Fan talk: Does Clemson belong in the SEC?

SEC LogoOne week to go. Time for some more Junkyard Mail. First up, a couple of readers want to talk SEC expansion. …

Jonathan London writes: I don’t understand why the SEC wants another member to add to the conference. All that will do is decrease each school’s share when we split up revenue. It might increase overall revenue, but I don’t think enough to offset the decreases. We have the greatest league in college football history right now. Why would we want to dilute it by adding another school, especially some inferior, middle of the road program like Texas A&M? Compared to Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, Auburn and Florida, adding A&M is like adding another Arkansas. FSU isn’t much better.

And Carolina Pup writes: Looks like Texas A&M joining the SEC is pretty much a done deal. But how long can the conference go with an unbalanced 13 teams? So who should be added as the 14th team? Or should the SEC go all the way to being a 16-team mega-league? I know who I’d like to see added: The Clemson Tigers! What do you think?

As I’ve said before, to me it only makes sense for the SEC to expand if it moves into new television markets, which will increase the revenue when the conference undoubtedly opens talks on renegotiating its current TV deal. Texas A&M gets the conference into the Texas TV markets, so I think it’s a win for the SEC. As for making Clemson the 14th team, I disagree. Yes, Clemson would be a good fit in the SEC in terms of football culture and fan support and most years would be competitive, but the SEC already has the South Carolina TV market, so the Tigers don’t bring anything new to the table. If the conference does decide to expand to 16 teams then, yes, I think Clemson should be one of them. But if it only goes to 14, the logical choice to be added to the East to balance A&M joining the West is Virginia Tech, a major program that would bring the Washington, D.C. television market with it. Now, I know that the Hokies’ athletic director has said he would “politely decline” a bid from the SEC, but that’s probably about as firm as a Nick Saban denial. If, however, Virginia Tech does decide to stay in the ACC, picking a 14th team becomes a bit trickier. Although on the surface Missouri might not seem like a good fit for the SEC, I’ve heard a pretty good case made for them in terms of adding the St. Louis TV market. So for the 14th team it looks like Virginia Tech and Missouri are the best options. If the conference adds a 15th and 16th team, Florida State and Clemson would be my preferred picks.

Barry Smith writes: Bill, I thought Boise was supposed to wear blue in the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game but I see now that their Pro Combat uniforms have been unveiled, and they’re all white. What gives? And which team do you think fared the best in the Nike fashion makeover?

Boise State's helmet for the game against Georgia. (Nike)

Boise State's helmet for the game against Georgia. (Nike)

The game contract did indeed call for both Georgia and Boise State to wear their home colors, but in today’s college football world Nike gets what Nike wants, so the Broncos will be in what’s been dubbed their “ghost horse” uniform. (By the way, Boise State is asking its fans to wear blue to the game.) While I’m not crazy about Georgia’s jerseys, as I said earlier this week, I don’t mind the all-red look and like it better than Boise’s white on white, a look that I’ve never been fond of, whether it was on Penn State or the Georgia Tech band. But I must say I really like the Pro Combat helmets Nike came up with for Boise with that cool Bronco logo. Meanwhile, if you haven’t yet watched the Nike promotional video for UGA’s Pro Combat look, check it out here.

Myles writes: Hey Bill, so, how many WR/Flanker screens will Bobo call in the opener? Over or under 3? Whatcha got? Semper Fi and GO DAWGS!

I’m betting Bobo calls more than three screens and he’s likely to be dumping it off to the backs quite a bit, too. It makes sense to get the ball to Georgia’s playmakers in open space against the Boise defense.

Speaking of Bobo, Wes Starr writes: When are the Bulldogs, and Richt in particular, going to rid themselves of Bobo as a coach for the offense? The Bulldogs have not had a great quarterback since David Greene when it comes to flat out confusing defenses. Matthew Stafford was talent mixed with an idiot Bobo. If Stafford was under the direct coaching of Richt, there would have been a National Championship. When is Bobo gone?

