 pm
So here it is Let’s look at the contenders -note: the Coaches Poll as it sits today was used for rankings
LSU, win or lose against UGA they SHOULD go based on their overall body of work. No one else comes close
Ranked wins: Oregon(7), West Va(20), Bama(2), Ark(10)*
Currently; 0 losses
Bama-body of work not as impressive upon closer examination
Ranked wins: Ark(10)* Penn St(22)
Oklahoma St
Ranked wins: Kansas St(15), Baylor(18)
loss: bad one against Iowa St 6-5 have a chance to boost credibilty with win against Oklahoma(11) plus would win conference championship
Stanford
Ranked wins: 0 They shouldn’t go on this fact alone
Loss: Oregon(7)
VaTech
Ranked wins: 0
Loss: Clemson(21)-they do get a chance to redeem themselves, but stil no ranked wins to speak of.
So really it comes down to LSU vs Bama/OkSt-assuming OkSt beats Oklahoma.
If OkSt beats Oklahoma then the question is pretty simple which carries more weight:
1. Bama’s lone loss coming at the hands of the best team in the country and two ranked wins
2. OkSt’s lone loss coming on the road to a poor team, but 3 wins against ranked opponents AND winning their confernce championship.
Should OkSt win it’s pretty much cut and dry that it should be LSU/Bama, no one else is deserving
*Interesting note on Ark- their claim to fame is getting blown out by LSU and Bama by the same margin and their one quality win was at home to SC without Lattimore and against a 3rd string QB most of the game, close wins against Ole Miss and Tex A&M. Not sure they are a true top 10 team.
Thoughts?
Go Dawgs!
November 28th, 2011
4:08 pm
*Should OKLAHOMA win it’s pretty much cut and dry that it should be LSU/Bama, no one else is deserving
If, if, if...
November 28th, 2011
4:09 pm
…IF is the biggest word in the English language…
IF UGA beats LSU, LSU could still play in the MNC, unless UGA blows them out (which is not likely)…or,
IF OKState beats OK, they SHOULD jump AL and play in the MNC, against LSU, IF LSU beats UGA, or loses a close one….or,
IF OKState wins, and IF LSU loses, and IF VATech wins, and because AL did not win its DIVISION (and I do not care who you are, if you do not win your division then you CANNOT play in the MNC), then OKState should play LSU or VATech in the MNC…and,
IF frogs had wings, they would not whomp their azz every time they jumped…
george
November 28th, 2011
4:09 pm
does the crying ever end for you pathetic pups?
Snoop Dawg
November 28th, 2011
4:10 pm
WDE, it’s because of idiots like you and Restore UGA that we will never have a consistently successful program in my lifetime. Too many I love Richt zombies…
Try to look at the situation objectively… Quit drinking the Koolaid… Sober up…
Jim
November 28th, 2011
4:10 pm
When Georgia beats LSU both and OK St wins this weekend LSU should drop to #3 and Alabama should drop to #4. OK St. and Stanford should play for the NC.
Kelly
November 28th, 2011
4:13 pm
It’s a foregone conclusion. The Gods over at ESPN just proclaimed on Palmer/Pollack that Richardson has the edge for the Heisman “because he’s playing for the BCS championship.” The shills have spoken.
Mike
November 28th, 2011
4:13 pm
Quirk? Not a chance. Its called greed and money. Make no mistake, 2007 UGA was held back because, like it or not UGA fans, Georgia is not a national name brand program. Ohio St., Oklahoma, and LSU are. That is why Ohio St. was allowed to play for the championship without having beaten one ranked opponent that year.
LSU and Bama this year? Their first meeting was a TV ratings bonanza. The only teams with a shot at dislodging this are UGA, Oklahoma St., Virginia Tech, and Stanford. What do they all have in common? They aren’t national “name brands” or whatever is perceived as such.
This system is designed to maximize its money and line the pockets of the top programs and conferences…period. That is all they care about, and they will rewrite both BCS rules and their own unwritten ones to that end.
TampaDawg
November 28th, 2011
4:16 pm
Snoopy Dog will never like Mark Richt as evidence of his “da preacha man” tag before his name .. I think he does have something against Christians but that’s his problem. Like you elluded to WDE, UGA could win consecutive BCS trophies and it wouldn’t be enough for hate filled snoopy dog. He sounds like just a lonely kid who cracks on others to make himself feel better.
arpiem
November 28th, 2011
4:17 pm
ESPN has been biased against the Dawgs for a number of years now. Even though the Kentucky game was for the SEC East championship, it wasn’t shown in the Northeast. Instead, some truly dinky and unimportant games were shown. How can a team thump Tech and drop a spot in the poll? I never liked Mark May and think he’s an idiot who thinks he knows everything.
Go Dawgs!
November 28th, 2011
4:17 pm
No way Stanford should go. They didn’t beat ONE single ranked opponent. Houston should go before Stanford, they will at least have beaten a ranked team in So. Miss in the conf. championship
TampaDawg
November 28th, 2011
4:20 pm
Snoop Dawg
November 28th, 2011
4:10 pm
WDE, it’s because of idiots like you and Restore UGA that we will never have a consistently successful program in my lifetime. Too many I love Richt zombies…
Try to look at the situation objectively… Quit drinking the Koolaid… Sober up…
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Unreal. 74 wins in 7 years with 2 SEC titles and 2 BCS bowl wins but the guy says he hasn’t seen a consistantly successful program. Point from earlier proven. Your luke warm support isn’t needed.
JT from Columbus
November 28th, 2011
4:21 pm
Hey Snoop,
Get off Coach’s personal belief in God! If you want express your opinion on his coaching philosophy or lack thereof is your prerogative. I think you go over the line when you get personal about his religious beliefs, they have nothing to to with his coaching. .
TampaDawg
November 28th, 2011
4:23 pm
Go Dawgs!
November 28th, 2011
4:17 pm
No way Stanford should go. They didn’t beat ONE single ranked opponent. Houston should go before Stanford, they will at least have beaten a ranked team in So. Miss in the conf. championship
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Washington, USC and Notre Dame (I know, but still) were all ranked when Stanford played them. The great Southern Miss lost to UAB. Houston barely beat La Tech, UCLA and UTEP (a team USF handled easily).
AceDawg
November 28th, 2011
4:25 pm
LSU will take the opportunity to prevent BCS controversy seriously – They don’t want a national championship game between two SEC runner-ups either, and they certainly would like to be recognized as having one of the most successful championship runs ever, which can’t be the case if the Dawgs prevail. It’s going to be a knock-down dragout kind of game. LSU deserves to be noticeable favorites, but I think most people who truly know both teams realize the Dawgs have the right kind of ingredients to be capable of winning. If Crowell and/or Samuel can carry a full load, I think UGA’s talent will be good enough to hang in, and either team’s defense is capable of an exceptional game with multiple turnovers.
