Fan talk: Are this year’s Dawgs on a roll like the 2007 team?

Would Mark Richt still get a thumbs up if the Dogs win out but don't take the SEC East? (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

Would Mark Richt still get a thumbs up if the Dogs win out but don't take the SEC East? (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

As part of the Walk With the Dogs to School event, UGA student-athletes were due to walk groups of children Friday morning to Athens’ Barrow Elementary School, “the best old school I know,” as fellow Barrow alums will remember from the distinctive school song. Barrow is located right across the street from Butts-Mehre Heritage Hall.

The idea is to encourage kids to walk to school whenever they can, said Robert Miles, the UGA Athletic Association’s director of CHAMPS/Life Skills. “The kids love to see a Bulldog in a jersey and the parents remember when our student-athletes take time out of their schedule to visit with the kids, so it’s a win-win situation for everyone.”

You might remember Miles as a member of the 1980 national championship football team, and one of his teammates, Scott Woerner, will be signing autographs and promoting the new “1980 Dawgs” DVD in Athens before and after this weekend’s homecoming game. Woerner will be at the Red Zone at 155 E. Clayton St. 9:30-11:30 a.m. and 4-6 p.m. You can see a clip of Woerner from the video here.

Speaking of Homecoming, the annual parade is Friday evening from 6 to 7 p.m. in downtown Athens.

And now on to some Junkyard Mail. …

Michael Foster writes: Love following you on Facebook and ajc.com! [I've noticed] how similar this season has been, so far, to 2007. Two early season losses (1 being at home to South Carolina), nearly losing the game in Nashville to Vanderbilt, beating Florida in a heated game where Florida fans blamed an injured quarterback for the loss (and amount of sacks). Now, thanks to a sophomore quarterback and a freshman tailback, this team really looks way different than it did in at the start. And the defense, just like 2007, has been GREAT. Fans at the beginning of the season said we basically had to win the SEC East for Richt to save his job. But, what if we go 10-2 and still don’t make the SEC title game? What if we finish 11-2? I’d say, if we do, Richt has the Dawgs right back where we want them.

Well, I’m not ready to count victories the Dogs haven’t earned yet, but I have to agree with you, I don’t think there’d be too many complaints about a two-loss season that saw the Dogs win 11 straight. And, yes, that probably would mean Georgia would wind up with a pretty decent showing in the polls and also, like 2007, would prompt a high preseason ranking next year (though probably not No. 1 like happened in 2008).

J.S. writes: I have a great question for you to pose to the DAWG Nation: As a DAWG fan, if you could pick 1 game for a victory this week, would you choose UGA over New Mexico State or Arkansas over S.C.? My position is Arkansas. It would hurt to lose to New Mexico State, but it is not a conference game and that would allow us to win the SEC East. Otherwise, we are putting our hopes on UF. I do not think that we have a chance to lose to New Mexico, even with the running back issue. However, the question is indicative of DAWG fans’ views between a solo victory and overall success.

I can see your reasoning, though the Bulldog Nation’s howls of anguish and calls for heads to roll in Athens that would accompany a loss to the Aggies of the WAC might put such a damper on the season that winning the SEC East would be all but forgotten. Still, if I must choose, I suppose I’d rather have the conference win.

Steve writes: Some people have stated that UGA’s athletic department’s drug violation policy is the toughest in the SEC. The claim was that every other SEC school allows for a 1st offense without game suspension, and UGA does not. A claim is made that if UGA’s three running backs played for UF, Alabama, Auburn, LSU then they would not have been suspended. Is this true? Find this hard to believe.

It’s true. UGA’s disciplinary guidelines call for players to be suspended from 10 percent of the season (one game) on the first offense. The penalty increases to half the season for a second offense and dismissal from the program for the third offense. A recent survey of SEC athletic departments by Brett McMurphy of cbssports.com shows that in the SEC only Kentucky joins UGA in suspending players for the first drug offense. The other schools do not suspend players until at least the second offense, and Ole Miss waits for the third. Overall, Georgia is one of only six BCS schools with such a strict policy. So, yeah, if those running backs played for the schools you mentioned, they wouldn’t have been suspended and we likely never would have heard a word about the failed drug tests.

