Fan talk: Lesson for Mark Richt is beware of live microphones

Mark Richt obviously didn't know his comments to James Franklin were being overheard. (Associated Press)

Mark Richt obviously didn't know his comments to James Franklin were being overheard. (Associated Press)

Time to check some Junkyard Mail. …

Reagan Mabry writes: I have read the various comments/articles and watched all of the videos of the blow-up at the end of the game. I am very disturbed by what Mark Richt said to [Vanderbilt Coach James] Franklin. Do you think this will only continue to hurt the morale down the road by Richt calling one of his players a dumba–? I don’t agree with what Shawn Williams did after the game to another coach and that should not tolerated, but Vandy was throwing cheap shots and we could only guess what was being said on the field. I agree that Grantham went overboard but, come on Richt, vanilla coat that like everything else you do.

Because of the bleeping, it’s difficult to tell exactly what Richt says on the videotape, but assuming the Nashville TV station’s transcript is accurate, it was surprisingly frank talk on the part of the coach, though obviously not intended for public consumption. A couple of thoughts on that: First, Richt learned a lesson, that as a public figure you should always assume you’re in the vicinity of a live mic. Would Richt have made those comments if he’d known anyone other than Franklin was going to hear them? Probably not. But Richt was angered over the melee at the end of the game, and what he said was correct. No matter how many cheap shot chop blocks the Vandy players committed (and there were many), Shawn Williams mouthing off to the opposing coach after the game was dumb. And Richt’s description of Grantham’s post-game shenanigans (assuming that’s what he was talking about) is just an earthier way of saying what he said elsewhere: That’s not the Georgia way. As for the impact of Richt’s post-game comments, I doubt there’ll be much. The players and coaches involved already knew he was highly displeased. It’s simplistic to view all this and say Todd Grantham has his players’ backs and Richt doesn’t. Not only did Grantham’s tirade set a bad example for his players and embarrass UGA, it probably cost him the use of Williams in the first half of the Florida game. It’s very doubtful conference officials would have reviewed the tape and decided to suspend Williams for a play on which he wasn’t flagged during the game if the Franklin-Grantham showdown hadn’t occurred.

Jeremy Floyd writes: Very concerned that UGA hasn’t beaten a good team since Tech in ’09. Before that have to go back to 2008. Do you think this team really has what it takes? I just don’t see them beating both Florida and Auburn, but hopefully I’m wrong.

This team is fully capable of beating both Florida and Auburn, but it has yet to put together a complete game against lesser opponents and if that continues I’d say it’s bucking the odds to expect the Dogs to win both of those games. I’m hopeful they’ll rise to the occasion.

Craig Plank writes: Hey Bill, First of all I love reading your posts throughout the week and I love how honest you are with your feelings about the Dawgs. I live in Tennessee in the Nashville area and I am starting to get the feeling that most SEC fans are thinking the Dawgs are just gonna fall into the SEC championship and truly not deserve their chance. What’s your feelings about that?

I think if the Dogs make it to the SEC Championship game, they’ll certainly deserve to be there because they will probably have beaten Florida and Auburn and they should have beaten South Carolina. Now, how they’d match up against Alabama or LSU is not something I want to think about too much at this point.

Rontavius Smith writes: Hey Junkyard, I want to know why does [Mike] Bobo call run plays that send Carlton Thomas up the middle when he is a scat back? Wouldn’t it be reasonable to send him to space being that he has speed? The next question is do they believe they can get the offense to run on all cylinders when they play UF, because in my opinion I believe they have to score touchdowns instead of FGs to beat UF.

I’ve never understood trying to run the diminutive Thomas up the middle, considering Georgia’s offensive line, but fortunately there’s been much less of that this season. You’re right that Thomas can be very effective when he gets some space to work in. And I agree with you that attempting field goals (which are no longer a lock with a yippy Blair Walsh) is not going to get it done against the Gators. The two keys there are going to be whether Aaron Murray continues to improve at ball security and how healthy and effective Isaiah Crowell is.

