Fan talk: How would late-season Dawgs match up with Boise State?

The Dogs looked bad in those awful uniforms and played even worse when they met Boise State. How would they do now? (Brand Sanderlin / AJC)

The Dogs looked bad in those awful uniforms and played even worse when they met Boise State. How would they do now? (Brand Sanderlin / AJC)

As we gear up for the renewal of the Deep South’s Oldest Rivalry, it’s time to answer some Junkyard Mail. …

Clark Colwell writes: Bill, I know it doesn’t mean much now, but I can’t help but wonder. If UGA played Boise State now instead of at the beginning of the season what kind of game do you think we would see? The defense is without question much better now. Team confidence is much higher. [Aaron] Murray and the offense are playing better. What do you think?

Georgia clearly played its worst game against the Broncos at the Georgia Dome to open the season and is a much better team now than it was then. Boise’s a really good team and clearly is still the best the Dogs have faced this season. But I think if they met now, it would be a much closer game. Vince Dooley said the other day that “if we played Boise State four times … maybe we’ll beat them once.” I think the odds might be a bit better than that. I’d take Georgia in an upset if they played now. Especially if the Dogs weren’t dressed like Power Rangers.

Chad Moon writes: Hello Bill, love your blog. I was born and raised a Bulldawg fan living just outside of Athens in Winterville. Oglethorpe County Class of ’92. But I now call Shreveport, Louisiana, home. My question to you is this … how crazy of a notion would it be for CMR to be named the SEC Coach of the Year? Saban, Miles, and that team quitter coach in Arkansas were all “supposed” to have good if not great teams this year anyway, right? After starting 0-2 everyone outside of the Bulldawg Nation had written off the Dawgs; but here they are at 7-2, (6-1) seven straight victories later. Granted, the teams they have beaten don’t have the most impressive records and Georgia hasn’t had to play the big three from the West Division, but you can only play the teams that fall into your schedule, right? I stand on my soap box now and declare IF Georgia wins the East division and goes to Atlanta that CMR should win the SEC Coach of the Year Award. What are your thoughts?

ESPN.com’s Chris Low doesn’t think it’s such a crazy idea. In his latest SEC superlatives tracker, he lists potential SEC coach of the year candidates as: 1. Les Miles, LSU. 2. Mark Richt, Georgia. 3. James Franklin, Vanderbilt. Assuming LSU wins out, I think Miles is probably a lock, even if Georgia wins the East. But if the Dogs were somehow to win the conference championship, I believe Richt would be the likely winner of coach of the year honors for his team’s remarkable turnaround from an 0-2 start. And he would deserve it.

Lucas Golub writes: Hey Bill, any chance there’s a fan Blackout of the Auburn game? I hate it when the team messes around with the uniform colors, but I love the visual of the whole stadium in black as well as the symbolism of solidarity and support for the team. This would be the perfect way to show the nation that Richt’s seat isn’t nearly as hot as the media has tried to make it all year and that the Bulldawg Nation is behind this team 100%.

Richt hasn’t called for a Blackout and I don’t think he’s likely to at this late stage. And so far I haven’t seen any fan momentum for one, either. While I like the black jerseys on the players, I think the whole Blackout thing involving the crowd was overdone. Georgia fans just getting there early and staying loud for the whole game is what Richt and the team need from us Saturday.

Hal Welch writes: Bill, just finished reading the mail blog again. In particular the part on [Isaiah] Crowell. A couple things people need to know and keep in mind when questioning his conditioning/toughness, etc. were the injury last year and the badly bruised rib in the Carolina game that the staff worried might even be cracked initially. He played the next week with the bad ribs, gathering some toughness votes from me. But beyond that, if you’ve never had a bruised/cracked rib what you need to know is that you just about cannot breathe, certainly can’t get a deep breath without extreme pain, so he probably did suffer some conditioning fallback there. In addition to that, the new high speed offense (which we begged for since David Greene left) is rattling off nearly 20 more plays a game than before. Crowell could carry the ball 25-30 times a game, which is a workhorse’s load, and still be off the field for 50+ plays. Give the kid a break (not you, other fans). Let’s let him get a full season under his belt. At one point a couple weeks back he was actually on a higher pace thru 6 games than [Marcus] Lattimore was in his freshman year according to another reporter I follow. Let’s not run him off and sour him before he turns 19, OK. GO DAWGS!

