Simply Saturday: Adding some Dawgs to list of college-only legends

Simply Saturday: David Greene left college as the winningest quarterback, but didn't achieve NFL stardom. (Associated Press)

Simply Saturday: David Greene left college as the winningest quarterback, but didn't achieve NFL stardom. (Associated Press)

ESPN.com spent the past week trotting out its Simply Saturday series, a countdown of the 50 greatest college players who didn’t go on to become great NFL players.

Ohio State’s Archie Griffin topped the list, which was heavy on names from Notre Dame, Nebraska, Oklahoma and FSU. Strangely, only five SEC players were included, and three of them were from Auburn.

No Georgia Bulldogs made the list, possibly because many of UGA’s best-known players have gone on to long and occasionally even stellar careers in pro football. But ESPN SEC blogger Chris Low did include a couple of Bulldog defensive legends on his own Simply Saturday list: David Pollack, whose NFL career was ended prematurely by a neck injury, and Scott Woerner, who played mainly in the USFL after a brief stint in the NFL.

I’m not sure it’s really fair for a list of Simply Saturday stars to include players like Pollack or running back Robert Edwards, who might well have had hugely successful NFL careers had they not fallen victim to injuries, but there are quite a few other Bulldogs who achieved All-America status in college and yet didn’t make much of a name in the NFL.

Like linemen Ray Rissmiller, George Patton and Joel Parrish, for instance. And defensive backs Jeff Sanchez, Bill Krug and, more recently, Greg Blue, who’s been playing in Canada. And All-America running back Tim Worley, who showed promise as an NFL rookie but saw his career fall off quickly amid injuries and suspensions.

And then there are the Dawgs who didn’t make the All-America lists but won plenty of college plaudits that didn’t translate into NFL success, like All-SEC running backs Willie McClendon and Musa Smith, and quarterbacks Eric Zeier and David Greene.

In fact, you can make a good case that Greenie really should have been included in ESPN’s Simply Saturday Top 50, since he finished at UGA as the then all-time winningest college football quarterback but never got to play in a regular season game during his brief career as an NFL backup. If that’s not Simply Saturday material, what is?

Feel free to share your thoughts on any other Dogs who ought to make a list of Simply Saturday legends.

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" HOT " seat

July 2nd, 2011
10:43 am

Gotta beat Boise State in the GEORGIA dome.

sUGAr_daddy_DAWG

July 2nd, 2011
10:47 am

My first first?

chilidawg

July 2nd, 2011
10:49 am

do the work, dawgs.

chazzo

July 2nd, 2011
10:52 am

I’d put Tardits on the list. The guy was from France. Didn’t he go play Australian rules football or was it rugby?

Ceasar

July 2nd, 2011
11:03 am

Jiggy Smaha 65-67

Bulldog Arch

July 2nd, 2011
11:03 am

dawgfan

July 2nd, 2011
11:08 am

Greene never got any recognition from ESPN when he was playing at UGA. Why start now? We won 44 games in 4 seasons and all they wanted to talk about was USC. They still insist that 2004 USC was the greatest assemblage of carbon based life forms in the history of the universe, despite scraping by Pac 10 weaklings like Stanford and UCLA throughout that entire season. LA really needs an NFL team so ESPN can get off USC’s sack once and for all.

Thanks.

Charlotte

July 2nd, 2011
11:08 am

What about Fred Gibson?

Blindog

July 2nd, 2011
11:12 am

I thought for sure David Grean would have some success in the NFL.Wonder why it never happened?

Dawg Days

July 2nd, 2011
11:15 am

Charlotte, what about Fred Gibson???, he’s gotta be your husband, or son, or brother, to suggest Freddie “drop the ball” Gibson as one of the 50 greatest college players……………………… !!!

wreckmaniac

July 2nd, 2011
11:19 am

Donnan’s bankrupt. Hate to hear that. He was the only decent coach UGA ever had. 40 wins- 19 losses. Why was he ever fired ? Or did he just get sick of it ?

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 2nd, 2011
11:22 am

Bill

You stated “Strangely, only five SEC players were included, and three of them were from Auburn”

The answer. Northeast media bias. They hate the SouthEast and it was them who kept Southeast teams out of a championship games if they could for years if Nuter Dam, Michigan, Ohio State Michigan State etc were any good.

The SEC doing good in sports is like having them eat a bar soap for food

Ludakit

July 2nd, 2011
11:38 am

You guys do realize it’s not a very complimentary list to be added to, right? There’s no West Coast or Northeast Bias on this one. More UGA players not on this list means two things:

1) Most Dawgs who play in the NFL achieve a certain level of success not considered to be a disappointment (good thing).

2) Not many Dawgs have careers like Pollack, Greene, Edwards, etc. (not necessarily a bad thing, it’s just a reality that once-a-generation players come once a generation)

Pollack even said himself yesterday that Low’s list is one he didn’t like being included on. It’s not a good list folks. Let Auburn, USC, Notre Dame and the rest take up as much space as possible.

supsalemgr

July 2nd, 2011
11:40 am

A little off topic. However, I keeep hearing rumors about Texas A&M and the SEC. I undertsand the Aggies are not pleased with the “sweetheart” deal the Big 12 gave Texas. The balance would be pretty easy as Clemson would jump at a chance to join the SEC.

Boneless

July 2nd, 2011
11:45 am

Gordon ely-kelso

Randall "Pink" Floyd

July 2nd, 2011
12:19 pm

Greene got plenty of pub while he was in college. No disrepect, whatsoever. Nowhere near enough armstrength to be effective in the pros.

Something else the SEC leads the nation in...

July 2nd, 2011
12:24 pm

Paul in RDU

July 2nd, 2011
12:30 pm

Bill – If it wouldn’t be fair to list David Pollack or Robert Edwards, how fair was it for ESPN to list Charlie Ward? He had a pretty successful pro career, albeit in basketball and not football.

chazzo

July 2nd, 2011
12:38 pm

Ludakit, you have a point. I think it is also a testament, though, to a good college guy and a good NFL guy are two entirely different animals. How many NCAA championship QBs end up starting in the NFL?

Another thing to which it is a testament is the nature of the job. Playing in the NFL is a professional career. It takes a special kind of obsession to take that beating for a living. Some of these guys make enough scratch in their first season to never have to work again. Where is the motivation?

That’s life. Only the very few are going to become the superstars out of a very select group of players. Let’s face it. For the vast majority of college players, that is all they will ever be. It is the end of the road. It is also quite an achievement to make it to the college level. Most guys that play college ball aren’t even going to play in Canadian or arena ball.

Honestly, it is what I love about college football. Despite the big star players who granted win championships, the heart of college ball is all the guys who have earned the right to play for their school, the guys who will never get to play at any higher level, the guys to whom it means a lot more than the NFL minor league.

DAWGS forever

July 2nd, 2011
12:55 pm

Donnan was a fit at Georgia like Rich Rod was at Michigan. Sorry to hear of his $ troubles but over all liked him. I’m thankful for Richt for sure but at the time I didn’t like it since Donnan had been a winner and was recruiting great.

Greene is the one who deserves to be on the list.

Go DAWGS!

