Simply Saturday: Adding some Dawgs to list of college-only legends

Simply Saturday: David Greene left college as the winningest quarterback, but didn't achieve NFL stardom. (Associated Press)

Simply Saturday: David Greene left college as the winningest quarterback, but didn't achieve NFL stardom. (Associated Press)

ESPN.com spent the past week trotting out its Simply Saturday series, a countdown of the 50 greatest college players who didn’t go on to become great NFL players.

Ohio State’s Archie Griffin topped the list, which was heavy on names from Notre Dame, Nebraska, Oklahoma and FSU. Strangely, only five SEC players were included, and three of them were from Auburn.

No Georgia Bulldogs made the list, possibly because many of UGA’s best-known players have gone on to long and occasionally even stellar careers in pro football. But ESPN SEC blogger Chris Low did include a couple of Bulldog defensive legends on his own Simply Saturday list: David Pollack, whose NFL career was ended prematurely by a neck injury, and Scott Woerner, who played mainly in the USFL after a brief stint in the NFL.

I’m not sure it’s really fair for a list of Simply Saturday stars to include players like Pollack or running back Robert Edwards, who might well have had hugely successful NFL careers had they not fallen victim to injuries, but there are quite a few other Bulldogs who achieved All-America status in college and yet didn’t make much of a name in the NFL.

Like linemen Ray Rissmiller, George Patton and Joel Parrish, for instance. And defensive backs Jeff Sanchez, Bill Krug and, more recently, Greg Blue, who’s been playing in Canada. And All-America running back Tim Worley, who showed promise as an NFL rookie but saw his career fall off quickly amid injuries and suspensions.

And then there are the Dawgs who didn’t make the All-America lists but won plenty of college plaudits that didn’t translate into NFL success, like All-SEC running backs Willie McClendon and Musa Smith, and quarterbacks Eric Zeier and David Greene.

In fact, you can make a good case that Greenie really should have been included in ESPN’s Simply Saturday Top 50, since he finished at UGA as the then all-time winningest college football quarterback but never got to play in a regular season game during his brief career as an NFL backup. If that’s not Simply Saturday material, what is?

Feel free to share your thoughts on any other Dogs who ought to make a list of Simply Saturday legends.

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" HOT " seat

July 2nd, 2011
10:43 am

Gotta beat Boise State in the GEORGIA dome.

sUGAr_daddy_DAWG

July 2nd, 2011
10:47 am

My first first?

chilidawg

July 2nd, 2011
10:49 am

do the work, dawgs.

chazzo

July 2nd, 2011
10:52 am

I’d put Tardits on the list. The guy was from France. Didn’t he go play Australian rules football or was it rugby?

Ceasar

July 2nd, 2011
11:03 am

Jiggy Smaha 65-67

Bulldog Arch

July 2nd, 2011
11:03 am

dawgfan

July 2nd, 2011
11:08 am

Greene never got any recognition from ESPN when he was playing at UGA. Why start now? We won 44 games in 4 seasons and all they wanted to talk about was USC. They still insist that 2004 USC was the greatest assemblage of carbon based life forms in the history of the universe, despite scraping by Pac 10 weaklings like Stanford and UCLA throughout that entire season. LA really needs an NFL team so ESPN can get off USC’s sack once and for all.

Thanks.

Charlotte

July 2nd, 2011
11:08 am

What about Fred Gibson?

Blindog

July 2nd, 2011
11:12 am

I thought for sure David Grean would have some success in the NFL.Wonder why it never happened?

Dawg Days

July 2nd, 2011
11:15 am

Charlotte, what about Fred Gibson???, he’s gotta be your husband, or son, or brother, to suggest Freddie “drop the ball” Gibson as one of the 50 greatest college players……………………… !!!

wreckmaniac

July 2nd, 2011
11:19 am

Donnan’s bankrupt. Hate to hear that. He was the only decent coach UGA ever had. 40 wins- 19 losses. Why was he ever fired ? Or did he just get sick of it ?

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 2nd, 2011
11:22 am

Bill

You stated “Strangely, only five SEC players were included, and three of them were from Auburn”

The answer. Northeast media bias. They hate the SouthEast and it was them who kept Southeast teams out of a championship games if they could for years if Nuter Dam, Michigan, Ohio State Michigan State etc were any good.

The SEC doing good in sports is like having them eat a bar soap for food

Ludakit

July 2nd, 2011
11:38 am

You guys do realize it’s not a very complimentary list to be added to, right? There’s no West Coast or Northeast Bias on this one. More UGA players not on this list means two things:

1) Most Dawgs who play in the NFL achieve a certain level of success not considered to be a disappointment (good thing).

