Fan talk: Dawgs running the spread, Butler’s kick, radio out of sync
Let’s wind up a week in which we learned that Mark Richt and my wife have one major thing in common (pocket dialing) and Coach T apparently already has had his way with Isaiah Crowell by checking some Junkyard Mail …
Could Aaron Murray be effective in the running spread offense? (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)
Josh Cuevas writes: As a UGA alum I love your measured analysis on the Junkyard Blawg. Much better than the staff writers. My question spins off your question concerning what the Dogs have to do to reach lofty expectations. Do you think it’s time for Richt to throw caution to the wind and install something like a running spread offense?
I love old school smash-mouth football, but Georgia’s personnel this year doesn’t seem able to sustain that kind of play.
Here are my reasons for considering a running spread-type offense:
1) a mobile quarterback who has shown he can make good decisions
2) a blue chip running back, but one who doesn’t seem to have the physique to be an inside bulldozer and could probably utilize his speed better and hit some creases if the defense was forced to spread out since the o-line may not open many holes as is
3) a solid but not spectacular receiving corps without a star that would probably benefit from a game plan that spread the ball around
4) an offensive line that is not expected to be able to dominate many defenses at the point of attack
It would be a huge change (and controversial), but it may be the best way to utilize UGA’s personnel. We could still throw it 25-30 times a game and run it about the same, depending on what’s working best, and it could keep defenses on their heels a little instead of letting them pin their ears back and dropping our skill players in the backfield before the play develops.
I just don’t know if the offensive line is going to be strong enough to allow Murray the time to throw or to open holes for Crowell. If they’re not going to be able to do that, the game planning must compensate. Thoughts?
While Urban Meyer had a lot of success in the SEC with a running spread — at least, as long as he had Tim Tebow running it — I’ve never been convinced it’s a great base offense in this league and I think defenses have gotten a lot more adept at handling it. But more than that, I’m not sure the run spread would be the best use of Aaron Murray’s talents. Yes, he has the ability to run, but I think he’s able to use it more effectively with play-action in Richt’s pro set. Also, I’m not sure Murray could take the pounding that he’d have to endure in the spread. However, I do think introducing more spread into the Dogs’ offense on a spot basis would be a great idea. It would make Georgia less predictable — a real problem at times with Mike Bobo calling the signals.
Let’s throw the question to other fans: What do you think about Georgia and the spread?
Huck writes: Hey Bill … Have been enjoying your blogs, as always. Need a question answered and thought your memory might be better than mine. I know that the first “modern era” night game was against Clemson — but do you know if the 1984 “100 thousand mile” Butler field goal game was a night contest? Thanks!
I was pretty sure the game where Kevin Butler’s last-minute field goal broke the hearts of Clemson fans was a day game and UGA sports communications director Claude Felton confirms it: “No, it was not at night nor televised. Kickoff time for that game was 1:30 p.m.”
Claude adds, “In these days we live in, it’s really hard to imagine back in the early ’80s there were very few of our games on TV. People can’t believe it when I tell them that in 1980, our first game on TV was the 8th game of the season!”
Mark Edgar writes: Bill, I’m trying to find out who to contact to encourage the UGA radio broadcast to sync with the TV broadcast. I like to listen to Scott and Eric but also like to watch the action on TV. Unfortunately, the radio broadcast is several seconds ahead of television. If this syncing could be done, I bet the radio broadcast ratings would increase because I’m sure that I’m not the only Dawg fan who would appreciate this change.
I know what you mean. My brothers and I have tried listening to the UGA radio broadcasts with Scott Howard and Eric Zeier while watching the game on TV, but having the play be just about over on the radio as it’s just starting on the TV is just too distracting.
Unfortunately, there’s really no way for the UGA radio network to sync up with the TV broadcast since the amount of delay varies depending on how you’re receiving your television signal. Cable adds a delay and a satellite service like DirecTV delays it even further.
Apparently the only way to really match the UGA radio broadcast with a live television broadcast is to watch on your computer and use a program like Griffin’s RadioShark for the radio signal. It works like a Tivo, recording the broadcast so that you can pause it and pick back up where you were, and this allows you to time-shift the radio coverage to sync it up with the TV picture. At least, that’s what they claim. You can find out more about RadioShark here.
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#1 recruits don't get special treatment
June 18th, 2011
10:28 am
First!!
Apparently Coach T has had his way with Isaiah Crowell earlier this week.
On Monday….
Workouts under S&C began Monday. The new freshman lift in the mornings and the veterans in the afternoon. The core lifts on Monday were bench press and squats. They had to get 30 reps at 70% of their max. Isaiah Crowell could not finish the lifting or the running and drew Coach T’s wrath. Ken Malcome could not finish with the veterans.
On Tuesday….
The core lifts were close grip inclines and leg presses. The most obvious leader in the weight room is Christian Robinson. Bruce Figgins came in great shape. The most impressive of the new players is clearly John Jenkins. He is very strong and is in great shape. He will be the first new player moved to the veterans workouts. Crowell continues to struggle and was the only player who couldn’t finish Tuesday. He threw up more than once.
Frank Lane
June 18th, 2011
10:28 am
Think spread would be bad idea because we would have another thing to learn. Just take wider sets with current offense and rely more on finesse than power
DaveFromBaytown
June 18th, 2011
10:41 am
Throwing up? Check his diet, when is he eating in relation to training? Is he consuming enough calories?
Joey
June 18th, 2011
10:42 am
We shoulda run some version of the spread last season. Murray is perfect for it – he is much better out of the shotgun than the power I.
But you know Bobo/Richt – they’d rather attempt to put a round peg in a square hole.
Joey
June 18th, 2011
10:47 am
Thanks for the info, #1. Great news on Jenkins – can’t wait to see him in action! Crowell’s got plenty of time to get “SEC fit.”
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 18th, 2011
10:48 am
As a change up for a couple of plays, the spread might be OK, but Bill is right, Murray is not a Tebrow or Newton with the big body frame. You have got to be a stud these days to run that successfully and the defenses are not only big, but darn fast. If UGA tried to depend on the spread a lot, teams would just pick up on it, and focus on it more than the pass, and UGA would probably seem one dimensional again. Better we get our RB’s in good shape and ready to their job in the Pro. set and see how that works out. We will just, most likely have to take our lumps and be patient with our O line until they get some experience under them, and hope they can hold the line for the first few games and dominate the line after playing a few games, if their physical attributes translate into solid play.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a few trick plays though to keep the other sides defense honest and on their toes.
Beast from the East
June 18th, 2011
10:51 am
Not a big fan of the spread. I think it takes a really special talent at QB to run it effectively (Tebow, Newton). Even then, you have to have playmakers around them. When we (UF) lost some of our WR’s, it got much more difficult for Tebow and the RB’s to find room to run. I’m looking forward to the pro-style offense under Weis.
brah
June 18th, 2011
10:57 am
uga’s freshman savior is puking in the weight room? probably not a good sign.
Chalky
June 18th, 2011
11:07 am
I remember that Clemson game with Butler kicking the long field goal. I was having a pool party at my house and we had Munson calling the game on our house’s intercom system. We were listening out by the pool. What a great day!
SSG Dessert Dawg
June 18th, 2011
11:08 am
Maybe an offense that is more like what they did with Shockley. Not a spread, but mix in some QB draws and some option. Kept teams guessing more than what we do now.
1962 DAWG
June 18th, 2011
11:08 am
Murray seems to be a better pocket passer as you stated Bill. However putting a spread play in every so often would mix a defense up.
I would like to see UGA go with some no-huddle offense and speed things up some, this also keeps opposing defense’s on their heels.
Several teams last season, Auburn in particular had scoring drives that took less than 2 minutes using this spread and hurry-up offense.
Kevin Butler’s kick was a daytime kick to beat Clemson, I was at the local VFW with over 100 Veterans listening in. Lots of tables turned over and spilt beer that day as Clemson was at the time one of our biggest rivalries.
Destin Dawg
June 18th, 2011
11:09 am
Need to come in ready to go… in shape… Crowell reading the newspapers. ??? Marines basic training needed… Nutrition… S & C .. we’re out of shape last year.. lost in 4th Qtr.. etc !!!!
Destin Dawg
June 18th, 2011
11:13 am
SSG Dawg.. we do need to mix things up… too predictable last couple years.. Trickeration once in a while.. speed things up.. Wild dawg.. reverses etc..
chipper
June 18th, 2011
11:15 am
I feel like the program is trending down. They may play with more heart this year and we may appreciate the effort, but the results on the field will only be marginally better. It will be a better “team.” I predict a winning season. Whether that comes down to 8-4 or 7-5 is going to depend on the Tech game.
The spread would not make a difference. It takes an inordinate amount of time to install the plays into the existing set and they are 180 away from play-action. Yeah, you might be able to shift into a spread before the linemen set at the LoS but how many times is that going to work each game – or would it really be worth the limited results? I like the idea, but I wouldn’t want to coach it.
I don’t understand why Mike Bobo doesn’t use counter plays more often to keep a defensive line rush out of sync. You don’t have to count on as many of the linemen to hold their blocks. One of the most effective plays the Dawgs have run in years was the counter against LSU in the SECCG.
I certainly wouldn’t want to be a coach at UGA this fall, under any circumstances.
Destin Dawg
June 18th, 2011
11:15 am
Nutrition.. bananas.. pickle juice… fruit and vegies.. etc…
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
11:17 am
Joey the fact that Murrah “might” could run some version of the spread (which is a pretty broad term) is hardly the same thing as having him run our traditional offense being a round peg in a square hole. Are you seriously saying….he is ill-equiped and will not end up being one of the better QBs at Georgia . He is much better out of the shotgun than under center? How do you know that? Do you claim to know all the situational aspects of that comment?
Of Richt and Bobo’s issues, NOT knowing what thier starting QB is capable of is probably extremely low on that list, wouldnt you have to honestly say?
Beast is correct that to commit to the spread you need a bit more than a mobile 6 footer, and everything has to be adjusted around them. Personally I would always prefer they concentrate on what they do do, not what they should have tried. Realizing what they did do, didn’t work, but how on earth would doing something you don’t do, havent worked on, aren’t really well suited at all positions to do, going to be better?
Bobo, Bobo, a Pirate's Life for Me
June 18th, 2011
11:19 am
That offensive line has a lot of work to do. Some of those backups have better play out of their minds or it doesn’t matter who your QB or RB is.
sogadog
June 18th, 2011
11:19 am
I was there and UGA vs Clemson 1984 was a day game. When Butler hit the field goal everyone in the student section threw their drinks into the air and the smell of bourbon was overpowering. I remember when he hit the field goal, and it was daytime. My memory of the two days after that is a bit hazy.
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
11:20 am
Yes I can confrm a pretty good sunburned face from the Clemson game that day.
Stockdog
June 18th, 2011
11:21 am
I was at the Clemson game when Butler kicked that magnificent field goal. It was definitely a day game. I was in the student section and we all thought that it was good when it left his foot. We started screaming in excitement before the ball got to the twenty yard line. We celebrated all day and into the night.
Joe Strickland
June 18th, 2011
11:24 am
The Kevin Butler kick was a hot day game that was the shrimp on the grits of what I consider one of the greatest “runs” a college team has ever had. It started with Walker over Bates at the orange school. Thanks Herschel, Frank Ross, Terry Hoage, Kevin, and Buck. Those were the “Glory Days”.
Beast from the East
June 18th, 2011
11:26 am
The other thing you have to have to run the spread is athletic linemen. They are asked to pull quite a bit and if they aren’t very mobile then you’re going to have some d-linemen and linebackers running free into your backfield. Looking at UGA’s roster, they have some big o-linemen. Not sure how mobile they are, but it’s a totally different philosophy than what they’re used to. A few trick plays, draws, counters will keep defenses on their heels more than trying to install an entirely new offense that the coaching staff or players have zero experience with.
We (UF) will struggle some this year installing a new offense. It’s not as easy as just drawing up some plays. Spurrier was the only one I ever saw that could get away with that consistently.
nick rails
June 18th, 2011
11:28 am
I was there in ‘84 as well…great atmosphere,But the reason the game was not televised was because BOTH teams were on Probation and NONE of UGA’s games were on TV…not even the Florida game.Matter or fact it’s the last time that game was not on TV…surprised C. Felton had forgotten this.It had nothing to do with the NCAA tv limits which,I think,were thrown out of court in a lawsuit filed by UGA and Oklahoma
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
11:29 am
You “mix” it up by having a line holding thier block, everybody else being where they are supposed to be, and a QB that can recognize opportunities quicker. You don’t fool or trick anyone by sending in a a play that you practiced twice last week and it looked like crap.