I agree that it’s way too early to be judging Crowell on anything other than his obvious lack of maturity. And you’re right about the nagging injuries holding him back. Let’s let him finish his first season before drawing any conclusions. And I still feel a whole lot better about Georgia’s offensive chances when he’s on the field!

Sands Orris writes: Why did [Mike] Bobo not start [Brandon] Harton at tailback the first series [against New Mexico State]? The kid works hard all season and finally gets his chance to start and they put [Branden] Smith back there. Just not cool!

I’m not sure why Smith started at tailback over Harton, but I think it likely was because he’s more experienced, even as a part-time offensive player. Bobo didn’t wait too long to give Harton the ball and didn’t hesitate to come back to him even after he fumbled on his first carry (which was still a terrific, extra-effort run). So I don’t think it was a knock on Harton that Smith started.

Steve Segrest writes: Hi Bill, could you write about our D.E.’s, they appear to be having very good seasons — but they rarely get any press compared to N.G.’s, LB’s, and secondary. Are they pro football material?

While the linebackers and defensive backs lead the Dogs in tackles made so far this season, the defensive ends have both been solid. Abry Jones is seventh on team with 15 solo tackles, 13 assists and four tackles for loss (sixth on team in that category). I don’t really follow NFL scouting, but I know some observers think he has pro potential. The other DE, DeAngelo Tyson, is 10th on the team with 11 tackles and nine assists (3.5 tackles for loss, good for eighth on team). I’ve seen him on some NFL watch lists as a player who could compete for a backup tackle job in the pros. Combined with John Jenkins and Kwame Geathers at nose guard, Jones and Tyson have given the Dogs a much improved defensive front this season, particularly against the run. It would be nice to see them create a bit more pressure on the quarterback, though.

Jeff Walker writes: What ever happened to Ken Malcome as far as talent? Last year Coach Richt said there were times he wished he had put him in, and pulled his redshirt. Now we hear about him in all this trouble with the other backs. I was just wondering was he out because of an injury or just didn’t produce this past off season?

Malcome is a bit of a mystery. He was plagued by nagging injuries but even when he has been healthy he obviously hasn’t impressed the coaching staff and was passed on the depth chart by Harton. The abortive departure from the team and now the recent suspension certainly haven’t improved his standing. You’ve got to wonder if he might not consider transferring after this season.

Sonya Graham writes: Can you tell me the best spot to tailgate?

It depends on whether you’re willing to haul your tailgating gear onto campus or prefer to eat near where you park. If it’s the latter, any of the church or school lots selling game day parking near campus are a good bet. But if you want to be actually on campus, the choicest spots are along Lumpkin Street and in the Meyers quadrangle, which has become ground zero for tailgating since the restrictions on North Campus drove most tailgaters out of that former hot spot.

Billy Johnson writes: Hi Bill. A few years ago I remember reading somewhere about expansion thoughts at Sanford Stadium. I know they mentioned not wanting to block the bridge in any expansion plans. I think they had talked about drawing up a plan to leave a gap for the bridge to still be visible, but closing in that end by building above that and having kind of a cut-out for the bridge. Have you heard anything else about any of this? I know we lose a lot of crowd noise (which we really need at home games) by having that end of the stadium open. I think AD Greg McGarity has noticed some issues with our lack of noise by tinkering with the band and student sections.

Actually, the long-range seating expansion plans unveiled in 2008 were for the east end of the stadium, not the bridge end, though I know someone did draw up a mock-up for an expansion that would allow a “window” into the stadium at the bridge end. Problem is, it would ruin the view out of the stadium, which UGA officials have indicated they’d like to preserve. So apparently if and when they get around to it, they’ll add more suites and upper level seating on the east side. The proposed addition would bring the stadium’s capacity to 101,766. No word on when they might get to this plan.

John from Cairo writes: We have the best look in football, but I’d wear white pants with red jerseys and red pants with white jerseys (Herschel in Tennessee). Can the silver britches.

Wash out your mouth! Got to disagree with you about the silver britches, though I wouldn’t mind the occasional revival of the red pants for road games. (They still look good in those clips of Herschel Walker wearing them as he plows over Bill Bates!)

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AltamahaDawg

November 10th, 2011
2:03 pm

Did Auburn lose those 16 starters after this summer, when you were saying we would probably lose to them, along with Florida?

Eric C.