Ya'll are funny (you UGA people)

July 2nd, 2011
1:11 pm

Something else to whine about!

old time dog

July 2nd, 2011
1:22 pm

Ya’ll are funny….. See how funny we are to you when we trash you on the football field, again and again and again,etc.

It Ain't Rocket Science

July 2nd, 2011
1:42 pm

I tend to discount anything that comes out of ESPN. It is a shame that there are not other sports channel with some good money to compete with them. One thing it does do though, is give them a monopoly in some of their bone headed predicitions and reportings. No one else, even the fans, would go along with some of the crap they come up with.

It Ain't Rocket Science

July 2nd, 2011
1:45 pm

David green was great because he was such an effective leader for UGA. A smart young man with complete game control. He wasn’t gifted with the most pure athletic ability, but he was a leader and could motivate his team. I would think someday down the road, that young man could be a great coach.

dont get it

July 2nd, 2011
1:49 pm

Terrance Edwards?

dont get it

July 2nd, 2011
1:50 pm

joey T the 3rd!

WashedUp List

July 2nd, 2011
1:59 pm

Take off the red and black colored glasses. David Greene would be the only one close to making that list. It’s a college (all) legends list. Not a UGA “washed up” list. In all seriousness, Joe Hamilton from Tech comes closer to anyone you mentioned and I wouldn’t suggest that he should be on it.

Sicker every day

July 2nd, 2011
2:04 pm

The athletic history of UGA is full of so many sordid, sleazy incidents – dating back to Vince Dooley and continuing through Mark Richt – that it’s impossible to overlook. The school has come to stand for drunkenness and lawlessness, coddling of illiterate athletes who should never have been admitted to college, and rampant cheating by coaches.

Sickening, isn’t it?

RxDawg

July 2nd, 2011
2:11 pm

David Greene is the first name I thought of.

And although he’s not a Dawg, Danny Weurfle (spelling?).

old time dog

July 2nd, 2011
2:15 pm

Sicker every day… You need to try to remember to take your pychotrophic meds and quit stressing out over the pitiful nature of your football program. Sorbid and sleazy are just probably references to your own family. Sickening, isn’t it?

Richmond Hill

July 2nd, 2011
2:24 pm

As a general rule ESPN has never liked Georgia for some reason. Never can understand why. But watching their analysts in the fall, UGA never seems to get much respect. That Herb Kirkstreet, or whatever his name is, relentlessly seems to be anti-Georgia, assumedly because UGA beat him in a bowl game when he was the QB at Ohio State. Plus the black analyst who works with him, can’t recall his name, always to cut Georgia very little slack. Conversely, they seem to drool all over the marquee programs like Alabama and Florida and LSU, possibly because their their coaches are always good press, particularly Saban (both at LSU and Alabama), Meyer and certainly Spurrier when he was at Florida.

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 2nd, 2011
2:58 pm

Ludakit

I do realize that its not a list to be on but again who’s your #1 player on there. Archie Griffin, 2 time heisman winner really 2 time heisman what a joke look at his numbers and he is a 2 time winner there’s a clear example of bias right there

But again the SEC is littered with great college players that never made it in the pro’s and to have a top 50 and only have 5 is a joke and nothing but the media anti SEC crap.

and CHEEZO shut your mouth, I could say Paul Bear Bryant was the greatest coach in CFB history which he was and you would argue that because I said it

Fred

July 2nd, 2011
3:05 pm

Why is Ernie Davis on the list?

Fred

July 2nd, 2011
3:07 pm

RX Dawg: Wuerffel is number 16 on that list.

Paul in RDU

July 2nd, 2011
3:26 pm

Flat Tire
I must be missing something – you are claiming that the fact that there are only 5 ex-SEC players on this list (one that no-one wants to be on) shows that ESPN is biased AGAINST SEC players? Somehow, I don’t think that David Greene and David Pollack (2 all-time great college players who did nothing in the pros) are unhappy that they are not on the list.

Take Zeier off your list

July 2nd, 2011
3:38 pm

While Eric Zeier did not make it to the Super Bowl, you may have forgotten he was the No. 1 rated quarterback in the NFL while with the Cleveland Browns. He was in the league for 5-6 years, much as a backup, but he was successful for a short stint.

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 2nd, 2011
3:51 pm

Paul in RDU and anyone else

You are missing it

These are considered great athletes of college football. Which means those athletes they list would be good had they have played in the SEC

Stop and think for a minute, for example Troy Smith, Heisman winner at Ohio State, remember how bad he looked against a REAL defense when he played FL in the NC game

Here’s another Ron Dayne oh Ron Dayne will have a field day against UGA ESPN analyst said. What was the result 36 yds rushing against UGA

The list is saying that SEC does not have as many good quality ball players compared to every other league whether they made it in the NFL or not

Some players dont make it do to injury, scandle, lack of motivation,

archaeopat

July 2nd, 2011
4:00 pm

Don Porterfield is my choice.

Charlotte

July 2nd, 2011
4:05 pm

DawgDays: Calm down. No, I am not related to Fred Gibson. Nor was I suggesting he was one of the 50 greatest college players ever. He did, however, fit the category of great Bulldogs who didn’t make it in the pros. And yes, he dropped a few but he was a great receiver.

UGA? R U Kidding?

July 2nd, 2011
4:12 pm

Bill, don’t forget Demetre Baker, Tavarres King, Wahshaun Ealey, Alec Ogletree and Dontavius Jackson!

wreckmaniac

July 2nd, 2011
4:16 pm

Thats a nice-looking indoor practice facility at Tech. Why can’t UGA pull this off ? Maybe the recruits from the past two years cost too much ?

tar and feathers party

July 2nd, 2011
4:16 pm

Is this the same David Green who is now an Avon salesman? Ding Dong, Avon Calling! he he ha ha

wreckmaniac

July 2nd, 2011
4:17 pm

Come on people. We all know Qunicy Carter leads this list. Why am I having to remind you ?

tar and feathers party

July 2nd, 2011
4:21 pm

Quincy (sniff, sniff) Carter…..he he ha ha

tar and feathers party

July 2nd, 2011
4:22 pm

Don’t several former ugag players now make commercial homoerotic porn videos? Just askin’

Paul in RDU

July 2nd, 2011
4:36 pm

Flat Tire
You can read the ESPN list any way you want but there appears to be a heck of a chip you have on your shoulder.

Einsteindawg

July 2nd, 2011
5:20 pm

Just saw where Donnan filed BK…who would lend that dumb SOB $10M? He was a great recruiter (Seymour, Stitch, Champ, Grant, Hines…all future HOF, NFL), and probably needs a job. Why not replace Rodney Garner with him? Bet we can get him for less money, too.

Einsteindawg

July 2nd, 2011
5:27 pm

Thanks archaeopat for reminding us about Don Porterfield. He was a great athlete as well as a RB. He was the Jake Scott of the ’60s.

italian_29

July 2nd, 2011
6:11 pm

@WRECKMANIA, Yeah we all know Quincy Carter tops the list of KILLING your bugs.

RetroDawg

July 2nd, 2011
6:31 pm

The only thing that UGA lost in A.J. Green was one of the biggest thugs in UGA history.