Allen Kennedy writes: Bill, I heard that caller [on "Bulldog Hotline" about Georgia's red zone woes]. I have the same questions. Also, on our opening drive, we are 3rd & 5. We only need 6 yards and we throw a 30 yard pass!? A low percentage play! We have to settle for what used to be an automatic field goal attempt. And for some reason we keep calling low percentage plays on 3rd down. And another thing, why do we keep sending our 3’s & 4’s on special teams when other teams have their 1’s & 2’s out there? The reward for our 3rd stringers should be the privlege of wearing the “G,” not playing on special teams. And one last comment: I was glad to see Grantham take up for the boys after the game. At least somebody has their backs! Thanks Bill, I enjoy the blogs.

I don’t question Grantham supporting his players; I just question the manner in which he did it. As for the playcalling on third down, I agree with you completely. The Dogs seem to make it harder on themselves than it needs to be. And special teams are pretty much a disaster at UGA. Richt’s whole approach to that aspect of the game needs to be rethought.

Josh Cuevas writes: Bill, Once again, strong, even-handed analysis on your part. Two questions: Is there any team in college football right now, or that you can remember in the recent past, with a superior defensive backfield to the current Dogs? Between Boykin, Smith, Rambo, Williams, and Commings, we have not just five solid performers, but five star-quality All-SEC type players back there. I don’t recall a team having that much high quality depth in the defensive backfield. The Dogs defense is finally looking like the “D” of old, stopping the run up front (for the most part), wreaking some havoc on the opposing quarterbacks, and creating turnovers in the secondary. On offense, we’ve got a good quarterback, some receivers have emerged, Crowell has lived up to expectations when he can stay on the field, and the massive O-line has probably performed a little better than initially expected. But it all seems to come apart on offense in the second half. Is this a conditioning issue or is it a result of the opposing coaches making better halftime adjustments and essentially out-coaching our staff? If not for the second half meltdowns and horrific breakdowns on special teams, we could be a Top 10 caliber team right now. What’s causing this second half ineptitude and how should it be addressed?

Georgia’s defensive secondary is extremely talented, and certainly looks like it could be the best the Dogs have had since early in the Richt regime. The next few games will tell the tale. As for the offense in the second half, some games have been better than others, but generally I think it’s been skewed by Mike Bobo calling the games conservatively with a lead.

Harold A. Black ‘66 writes: [The Vanderbilt] game had the dumbest call I have seen in my 50 years of going to the Dawgs. We were at the game and I was stunned that the Dogs just didn’t snap the ball and either take a knee or run around. It was 4th down with 15 seconds on the clock and Vandy did not have a timeout. Snap the ball and the game is over. Instead they were going to kick and give Vandy and chance to run it back and win? Worse, give them an opportunity to block the punt? No way. Richt is too smart for that — right? Wrong. We were lucky that Vandy could not get a handle on the blocked punt or else they would have won. Also that first pass hit the receiver in the hands and we could have lost it there. How could Richt have been so out of it is beyond me.

I don’t know that taking a knee would have been the answer, since it would have given Vandy pretty good field position (though not as good as the blocked punt). But certainly the decision to switch punt formations during the time out was a poor one and the punt team did a horrendous job of executing (other than Drew Butler’s game-saving tackle). But there’s no rhyme or reason to Georgia’s approach to special teams play.

SSgt David Forston writes: Greetings Junkyard, I am currently deployed to Afghanistan and did not get to watch the Bulldogs play [against Vandy], but from what I am reading don’t sound like I missed too much. Like you, I hate when the Dawgs play like pure trash but I have to say I’ll take an ugly win (Vandy) over a pretty loss (S.C.) any day and at the end of the day a W is a W. I have a few questions for you going into the bye week and as the Dawgs get geared up for the greatest outdoor cocktail party. 1) What is happening with our special teams play? B. Walsh clearly has something wrong with him. Have you heard any word going around of maybe replacing him and during all of this is our special teams coach taking any heat? 2) Any news on Crowell and why he was set out for the first quarter? I think the kid has a ton of talent and I am looking foward to seeing him run the rock for a few more years. If he was out for trouble issues I hope CMR can get his head right and maybe this will be a wake up call for him. 3) Last but not least, do you think our D was finally out of gas or do you think Vandy opened up some weaknesses and holes in our D? I know that for the last few weeks the D has carried this team and I hope they were just worn down. As much as I dislike not having a UGA game on a Saturday I think this coming up week is much needed. Can’t wait for that Saturday in Jax to see them Dawgs keep this winning steak going. Take care Junkyard and GO DAWGS!

