BCS quirks mean Georgia has more to gain with SEC win

sec championship logoThis is the time of year when following the BCS is sort of like watching an accident in the making — you know you don’t want to see it happen, but you can’t quite force yourself to look away.

And this year even the so-called truisms that frequently have been applied to the process don’t seem to be holding up.

I keep reading in the national sports press that LSU and Alabama, currently ranked No. 1 and No. 2 with one more week to go, probably will meet in the BCS championship game no matter what, despite already having played each other. The consensus seems to be that LSU will make it to the game even if they lose to Georgia in the SEC championship because of their record, which includes wins over three teams that were ranked in the top three of the coaches poll at the time they played: Oregon, Alabama and Arkansas.

Meanwhile, Alabama, which didn’t even win its own division in the SEC, appears unlikely to be dislodged by No. 3 Oklahoma State, No. 4 Stanford or No. 5 Virginia Tech, even if Okie State decimates Oklahoma in its finale or the Hokies do the same to Clemson in the ACC championship.

So much for the reasoning used against Georgia in 2007 when the inactive Dogs were jumped in the BCS standings the last week, despite being the hottest team in the country. At the time, the Dogs not winning their own division was chiefly cited by ESPN’s talking heads as the reason.

Likewise, the old saw that if you’re going to lose a big game, it’s best to do it early in the season apparently has been thrown out the window in the case of the 2011 Dogs, who have reeled off 10 straight wins since opening 0-2 against highly ranked opponents, and yet who seem unlikely to crack the BCS Top 10 even if they win the SEC championship. Having just dominated a ranked Georgia Tech, Georgia proceeded to drop one spot in the latest BCS standings!

Guess that also means the SEC champion is no longer a lock for the BCS title game, as has often been proclaimed in recent years.

So LSU basically has nothing much to gain by beating Georgia in the SEC title match other than preserving its unbeaten record. The Dogs, on the other hand, can secure a BCS bowl (the Sugar) with a win.

I’m not suggesting that the Tigers will be looking past Georgia to the BCS, because LSU by all evidence is a team that shows up ready to play every week.

But it’s clear which team has the most to gain with a win in the Georgia Dome.

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just saying

November 28th, 2011
11:29 am

Dawgs should be first……not me

SBC Pastor

November 28th, 2011
11:29 am

SBC Pastor

November 28th, 2011
11:29 am

Decatur Dawg

November 28th, 2011
11:32 am

You should know better Bill…LSU will not be looking ahead and has plenty to gain: an SEC CHAMPIONSHIP, which means more than the mythical national championship

Dr. Morpheus

November 28th, 2011
11:36 am

OMG- I just acquired two tickets to the game at face value! It will be tough but I like the Dawgs chances. LSU has already proven themselves and now they know they can lose and still get into the BCS title game. Is the perfect storm brewing out there? Go, Dawgs! GATA!

drbasic

November 28th, 2011
11:37 am

Just beat those cheese ball hooligans from the bayou…….would thought that might have screwed the BCS but alas the gods of ESPN have spoken (Crudstreet. Lou Hoser, Mark May not have a brain) Why has no one mentioned those clowns would not put Ga in the game in 2007 due to not winning SECCG let alone their division……but hmmm nothing said this year about it…liars

Auburn Jacket

November 28th, 2011
11:38 am

The BCS Championship game should be played by two teams that win their conference. Period. As has been stated, Bama didn’t even win their division, so they should not be playing for the National Championship. Another reason why we need a playoff.

Gary

November 28th, 2011
11:39 am

My prediction is that an LSU-Alabama rematch for the bcs nc will be the least watched bcs game in history. Fans don’t like rematches, especially from the same conference. SEC fans will watch, everyone else will be disgusted once again at the process. Dawgs need to make a statement in the SEC championship game that they play great football in the SEC east as well. Go Dawgs.

JaxDawg05

November 28th, 2011
11:41 am

I’ll take the SEC Championship, those are won on the field not in a computer.

BMDPD

November 28th, 2011
11:44 am

It is not like the first LSU/Bama game was exciting. Heck, the second one will put us to sleep. Good for the SEC, but bad for CFB. Another team needs to play LSU, not Bama.

Bjohndawg

November 28th, 2011
11:45 am

Cannot win your division
should be end of it

Reggie Ball

November 28th, 2011
11:45 am

I miss Chan Gailey, CAN ANYONE GET ME A JOB!!!!

dawgjohn

November 28th, 2011
11:46 am

Bubba Gump big lips

November 28th, 2011
11:46 am

Alabama will prob win the second matchup.

Andy

November 28th, 2011
11:46 am

If, by some small miracle, UGA does beat LSU, I hope someone plays video of the 2007 Les Miles saying things like “if you don’t win your conference, you shouldn’t get to play in the national title game” and see what Miles has to say about that now. Just goes to show you that people don’t really want a playoff–because the conference championship game is (or should be) exactly that.

dawgjohn

November 28th, 2011
11:48 am

Hey, say what you want but I believe our Dawgs will be playing a team with a lot of pride. They know what we did to them in 05 when thery were 3 and we were 13. Our QB is better …..Our defense is strong…..I think it will be a war. Dawgs by 3. Bama by 10 on the rematch! They are the two best teams in the country. I am just very proud of our Dawgs not matter what happens. Play tough boys………be the Nike kids……..Just Do It!!