Denverdawg
November 28th, 2011
4:36 pm
Mark May is the most least like person in all of the ESPN family, when are they going to see that. That’s a no-brainer.
AltamahaDawg
November 28th, 2011
4:37 pm
The problem is not that the BCS system comes to different answers to the same question (one year VS another). It’s that it comes to the same answer no matter what the questions are.
Mark (another one)
November 28th, 2011
4:49 pm
There will never be a FBS playoff. In fact, the BCS is the compromise. Before the BCS, the bowl tie-ins often kept the top two teams in the polls from playing each other. The BCS ended that issue by creating a one game championship between the top two teams. The other BCS Bowls are great but they have no impact on the national championship.
Why did this one game compromise come into play? MONEY! Go ahead and follow the logic displayed in these blogs and play it out. Only conference champions are allowed into the playoffs. Don’t win your conference, don’t go to the playoffs. So, that would put LSU on an equal footing with Northern Illinois while leaving Alabama at home.
Who would watch said playoffs? I can’t imagine anything more lobsided that LSU vs. the WAC champions, Louisiana Tech. When that game happens in the regular season, LSU has to pay LT to play them and LT uses the payout to fund their athletic department.
No system is perfect but the BCS does two things. It puts 1 vs 2 in a single championship game, and it maintains the large payouts from the big four bowls, who get to host the national championship on a rotating basis. Isn’t compromise grand?
Snoop Dawg
November 28th, 2011
4:54 pm
TampaDawg, you can add yourself to the Koolaid crowd of I love Richt zombies like WDE and Restore UGA (whatever that means).
There’s an old adage: what you want to see, you will see more of. All these blind homer zombies are actually more harmful to UGA football than all the opponent teams and booster clubs put together.
They effectively keep the university from being forced to hire top notch coaches to match the top notch caliber of Georgia’s high school football talent.
Keeping imposters like Richt and Bobo around is not fair to anyone…
These guys are costing the university millions and millions with very little to show for it.
If we performed on the job like they do, we’d have been fired a long time ago.
Even the federal government civil service would have fired them by now….
But because he’s “a good Christian man”… btw, how do we know he’s a good Christian man? Because he tells us incessantly. For a reason… So that he can get the zombies to pressure folks to “get him an extension.”
It’s enough to make you sick…
Snoop Dawg
November 28th, 2011
4:58 pm
JT,
I’m not on Richt’s “personal belief” in God. I’m tired of his public campaign plan to wear it on his sleeve. It’s inappropriate. BTW, I am a good Christian man too. But I don’t go around at work every day witnessing about it.
This is nothing more than a Schtick at worst and just amateurism at best. Most likely, it’s just cunning playing to the Bible Belt Appalachian audience…
Rampdawg
November 28th, 2011
5:06 pm
It’s 5:05 and ESPN is practicly fellating Urban Meyer.
TampaDawg
November 28th, 2011
5:07 pm
Snoop Dawg
November 28th, 2011
4:58 pm
JT,
I’m not on Richt’s “personal belief” in God. I’m tired of his public campaign plan to wear it on his sleeve. It’s inappropriate. BTW, I am a good Christian man too. But I don’t go around at work every day witnessing about it.
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Messed up your credibility with this post. A Christian’s entire purpose is to build the Kingdom of God. Wearing it on his sleeve? Every real Christian will tell you that is EXACTLY where you should wear it. What, am I supposed to be embarrassed about being a Christian. No, so I have no problem bringing it up. It’s inappropriate to say you are one and then hide it away. It’s obvious you don’t really know what you are talking about so I won’t go further but honestly, inappropriate? Please? Witnessing to people as a Christian whenever, wherever you can is not only appropriate for a Christian, it’s Biblical.
DAWGBONE79
November 28th, 2011
5:25 pm
No way Bammer plays for BCS Championship!
DouglasDawg
November 28th, 2011
5:40 pm
No bigger CMR supporter than me… and very glad Thomas Brown has been shut up!
But guys, I’m sorry I aint drinking the Kool Aid….. I just don’t see it…… LSU is bigger and stronger in the backfield, has a better defense than ours and down right dominated a good Ark team. Now I think our D is better than there’s but our O…. I don’t see it…
I really want to believe but honestly getting to 10-2 and saving CMR and the program has been great. 11-3 is nothing to complain about! Go Dawgs
TampaDawg
November 28th, 2011
5:48 pm
@DouglasDawg .. hard for me to see a win in that game as well. But I don’t think it will be the blow out the trolls are predicting. And who knows, bigger upsets have happened. And any team with a really good D will be in the game the whole way.
zbulldawg
November 28th, 2011
5:58 pm
THIS game means everything to UGA !! 0-2 to 10-2 !! A chance to play the No. 1 team in all of college Football !! This is ALL about UGA !! Let LSU , all their fans & all the writers ETC. Keep talking all that mess ” LSU does’nt have to worry Win or Lose ” That does’nt play one play on either side of the ball for UGA !! WE WILL JUST KEPT DOING WHAT WE DO !! SICK EM
TampaDawg
November 28th, 2011
6:00 pm
nice post zdawg .. and I couldn’t agree more.
EAST TN Dawg
November 28th, 2011
6:06 pm
ESPN is a joke…Mark May/Holtz/Herbstreit/all of them are just scripted. In 2007 Herbstreit was adamant that you needed to win your conference to even have a shot at the NC, not this year. They’re repeating what the execs encourage..Trying to dictate ratings. The UGAA probably doesn’t kiss ESPN’s as* enough, therefore, don’t get enough love. F’em. The BCS is an even bigger joke…
All that matters to me is an Eastern Division Championship/SEC Championship. Those are quantifiable. All the rest is B.S. Politics….
bugsquacher
November 28th, 2011
6:31 pm
Picked this off another blog…..IS IT TRUE?
I have it from a very authoritative source inside the UGA administration that he’s been lobbying hard to suspend Mark Richt for one game because he allowed Branden Smith to play too many snaps on offense yesterday.
bugsquacher
November 28th, 2011
6:31 pm
THE “HE” IS ….. UGA PRESIDENT ADAMS
A-Ville Ranger
November 28th, 2011
6:38 pm
The BCS is a gd joke. If you’re still against a playoff, you’re a complete fool or on the BCS payroll.
maddawg913
November 28th, 2011
6:43 pm
Mike @ 4:13 pm,
you sir are dead on the money (no pun intended)!! I’ve been saying the same for years. The reason the Dawgs didn’t line up against USC in 07 was to keep controversy down; instead we played a weak HI and they played a weak IL. end of argument!
maddawg913
November 28th, 2011
6:46 pm
bugsquasher,
not saying someone didn’t say it but he can’t be that stupid!