No team that runs a spread type of offense successfully does so because their coaches decided to try something different every now and then. They worked on it for years, built the team around that, and struggled for a few years till they did get it down.
coop dawg
June 18th, 2011
11:37 am
If you have a newer Ipod that has fm radio, you can sync the broadcasts through the Ipod. It took me a quarter to get it right the first time but I have gotten better at it.
old man
June 18th, 2011
11:44 am
I was at that Clemson game. Who does that hick the huck thinks he is? Lewis Grizzard’s article the next day was priceless. He talked about the joy of tailgating and that if he were to have a son he would name him Kevin. One of his top 25 articles of all time.
Maconbulldog
June 18th, 2011
11:50 am
Well lets look at it this way……Would you want him to be up chucking now OR against a team that would run circles around us. I think he is going to be better for it in the long haul. Go DAWGS
whoknows
June 18th, 2011
11:51 am
GA hasn’t had a stand out back since Moreno left. They all looked good on utube yet all that changes as they transition to college. We won’t know about Crowell until he hits the field or gets hit, period.
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
11:54 am
Coop, so you can freeze/delay the radio broadcast from the Ipod/Droid?
teewest
June 18th, 2011
11:55 am
Whatever Bill!! I love how you happened to pick two questions out of a 1000 and the other 998 hate your sorry butt!!! A little Palin type stuff there huh Bill? Better than the other AJC writers??? You can not carry Mike Carvell’s jock much less someone like Tim, Steve, Mark or Jeff! Sheesh get over yourself and write one of your Fried Mark Richt stories!! THAT’S what you do best.
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
12:01 pm
Thank you Bill for not picking the “questions” that hate you. Whatever that means.
This Gets Old!
June 18th, 2011
12:09 pm
Hasn’t Georgia recruited players to fit the pro set? You can’t just pick up in summer and change the offense.
Saban
June 18th, 2011
12:19 pm
A spread offense would be a ideal offense for Georgia. Imagine they could improve to at least 6 wins a year.
Boise State 66 Dawgs 3
Saban
June 18th, 2011
12:23 pm
Of course Murray would be in the hospital by the third game and Crowell couldn`t figue it out so he go to the NFL, after recovering for his injured hangnail.
tide roll
June 18th, 2011
12:32 pm
The best running back on your team is at back up inside linebacker. Richard Samuel (6′2″ 230 lb.) would be perfect in the “Wilddawg” formation. A North/South bruiser who’s explosive as well. (80 yd. TD run vs. Ark as a freshman!). Would be perfect dotting the “I” as well. Would be nearly impossible to stop running behind Figgins and huge offensive line. Opponents would finally have to respect Uga’s running game, which would open things up for Murray. Also, this kid Armarlo Herrera is the real deal, so there would be no depth issue at linebacker when Samuel is moved. The kid’s future is at running back. If Richt and Bobo are not willing to do the right thing by the kid, he’s still young enough to transfer, sit a year and then light it up. Maybe dot the “I” for Butch Davis at UNC. The kid has a future in the league, AT RUNNING BACK!
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
12:46 pm
tide, I guess you are going with the: 9th time is the charm, with that post huh.
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 18th, 2011
1:09 pm
Good catch AltamahaDawg! lol.Jenkins looking good?Sweet music to my ears!
tide roll
June 18th, 2011
1:09 pm
You guys kill me. It’s obvious that Samuel could help at least in a direct snap formation. Especially on short yardage situations. Richt and Bobo make such glaring mistakes regarding personnel. It should be troubling to Uga fans, to say the least, for Richt to disclose prior to the Auburn Game that he and Bobo STILL evaluated Cam Newton as a tight end. The guy owns up to his blunder publically, and you UGA fans just take it in stride. Newton at tight end and Richard Samuel as a back up inside linebacker is hilarious. What does it take to embarrass you Kool Aiders!? Samuel needs to get out of that nut house, and thank goodness Newton avoided ya’ll like the plague. The Richt/Bobo brain trust would have prevented all of us from witnessing the greatest combo quarterback in college football history!!
cantondawg
June 18th, 2011
1:11 pm
I’m not for the “Spread” being our base offense however i would like to see us implement it maybe 10-20% of the time.
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
1:37 pm
I would prefer we just ran our base offense 10-20% better.
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
1:38 pm
I also am glad Cam Newton avoided coming here.
Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville
June 18th, 2011
1:39 pm
It would make Georgia less predictable — a real problem at times with Mike Bobo calling the signals
Wow
I guess a sports writer see’s the same thing Ive been talking about and why good defenses shut us down
This is why I dont drink the kool-aid that we will play for the East. This staff needs other teams like usual to beat each other up and hope that gets them in instead of beating them head to head
Troll Power Ratings
June 18th, 2011
1:46 pm
Saban and tide roll give the term “troll” a bad name. So, let’s go with Moron Power Ratings. Those two are tied for first. I don’t expect either can be unseated.
rioj
June 18th, 2011
1:46 pm
Richard Samuel is too tight in the hips to play tb in the SEC. His straight ahead bruising style makes him a perfect lb.
JT
June 18th, 2011
1:47 pm
nick rails, UGA was not on probation during the ‘84 season. That came down after the season and did not affect TV appearances when it did. It was my freshman year and I remember our fraternity in fact renting one of those big ‘ol projection TV’s to watch the ‘84 Georgia Florida game. Wish we hadn’t as Florida kicked our butts, but we got ‘em back the next year.
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
1:55 pm
projection TVs. Ha.Forgot about renting those back then. yea, we’ll take the insurance.
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 18th, 2011
2:11 pm
Tide Roll,
Direct situations huh? Why doesn’t he just put a sign on his jersey that says, “hey defense, you know the ball is coming to me, since you don’t see me back here very much and only on plays snapped to me” “go ahead and take me down”
What part of he is more suited for LB do you not understand. It is what he wanted to do when he signed on at UGA. Perhaps Nick Saban could utilize your extraordinary play calling skills, but I think I would rather rely on our coaches to get it done.
1eyedJack
June 18th, 2011
2:17 pm
Ahhhh….morning football practice in South Georgia. It’s 7 am and already 90 degrees with 70% humidity. The air is alive with the buzzing sound of gnats and the practice field shimmers in it’s red clay and rocks glory.
We used to take bets in the locker room on who would be the first to blow grits. Usually happened about the third warmup lap around the field.
Rich
June 18th, 2011
2:27 pm
If anything we should utilize the pistol or use a more west coast style pro-offense.
DAWG with two bags over head
June 18th, 2011
2:48 pm
Bill.
Like many others that have posted, I too was at the ‘84 Clemson game. As I recall the game started at 1:30, the time God intended to play college football (another great Sanford Stadium tradition lost to network money grubbing). Contrary to what some have said, the game was on TV. In fact I have a VHS video of the game and the kick.
polskidawg
June 18th, 2011
3:08 pm
Spread? No thanks. It’s either full-time or none to be successful.
Butler kick in 1984 was day game, as mentioned by several. I thought the upper deck was going to fall on the lower deck when it went through the goal posts (it would have been good for 70 yards, truly).
Help me out 40’s and older Dawgs – I thought the first night game at Sanford was the UCLA game of 1983? I was a painted, medicated sophomore at the game. It rained cats and dogs, I believe in the second quarter. Wasn’t that the first night game?
JDawg1785
June 18th, 2011
3:17 pm
Good to hear that Joe T. is having his way with Crowell. This ought to pay dividends for him come September.
7576DAWG
June 18th, 2011
3:20 pm
#1 recruit don’t get special treatment
Thanks for the update. At least we know the kids aren’t being treated like it’s summer camp. It’s nice to think the coaches are taking their failures last year serious and that they seemed to have been embarrassed as much as the Bulldawg nation was about not being physically fit enough to compete in the SEC.
nick rails
June 18th, 2011
3:28 pm
‘84 game was not on because of Clemson’s probation…you’re right ours was not til ‘85 but the ‘85 Florida wasn’t onTV because of our 85 probation.
Never play the game
June 18th, 2011
3:33 pm
ONE obvioust thing of QB short gunning is the D will not blitz as much. And his height is no longer his is handicapt, just a common sense right?
nick rails
June 18th, 2011
3:35 pm
The ‘84 clemson was NOT televised.If anyone has a video tape it would have been some type of tape delay rebroadcast.Or a game film.I think if anyone would know Claude Felton would
tom
June 18th, 2011
3:35 pm
Good info on the weight room. no big deal about crowell puking. gotta find out if he is tough now. that is what the weight room is all about. mental toughness. those SEC defenses aint gonna take it easy on him, glad Joe T aint either
nick rails
June 18th, 2011
3:37 pm
‘84 game was not on because of Clemson’s probation…you’re right ours was not til ‘85 but the ‘85 Florida wasn’t onTV because of Florida’s 85 probation.
Dawg 1
June 18th, 2011
3:38 pm
Forget the spread. You have a smart QB and an average line (at least this is what we are being told). Focus very hard on conditioning and run the ‘no huddle’ in the heat. Wear your opponent down and be patient, knowing you might fall behind early.
CMR wanted to run the no huddle when he first came to UGA and the refs pretty much wouldn’t let him do it – always slowing the play down to allow the defense to catch up. You see more and more of in the SEC now and he has gone from the rookie to the Dean of the coaches in the league. Run the ‘no huddle’…
Never play the game
June 18th, 2011
3:44 pm
Sorry for extra t and is.
huh?
June 18th, 2011
3:47 pm
Uh, Tide Roll they tried Samuel at RB and it didn’t work. Quit posting on things you know nothing about. Like football.
ugakev
June 18th, 2011
3:55 pm
Its june 18th and NO ARREST…..GO DAWGS!!!
DIT
June 18th, 2011
4:12 pm
@polskidawg
I remember that UCLA game! It did absolutley pour during that game, yet not one soul left that stadium. It was loud. I remember Donahue, UCLA coach, that next day say that he has never been in such a loud stadium before in his life. He could not wait to get out of Athens!
bigcalidawg
June 18th, 2011
4:18 pm
TideRoll,
Are you as familiar with your own team, as ours? I question your intelligence, integrity, and believe you have nowhere else to go than on our blog.
Have a blessed day
chickenman
June 18th, 2011
4:25 pm
Crowell for Heisman
'Real Dawgs eat gator meat (kool aid is foolade) drink POWERADE 2 !!....
June 18th, 2011
4:29 pm
This is nonsense, talking about the Dawgs running a spread offense because they don’t have the personnel, offensive line or coaching to run it. I have been in observation of MR’s fast break dump pass first offenses for over 20 years and even when it was working it had to be heavily altered for Charlie Ward to use all his elusiveness and agility to keep plays alive after protection broke down. The truth is that Richt coached offensive lines simply cannot run block effectively and consistently to pound the ball down opponents throats SEC-style. The Miami Hurricanes used to relish playing against MR’s finnese, rabbit punch, fast break offense, that closely resembled the old Buffalo Bill’s K-gun attack that slaughtered inferior opponents during the season, but lost four consecutive Super Bowls against well coached, well prepared teams. Georgia in a spread attack ? Get real ! We all saw Florida struggle last year with the wrong personnel running the wrong offense. The results would be identical at Georgia and they would be lucky to go 5-7. The current offensive coaching staff already has enough problems Bill, please don’t give these rocket scientists any new ideas to continue screwing up Georgia. Good try but this is just more desperate, delusional, and wishful thinking, which is virtually useless to clean up the offensive mess at UGa. Right now the HotSeat rules are on in Athens.
double dawg
June 18th, 2011
4:35 pm
To 1962 Dawg-It’s always good to hear from another vet! I bet there was some spilled beer that day at the VFW post! A lot of adult beverages were spilled arond my seats the moment the ball was airborne-as other people have said, the kick immediately looked good. At the time no one imagined Kevin and Perry would be teammates and Super Bowl champions the next year.
I hope all of you have seen the list of Dawgs KIA-it’s at the northeast corner of the practice fields across from the coliseum.
JCuevas
June 18th, 2011
4:41 pm
Murray wouldn’t actually have to run that much or take that many extra hits. We would just run a lot of three or four wide receiver sets, split the TE either wide or into the slot regularly, and have the O-line increase their spreads. Orson Charles is the perfect TE to split wide and he’d create nightmare matchups for LBs and strong safeties. He’d have a ton of room in the deep creases if the LBs are spread across the field. If the defense chose to use only two LBs, then Charles would manhandle the smaller DBs.
Murray could work from the shotgun a lot and roll out frequently, getting the ball out of his hands quickly into zones that would be flooded with numerous receivers and backs. He’d only run if he had a lot of room and the receivers were able to drive the defense 10-15 yards off the ball. This would also open up screens and sweeps for Crowell.