I’ve had mixed feelings about Bobo the past few seasons. At times, he makes really smart calls, and I disagree with you about Georgia’s quarterbacks. I think Bobo is an excellent quarterbacks coach. But he’s inconsistent and impatient as a playcaller. It drives me crazy when something’s working and he goes away from it in some misguided attempt to keep his offense balanced. But to answer your question, I think Bobo’s fate is linked to that of Richt, his mentor. The only way I see Richt getting rid of Bobo is if Richt is told he needs to make a change in order to keep his job.

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AceDawg

August 28th, 2011
9:38 am

Yes, tv market reasons make sense for the SEC in its expansion consideration, but no I don’t think that is the right way to go about it – adding teams that have no cultural fit can create another ACC type league that has no identity. That said, VA Tech actually could fit SEC culture if they were integrated. Still, CLEMSON is the absolute best team when considering culture fit.

If anything, the SEC should ABANDON Vanderbilt (a perfect ACC school for basketball and football) as well as Miss St. (a team that seems to be more of a glorified community college) to pick up Clemson and Va Tech. Maybe an A&M as the third preference.

AceDawg

August 28th, 2011
9:40 am

Also, Bobo is definitely at the very best average. SEC coordinators should not be average if a team is expected to win championships. Grantham was a nice choice for defense as far as pedigree, and Richt should still MUST make a similar move for the offense if UGA somehow has a less than great season yet still retains Richt.

UGADawg83

August 28th, 2011
10:23 am

Why even publish questions similar to Wes Starr’s? The Bobo thing has been pounded to death. Bobo is our OC, Done deal. As Brucerugby79 says this blog is a true energy vampire. AJC–please, please, sack Bill King.

USC GAMEC0CK

August 28th, 2011
10:31 am

As long as Bobo is OC georgia will be mediocre so KEEP him
Grantham is a ZERO as DC so of course everyone in the SEC say….KEEP HIM

Nobody wants Richt to be canned because that would mean Bobo and Grantham get booted too

Advocati

August 28th, 2011
10:41 am

So . . . Most all agree A&M would be good addition competition and revenue-wise. That’s a solid addition to the West. The East is the real bugaboo. Forget breaking up the current divisions. Everyone in the SEC adds someting to the mix, so this nonsense about dropping someone is a waste of time.

The real query is: who to add? Although VT and WVU have their haters, both meet the competitive
and $ criteria. Both would be good additions for East. VT is closer travel-wise, but it’s not an easy choice.

USC GAMEC0CK

August 28th, 2011
10:51 am

Anyone advocating for West Virginia to be an SEC member does not know anything about college football expansion….the SEC will not add a school that is tier 3….won’t happen no way no how…period.

USC GAMEC0CK

August 28th, 2011
10:54 am

VT or Virginia or Maryland or UNC or NC State or Missouri…yes to any of them joining the SEC with Tamu…

no to clemp, fsu, gt, louisville, central fla, south fla and wvu

Beast from the East

August 28th, 2011
10:57 am

All of you folks against expansion probably felt the same way when it happened last time. Stop for a second and look how the conference has fared since then. It has totally EXPLODED! I was sceptical last time, but no one can argue with the results. The addition of Arky and SC enabled us to have a conference CG and that exposure helped put us over the top. Expansion is inevitbale. Let’s just hope Slive and the university presidents make the right choices for a long a prosperous future.

Thomas Brown

August 28th, 2011
11:25 am

11-3 Choke-la-homa 2007 now is some great NC contender Boise State beat ?

11-3 Virginia Tech 2010 now is some great NC contender Boise State beat # 16 AP Poll ?

5-7 Oregon State 2010 now is some great NC contender Boise State beat ?

10-3 Oregon 2009 now is some great NC contender Boise State beat ?

10-3 Oregon 2008 now is some great NC contender Boise State beat ?