No Sugar in The Sky

November 28th, 2011
11:48 am

Dawgs get bounced to reality when LSU thumps Blair Walsh 48 – 12….

tell me again

November 28th, 2011
11:50 am

It’s all about the moo lah , boys. Somebody is getting their pockets lined if we beat LSU and they still go to the BCS championship game. And every bank account in Alabama has been emptied if Bama is the team they play. All of the logic they stuffed down our throats when we were in the exact same position all of a sudden doesn’t apply. How much hypocrisy can we take?

sogadog

November 28th, 2011
11:51 am

Mr. King,

Enjoyed your last post re: Paul Johnson.

I could not believe how negative ESPN has been towards UGA and the Dawgs. I wanted to throw my beer at the TV listening to their announcer during the Tech game first talk about how Georgia should lose the game then go on and on about how Georgia had an easy schedule.

This is a serious question: Have any of the coaches, players or administration with the UGAAA done something to turn ESPN against the program? ( I frankly dont care what ESPN thinks but it does affect pollsters who in turn affect Georgia’s rankings, bowl prospects and ultimately revenue.)

Clembo

November 28th, 2011
11:53 am

Fred

November 28th, 2011
11:56 am

Wow I can’t even begin to imagine what word I used that caused the auto snagger to eat my post……….

schmeckdawg

November 28th, 2011
12:00 pm

Dropped from 13th to 14th! Shocker. Even when we had Herschel we got no respect! The year after the National Championship, we were preseason #11 (believe). Then after the 1981 season I think that we were preseason #15 (again I believe, Bill can you confirm).

Vinny Ocean

November 28th, 2011
12:00 pm

Mark Richt hasn’t won a big game since ‘07 when we beat Auburn. I’m glad we’re in the sec ’ship right now, but we’re lucky b/c we lost to the two best teams we played all season. It’s time we see a Mark Richt team win a game that nobody thinks they can win. It’s been too long since it’s happened, now is as good of a time as any to do it Coach Richt!

KJ

November 28th, 2011
12:01 pm

The ESPN bashing of UGA has gotten so bad that LOU HOLTZ was defending them yesterday. Think about that for a minute.

Clay

November 28th, 2011
12:04 pm

Bill is exactly right about one thing: it is crazy that UGA beat a ranked Tech team and dropped in the polls. I’m tired of UGA still being punished for a 3 point loss back in September. 10 wins and a SEC East crown mean nothing in any of the polls and it’s just dumb.

UGA has been written off this week against LSU and that’s just the way I like it. I’m looking forward to the game.

Muprhy

November 28th, 2011
12:07 pm

Make no mistake LSU will show up ready to win.I can assure you that SEC Championship ring is wanted by the Tigers.

Murphy

November 28th, 2011
12:08 pm

This is the game that can put UGA back on the map in the National picture for next year.This is the biggest game of the Richt era I do believe.

Murphy

November 28th, 2011
12:10 pm

I still believe BAMA is the best team in the country.I for one want to see the rematch.Bama will put it on LSU the second time around.

My View

November 28th, 2011
12:11 pm

Bill. I’m glad you made the point about the 07 dawgs being left out of the title game because they “did not win the SEC”. I remember everyone from Mark May (uga hater) to Sly Croom saying that the SEC championship “had to mean something”. Now people want to talk about “eye tests”. What happened to the people calling the college football season a defacto playoff. That December night in ‘07 was a nightmare for dawgfans like myself who saw everything work out perfectly putting us in the BCS championship only to have it snatched away by rules that never existed. CMR was even on ESPN stating as much that very night which got him a lot of kudos from me. And this just drives the knife home deeper if UGA beats LSU, then watches LSU play an SEC team that did not make the SECCG play LSU for a MNC. I really wish I could make my self boycott college football until they fix the system, cuz its broke. Nothing but subjective.

John

November 28th, 2011
12:18 pm

If UGA does end up winning the SEC Championship, people are saying UGA won’t be in the Sugar Bowl because the BCS can’t except three teams out of the same conference? Is this true? If it is, it’s complete BS to keep UGA out of the Sugar Bowl! They would be the conference champs! So UGA would get punished for WINNING???

RiffRaff

November 28th, 2011
12:20 pm

I just want the Dawgs to beat LSU. Not too concerned about the NCG. By this time next year Urban Meyer will be in the NCG just because ESPN likes his hair.

bremen dawg

November 28th, 2011
12:24 pm

Not sure what the voters are thinking, we should have at least cracked the top ten. I can’t stand ESPN, at least back what you said in 2007, don’t change you stance on it now. Media still dictates who goes to the nc game and that is why the BCS system is broke.

Bill King

November 28th, 2011
12:25 pm

John,

If Georgia wins the SEC, they will go to the Sugar. The BCS rules allow an exception with three teams coming from the SEC in cases like that.