Destin Dawg
November 28th, 2011
6:46 pm
NCAA needs a 16 team playoff.. they can all be ” Bowl Games ” @ same locations and close to same Dates.. every other sport has ‘em
Dawg48
November 28th, 2011
6:49 pm
How do we know bama is better than okie st?
maddawg913
November 28th, 2011
6:52 pm
In 07, I told anyone who would listen that this argument about winning your conference would change back. They dismissed that as an argument the year before for Oklahoma and they will use the “not winning your conference” again when it helps bring what they think is the best money making match up. You change the argument to match your wishes; the all should have been lawyers.
Mike summed it up the best at 4:13pm.
maddawg913
November 28th, 2011
7:00 pm
DouglasDawg,
I agree LSU is a better team than us overall. With that being said I think our defense is the equalizer. If, and I think we can, shut down their offense it could very well be a game very similar to the lsu-bama game. We will need Blair Walsh to show up like he is capable.
GATA go now I need to refill my delicious glass of Kool-aid; have some!!
DawgVoiceofReason
November 28th, 2011
7:10 pm
schmeckdawg,
We (UGA) were 10th in the 1981 AP preseason poll and 7th in the 1982 preseason poll, according to http://www.collegepollarchive.com/football/
BCS stinks
November 28th, 2011
7:16 pm
Heard Chris Fowler on ESPN radio saying even if LSU gets blown out, it’ll still be Bama and LSU in championship, this is more scripted than Pro Wrestling.
Dawg89
November 28th, 2011
7:19 pm
I hope the dawgs are better prepared for LSU than they were for BSU.
ESPN cost UGA a shot at the NC in 2007. And, they pretty much try to hose UGA any chance they get. Alabama should not be in the NC game when they didn’t win the conference. That same logic applied in 07 and it applies this year. I just wonder how ESPN stands to make more money off of a LSU/Ala matchup than some other matchup. College football and the BCS is about money and the NC game is about money. Don’t kid yourself otherwise. It has nothing to do with pitting the best teams against each other. If that happens, then that’s OK to the BCS. But, the main objective of the BCS is to generate revenue.
1969 Graduate
November 28th, 2011
7:26 pm
I think we do have a shot against LSU, assuming we show up, and assuming we make very few errors.
Looking again at the LSU/Arkansas game today, I noticed a lot of Arkansas self-inflicted damage, and a lot of Arkansas plays which LSU didn’t stop all that effectively.
Considering that Arkansas was very, very lucky to beat Vandy (and was outplayed by Vandy), it may be that LSU isn’t quite as hot on defense as everyone thinks.
No, I’m not saying LSU isn’t a great team. I think they are. However, they are a team made up of mortal human kids, like everybody else’s team, and they are not immune to loss.
Can we avoid shooting ourselves in the foot?
The big elephant in the room is Mike Bobo, who will be leagues out of his depth. Of course, his boss, that great CEO Mark Richt should have fired Bobo when he (finally) fired Mr. Soft Secondary, his buddy, the loser Willie Martinez.
Yes, that makes me a fan of some of the things mentioned by Snoop Dawg, and Thomas Brown. I assume they are Bulldog fans, and also realists who, like me, would like to see our football program surpass the mediocre.
Here’s you big chance Mr. Richt, and Mr. Bobo. Can you play with the big boys? Let’s see.
Go, Georgia. Go, Bulldogs. Go, Georgia Bulldogs!
Thomas Brown
November 28th, 2011
7:34 pm
I’m a Tech fan.
DawgVoiceofReason
November 28th, 2011
7:54 pm
Snoop,
I don’t like your attitude and I suspect I wouldn’t like you if I met you. Your attitude stinks. Bob Dylan wrote a song that describes how I (and many others) think about your posts. (paraphrase) “I wish that for just one day you could stand in my shoes and then you’d know what a drag it is to see you”. We just won 10 games in a row, beating every one of our hated rivals, with the chance to knock off the number one and undefeated team in the country and alll you can do is moan about Mark Richt and call him names. Your handle defines you pretty well, you punk!
Bogey
November 28th, 2011
8:15 pm
Listen, folks, It’s not that ESPN doesn’t like the SEC it’s just that CBS has first dibs every week so always gets the best game and the four letter network has to settle for leftovers. Kinda funny really.
Hey Bill
November 28th, 2011
8:16 pm
maybe Richt can use this in his pregame speech……………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Cc6eVHYhg&feature=related
Old Dawg
November 28th, 2011
8:23 pm
16 game playoff is the only way to solve this problem. Every other division in the NCAA has a playoff system, even D-III, a much more academically oriented division.
Enough with the BS, get ‘er done!
tell me again
November 28th, 2011
8:33 pm
Isn’t this hilarious? If LSU loses to UGA they will not even be the SEC champion – and yet if they go to the BCS CG and win they will be crowned BCS NC’s – does that mean that the second best team in the SEC is the National Champion?
On a side note: Zook got fired at Illinois / Neuheisel got canned at UCLA / and our man Neil Calloway got the boot at UAB – should have stayed a Dawg, Neil.
Neutral
November 28th, 2011
8:36 pm
I believe snoopy is a GT, Gator or Auburn fan who is trying to get CMR fired. It won’t work you fool and you certainly aren’t a Dawg fan. UGa fans have class and you are totally classless.
tell me again
November 28th, 2011
8:37 pm
Thomas Brown you are so full of it / that’s why you’re “Brown” – you are not a Tech fan – I caught you on the Tech board doing the same thing there you do here – you’re just a little pr**ck that is floating around making trouble. What a pitiful life you must have. Need attention much? Mommie and Daddy not patting you on the head enough lately?
Old Dawg Fan
November 28th, 2011
8:54 pm
Excellent analogy about the “accident waiting to happen” Bill. Dogs certainly have a chance vs. LSU. It is time for Myles to blow a game!!! Go Dogs!!!
Beano Cook
November 28th, 2011
8:57 pm
Clay
November 28th, 2011
12:04 pm
“I’m tired of UGA still being punished for a 3 point loss back in September. 10 wins and a SEC East crown mean nothing in any of the polls…”
It’s not punishment. The SEC East crown has meant nothing for the past 2 years and that’s about the weakest 10 game win streak in the history of win streaks.
techismybee-otch
November 28th, 2011
9:14 pm
If Bama goes to the NCG and LSU goes even if they lose to UGA, then I PROMISE you that I will not watch the game…crazy….and if I am LSU, then I am clamoring for when the rubber match game would be….if necessary….Bama had a chance and lost it on their home field…and scored 6 points and they think they should get a 2nd chance? BCS is screwed up!
Santa Ana Winds
November 28th, 2011
9:15 pm
“UGA fans have class…”
What a load of crap.