2) Not many Dawgs have careers like Pollack, Greene, Edwards, etc. (not necessarily a bad thing, it’s just a reality that once-a-generation players come once a generation)

Pollack even said himself yesterday that Low’s list is one he didn’t like being included on. It’s not a good list folks. Let Auburn, USC, Notre Dame and the rest take up as much space as possible.

supsalemgr

July 2nd, 2011
11:40 am

A little off topic. However, I keeep hearing rumors about Texas A&M and the SEC. I undertsand the Aggies are not pleased with the “sweetheart” deal the Big 12 gave Texas. The balance would be pretty easy as Clemson would jump at a chance to join the SEC.

Boneless

July 2nd, 2011
11:45 am

Gordon ely-kelso

Randall "Pink" Floyd

July 2nd, 2011
12:19 pm

Greene got plenty of pub while he was in college. No disrepect, whatsoever. Nowhere near enough armstrength to be effective in the pros.

Something else the SEC leads the nation in...

July 2nd, 2011
12:24 pm

Paul in RDU

July 2nd, 2011
12:30 pm

Bill – If it wouldn’t be fair to list David Pollack or Robert Edwards, how fair was it for ESPN to list Charlie Ward? He had a pretty successful pro career, albeit in basketball and not football.

chazzo

July 2nd, 2011
12:38 pm

Ludakit, you have a point. I think it is also a testament, though, to a good college guy and a good NFL guy are two entirely different animals. How many NCAA championship QBs end up starting in the NFL?

Another thing to which it is a testament is the nature of the job. Playing in the NFL is a professional career. It takes a special kind of obsession to take that beating for a living. Some of these guys make enough scratch in their first season to never have to work again. Where is the motivation?

That’s life. Only the very few are going to become the superstars out of a very select group of players. Let’s face it. For the vast majority of college players, that is all they will ever be. It is the end of the road. It is also quite an achievement to make it to the college level. Most guys that play college ball aren’t even going to play in Canadian or arena ball.

Honestly, it is what I love about college football. Despite the big star players who granted win championships, the heart of college ball is all the guys who have earned the right to play for their school, the guys who will never get to play at any higher level, the guys to whom it means a lot more than the NFL minor league.

DAWGS forever

July 2nd, 2011
12:55 pm

Donnan was a fit at Georgia like Rich Rod was at Michigan. Sorry to hear of his $ troubles but over all liked him. I’m thankful for Richt for sure but at the time I didn’t like it since Donnan had been a winner and was recruiting great.

Greene is the one who deserves to be on the list.

Go DAWGS!

Ya'll are funny (you UGA people)

July 2nd, 2011
1:11 pm

Something else to whine about!

old time dog

July 2nd, 2011
1:22 pm

Ya’ll are funny….. See how funny we are to you when we trash you on the football field, again and again and again,etc.

It Ain't Rocket Science

July 2nd, 2011
1:42 pm

I tend to discount anything that comes out of ESPN. It is a shame that there are not other sports channel with some good money to compete with them. One thing it does do though, is give them a monopoly in some of their bone headed predicitions and reportings. No one else, even the fans, would go along with some of the crap they come up with.

It Ain't Rocket Science

July 2nd, 2011
1:45 pm

David green was great because he was such an effective leader for UGA. A smart young man with complete game control. He wasn’t gifted with the most pure athletic ability, but he was a leader and could motivate his team. I would think someday down the road, that young man could be a great coach.

dont get it

July 2nd, 2011
1:49 pm

Terrance Edwards?

dont get it

July 2nd, 2011
1:50 pm

joey T the 3rd!

WashedUp List

July 2nd, 2011
1:59 pm

Take off the red and black colored glasses. David Greene would be the only one close to making that list. It’s a college (all) legends list. Not a UGA “washed up” list. In all seriousness, Joe Hamilton from Tech comes closer to anyone you mentioned and I wouldn’t suggest that he should be on it.

Sicker every day

July 2nd, 2011
2:04 pm

The athletic history of UGA is full of so many sordid, sleazy incidents – dating back to Vince Dooley and continuing through Mark Richt – that it’s impossible to overlook. The school has come to stand for drunkenness and lawlessness, coddling of illiterate athletes who should never have been admitted to college, and rampant cheating by coaches.

Sickening, isn’t it?

RxDawg

July 2nd, 2011
2:11 pm

David Greene is the first name I thought of.

And although he’s not a Dawg, Danny Weurfle (spelling?).

old time dog

July 2nd, 2011
2:15 pm

Sicker every day… You need to try to remember to take your pychotrophic meds and quit stressing out over the pitiful nature of your football program. Sorbid and sleazy are just probably references to your own family. Sickening, isn’t it?

Richmond Hill

July 2nd, 2011
2:24 pm

As a general rule ESPN has never liked Georgia for some reason. Never can understand why. But watching their analysts in the fall, UGA never seems to get much respect. That Herb Kirkstreet, or whatever his name is, relentlessly seems to be anti-Georgia, assumedly because UGA beat him in a bowl game when he was the QB at Ohio State. Plus the black analyst who works with him, can’t recall his name, always to cut Georgia very little slack. Conversely, they seem to drool all over the marquee programs like Alabama and Florida and LSU, possibly because their their coaches are always good press, particularly Saban (both at LSU and Alabama), Meyer and certainly Spurrier when he was at Florida.