Give him one year in the NFL, and he’ll be behind bars. Wave to him when you pass the chain gang.

Rabun Dawg

July 2nd, 2011
7:06 pm

Sicker every day, you are a sick puppy. You comments read like some bitter person who probably rants about anything that doesn’t go your way. I would like to think that you do not speak for the majority of the people of whatever Univ. you choose to support. Probably not fair to judge you this way, but I suspect you are a fan of a certain Institute located in Atlanta. You need an “attitude adjustment”, my man.

Brucerugby79

July 2nd, 2011
8:18 pm

Chazzo ReeeChard played Rugby-(for UGA as well) and he had a long NFL career—and as great a guy as you will ever meet–He was a back in Rugby thought he would be the next Herschel-but his quickness served him well as a sacker

tar and feathers party

July 2nd, 2011
9:02 pm

UGAG linemen gotta oil up for their homoerotic porno shoots!

SSIgator

July 2nd, 2011
9:54 pm

Bill King -

After reading some of the posts on this article, you think some of mine are bad??? What a joke. If you are selective about what posts you delete based on their school affiliation then you truly do not want comments. Just write the article and end it with “comments closed” instead. Leave this up for another 48 hours or so and you might reach 100 hits. Do you actually have an income stream for this?

Bitter trolls

July 2nd, 2011
10:29 pm

GOD say’s shut the f—- up trolls———your killing me with this crazy spuu——-go back

———to your wal-mart job “@tar and feathers————-@einstiendawg—–charlotte

——————————freaks

Saban

July 2nd, 2011
11:34 pm

Actually the whole team that dressed in those cute little black uniforms the last time I was in Athens. So many wins had to remember was it 31-0 at halftime.

Boise State 66 Dawgs3

Thomas Brown

July 3rd, 2011
2:13 am

David Greene’s wounded ducks were not much in college. He ended his career having played more games, and of course as the Starter at Quarterback – not unlike Aaron Murray; but strangely we have a completely different set of rules for what makes Aaron Murray the greatest quarterback, ever. Aaron Murray, you might recall has a Losing Record as a Starter and is 0-5 vs teams who finished in the AP Poll Top 25. In fact, Aaron Murray Lost 2 games vs teams who did not finish in the AP Poll Top 25. We say that David Greene was great as a Quarterback – because of his record as the Starter – but we say Aaron Murray is great despite his record. Clearly, this dichotomous position by us on this point, is inconsistent. Aaron Murray played against 1 team who ended the season in the AP Poll Top 10 and Lost. David Greene in his 4 years as our Starter, beat a team who finished # 4 in the AP Poll, the vols in 2001. Knocked the lid off this program with that win; and Lost 4 games the same season of 2001. David Greene never did beat a team who finished in the Top 10 AP Poll ever again. David Greene, not unlike Aaron Murray, Lost to teams who did not finish in the AP Poll Top 25, such as Florida 2002 and such as Colorado for Aaron Murray 2010. Greene, you recall was 0-11 on 3rd Down Conversions vs Florida 2002, including that wounded duck he threw over the head of a wide open receiver to end the Florida Loss 2002. If we are to set up a set of criteria for which a Quarterback here is great, then we have to apply the same rules to the next one we also then call great by the same standards. Neither will go on to do anything in the pros. And, of course, I submit neither is great.

Thomas Brown

July 3rd, 2011
2:24 am

I noticed Georgia tek built an Indoor Football Practice Facility, wasted $ 9 million dollars on a Quonset Hut with glass, and could not even put in a football field of 100 yards. Maybe had you invested just one more million, $10 million dollars, you could have built a real football field instead of just a 90-yard football field. 90-yard football field – how stupid is that for $ 9 million dollars Georgia tek ?

Thomas Brown

July 3rd, 2011
2:58 am

Jim Donnan had 19 Losses in his 5 years here, for which we fired him. We didn’t want to settle for 19 Losses over a 5-year period, which was # 19 in the nation in Won/Lost Record 1996-2000 for Jim Donnan, now bankrupt. Mark Richt has 21 Losses his last 5 years here 2006-2010, which is # 23 in the nation in Won/Lost Record over these last 5 years, average in Excess of 4 Losses per Season over these last 5 years.

19 Losses 5 years Jim Donnan – for which we Fired him

21 Losses last 5 years Mark Richt – for which he is the greatest coach in the nation

Or, is it winning doesn’t matter. Mark Richt is a nice guy.

David Pollack gets cut some slack for his tackle as a linebacker in the NFL without having played the position in college, and the injury as a direct result – thankful that it wasn’t a worse injury. He was sure fun to watch in college on the DL. David Greene never was on any All-America List in college. Including him therefore is a joke. Judge Aaron Murray by the same standards. Herschel Walker had several Pro Bowl seasons in the NFL and ended his career # 17 on the All-Time All-Purpose Yards in the NFL; so, obviously he doesn’t deserve to be on the list. Little Joey Hamilton ? All anyone will ever remember about him was Paul Johnson hiring Little Joey Hamilton as Paul Johnson’s Director of Player Personnel Development and that Little Joey Hamilton promptly went out and spent his 1st Paul Johnson paycheck on drugs found in his vehicle on a hit and run downtown where he was drunk in an accident he fled the scene and left the drugs in his ashtray – smart ? Nice Director of Player Personnel Development Paul Johnson – Little Joey Hamilton.

It Ain't Rocket Science

July 3rd, 2011
5:43 am

Thomas Brown,

Who is the all time winning coach at UGA with 5 years of more head coaching?
Who has the best bowl winning percentage of all UGA coaches with 5 or more years at UGA?
Who has been to a bowl game every year he has been a coach at UGA?
Give you a hint, his initials are CMR.
Statistics are interesting in that you can manipulate them anyway you want to oppose or support you point. Taking half of a coaches career, and using just those statistics for those years, supports your point. Using the statistics for 10 years opposes your point.

Thomas Brown

July 3rd, 2011
5:55 am

Last Five (5) Years :

56-9 Ohio State
56-12 Florida
61-5 Boise State
55-10 TCU
54-15 Oklahoma
52-16 Virginia Tech
51-14 Southern California
50-15 LSU
50-15 Texas
50-15 BYU
49-16 Wisconsin
49-16 West Virginia
50-15 Utah
49-18 Alabama on the field
48-16 Oregon
48-19 Missouri
47-18 Penn State
46-18 Auburn
46-22 Hawaii
45-20 Cincinnati
45-21 Boston College
45-20 Texas Tech
44-21 Georgia Mark Richt last 5 years # 23 Win %

Rocket man, 5 years is a long time to have to look past, to try to tell me a guy who has a 17-24 record against teams finishing in the Top 25 AP Poll over 10 years time, a guy who has a 3-9 record against teams finishing in the Top 10 AP Poll over 10 years time and those only 3 wins were in seasons he Lost 4, 3, and 4 games (meaning he never has had a great year against great teams), and a guy who has Lost 10 games in 10 years to teams who did not even finish in the Top 25 AP Poll over 10 years time, is somehow the greatest coach ever. Why then is he on the hot seat and why then did you mention 5 years twice and neither time the in fact mention the last 5 years – you know, NOW.