Georgia’s special teams play, which doesn’t have one overall coach, is a mess right now, but I don’t think there’s been any serious consideration to benching Walsh. The coaches apparently think he’s still the best option. They’ve never said exactly why Crowell was benched in the first quarter but there’ve been rumors involving him getting a bit mouthy with some staffer. Obviously Richt was trying to teach him a lesson. As for the defense, I think a combination of Vandy’s cut blocking and some sloppy play on the part of the Dogs resulted in the Commodores being able to run on Georgia better than expected. I’m hoping the run defense can get back on track after the off week. Thanks for reading and for your service, and stay safe!

Alan Powell writes: Why, why, why won’t Richt play Hutson Mason any? If something happens to Aaron Murray, playing experience will be most beneficial for both the team and Mason.

I agree it would be beneficial for Mason to get more real-game experience. The problem is that Georgia hasn’t been able to get far enough ahead of anyone to put in the backup quarterback. With a mere 5 point lead over Vandy, you didn’t really expect to see Mason coming in during the fourth quarter, did you?

I’ve gotten a lot of letters this week and since there’s no game Saturday, I’ll answer more of them then. So if you’ve got a question or issue you’d like to raise, send it to junkyardblawg@gmail.com.

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Kiss The Ring

October 20th, 2011
1:42 pm

Funny how AUburn players got suspended for retaliating agianst UGA dirty blocks and its wrong, but when Geathers does it…..hmmmm.

MarineDog

October 20th, 2011
1:44 pm

@ga gator,

I’m just ready for all this to just go away. I’m sure Richt does as well.

For everyone that’s saying that he sold his coach and player out: The best thing he could have done was to diffuse the situation as quickly as possible. That was a “managemnet moment”, meaning you manage that particualr situation because at that point, we were the only ones with anything to lose. Sometimes you say things that you wish you hadn’t said and he will have to manage that as well; if indeed, that’s what he said. I think he knew that we were going to lose the public relations contest in this one. Just placate the guy and let him and his team go away and deal with it later. Trust me, it works, I tell my wife she’s right all the time (doesn’t mean that I believes she’s right) just so I can end the discussion. You cannot reason with an emotional person and Franklin even himself admitted to the same, but not much else. Vandy is playing Army their next game and they are not in contention for the east. It’s time to play football. We were in a whole lot worse situation this time last year as far as win/losses. Am I happy with how we’ve won the games? No! Am I happy that we’ve won those games? Yes!! Guys, it could be a lot worse sort, of like last year. That’s what we should be focused on. Get through this season and accomplish more than we did last year. Let the powers to be decide if changes need to be made to the staff. I’m going to support this staf, the next staff, and the one after that one too.

Still@theBAR

October 20th, 2011
1:46 pm

Kiss T R and if Fairley was a Dawg doing those Hit on the Auburn QB the dawgs would be loving it.
College football fans are not always RATIONAL as you know. Some are More Irrational than others.

Can't wait for a game

October 20th, 2011
1:46 pm

Shawn Williams is the same player whose family lost everything in a fire a little over a year ago. I sincerely hope he doesn’t read or give a crap about a bunch of bloggers making assumptions about his entire life and personality based on a few video clips where he wasn’t at his best behavior.

I know it’s not hoops season, but why not hammer Donovan at UF for putting his two players back on the team that broke into a car in St. Augustine this summer and then went on to talk a lot worse than field trash all caught on the police car tape, not assumed, plain as can be on tape. Their entire suspension time was served in the offseason. I can give you at least 15 examples right now of SEC football and basketball players at every school messing up, most much worse than Shawn Williams has ever thought about.

People seem to live in a bubble where they think that UGA must be soooo awful because they only follow local news that sensationalizes any little bit of bad news there. Try following the local news of just the rest of the SEC, if not the nation, and UGA will look squeaky clean compared to most.

It is also just downright stupid to paint an entire program as dirty or bad every time one or 2 players mess up while the other 120+ on the roster don’t. Frankly, they have a lot better percentage of good behavior than bloggers and reporters do.

sliderule

October 20th, 2011
1:46 pm

Seems the popular response to problems in high school, college, and pro football poor spotrsmanship is “it’s not who we are.” Yes, it is EXACTLY who you are!