I just don’t see play action or the I-formation working well if we’re getting stonewalled at the line of scrimmage regularly.
mgdawg
June 18th, 2011
5:40 pm
I like the pro style, first of all if the pros are using it then it has to be the best imo. Also, the more your offense is like the pros the better the chance your players get drafted and the better the chance you get highly touted recruits. I know there are exceptions, but overall I think this is true. I read an article last year that the offensive point totals have increased ever since bobo has taken over the playcalling, the problem is in the consistency imo. I don’t really know what to attribute that to. I love a running football team, but last year the run just wasn’t working and the pass was working so good and I couldn’t understand why it would take till the fourth quarter to start passing more. There was a bunch of games, and I think it was during that bad streak of games at the start of the season, where every first down play was a run. It was so predictable and it showed by getting only a couple of yards or losing yards.
As for the radio being out of sync, it started I think during one of munsons last years and made it really hard to do the tv radio combination. If it was the other way around and you had a dvr I guess you could rewind it afew seconds. If there was a radio with a function like a dvr that maybe the best bet.
Paddy
June 18th, 2011
5:46 pm
Let us hold our critisism of Crowell till we get into the season. Let him get his feet under him and know what is expected of players at UGA. This is true of almost all freshman. Give it sometime. My guess he will get with the program very fast!
JCuevas
June 18th, 2011
5:59 pm
For those arguing against a radical change in offensive game planning, the question is what will be different between the 2010 team that scored zero (0) touchdowns against the University of Central Florida (UCF?!) and this year’s team? There are two differences that I can think of- We’ll no longer have the best WR in the country, and we will have a freshman running back who might be explosive (might be). Nothing there tells me we should expect improved results by implementing the same offense. There’s no reason to believe our offensive line will be significantly better. Play action does not work if you can’t pick up consistent (or any) yardage between the tackles and nothing indicates we can. However, we may be able to take better advantage of our playmaking weapons by opening it up. If not, why would you expect different results when everything else is the same?
LagDawg
June 18th, 2011
6:13 pm
I don’t know about the spread but, they need to do something to speed up the offense and keep defenses on their heels. UGA will have a lot of weapons on the offensive side of the ball, so Bobo needs to learn how to utilize them. The offense is too slow and too predictable and this will get you beat in the SEC. UGA must be very active on both sides of the ball. They have to play smart and tough and deliver big hits on the defensive side of the ball to strike fear into the opposing teams offense. The Pro Set offense will work but, you must be very creative to keep the other team’s defense off balance.
dawgster
June 18th, 2011
6:34 pm
@Chalky…are you the same Chalky that may have lived on the east side of Athens in the late 60’s…didn’t mean to get personal, but had a childhood friend that went by that name and haven’t heard it since….go dawgs
TJ
June 18th, 2011
6:55 pm
Got to figure out a way to DOUBLE the rushing yards against winning teams from 100 last year to 200 this year, if you want to be in the race.
Need to speed up the offense, fast enough to get in 40 rushes instead of 30 last year (12th in SEC against winning teams in # of running plays called per game). Top SEC teams ALL get 40+ runs a game against winning teams.
40 runs x 5 yards a carry = 200 yards a game
I don’t care if crowell gets em all, split with King or Branden Smith or Murray getting 100 like Newton did per game last year, just got to do something DIFFERENT.
11th in SEC in rushing against wining teams is pathetic.
King & Ealey both got @5 ypc, Murray got 2 ypc, so acutal run plays need to be called for Murray, not scrambles to avoid sacks. Bootlegs, draws, delayed draws, etc.
If you don’t run Murray, and figure out a way to get him over 5 ypc, you’re wasting 50% of his skills.
Yes, he could get injured, but very, very unlikely.
If he did, Mason & Lemay are capable.
C from Marietta
June 18th, 2011
6:58 pm
I think they should:
Offense – score as many points as they can
Defense – Stop the other team from scoring.
CHUCK UGA
June 18th, 2011
7:19 pm
Scott Howard is fantastic with basketball but an absolutely horrendous football announcer. Probably the worst in the SEC. Zeier is fantastic as a commentator and analytical genius. Howard just lacks a vocabulary for football and gets way too carried away sometimes. Embarrassing IMO. I no longer listen to radio.
MrSunshine
June 18th, 2011
7:21 pm
5 words.
Zone Read. Hurry Up Offense.
If QB reads the DE correctly, can’t stop it.
Downtown
June 18th, 2011
7:24 pm
Nick Marshall in WildDawg is a scary option. Needs to happen.
Debbytee Dawg
June 18th, 2011
7:25 pm
Yeah, maybe a spread would work out okay with the players that UGA has. I would just like to see the hurry-up offense that CMR ran 10 years ago with QB David Green; keeps the defense off guard and tends to add points. Please bring back the no-huddle offense and let’s have some fun this year!
50Bucks
June 18th, 2011
7:34 pm
Dogs offense bogged down in the Red Zone in 2010.
7 touchdown’s, all season.
South Carolina had 24.
Need to change Red Zone Offense, COMPLETELY, no one is surprised anymore.
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
7:35 pm
They changed the rules so that we can’t get the same advantage that Greene did it for.
Dawg4ever
June 18th, 2011
7:38 pm
Radio broadcast team is like the rest of UGA’s football program. It is very mediocre. Too think UGA could run the spread offense with their high school O.C. is a joke. BoBo runs the most predictable offense in the SEC. All the good Defensive Coordinators in the conference know exactly what he is going to run in certain situations. To expect any change in the offensive production this year is nothing but wishful thinking. The definition of Insane is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Richt&BoBo=Insanity. Yet UGA fans are stuck with these clowns for another boring ass year. Sad part for all UGA fans is that BoBo is probably the 8th or 9th best coordinator in the conference, and that is not going to change. Mediocrity will continue in athens as long as richt and bobo are there.
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
7:45 pm
Georgia scored 34 TD in the red zone in 2010, 20 rush, 14 pass. SC had 38.
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
7:53 pm
It’s the defintion if insanity, not insane. IF you insist on copying and repeating stuff you read, pretending it was your thought, at least get them right.
I hate Georgia
June 18th, 2011
7:54 pm
You people amaze me…….you will play in another who cares bowl game. George O’Leary beating you hicks was HYSTERICAL!!!!!
What?!?!
June 18th, 2011
8:00 pm
Has the other teams “figured out” that uga offense? No wonder your coach is on the hot seat!
suwanee dawg
June 18th, 2011
8:32 pm
84 clemson game was not live on TV. Listened on the radio with my Dad and brother on the back deck. Up there with Belue to Scott for special memories. CFB are the ties that bind…..
suwanee dawg
June 18th, 2011
8:33 pm
I hate Georgia – who is your team? where did you go to school? do you know UGA’s bowl record for the past 20 years? Your comments are very insightful.
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
9:03 pm
Can you give us the definition of high percentage too?. Not sure why you think its insane to do the same thing over and over, when that thing has been very successful the large majority of the time.
mgdawg
June 18th, 2011
9:13 pm
Offensively UGA needs to do two things I think. The first being, if something is working then go with it. How many times last year did we see the running game do nothing and the passing offense fly up and down the field. However, bobo would decide to run more then he passed and stall out the offense. If the running game is working then run, if a certain rb is hot then keep that rb in the game. Second, they have to be able to get 1-2 yards when they need it. Southerland might be as big of a loss as knowshon was. When UGA had a third and one, a fourth and one, or was at the one yard line they knew they could hand the ball to him and get that yard. It seems like the past two years when uga has needed that one yard and they decided to run it, they’ve been stuffed. I know a lot of this goes to the Oline, but southerland would run over a guy.
If those two things were fixed, I think a drastic improvement in the offense would be seen.
AltamahaDawg
June 18th, 2011
9:13 pm
Very glad to read that Richt is giving up his vaction to go help the poor in Honduras. UGA football was never as good as when he was allowed to be the type of person he needs to be. When he was pressured to give that type of stuff up, (Evans?) they have never been as good.
crowell is soft
June 18th, 2011
9:45 pm
i posted it a few weeks ago, and I’ll stick by it – Crowell will not work hard enough to get himself in shape. he’s not hungry. he’s resting on his HS accomplishments and thinks he’s made it already.
i smell a flop. cannot trust these press conference recruits
UGA '05
June 18th, 2011
10:11 pm
Sounds like Crowell didn’t do the recruiting workouts before he came to UGA like he was supposed to. And now he’s paying for it. He better pick it up and eat well or he won”t be ready to play.
South Dawg
June 18th, 2011
10:15 pm
With the spread offense with Murray and a powerful running game with Crowell, the Dawg offense will be unstoppable! This dawg team will easily win the SEC east and play alabama for the title in December—book it!
tiger7_88
June 18th, 2011
10:18 pm
@Beast from the East (June 18th, 2011, 11:26 am) is exactly right.
If you ain’t got this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZmTNMS6syI , on your o-line, don’t bother running a spread offense.
ray goff for next coach
June 18th, 2011
10:19 pm
get Clemson back on the schedule
Another Back that will be a bust
June 18th, 2011
10:36 pm
Sounds like Crowell isn going to pan out. Oh well just another bust till UGA recruits the next we’ve heard it before Herschel Walker.
Mudcatjoe
June 18th, 2011
10:38 pm
The spread? Always trying to copy Georgia Tech in everything! Forget it, your coach isn’t smart enough! Hahahahahahah!!!!
Bob
June 18th, 2011
10:49 pm
The think the first modern day night game was Clemson in 1982. Clemson won the national title in 1981 and we had won it the year before. We won a very close game but I don’t remember the score. I remember the game being hyped playing the song “Eye of the Tiger” over and over the week leading up to kickoff. My dad and I went in motor home and arrived the day before the game and did not leave until the day after.
Ya'll are funny (you UGA people)
June 18th, 2011
10:56 pm
I’m just sayin….
Bob
June 18th, 2011
11:02 pm
I may be wrong about this but it seems like that first night game may have even been on a work/school night light the Monday of Labor Day weekend 1982?
ugab
June 18th, 2011
11:03 pm
We can not run anything with MR.
it starts w the lines
ugab
June 18th, 2011
11:09 pm
If we had a real coach he would skip his vacation and earn his millions and coach this team and make them believe we are proud to be a ga bulldawg. but we dont have that do we. we are goin to take a break after we had a terrible season. hahahahahhahaha Coaches like saban do not take time off wen ur team sux. the dawgs are going to get there ass wupped by boise and sc. if u follow the dawgs we SUCK. WE AS FANS ARE EMBARRASSEDD TO BE SUPPORT A TEAM 4 4 YEARS THAT SUCKED. 4 YRS. NOT 1. THE GA BULLDAWGS COACHES AND TEAM SUK.
Nick
June 18th, 2011
11:11 pm
I am a bama fan, we lost to La tech at home 24 months ago, and we still suck. I would rather be a fan for any respectable team, I hate all these backward rednecks I have to be around every darn fall.
Nick
June 18th, 2011
11:15 pm
Man all that writing and your main point is wrong, it’s 2 yrs, not 4 ugab! Come on moron!
2007 was 4 yrs ago, sorry you can’t add, obvious toys went to another school, not GA. In 2007……
uga won 11 games and sugar bowl in
2008 (3 yrs ago for us smart people with math skills)
Uga won 10 games and capital one bowl. But yes, last 2 yrs this team has not been very good. I agree.
Hey ugab...
June 18th, 2011
11:20 pm
09 and 10 seasons were bad, check your math on that (4) yrs thing.
Obvious math skills of a bama grad! While uga won sugar bowl in 07 Saban was losing at home to LA Monroe at home, or whoever whipped em’ at home. And 08 was maybe a let down, but 10 wins turned in, not too shabby. Facts suck don’t they!!!
teams go through ups and downs, hard for non-athletes to get that I guess.
DostaDawg
June 18th, 2011
11:50 pm
I was at that Clemson game. It was a very hot day in Athens. I had a Clemson fan two rows behind me who was loud and obnoxious all day. He kept yelling”refrigerator this, refrigerator that”. When Butler lined up to try the kick, he was laughing and saying there was no way anyone could kick it that far. Well, old Kevin made it with room to spare.
I turned around and told him: “I think we just defrosted the refrigerator.” That felt so good.
GOD; I HATE CLEMSON.
AND FLORIDA
AND AUBURN
AND TENNESSEE
AND SPURRIER
Still@theBAR
June 18th, 2011
11:55 pm
I just looked back at the UGA’s. Sonny Seiler what did you do to this breed? From the 50’s to the early 70’s the Uga’s were great looking. What did you do?
bitter noose picker in L/A----(lower alabamma)
June 19th, 2011
12:09 am
a true bogger —tolit bowl tide———————–get a real job—try wal-mart
Talent Rules
June 19th, 2011
12:48 am
With all this talent that Richt has built up, the only team on Ga’s schedule that can match them is south carolina. Florida’s way down and Richt will take muschamp to school in jacksonville. If Ga upsets USC, they will win the east. This could be a BCS year for the dawgs.