It Ain't Rocket Science

July 3rd, 2011
7:49 am

Thomas,

You mentioned the 5 year period. I believe a coach should be judged over his entire period of work. Like I said you can twist statisitics around to support you anyway you want. How about, he has 2 SEC titles, and 3 SEC east titles in those ten years. If you are expecting for every year to be successful to your expectations, I don’t imagine any coach will measure up to your standards. Football is a game and a coach, although he can try the best he wants, can not control injuries, attitudes and a host of other things that can affect a teams performance. You point to the last five years and say he is 23 in winning percentage. According to another poll, he is nbr 8 in winning percentage all time, for coaches still active today. I get that you don’t like CMR and that is your choice. But if you are going to rely on statistics alone, there is always going to be an opposite figure that can be used to support or oppose your reasoning.
This year will determine most likely whether CMR is with UGA or not and my belief is that UGA will do pretty well. Your belief is different, and you are entitled to your belief as well. Let’s see how the season plays out rather than condemn the man before the season is even played.

Hardtruth Soldier

July 3rd, 2011
8:02 am

Simple, down South the vast majority go pro! Why do ESPN(Exceptionally Soft and Punked Network. ) hate to see them SEC Boys? Because those analyst be saying damn that shoulda been me playing, instead I went to Indiana Weslyen and we got the crap kicked out of us. Oh back to the main subject.. Hate UF, But Chris Leak has got to be the most devalued Nat’l Championship QB EVER IN THE SEC. Damn people do ya’ll realize it wasn’t Tim Tebow that started that on that O6 team. What a disgrace not to honor the guy, but Tebow get’s a key to the city. I guess when Black folks say racism they have a point. Don’t they?

Bronco Fan

July 3rd, 2011
8:37 am

Boise State 222, Georgia 0

old time dog

July 3rd, 2011
8:51 am

It Ain’t Rocket Science…. Whoa nellie!!!! A coach can’t control attitudes? He might not can control them but he sure as hell can influence them. Mr. Richt better redevote himself to trying to actually be involved and in charge of this team while it is under hia watch.

Thomas Brown

July 3rd, 2011
9:05 am

I am judging him over his entire period of work.

3-9 vs teams finished Top 10 AP Poll all 10 years

10 Losses to teams finished not Top 25 AP Poll 10 years

no bowl win against team finished Top 10 AP Poll all 10 yrs

# 2 All-Time Fulmer Cup Standings – Mark Richt

His 2 best years 2002 – only other SEC Coaches’ Poll Top 25 # 14 Auburn

2007 – LSU had 2 wins over teams finished Top 10

(1) Mark Richt has never had a great year & beat team finished Top 10

(2) How great were 2002 and 2007, therefore Rocket man ?

Bad publicity, that is all we get around here – Mark Richt

# 7 average rank recruiting, averaging both Rivals and Scout.com all 11 classes

Only 3 other states with more hs recruits who go on to the NFL

8 games under .500 all 10 years vs teams finished Top 25 AP Poll

- nice guy, like the guy as a person

Excuses, litany of Excuses for fact Jim Donnan Lost 19 his 5 years

Mark Richt WORSE than Jim Donnan these last 5 years

When you can bring yourself to face Jim Donnan’s recruits WON here

Mark Richt’s the last 5 years, have been MISERABLE on & off the field

Won’t hear me HYPE coaching staff of Mark Richt, nor his recruits

Recruits, you give him credit for, but Fail to hold him responsible for

I actually want BETTER than 10-4 this season

10 cupcakes we play this season, 10

Mark Richt 4th best coach in his own Conference these last 10 years

Exhibit (A) We lose to 1 team not finishing AP Top 25 every year on avg all 10 yr
Exhibit (B) We lose to 9 of 12 teams finishing AP Top 10 all 10 years

Therefore, Mark Richt Loses to the cupcakes, bad losses 1 a year for 10 years

Mark Richt also, therefore, does not and cannot beat the truly great teams

We ARE whether you ever admit it here and complete and utter AFTERTHOUGHT on the national stage. At the end of the season when elite teams beat a team finishing in the AP Poll Top 10, under Mark Richt – we are NOWHERE to be found, not this coming season and in NONE of the previous 10 years of the Mark Richt regime of his poor hires as his “coaching staff.”

# 52 Total Offense average all 10 years here of Mark Richt

We cannot beat our way out of a wet paper bag. I am NOT satisfied, and you ARE.

ray goff for next coach

July 3rd, 2011
9:18 am

outstanding analysis, Thomas Brown. But the CMR cult ain’t listening. Personally, i hope he stays. Guess it’s the voyeur in me; i like watching rednecks make fools of themselves.

Thomas Brown

July 3rd, 2011
9:27 am

Rocket man’s litany of Excuses

include that

Mark Richt gets credit for his recruiting, which is NOT Top 5 this 2011 Signing Class, according to Scout.com

But, that he is NOT RESPONSIBLE for their ATTITUDES

The very essence of any coach is motivation of his team to a goal

But, if your only reason to write on AJ-C blogs is to SUPPORT Mark Richt’s hires on his “coaching staff” then, you will ONLY list this litany of EXCUSES

and, try like heck to paint a picture such as he is the # 8 coach of those still in the game today over the last 10 years. Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Les Miles, Pete Carroll, Jim Tressel, Bobby Bowden, Lloyd Carr, … how many should I list you just IGNORED by putting in that little qualifier – STILL AT THAT SCHOOL.

What does that make him ?

Actually about # 18 ?

For which his total compensation is three and one-half million dollars a year

And, he cannot motivate. If he could, then Rocket man would not have to DEFEND him with 1 of his litany of excuses that somehow it is not his fault that the team LOST to a team who ended up unranked in the Poll Florida 2002, a team whom he went 0-11 on 3rd Down Conversions (He went # 56 in the nation just this past season in 3rd Down Conversions – by the way.), Not Mark Richt’s fault that he could not / would not motivate his players against South Carolina in 2007, a USC team who by the way Lost 6 games 6-6 and did not even play in a bowl game 2007.

Where was the motivation on the play that cost us the game in the last game Rocket man ? 4th and goal from the 2-yard line and kicks a field goal. We never recovered that,

EITHER.

Rumbo

July 3rd, 2011
10:04 am

Well, since a Georgia grad compiled the list, it’s hardly surprising there were no Dawgs represented. Otherwise Herschel Walker, who was nowhere near being an NFL legend would have been mentioned. As I recall he wound up being a special teams guy after not having enough moves to make it at RB. Rest assured, you’ll never see him in the NFL’s Hall of Fame.