Patrick

October 20th, 2011
1:49 pm

Who cares??? UGA plays UF in 9 days, and that’s all that matters at this point.

wow

October 20th, 2011
1:51 pm

Who was that FL player that Urban Cryer gave the half game suspension to a year or 2 ago….recall he did something completely outragious

wow

October 20th, 2011
1:53 pm

@still drunk at bar and kiss t ring…..You’re Both rational?!!
FL and Aub are perfect huh?

Cats hav fleas 2

October 20th, 2011
1:54 pm

Seen the videos and there are still many unanswered questions. Why is the assumption that Franklin is being truthful? He apparently approved, and possibly directed, a late clip on a UGA player. He sounds like a whiner lining up to cry to whoever will listen. That’s why Vandy has been, and will continue to be a doormat.

UGA Alumnus

October 20th, 2011
1:55 pm

the fact that Bill King is perpetuating the “yeah, he’s a dumb ass” absurdity is irresponsible. i watched that clip over and over and can’t make out what Coach Richt said.

Still@theBAR

October 20th, 2011
1:56 pm

wow………….I never said I was rational. I did imply that most UGA fans (not UGA Grad fans) are very Irrational.

Fan of the Game

October 20th, 2011
1:59 pm

Former Gator Spikes tries to claw out an opposing player’s eyes and his own coach has to suspend him. Slive and SEC did nothing. Enough said!

Dirty Dawg

October 20th, 2011
2:00 pm

Dawg83 is right, Bill does seem to go out of his way to post the negative – even when he’s ‘just’ including what ‘other’ fans send in. And it’s in recognition of this that I keep asking him if he’s on Don Leeburn’s payroll or something. Leeburn is a ‘well-healed’, former player, member of the Board (of something or other that has to do with athletics), ‘roommate’ to Suzanne Yocklan (sp?), purveyor of spirits out of Columbus or somewhere and an ardent, and open critic of Mark Richt. Don’t know what it is other than he, Leeburn, seems to have ‘devolved’ into one of those 1 percenters who’s arrogance and money have convinced him that what he wants and what he says, ought to go…you know, our Bobby Louder.

Now Bill if you don’t believe that you’re in the Leeburn camp (I don’t mean his money, I mean his sentiments), say so. Then we’ll know that you’re just another one of those, so-called, Dog fans that thinks criticism of the current regime is healthy for the program, particularly if it’ll result in getting Richt run off or hounded enough to convince him that it’s not worth the effort to keep this bunch of peckerwoods happy. Is that who you are Bill? Come on…admit it…otherwise become part of the solution, not part of the problem.

wanna bet

October 20th, 2011
2:01 pm

kiss the ring….I’m sure richt called his player a lot worse in the locker room for being a dumb@$$ ….Is the coach at your favorite dump a saint? You’re a dumb@$$

Homer the Humper Owner

October 20th, 2011
2:01 pm

wow

October 20th, 2011
1:51 pm
Who was that FL player that Urban Cryer gave the half game suspension to a year or 2 ago….recall he did something completely outragious

Shot for brains it was Brandon Spikes who embarrassed UF even the Washup Ealey said that he did not touch his eyes. WOW you are typical.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

October 20th, 2011
2:01 pm

Wow I am neither a Gator or Auburn fan.

MeShon Mareno=Spikes Hit ME

October 20th, 2011
2:04 pm

I am going on injured reserve when we play the Patriots.

Delbert D.

October 20th, 2011
2:05 pm

I posted a link to a site that has the “unbleeped” conversation, but it lasted only 5 minutes on this blog before it was removed.

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

October 20th, 2011
2:06 pm

I just cant wait to see all the people on here pounding their chest and foaming at the mouth after we beat FL next week

As if this years FL team was any good.

But they will think it was a signature win or the win of the decade.

They will probably sell DVD copies of the game acting like this was a UGA milestone victory

Delbert D.