Aaron Murray has had trouble with the long ball this season. (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

Aaron Murray has had trouble with the long ball this season. (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

Jeremy Gamiza writes: Why can’t we throw the ball deep? Is it Mike Bobo?

Funny, the complaint I’ve heard most often is that Bobo calls too many deep routes, especially on third down, forcing Aaron Murray to stand in the pocket too long. As for Georgia’s relative lack of success with the deep ball this season, I don’t think you can pin that on Bobo. He doesn’t throw the passes. Murray has, for whatever reason, been extremely inconsistent on long passes this year.

Ralph Jackson writes: My question is simple, should this current situation with our tailbacks help us land a major running back? I mean, I’m thinking, if I were considering the Dawgs and I notice [Isaiah] Crowell having issues, plus taking himself out of games, that would encourage me to go to Georgia, because Crowell might turn out to be his own worst enemy. What do you think? And for heaven’s sake why doesn’t Richt let [Brandon] Bogotay try a few field goals?

Well, let’s hope you’re right, since Georgia is considered one of the favorites in the recruiting battle over 5-star running back Keith Marshall of Raleigh, N.C. As for placekicking, Richt appears committed, at least for now, to Blair Walsh. From what I’ve heard, Walsh, for all his misses in games, is still the most consistent kicker in practice. We’ll just have to wait and see how long Richt’s patience will last with Walsh, who himself said this week, “It’s nice to have his backing, his confidence, but I’m not oblivious. That does run out, I’m sure.” Bonus points to him, by the way, for using the word oblivious.

Also on the subject of kickers, Paula B writes: Hey Bill! LOVE reading your blawg! As much as it breaks my heart to see Blair Walsh and Drew Butler have a tough game (and a tough season overall for Walsh), I’m fascinated to wonder what could possibly be the cause of such a nightmarish turnaround for each of them. What do you think? Is this a result of a lack of coaching by CMR? What is the cause (if any) and what should be done by CMR? Obviously special teams can make or break us in any game. I’ll be at the game on Saturday with my two nieces from Virginia (16 and 19 years old) — their first big college game! GO DAWGS!!!

Hope your nieces enjoy the game. As for the kickers, it’d help, I’m sure, if Georgia could still have a coach who concentrated on them like the late Bill Hartman did back in the Vince Dooley era, but the NCAA put an end to those volunteer coaching spots. Butler has been pretty great this season, so I think we can write last Saturday off as the odd bad day. Walsh’s problems seem more akin to when a golfer suddenly has problems with his swing or a batter goes into a slump in baseball. It might be a technical problem that can be corrected. Early in the season, Walsh indicated he’d watched film and fixed a few little hitches. But he’s still missing kicks, so chances are it’s become more a mental thing. He’s proved in the past he’s a great kicker so it’s just a matter of him working through this. As I noted earlier this week, Kevin Butler thinks he’s just been kicking too much in practice and in warm-ups and needs to pull back. Let’s hope he does so before he runs out of season (or Richt decides to go with Bogotay).

Kelvin Phillips writes: Bill, do you have any idea why we line up in the spread so much? With a 280-pound fullback who can actually block and an offensive line as big as ours, and with Crowell, why do we not line up in the I and run the ball?

The plan was for the Dogs to use the shotgun spread formation more this season as part of their no-huddle offense, in an attempt to get more offensive plays (which has been successful). Also, the idea behind using the spread generally is that it literally spreads the field for the wide receivers and takes some pressure off the offensive line. At times, Isaiah Crowell has actually looked more comfortable running out of the spread than the I, but generally I think the Dogs do better with play-action in their traditional pro set, particularly in the red zone.