Shame on UGA
November 28th, 2011
9:18 pm
It’s really sad that UGA alumni and fans have only their football team to take pride in. It’s even sadder that this pride depends on the performance of illiterate dummies who don’t even come close to meeting minimum academic requirements. 75% of UGA football players are what UGA calls “special admits,” which is just a euphemism for admitting bozos who can barely read.
This sorry practice not only cheapens all UGA degrees, but embarrasses the State of Georgia and its citizens.
BMOC
November 28th, 2011
9:29 pm
NCAA = JOKE
We need a PLAYOFF system -OR- a NFL farm-team league. I am SICK & TIRED of this BS!
Just think: A TRUE NFL farm-team league that players can come staight from HS (like they do now) to play for their minimum 3-years, while earning enough money to actually pay for a car or an apartment. No more crap from the NCAA over someone selling a jersey; no more recruiting violations. NO MORE BCS BS!!!!
phil
November 28th, 2011
9:30 pm
Fire Urban myers and bernie fine!
DawgInaTruck
November 28th, 2011
9:30 pm
Don”t worry about the BCS-we can’t control it. All we can do is focus on LSU and do our best in the SECCG.
We also return a ton of players for next year and beyond. We played a significant number of freshmen and sophomores this year. We are going to do nothing but get better and better. This team will be scary good for the next few years.
phil
November 28th, 2011
9:31 pm
Shame on UGA – on the contrary, you nitwit, it’s morons like you that embarass our great state. Get your facts straight and get a life and stay over on your loser Tech site….
phil
November 28th, 2011
9:32 pm
Santa Ana Winds on the other hand defines class!
What a load of crap!
big JOE
November 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
Santa Ana Winds
Shame on UGA
lol… Gets old losing 10 of 11 ehe?
Shame on someone who is so pitiful they feel the need to log-on to a UGA page at the local paper to vent. LMAO!!!
DawgInaTruck
November 28th, 2011
9:35 pm
phil and JOE-never argue with an idiot. They’ll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Beano Cook
November 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
Why should Georgia fans even care how the National Champion is chosen anyway? What effect could any of it possibly have on them?
big JOE
November 28th, 2011
9:38 pm
DawgInaTruck
You’re right.. Not here to argue, and I know I shouldn’t respond to idiots… but I just couldn’t help myself.. I was like a GIANT cookie after being on weight watchers for 12 months.
DawgInaTruck
November 28th, 2011
9:49 pm
“It was like a GIANT cookie…weight watchers…12 months”
LOL JOE, we all understand.
DawgInaTruck
November 28th, 2011
9:53 pm
When you have a lot of success, you leave a lot of angry fans of vanquished teams in your wake. I love to read the comments from people hatin’ on the Dawgs. It proves where we are and where they are.
Beano Cook
November 28th, 2011
10:01 pm
“It proves where we are and where they are.”
UGA rules Tech… And that’s about all. Both are irrelevant outside the borders of Georgia.
01HAWK
November 28th, 2011
10:08 pm
You guys are hillarious. Seems like 1 out of 3 post seem to have BAMA in it.
birddawgbill
November 28th, 2011
10:15 pm
Speaking of how ESPN disrespects UGA, A few weeks back KH said UGA and its fans liked to think the Football team was on a national level the same as Ala. Fla. and LSU. but he didnt see how we could think that. It just isnt a fact he said. Well why dont he check his facts. Since CMR got here UGA has more wins than anyone in the SEC except for LSU. This will be our 4th SECCG again more than all but LSU. All they have that we dont is a NC which we should have gotten in 2007 except for ESPN demanding that UGA couldnt go to the BCSNCG. I cant stand ESPN. All they get from me is watching the really good games they carry. Which I have found if you look around theres usually a better one on somewhere. Same thing when it comes to our local pro franchises, what little they do say about them is mostly negative. So if anyone from ESPN is reading this your sports coverage is 2nd rate.
wins-by-a-link
November 28th, 2011
10:37 pm
Losing the first two games to ranked teams combined with a weak schedule (Not Georgia’s fault) has led to poor ranking, ESPN has been harsh on Dogs but remember the Dogs are coming off a losing season and are yet to beat a highly ranked team, Even a win over LSU would not likely put Ga in top ten.
Honey Badger
November 28th, 2011
11:03 pm
We gonna lose. UGA 34 – Who Dat losers 14. Then dem dumb A’s on talkin football and kirk gonna look stupid.
sports
November 28th, 2011
11:04 pm
Georgia has nothing to win, LSU has nothing to lose…just flip a F…… coin!
Vampire Bill
November 28th, 2011
11:04 pm
Of course I want to beat LSU but just think of what this does for our recruiting. Dawgs are still a young team and can offer playing time at a lot of positions. Future could be very bright.
funny...
November 28th, 2011
11:14 pm
I guess I’m not alone in thinking that everyone basically giving Georgia no chance plays into the Dawgs favor.
Reminds me of “man enough”. There is a lot of bulletin board material for the Dawgs this week.
The only Dawgs I worry about is Crowell. He’s the only one that scares me.
funny...
November 28th, 2011
11:17 pm
People also forget that in 2002 Georgia was 13-1. That record basically any other year since CMR got to Athens is good enough for a nod to the BCSNCG.
Georgia’s recent slide is the Willie Martinez factor. Just think if Matt Stafford and Knowshon Moreno had the benefit of a Grantham/Van Gorder defense.
Georgia certainly is a “national” program.
JRW7
November 28th, 2011
11:19 pm
ESPN once said, !If you don’t win your conference, you CAN’T play for a NC!
DawgVoiceofReason
November 28th, 2011
11:22 pm
Tech fans are despondent over the fact that they just can’t beat seem to beat UGA, no matter how hard they try. So, they come here and try to rile up the Dawg fans. It’s pathetic really, how these insects creep in here and try to stir things up. They are just suffering from an inferiority complex.
DawgVoiceofReason
November 28th, 2011
11:27 pm
We really don’t need to worry about what the cast of characters (some of them) at ESPN say, and face it, we don’t deserve to talk about the NC. We just need to beat LSU, if we can, and claim the SEC championship. It’s the only thing in our control.
Dawgma
November 29th, 2011
12:01 am
If they’re going to re-up with the BCS after next year, which all indications show they will, there has to be some revisions made. For one, if you don’t win your conference, you can’t play for the NC. Saban said so himself: “If you don’t win your conference, you have no busines playing in the NC”.
Two, if you don’t make that proclamation, then you MUST got to a + 1. Have 1 play 4 and 2 play 3. The winners play each other for NC. Or just do the right thing and go to a freakin playoff…..
Relentless Pursuit
November 29th, 2011
12:03 am
Georgia’s going to the SECCG and South Carolina ain’t. A nice win over Tech. Regardless of the pundits, that’s not a bad year.