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 3rd, 2011
10:24 am

Thomas Brown

Thank you for your post. I’ve tried to reason with Rocket Mouth and his buddies CHEEZO, ALTAMAHA DOG, SOUTH GA DAWG and Dawg

They dont get it bud, all they see is Richt has 10 wins which I explained to them its really not that hard to get 10 wins

Ive basically said the exact same things you have
you should add,

UGA having top 10 recruiting classes 10 yrs in a row (streak broken last yr )only other team to do it Oklahoma
Ranking #4 in putting players in the NFL since 1999 ahead of FL but those who love to make excuses to losing to FL say they have the better talent
1-9 vs FL (I dont count the other win because Zook was fired the week before)
Has never beat FL the yrs he appeared in the SEC championship
30+ arrests in 5 yrs
11 last yr

What gets me is you make a comment about a player and they are silent. Make a comment about Richt and they all team up to try to either get you thrown off, call you names, or say your not a UGA fan.

Thomas Brown

July 3rd, 2011
10:55 am

Yes, but both of us our UGA fans.

We may not be, either of us, good Christians.

And, therein lies the rub.

I believe in the Separation of Church and State.

Thomas Brown

July 3rd, 2011
11:08 am

What I don’t believe is that because he is a Christian, that that makes him better as a coach.

A coach is a guy who hires a coaching staff.

Here, he is woefully, inept.

A coach is a guy who gets credit for his recruits and who takes responsibility for those whom he was given credit for, both on the field and off.

Here, too, he is woefully inept. I have the records. It is not 30 in 5 plus years, instead it is over 120 in 10 years.

And a great coach is 1 who either beats every team he is supposed to beat. 10 Losses in 10 years to those who finished the season not in the Top 25 the same season they beat him, is woefully inept here, as well.

A great coach wins the games against the teams whom the nation says in fact were the great teams that season; and on this sour note he is 3-9 vs teams finishing in the AP Poll Top 10 the same season they too beat him and ended up Top 10 teams. By stark contrast, LSU beat 2 in 2007; Mark Richt none and Auburn won 7 games last season against teams who finished in the AP Poll Top 25 while Mark Richt is 17-24 all 10 years; and of course Auburn won 2 games last season alone against teams who finished in the AP Poll Top 10.

The 2 I loved from Rocket man (maybe this is rocket science – to him anyway, obviously) are :

1. There are 8 better coaches still in the game who over the last 10 years have been better; and, I named another list longer than that of those clearly better too who aren’t in the game – so, over the 10 years, we are SETTLING for about # 18 really and paying him $3.5 million in total compensation for it.

and, …

2. It isn’t, somehow, Mark Richt’s fault that his coaching staff and his recruits whom they heap praises on Mark Richt for getting here, have in fact a BAD ATTITUDE.

For myself, I will continue to expose those who would dare HYPE the coaches and players again another pre-season. This is the very last effort anyone should be attempting again in the off-season. Instead, the coaches and the players must GATA. If you aren’t saying that, you are motivating them all the wrong way again. I’m not happy and not satisfied; obviously Rocket man is – although he has yet to state, why ?

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 3rd, 2011
11:19 am

Richts Christianity has nothing to do with anything

here a stat for that

Vince Lombardi, Tom Landry, Joe Gibbs, Tony Dungy, Bill Walsh all Christians and won more than a decade of NFL championships

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 3rd, 2011
11:26 am

Richt put friendship ahead of the program, thats my issue with him as well as his complete lack of discipline which has led to the embarrassement of the program and also consistantly not taking the FL game with importance

I know you point out Murry but Im not on his case for several reasons yet:

1. We have predictable play calling which has even been said on numerous non biased call in shows I listen to everyday
2. No offensive line
3. Defense last yr sputtered
4. and again lack of team discipline
5. down field blocking just look at AL

THE Dixie Redcoat Band

July 3rd, 2011
12:15 pm

We heard that espn radio/tv was hiring more and more women to read sports scores, getting rid of more males, we just click off.

Tallcarl

July 3rd, 2011
12:20 pm

I am also a little off target but I live in Barranquilla, Colombia and when ESPN does play a Baseball game during the week it is almost always an AL team (mostly Yanks, I hate) and, or a sorry NL team playing a superior AL team, usually from the Northeast. I dislike ESPN so strongly that if galls me to have to rely on them for some of my college football. Their bias in football is also evident.

It Ain't Rocket Science

July 3rd, 2011
12:33 pm

The attitudes they develope if things are not going well for them in a game. Guess I need to spell that out. I.E. Washburn Ealey, I think he does when he needs to. He probably is guilty of trying too hard, but that is the person he is.
Just gonna have to disagree becuaue my opinion of him is not going to change on his abilities. Call me a homer or whatever all you want, but over ten years, he is still the 3rd winningest coach in the SEC.
Just curious to know what would be accedptable to you? But then again, I guess it doesn’t matter because I think one thing about him and you think another.
There is just shy of 70 days before the serious stuff starts and then we shall see.

Tallcarl

July 3rd, 2011
12:36 pm

@ Rumbo, you recall nothing. Hershel was misused in the pros and coaches never used him to his potential. Except in Dallas where everyone knew he was going to get the ball up the middle. He still averaged over a thousand yards rushing and a thousand receiving the last few years there. When Minnesota got him he would average maybe 5 touches of the football a game and maybe 7 if you counted KO returns. Add in his yardage and stats in the USFL and he would be top ten in football in total yards. He was a team player that never complained and a class act. You need to use other sources than ESPN for your opinions because you obviously never watched him play. By the way h played the second half of the Championship game against ND with a dislocated shoulder and was the difference in the game. No coincidence that Rumbo rhymes with Dumdo.

Lester Miles

July 3rd, 2011
2:18 pm

Willie McClendon was not at fault since he was the back up to Walter Payton for years. Hardly anybody would have been successful in that predicament. Put him on another team and he had the ability to be very successful. Happy Independence Day.

speeedy

July 3rd, 2011
3:09 pm

how about jasper sanks

Win Place and Show

July 3rd, 2011
4:48 pm

“Donnan’s bankrupt.”

He bet on UGA to win. Thall’ll bankrupt anyone.

RamboDog

July 3rd, 2011
5:45 pm

tar and feathers party..

You should know this as you probably watch them in your mama’s basement…

Fran the Man fan

July 3rd, 2011
6:25 pm

The greatest UGA player of all time – college and pro – was Fran Tarkenton. Period.

mustard dog

July 3rd, 2011
7:01 pm

tar and feather…..You would probably know about that oiling up if anybody would. How’s everything at the butt ward?

It Ain't Rocket Science

July 3rd, 2011
7:33 pm

See you later folks. I have found a place where they actually discuss football and stick to the subject being written about. No more stupid attacks by people and statements not backed by facts. You all can have the AJC blogs.

chazzo

July 3rd, 2011
7:40 pm

Flat tire,
You are hilarious, dude (and paranoid). You tell me to shut my mouth, and I hadn’t even thought about you. I guess you think about me, though.

I think Bear is the Greatest, too! No argument out of me there. But, by your standards, considering he never won an NC and had a few 7 win seasons, you would have been calling for his head. LOL

Benadawg

July 3rd, 2011
8:01 pm

It doesnt matter to me David Greene is one of my favorite all time dawgs.

DawgVoiceofReason

July 3rd, 2011
10:31 pm

RetroDdawg,

It appears you don’t know the definition of the word “thug” and thus that is likely one on many words you don’t understand. I’ll help you out with this one, from Dictionary.com, it means “a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.”. AJ meets none of those criteria and for you to even suggest it implies you are neither a UGA fan nor a decent person. He made a mistake and accepted his punishment for it. You might want to look in the mirror the next time you think about throwing that term around.

chazzo

July 3rd, 2011
11:15 pm

DVR: Thank you. Clarification was most definitely needed.

