Fan talk: Lesson for Mark Richt is beware of live microphones

Mark Richt obviously didn't know his comments to James Franklin were being overheard. (Associated Press)

Mark Richt obviously didn't know his comments to James Franklin were being overheard. (Associated Press)

Time to check some Junkyard Mail. …

Reagan Mabry writes: I have read the various comments/articles and watched all of the videos of the blow-up at the end of the game. I am very disturbed by what Mark Richt said to [Vanderbilt Coach James] Franklin. Do you think this will only continue to hurt the morale down the road by Richt calling one of his players a dumba–? I don’t agree with what Shawn Williams did after the game to another coach and that should not tolerated, but Vandy was throwing cheap shots and we could only guess what was being said on the field. I agree that Grantham went overboard but, come on Richt, vanilla coat that like everything else you do.

Because of the bleeping, it’s difficult to tell exactly what Richt says on the videotape, but assuming the Nashville TV station’s transcript is accurate, it was surprisingly frank talk on the part of the coach, though obviously not intended for public consumption. A couple of thoughts on that: First, Richt learned a lesson, that as a public figure you should always assume you’re in the vicinity of a live mic. Would Richt have made those comments if he’d known anyone other than Franklin was going to hear them? Probably not. But Richt was angered over the melee at the end of the game, and what he said was correct. No matter how many cheap shot chop blocks the Vandy players committed (and there were many), Shawn Williams mouthing off to the opposing coach after the game was dumb. And Richt’s description of Grantham’s post-game shenanigans (assuming that’s what he was talking about) is just an earthier way of saying what he said elsewhere: That’s not the Georgia way. As for the impact of Richt’s post-game comments, I doubt there’ll be much. The players and coaches involved already knew he was highly displeased. It’s simplistic to view all this and say Todd Grantham has his players’ backs and Richt doesn’t. Not only did Grantham’s tirade set a bad example for his players and embarrass UGA, it probably cost him the use of Williams in the first half of the Florida game. It’s very doubtful conference officials would have reviewed the tape and decided to suspend Williams for a play on which he wasn’t flagged during the game if the Franklin-Grantham showdown hadn’t occurred.

Jeremy Floyd writes: Very concerned that UGA hasn’t beaten a good team since Tech in ’09. Before that have to go back to 2008. Do you think this team really has what it takes? I just don’t see them beating both Florida and Auburn, but hopefully I’m wrong.

This team is fully capable of beating both Florida and Auburn, but it has yet to put together a complete game against lesser opponents and if that continues I’d say it’s bucking the odds to expect the Dogs to win both of those games. I’m hopeful they’ll rise to the occasion.

Craig Plank writes: Hey Bill, First of all I love reading your posts throughout the week and I love how honest you are with your feelings about the Dawgs. I live in Tennessee in the Nashville area and I am starting to get the feeling that most SEC fans are thinking the Dawgs are just gonna fall into the SEC championship and truly not deserve their chance. What’s your feelings about that?

I think if the Dogs make it to the SEC Championship game, they’ll certainly deserve to be there because they will probably have beaten Florida and Auburn and they should have beaten South Carolina. Now, how they’d match up against Alabama or LSU is not something I want to think about too much at this point.

Rontavius Smith writes: Hey Junkyard, I want to know why does [Mike] Bobo call run plays that send Carlton Thomas up the middle when he is a scat back? Wouldn’t it be reasonable to send him to space being that he has speed? The next question is do they believe they can get the offense to run on all cylinders when they play UF, because in my opinion I believe they have to score touchdowns instead of FGs to beat UF.

I’ve never understood trying to run the diminutive Thomas up the middle, considering Georgia’s offensive line, but fortunately there’s been much less of that this season. You’re right that Thomas can be very effective when he gets some space to work in. And I agree with you that attempting field goals (which are no longer a lock with a yippy Blair Walsh) is not going to get it done against the Gators. The two keys there are going to be whether Aaron Murray continues to improve at ball security and how healthy and effective Isaiah Crowell is.

Allen Kennedy writes: Bill, I heard that caller [on "Bulldog Hotline" about Georgia's red zone woes]. I have the same questions. Also, on our opening drive, we are 3rd & 5. We only need 6 yards and we throw a 30 yard pass!? A low percentage play! We have to settle for what used to be an automatic field goal attempt. And for some reason we keep calling low percentage plays on 3rd down. And another thing, why do we keep sending our 3’s & 4’s on special teams when other teams have their 1’s & 2’s out there? The reward for our 3rd stringers should be the privlege of wearing the “G,” not playing on special teams. And one last comment: I was glad to see Grantham take up for the boys after the game. At least somebody has their backs! Thanks Bill, I enjoy the blogs.