LakeDawg
June 19th, 2011
1:41 am
The spread is a gimmick offense that is on the way out in the SEC. AU will now start a slide until cheatznik/malzone are fired. Urban Meyer saw the handwriting on the wall. If a team has superior talent, the pro set is the best most versatile offense there is. The spread is for teams with unique QB’s and an offense that gives teams with inferior talent a shot at playing with the big boys ala the wishbone in the 70’s. However, like the wishbone, defenses are catching on.
athdog
June 19th, 2011
2:55 am
It is funny to this day. Last year my son and I, he’s 14, were coming back to Atlanta and listening to the Dogs play a road game. We were calling the plays for Georgia and 80 percent of the time were right. If two fans can figure out what we do, I’m guessing a D coordinator studying film all week can figure it out, also. Bobo has gotten very predictable over the years. Need to shake it up this year, or we are doomed to another mediocre season.
Heeldawg
June 19th, 2011
6:14 am
First night game was 1982 Clemson, matching the previous two years’ national champs. Herschel played with a broken thumb in limited duty, the Dawgs blocked a punt, and Georgia won 13-7.
I have to agree with the Beast’s post– we don’t have the OL personnel to run the spread on a consistent basis. We could run some Wildcat, but not with Murray (too small) or Samuel (can’t throw). Maybe with that new kid out of Wilcox County. Having a few more quick slants, using the backs and tight ends more and going with a ball-control-style offense will accomplish what you want to do with the spread without re-tooling the entire offensive package.
Crowell will be fine by kickoff. High school and college ain’t the same thing.
Samuel will be a great LB before it is all over. That’s his NFL future. He’s not an SEC running back–fast, but stiff, and goes down on first contact. He brings the wood at LB, though–had a killer tackle on a KOR last season.
UCLA game was a day game. I was there. Rained cats and dogs. Charlie Dean ran an INT back for a TD, if I recall correctly.
doug
June 19th, 2011
6:52 am
Run the spread. They wont win any NCs anyway with Richt and Bobo but they could be more exiting.
Nub
June 19th, 2011
7:04 am
Hope the dream team can come in and make a big difference…. The G Day game was a mirror image of last year…. Very few bright spots …. Including the o play calling ….
nick rails
June 19th, 2011
7:24 am
Mudcatjoe,umn Tech doesn’t run the spread offeanse or any version of it.
Joe
June 19th, 2011
8:23 am
Find something, work on it, stick with it, perfect it, and win. Quit experimenting and moving people around and wasting talent moving them from offense to defense etc. Perfection is running the Lombardi sweep over and over and over until it is works. No changes just do it. Find something that works and stick with it. The sign of a great team is running a play over and over and the defense knows what it is and still cannot stop it. Everyone knew when Tebow and Newton were going to run the ball or pass the ball…They were never stopped with what they did. Find something the successful plays the dawgs can run and stick with them..
JT
June 19th, 2011
8:33 am
Samuel???? His character is too good to be a running back. He was benched because he was younger than the all everything thug that was an incoming freshman that was supposed to be the next best thing. He was used as a 17 year old to run the ball 23 times and return kickoffs as a freshman against tech and everyone trashed him for fumbling once. Sat out last year to become a linebacker, demoted when the best safety freshman in recent years was moved to lb. and now Samuel is second string and we are needing stronger and better safeties???? I know Samuel has two years left but even then he will play his senior year as a young fifth year senior at the young age of 21. Terrible waste of talent.
joe
June 19th, 2011
8:56 am
Roll Tide, you made one mistake. Samuel was a Sophomore when he started as a Runningback. He ran the ball 23 times as a freshman in mock up duty vs the “Little Sisters”. He also was on Kickoff teams. He had just turned 17 since he was an early January enrollee. He will be a fifth year senior at the ripe age of 21. KING, EALEY, played as 18 19 year old seniors. Talk about not developing a player who was a top notch great character kid. They erred big time with Samuel. Moving Ogletree from safety when we need help at safety just to see him make tackles and weaken our safety and put Samuel as a backup is an absolute disgrace as a coaching staff.
joe
June 19th, 2011
8:59 am
Roll Tide, King and Ealey were 19 year old Seniors in HS.
I was there @ that Clemson game
June 19th, 2011
9:02 am
I was at the Clemson game. What i do recall more than Butler’s looooooooooooong kick ( toward the bridge it was) were the two Scott Woerner runs after pics that went nearly 70 yds each time. He did not score but he ran one back from the north corner on the 12 yd. line approx. near the RR tracks ( in those days) toward the bridge. It was a great run. I think the other pic was opposite direction in the middle of the field but do not recall. Sat right behind the UGA bench with my in laws and they loved going to UGA games with my wife and our UGA alum gang back then.
Those UGA guys simply were competitive and played to win. Today a coach that can keep these kids focused is the one that will win NCs and AU did it last season. It is clearly tough, focused, hard nosed coaching and players taking a hand in the leadership and that UGA team had it all.
Today’s kids are simply not tough enough. Neither is the UGA staff. Crowell heaving is disgusting. He likely consumed a huge fat boy pizza before he did weight training. Joe T will work his a– off and if he is not ready …………… he will sit.
Old school Dog
UGA 71 & 73
dap01
June 19th, 2011
9:34 am
Bobo already calls the offense like a flag football game. Forget the spread and run the ball.
Bob
June 19th, 2011
9:36 am
UCLA may have started during daylight but I clearly remember it ending at night. It rained heavily during the game I was cold and soaking wet afterward. And we won.
Snoop Dawg
June 19th, 2011
9:49 am
If you really want a case study of Mark Richt, just look at Richard Samuel. Read all the blogs on him today. If you think that this is being a coach or a leader, and you graduated from UGA, please send your diploma back to Dr Michael Adams because you learned nothing in school.
Here’s the problem:
1. Richt can’t assess talent.
2. Richt can’t train up talent.
3. Richt plays his favorites instead of those who work hardest/perform best.
4. Richt follows the union rules of playing more senior players over more deserving junior players.
5. Richt does not motivate the team, prefering to pose as a Buddha on the sidelines instead of supplying his team active motivation and energy.
6. Richt the CEO does not provide active leadership to the team.
If this is what you seek in your head coach, then don’t complain about losing to teams like Central Florida, Boise State, and Mississippi State. Get used to mediocre or losing seasons.
If you want championships, demand change NOW. If not, then be a Mark Richt codependent and enabler. Another season is about to be wasted when we have the easiest schedule in one hundred years.
Harsh Reality
June 19th, 2011
9:58 am
Crowell is vomiting because he suddenly realized what a crappy place UGA is. That realization would make anyone sick to their stomach.
Snoop Dawg
June 19th, 2011
9:59 am
Harsh Reality, you sound like a Techster. Don’t worry about Athens. The ghetto is the place for you, my friend…
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 19th, 2011
10:04 am
Snoop Dawg the fraud strikes again!For the record there Snoopy…..UGA had more kids drafted in the 1st 4 rds of the NFL draft than any team in the SEC during Richt’s tenure.Talent evaluation has never been a Richt issue.For a guy who is supposed to be a UGA grad….you don’t seem to know much about UGA.
Carl Spackler
June 19th, 2011
10:06 am
To me (now get the “TO ME’) the Wild-Cat is a gimmick play…fake field goal, fake punt, on-side kick, whatever, but unless you have the QB still behind center, then why would you take the chance of a RB, WR, etc. taking a snap… what with the pressure involved of looking across the line at some huge down linemen, LB’s, CB,s, SS’s jumping up and out of holes faking blitz and still trying to look the ball into their hands…heck, QB’s feel the pressure in these types of situations, let alone a player pulled from his natural position and stuck in the wildcat formation…now, if you allow Murray to run the wildcat, then I agree that it could be a workable play…I have to laugh at everyone thinking that Murray is too small and can’t take hits, yet the Neb & Mich QB’s who are smaller, or similar in size to Murray are somehow tough enough to take the hits…so, unless there is some element of surprise, then let the wildcat caged up on the sidelines…just my thoughts
Gator Gus
June 19th, 2011
10:20 am
Coach Richt shouldn’t change a thing.
Nothing is wrong.
Joey
June 19th, 2011
10:23 am
“…why would you take the chance of a RB, WR, etc. taking a snap…”
**************************************
Carl, it worked pretty well last season in Jax, when the worst UF team in 20 years snapped the ball to about 7 different players, and, once again defeated UGA . . .
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 19th, 2011
10:24 am
another back,
You might want to wait until he hits the field. Right now he just got an introduction into big boy conditioning but he has yet to run a play in practice or for real.
JT
June 19th, 2011
10:26 am
Let’s wait until Murray beats at least 1 winning team before we crown him.
Gator Gus
June 19th, 2011
10:27 am
UGA will be much improved now that Richt promoted the Video Editor to head up the UGA Strength & Conditioning program.
Great move.
YBack
June 19th, 2011
10:28 am
Richt’s too arrogant to change his offense.
Ain’t gonna happen.
Too much ego.
Too much pride.
Too little humilty.
Dixie Redcoat Band
June 19th, 2011
10:35 am
Well, who wasn’t at the ‘84 game? Just don’t make us play UCF again.
Snoop Dawg
June 19th, 2011
10:39 am
SouthGaDawg,
Do you think Richt deserves credit for those players that got drafted? I don’t. The question is why isn’t there a lot more?
How many football players from Georgia are playing in the NFL compared to how many from UGA?
You are one of those codependent enablers I talked about.
If you have a degree by any chance, send it back.
Gadzooks
June 19th, 2011
10:45 am
Boise State 67, Georgia 17.
Bye bye, Richt, and good riddance!
Snoop Dawg
June 19th, 2011
10:48 am
I believe that Mark Richt and Water Girl are blogging under assumed names like SouthgeorgiaDawg, Altamaha Dawg, and It Ain’t Rocket Science. The Mark Richt Friend and Family program is like the Clinton War Room. Always respond swiftly to criticism by deflecting the true questions.
Don’t fall for it.
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 19th, 2011
10:56 am
You can’t have it both ways Snoop.If you want to say the man can’t evaluate talent ok …but when the facts show he’s had more kids drafted than his peers… all of a sudden he doesn’t deserve credit for it?200 plus Georgia kids sign scholarships every year…..how can he sign all of them?
Beast from the East
June 19th, 2011
11:00 am
To all the dad’s out there, Happy Father’s Day.
If you’re fortunate enough to still have your father around, don’t forget to call him today!
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 19th, 2011
11:02 am
If UGA went 13-0 the Snoops of the world would say.. so what?Georgia has all this talent this should be EXPECTED every year.
UGA72
June 19th, 2011
11:31 am
With all the talent at tight end, it would be nice to see an offense based on multiple tight end formations run often this season. Defenses would have a harder time adjusting to this formation than they would with the spread IMHO.
themaninblack
June 19th, 2011
11:44 am
One of the fun things to do is read this blog because the only “good” you ever read is when they start reliving the good ol’ days of HW and Butler. When it comes right down to it…THuga has only had at best 3 or 4 great seasons. Only the media keeps them listed as some sort of SEC contender every year because they have the entire state of Georgia as fans. Reality is, the early 80’s are the only time the program has been relevant.
Frosty Dawg
June 19th, 2011
12:00 pm
Perhaps an occasional spread is a good idea, but I’d much rather the Dawgs focus on high performance than change in process. It really gets down to fundamentals: throw the blocks, run through the holes and follow your downfield blockers, pass accurately or not at all, make the catch and retain possession. If any one scheme was always superior to all other schemes, all teams would run the one scheme all the time.
And, oh yeah–get in shape by game time! Those wringing their hands over Crowell’s bouts with Ralph need to remember that a veteran O Lineman (Nat Hudson) reportedly had to help a green freshman named Walker finish his first set of laps. College ball is a step up. We’ll see how the new guys do vs. Boise and SC. That’s all that counts.
tide roll
June 19th, 2011
12:10 pm
Richard Samuel, in 9 games as a Sr. rushed for 1430 yards on only 165 carries for an 8.7 yrd/carry average.and 24 touchdowns! Long run of 76 yards. In two years, nearly 3000 yards rushing and 43 touchdowns! Had 80 yard touchdowm run vs. Ark as a soph! He hasn’t played linebacker since high school! Never in the history of the SEC has a player been able to convert to an SEC calibre linebacker after that kind of layoff.(4yrs.) What is Richt/Bobo brain trust doing !?
tide roll
June 19th, 2011
12:11 pm
It’s hard to trust those two, isn’t it.
nick rails
June 19th, 2011
12:29 pm
So now Richard Samuel is the 2nd coming???LOL
The kid is right where he deserves to be.And I hope he’s grown up.Off season conditioning was a joke to the kid.The coaches gave him specific workouts for him to do (because of his broken wrist)He showed up but didn’t want. ANYTHING to do with lifting or conditioning and used the wrist as a constant excuse.I heard this directly from a walk-on who was busting his butt in there everyday in hopes of just getting to suit up in a game.Yea,I know,its all BS.