Yeah: It’s a thug’s life driving on a suspended license. How come the white kid that gets drunk, sexually assaults a young woman and resists arrest isn’t referred to as a thug???????

Jonkdawg

July 3rd, 2011
11:16 pm

Who is Terrell Davis? 2 Super bowls for Denver Broncos. who is Rodney Hampton? Who is Garrison Hurts? Who is Hines Ward? What about Lawrence Edwards?

AltamahaDawg

July 3rd, 2011
11:47 pm

rocket man, please give me the link. Hopefully they require registration.

Hmmmm.....

July 4th, 2011
2:12 am

UGA 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,0000,000 – Boise St. 0

Thomas Brown

July 4th, 2011
4:48 am

Rocket man, you say Mark Richt over the 10-Year Mark Richt era, you claim he has The Georgia Bulldogs Football Team # 3 in the entire SEC in Winning Percentage :

.723 Winning Percentage 83 SEC Games : Florida 2001-2010
.702 Winning Percentage 84 SEC Games : LSU 2001-2010
.683 Winning Percentage 82 SEC Games : Auburn 2001-2010
.663 Winning Percentage 83 SEC Games : UGA Mark Richt 2001-2010

You called me out, Rocket man; and, post these out-and-out lies about Mark Richt. Then, call yourself a homer, and then you say wait until next year. What is acceptable, sir, is better than 10-3 or 10-4, which clearly I have stated he will be again, this season 2011.

Winning Percentage Finish ranking each of Mark Richt’s 10-Years :

# 67 at 06-7 for 2010
# 35 at 08-5 for 2009
# 18 at 10-3 for 2008
# 09 at 11-2 for 2007
# 33 at 09-4 for 2006
# 12 at 10-3 for 2005
# 11 at 10-2 for 2004
# 12 at 11-3 for 2003
# 02 at 13-1 for 2002
# 34 at 08-4 for 2001

Over the LAST FIVE (5) YEARS :

# 34 is Mark Richt’s Average Ranking in Winning Percentage last 5 years

Over the FIRST FIVE (5) YEARS (Jim Donnan Recruits) :

# 14 is Mark Richt’s Average Ranking in Winning Percentage first 5 years

There are 20 places worse these last Five (5) Years in Average Winning Percentage Rank per Season than there were with the Jim Donnan recruits.

Rocket man, you have some aversion to discussing these last 5 years. I played your little silly game. You Lost. Now, you do what I tell you to do. You look at these last 5 years, by God, Rocket man.

Thomas Brown

July 4th, 2011
5:26 am

Flat tire, sir, I am not on Aaron Murray, either.

What I take exception to is the Aaron Murray for Heisman Trophy. Aaron Murray is the Best Quarterback in The SEC. Aaron Murray is great. Aaron Murray is anything, but.

Excuses mean nothing to me, other than we have yet another post of Excuses.

Facts are he stole 8 carries a game from the running backs last season. The running backs averaged over 5 yards a carry. He averaged 1.9

Facts are he threw 24 TD passes, 19 vs 8 teams who ended the season not ranked in the AP Poll Top 25, and lost 2 of those games where the better quarterback on the field was not he, but the opposing quarterback. He threw only 5 TD passes in the other 5 games, and these were against the only 5 teams he played who did end up in the AP Poll Top 25. He lost all 5 of those games.

David Greene deserves to be on this list because he threw some passes in NFL pre-season games and was absolutely horrible, throwing wounded ducks. He fumbled the football and threw interceptions; and nothing else. This is what he did. Yet, these same fans who heap greatest college quarterback EVER on David Greene, say so because at the time, he was the 1st QB under these new watered-down 14-game seasons for the top teams, who started every game from Freshman year, on. A Jim Donnan recruit, as well. Jim Donnan redshirted him 2000.

David Greene lost a ton of games that mattered. But, again, all they talk about here on AJ-C blogs is that he was the greatest college quarterback, ever.

By that standard, he is a supreme bust of the highest order in the NFL. I saw every game he played in the NFL preseason. I saw every play he played. He was not a flop; he was horrendously horrible with his wounded ducks, fumbles, interceptions, flat feet, and with his flabby arm-strength. College hype by we UGA fans, and abject loser in the NFL.

David Greene’s standards – greatest college quarterback ever at the time he graduated – is a pipe dream and a total lie. He beat Florida 1 time, his senior season, and that against what was at the time the worst Florida team, a 5-Loss team.

5 Losses. His only win 2004 over a 5-Loss Florida team.

Unranked just like the 2002 team who beat David Greene 0-11 on 3rd Down Conversions.

1 look, 1 glance, at David Greene’s arm not in a Jersey or in a cut-off jersey, and you knew you could not float past me that David Greene was the Best Quarterback in College History. You’ll not re-write history on my watch, now, about this.

But, David Greene at the time, since we just embarked on these 14-game seasons, started every game for 4 years and we averaged the # 15 team in Won/Lost Record over those 4 years. Played a very soft schedule 2002 where the only other Top 25 Coaches’ Poll team in The SEC was # 14 Auburn. Beat a 5-Loss FSU in the Sugar Bowl. 5-Losses and that is a grand national stage game between 2 great teams, with the nation watching ?

Obviously, not.

2001 he knocked the lid off the # 11 all-time program in 1-A wins by beating a team who finished # 4 in the AP Poll, the vols. But, lost 4 games. He never did have another win like that over a team who finished in the AP Poll Top 10.

Brag about that all you want, and try to float to me today here that he was the greatest college quarterback of all-time, at the time, because of his wins in 14-game seasons, when previously no Quarterback got to play 14-game seasons, if they were in fact one of the top teams in a Conference Championship Game.

Fast forward to today, and say Aaron Murray is the greatest ever. Heisman Trophy Quarterback. Now, of course, you have to change those very same rules to say that because Aaron Murray wasn’t the better quarterback against Florida, wasn’t the better quarterback against South Florida ( Is that the name of the team ?) Wasn’t the better QB vs Missy State. Wasn’t the better QB compared to Colorado, either. Wasn’t the better QB vs Arkansas. Wasn’t the better QB vs South Carolina, either. And, he wasn’t the better QB on the field that day against Auburn as well.

1953.

Have to go back to 1953 to find a QB at UGA who Lost more games than Aaron Murray as our Starter 2010. 58 years ago, you have to go back to find an UGA team who lost more games than UGA 2010.

If David Greene is the Greatest College QB ever at the time he graduated based upon Wins as Starter at QB; then by God, Aaron Murray is the WORST.

Thomas Brown

July 4th, 2011
7:56 am

Aaron Murray was clearly our best player all year last year. There isn’t even a 2nd place vote.

joe

July 4th, 2011
8:32 am

Wow!!!!What a terrible article and a waste of time.