November 10th, 2011
2:03 pm

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville, the UF rivalry aside, I’d say it is exciting to know the Dawgs are competing for the east every year.

Call me a Kool Aid drinker

November 10th, 2011
2:04 pm

UGA very young and talented team and looking foward to 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VincetheGreat

November 10th, 2011
2:05 pm

UGA loses to all ranekd team with Murray, doesn’t matter if it’s Boise or SC or anyone, anytime or anywhere. The kid is 0-8 vs. ranked teams, so NO, it doesn’t matter end middle or begginning of season, anytime Murray faces a ranekd team, Murray loses.

AltamahaDawg

November 10th, 2011
2:08 pm

The big difference:

I disagree with stuff you and other actually say, and offer my counter.

You make up exagerations, attribute them to others, and then tell them what idiots they are because you saying they think that.

LHarding Dawg

November 10th, 2011
2:08 pm

I’m not sure why Bill is even writing about Georgia vs. Boise. Right now, who cares! This is Auburn week. Should’nt he be writing about Auburn on the Thursday before the game. Unbelievable!!!

Jborodawg

November 10th, 2011
2:10 pm

The Boise and S.C. games are water under the bridge. I suppose it’s fun to speculate; but that’s all it is. Serves no other purpose when it’s time to GATA against Awbun.

Yes, IF we were to win the SEC, coach Richt should definitely win C. of the Year. Big IF. Come to think of it, if we were to win out and lose in the SEC CG, he should still be considered just because we started 0-2 and finished so well. So many IFs involved.

Yes, not much of chance for a ‘fan blackout’. I’d much prefer the traditional sea of red.

Speaking of tradition, heck no! to red britches. Either white or silver, always. Never black nor red!

RE: Crowell. Yes, he had the ribs thing; then he had the blow to the wrist thing. That was a ‘ball security’ issue also; and it lingered for a game or two. Then he had the suspension. Speculation about Crowell’s physical fitness or toughness was and is uncalled for, and just speculation and negativity. Couldn’t agree with you more, Bill, when you wrote, “…And you’re right about the nagging injuries holding him back. Let’s let him finish his first season before drawing any conclusions. And I still feel a whole lot better about Georgia’s offensive chances when he’s on the field!…” And, yes, B. Smith got the first play just for his experience and the fact that he can (did) make big plays. Harton got the call soon thereafter. Harton’s excellent play does not make him a starter when the starter returns from injury nor suspension.

Only the coaches know what’s up with K. Malcome. If he were tearing it up during practice, I betcha he’d be out there.

Yall do know that Awbun has improved also over the last few games. AND they had the bye week to get ready. The oldest rivalry in the Deep South should be a great, tough-fought game.

Go Dawgs! GATA!

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

November 10th, 2011
2:13 pm

AltamahaDawg

Get your facts straight

I said earlier this summer that UGA should go 11-1 due to their schedule

but most likely I expected as usual under Richt and Bobo would probably lose 4 games Auburn POSSIBLY one of them; They lost 2 so far and the season isnt over yet and they barely got by Vandy and FL by the way

richmondDawg

November 10th, 2011
2:14 pm

My understanding is that every home and home in the conference which was supposed to start next year will be delayed to accommodate the new teams, so nobody is ducking anybody…No other way to get a full SEC slate for the new guys otherwise….My bet is on Malcome announcing a transfer in January, especially if we get the RB recruits we are in the hunt for…

Lowcountry Bulldawg

November 10th, 2011
2:15 pm

Flat Tire–

Look, I do not even know what to say. Your fandom of this University is apparently different than mine. So be it. From now on just ignore what I blog about and I will respond in kind. Outside of that man I suggest you seek professional help.

McDawg

November 10th, 2011
2:15 pm

wheel routes wheel routes wheel routes

last year’s game would not have been close (as it was for 3 quarters) had their RBs not dropped those wide open passes in the first half

Jborodawg

November 10th, 2011
2:15 pm

DawginLex @ Nov 10th, 11:06 am …. good one!!

Please, come up with one for Thomas Brown; EG, you’re a 1.) KoolAid Drinker or 2.) Disneydawg.

bucket

November 10th, 2011
2:16 pm

The critiques of Murray up to this point are a little unfair. There is no doubt that Murray had an awful game against USC in the second game of the year. But Murray’s best rb and two best receivers are true freshman! Plus our Oline hasn’t been great the last two years. Last year was Murray’s first year and was a historically bad year by UGA’s standards. Let’s see how the last 3 games play out, plus hopefully the SEC Championship Game before we bury a Sophomore.