10-4 Oregon State 2006 now is some great NC contender Boise State beat # 21 AP Poll ?

7-5 Oregon State 2004 now is some great NC contender Boise State beat ?

5-6 Oregon State 2005 now is some great NC contender Boise State beat ?

So, a 3-Loss team who didn’t beat anyone either and lost to all kinds of other teams, is the best Boise State can offer up. Sad.

USC GAMEC0CK

August 28th, 2011
11:34 am

Thomas Brown do us all a favor and don’t post any more….that post was like….huh?

the indiana of the sec

August 28th, 2011
11:36 am

who came up with that “energy vampire” slogan? probably the same person responsible for “the blackout”, “end zone dance”, and kicking the field goal against ucf. don’t see that kind of vision just anywhere. must be a georgia thing. you guys are blessed.

RedandBlackDAWG

August 28th, 2011
12:00 pm

Indiana of the SEC,

Every team takes on a slogan each year for each new campaign. I assume you are a tech. fan with your negtative posts, but that is to be expected from your likes. The “Energy Vampire”, is a good way, to pinpoint a slacker or someone who is maybe not giving 100%. UGA wants to remain positive and I think it is a good idea. The players buy into it, and since you and I are not on the field, it should not be a big concern of ours.

GO DAWGS and GATA

USC GAMEC0CK

August 28th, 2011
12:20 pm

Yo Dude

“Energy Vampire” is not a positive term…it focuses on the negative so you are wrong with your assessment of the term….but you are a dog fan so we all know you are not highly educated…so no worries.

still a dawg fan

August 28th, 2011
12:22 pm

I read in the Idaho Statesman Newspaper this morning that they are reporting that B. Boykin is texting their head coach Chris Petersen & daring him to kick to him.If it is true what are our guys doing texting the other teams head coach for & then taunting him Come on Coach M.R. I thought you had changed the culture.Put a stop to it

the indiana of the sec

August 28th, 2011
12:26 pm

and that surprises you?

Boise in ATL

August 28th, 2011
12:29 pm

@ Thomas Davis – with parity in college football – a double digit win season is impressive.

so – let’s apply your same logic to UGA:

2010 – A UGA team that went 6-7 – with losses to Colorado, University of Central Florida, a 5 losse South Carolina team (which suffured an embarrassing beat down loss to FSU in their bowl), a 5 loss Florida team. However, UGA did beat Tennessee – a team that ended the season 6-7.

2009 – A 5 loss UGA season – including losses to such traditional powerhouses – OK STATE, Kentucky and Lane Kiffin lead Tennessee!

2008 – Preseason #1 – blow losess to ALABAMA and FLORIDA where UGA’s resshirt team apparantly showed up to play – as the varsity was not seen the enitre game – and let’s not forget Paul Johnsons debut with GT vs UGAs – where UGA was totally blown out in the Second half. However, UGA did win 10 games – good thing GA Southern, Central MI, AZ STATE, VANDY and KY were on the schedule.

So – throwing it back at you – why should BOISE feel that we are not going to be competitive against UGA????

I am thinking Oregon (both times) and VT are currently more respected programs nationally than UGA – and confident both teams would have beaten UGA in those years.

However,I do think UGA has bottomed out and UGA should be better this year. But with all the changes and issues and new faces in key positions at UGA this year – it will take some time to jell.

UGA should have a good year – and after we beat UGA – Boise will need UGA to have a great year.

Boise in ATL

August 28th, 2011
12:35 pm

With Texas aTm to the SEC – VT would be the obvious choice.

If expanded to 16 teams – would like to see GT and BOISE!!!

USC GAMEC0CK

August 28th, 2011
1:25 pm

UGA better this year??

not without the “junk yard dawg” defense and with Grantham as DC…there is no chance the “junk yard dawg” defense returns this year.

and not with Bobo as the OC…

bugsquacher

August 28th, 2011
3:04 pm

I see where SI gave Craig James what he deserves in todays CNN football report. I hope he gets canned soon. what a jerk.