Jeremy Floyd writes: Am I the only one wondering about (not questioning yet) Crowell’s toughness? [Richard] Samuel filled in admirably, especially with his effort and hard running. But is Crowell that banged up that he couldn’t play against Florida?

Crowell did get banged up against the Gators, but was able to return to the game. However, Samuel played more in the fourth quarter, apparently because the coaches decided his downhill running style suited what they needed at that time. But, no, you’re not the only one questioning (or at least wondering about) Crowell’s toughness. I’m not sure it’s his toughness as much as it is his conditioning, which apparently was pretty poor to start the season. He was hurt last year in high school and doesn’t seem to have worked hard enough during the offseason. He also, frankly, seems a bit immature in his attitude. Before we write him off as a part-time back, though, let’s let him get through his first season and give the UGA conditioning staff a chance to build up his endurance and also give him some time to grow up.

OkieDawg writes: Hi Bill, by looking at your photo, I assume we attended UGA about the same time. I graduated in 1975 and I am a lifelong Bulldog. I love UGA. I read that in 2010, UGA was #4 in gross revenues @ $65.2 million and #2 in net revenues @ $45.4 million. UGA is profitable due to an excellent brand image that has been built over a long period of time. Are the negative things that have occurred both on the field and off the field going to adversely impact our brand image and thus our continued ability to be one of the most profitable football programs in the nation? In both football and business, the brand is everything. It cannot ever be compromised, it must be protected by all means necessary. Is it properly protected?

Yes, we were at UGA at the same time. I graduated in 1974. As to your question, I think off the field, the brand is in great hands with Mark Richt. Most of the off-field discipline problems in recent years have been relatively minor, though irritating, and as we noted earlier, UGA has a tougher drug policy than most schools. But when it comes to profitability, I believe winning is the most important factor in protecting the brand. A sustained period of lousy seasons might diminish the gross revenues, but I don’t think Greg McGarity would let it get that far. So as far as the brand is concerned, I’m not worried.

Brent Jarnicki writes: Bill, like you, I’m a UGA alum and a die-hard Dawg that enjoys discussions not only about the X’s and O’s, but the “intangibles” of Georgia that we love. I’m writing to you about an issue that’s recently really bothered me: the major changes to the field paint design at Sanford. Hopefully you’ve noticed that since 2008, our field’s paint design has been greatly minimized. From about 2005 to 2007, we had a solid 3 foot red outlining of the entire field. I thought it looked very bold and sharp. This was taken away in 2008. But this year more changes have been made that just completely took away all of Sanford’s tradition and originality. For example, the yardline numbers no longer have the red shadowing, which were around when Herschel played (I’ve watched all the highlight videos and the numbers were shadowed even back then). The endzone lettering is now totally bland, with only a thin red line around the letters (it used to have 3-D lettering, and then a thin red and black outline, which I thought looked best). Finally, this year the field no longer has the Georgia oval G’s at the goaline. These G’s were so unique to Sanford, and really was a nice touch. Now, other than the midfield logo, there is nothing that distinguishes our field, and that really bothers me. Gameday in Sanford has so much tradition and uniqueness that sets it apart from other venues, and I considered the red shadowed numbers and especially the goal line Georgia G some of these cool nuances. Please let me know your thoughts.

I have to say I had not noticed the changes you mention, but I also agree that your description of the way it used to be done does sound more attractive. I’d be interested in hearing if anyone else noticed these changes and what they think of the way the field looks now.

Black jerseys made their debut against Auburn. Should they return? (Associated Press)

Black jerseys made their debut against Auburn. Should they return? (Associated Press)

Josh Johansson writes: Having been a UGA fan since I was born in 1991, and going to games since 1992, my favorite game has been the Blackout against Auburn. Sanford Stadium, that night, was probably the loudest and most excited I had ever seen it. The fans and more importantly the players were so pumped. I know we’ve worn the black jerseys since then (and other, not as popular, variations of black uniforms) but I really feel like it could be a great tradition for us to where those black tops against Auburn, every time we play them at home. It would be similar to the way Notre Dame wears/wore the green jerseys against USC. I think it would be awesome because it wouldn’t be every year. It wouldn’t seem like a “gimmick” against some random team. Those would be THE Black Jerseys that we wear when we play Auburn. What are your thoughts?