I have heard his attitude has changed thanks several Coach T conversations.
Let’s hope the kid has worked hard enough to EARN playing time.
old time dog
June 19th, 2011
12:40 pm
tide roll will continue to spew his UGA bashing along with his GT plasmas because he needs help in the worst of ways. I have never cared for Richt or his hair or sunglasses as they seemed to take precedent over his obligation of coaching and running a collegiate program. Hope he has matured as a coach and the same holds true for Bobo. Richt and company have ran around with their head up their ass in a whole lot of ways. They have not shown or provided any measure of attack on either side of the ball. Big salaries should be earned before they are spooned out. Would like to see this staff show they can actually coach.
7576DAWG
June 19th, 2011
1:29 pm
old time dog
I agree with some of what you say. CMR main problem is that he is stubborn like picking Willie Martinez over Van Gorder and once he found out that Martinez didn’t have what it took to be a defensive coordinator stubbornly taking 3 years to fire him because Martinez was his best friend. The same thing is happening with Bobo right now. His background never showed he deserved to be promoted to offensive coordinator but CMR let friendship be the contributing factor in giving Bobo the promotion.All coaches are not meant to be coordinator. The same holds true with all coordinator are not meant to be head coaches. I don’t know if Bobo will ever demonstrate if he can be a 1-A coordinator but as many coordinator and head coaching job that have come open in 1-A and 1AA football in the last two years if he was perceived by other school as doing a good job you would think at least one other school would have asked to interview him for a job opening .
I think that CMR has staked his future with UGA by keeping Bobo this year. Now that McGarity has been at UGA a year unless our offense shows a lot more control of games I think Bobo will be replaced and if Richt doesn’t like it he may have to go too.
I hope Bobo went to coordinator school since last year on how to not panic and be able to control a game and it’s outcome.
LAKE OCONEE DAWG
June 19th, 2011
1:32 pm
old time dog:
THESE GUYS HAVE WON THE SEC TWICE AND WON 90 GAMES IN 9 YEARS…UGA IS NOT NATIONAL CHAMPIONS EVERY 2-3 YEARS, KNOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT FOR BRAGGING RIGHTS, BUT YOU DON’T—GET OVER IT!!!…IN MODERN DAY, NEVER WON BUT ONE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP…DID END UP #2 AFTER THRASHING HAWAII…MAYBE YOU WILL SHARE WITH US WHO THAT MATURE COACH IS OUT THERE WHO COULD LEAD US TO A NC…I THINK THESE SALARIES WERE EARNED, AND THEY WOULD BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU THEY HAVE NOT BEEN THE LEAST BIT SATIFIED THE PAST 2 YEARS…THEY BEAT BAMA TWICE AND LSU AND AUBURN SEVERAL TIMES ALSO…WE DID NOT BUY OUR QB, AND WE DID NOT SIGN 38 GUYS AND SEND GUYS PACKING WHO WERE ON SCHOLARSHIP…CMR DON’T DO IT THAT WAY…
LAKE OCONEE DAWG
June 19th, 2011
1:37 pm
7576DAWG:
HOW CAN WE TAKE YOUR COMMENTS SERIOUSLY WHEN YOU SAY RICHT PICKED MARTINEZ OVER VAN GORDER TO BE THE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR….VAN GORDER COULD HAVE BEEN THE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR FOREVER AT UGA UNDER RICHT…VAN GORDER HEADED OFF TO THE PROS…YOU GOT TO GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT IF YOU WANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY…THINK RICHT WOULD SEND A GUY PACKING LIKE VAN GORDER WHO HAD BEEN AS SUCCESSFUL AS VAN GORDER HAD BEEN AND PUT A GUY IN HIS PLACE WHO WAS THE SECONDARY COACH…YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING….
7576DAWG
June 19th, 2011
1:39 pm
I can’t wait to see how good our defense is.this year. We certainly have the depth to shut down anyone. I think we will find out Grantham’s defense will keep us in every game and the offense will only have to score 18 to 24 points to win, like the old Junkyard Dawgs use to do.
LAKE OCONEE DAWG
June 19th, 2011
1:45 pm
7576DAWG:
Yea, the defense was great last year against Tech…They score 41 points without Nesbitt in the game playing QB…It might have gone in the 60’s had Nesbitt played….
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 19th, 2011
1:46 pm
Man take the caps off!
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 19th, 2011
1:48 pm
Maybe it’s just me…… but I thought UGA beat GT 42-34 last year.
7576DAWG
June 19th, 2011
1:48 pm
LAKE OCONEE DAWG
I don’t think very much effort was given by CMR to keep Van Gorder and it didn’t take long for Richt to promote his best friend. I said back then and I will still say that if your head coach can make 3 million your offensive and defensive coordinators are worth at least halk of that. To keep a great coordinator
old time dog
June 19th, 2011
1:49 pm
L O dawg, Seems you know alot more than me fellow. Just FYI, I saw my first game at Sanford 52 years ago and have been a pretty avid fan ever since. I am not suggesting there have been total disappointments or your stupidity of saying I expect a NC every year. What I like to see is a football team that is balanced enough to be able to line up and control their destiny on the field. No matter the argument you may have with my thoughts On Richt and co., it is readily apparent they often are outcoached and have their team unprepared for a number of opponents. I am still an UGA fan whoever runs the show, only objective and reasonable enough to spot what has been readily apparent.
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 19th, 2011
1:51 pm
The Offense scored 30pts 8 straight games with a Freshman QB and folks still complain about Bobo.Crazy
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 19th, 2011
1:52 pm
Mark Richt’s 10 year record is better than any coach in UGA history.
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 19th, 2011
1:54 pm
It has to be one of the best in College Football history.
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 19th, 2011
1:57 pm
The man’s had 1 losing seasons in over 20 years as a HC and OC.
old time dog
June 19th, 2011
2:05 pm
Great for those who like Richt as coach. I don’t. He is a good recruiter and has thus far kept us out of trouble with recruiting violations. Just feel he has not been as in sync with having control and being able to have the team ready as they should have been. I also think it is arguable that some other individual as coach, whoever that might be, could win in Athens besides Richt. Wish him and the boys good luck but still don’t think he is anything special in coaching the collegiate level. Argue away. It will not change my disdain for Richt and co.
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 19th, 2011
2:09 pm
The record speaks for itself old time dawg ..but to each it’s own I guess.
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 19th, 2011
2:11 pm
It’s hard to imagine that you weren’t upset with Vince too…. considering how mediocre we were at times back in the 70’s.
7576DAWG
June 19th, 2011
2:19 pm
I wasn’t complaining about Bobo not scoring enough. It was the way he scored and not taking eight minutes to do it which would wear down the other teams defense , which would let us control the 4th quarter.
Grantham was hired in January 2010 for the purpose of bringing in a Pro- Defense , the 3-4. He had very little to say about the 2011 recruits that sign a letter in February 2010. Grantham’s job was to take 4-3 trained players and the freshmen who were recruited for the 4-3 and retrain the entire defense to excel running the 3-4. An impossible task when you take in consideration he was hired in January 2010. Only someone delusional would think the defense wasn’t going to make a lot of mistakes last year. And they certainly did that but IT WAS EXPECTED. That’s when an experienced great offensive coordinator would have stepped up and realized that we need eight minute drives not 2 minute scoring plays. We needed to keep our defense off the field as much as possible.
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 19th, 2011
2:32 pm
We started a Freshman at QB…he went through his first two SEC road games without AJ.. a NFL 1st rd pick.31,31,41,42 that’s what we scored against our 4 biggest rivals.I thought Bobo did a great job with Murray last year.
MikeP
June 19th, 2011
2:36 pm
I haven’t read 168 responses, so apologies if this is redundant but: You can order an item online called a “Sports Radio”. It has a controller on it that allows a delay of up to ten seconds, so it’s possible to sync the radio with the TV. The Auburn games I didn’t attend last year were much more enjoyable at home by listening to the home town broadcasters while watching TV. The thing costs $49.99 plus a few dollars shipping.
Part B: It’s not necessary to have a power running QB to successfully run the spread offense. QB’s like Tebow and Newton are nice, but they’d be nice in any system. Coaches like Richt and Saban will eventually wake up and install the spread but as an Auburn fan, the longer they put it off the happier I am.
7576DAWG
June 19th, 2011
2:39 pm
I love CMR but I wish he would admit that at times Bobo seems completely lost and that being a coordinator for a top ten ,1-A college team especially in the SEC , so far, has been way over Bobo’s head.
old time dog
June 19th, 2011
2:53 pm
SWD88, I have hopes UGA comes out swinging this season. Alot of what I have read and heard is encouraging but if we are honest about it, only time will tell. I really think the defense will be better for obvious reasons and that of course helps the offense. It is conceivable that Richt has seen his shortcomings and can right the ship so to speak. I am admittedly old school in liking a strong defense and power running game. I realize balance is ideal on offense but think we have become neglectful in running the ball effectively. Not a coach, so I basically just have my theories on why this has occured. I lost favor with Richt early on with some of his decisions and way of running the program. I felt he was somewhat immature as a coach but should grow into the job. Maybe the former AD emphasized him being more the CEO type of coach and that possibly led to recent disappointments. We may never know. At any rate, it would tickle me for Richt and co. to prove me wrong. As it stands now though, he needs to get things done. Sorry for my long post.
Carl Spackler
June 19th, 2011
3:10 pm
@Joey…thanks for your thoughts on my post, however the wildcat at Florida is not treated as a gimmick play, but is used as part of their offensive scheme…Tyler Burton is pretty good as a running QB/WildCat type of player…if the defense was not so lost last year with the new 3-4, I really doubt that the wildcat formations would had been so successful against UGA…basically, every team exploited/adjusted to the last years short comings; whether is was before, or during the game(s) and it wasn’t just the wildcat formation…CTG had his hat handed to him because he didn’t have the necessary players in house to run a 3-4, and some of his key players admitted that they were “lost,” however this year should be different with a new NG and a year of experience under their belts…again thanks for the feedback
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 19th, 2011
4:38 pm
Snoop Dawg,
I am not using any other name. This is it. You must be getting paranoid because you spend so much time cutting down CMR that other folks get on your case. Maybe if you weren’t so negative you wouldn’t be so paranoid. Your comments are just too stupid to warrant me paying much attention to you, so you will have to get another angle to cover your paranoid behavior.
Dreaming On
June 19th, 2011
4:52 pm
It will be soooooo enjoyable watching Boise State destroy the dawgs’ absurdly-named dream team. After USC, it will be the nightmare team.
Say goodbye to Saint Mark!
LakeHardingDawg
June 19th, 2011
5:04 pm
I was at the Clemson game with a customer that was a Clemson fan. I was very nice and civil, because he was my customer. He never bought anything from me again. At the time he worked for Campbell Soup. It was years before I bought any Campbell Soup again.
Ga Alum 79
June 19th, 2011
5:14 pm
Yes, the O-line will make or break the dawgs this next season….also, the dream team is still a bunch of freshman with no experience….look for another long season but look out in 2 years whoever the coach…
UGADawg83
June 19th, 2011
5:33 pm
The only thing more lame than Bill’s comments are the questions he picks. AJC PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get a decent author for this blog.
Cheaters never win...
June 19th, 2011
5:36 pm
Liar, liar, pants on fire, Georgia. Keep lying and and you could be the next Ohio State.
True enough, it’s coming, and the cheaters in Athens will be exposed even worse that the Jan Kemp debacle.
In the long run, cheaters never win.
DawgByte
June 19th, 2011
6:03 pm
We don’t need a spread offense. We just need to be less predictable and a tad more creative using the pro style offense.
heeldawg
June 19th, 2011
6:22 pm
There will be doubters all summer long.
Those who think Richt would cheat are just plain wrong.
CMR may not win every game,
And Bobo’s play-calling may at times be called lame,
But a lack of coaching character is not to blame.
Can’t wait until fall.
That’s all.
DJ
June 19th, 2011
6:46 pm
a) Bobo has no clue how to beat teams with winning records:
11th in SEC in scoring
12th in to margin
10th in rushing
12th in red zone td’s
b) Murray is 0-6 against winning teams, 6-1 against losing teams.
c) Richt’s 2-9 against ranked teams last 2 seasons.