Expantionist

August 28th, 2011
3:14 pm

Bill,
But it is likely Missouri and Virginia Tech will both decline an SEC invite. The papers in both of those states were filled with such articles about 10 days ago. They really do not want to join the SEC for many reasons. So who would that leave? UGA, UF, USC, and KY will block the obvious decisions that all would be more likely to join the SEC. That seemingly would leave only West Virginia. Forget Oklahoma unless we also offer OkSt and it is possible even that combo could be declined since Oklahoma also seems more intent on staying with Big12 or moving to the PAC12. Beginning to look like WVU will be our only option unless the President can get one of the SEC blocking schools to relent. Obviously like you I do not want in state competition from GaTech.

Dirty Dawg

August 28th, 2011
4:29 pm

Not sure how a fourteen-team league would work, but assuming that there’s profit in numbers, it’ll probably be inevitable…and if it’s Clemson, what the hell. We’re already surrounded on three sides by an ‘orange’ team, might as well make it all four sides – at least then no matter which way we shoot we might hit one.

shankit

August 28th, 2011
4:39 pm

For balance, my first choice would be Georgia Tech,
my second choice would be Florida State
my third choice would be Virginia Tech.
No Oklahoma, let Stoops remain where he is.

Long Time DAWG Lover

August 28th, 2011
6:49 pm

In order to understand expansion, you have to forget rivalries because expansion is all about the money. And if people say it’s not about the money, it’s about the money.

The expansion crowd is looking at adding two huge markets in Houston and Dallas. Remember there are 25 million people in Texas. And the SEC will grow financially because ESPN and CBS will revise the existing contracts upward to accommodate whoever the 13th and 14th teams are.

I’m for expansion because it’s going to happen whether you or all the rest like it. Ultimately there will be four, sixteen team leagues and we, the SEC has to be competitive. We can’t sit still and rest on our laurels. The PAC – 12 has a huge contract with ESPN. Heretofore they had nothing.

So welcome South, rather welcome to the SEC, Aggies. Bring with you those folks in Texas.

I would expect that there will be a whole bunch of teams looking to join the SEC. Why wouldn’t they?

Steve

August 28th, 2011
7:12 pm

Arguments don’t line up.

Pick Texas A&M and Missouri for TV markets I understand. But by your own admission Clemson adds NOTHING to the conference … and quite frankly Florida State adds even less than Clemson form a money standpoint. Miami would be the better choice if going for a school from Florida due to the TV market.

If we go to 16 and take TAMU, VaTech, and Missouri, the last team would likely be either Virginia or Kansas. The FSU board has already shown thier disdain for joining the SEC, so I doubt they would change.

SuperB

August 28th, 2011
7:17 pm

Living in Southwest Virginia and a Georgia graduate– here’s what Virginia Tech brings to the SEC in terms of TV–
NOTHING. And their other sports are not up to most SEC standards.

The fan berating Florida State must be on something. Their program has been far more successful than the majority of SEC teams and they are good in the minor sports also.

The only schools that would help the SEC in terms of TV money are Oklahoma or Texas. Take A & M and one of them and the two Alabama schools move east.

Joe

August 28th, 2011
9:22 pm

If TAM and another mid west team come into the SEC and the SEC divides East and West…I guess Auburn and Alabama will be moved into the East Division. Is that what is needed?

Dawg Tell

August 28th, 2011
9:44 pm

I would like GT and FSU in the SEC.GT because of their history(put them in the east and we have a division win each year).FSU in the west and watch Bama and LSU sweat each year.

LakeDawg

August 28th, 2011
10:10 pm

@Beast from the East …The difference between the last expansion and this one is both ARK. and USC were from the southeast and had SEC football cultures. Texas A@M doesn’t fit that mold.