October 20th, 2011
2:07 pm

MeShon Mareno=Spikes Hit ME

October 20th, 2011
2:07 pm

Delbert Bill does not want CMR to look bad.

bobby

October 20th, 2011
2:11 pm

let’s focus on the florida game people. that’s in the past uga and vanderbilt was wrong as two left shoes but time to focus on florida.

wow

October 20th, 2011
2:11 pm

so grad fans are rational and all others are not? And with your logic only at UGA?
What is FAN short for again?
Are your schools fans all rational? You are on a UGA blog. If we go to another blog for another SEC school (just keeping it southern where passions run high for college football) we would find rational tea conversation? Don’t think so.
You happen to be in the largest city of the south, away from your favorite podunk and have to read about UGA and hate it because that’s where you are….Or you don’t have to be in this blog hating on UGA, do you? Who’s irrational?

Still@theKool-aidBAR

October 20th, 2011
2:12 pm

I have read Paul Johnson’s lips. It ain’t all perfume and roses towards his players making dumb mistakes.

Delbert D.

October 20th, 2011
2:13 pm

Can’t even post any part of the URL now. Mark Rich and James Franklin said exactly what is in the transcript.

Go to Chip Towers’ blog and and look for the post at 9:52 a.m. Use hi-fi earphones, or you might not catch the words at first. It is looped several times.

bobby

October 20th, 2011
2:13 pm

this year uga has a chance if they beat uf to win the sec east and there has’nt been no talk about that in a long time. if uga plays better on offense and special teams they have a true shot and i thimk they will beat florida if they do that.

wow

October 20th, 2011
2:14 pm

Homer humper….so spikes got how much of a suspension for that?
And Again F Off

King Gators

October 20th, 2011
2:15 pm

Any one else drinking yet? Go Gators!

ckgator

October 20th, 2011
2:15 pm

Even as a Gator, I must say this is an well-written and interesting column.

My take on the game: Florida will likely win if Brantley can take the field and be effective. Otherwise, its GA’s game. The Gator offense is downright anemic at present with our promising but true-freshment QB’s. **The Gators have seen the end zone exactly twice in the last 3 games.**

It’s up to Georgia to take the game and make it theirs. This is the Florida you want to play (young and hurt) and a window where you can make Atlanta a reality. God help you against Bama or LSU, though.

Go Gators!

wow

October 20th, 2011
2:17 pm

Still at bar….so do you ever actually visit tech site? or is it more of a pleasure to be amongst Dawgs?

Still@theKool-aidBAR

October 20th, 2011
2:17 pm

wow what part of I never said I was rational did you miss? More of the Actual grads of a College are rational because they more invested in what their Diploma on the Wall represents than what a freaking bunch of dumb jock do in a sporting event. When the players and coaches bring SHAME to the Institution a Grad is MAD because of the reflection on them. The 10 million Redneck UGA fans that have never purchaced tickets to a game much less been in a classroom at UGA are more irrational for sure.

ckgator

October 20th, 2011
2:17 pm

Excuse the typo… “a” well-written column, that is.

Stuck in Kentucky

October 20th, 2011
2:18 pm

Jared is absolutley right, CMR apologized for his choice of words right after the game. It is obvious he was trying to diffuse the situation and he was using language that the idiot Franklin could understand. It’s called statemenship to mirror someone that you may have a dispute with. If you idiots think CMR is so dumb not to know that the mics were around then you really have are ignorant and are looking for any excuse to have him fired. To the CMR haters, he cannot do anything right and any percieved misstep is blown way out of porportion. How many times has he done something like this in his tenure?? I can’t recall one time. If anything I would bet good money he knows exactly what he is doing. Plus the game was poorly played because these kids have been humping it for 6 weeks w/o a break and see the bye week and Fla ahead. It is human nature to possible not be at your best when you are as young as they are, tired and have a really big fish to fry just ahead. So think of the big picture or just think before you make stupid comments that make zero sense.

Still@theKool-aidBAR

October 20th, 2011
2:21 pm

Wow i am on the Tech blogs all the time. Even on the Miami herald site talking crap to them for this weekends game.