UTurnU
June 19th, 2011
6:48 pm
Richt has te program in the wrong direction.
11 wins in 2007
10 wins in 2008
8 wins in 2009
6 wins in 2010
Richt wins elss games than te year before 7 out of alst 8 seasons.
12% chance Richt wins more than 5 game sin 2011, 88% he goes 5-7 or worse.
UTurnU
June 19th, 2011
6:57 pm
Going back to 2002, from that year own, Richt’s declined worse than the season before every season except 2007.
2002 13 wins
2003 11-3 (-2 change)
2004 10-2 (-1 change)
2005 10-3 (-1 change)
2006 9-4 (-1 change)
2007 11-2 (+2 change)
2008 10-3 (-1 change)
2009 8-5 (-2 change)
2010 6-7 (-2 change)
Richt doesn’t know how to fix stuff, rarely do his plans work (1 out of last 8 years), and isn’t good at creating + seasons.
dan
June 19th, 2011
7:05 pm
If Richt goes below 8-4, he will be gone. If Richt goes above 8-4 he stays. My prediction: he’ll go exactly 8-4 which will be JUST enough prove that he has the program going in the right direction, and get to keep his job AGAIN–further prolonging the agony that is UGA football
tide roll
June 19th, 2011
7:27 pm
Uga Fans: Bobo is not lost. His job is to protect Vince Dooley’s legacy, He’s married o Barb’s niece. They probably had Sunday dinner with ‘em. An incredible conflict of interest. Richt is aware of it obviously , and allows it to continue. He’s sold you down the river. Samuel is your best running back, but Bobo endorsed the move. How can ya’ll continue to not figure it out!?
I hate Georgia
June 19th, 2011
8:02 pm
to the “fan” who asked who my team was and backed his team up with 20 bowl wins (woo hoo). I like college football, but I can’t understand why people like you go on and on about NOTHING. Nobody cares about the “wins” b/c they are who cares games? Were you in the NC hunt and or game??? NO! When you are like Alabama, Auburn, Florida, LSU, and maybe TN…..let me know. OTHER THAN THAT SHUT UP!
Class of 93
June 19th, 2011
8:22 pm
You guys are a den of fools. The fact that Bill King does not know, or no one else of you does not know, when the first modern day night game in Sanford Stadium was proves that. For the record it was Labor Day Monday Night 1982. I hope you guys keep having fun 69ing each other.
UTurnU
June 19th, 2011
8:42 pm
Richt’s 2 best years at UGA, 2002 & 2007, he had a rb get 1300+ yards rushing on 250+ carries.
Musa Smith got 1300 on 250 carrie sin 2002, Richt went 13-1.
Knowshon Moreno for 1300+ yards on 250 carries, Richt went 11-2.
Richt also beat Florida both seasons, and had a RB rush for 100 yards against Florida in 2002 & 2007, for his ONLY 2 times he has had a 100 yard rusher in the Georgia-Florida game, and only 2 times Richt has won the game.
Team Dream
June 19th, 2011
10:26 pm
sounds like Crowell has been eating too many Scrambled Dogs at Dinglewood in Columbus.
A-Ville Ranger
June 20th, 2011
12:08 am
I’ve reviewed all of Murray’s big plays from last year. While he was very good at converting broken plays. His best work was on play-action. I’m all for LITERALLY spreading the receivers out, but not running a true spread offense. I don’t know why Richt doesn’t take the whole offensive staff to Norman Oklahoma for a week during off season. The Sooners are doing a fantastic job of using the best of the spread while retaining the pro-set.
RED DOG 77
June 20th, 2011
12:35 am
“My” Dogs will be just fine this year without some silly version of the spread. We probubly have the deepest stable of Tight Ends in the nation………Big ‘ol gooduns that can block and big ‘ol gooduns that can block and catch………a former Tight End at fullback……a pretty good starting Oline, and a bunch of RS Freshmen and true Freshmen linemen ready to step-up………..I simply don’t see what all the fuss is all about…………and furthermore……is everyone forgeting about Austin Long and Brent Benedict……….both 5* studs, had some injury problems coming out of high school……but should be A OK……for Summer practice……..All Good ! ” Don’t Worry, Be Happy”……..GO DOGS………….Best to all, RED
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Teerod
June 20th, 2011
7:39 am
Naysayers. How big and bruising was QB Pat White of WVa when he ran all over the Dogs in the Chic Fillet Bowl? Certainly not in Tebow or Newton’s class.
Whiskey Breath
June 20th, 2011
8:23 am
Believe or not, Ga will never be physical as long as Mark is there. I have known it for years but trying to get rid of the kick off is one of may examples of a man that doesn’t care for physicallity of the sport.
If Mark going spend a lot of time trying to change the rules, is that really good for the SEC? I wonder if he was winning would he spend as much time trying to change the rules. The spread doesn’t really do very good against SEC teams. We are smash mouth league.
virginia dog
June 20th, 2011
8:30 am
Boys , Boys … the 84 Clemson game was a day game and not on TV because Clemson was on probation for the large amount of cheating they did to win there only national championship.
In fact Clemson was the reason the death penalty was invented because they did such a nice job using the liberal red-shirt rules of the time and bacically handled the probation so smoothly, and the football team continued to do so well that the NCAA decieded that they needed a rule with teeth. … of course ,as we know, with SMU the death penality was too hash and will never be used again.
robodawg
June 20th, 2011
8:47 am
I’ve contacted WSB before about putting a delay on the broadcast. They’re response was 1) people listening in the stadium want it live, and 2) the same thing you mention here, there is no standard delay that would satisfy all listeners.
I’ve wondered about a TiVO type delay you could apply yourself. Sounds like a big hassle though, plus you have to pay to listen to the online broadcast. Maybe the Bulldogs radio network will at least develop a setting for the online broadcast where you can specify your own delay amount. I’d love to listen to Howard and Zeier.
AltamahaDawg
June 20th, 2011
8:53 am
UH, whiskey…….he wasn’t “trying to change any rule”. He was asked an opinion of sombody else’s idea. If you are basing your absolutes on false (made up) information, what does that say about your arguments?
He’s been a football coach (and a former player) at the highest levels for decades. I’d love to see you debate the “physicallity” of the sport with him for about 2 minutes. How do you think that would go?
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 20th, 2011
8:57 am
The spread doesn’t really do well against SEC teams?I guess the 3 NC’s won by FLA and AUB don’t count.
AltamahaDawg
June 20th, 2011
8:59 am
75, I guess you simply were not paying attention when we ran the ball ineffectively time after time after time last year, in an effort to do exactly what you are saying. You don’t just “decide” you are going to keep the ball for 8 minutes. They don’t just award first downs. What did you want to do, just stubbornly punt the ball 10 times rather than taking some shots at scoring? AND Are you seriously suggesting that this staff doesn’t understand why keeping the ball longer is a good thing?
DawginLex
June 20th, 2011
9:18 am
The spread will work if you have a Tebow or a Newton.
For 2011, it would be suicide to change the offense and try and implement it before the opener.
You can put in some stuff for Nick Marshall but that is about it at this point. Get Lemay and Mason ready to play in case of injury or what I prefer, is to play more than 1 QB.
DawginLex
June 20th, 2011
9:22 am
tide roll
You are undoubtedly the biggest idiot on these blogs.
Richard Samuel was a straight ahead runner who fumbled a lot. You picking out his 1 good run against Arkansas is like me arguing with a Mormon or a Jehovah’s Witness about the Bible when they pick out one verse and want to convince me they have all the answers.
That same game against Arkansas, you conveniently forget to point out he was pulled from the game for 2 critical fumbles which is why he ultimately was benched and the redshirt was removed from Ealey.
Just go away.
Poms
June 20th, 2011
10:07 am
Murray was the #1 rated dual threat QB coming out of high school. He could potentially be a Tebow or Newton.
The zone read is 1 play, it’s not hard to learn, read the defensive end, if the defensive end takes the back, QB runs, if opposite, go to back, throw in the tight end inside counter or WR mis direction end around like Meyer did for variation.
If you’re not going to use Murray’s legs, and going to run a Boise type of offense, put Huston Mason in, he’s a 70% accurate passer, run that in high school with perfection, and can run the passing offense better than Murray.
AltamahaDawg
June 20th, 2011
10:08 am
Correct it would be suicide. And not just going to the spread. It would have been suicide to fire Bobo and hire ANY new co-ordinator (with a new philosophy)this year. IF there are any changes made to the offense it will be NEXT year, when the learning curve on the other side of the ball is clearly behind them.
Big Dawg
June 20th, 2011
10:13 am
Tide Roll with all due respect,
I normally agree with you on things concerning our offensive line, but on Richard Samuels you are all wrong. IMHO it was a BIG TIME WASTE and MISTAKE to have allowed him to try being a running back, first he fumbled to much, he missed blocks, he went down whether he was hit or not a lot, he ran straight up and seemed to trip over his own feet at times. He is a much better linebacker and we wasted two plus years of his eligibilty because the coaches gave in and allowed him to try being a running back. Yes he is very fast, but not well suited to play running back and having seen him in high school, on TV at UGA and what a few of my friends have seen when he was not injured playing defense he is a very hard hitter and could quite possibly be the most talented LB at UGA right now. Anyway I hope he plays lights out and the Dawgs defense is as tough as I believe it is going to be and they leave it on the field after each game.
Go Dawgs
AltamahaDawg
June 20th, 2011
10:21 am
It was play Samuel at RB, or open the 2009 season with an empty backfield wasn’t it?
Big Dawg
June 20th, 2011
10:31 am
UturnU,
We lost to Florida in 2002 when we went ultra conservative and it cost us a chance to play in the Fiesta Bowl against Miami and a possible National Championship as we were ranked ahead of Ohio State until we lost that game. But I agree with you when we have successfully run the football we have been a very competitive team and IMHO a lot of our losses can be attributed to this tendency of first Coack Richt and now Bobo to get pass happy.
Go Dawgs
SilverBritchin
June 20th, 2011
10:33 am
ESPN has both UGA lines ranked #7 in SEC, both off/def lines. Not good.
SilverBritchin
June 20th, 2011
10:34 am
In both of Richt’s wins over Florida, he got a 100 yard rusher, that’s true.
SilverBritchin
June 20th, 2011
10:36 am
Teams are making Dawgs 1 dimensional, taking away the run, daring young Murray to beat them.
Whiskey Breath
June 20th, 2011
10:37 am
Red Dog, could you be a bigger homer? Ga has has a steady decline for the last 4 years and your dawgs are going to be just fine? That is because the typical fan has lower expectations.Ga plays into every SEC team’s hand. The only problem I have with Ga now is their coach tries to change the rules.
You guys are not smart enough to know Mark is trying to deflect questions on his declining record. He really knows how to use the media.
AltamahaDawg
June 20th, 2011
10:48 am
07′ was a decline over 06? How so?
What rules is he “trying to change”? Thats the “only ” problem you have with Georgia? Wow. The only problem you have is a made up nothingness? You are a much bigger homer that red then. And how many typical UGA fans have you interview to know what we expect? I believe there’s about a million of them. Your sample size would be?
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
10:54 am
It doesn’t matter what the dawgs run. The penal colony doesn’t have the determination and dedication to field a championship team.
tide roll
June 20th, 2011
11:04 am
The things ya’ll are complaining about regarding Richard Samuel should have been corrected through coaching. Who was it at the time, Tony Ball ? No big deal, let’s just move him to Wide Receiver coach, and promote McClendon,who was a wide receiver and not a running back ,and who is only slightly older than Samuel, and let him coach Richard! Only at UGA. It is Richard Samuel who has suffered from under qualified, inexperienced coaches. In High School, the kid averaged over 8 yards a carry, rushed for nearly 3,000 yards, and scored 43 TD(s). in two years! It’s so typical of Uga coaches to blame the kid, when the truth is the coaches either lack the qualifications, or are too lazy to work through the issues. Just tell all the fans, in spite of facts that show otherwise, that the kid’s not a running back. Samuel needs to get out of that nut house. There is no way, with the time that has passed since he played linebacker (4yrs), that he’s in a position to be a factor this year, and probably not next. Did his high shool team even run a 3-4 ? Apparently Richt’s excuse now is that your problems on defense were the player’s inability to pick up the system. If that’s true, where does that leave Samuel. What a waste of premium talent! Spurrier is so right- SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ‘EM.
AltamahaDawg
June 20th, 2011
11:13 am
What needs to happen is for you to say that exact same thing for the the 12th time.
WDE
June 20th, 2011
11:21 am
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it….from ending up 4th in the SEC west.