LakeDawg

August 28th, 2011
10:17 pm

Bill, thanks for the explanation. I see your point. I just wish more people wouldn’t see expansion as inevitable and would raise their voices in protest. Alas, I think I’m a dinosaur. The younger fan base doesn’t understand the SEC tradition. The SEC became powerful because it was a way to shine, when the rest of the country looked down on the south. SEC teams took pride in being from the south and whipping teams from other parts of the country. That’s the origin of SEC pride (even though, apparently, a lot of people don’t realize it) and the reason fans chant SEC! and pull for other SEC teams. You don’t see that with any other conference.

Bama Fan#2

August 28th, 2011
10:58 pm

Virginia Tech would be a better team for the SEC to get to join. Clemson has great
passion from the fans but are a 500 team most of the time. VT and the vols will
great rivals in the east and Texas AM would be great in the west for LSU. RTR

Thomas Brown

August 29th, 2011
1:42 am

Boise in ATL,

There is no parity in college football.

Boise State fans have NEVER said there is parity in college football.

Quit with all this BS about Boise State and double-digit win seasons and about Boise State ranks this in NCAA stats.

What Boise State puts forth is that there is no parity in college football. That it is unfair that Boise State doesn’t get to play a really good team, anytime – never. That you are locked out of such games. That there really is no parity. That the BCS cheats Boise State out of those games. That Boise State would win those games.

I see no reply to the actual 8 wins Boise State ever has had against any of the 6 BCS Conferences, the best of which 3-loss, Top 25 type program at best.

You see ? Beating UGA a 7-loss team about the 7th best in The SEC, is no great National Championship Contender either. Is it ?

Your football program, your players, your coaching staff and your blogs which allow no opinion other than Boise State is GREAT beyond measure and would have won all these national championships you state repeatedly to us and how great you are, as you repeatedly say to us – are all a hoax.

You know that.

So, why all this Boise State is so great stuff. If you beat UGA, we will not be ranked. We are # 22 and # 19 today. If we beat you, you will be not ranked. 1 team is full of hot air.

I have produced over the last few days for you to review, the in-depth analysis of what Boise State in fact has accomplished.

Weak teams, is who you only have beat.

No great team have you beat.

No national title contender as you try to paint them all as having been.

And, NEITHER is UGA.

It is not that UGA is so great, as your post addresses – we are not, it is that Boise State is NOT GREAT.

Welcome to our blogs where, guess what ?

We can tell you that.

Get used to it. Until you beat a truly great team, you are just a team who chooses not to answer the Big XII’s request for a team to come join their conference.

You know what that is ? Because you like playing the # 81 team, 10 times a season and that in your tough seasons. PTFO

Thomas Brown

August 29th, 2011
1:57 am

SuperB,

That is the problem. Alabama in The SEC East when we ALREADY over the last 5 years are only 13-12 vs SEC East. We can’t beat the teams in The SEC East as it is. Down as they ALL are. It really doesn’t matter that no one of the 25 population turns their TV set on to watch Texas A and M have a LOSING RECORD all this century against the Big XII, the Big East, the Pac-12, the ACC and The SEC. All it takes is 4 SEC teams of the 12 to vote NO and it is OVER. Do you hear that SuperB, sir, OVER. We can vote that way, whether you like it or not, want to ignore it or not that somehow someone does want to turn their TV on in Texas to watch Texas A and M LOSE every game to The SEC. We can VOTE NO because we know what, yes, means.

You can act like it is all about money, all you want. We can get new TV contracts today. And, don’t have to add a nobody football team like Texas A and M has proved that they are all this century. And, that is a team that cannot beat The SEC. How does a Big XII team, who has a losing record in the Big XII all century long, project to be # 7 in The SEC, again ? I missed that. But, for that, I have to accept Alabama over to The SEC East.

BS

Coastal Dog SSI

August 29th, 2011
6:45 am

Clemson, not VA Tech, and Florida State in the East and Texas A & M and Missouri in the West. THE Superconference!