I don’t question Grantham supporting his players; I just question the manner in which he did it. As for the playcalling on third down, I agree with you completely. The Dogs seem to make it harder on themselves than it needs to be. And special teams are pretty much a disaster at UGA. Richt’s whole approach to that aspect of the game needs to be rethought.

Josh Cuevas writes: Bill, Once again, strong, even-handed analysis on your part. Two questions: Is there any team in college football right now, or that you can remember in the recent past, with a superior defensive backfield to the current Dogs? Between Boykin, Smith, Rambo, Williams, and Commings, we have not just five solid performers, but five star-quality All-SEC type players back there. I don’t recall a team having that much high quality depth in the defensive backfield. The Dogs defense is finally looking like the “D” of old, stopping the run up front (for the most part), wreaking some havoc on the opposing quarterbacks, and creating turnovers in the secondary. On offense, we’ve got a good quarterback, some receivers have emerged, Crowell has lived up to expectations when he can stay on the field, and the massive O-line has probably performed a little better than initially expected. But it all seems to come apart on offense in the second half. Is this a conditioning issue or is it a result of the opposing coaches making better halftime adjustments and essentially out-coaching our staff? If not for the second half meltdowns and horrific breakdowns on special teams, we could be a Top 10 caliber team right now. What’s causing this second half ineptitude and how should it be addressed?

Georgia’s defensive secondary is extremely talented, and certainly looks like it could be the best the Dogs have had since early in the Richt regime. The next few games will tell the tale. As for the offense in the second half, some games have been better than others, but generally I think it’s been skewed by Mike Bobo calling the games conservatively with a lead.

Harold A. Black ‘66 writes: [The Vanderbilt] game had the dumbest call I have seen in my 50 years of going to the Dawgs. We were at the game and I was stunned that the Dogs just didn’t snap the ball and either take a knee or run around. It was 4th down with 15 seconds on the clock and Vandy did not have a timeout. Snap the ball and the game is over. Instead they were going to kick and give Vandy and chance to run it back and win? Worse, give them an opportunity to block the punt? No way. Richt is too smart for that — right? Wrong. We were lucky that Vandy could not get a handle on the blocked punt or else they would have won. Also that first pass hit the receiver in the hands and we could have lost it there. How could Richt have been so out of it is beyond me.

I don’t know that taking a knee would have been the answer, since it would have given Vandy pretty good field position (though not as good as the blocked punt). But certainly the decision to switch punt formations during the time out was a poor one and the punt team did a horrendous job of executing (other than Drew Butler’s game-saving tackle). But there’s no rhyme or reason to Georgia’s approach to special teams play.

SSgt David Forston writes: Greetings Junkyard, I am currently deployed to Afghanistan and did not get to watch the Bulldogs play [against Vandy], but from what I am reading don’t sound like I missed too much. Like you, I hate when the Dawgs play like pure trash but I have to say I’ll take an ugly win (Vandy) over a pretty loss (S.C.) any day and at the end of the day a W is a W. I have a few questions for you going into the bye week and as the Dawgs get geared up for the greatest outdoor cocktail party. 1) What is happening with our special teams play? B. Walsh clearly has something wrong with him. Have you heard any word going around of maybe replacing him and during all of this is our special teams coach taking any heat? 2) Any news on Crowell and why he was set out for the first quarter? I think the kid has a ton of talent and I am looking foward to seeing him run the rock for a few more years. If he was out for trouble issues I hope CMR can get his head right and maybe this will be a wake up call for him. 3) Last but not least, do you think our D was finally out of gas or do you think Vandy opened up some weaknesses and holes in our D? I know that for the last few weeks the D has carried this team and I hope they were just worn down. As much as I dislike not having a UGA game on a Saturday I think this coming up week is much needed. Can’t wait for that Saturday in Jax to see them Dawgs keep this winning steak going. Take care Junkyard and GO DAWGS!

Georgia’s special teams play, which doesn’t have one overall coach, is a mess right now, but I don’t think there’s been any serious consideration to benching Walsh. The coaches apparently think he’s still the best option. They’ve never said exactly why Crowell was benched in the first quarter but there’ve been rumors involving him getting a bit mouthy with some staffer. Obviously Richt was trying to teach him a lesson. As for the defense, I think a combination of Vandy’s cut blocking and some sloppy play on the part of the Dogs resulted in the Commodores being able to run on Georgia better than expected. I’m hoping the run defense can get back on track after the off week. Thanks for reading and for your service, and stay safe!