McDawg

November 10th, 2011
2:17 pm

congrats to Boise but i could care less at this point –we have at least 4 games left possibly 5 and could have a mediocre season or something special

play on

Pat

November 10th, 2011
2:17 pm

Another stupid article.

AltamahaDawg

November 10th, 2011
2:18 pm

RRRRight. i forgot. “They SHOULD go 11-1 and no excuse for losing any more, and if they do I can tell you all how sorry that is” was definetely your fair and honest prediction this summer. Followed by weeks and weeks telling us how and why that aint gonna happen. Stole that trick from your buddy Boweevil, good job

flagboy?

November 10th, 2011
2:19 pm

I’d like to see us match up with Boise again. I think Boise would probably still win based on what happened in the first game, but it would be interesting to see how far the Offense has come since the first game. I didn’t think we played awful on defense that game. . . held them down for a while but too many 3-and-outs on the other side of the ball didn’t help them.

Typical Georgia

November 10th, 2011
2:29 pm

Ifs, buts, candy, and nuts. You should have just asked,” If Hershal were still RB for the Dogs would they be undefeated?”. Doesn’t matter, they lost. Move on.

NoDawgInHunt

November 10th, 2011
2:31 pm

Uh, in a word…NO! Sure, Georgia has improved somewhat since then, primarily defensively. But then again, they’ve benefited mightily from their schedule and remain an average overall team at best. 7-2 record a bit of a mirage this year, and ranking is WAY out of whack.

Lake Dawg

November 10th, 2011
2:32 pm

The Dawgs don’t wear silver britches — they wear gray britches. The pre-Dooley Dawgs wore sho-nuff silver britches.

Keep it Simple

November 10th, 2011
2:40 pm

UGA has only beaten Florida, Auburn and Tech 8 times in 100 years … what are the odds this year?

HJ

November 10th, 2011
2:40 pm

It makes me laugh that you think you’re better because you’ve won 7 in a row over complete crap teams. But keep believing. Funny that gt will be the second best team you face all year.

Close in the west endzone!!!!

November 10th, 2011
2:44 pm

Look if you want to sight see during the game then stay outside the stadium. The stadium being closed in would make it a serious home field advantage. It can get really loud with the stadium open on the bridge side…I can only imagine the noise if the stadium was closed in. Look at places like knoxville and the swamp because noise doesn’t escape at those stadiums. The 600 sections at Georgia are a disaster. Don’t add on to that.

Geaux Tigers

November 10th, 2011
2:46 pm

“If UGA played Boise State now instead of at the beginning of the season what kind of game do you think we would see? ”

Doesn’t matter what would happen now. The game has already been played. Just say no to the
woulda, coulda, shoulda.

gt4ever

November 10th, 2011
2:48 pm

about the same! What a STUPID question….

GOBOISESTATE

November 10th, 2011
2:49 pm

Bill, how is it that Georgia has improved this season and Boise State has not? We are a much better team than we were the first game.

You can’t have it both ways.

Contractor

November 10th, 2011
2:50 pm

Let’s not all be fools here. Boise State would still beat us, even today, maybe even more handily than before since they are cranking on all cylinders at this point and our offense still can’t put a team away. Our offense is not tough enough to score more than Boise would. Our defense is a lot tougher now, but the inept play calling by Bobo doesn’t allow us to keep up with them on the scoreboard. It stinks to know this, but it’s what we have, and we have to continue to plug away at the SEC Championship berth and hope for the best.

Buckeye

November 10th, 2011
2:53 pm

Typical dog question…………………shoulda, woulda, coulda

St. Richt

November 10th, 2011
2:56 pm

Good luck against Auburn Dawg fans! Heading down to Bobby Dodd now for our game against the Hokies. Should be a good one…

Bama Mike

November 10th, 2011
2:56 pm

Asking if UGA would beat Boise is open ended. Would Florida beat Georgia both answers maybe. In either case not going to happen. Would Alabama beat LSU maybe. None are going to happen. You get one shot and thats it.

Buckeye

November 10th, 2011
2:58 pm

Better dog question………………

Got dope?

gomdawg

November 10th, 2011
3:00 pm

Auburn is the only game we need to win right now the past is the past .