Atlanta Gator

August 29th, 2011
9:22 am

“Rather not expand, if we must then Texas A&M and Oklahoma, move Auburn to East, A&M is the Houston market and OK brings Dallas to the table. Why would USC or FL want their main rival in the SEC to share in state recruits? WVU, VA Tech will not help with TV nearly as much as the rabid college football fans in Texas, great talent in state for all SEC to recruit.”

Incorrect, sir! Florida already shares the state of Florida with FSU for purposes of recruiting. In the minds of a bunch of 17-year-old Florida high school football players, FSU is again a destination because FSU has a new dynamic coach. Remember the 1990s? FSU more than held its own in in-state recruiting; only after Bowden’s program hit the skids in the 2000s did Florida enjoy a big recruiting advantage.

University of Florida decision-makers have repeatedly stated that they do not and would not object to FSU joining the SEC. Florida supported FSU for SEC membership in the early 1990s. It would not change the in-state recruiting battles, but it would make Florida’s sports scheduling much simpler, and force FSU to bear the same SEC burden of competition that Florida does. Here’s the real problem: FSU doesn’t want to deal with having to play Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Georgia, LSU, South Carolina, Tennessee AND Florida on a regular basis. When Bobby Bowden was among the FSU decision-makers, he publicly said as much. FSU has a much clearer path to a conference championship and a BCS bowl berth in the ACC. It’s doubtful the FSU powers-that-be are going to change their minds, especially with FSU’s football program in rebuilding mode.

Atlanta Gator

August 29th, 2011
9:28 am

BTW, I am fully in favor of adding Texas A&M to the SEC. Texas A&M currently has one of the strongest overall athletic programs in the country (look at the Directors’ Cup standings), and will probably have the second or third football team in the Big XII in 2011. The Aggies would more than hold their own in sports other than football, and SEC competition would likely elevate their football program. They are well-supported by their alumni and very competitive. Adding the Aggies is easy. My question is who becomes the 14th SEC member to balance the admission of Texas A&M? That’s a much harder question to answer . . . .

obama sin laden

August 29th, 2011
9:31 am

leave well enough alone. don’t fix what aint broke. leave clems-son in the crap hole(All Chump Conference) their in. they will cheapen the SEC. as will those other mentions. just improve on what is in place in the Super Elite Conference.

armydawg478

August 29th, 2011
9:51 am

yes. i think clemson, florida state, texas a&m would all be great additions to the conference. also move vandy west and add VT

schmeckdawg

August 29th, 2011
9:55 am

Back in the day before we added Rkansas and South Carolina, I always wished that we could swap out Vandy for Clemson.

I loved that UGA-Clemson rivalry every year.

As far as the unis go and I am a huge DAWG fan, but I’ve got to give the advantage to the ponies. I think what we’ll be wearing is nauseating!

Atlanta Gator

August 29th, 2011
10:08 am

“Back in the day before we added Rkansas and South Carolina, I always wished that we could swap out Vandy for Clemson.”

Vanderbilt was one of the 13 founding members of the SEC. Other than football, Vanderbilt has a consistently stronger athletic program than Clemson, and Clemson hasn’t done much in football in the last 30 years, either. Trading Vandy for Clemson would be like trading an eccentric, but brilliant sister for Cousin It.

BMOC

August 29th, 2011
10:17 am

I can understand wanting to expand market but diluting a conference because of greed is the WRONG way. Expanding should be based on the QUALITY of likely candidates, not revenue, but we all know that $$$ rules the same people that condemn players selling jerseys.
We need a REAL OC. The sooner RIcht takes back over this responsibility the sooner UGA will succeed.
Not sure I like he UGA Pro-Combat uniforms but I don’t hate them either — I’m especially not sold on the red pants. I thought it was smart of Richt to take the GA football team to the GA dome with their new uniforms before the game to get the ‘gitteries’ out — hopefully they can come out there Sat & concentrate on football.

schmeckdawg

August 29th, 2011
10:23 am

@ Atlanta Gator: You say “Clemson hasn’t done much in football in the last 30 years either.”