Fair and Balanced
November 29th, 2011
5:37 am
The BCS is broken and everybody knows it. And it can’t be fixed. I want Ga to win Sat because Im a Ga fan, secondly, I want the BCS to get as confused as possible! If Ga beats Lsu then Ga is better than Lsu and should play for NC before Lsu. But the BCS is not about who is best, it’s about who has the best season. If it was about who is best then the question is, is it about who is best at the end of the season or at some point earlier? A 2 loss team could be the best team in the country at the end of the season. Look at green bay last year! Look at Ga in ‘07. How did we let this BCS thing get so high and mighty?
JE
November 29th, 2011
6:31 am
Dawg fans cannot seem to ever get out of the past. Whether it is 2007 or 1980. Focus on the present. One thing I want to ask about the ESPN crew…Has Mark May ever been invited to be on any of the Atlanta, or any SEC Talk Shows????? I think that says a lot about his credibility.
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
6:45 am
funny…
November 28th, 2011
11:17 pm
People also forget that in 2002 Georgia was 13-1. That record basically any other year since CMR got to Athens is good enough for a nod to the BCSNCG.
A one loss season will often get you into the BCSCG. In 2002, however, Ohio State and Miami both finished the season undefeated. The mistake that Georgia fans are making is in assuming that the SEC East Division Champions are the second best team in the SEC. That is certainly not the case, nor was it the case last year.
It is so funny to think that ESPN would actually give UGA enough thought to bother to scheme and plot against them!
Dawg fans are delusional.
way down south dawg
November 29th, 2011
7:31 am
if any uga fans believe mike slime is going to allow us to win,you are not being realistic.ITS ALL ABOUT DA MONEY BABY,and if slime has to turn on the water sprinklers or threaten the head refs mama ,he will do it.just sayin
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
7:43 am
Oh yeah! It’s not just the sports broadcasters out to get UGA. It’s the SEC too.
They’re all out to get us!!!
JSillaGA
November 29th, 2011
7:52 am
I can tell you that the only people who want to see a LSU-Bama rematch is the Bama fans and the idiots at ESPN. The rest of 299.75 million Americans don’t want to see that game.
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
7:55 am
@JSillaGA
http://www.bcsfootball.org/
Read it and weep. The Red Kool-Aid Delusional Syndrome is not nearly as widespread as you imagine.
Whoa! is Me
November 29th, 2011
8:06 am
Everybody’s out to get us Christians !
Everybody’s out to get us rednecks !
Everybody’s out to get us heterosexuals !
Everybody’s out to get us conservatives !
Everybody’s out to get us NASCAR fans !
Everybody’s out to get us pro wrestling fans !
Everybody’s out to get us white folks !
Everybody’s out to get UGA !
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
8:10 am
Heh!
Georgia just needs an Affirmative Action Program for college football.
AltamahaDawg
November 29th, 2011
8:15 am
Not nearly as widespread as the Rival Obsession Syndrome.
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
8:22 am
“Not nearly as widespread as the Rival Obsession Syndrome.”
Thought you guys beat Florida this year? Everybody else certainly did.
AltamahaDawg
November 29th, 2011
8:48 am
Bottom line, YOU are in OUR blog. That says all there is to say on obsession.
dovebirddog
November 29th, 2011
8:51 am
TV Talking heads suck. Thats why god made radio. Bcs sucks. Win your conference and you have made a statement. thats the best you can expect from yourself because the bcs is a sham. when cmr & ctg finish working sat afternoon the talking heads wont be able to talk the seccg away from the junkyard dawgs. nuff sed.
RxDawg
November 29th, 2011
9:01 am
I agree that LSU should make it if they lose out of the regular season in the SEC champ game. I do not agree that Bama should be the 2nd team. I understand the argument from both sides of this and I do think Bama is probably a better team then OkSt or VaTech… but the key word there is probably. I don’t like the idea of VaTech going, they played nobody outside of their already weak ACC schedule. So if OkSt beats Oklahoma, I think they should go.
I also think maybe Boise should be looked at too.
Bottom line is Bama had their chance. They lost, at home. It’s exactly the same scenario with UGA in 07. I also think the voters nation wide will feel similar and there will probably be a bunch of whining Bama fans next Monday am.
Whoa! is Me
November 29th, 2011
9:25 am
Assuming LSU wins as expected this week-end, who do you think the top 2 teams are ? Do you think Okie St is better than Alabama ? How about Va Tech ? Bama is “probably” better ? Really ? It’s “probably” going to be a rematch for the NC, like it or not.
Honky Talkin
November 29th, 2011
9:26 am
Georgia is 2-2 against teams with a current winning record. Dawg fans are delusional to think you have a chance agaiinst LSU.
truedawg
November 29th, 2011
9:35 am
where is my question?
truedawg
November 29th, 2011
9:39 am
Respect the playoff the SEC has!! We played the games…we have a best of East and best of West. When they play we will have a best of the SEC. NC games should be the SEC champ vs another conference champ. Bama needs to go to another bowl. If we don’t agree to this SEC champ is best the SEC has to offer then why do we have an SEC championship game??!!!!!
GO DAWGS!!!
truedawg
November 29th, 2011
9:42 am
Instead of shutting down the BCS are we SEC fans going to let it nullify our SEC Champ??
CHDawg
November 29th, 2011
9:47 am
HonkyT, UGA fans aren’t delusional at all. The nutcase weirdos who invent new names every week and live to talk Georgia football down are worse than delusional. They morph into the fan base of the week to hate on UGA. 90% of our fans have shown tremendous respect for LSU and understand we are the underdawgs this week. There is nothing delusional here. Should the underdawgs become the wonderdawgs, and upset LSU, then we certainly do have an argument to make. We would have just proven ourselves the champions of the toughest conference in football–the SEC, through on field performance. This 11 game win streak, coupled with defeating the SEC West champion on the field, would make a very strong argument that Georgia should be in the BCS Championship game. Of course, many others will have legitimate arguments, too. LSU is favored by a large margin, so it will take a real surprise to even field this argument. Point is, UGA fans are pretty sober minded, and the morphing haters are delusional.
Evansdawg
November 29th, 2011
9:50 am
I disagree Bill. They have an SEC Championship on the line. Thats a lot to gain for any team. LSU has plenty on the line. If they lose to the Dawgs but win the NC…its still tarnished by the lack of a conference championship.
Whoa! is Me
November 29th, 2011
9:50 am
As a morphing hater, what have I said that is delusional ?
CHDawg
November 29th, 2011
9:52 am
Dawg Fans, Glad to see G. Smith was honored. I have noticed his motor all year. He really hustles and has reminded me of J. Jones and his relentless pursuit every time I have seen him. Hope Tyson is back, but I think we have a great one in the making is Smith. Go Dawgs.
CHDawg
November 29th, 2011
9:54 am
The delusion is who you are. Just ID yourself. Let us know who you are and why you hate UGA.