Alan Powell writes: Why, why, why won’t Richt play Hutson Mason any? If something happens to Aaron Murray, playing experience will be most beneficial for both the team and Mason.

I agree it would be beneficial for Mason to get more real-game experience. The problem is that Georgia hasn’t been able to get far enough ahead of anyone to put in the backup quarterback. With a mere 5 point lead over Vandy, you didn’t really expect to see Mason coming in during the fourth quarter, did you?

I’ve gotten a lot of letters this week and since there’s no game Saturday, I’ll answer more of them then. So if you’ve got a question or issue you’d like to raise, send it to junkyardblawg@gmail.com.

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G8tr_H8tr

October 20th, 2011
5:00 pm

@GaDawg

This story will hang around as long as the Georgia fan-base wants it to.

Hmmmmmmmm

October 20th, 2011
5:18 pm

The facts are this….. Coach Grantham needs to be FIRED! As long as this crap continues to happen at UGA, the UGA program will continue to be a JOKE, and even bigger JOKE than it already is…..

Bob

October 20th, 2011
5:26 pm

Bill…why not get a Techie to fix your filters. I’ve been trying to send a non-offensive, but politically correct message. And, they are somewhere in cyberspace.

P_The_Ricker

October 20th, 2011
5:28 pm

Hmmmmmmm,

So being ranked in the top 25 and on a 5 game winning streak is the definition of being a “joke?” Can think of at least 95 other teams who wouldn’t mind being a “joke,” if that meant being ranked.

If they beat UF next week, are they a full-scale comedy?

UGA=Dumb Rednecks fans who mutts has not beat a ranked team in 2 years

October 20th, 2011
5:36 pm

How many wins UGA has over UF in the last twenty years? Not much to brag about.

fudd21

October 20th, 2011
5:39 pm

Jose Cuevas,
I think you would be hard pressed to find any coach or writer that thinks GA has the best defensive backfield in the SEC. At BEST, I think they could be listed 3rd. I don’t think it’s close when comparing them to the secondaries of Bama or LSU.

Bob

October 20th, 2011
5:41 pm

@fudd21…I would add third best in the SEC East, not SEC total. Look who we’ve beaten.

Delbert D.

October 20th, 2011
5:41 pm

“I just don’t get Bobo. Thomas up the middle, and Samuel on the sweep.”

That was supposed to fool ‘em.

flounder

October 20th, 2011
5:44 pm

Enter your comments here

What Did He Say?

October 20th, 2011
5:45 pm

Maybe it’s just me but there is no way I can tell what Coach Richt said. Seemed like he was just trying to get rid of Coach Franklin and move on to the locker room.

As for Coach Grantham, I don’t have a problem with a coach defending his players but he was over the top.

Can this BS end already? No one was hurt, the SEC has addressed it. MOVE ON!

Hmmmmmmmm

October 20th, 2011
5:47 pm

Ricker,

The program at UGA continues to raise the bar for embarrassing the state of Georgia… Is there a leader anywhere in Athens that will take charge? Have you people totally lost all sense of what a winning program looks like….

Motivational Speaker

October 20th, 2011
5:56 pm

Hey Richt,
The Dawg’s ain’t man enough to beat Florida!
The Dawg’s ain’t man enough to beat Florida!
The Dawg’s ain’t man enough to beat Florida!
The Dawg’s ain’t man enough to beat Florida!

flounder

October 20th, 2011
5:59 pm

Hope what was reported that Richt said is true. Ga. players, as soon as the game was over were acting as if we won the SEC championship. If the Ga. players were in fact talking smack to the vandy sidelines during the game, it would not surprise me at all. The current players are highly recruited players that have no clue what realty is as they have been treated as if they were special since they were 10 years old. Very embarased after the game. I have no idea what was actually said during or after the game. That being stated, our players should have ran to the locker room with their tail between their legs with the performance they displayed. Get ready for another loss to the gaytors, we will find a way to lose. Hope i’m wrong!

Desert Fox

October 20th, 2011
6:01 pm

Out of curiosity I checked the Dawgs 2011 Media Guide to see who has/is the special teams coach. Well, there isn’t one with that primary duty and it certainly shows on the field. How can you not have a designated special teams coach not on (your) staff? Add another nail to the coffin.

sheepdawg

October 20th, 2011
6:04 pm

called him a dumb___? that was a compliment for the thug he recruited!!

