Amid SEC numbers game, Richt lets his heart rule

I don’t pretend to understand all the nuances involved in SEC Commissioner Mike Slive’s attempt to come up with league legislation dealing with “roster management.”

I’ll admit, though, that my gut instinct is that anything Nick Saban, Houston Nutt and Gene Chizik howl about is probably a good idea.

And despite that howling, predominantly from the SEC’s wild West, I also have a feeling that Slive is enough of a politician that he wouldn’t have put the issue up for discussion if he wasn’t pretty sure the conference’s presidents will give him at least an approximation of what he wants.

I think Tennessee’s Derek Dooley’s stance might be indicative of what will come out of the conference gathering in Destin: The number of new signees each academic year might not be reduced from 28 to 25, but some of the loopholes being used by Steve Spurrier and others likely will be closed. As Dooley said, it’s not fair to the kids to let them enroll in summer school, see how they do in workouts, and then cut them before the season starts. And no matter what time of year a kid signs, he should count.

I like the position Mark Richt has staked out in all of this: There’s nothing wrong ethically with a coach telling a player there might not be room for him and that he might be asked to delay enrolling until January — the practice known as grayshirting — as long as it’s done up front, before the player signs.

But, as Richt said, “if you sign five over, and you get to the moment of truth, and you have to tell two or three kids that thought they were coming in with everyone else, and then all of a sudden you spring the news, all of a sudden there’s no room, you’ve gotta come in in January, I don’t think that’s right.”

Where roster management gets really hairy is in how some coaches appear to get creative in dealing with players being disqualified because of injuries. Some coaches have the reputation of using such disqualifications to run off players who haven’t met their expectations.

And then there’s Richt, who carried running back Albert Hollis on his active roster for a couple of years even though he knew the kid would never play for the Dogs. As the coach explained to The Athens Banner-Herald, if “you can still keep him on scholarship and you can help him get his degree and keep him in your program and have him help you coach or do something in strength or whatever to keep him where he’s part of the family still, he doesn’t feel like an outcast out there.”

With Hollis, Richt said, he could have medically disqualified him early on but “this guy’s got nerve damage, he’s got drop foot, he’s got some rehab ahead of him. I had to sit there and make a decision, what’s in the best interest of this kid. In my opinion the best interest in this kid was to keep him active in the 85. Once you DQ him, you can’t unDQ him two years later. He’s got at least a two year rehab. We felt like his best chance with rehab where he could walk again as normal as possible. He needed to have that carrot out in front of him where he might be able to play again one day.”

I won’t hazard a guess on whether Saban would have carried a kid who was never going to be able to play on his roster like that.

But I’m awfully glad UGA has a coach who did.

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Saban

June 1st, 2011
8:44 pm

Let`s see. A 6-7 record and losing to Central Florida. Fulmer Cup Winners, and building a new wing at Clarke County Correctional for the Georgia Players.

Seems you folks have the worst of both worlds. Can`t win, with most of the team running off with what ever is not locked up.

Oh well think I will win another national championship.

Saban

June 1st, 2011
8:49 pm

Just think if you had not beat Tech you would not have lost to Central Florida.

FLA DAWG

June 1st, 2011
9:41 pm

Yeah,
Saban & Spurrier might have done things differently than Richt – and look at their programs today.
Saban is a recent BCS / NC winner. Spurrier has won the BCS and taken a shallow talent team from nothing to SEC East contenders.

Richt on the other hand has a group of very talented players who have not been able to execute consistently (or often) for years.

College ball is no longer “take care of the kids”. It’s “Win!” – and if a coach (especially an SEC coach) cannot handle that then he should leave. I think Richt will leave this seasonend.

Return to Glory

June 1st, 2011
9:47 pm

Another reason I am proud of CMR.
He is a winner in life, in helping others..things that matter.
And for all you dumb dumbs who want him fired check his records against past coaches.
I loved coach Dooley but remove the 1980-1983 four year run and he falls short of the winning percentage Richt holds.
GOOO DAAAWGS !!!
Stand for something or fall for anything.
I stand with CMR, he has been, still is and will be a winner as will the DAWGS !

FLA DAWG

June 1st, 2011
9:51 pm

Return,
Football is a war – and I want General Patton commanding my Army.
You can have Obama – Richt as your commander.

I win.

Return to Glory

June 1st, 2011
9:51 pm

Alabama football player quiz:

Fill in the blank: C – T.
1) What state is U of Alabama located in ?
2) How many yards for a 1st down ( hint 5t5)
3) How many Championships has Bama won ( yes you can take off your shoes and socks to use your toes to count)

Return to Glory

June 1st, 2011
10:00 pm

Football aint war boy, in war men die and come home in coffins, families are broken.
Football is a game, we all want to win we all get mad when we don’t but we all go home alive…
Obama did’nt get my vote and never will for the record.