WDE
June 20th, 2011
11:23 am
@tide roll hey did that offer to coach a SEC team show up over the weekend?
HiLo
June 20th, 2011
11:24 am
D-Line was 7th in SEC against the run, O-Line was 10th in SEC in rushing. Both are scheme flawed, talent’s not the issue.
RxDawg
June 20th, 2011
11:52 am
Another thing about the TV delay vs. Radio broadcast is that the Radio is exactly live and therefore the people actually at the game can listen to the radio and watch the on field performance. Of course this affects very little but still… I gave up on listening to the radio while watching the TV long ago.
However, I do usually have a radio going outside near the grill. So it’s funny to hear people yell on the deck while they’re just lining up on the TV.
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
11:56 am
Well, let me reverse on that dedication (at least with the fans). I don’t know how you Dawg fans do it. You have all the intangibles in place to be a perenial powerhouse, talent rich state, no other big school to compete with, big time facilities, big time fan base, big budgets. Seriously, only LSU and a few other select schools can match this list and LSU has two titles in the last 10 years. You are underachievers of the college football universe who’s signature win in the last 30 years come against Hawaii. I don’t know what runs rampant in your organization preventing UGA being what it could be, but it’s been that way before Richt got there. Take away Herschell Walker and you’re Miss St.
So maybe the penal colony does have the dedication on the fan side, but something else is holding you back. And don’t take it too personal, it seems to be sports in the entire state of Georgia that are lacking.
Clipper
June 20th, 2011
11:59 am
Until Georgia gets a running game, they’ll continue to bottom feed the league.
UGA Insider
June 20th, 2011
12:00 pm
Maybe Mathew McConaughey will call Mike Bobo and remind him he may want to run “The Veer”. That’s the correct offense for Olines with no depth.
DawginLex
June 20th, 2011
12:00 pm
tide is drooling and your bib can’t stop it
Any contact made by the NCAA yet to alabama about revising Saban’s record since he has vacated wins?
They made Calipari do it, saban should be next.
WDE
June 20th, 2011
12:12 pm
@Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it …how do you Bama fans do it..all that talent, all that fan passion the coaching staff, the genius that is Saban, and you can’t hold a 24 point half time lead vs your arch rival and end up 4th in the West…yes yes that is performing at the highest level of Bama tradition isn’t it? Question what is more important to Bama Nation..beating Auburn or winning the SEC West..Answer… you can’t do either.
AltamahaDawg
June 20th, 2011
12:20 pm
I guess Alabama has been in steady decline for 2 years now.
thom smith
June 20th, 2011
12:26 pm
#1 recruits should come in better shape.
Big Johnson Dawg
June 20th, 2011
12:29 pm
Yeah, back when very few games were on TV, the only way to catch a game was be there, or listen to it on the radio. Of course, we had Larry Munson, so in some ways, it was even more exciting.
LawDawg
June 20th, 2011
12:37 pm
I agree that Alabama last year was the most underachieving bunch in the country. They were very similar to UGA in 2009: ranked #1 preseason and end with the same record. Alabama is on the DECLINE!
AltamahaDawg
June 20th, 2011
1:46 pm
Alabama had 5 first round draft picks on that team, AND perfectly healthy, and still couldn’t win its own division. Yup, should have fired some staff members for that.
MarineDog
June 20th, 2011
1:46 pm
I maybe way off base here……but I get the strangest feeling that TideRoll personally knows Mark Richt or member(s) of the UGA coaching staff and he has a bone to pick with them.
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
1:51 pm
Oh you Dawg fans forget how easy is it to “chase” a 10-3 season when you have a championship since Jimmy Carter has been president.
schmeckdawg
June 20th, 2011
1:56 pm
Don’t y’all sleep on “Boo” Malcome this year. He is a big back like Lattimore that we can use as a pounder AND has decent speed! Add in King, Crowell, Thomas and we just might have something. But nobody is going anywhere if the OL doesn’t get it done! That is my biggest concern going into the season!
WDE
June 20th, 2011
2:03 pm
@Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it …you want some cheese with that whine..sparky?
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
2:20 pm
Just wondering, for the Dawg fans that were actually alive during their last championship, did you have to get up and walk to TV to turn the channel after the game?
7576DAWG
June 20th, 2011
2:24 pm
CMR is a great coach who , over the years , have become very soft and compassionate for the KIDS that make up his teams. I think he has tried and failed to find that balance of letting the players remain college kids as long as possible with what it takes to compete against the great coaches, like Saban, Spurrier and Miles, that don’t have any compassion and are only concerned with winning. The only reason Spurrier is not in the top ten every year is because the state of South Carolina doesn’t produce the depth of talent needed. Put Spurrier in a state like Georgia or Florida and he would excel. Some great coaches have been fired in recent years because they are too mean to their players and treat them like it’s a job and not a college sport being played by 18 to 23 year old kids.
I have never seen a GEORGIA line as weak and noncompetitive as our offensive line was last year. We recruit top high school line talent every year because there are so many great players in our state and surrounding states from the high schools. Georgia had plenty of great line players too get the job done but CMR allowed them to get real soft and as long as we have to compete against coaches like Spurrier, Miles and Saban we have got to decide which way we are going to go, up or down.
I see a lot of very positive things like our new Defensive coordinator who had to be pressured by Richt to dial it down a few notches because this is college not the Pro’s but Grantham is the real deal and we hired a AD that is used to being on top and we have the right people in charge of S&C now. The question is can MARK RICHT live with the changes and do his part?
DawginLex
June 20th, 2011
2:45 pm
tide is drooling and your bib can’t stop it
Still won’t comment about the vacated wins huh?
29 since 1993 including 7 by Saban in 2007.
NCAA needs to do the right thing and contact Saban, Steve fisher and others if they are going to make Calipari change his win total.
VACATED WINS-ANOTHER CRIMSON TIDE POINT OF PRIDE
Can’t wait to watch LSU and Arkansas battle for the top spot in the SEC West while Bama fight to stay out of 5th place with Auburn and MSU.
A 2nd year in a row of preseason annointed national champions and end up looking up at others in the West, much less the entire SEC.
Robo
June 20th, 2011
2:57 pm
Richt Rod explains the basic play with 3-4 options. Murray could run this play.
1- Handoff
2- QB run
3- Pitch
4- Bubble Screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e4zyYXJUnE&feature=related
AltamahaDawg
June 20th, 2011
2:57 pm
“I have never seen a line as weak and noncompetitive as ours last year”.
But this morning you couldn’t understand why Bobo just didn’t hold the ball for 8 minutes at a time..
WDE
June 20th, 2011
2:59 pm
@Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it..I am old enough to remember the time honoring saying “If the Tide ain’t cheating the Tide ain’t winning” and I’m not that old.
Robo
June 20th, 2011
3:01 pm
When Urban Meyer had Percy arvin and TE Hernandez, and Tebow, he ran some wild options.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA5yTbtDwRU&feature=related
Junior Samples
June 20th, 2011
3:04 pm
I think my enthusiasm for the program is trending down.
I’ve been with it a long time and the hassles with parking and tailgaiting out weigh the fun.
Time to start unloading season tickets and let some new blood take over.
AltamahaDawg
June 20th, 2011
3:05 pm
I’ve got a set of windshield wiper on my truck that are old enough to remember when Alabama Football stunk.
DawginLex
June 20th, 2011
3:13 pm
altamaha, it wasn’t that long ago. The wipers could be from 2003,4,5,6 or 7.
I especially love the 2003 home game where we knocked 2 QB’s out of the game.
Hooper
June 20th, 2011
3:23 pm
Don’t see Richt running his QB Murray.
Richt’s too afriad of risk to win a National Championship.
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
3:27 pm
I especially love the 2008 game when UGA thought their pretty little black jerseys would constitute a game plan to utlize a first round QB and running back…
DawginLex
June 20th, 2011
3:30 pm
Still no comment about vacated wins?
Can’t wait for the NCAA to get off their butts and engage their brains and make Bama revise all their records.
WDE
June 20th, 2011
3:32 pm
@Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it I especially love the 2011 Iron Bowl when the mighty Tide lead by that defensive genius Saban could NOT hold a 24 point half time lead vs Auburn.Good times hey sparky?
WDE
June 20th, 2011
3:33 pm
Sorry I was so tickled by that memory I put in 2011 it was as we all know so well the 2010 Iron Bowl.
2011 is the year!
June 20th, 2011
3:37 pm
UGA wins the SEC east in 2011–bet the house. Florida will not have much and Ga will beat usc in athens. Dawgs v. Bama—for the SEC title!!!
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 20th, 2011
3:57 pm
UGA will have a better record than Bama this year.
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
3:57 pm
Every year is the year for DAWG FANS! WOOF WOOF!
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 20th, 2011
3:58 pm
If the Tide finishes 3rd in the West this year will some coaches be cut?
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
3:59 pm
“COPY/PASTE YEAR” is our year! Wuff Wuff. We’ve got no depth on the o-line and depending on a Freshmen RB. WUFF!
WDE
June 20th, 2011
4:00 pm
@Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it correct except for your bunches annual NC that is….anyone at Bama telling any college fan they are overzealous is a real joke. Rooooooolllllll Tide, cheat’em !!
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
4:01 pm
I once saw a painting of David Polluck trying to tackle Herschell Walker. Every DAWG fan should have this painting in their den next to their Coca Cola memoriabilia. It sums up all your good years in one neat 8×12 package.
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
4:02 pm
Alabama fans – something to back it up = Georgia fans.
I’ll meet you half way on that one.
AltamahaDawg
June 20th, 2011
4:03 pm
“pretty little black jerseys”? You had to realize you seemed like a tinkerbell as soon as you saw that in print.
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
4:04 pm
Not as tinkerbell as 31-0 at half
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 20th, 2011
4:04 pm
Let’s see Hearst was pretty decent as a freshman RB…so was Smith,Lumpkin,Ware,T.Brown,Ealey and that Walker kid.
WDE
June 20th, 2011
4:05 pm
@ Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it, tell us sparky do you your replica of the Bear’s hat in your display case..oh sorry no display cases in a trailer sorry…
DawginLex
June 20th, 2011
4:09 pm
tide is drooling and your bib can’t stop it
Question is, where do you soak your teeth?
My guess is the teeth soak in a bama cup from 1973 sitting inside a replica houndtooth hat sitting on the counter of your double wide overlooking your view of your .3 acres of beautiful goat track.
SOUTHGADAWG88
June 20th, 2011
4:11 pm
How can you have the “best” OL in the SEC…A Heisman winning back in Ingram and a superstud back up in Trent Richardson…and still NOT win the West?You know you had that “Great” Defense and that superior run game….what happened?Preseason no 1…finished 10-3 at the Capitol One Bowl….sounds familiar don’t it?
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
4:13 pm
You do bring up good points with all the Auburn cracks. Even freaking AUBURN has won a title since the DAWGS.
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
4:14 pm
Colorado
Dawg trapped in Bama
June 20th, 2011
4:25 pm
@ Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it……up 24-0 at home and lose….to your arch rival no less.
AltamahaDawg
June 20th, 2011
4:30 pm
RRight, except that was them. They own the 31 points. YOU are a little goober trolling some other man’s sports blog sounding like a tinkerbell. Troll on little man. On your pretty little computer.
Dawg trapped in Bama
June 20th, 2011
4:32 pm
guess that is all it took to stop the tide rolling huh? just remind them of their own beat downs (at home) and just like the Tech fans…..they vanish!
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
4:37 pm
Nope still here and just thinking about how the rest of the SEC laughs at the Dawgs and all their preseason expectations.
Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 20th, 2011
4:38 pm
17 out of 21
Dawg trapped in Bama
June 20th, 2011
4:43 pm
@ Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it….. if that is what makes you sleep better at night…..then far be it from me to take away the joy in your life. My question to you is this…if Alabama is so superior to UGA and you laugh at the thought of our preseason expectations….then why the h*ll are you wasting your time worrying about articles on all things preseason UGA?
DawginLex
June 20th, 2011
4:47 pm
Louisiana monroe
29 vacated wins
Ray Perkins
mike Price
Mike dubose
Mike Shula
blowing 24 point lead to arch rival at home
preseason #1 ranking-ended up in Cap One bowl
4th place SEC west after preseason self annointed national champs
Lather, rinse and repeat on that last one in 2011
Arkansas/LSU play for West title on last game of the season
Dawg trapped in Bama
June 20th, 2011
4:49 pm
@ DawginLex…only thing worse than a self denying AU fan is an egocentric BAMA fan. Of course you would have to explain what egocentric means to the BAMA fan.