Mike Bobo 17 INT

October 20th, 2011
6:06 pm

CMR is done and ready to move, thus his comment last weekend. He has come to a realization that this program is tanked, the fans are clueless and the players are just basically a lawless group of thugs. UGA is nothing more than a bush league program for average or less than average NFL prospects.

Did I hit the nail on the head?

Mike Bobo 17 INT

October 20th, 2011
6:07 pm

8-4 or 7-5 at best, and CMR gets another year.

Mike T.

October 20th, 2011
6:07 pm

Anybody remember “the shoe string play”we run against Vandy back in 1975,It was a thing of beauty.Those were the days.How long has it been since Georgia has really
run a real razzle dazzle play,something more than an end around.We never fake a punt,or run something like LSU did on USCe with a fake FG.Our whole offense is vanilla.

Delbert D.

October 20th, 2011
6:07 pm

Desert Fox – Check some more schools and see. Frank Beamer is the special teams coach for VT. Ga. Tech doesn’t have one. Due to coaching staff numbers limitations, it’s not that uncommon.

T.

October 20th, 2011
6:12 pm

The facts are this….. Coach Grantham needs to be FIRED

CMR FIRED and Grantham promoted to HC.

Texas Dawg

October 20th, 2011
6:14 pm

Joey….I’m with you brother….I no matter how upset I am I’m foaming out the mouth waiting on the game! GO Dogs! Luvs me some UGA football….just wish we could loose the getto and act like we have been there before and we better beat Fl…if not CMR and BOBO got to go……it’s FLA worst offense in 23 years! …………….

……..which brings me to Tampa Dog…………ALL the more reason not to act the way we did after the game…do we really need to get down to their level…..the leadership (CMR) should make it clear that no matter how dirty the other team plays UGA will settle issues on the field during the game not after………..If our players were that upset we should have crushed Vandy in the 2nd half!~Settle the issue with class on the field of play not the sideline or press………..I remember my days! Pay back as they say was a muther sucker….if the other team was cheap shotting….we settled it on the field!

Delbert D.

October 20th, 2011
6:14 pm

Picked at random.

Florida has a LB coach/special teams coordinator

Miami’s has a LB coach/special teams coordinator

NC State has their recruiting coordinator as special teams coach

DAWGtired

October 20th, 2011
6:15 pm

From my experience in HS, if you don’t have a designated coach to fill that position, it is usually the assistant with the least responsibilities. That probably means Garner. He’s had the closest interaction with Martinez, Fabris, and Belin when they were the ST coaches.

DP

October 20th, 2011
6:16 pm

Bill King and Dawg Nation is still crying about Vandy’s alleged cut blocking, which by the way is legal? I never heard a word about it from Alabama, which played Vandy the week before and held then to 41 yards rushing. I guess Vandy put it in the game plan for Georgia and that’s why they piled up 200 yards rushing.

T.

October 20th, 2011
6:19 pm

DP

Clipping is never legal, cut and chop block had nothing to do with it. Text book case of clipping, happened after ball carrier went out of bounds.It was a cheap shot.

DAWGtired

October 20th, 2011
6:20 pm

Cutblocking is illegal in the NFL b/c it is extremely dangerous…you’re going against the grain right at the patella area of a DL who is already driving with post-power. That said, it’s usually pretty easy to counter as long as you don’t bullrush every play (ps-that’s the only move our line seems to have). If they taught these guys to swim, punch, spin and feign to the inside and used more stunts on the line, it would be a non-factor. Garner is almost as predictable as Bobo.

DAWGtired

October 20th, 2011
6:24 pm

Of course, we play a single-gap defense where the only real responsibility of those linemen is to hold a point(occupy blockers) and collapse the pocket so that it forces a runningback into a pile of mush or sends him bouncing outside into the waiting arms of a linebacker. It’s pretty much the simplest line play to script and minimizes their AOR. It is probably due to the fact that these guys havent worked in the system long enough for a two-gap responsibility (see Florida’s problems vs Bama/LSU)

Tyler

October 20th, 2011
6:31 pm

Bill King the writer of this article should be fired. Can’t believe you are writing articles for UGA and making fun of them and hating on them the whole time. AJC please fire him or at least assign him to another topic then to do the UGA Junkyardblawgs..pleasee..

Henry

October 20th, 2011
6:33 pm

I have backed CMR, but he needs to apologize to fans, players and coaches . He totally sided with a rookie coach , whom it seems may have wanted this fiasco . it seems he may think this will help him recruit .

Delbert D.