I loved the way the black jerseys looked. But I think maybe Richt went to the Blackout well a bit too often in 2007-2008 and after the blowout loss to Bama our superstitious fan base soured on the black jerseys. I’d love to see them brought back at some point but have wondered what would be the best way to do that. Perhaps wear them with no prior notice and without the attendant Blackout hooplah? But I think you might be on to something in your suggestion that they be designated the home jerseys against Auburn. Black jersey fans, what do you think?

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George Stein

November 4th, 2011
1:27 pm

It’ll make me sick to see Marshall successful at UGA because he was supposed to be our next QB!

YoungDawg

November 4th, 2011
1:28 pm

I’ve also noticed the changes to field at Sanford. The look we have now to me is an old school “no thrills” style. I’m fine with the end zones wording style being change periodically but prefer the block drop shadowed yard numbers & the oval G’s at the goal lines. I loved the first Blackout & wish Sanford had that kind of atmosphere every game. Personally I’d like use to have Black jerseys that we ware for special games or occasions. Also for ROAD games only I wouldn’t mind adding red white &\or Black pants that are Dooley era esque (with 3 stripes). If the players want ware any of these “alternates” set goals that if the team achieves then they can ware them.

DannyMan

November 4th, 2011
1:28 pm

No,not on a roll, just beating a bunch of lousy 4-4, 3-5 or 2-6 teams this year. Fla was 4-4. Nex Mex St is 3-5.

DawginLex

November 4th, 2011
1:29 pm

He definitely ran away from the TO.

He is a superstar in the making but I don’t know if he will ever get the chance other than on defense.

ARdawg

November 4th, 2011
1:30 pm

George Stein

I am a traditionalist and like the uni’s as they are. Blackouts and the like is nothing but, gimmicks and has nothing to do with football. Usually, a cover up for other inefficiencies

George Stein

November 4th, 2011
1:30 pm

Wear the red pants to Tennesse, YoungDawg. 100,000 people will be thinking of #34 trucking their linebacker.

George Stein

November 4th, 2011
1:32 pm

Agreed, ARdawg.

I agree, Lex. It’s a challenge to get kids to play for that system. But that’s ok. It’ll weed out the ones who really wanna be at Tech.

Geaux Crimson

November 4th, 2011
1:32 pm

@ DannyMan….yep. One Christmas present after another.

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
1:32 pm

Difference between 2011 and 2012 sked:

Bama instead of Boise (either way, a loss).
Instead of 2 pansies in 2011 (Coastal Carolina and NMSU), 2012 has THREE pansies (Georgia Southern, Buffalo and Florida Atlantic).

Um yeah, 2012 is easier. I wish we played in the SEC Least.

ARdawg

November 4th, 2011
1:33 pm

George Stein

We have ample trolls here and most of them Tech fans. Immature little brats (GT Joe comes to mind) who like nothing better than to hijack monikers. Dispite popular belief, most UGA fans welcome you guys here for open discourse on the game(s)

WDE

November 4th, 2011
1:34 pm

@Geaux Crimson love to get the chance to prove you wrong….we want the shot.

George Stein

November 4th, 2011
1:35 pm

I know, ARdawg. It’s easy to be a big man behind a keyboard. Just makes it tough for reasonable folks to talk ball.

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
1:36 pm

ARdawg: truth hurts I guess. I was talking about UGA NOT being on a roll (the subject of the article right?). It’s a fake “roll” because of the fake schedule, which continues into next year.

So I’m a troll for staying on subject…

George Stein

November 4th, 2011
1:37 pm

It’s enough, GT Joe. You’ve made your point.

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
1:38 pm

Thanks George. I HAVE made point (and very well, I might add).