Top Row Dawg

November 28th, 2011
12:26 pm

Been a good ride this year no matter. Would be special to get 13th SEC title and 5th Sugar Bowl win though.

bart

November 28th, 2011
12:26 pm

If ever we needed another reason for a playoff system this is it. The national championship game is set even before the league championship games are played – are you freaking joking! The bowl games have been diluted to meaningless trivia.

Dave

November 28th, 2011
12:27 pm

I watched LSU this past weekend and the thing that stood out was just the overall SPEED of both defensive and offensive players. Trying to run wide on LSU is just a guaranteed yardage loss because they get there so fast. IGA will just have to be as slick a WD40 in the SECCG to stay close and maybe steal it at the end. Pressure both LSU QB’s and hope for turnovers. UGA has nothing to lose and we should play like it.

I have nothing to say about the LSU-AL Champiosnip game, because it’s already a done deal. But I WOULD like to say that neither one won the SEC, but BOTH Championship participants were from the SEC. How’s THAT for just dominating college football? I’ll take the SEC crown and laaauuuuugh….

Real playoffs are needed in the worse way. This whole fiasco might just blow the BCS to smithereens. I mean, how can you logically rationalize the two finalists if neither won their conference? But they will think of something. Bet on it.

McDawg

November 28th, 2011
12:30 pm

i think Va Tech (who i predicted would play in the BCS game at the beginning of the year) has a good arguement (not that impressed w/ Stanford)

if we win the SEC we go to the Sugar Bowl

Murphy

November 28th, 2011
12:32 pm

Another sad piece of the BCS puzzel is the 7-4 Big East Champion taking away a BCS game from Arkansas.Thats approx a 5-7 million dollar swing.

McDawg

November 28th, 2011
12:33 pm

Murray is going to have to do alot of rolling out-alot of misdirections

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Dawg_Mike

November 28th, 2011
12:35 pm

Death to the BCS

Dr. Lovelace

November 28th, 2011
12:41 pm

UGa’s oompa loompa midget QB better do a good job of hiding behing that big offensive line or its gonna be a long night against LSU. 45 – 6….. go Blair Walsh!

Durrty Dogg

November 28th, 2011
12:41 pm

I will say this one more time. ESPN does not like Georgia. Its articles like this that prove my point over and over again. For some reason, ESPN has it out for all of our teams. The majority of their “experts” have felt the wrath by one of our teams during the short, pathetic playing careers (Mark Punk May) and they hold grudges. Its amazing how much pull ESPN has. They have become one of the reasons that athletics have become the way they are. They will make or break you. The sad part is most of us know how they treat our teams and yet we still watch. Not I. I watch CSS and Fox. Even David Pollack sounds like a dog hater at times just to fit in.

piermontdawgny

November 28th, 2011
12:44 pm

dawgs win 42-31

TallaDawg

November 28th, 2011
12:47 pm

Gary @ 11:39 “Fans don’t like rematches, especially from the same conference. SEC fans will watch, everyone else will be disgusted once again at the process.”

I will not watch, and probably more SEC fans than ESPN thinks might also skip it.

I generally have supported the “poll and bowl” BCS formula, but if this comes to pass it may be the quickest route to a play-off, which will be very imperfect.

Murphy

November 28th, 2011
12:48 pm

Is it just me but does Dr.Lou have all the college ESPN announcers using the word Tremendous to describe anything thing of importance in a telecast.Wish I had a dollar for everytime that word was used on ESPN now.

Restore UGA

November 28th, 2011
12:50 pm

The NCAA needs a 16 team play-off.

This BCS stuff is stupid and for “educated” people to keep making excuses for it and to keep it in place, forces me to question these “intellects” intelligence.

Sam

November 28th, 2011
12:56 pm

Quote: The BCS Championship game should be played by two teams that win their conference. Period. As has been stated, Bama didn’t even win their division, so they should not be playing for the National Championship. Another reason why we need a playoff. End Quote

What makes you think the same thing would not happen with a playoff? Does your playoff only take conference champs? If so, a Big East or C-USA team would be in over Alabama. I am not a playoff fan at all BTW. In fact, I kinda like the old days before the BCS although I do think matching the #1 and #2 is good, just not necessarily how those teams are decided. (I would like to see a panel select the teams–no media, no current coaches or ADs).

robodawg

November 28th, 2011
12:56 pm

More things to blame on ESPN (besides trying to take “mythical” out of national championship with its BCS crap):

1) The Longhorn Network
2) Breaking up the Big 12
3) A&M and Mizzou joining the SEC

AltamahaDawg

November 28th, 2011
1:00 pm

Actually Lou Holtz has been pretty supportive of Georgia this year, and points out their chances in this game, and has shown his admiration for Richt several times over the years. Mark May is a cast member in a “show”. He has a role to play. Not liking Georgia in this case is that. I think he is supposed to be some kind of anti-feel good police. Georgia in another situation would get some other scripted responce from him. But it does appear he is not generally a fan.