October 20th, 2011
6:36 pm

DAWGtired – One of the reason that VT has had good special teams is because Beamer takes that responsibility himself. Cut blocking *is* legal in the NFL. For this year they redefined the rules for cut blocking to include the angle to the football; when WRs cut block, for example.

Scott

October 20th, 2011
6:37 pm

A reminder, yet again, Bill King is a hack and does not have UGA’s interests at heart.

Delbert D.

October 20th, 2011
6:39 pm

DAWGtired – I made a post on ken Sugiura’s blog about the same time as your post on the 1-gap on the difficulty of Georgia Tech employing a 2-gap 3-4.

DAWGtired

October 20th, 2011
6:45 pm

Good point D. My issue is this: teams have used these quick tricks for years and years. It is a SIMPLE adjustment…one that could made in a team or commercial timeout. The fact remains, however, that we do a very poor job at half making adjustments and anticipating adjustments. i think the best half-time adj i’ve seen all season long was C. Petersen changing to a trip set at half to keep our corners from jamming their receivers in the Boise Game. CTG should have switched to a zone blitz in a 3-5-3, stacking on the side of the trips set to slow down the crossing routes. Fail again.

DodgerDAWG

October 20th, 2011
6:46 pm

I think that if you listen close enough you will really hear Coach Mark Richt to have said “He shouldn’t have done that”. Not what the media is stirring out of control. Just like the media reaction to Grantham it is just the media trying to paint a bad light so they can add more articles calling for the dismaissal of Coach Richt.

gomdawg

October 20th, 2011
6:47 pm

I think the coach for Vandy needs a lesson you don’t act like he did on TV , he was a poor excuse for a coach he down grade a player on national TV. he can go to hell

Delbert D.

October 20th, 2011
6:48 pm

Here’s what the NCAA decided for 2011:

“Blocking Below the Waist

The committee had an extensive discussion about blocking below the waist. There is general agreement that the current rule is overly cumbersome and complicated. Committee members will make suggestions for modification of the rule to the secretary-rules editor who will frame possible new language. This will be considered at the next committee meeting in 2011.”

Referee

October 20th, 2011
6:48 pm

Why don’t you report the score of the game only. We really don’t need your opinion. Reporting is giving the facts, not you opinion of the facts.

THis dead horse story needs to be put to rest. PLEASE do that.

DAWGtired

October 20th, 2011
6:49 pm

LOL…it’s hilarious that Groh is trying to use a two-gap assignment with the players on his team. Not stout enough up front for them to split the guards and the tackles, not athletic enough to counter on the traps…great scheme Groh.

JRW7

October 20th, 2011
6:51 pm

The Nasville TV shows that CMR is a WIMP! CMR called his own players and his coach “DUMB ASSES on TV! CTG might get tired of all this “STUFF” and leave UGA and go back to NFL at the end of season!

G8tr_H8tr

October 20th, 2011
6:51 pm

gomdawg

October 20th, 2011
6:51 pm

Mark Richt did NOT SAY THAT DON’T PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

October 20th, 2011
6:52 pm

@Referee this is set up as a FAN’S View which you can blog your opinion about. You just want scores then go to the ESPN trackers and be done.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

October 20th, 2011
6:56 pm

@JRW7 Grantham go back to the NFL? he was Fired. He will just be another unemployed coach looking for ANY coaching Job.

Delbert D.

October 20th, 2011
6:57 pm

DAWGtired – Here is a quote from Todd Grantham going into last year on his version of the 3-4, and the “myth” that the 3-4 always requires a Terrence Cody-type NT: “When we were in Dallas, Jay Ratliff made the pro bowl as a nose tackle, and he’s an undersized nose tackle and we’re going to be more of a one-gap team so you can play with guys that are like that,” Grantham said.

And as a bonus, he has 2 monster NTs this year for his 1-gap.

G8tr_H8tr

October 20th, 2011
7:04 pm

I think that if you listen close enough you will really hear Coach Mark Richt to have said “I have some MoonPies and RC colas out in my truck”.

DAWGtired

October 20th, 2011
7:09 pm

@ H8tr-
I hope Grantham didn’t hear him say that. He probably would have bullrushed right over McGarity trying to find his Chuck Wagon. LOL>

pete

October 20th, 2011
7:11 pm

But Shawn Williams IS a dumba**

DAWGtired

October 20th, 2011
7:13 pm

I don’t think I’ve seen one person contradict that statement on here yet Pete.

DodgerDAWG

October 20th, 2011
7:19 pm

Why won’t you post my comment?

DAWGtired

October 20th, 2011
7:20 pm

Delbert-you got any comment on those halftime adjustments at the Boise Game?