Now to my next point…

ARdawg

November 4th, 2011
1:38 pm

WDE

I think we can give them a game if we are so fortunate as to get the chance. Those Tide fans are convinced they are invincible. They are quickly becoming the most arrogant fans of the SEC. Even topping the Barners of last year

how2fish

November 4th, 2011
1:38 pm

@DannyMan explain to me please how do you go about beating teams that aren’t on your schedule? I’ve only been watching college football 45 years or so and I still can’t figure that out.

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
1:39 pm

…is Blair Walsh the Reggie Ball of UGA football?

George Stein

November 4th, 2011
1:41 pm

You can’t, how2fish. As I said earlier, you guys can’t control your conference schedule. You got lucky this year. So what? If we can beat VT and Duke, you’ll have played two top 15 teams out conference. That’s nothing to apologize for.

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
1:41 pm

how2fish: you can’t beat teams not on your schedule. But you CAN have realistic thoughts about your team based on how you beat the teams ON your schedule.

You have ARdawg (and many others) on here talking about giving Bama a game. LOL. VANDY gave you a game. Be realistic.

ARdawg

November 4th, 2011
1:42 pm

GT Joe

You tend to make all your own subjects. You answer or respond with vitriol and meaningless juvenile chant. There is, whether you believe it or not, some who come here to discuss the teams, the coaches, the players and the games. Not just my pen!s is bigger than yours because I go to Tech. If you want to be taken more serious then get more serious.

WDE

November 4th, 2011
1:43 pm

@ARdawg I’ve watched both LSU and Bama a good bit this year, they are head and shoulders better than we are, but they aren’t unbeatable no one is…playing them would be a nice step up from last year no matter the outcome IMHO.

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
1:45 pm

Sorry ARdawg. I first talked about the mutts not being on a roll (the subject of the article), and then talked about Blair Walsh (also in the article).

A comparison between UGA’s 2011 and 2012 schedule is juvenile? To be honest, it was the most in-depth analysis I’ve seen on this blog.

how2fish

November 4th, 2011
1:47 pm

@GT Joe Ok lets look at it this way you lost to Virgina and then beat Clemson…most Tech fans had NO confidence that they could do that before the game yet you played the game anyway..and won, good job by the by. We want the same shot in the SEC championship that’s all.

ARdawg

November 4th, 2011
1:48 pm

WDE

I agree completely. Head and shoulders above any other team in the country. Neither is unbeatable as we will witness this weekend. They are deep, strong and have great coaching and we don’t, who could deny? However, worst teams than UGA have beaten better teams than LSU or Bama. It is really why we watch it, isn’t it? There is always that little bit of faith

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
1:48 pm

WDE: “no matter the outcome IMHO”? What if the outcome is Bama 58-0 over UGA?

A loss like that would set UGA back years, especially in recruiting.

George Stein

November 4th, 2011
1:48 pm

Y’all will get that chance, how2fish.

ARdawg

November 4th, 2011
1:51 pm

GT Joe

Your analysis is weak and completely irrelevant. You do not know that UGA has a weak schedule next year. You base that on what, results from this year? Do you expect anyone will change the UGA schedule because you believe it to be weak? You are a big head with a big mouth. Have you done any analysis of GT’s schedule this year and next year?

WDE

November 4th, 2011
1:52 pm

@GT Joe no Joe I don’t agree if we get beat 58-0 it will be in the championship game I don’t think that hurts us at all in recruiting..I can hear it now…Coach ‘Son we got to the SEC title game but just didn’t have the horses to win it…now if you come play for us we have a better chance when we go back next year” at least that’s how I’d play it.

how2fish

November 4th, 2011
1:53 pm

@George Stein I really hope your right, now ya’ll get ready for Va Tech best of luck in that one by the way.

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
1:54 pm

ARdawg: You are playing 3 pansies next year, instead of 2.
You are playing bama instead of Boise, a loss either way.
The rest of the teams are the same (some will be better, some worse). They can’t ALL get better.