My question to you is what has Vanderbilt ever done? And I am not talking about going to The Peach Bowl once. I am just saying Clemson would be a great fit regionally if we needed to add a 14th team.

Florida State isn’t coming, and Va. Tech is a slim possibility and would be great because they would expose the SEC to that DC area TV market.

Anyway, Vandy isn’t going anywhere and we will see who we add when A&M joins up.

BIG Joe

August 29th, 2011
10:31 am

Atlanta Gator

Clemson capacity is 80,301
Vandy capacity is 39,790

Do the math. IF not, find a UGA grad that can do it for you.

Evansdawg

August 29th, 2011
10:41 am

The only way it would make sense for Clemson to come into the SEC would be to replace South Carolina and that isn’t happening. BUT….between the two Clemson would fit within the SEC better than South Carolina. Clemson has much more tradition and have historically been a better program than SC. Plus, the Clemson and UGA rivalry was irreplaceable. I miss it every single year.

Answer the question

August 29th, 2011
10:53 am

Clemson for the SEC?
No.

The TV market for SC is glued into SC football and Clemson would not add many more viewers. SC also has fans in Greenville, Spartanburg Columbia and Charleston.

SEC would benefit greatly by adding A&M, which brings us the Houston market and Dallas, and Oklahoma University would bolster those markets, as Oklahoma recruits Texas more than they do the state of Oklahoma. Two excellent addtions. It is about $$ and thye bring money. Period. Game over.

GT and Clemson and NC State ( laughable that assertion was ) and any other ACC school would be a waste of time. Frankly, adding in Texas Tech would be cool. They would bring us sparsely populated central and West Texas. They also have a coach that was in the SEC …………..TT.

Go Dogs.

Reality

August 29th, 2011
11:17 am

Too funny how all of you SEC folks want ACC schools. Keep wanting and wishing cause it ain’t gonna happen! None of us would lower ourselves to join the Scandal unEthical Conference.

Besides, we have the largest per school dollar share for the year among ALL conferences. Why would anyone leave more money for less money?????

You SEC folks are so full of yourselves!

AceDawg

August 29th, 2011
11:47 am

Adding a couple major teams like Oklahoma (which I don’t like for culture reasons anyway) and FSU would make the conference pretty brutal. If these types of moves are going to happen, there needs to be a college football playoff system that allows teams with tough schedules to still compete for the NC even if they lose a couple games versus teams with weaker schedules that lose none or one.

schmeckdawg

August 29th, 2011
12:08 pm

Reality

August 29th, 2011
11:17 am
Too funny how all of you SEC folks want ACC schools. Keep wanting and wishing cause it ain’t gonna happen! None of us would lower ourselves to join the Scandal unEthical Conference.

Besides, we have the largest per school dollar share for the year among ALL conferences. Why would anyone leave more money for less money?????

You SEC folks are so full of yourselves!

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Let’s see, North Carolina, Miami, Florida State excuse me Free Shoes University, and Clemson in the past.

Yeah, you have a real valid argument!

PonGT

August 29th, 2011
12:11 pm

Just watched the nike video and finally saw what everyone has been telling me … the horrid new uniform for the chik-fil-a game. So where does Nike get off on trying to tell UGA how their uniforms should look … but ‘whatever nike wants nikle gets’. REALLY? Well here’s what all bulldawg fans should do … boycott NIKE … buy UA; buy reebok; buy anything but nike … we all should let those oregon commies know not to mess with Georgia’s Red and Black!

TROJAN

August 29th, 2011
12:49 pm

The expansion is just watering down the conference in order to help out ESPN and the executives.

Texas A&M, wow, don’t that excite everyone?

TROJAN

August 29th, 2011
12:51 pm

Who is getting money from Nike? CMR? The AD? The school? Why would a college team bow down and dress in tacky uniforms?