Top Dawg of Blue Ridge

October 20th, 2011
2:21 pm

CMR called it like it was…. We had a defensive coordinator and a player acting like dumbasses after the game. Get over it??

wow

October 20th, 2011
2:21 pm

Homer….so according to you Ga players suspensions should be worse than what criminal Spikes did?
Typical, Your mother should have aborted you….now F Off

LakeDawg

October 20th, 2011
2:21 pm

For the first time in a long time, I like the way CMR responded. He was upset and he voiced his displeasure. Bravo! Williams and Grantham needed to hear that from their boss. Do you think the Bear or Saban care if they hurt someone’s feelings? Especially after playing and acting like losers? No room for that and CMR let it be known.

wow

October 20th, 2011
2:24 pm

Still at bar….always seem to be here….and a person that goes from site to site to antagonize and talk trash, as you admit too doing, is Very Irrational…and might I add sounds a bit unstable…

MarineDog

October 20th, 2011
2:25 pm

Still@theBAR,

wow………….I never said I was rational. I did imply that most UGA fans (not UGA Grad fans) are very Irrational.

How do you quantify this claim, since this blog is a very small sampling of UGA fans? There are a lot of fans outside the state of Ga., just like FL fans are all over the place.

I normally ignore your post, because I know where they’re going. I’m not a UGA grad, but I am a fan and I do not consider myself irrational, nor do the Marines that I’m charged with leading. I’m not sure if you believe some of the things that you say. If you don’t like UGA, then that’s another thing, but to say most when it’s impossible for you to have even met or talked to MOST fans borders on “kool-aide” consumption in its pure definition as you so fondly mention quite often.

King Gators

October 20th, 2011
2:25 pm

Florida 34
Georgia 31

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Georgia DC – 1 ineffective choke sign

Go Gators!

Delbert D.

October 20th, 2011
2:26 pm

Quoting Bill here “I don’t know that taking a knee would have been the answer, since it would have given Vandy pretty good field position (though not as good as the blocked punt). ”

South Carolina faced a similar situation, although with 7 seconds left. Spurrier had Shaw run with the ball to the end zone, burning seconds until he ran out the back for a game-ending safety. In Georgia’s situation, more time might have been run off the clock, but taking a safety might have left a few seconds on the clock. The result, free kick from the 20 yard line, and with Butler punting, Vanderbilt would not have had good field position to run 1 play.

Top Dawg of Blue Ridge

October 20th, 2011
2:26 pm

Nicely put LakeDawg….Why is this such a big deal?

DAWGtired

October 20th, 2011
2:29 pm

@wow
Still@theBar (drinkingKool-aid) is not an antagonist. He is a realist. The only people “antagonized” by his comments are blind homers who accept any comment that drops out of RIcht’s mouth. He’s a decent HC, and an awesome PR rep for the program. He hasn’t cut Bobo yet, and it’s an anchor around his ankles. If you think Mark is doing such a great job, then I’m sure that you are totally convinced he will win next week. That is called ignorance, as his 2-8 record proves that he is going to be fighting against an inferior team from 60:00 to 00:00, instead of putting these lackluster chumps in their place.

Top Dawg

October 20th, 2011
2:30 pm

I must agree, all of the bozos in a GA blog shoving their hatred for GA are all unstable and purely idiotic.

Delbert D.

October 20th, 2011
2:30 pm

Still@theKool-aidBAR is nothing, if not consistent. Every blog, every time. And, no, he has never claimed to be rational; quite the opposite on a couple of occasions.

Snake Doc

October 20th, 2011
2:33 pm

The orange CEO is a disgrace to the game of football and coaching!

James Stewart

October 20th, 2011
2:34 pm

k. Reeves deff, dumb and blind and I bet he has never been to Athens or never looked at the game films. He is your sissy boy liberal tha5t cryies and kick his feet on the floor every time vandy looses a game witch is often and he has an excuse for all the losses. he should change his name to cry baby reeves.

Snake Doc

October 20th, 2011
2:35 pm

The CEO apologists still looking at life through spray on tan orange glasses.

What a bunch of muttheads!

DAWGtired

October 20th, 2011
2:35 pm

Ask you this, what will be the headline after we beat Florida? It will either be, “Dawgs Finally Win one Over the Gators, but What Does that Really Mean this Year?” or “Richt’s Bittersweet Victory” b/c we did against the worst Gator team since Zook was coaching. On the other hand, if we lose, they will suddenly be calling Florida a “surprise” team in the east. Either way, we need to show that we are a good team, something I feel that we are incapable of with the Staffing in its current condition.

PurEvil

October 20th, 2011
2:39 pm

You’re a dum dum head!!!!