So based on this, your schedule is easier next year. Can you make a single argument that it’s HARDER next year (besides “the teams will get better”)?

WDE

November 4th, 2011
1:55 pm

@ARdawg here’s to faith !

ARdawg

November 4th, 2011
1:56 pm

GT Joe

That kind of score while prevalent in the ACC is very uncommon among SEC teams. Your whole basis of discussion is your hatred of UGA. Honestly now and back it up with why you would think so, do you honestly believe either LSU or Bama would beat UGA 58-0? Back it up, take your time and thanks for playing

DawginLex

November 4th, 2011
1:57 pm

SC lost 56-14 to auburn last year and it did not affect recruiting one bit.

Poor analogy

Typical of a troll

George Stein

November 4th, 2011
1:58 pm

Thanks, how2fish. We’ll need it.

George Stein

November 4th, 2011
1:59 pm

Auburn will be better next year GT Joe. It’s a road game and those young players they have this year won’t be so young next year. Unfortunately for them, Ted Roof is still the DC.

George Stein

November 4th, 2011
2:01 pm

UGA will play their guts out against Bama or LSU at the Dome. I just hope y’all are looking ahead a week!

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
2:07 pm

ARdawg: LSU beat UF by 30, Auburn by 35. Bama beat Vandy by 34, Arky by 24 and Florida by 28.

Based on what I’ve seen, UGA is hardly better than UF or Vandy, and AT BEST equal to Auburn (highly doub that).

So I can see UGA losing to either of those teams by 30+. I can also see LSU or Bama favored by 20.

George Stein

November 4th, 2011
2:09 pm

The transitive property doesn’t apply in college football, GT Joe.

We beat NC State, lost to UVA, and UVA got hammered by NC State. If you can make that make sense, you’re smarter than I am.

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
2:09 pm

George: your point about Auburn is what?

I said some will be better, some worse. Will Vandy be better or worse? UK? UT? Fla? SC? Maybe the whole East is rebuilding this year? What a coincidence…

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
2:10 pm

Who is using transitive?

ARdawg

November 4th, 2011
2:10 pm

GT Joe

Just more juvenile rant. Unless you have a crystal ball jammed up your @zz we don’t know about, you haven’t a clue of what next years schedule is going to be or whether or not UGA will beat Bama. Not a clue. Please, stay factual

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
2:11 pm

ARdawg: is 2 pansies this year vs. 3 next year not factual?

Yes...Black Jerseys at Home VS Auburn Every Other Year

November 4th, 2011
2:13 pm

Love it. Wear it. Back in Black!

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
2:14 pm

Here’s some actual and factual stuff for ya: UGA has beaten teams that are a combined 4-22 in SEC play.

Yeah, they’re ready for bama.

George Stein

November 4th, 2011
2:15 pm

You are, GT Joe. You’re saying that because team A beat team B by a million points and team C beat team B by a single point, that team A will beat team C by 999,999 points. Life doesn’t work that way, unfortunately. It’d be a lot easier if it did.

Yes...Black Jerseys at Home VS Auburn Every Other Year

November 4th, 2011
2:15 pm

And. Black pants, too!

GT Joe

November 4th, 2011
2:15 pm

ARdawg: “haven’t got a clue what next years schedule is going to be”?

http://www.sicemdawgs.com/football/sched/fbsch_12.php

ARdawg

November 4th, 2011
2:16 pm

GT Joe

You don’t even know what would move the line on such a game, do you? You do know who sets a spread? The lines are started by professional handicappers and the spreads are then dictated by where the money is bet. It means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Missy St had LSU 6-6 late in the third. UGA had Missy St put away at halftime. UGA and LSU playing, the Missy St games would mean absolutely nothing. You base everything you state about UGA on your hatred for UGA. Your hatred has no connection to games to play. Very juvenile

George Stein

November 4th, 2011
2:16 pm

Good read for those interested. Hard to believe this happened almost a year ago.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/11/ncaa_documents_show_how_it_alm.html