Bob
June 20th, 2011
5:08 pm
Vote for the Bulldogs over Boise State in College Football’s Big Game Poll – http://collegefootballbiggamepoll.blogspot.com/2011/06/week-1-boise-state-broncos-vs-georgia.html
7576DAWG
June 20th, 2011
5:16 pm
AtamahaDawg
Realistic instead of eight minutes I probably should have said 5 to 6 minutes but the meaning is the same. Bobo is the most predictable offensive coordinator there is except maybe Georgia Tech’s offense. If I knew 60% of the plays before they are run the other coach could figure out 90%. One thing I would have done differently, after realizing how weak my offensive line was, was to have both fullbacks in the game along with the tailback and on those plays where the tailback did not get the ball I would have the tailback block and one of the fullbacks go five yards down the field after blocking so Murray could dump the ball to someone in case all his receiver were covered. If you let the tailback be the dump off man most of the time he will not block effectively because he will be to interested in you throwing to him . If you have three people in the game that you can dump the ball off to the other team will have a lot more problems as to which to cover. Way too many times last year all the receivers would all go long. the nearest receiver would be 15 yards away and if Murray got into trouble he would get sacked or only get a few yards. With my limited knowledge I think that would have gotten us a lot more short 5 yard gains that would have made our third down only 1 to 3 yards to go instead of third and 8 or 10 yards to go like we had too many times last year.
With LeMay on the team I hope CMR will use the Quarterback draw a lot more this year , Tebo made a career doing this, not worrying about who will run the team if Murray got hurt. Bobo has a million times more knowledge than I do as to not be so predictable and to use what your strengths are more and to adjust away from your weaknesses. He just needs to show it. He will be amazed how effective that philosophy will be.
JoeMac
June 20th, 2011
5:49 pm
All I know is that foxsports.com has come out with its way too early bowl pics, and they predict that the SEC Championship game will be LSU-Alabama on Nov. 5. They also have UGA slotted in the Music City Bowl, as the SEC’s # 8 team. Sounds about right to me. Maybe CMR is looking at the future by taking this mission trip.
Joggin'
June 20th, 2011
7:09 pm
One thing with Richt is he just can’t run the ball effectively. Almost last in the whole SEC in rushing with the most talented recruits in the nation, it’s sad how bad the guys under Richt’s leadership underachieve.
Class of 93
June 20th, 2011
9:24 pm
Scott Howard sincs great with the TV now. He is usually 2-3 seconds late on the call which sincs with most TV broudcast.
Dawg1922
June 20th, 2011
9:45 pm
I prefer to sync up my Android, IPad, big screen tv, and hi fi radio, games more fun that way.
RamboDog
June 20th, 2011
10:02 pm
JoeMac…… you are “confused”, LSU and Alabama are in the SEC West and can’t possibly be in the SEC Championship against each other. You must be kind of new to SEC football if you don’t know that.
Pago Pago DAWG
June 20th, 2011
10:09 pm
Is it just us, or has ESPN replaced most of the males reading sports scores with females. Sad that men are being replaced.
atl xmen
June 20th, 2011
11:01 pm
the spread stinks and teams with less talent as a team run it. tebow was the only reason that offense worked and for that long. stay with the pro style.
chazzo
June 21st, 2011
7:10 am
I just hade to reiterate what Dawgin lex said:
Louisiana monroe
29 vacated wins
Ray Perkins
mike Price
Mike dubose
Mike Shula
blowing 24 point lead to arch rival at home
preseason #1 ranking-ended up in Cap One bowl
4th place SEC west after preseason self annointed national champs
Lather, rinse and repeat on that last one in 2011
Arkansas/LSU play for West title on last game of the season
chazzo
June 21st, 2011
7:16 am
Georgia has a lot of speedy guys, a bevy of two-way D-backs and small tailbacks. The question is how to take advantage of all the speed without taxing an O-line without a lot of depth? Also, Georgia has the proven ability to strike fast, but it tends to keep the D on the field a lot.
I don’t think UGA needs to run the spread or any other tricky crap. The guys just need to be in better shape than everyone else. Conditioning will tell the story this season. UGA needs to play fast and intense and hustle from start to finish. No letting up even if it means hanging 70 on an easy team. Think Spurrier at UF in the 90s (I know those are painful memories, but I am saying that is the kind of game we need to play). It may not be classy, but his players never stopped going full speed.
chazzo
June 21st, 2011
7:19 am
regarding Bobo’s predictability: Dooley was the most predictable coach in the universe. There are not a lot of surprises from anyone. Maybe you get one or two a game. The key is to be strong. The Dooley/Russell days were all about, ‘you know what we are doing, and we are doing it anyway.’
chazzo
June 21st, 2011
8:32 am
There is a pass out in the flat that often results in a pick 6. There is that silly QB turn around pass in the backfield that just takes too long to develop. And, quite frankly the wild dawg hasn’t been too wild against substantial opponents. Do away with all of the above.
MP
June 21st, 2011
8:55 am
Joe Cox or Aarron Murray are not Pro Style QB’s. You don’t a good offensive line. You don’t have experienced wr’s. You don’t have the personnel to run the Pro Style anymore than you had the right personell to run the 3-4 last year.
chazzo
June 21st, 2011
9:25 am
Most likely scenario: dawgs lose 3 UF, AU, and either MSU or SC.
Worse Scenario: dawgs lose 5 to UF, AU, MSU, SC, and either BSU or GT.
Best scenrio: of course would be for the dawgs to go undefeated. Best likely scenario: dawgs lose 2 (1 being Auburn) and win the east in more or less a three way tie with SC and UF.
Mark my words:
SC, AU and UF are the most underrated teams in the NCAA right now. BSU is going to be good. MSU will also be good. Georgia does not have an easy schedule.
One more prediction: The East upsets the West in Atlanta!
MP
June 21st, 2011
9:43 am
The pro style offense Richt runs is too risky, it relies on too many long passes, these are low percentage plays, apt for interceptions.
Richt finished 12th in the SEC in turnover margin against winning teams.
You also need a wr that can stretch the field, losing the go-to WR, can be catastrpohic for this system. Richt was 1-3 without AJ Green in first 4 games.
You need a power running game, like Dallas ran with Emmit, and Gibbs ran with Redskins. Georgia hasn’t had a power running game since Moreno left.
You need a good offensive line that can pass block, and run block. Richt hasn’t had one.
You need a TE who can catch mid range passes. Richt’s had this, but hasn’t used it enough.
The Pro Style isn’t good for playing from behind. Richt lost each game where the other team scvored first last saeson.
You also need a QB who can make good decisions. Richt hasn’t had this since David Greene.
MP
June 21st, 2011
9:45 am
the long passing attack, doesn’t play to Murray’s strength’s as Murray was the least accurate passer in the SEC on plays of 10+ yards, against winning teams.
MP
June 21st, 2011
10:05 am
Richt runs a West Coast version Pro Style, basically using the pass to set up the run. You use a lot of short passes, that rely on timing by the receivers (Marlon Brown has struggled here), and you rely on accuracy bt the QB because he’s throwing in traffic.
Murray was 11th in the SEC in accuracy, he doesn’t have the skills to run the West Coast Offense Richt’s in love with.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2010/leader/911/player/split09/category02/sort03.html
MP
June 21st, 2011
10:10 am
On 15+ passing plays, Murray only completed 35 passes, as opposed to Garcia’s 57, and Mallet’s 70.
In the Pro Style, you have to be able to stretch the field vertically.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2010/leader/911/player/situational02/category02/sort10.html
MP
June 21st, 2011
10:15 am
You really have to protect the ball well in the Pro Style offense, but it’s a higher risk offense to run prone to turnovers.
Richt finished last in the SEC, 12th, in turnover margin against winning teams.
Richt finished with a -4 to margin, where run oriented SEC teams like Auburn, Alabama had a +6/+7 to margin against winning teams.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2010/leader/911/team/offense/split09/category12/sort01.html
DawginLex
June 21st, 2011
10:36 am
MP,
More of your crappy stats about UGA “versus winning teams”.
The last time I checked, the schedule is laid out against 12 opponents and they are not classified as “winning teams” or “non-winning teams”.
If Murray and Co. had not played great at home versus UT, UT would have been a winning team.
This is one example as to how idiotic your stats are.
Defense is the key to the season. Richt and Bobo are running the same stuff they have run for the past 10 years. If the defense drops the PPG allowed from 22 down to 14 or 15, UGA will win the East and Murray will have beaten a lot of teams with winning records and then you can spout your worthless stats some more.
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 21st, 2011
10:39 am
MP,
Those were last years statistics for a rookie QB, with a poor OL and under achieving RB’s. If the OL jells and increases it’s learning curve, Murray can more than step up and do the job. He did not manage 300 yards plus by not being able to throw the ball and think fast enough to react. A QB can not do it all. If he has a reliable running game to back him up and the OL comes of age quickly, he will have an outstanding year and will be all SEC.
GO DAWGS
MP
June 21st, 2011
10:47 am
Stafford finished:
6th, 2nd, 6th in TO margin in SEC against winning teams
Joe Cox:
12th, last
Aaron Murray:
12th, last
http://www.cfbstats.com/2008/leader/911/team/offense/split09/category12/sort02.html
chazzo
June 21st, 2011
11:17 am
MP,
Stafford threw 13 picks his freshman year, and he didn’t even play the entire season.
Look at Murray’s stats versus #1 Auburn at the end of the season versus 2 of the best D lines in the SEC in Ark and SC (per ESPN) the 2nd and 3rd games of Murray’s college career.
chazzo
June 21st, 2011
11:23 am
Be fair, MP, and compare freshman seasons
PASSING GP Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
——————————————————————–
Matthew Stafford 13 108.99 135-256-13 52.7 1749 7 53 134.5
PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
———————————————————————–
Aaron Murray 13-13 154.48 209-342-8 61.1 3049 24 66 234.5
JM
June 21st, 2011
11:44 am
you can’t comapre Stafford’s TRUE FRESHMAN year with Murray’s RED SHIRT FRESHMAN YEAR.
You’d have to compare Murray’s 2nd year in the system (2010) to Stafford’s (2007)
Stafford blew Murray away in 2nd year in the system and went 11-2. Murray went 6-7.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2007/leader/911/player/split09/category02/sort03.html
I-DOG
June 21st, 2011
1:53 pm
Snoop Dog:
If Richt is so terrible and can’t do any of the things you listed in your post including asess talent and coach up talent… then how did he finish 2nd, 3rd, 8th, 8th, and 10th in the country ? (five fluke seasons?) There are usually 10-15 very talented football teams around the country each year, so he must have outcoached a lot of them during those five years. How did he beat Alabama, Florida, LSU, TN, South Carolina, Auburn, Florida State, Oklahoma State, Boise State?
I understand as well as anyone that the last two seasons things have been going well and that includes last year’s nightmare unacceptable season, but to say that he has no coaching skills isn’t consistant of the evidence of the results from his head coaching history. He may or may not have LOST the ability to get it done, but I think you are going just a bit too far in saying the guy basically doesn’t know football.
chazzo
June 21st, 2011
3:59 pm
JM or MP or whoever,
No. I don’t think that you compare someone’s second year of playing live and in college stadiums to someone’s first year of doing so. Redshirt or not, he was a freshman. But, for the sake of your legless argument:
PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
———————————————————————–
Matthew Stafford 13-13 128.92 194-348-10 55.7 2523 19 84 194.1
PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
———————————————————————–
Aaron Murray 13-13 154.48 209-342-8 61.1 3049 24 66 234.5
Murray is clearly better than Stafford, statistically speaking in his first year whether you factor in the redshirt or not. I would also argue that Murray is a better team guy with better intangibles. I would also argue that Stafford had a sounder supporting cast.
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 21st, 2011
5:16 pm
As much as I loved watching Stafford throw, I almost always cringed when he did because he was such a gun slinger and believed he could thread a needle every time he threw.
The interceptions that Murray threw were in large part due to him trying to make something happen, running for his life when the OL broke down or when a RB missed a blocking assignment. He still managed to throw for over 3000 yards which isn’t bad for a rookie or a seasoned veteran. More importantly over all, he became the on field leader that they will need this year. The kid took some pretty tough hits and almost always was back on his feet, ready to go again.
Lemay may be the better pure athlete, but will need to work hard to see meaningful time on the field this year and probably next. Murray is the all around leader that will drive this team. Mason is a fair QB, but Murray is the leader.
There is very little down side to a QB like Murray if he has some support out there.
chazzo
June 21st, 2011
5:41 pm
@IARS,
Amen.
chazzo
June 21st, 2011
6:07 pm
I was there for Butler’s kick, BTW. One of the best sports moments in my life, heck maybe one of the best memories period. It was 1:30, and it was HOT even for this FL boy. I was taken aback by all the frat boys wearing ties and blazers.