Whoa! is Me
November 29th, 2011
9:55 am
There is no delusion in who I am, what team I pull for, or why I am a card-carrying morphing hater. Now give me a decent answer. What have I said that is delusional ?
CHDawg
November 29th, 2011
9:57 am
Whoa/Honky, the fact that you replied to my message to Honky T. as Whoa is me answers the question.
PT
November 29th, 2011
9:58 am
Look at Alabama’s schedule then look at Georgia’s. If Georgia hasn’t played anyone then, Alabama has only played one team and that’s LSU.
Whoa! is Me
November 29th, 2011
9:59 am
I think the fact that you don’t know what delusion is answers MY question.
PT
November 29th, 2011
10:04 am
If Alabama beats LSU by 3 or less for the national title are they co-champions?
JSillaGA
November 29th, 2011
10:12 am
Good question PT. I’ll answer that one for you: If Bama beats LSU by 3 or less, then yes, LSU will still be the National Champions.
CHDawg
November 29th, 2011
10:14 am
Apparently, I understand the definition better than you do. To delude is to deceive. The Dawg fans are exactly what you see and expect–football fans discussing their favorite team. You, on the other hand, are deluding not only us, but yourself. When I responded to HonkyT, you forgot that we didn’t know you were also Whoa is me, and responded defensively to me, deluding even yourself about the ID you are presenting. Put your IDs (recent ones) in a list, and tell us who you are a fan of or why you care about Georgia football, and I will happily oblige you and pick your views apart for you.
truedawg
November 29th, 2011
10:15 am
Are we really going to let the BCS mess with our system?? No more Bama/ LSU. I say let them play again….NEXT SEASON!!
PT
November 29th, 2011
10:20 am
If I am correct, Alabama played Notre Dame on the final game of the year – lost and was still voted national champion. Why is D1 college football the ONLY league that is so screwed up? Even high school football is fundamentally sound.
RxDawg
November 29th, 2011
10:21 am
Go Dawgs!
November 28th, 2011
4:06 pm
Best post on the subject I’ve seen yet. In fact, I copied and pasted that in an email to share with some friends. You use facts and it’s hard to argue against that. Well done sir (or mam).
Yadayadayada
November 29th, 2011
10:32 am
Why can’t Georgia be National Champions?
It’s not fair!
Remarkable
November 29th, 2011
10:35 am
We do need a play-off system of some sort but not some 16 team tourney. We need something like a 6 team tourney with #1 and #2 getting a pass. There is no way to schedule a long tourney and it’s not fair to the players to force them to play that many more games. Even with a 6 team play-off you are adding 3 more games to the end of a grueling schedule (Not to mention that you have to decide which Bowl games must change their dates). Football isn’t like basketball or baseball. Few players are injured for life in those sports. We have to think about what we are asking for. A four team playoff would be better but look at who would be left out this year.
PT
November 29th, 2011
10:43 am
Remarkable – The eventual winner of a high school state championship plays 15 games. What is your point? Let the conference champions play in a playoff system. Simple!
PT
November 29th, 2011
10:49 am
The ONLY reason a playoff system is not present is because of the politics of MONEY in the BCS system.
Yadayadayada
November 29th, 2011
10:54 am
“Let the conference champions play in a playoff system.”
That would still exclude Georgia – so it wouldn’t be fair.
FL dawg
November 29th, 2011
10:54 am
I don’t care what the ESPN actors say, If Georgia beats LSU, things are going to be alot different in all the polls for the next 2 yrs. Murray’s playing above guys like Stafford, even Timmy T at this point.
Yadayadayada
November 29th, 2011
11:03 am
Oh, I agree. Murray is head & shoulders above Tim Tebow. No question about it.
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
11:03 am
Hey Beano, I know you said Georgia rules Tech and that’s about all. But please, enlighten us as to Les Miles’ record against CMR ..
Adam
November 29th, 2011
11:05 am
Here is a very simple playoff scenario. One easily implimented. Add the cotton or chick filet bowl to the current four BCS games. Let the top ten in the BCS play in those games. Play all those games the same day. After the games are over then pick who plays in the BCS game. You are not adding any more games. Just waiting till a later date to pick the NC game. So simple.
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
11:07 am
@TampaDawg
Let’s discuss it next Sunday.
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
11:08 am
As a Georgia fan for more than 30 years and a big fan of Aaron Murray, I can say with complete honesty that .. he is NOT playing better than Tim Tebow who was one of the top 3 greatest college football players ever.
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
11:09 am
Noooo, the question is, What is Les Miles’ record against CMR NOW, not on Sunday? And I can help you with it if it’s too hard to find, but also, were any of UGA’s wins over LSU considered upsets?
RxDawg
November 29th, 2011
11:11 am
I agree Tampa. I saw that post and choked on my coffee.
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
11:18 am
@TampaDawg
Good luck with that record this weekend. Lord knows you’ll need it!
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
11:22 am
yeah Beano, we’ve heard it all year. But I guess answering the question is a little tough for you. Go back to 2005s SECCG maybe and look at that one and the rankings of the two teams. And rest assured, people before that one gave UGA NO CHANCE either and told us of all the luck we would need. It’s all good. UGA isn’t expected to win so if they don’t, no big deal. If they do, more crow sandwiches for the trolls.
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
11:23 am
@RxDawg, nice, yeah like I said, I am a big Murray fan but let’s keep things in perspective. He was the biggest missing piece of the Gators now. If he were still there, they would still be a winning team.
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
11:23 am
Urban may try to get Tebow to transfer to OSU from Denver.
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
11:25 am
Congrats on that 2005 NC.
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
11:31 am
Its called an SEC title .. good Lord, your worse than a politician at trying to spin things. Or maybe it’s just too hard for you.
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
11:32 am
Just like this year, UGA wasn’t in the running for it in 2005. And thanks to the Dawgs, neither was LSU then.
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
11:41 am
Just like every year, UGA isn’t in the running. Good thing they’re in the East Division, or they wouldn’t be playing in any kind of championship game. LSU could lose this game and Georgia still wouldn’t make the Top 10.
The SECCG has been the most irrelevant game in CFB for the past two years. Maybe next year Missou will make it more relevant?
RPollardRealtor
November 29th, 2011
11:42 am
This is exactly why there needs to be a 16 team playoff!! I love the college football regular season but with crap like this it just makes me not like it anymore!!! The Dawgs are a very young team and lost 2 games, not by blowouts, by highly ranked teams. The BCS proves yearly how much of a joke it really is!!!
UGA Insider
November 29th, 2011
11:50 am
UGA 24
LSU 20
LSU fans have already discounted this game and are not traveling to Atlanta. Saving money for BCSNCG. LSU will play Bama in the game and UGA will play this year’s Hawaii which is Houston in the Sugar. The BCSNCG will be the least viewed of all time I predict. Also, I am shocked as to why UGA can’t move up in the rankings. It’s crazy to me for sure.