JE

July 4th, 2011
8:37 am

One thing everyone overlooks in this discussion….. There were 21 other starters during all the football games that ever was played…. Darn, Ben Jones must be a terrible center because his record is the same as A. Murray’s. Or why was A.J. so great because of his receptions from MURRAY. He also had the same record…. Statistics, Yes you can make them say whatever you wish them to say. Support the dawgs or just shut up.

Paddy

July 4th, 2011
11:03 am

Fred….why not Ernie Davis? It would not matter what college team he played on, he would make this list.

chazzo

July 4th, 2011
11:15 am

Brucerugby79: Thanks. Tardits was one of the bright spots back in the day. I was always curious about what he went on to do. He was definitely an interesting character.

Thomas Brown

July 4th, 2011
11:40 am

JE

No, you can not.

Aaron Murray stole 8 carries a game from the running backs.

The running backs averaged more than 5 yards a carry.

Aaron Murray averaged less – a lot less – 1.9 yards per carry.

Aaron Murray Lost 3 games with out AJ Green.

Aaron Murray Lost 4 games with A. J. Green.

A. J. Green was not the difference, now was he ?

Aaron Murray threw 19 TD passes vs 8 teams who did not finish AP Top 25

Aaron Murray threw 5 TD passes vs 5 teams who did finish AP Poll Top 25

Aaron Murray was the QB and as the Starting QB if David Greene was great because he won football games he started, then Aaron Murray surely has a Losing Record as our Starting QB.

Aaron Murray led his Offense to 1st Downs and was # 72 at 1st Downs last year.

Aaron Murray led his Offense to # 52 Total Offense

Aaron Murray led his Offense to # 55 in Converting 3rd Down Conversions.

Aaron Murray lost to 2 of the 8 cupcakes he faced and ALL FIVE of the teams who did finish the season in the AP Poll Top 25.

Aaron Murray is itty-bitty and has zero hope of ever being even drafted.

Aaron Murray is not great. Not by any measure.

wreckmaniac

July 4th, 2011
11:44 am

italian_29. Not exactly. How you guys continue to revise history is amazing. Don’t ket the facts get in the way of the UGA “tradition”. Tradition is not what you dream up . It is simply a pack of facts.

chazzo

July 4th, 2011
12:28 pm

T Brown: While I agree with you that some of the hype surrounding Murray is not deserved and, quite frankly, detrimental, a few of your points don’t add up.

For instance, saying that Murray stole carries from the running backs is an odd statement. If he took off running on a passing play, how is that stealing a run from a back? Also, a QBs rushing avg. includes sacks. So, he may have picked up 20 on a designed rushing play but lost 19 because of a couple of sacks.

Also, AJ was out the first four games of Murray’s college career. 2 of those teams had very good D-lines and excellent offenses. I think there are far more variables involved than AJ’s absence.

Murray is good. You are right to contest the Heisman BS and even that he is the best in the SEC. You are not right to cook up a bunch of sketchy stats to run the guy in the dirt.

There are a smorgasbord of great, winning college QBs who never go pro or make it once they are there. The UGA offense needs a manager, not necessarily a gun slinger. Give me a good, solid QB who knows the playbook over a superstar any day.

Top Dawg

July 4th, 2011
12:42 pm

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 4th, 2011
1:03 pm

cheezo

I and Thomas Brown have given you the facts where are yours bud I’m still waiting. And by the way I have never said fire Richt because he hasnt won a NC. Once again you blurt out crap with no facts.

Why dont you join your buddies Altama-tard, and Rocket Mouth and find you another blog. Im sure its called the UGA kool-aid blog

Paddy

July 4th, 2011
1:08 pm

I’m glad we have Murray on our side this season. Some of you guys talk like he could not make a good Pop Warner team! Give the guy a break and let him play and lets see what happens. I for one think we are in for a very good season.

Doublewide

July 4th, 2011
2:07 pm

Herschel Walker

tar and feathers party

July 4th, 2011
4:49 pm

Fire Mark’s Rectum NOW! War Eagles R # 1

chazzo

July 4th, 2011
9:49 pm

flat tire: you and thomas brown are probably one and the same. Once again you show that complete lack of ability to have rational discussion or to consider someone else’s point of view. This will be the last time that I knowingly post a response to anything you say. This will be the last time I knowingly read one of your posts. I say knowingly because you frequently change your name. Later oh flatulent one.

sldkfjslk

July 4th, 2011
11:07 pm

David Greene was good because he had a great defense who gave him chances to win. That O-line we had his sophomore season was one of the best we ever had. 2002, 1997 and 1992 the best lines in the past 20 years.

sldkfjslk

July 4th, 2011
11:11 pm

The only reason Donnan was fired was because Tech beat him three years in a row with ineligible players. That and he hired some bad assistants after his first batch got hired away. Oh, and he forgot to kiss the right butts in Athens but I don’t blame him for that. We need someone to stand up to the UGA puddle sharks.

flat tire on the altamaha

July 4th, 2011
11:20 pm

Mark Richt is the dawgs coach.

Thomas Brown

July 5th, 2011
12:03 am

chazzo,

Thank you for noting my point, that hyping this coaching staff assembled by Mark Richt and hyping these recruits we give credit to Mark Richt for bringing here, is detrimental to their attitude. Never mind that they don’t deserve it with us having to go all the way back to 1953 to find a worse season with more losses than we just put up; it is the wrong type of motivational effort on our part as fans. Instead, we should be telling them that all of this bad publicity off the field with all the kids just quitting the coaching staff here and transferring out, and all the excuses for all the feigned injuries and missed games such as specifically Caleb Darnell King and all the bad publicity on the field losing to the likes last season to Florida for the 8th time in 10 Mark Richt tries, losing to Colorado who ended the season with a 5-7 record 2 games under .500 and would have been a 4-win team without the win over us, and losing to Missy State who clearly doesn’t have the talent we have but certainly out-coached us in that blow-out loss to them too along with the loss to Central Florida whatever the heck that is – that all this bad publicity on the field is intolerable, unacceptable and must be corrected forthwith. That the players should be motivated by us all telling the kids that they must GATA against lesser teams and that they must GATA vs the really truly great teams and stop (1) losing every game against the great teams and (2) stop losing the lousy teams.

But, chazzo sir, 1.9 yards a carry is a sorry average to steal 8 carries a game from the running backs here. You are really wrong to come post on AJ-C blogs how great a runner he is, that he is a dual-threat quarterback and telling him that he is a great runner from the quarterback position. He is anything but. He is too small and not fast enough to establish himself as a dual-threat quarterback. He is a passer in a pass-happy offense. He calls his own number on every single play all season long. He is a ball hog. He either checks off at the line to him running or passing the ball, or he allows the play calls from the sidelines to be the play he does call, calling for his number on every play. Don’t get me wrong. He was our best player. He just cannot run the football. The quicker he learns that, the better chance we have of : (1) actually making 1st Downs (2) actually converting 3rd Down Conversions (3) not having our quarterback sacked (4) not losing to the lousy teams on our schedule and (5) actually getting out of this offensive funk that has seen us all 10 years of the Mark Richt era average the # 52 Total Offense in the nation.