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 2nd, 2011
2:58 pm

Ludakit

I do realize that its not a list to be on but again who’s your #1 player on there. Archie Griffin, 2 time heisman winner really 2 time heisman what a joke look at his numbers and he is a 2 time winner there’s a clear example of bias right there

But again the SEC is littered with great college players that never made it in the pro’s and to have a top 50 and only have 5 is a joke and nothing but the media anti SEC crap.

and CHEEZO shut your mouth, I could say Paul Bear Bryant was the greatest coach in CFB history which he was and you would argue that because I said it

Fred

July 2nd, 2011
3:05 pm

Why is Ernie Davis on the list?

Fred

July 2nd, 2011
3:07 pm

RX Dawg: Wuerffel is number 16 on that list.

Paul in RDU

July 2nd, 2011
3:26 pm

Flat Tire
I must be missing something – you are claiming that the fact that there are only 5 ex-SEC players on this list (one that no-one wants to be on) shows that ESPN is biased AGAINST SEC players? Somehow, I don’t think that David Greene and David Pollack (2 all-time great college players who did nothing in the pros) are unhappy that they are not on the list.

Take Zeier off your list

July 2nd, 2011
3:38 pm

While Eric Zeier did not make it to the Super Bowl, you may have forgotten he was the No. 1 rated quarterback in the NFL while with the Cleveland Browns. He was in the league for 5-6 years, much as a backup, but he was successful for a short stint.

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 2nd, 2011
3:51 pm

Paul in RDU and anyone else

You are missing it

These are considered great athletes of college football. Which means those athletes they list would be good had they have played in the SEC

Stop and think for a minute, for example Troy Smith, Heisman winner at Ohio State, remember how bad he looked against a REAL defense when he played FL in the NC game

Here’s another Ron Dayne oh Ron Dayne will have a field day against UGA ESPN analyst said. What was the result 36 yds rushing against UGA

The list is saying that SEC does not have as many good quality ball players compared to every other league whether they made it in the NFL or not

Some players dont make it do to injury, scandle, lack of motivation,

archaeopat

July 2nd, 2011
4:00 pm

Don Porterfield is my choice.

Charlotte

July 2nd, 2011
4:05 pm

DawgDays: Calm down. No, I am not related to Fred Gibson. Nor was I suggesting he was one of the 50 greatest college players ever. He did, however, fit the category of great Bulldogs who didn’t make it in the pros. And yes, he dropped a few but he was a great receiver.

UGA? R U Kidding?

July 2nd, 2011
4:12 pm

Bill, don’t forget Demetre Baker, Tavarres King, Wahshaun Ealey, Alec Ogletree and Dontavius Jackson!

wreckmaniac

July 2nd, 2011
4:16 pm

Thats a nice-looking indoor practice facility at Tech. Why can’t UGA pull this off ? Maybe the recruits from the past two years cost too much ?

tar and feathers party

July 2nd, 2011
4:16 pm

Is this the same David Green who is now an Avon salesman? Ding Dong, Avon Calling! he he ha ha

wreckmaniac

July 2nd, 2011
4:17 pm

Come on people. We all know Qunicy Carter leads this list. Why am I having to remind you ?

tar and feathers party

July 2nd, 2011
4:21 pm

Quincy (sniff, sniff) Carter…..he he ha ha

tar and feathers party

July 2nd, 2011
4:22 pm

Don’t several former ugag players now make commercial homoerotic porn videos? Just askin’

Paul in RDU

July 2nd, 2011
4:36 pm

Flat Tire
You can read the ESPN list any way you want but there appears to be a heck of a chip you have on your shoulder.

Einsteindawg

July 2nd, 2011
5:20 pm

Just saw where Donnan filed BK…who would lend that dumb SOB $10M? He was a great recruiter (Seymour, Stitch, Champ, Grant, Hines…all future HOF, NFL), and probably needs a job. Why not replace Rodney Garner with him? Bet we can get him for less money, too.

Einsteindawg

July 2nd, 2011
5:27 pm

Thanks archaeopat for reminding us about Don Porterfield. He was a great athlete as well as a RB. He was the Jake Scott of the ’60s.

italian_29

July 2nd, 2011
6:11 pm

@WRECKMANIA, Yeah we all know Quincy Carter tops the list of KILLING your bugs.

RetroDawg

July 2nd, 2011
6:31 pm

The only thing that UGA lost in A.J. Green was one of the biggest thugs in UGA history.

Give him one year in the NFL, and he’ll be behind bars. Wave to him when you pass the chain gang.