P_The_Ricker

November 10th, 2011
3:01 pm

hey buckeye,

got probation?

BIGDAWG38

November 10th, 2011
3:02 pm

@ Buckeye: How do you compare the Ohio State Buckeyes and pot??? They both get SMOKED in bowls!!!! GO DAWGS!!!

@ All you Gator fans: Just shut up and go back to Gainesville!!! Noone cares what you have to say!!!

LakeDawg

November 10th, 2011
3:04 pm

I think that UGA would beat Boise if they played them in Sanford Stadium. On a neutral field they would still lose. UGA is much more talented and has greatly improved and I doubt Boise has improved much against their schedule and because they didn’t have much room to improve. However, I still think that Boise would out game plan UGA and make better adjustments.

SEC Observer

November 10th, 2011
3:11 pm

War Eagles 27
Dawgs 24

UGA avoids being embarrassed by Lsu in Atlanta

Joey

November 10th, 2011
3:11 pm

The Free Tatts University.

GTBob

November 10th, 2011
3:13 pm

You’ve gotta be kidding me. UGA wouldn’t come close to Boise St. Narrow victories over bad teams doesn’t mean they are ready to play with the big boys.

STUDAWG

November 10th, 2011
3:16 pm

No we need to make the “silver” britches that we have, MORE silver! They are like a dull, light gray now.

Notso Fast

November 10th, 2011
3:21 pm

Who know but we know what happened the first time and that what counts. I think Ga would defeat SC if played again but could they beat Florida again? I think we will have to wait till nest year.

Eric

November 10th, 2011
3:23 pm

Can Dawg fans and writers please do me a favor and spell David Greene’s name correctly? It is David Greene, not David Green. He is only the winningest QB in school history. Is that too much to ask?

Paul Garmon

November 10th, 2011
3:25 pm

You have got to be kidding. The story would be the same. Georgia has gotton NO BETTER at all. They are playing the easiest scheldue and the weakest teams possible. This will probaly be enough to save CMR job but lets just see how they do against Auburn and Tech. FIRE CMR NOW!!!!!!!!

DwayneL

November 10th, 2011
3:25 pm

Boise State would win again and if UGA gets to Atlanta LSU will embarrass them on national TV!

King Gator

November 10th, 2011
3:31 pm

In scooter wrecks and bong hits, for sure… in a football game – in Athens maybe, on the smurfturf I don’t think so – in the ATL again less than maybe. BSU is tough and without a kicking game – I’d still give them the nod, but it would be a much better game than it was earlier in the year.

David Green

November 10th, 2011
3:33 pm

Can Dawg fans and writers please do me a favor and spell David Greene’s name correctly? It is David Greene, not David Green. He is only the winningest QB in school history. Is that too much to ask?

**********

Thanks Erik Zaire!

- Dave Green

Joey

November 10th, 2011
3:37 pm

GTBob, so . . . , is Tech ready to play with those “big boys” Miss Virginia and Miami?

You’re so predictably anti-UGA, I could answer questions for you . . .

7576DAWG

November 10th, 2011
3:38 pm

I think Florida beats South Carolina. Everybody knows Georgia should have won that game by 3 touchdowns. Even Spurrier admitted Georgia out played them. If they had not had Lattimore to help run out the clock Georgia would have won by 5 touchdowns with no turn overs. Conner Shaw should not be playing because he is hurt and his brain needs to heal , Garcia and Lattimore are gone. Florida has enough play makers to beat South Carolina by 2 touchdowns.
Georgia should go to Atlanta whether they beat Auburn or not but I hate backing into the East championship . So if Florida does beat South Carolina we will know it before the Georgia game starts. I hope the Georgia players will not let down if Florida wins. We need to beat Auburn.

Boise Dawg

November 10th, 2011
3:38 pm

First of all I would argue Georiga played its worst game of the season against South Carolina. Also, what evidence is there that Georgia has improved since the Boise State game? The offense looks no different to me… it is still inconsistent and perhaps the defense has looked better due to the schedule strength.

Now I will say I think the game could be closer if they played again, mostly because Boise State’s run game has been struggling lately and I would hope Grantham could scheme better the second go around… but not because I think overall Georgia looks better.

Joey

November 10th, 2011
3:39 pm

King Gators

0 for October.

j

November 10th, 2011
3:39 pm

They are no better. They are playing some really horrible teams. Georgia Southern has a tougher schedule!