I am well aware of how college football calculates running the football. Don’t presume you are somehow smarter or know more about college football than I. Condescending comments about your knowledge of college football does you great injustice, when you are actually a very good football fan. Get to the point that you feel that itty-bitty Aaron Murray should be running the football, in your opinion. We prepared no one, as we never do, to take over in case of his injury and he sucks at it.

Cam Newton ran for 20 Touchdowns last season alone and 1473 yards rushing for an average of 5.5 yards a carry, not the paltry 1.9 yards a carry of little Aaron Murray. There is no way that Aaron Murray should be stealing 8 carries a game from his tailbacks. He should get the ball into their hands on all 8 of those carries, every game, as his goal 2011. By the way, Cam Newton threw 30 TD passes, not 19 vs 8 teams who finished not in the AP Poll Top 25 and only 5 vs 5 teams who did finish in the AP Poll Top 25. In fact, Cam Newton won 7 games against teams who finished in the Top 25. Little Aaron Murray was 0-5 vs teams who finished in the AP Poll Top 25. And Aaron Murray lost 2 games to teams who did not finish in the Top 25. All 7 of the games Aaron Murray lost as our Starting QB, the opposing quarterback had far greater games that day on the field head-to-head than he.

These are not sketchy stats :

# 72 in the nation at even getting a 1st Down

# 56 in the nation at Converting 3rd Downs

# 55 in the nation Total Offense

We are a horrible offense and spare me the excuses chazzo.

I am not running him in the dirt, the fans of Mark Richt and Aaron Murray are running him into the dirt; while I merely point out the obvious. (1) He is too small and too slow to run the football in The SEC (2) He is a poor leader off the field and worse yet on the field (3) He, like David Greene, have a win percentage as Starting QB here at UGA (4) He is a poor evaluator of what assets his offense does have (5) He did no better with A. J. Green than he did without A. J. Green, in fact he did worse. The losses to Colorado, Central Florida and to Florida – all teams we should have beat – occurred after A. J. Green was back on the team, not selling his Jersey from a Shreveport Bowl Game for $1000.

Thomas Brown

July 5th, 2011
1:14 am

sldkfjslk,

Mark Richt was handed a great Offensive Line here at UGA by Jim Donnan. He then totally ignored his OL and recruited guys who were already injured and never played a down as a direct result. Our fans said what a great guy he was when he recruited players who were injured goods on the OL, when other sharks such as Urban Meyer, Les Miles, Nick Saban, Jim Tressel, Pete Carroll, Bob Stoops, Steve Spurrier, Joe Paterno, Gary Patterson, Gene Chizik, Mack Brown, Chris Petersen, Bronco Mendenhall, Kyle Whittingham, Frank Beamer, Brian Kelly, Bret Bielema, Bobby Petrino and Dan Mullen would never have recruited them injured as they already were in high school.

But, Mark Richt is such a nice guy. A good Christian. And, that is what is said about Mark Richt. It is not said that in this state finding but 3 other states with more high school recruits who go on to the NFL, that Mark Richt averages over all 11 classes now, the # 7 average rank averaging both Rivals and Scout.com over the entire 11 years now.

It is not said that he is 3-9 vs teams who finished AP Top 10 all 10 years

It is not said that he has lost 10 games vs teams who did not finish AP Top 25 all 10 years

Just that he is such a nice guy.

We have bubble-recruited our OL every single year of the Mark Richt era.

He either signs every OL in the nation, or he signs none of consequence.

He has done this repeatedly.

Would you say that it is a well-known fact that we need OL here at UGA today ?

Mark Richt recruited two 3-star and two 4-star OL 2011. 1 of the 4-star is under-sized. So is 1 of the 3-star. They are ranked 40, 28, 41 and 23. Now, give me a break.

2010 One OL ranked # 90, one 4-star ranked # 10 who was injured in high school and since quit the team, duh, and transferred out, one under-sized guard ranked # 6.

2009 One 4-star ranked # 6 who never has done anything, one ranked # 20 who likewise hasn’t shown a thing, and one 3-star under-sized who may or may not pan out.

2008 three OL recruited a 3-star ranked # 39, a 4-star ranked # 15 who is an NFL stud, and a 4-star ranked # 10 who has quit the team and transferred out too.

2007 Eight (8) OL recruited by Mark Richt in one season. And, he wonders why he bubble-recruits the OL position ? He has done this continually, and then he is lucky the following years to get any. Why is this ? 8 in one class signed by Mark Richt ? Seriously stupid recruiting.

2006 Right before he signed 8 in 2007, he signed 5 OL in 2006. Sounds pretty desperate in recruiting OL, to sign 13 OL enough for 3-Deep at 3 positions and 2-Deep at the other 2 all in 2 classes.

2005 one ranked # 36 in the nation an under-sized OL

2004 two OL recruited all of 2004, one of whom was injured

2003 Seven (7) OL recruited all in one class, then I presume he wonders why he has bubble-recruited the OL his entire bloody 11 years here, this great guy Mark Richt and wonderful recruiter in this hotbed of high school OL whom he could have targeted every single year, instead.

2002 Five (5) OL recruited and signed. A total of 12 OL in 2 classes 2002 and 2003.

sldkfjslk

Thank you for bringing up the OL and how Mark Richt has bubble-recruited the OL all 11 recruiting classes

sldkfjslk

Richt

July 5th, 2011
3:03 pm

Sec Championships since 2001
LSU 3
UGA 2
Florida 2
Auburn 2
Bama 1
Those are the facts , judgeing Murray with his rushing stats , when sacks are decuted from those stats clearly TB you are an idiot.

DawginLex

July 5th, 2011
3:57 pm

Thomas Brown is aka Bulldawg. He changes his handle like a TROLL does.

I would add some names to the list:

Ben Zambiasi since he only played in Canada
Mack Guest-All SEC OL but never played pro ball

TB/Bulldawg

You get on here year after year after year and gripe and whine about Coach Richt. You spout your stats ad nauseum.

What are you trying to accomplish?
We all know we went 6-7 last year.
We all know Richt needs to win now in a big way.

What do you want, some attention?
A friend?

Go get a dam puppy and quit posting 5 page blog posts.

mdr

July 5th, 2011
5:25 pm

Greene should have been in the top 10.

@RetroDawg: You may be the single biggest idiot on all of the AJC blogs, and that is saying A LOT! What the hell has AJ EVER done to deserve to be called a THUG??? He sold a JERSEY that BELONGED TO HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!! It may be against NCAA rules, but NO LAWS WERE BROKEN IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. He has NEVER in his life run afoul of the law, IN ANY WAY. Unreal that you call yourself a DAWG!

chazzo

July 5th, 2011
8:00 pm

What about Danny Wuerfel? Is he on that list?

old time dog

July 6th, 2011
8:12 am

Can’t wait to see what we got. Glad eYe still look forward to it each year. My biggest hope is for the defense to be strong. Been a while since we’ve seen that. Maybe the horses are in place but eYe gotta wonder if we can solidify things to where they work.

Jordan

July 6th, 2011
10:09 am

Where is Georgia going to finish in the East this year? Check out my predictions here:

http://isportsweb.com/2011/07/06/2011-sec-east-predictions/