Dap01
November 29th, 2011
11:50 am
The biggest need is to not have ANY poll until about mid October. Also, quit having ESPN decide the NC’s before the end of the year.
Why even have a SEC Championship game? We don’t need one unless it is convenient for Saban.
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
11:50 am
@RPollardRealtor
Maybe you’ll feel better after they lose 3. Especially if it’s a blowout. It most likely will be.
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
11:58 am
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
11:41 am
Just like every year, UGA isn’t in the running. Good thing they’re in the East Division, or they wouldn’t be playing in any kind of championship game. LSU could lose this game and Georgia still wouldn’t make the Top 10.
The SECCG has been the most irrelevant game in CFB for the past two years. Maybe next year Missou will make it more relevant?
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Wow, where do I start? First off, if UGA pulls of the upset, you’re high if you don’t think they would crack the top ten. It makes absolutely no sense but keep with it.
Second, since when does the CG from the best conference in the country, the one that has produced the last 6 national champions become “irrelevant”? Could there be a more stupid statement than that?
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
12:08 pm
The best “conference” in the country is the SEC West.
Chuck Dowdle
November 29th, 2011
12:10 pm
Georgia gone get punked by LSU. GA fans will be leaving ga dome 3rd Qtr. Then Ga gets spanked by WISC. Reality arrives when you have to play good opponents. Fantasy is over puppy dogs.
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
12:18 pm
Hey Chuck, check our bowl record before you predict our bowl demise. Last year’s team is one of the exceptions and I am sure you know that since you know so much about our bowl performance right?
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
12:19 pm
Yeah Beano, that’s why two of those last 6 NCs came from the East. Regardless of which side it comes from, the outcome of that game USUALLY plays a huge part in the NC picture.
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
12:25 pm
Yep. From Florida. The lack of production by Tennessee and Florida are the real reasons that the East is down. Georgia was never much of a contender to begin with.
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
12:31 pm
Then you’re saying your life’s entertainment is spent on blogs of teams that are not contenders? Teams that you’re not a fan of and no vested interest in? Pretty sad.
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
12:32 pm
Nah. I’m just goofing off. You guys are hilarious.
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
12:33 pm
Not a funnier fan-base in all of CFB!
TampaDawg
November 29th, 2011
12:39 pm
Yeah there is Beano. Have you seen a Notre Dame blog in the last 10 years? Have you ever seen the OSU blogs (Ohio State that is)? Especially when they get in the running for ANYTHING, they are hysterical.
Nom Nom Nom Chuck's Taylor, or Norris if he is avaliable
November 29th, 2011
1:29 pm
“Nah. I’m just goofing off. You guys are hilarious”
Huh?
Pago Pago Dawg
November 29th, 2011
1:35 pm
We agree, the DAWGS should out loose, have a good time and enjoy the atmosphere.
J.T. Keene
November 29th, 2011
2:18 pm
Right. Bama didn’t win the division because LSU did. Bama and LSU are still the best 2 teams this year. Georgia represents the East, but Georgia didn’t win the “division “either. South Carolina didnt have a loss to a division foe. Georgia lost to South Carolina. Georgia represents the eastern division thanks to Arkansas.
LawDawg
November 29th, 2011
2:21 pm
It sort of boggles the mind that people are complaining about a rematch when that is not unprecedented (FSU/UF in 1996) and before Oregon laid an egg, there was a decent chance of an Oregon-LSU rematch.
It seems to me that the people complaining about a BAMA-LSU rematch are really just borderline football fans who are bored by a well-played defensive battle and would rather see 80 points in the title game. Then again, anyone who thinks the “high-powered offenses” that apparently do not exist in the SEC (like OSU) would put up 40 on LSU are crazy. Even Oregon only managed 27 points and some of that was garbage time. Bottom line: SEC is king.
I hope UGA beats LSU (and would even if I were not a UGA fan) because if a LSU-BAMA is the NC game and NEITHER TEAM is the conference champion, we may finally get the groundswell of support for a playoff system from the administrations at the PAC/BIG – # schools.
who cares
November 29th, 2011
2:42 pm
UGA beaten by 30+ points. I’d give UGA 10 points each half and take LSU all week and twice on Sundays. UGA has no shot. Game over at kick off.
MD
November 29th, 2011
2:54 pm
BCS is around to pit the 2 best teams against each other. Who wants to disagree that LSU & Bama aren’t the 2 best teams?
dawgfacedboy
November 29th, 2011
2:58 pm
LEt’s not forget the “you can’t penalize BOise and Houston for the schedule they play” eventhough that is what is happening to UGA right now.
Beano Cook
November 29th, 2011
3:09 pm
Change of heart, GO DAWGS.
who cares
November 29th, 2011
3:09 pm
I think I now care.
who cares
November 29th, 2011
3:11 pm
Sharing is caring so I think we should share the national Championship like GT did with UC in 1990
who cares
November 29th, 2011
3:14 pm
original who cares #2. The only national championship UGA has a shot at is womens gymnastics. There can only be one Mr. Wrestling #1 and only one who cares. go be original.
Adam
November 29th, 2011
3:40 pm
Who cares not since Yoculan retired. They suck now.
Preston
November 29th, 2011
4:17 pm
Mark May is a pathetic, biased, anti-SEC analyst. He should NOT be employed as such.
Still@theKool-aidBAR
November 29th, 2011
4:18 pm
Yoculan is nasty. She is dating/living with a married man. That is just NASTY. I guess Adam’s morals can be bought. He loves to take Leebern’s millions and know he is married but shacking up with Yoculan.
bitter dawgie style
November 29th, 2011
4:28 pm
beating LSU will be easyer than removing those red panties from a freshman co-ed——hahahahah
————————41-10——murrry throws pick 6 to give LSU a TD——–GO dawgs@co-ed’s
Still@theKool-aidBAR
November 29th, 2011
4:42 pm
Beating LSU will be harder than you think then because Freshmen coeds don’t wear panties.
bitter dawgie style
November 29th, 2011
5:09 pm
@the bar—–cheers ——–freshman —no panties—–right——stand corrected
The Ole Ball Coach
November 29th, 2011
5:44 pm
Ole Lady luck was with us tonight, Ole Lady luck just saved our whatcha_mu_callits. My gawd we hunkered down look at the sugar falling from the sky, look at the sugar……….
RIP Larry
gtfanfrom1951
November 29th, 2011
6:29 pm
NO SUGAR, NO Chance, NO Class = UGA
FAN
November 29th, 2011
6:32 pm
This old news because we’re about to play LSU but when Tech Fans say “what’s the good word” we dawg fans say “WE OWN YOUR AZZ”
Look at the Sugar…
November 29th, 2011
8:36 pm
That ain’t sugar. That’s snowflake crack fallin’ down on Athens!
Watch out! It’s landing in the Kool-Aid!
bsinnott41
November 29th, 2011
9:00 pm
This is an idiotic post. Georgia’s chance of beating LSU approaches zero.
big kracker dawg
November 29th, 2011
9:04 pm
well crap…. edited my post….again… used no bed words… oh yea… Crowell is probably thinking of a way to get hurt before sat… he just doesnt have that fight in him like a #1 back in the nation should have… he is a poser!!!!!! Crowell is scared and Honey badger is proud of it… hope someone hits him and lays him out…..Honey badger that is…
WestOfAthens
November 29th, 2011
9:07 pm
Beware of common sense big kracker, i think ESPN has infiltrated this blog
big kracker dawg
November 29th, 2011
9:10 pm
Look at the sugar…. yea u… listen up Techie boy… ur team sucks!!! so does ur coach… ur stadium needs to be smaller so can sell a game out… So take ur comment and and stick it up ur a-hole… Leave Larry Munson out of it… Its a red and black thing… u want understand…
Sugar...
November 29th, 2011
9:20 pm
Oh, Honey Honey.
WestOfAthens
November 29th, 2011
9:24 pm
I see what you mean big kracker dawg….
Have posted yet nothing is revealed, wow, the conspiracy grows deep, and is not only named “BCS”
BCS Illuminati
November 29th, 2011
9:53 pm
no evil live on
BC$ Slave
November 29th, 2011
11:24 pm
In 2007 the ESPN talking heads and the poll voters gave us the prevailing wisdom for ignoring UGA for consideration for the mythical NC. They didn’t win their conference.
Today the prevailing wisdom is that UGA is not even worthy of a top ten place in the BCS even if they win the SECCG.
The prevailing wisdom each year is about nothing but matchups and money.
Get this people: the MNC is meaningless.
It is not really about the two best teams competing for a championship.
It’s a beauty contest.
We need a playoff.
BC$ Slave
November 29th, 2011
11:31 pm
The only games that should be relevant to a national championship game are the conference championships.
They are at least based on competition and not the subjective and biased votes of media and coaches.
E$PN would crap if we had no more polls for them to use to hype up their games.
We need a playoff.
BBQ MAN
November 30th, 2011
1:08 am
NC is and should be between the 2 best teams in the country. regardless of conference standings. Period! just because uga WAS GYPED IN 07 DOESN’T MEAN WE SHOULD DO IT TO BAMA THIS YEAR. DON’T BE HYPOCRITS GAWG fans
birddawgbill
November 30th, 2011
3:26 am
As a Dawg fan I will say LSU probably wins. But I’m sorry Dawg haters it wont be a blowout. This stuff about a weak schedule is crazy. The SEC is down on both sides this year when you get past the top two teams. Arkansas’ signature wins were against an overrated Taxas A&M team and SC missing Lattimore. if he’s healthy Ark doesnt win. While with him they may have beat UGA but they were totally dominated. A win is a win but a pick 6 a FR for a TD a fake punt for a TD and a five yd drive. SC was very lucky. No excuses for Boise St. Ala cant say anything about schedule all they played was LSU. The only team in the country that can say anything about schedules is LSU. I give them all the credit in the world they won early with suspensions. But give UGA some credit too. They’ve had injuries and suspensions and won 10 in a row. Looking forward to a great game. As far as the NCG if Ok.St. blows out Oklahoma they should have their shot. Bama had theirs and blew it. But only if Oklahoma St. wins by double figures.
BCS Illuminati
November 30th, 2011
6:24 am
We are biased against Georgia because of all of the games that they lose. We understand that you guys want a trophy anyway, but we have rules. Win your games first – then call us. And no… It doesn’t count when you woulda, shoulda, coulda won. You have to actually win on the scoreboard. Concessions from the opposing team’s coach that you played a good game does not count as a “win”.
DelServDawg
November 30th, 2011
12:20 pm
All of this crap about the BCS could be solved with a legitimate Division 1A (FBS) play-off system. Hey guys, it ain’t rocket science. I sat down and within twenty minutes designed a single elimination play-off bracket, based on the 12 conferences in Division 1A (FBS), that would decide a real national champion within the timeframe of the current BCS. I would pair all of the Division 1A (FBS) champions (decided on or before Dec. 3) on Dec. 10, play the winners of those games on Dec. 17, break for the week of Christmas, pair the winners of the games on Dec. 17 on Dec 31, and play the national championship game on January 7. The top bowls could be worked into this scheme if they wanted, and the lesser bowls could pair teams that were bowl qualified (6 wins or better) but not conference champions.
I say that such a system would generate enormous excitement (and revenue) across the country and select a REAL national champion regardless of conference strength, strength of schedule, or anything else. It would also take the influence of the “talking heads” completely out of the picture. Now, I’m not blaming the sports journalists, they’re just working with what they’ve been handed. However, having their opinions decide the national champion is just wrong. If their opinions were always right, there would be no reason to play the games. They could just review each team’s make-up at the beginning of the season and award a national championship based on their votes.
Some believe a play-off can’t be done and these people usually cite a bunch of reasons ultimately related to their losing money. I would argue that since practically every other organized sport in existence has some logical system for deciding a champion on the field of play, that Division 1A (FBS) could too. All that is needed is the guts to break the stupid system we now have and do what is fair for the men and coaches who play the game and for those of us who support and watch them.
It appears that the only way a change will be made is for everything to get so screwed-up that everyone gets outraged. I am a Georgia Bulldog and want to see my team win the SEC championship. However, I also want them to win just to add more turmoil to the mix in deciding the national champion. I hope OK State blows-out OK for the same reason. It’s only through a total collapse of the BCS system that there will ever be any chance of a play-off being considered.
big d dawg
November 30th, 2011
3:56 pm
Here’s the BCS rule for having 3 teams from the same conference
No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, UNLESS TWO NON-CHAMPIONS from the same conference are ranked No. 1 (AL) and No. 2 (LSU) in the final BCS Standings
BC$ Slave
November 30th, 2011
6:13 pm
DelServDawg:
I have to agree with you–the BCS must collaspe before we’ll have a playoff.
But I don’t think the media or the college presidents will ever let it happen.
There’s too much money in it.
The only thing that will eventually work is if we stop supporting the bowls. The fans will have to make it clear we don’t take the MNC seriously.
rickithebear
December 1st, 2011
5:32 pm
If Dawgs Win Against LSU. Georgia, LSU, and Alabama will all be 1 loss in the SEC and only Georgia will be conference Champion. So it goes to say that Boise who beat SEC’s best and Is 100% against SEC should be in the national Championship or does beating the SEC mean nothing nationally.