FLA DAWG

June 1st, 2011
10:00 pm

Return to Glory,

You obviously do not like Bama – neither do I.
But I respect their tradition and their ability to win.
Any informed college football player or fan must.

FLA DAWG

June 1st, 2011
10:06 pm

Return,
“Football aint war….”
Therein lies your inability to comprehend.
Ever heard of Vince Lombardi?
How about Bear Bryant?
Knute Rockne?
They would have told you otherwise.

I-DOG

June 2nd, 2011
12:18 am

Bama Fan:

Although, in Hollis’ case… I think that he played one special teams play in like his 6th year at UGA because of all the medical redshirts etc… Am I wrong about that Dawg Fans? It was a while ago, but I seem to remember that he kept rehabbing every year and then finally he got on the field for a play. I think being part of the team (giving encouragement to others, helping coach during walk thru’s, being an inspiration to teamates about keeping your head up and hard work… helped both UGA and the individual player. Which school would I send my son to play for? The one that will “cut” you even after you commit to them and had options elsewhere, but you pledged your loyalty to that team(oversigning) or the one that will stand by you even if you get hurt, even if your career is over? Bama is getting plenty of top recruits, so it obviously doesn’t make a difference to most people, but it would to me.

I’ll take the coach who will keep him on the 85 man roster. I’m not excusing the staff this year for an abysmal performance. It comes down to wins in SEC football. Richt has finished 2nd, 3rd, 8th, 8th, and 10th if I’m not mistaken and has made it to two SEC championship games winning two of them and getting beat by what I consider one of the best teams I’ve ever seen play in Saban’s LSU team. I think Richt is right about 50% wins and losses against Saban head to head when you consider LSU and Bama.

We will have to see if Richt and Co. can turn things around. I hope he can.

RED DOG 77

June 2nd, 2011
12:57 am

@Bill King……..Bill ‘ol buddy I agree, I do tend to give you a pretty hard time. That said, I believe you deserve it!………..But Bill, this was what I’ve been talking about, a good story about college football, the kids who play it, and the best way to facilatate the game itself……….Bravo , Bill…………..Great story ‘ol boy………keep up the good work! I know you can do it, now just do it more often………Regards, RED

LakeDawg

June 2nd, 2011
1:29 am

I don’t think everyone here is giving Saban a fair hearing . Just stand in his shoes for a moment. How is he supposed to command a 4 million dollar salary and have statues of himself erected if he doesn’t cut a few players who can’t help him win another NC? We need to be fair to Saban too.

legionaire

June 2nd, 2011
7:22 am

Richt did Hollis no favor. He could have put him on medical scholarship. Hollis knew that his medicals and rehab would be there. To tease him that maybe he could play again was juvenile and irresponsible. Richt cheated another kid out of the opportunity to play. It was not fair to the other 84 players who sweat their ass off and know they are one guy short against orther teams. There often is a big difference in meaning well and doing the right thing.

just win, baby

June 2nd, 2011
7:22 am

getting tired of these kinds of stories. and my prediction is that the hotter his seat gets, the more of these kinds of stories are going to come out.

i wonder how many mushy stories there will be after another few weeks (and losses) because “we had a great gameplan but didn’t execute….”

DawginLex

June 2nd, 2011
8:07 am

don’t forget the best part of the Alabama football application

Put yo momma’s name here ________________

Put you daddy’s name here__________________
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__________________
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dawgdip

June 2nd, 2011
8:28 am

Read your blog before you submit it. If it sounds stupid, guess what, it is!!!!!!!!

Whiskey Breath

June 2nd, 2011
8:35 am

Bill, Hollis needed a medical redshirt. Fine if you want to make Richt some kind of moral saint, but even at the time it happpened it was obvious the kid needed give it up. By continuing, his injury may have become worst and affected him later in life. I hope I am wrong, but the kid probably made the condition worst. How moral is the decision then? Sometimes it takes a man to tell them to shut it down.

Jafar

June 2nd, 2011
9:13 am

Richt dispises competition. Richt wants to limit competition among players to 25. The other coaches want as much competition as possible. Richt wants to limit opportunities to 25, other coaches want to give as many kids an opportunity as possible. Richt wants to entitle kids to a 4 year scholarship regardless of effort. Other coaches want to look at scholarships as 1 year agreements.

DawginLex

June 2nd, 2011
9:34 am

Jafar, you are full of it. All Richt is guilty of is wanting to be honest to kids and not promise them something and then pull the rug out from under them. He doesn’t “despise” competition. He “despises” coaches lying to recruits.

get the picture

June 2nd, 2011
10:12 am

Fla. Dawg, having served in combat football isn’t a war, its a game, Richts overall record is very good.
Every program has its ups and down. Look at what hes accomplished, he hasn’t won an MNC yet.

The Joker

June 2nd, 2011
10:27 am

I would send in a UGA joke, but they won’t let me post a picture of their football team here.

Buckeye

June 2nd, 2011
10:32 am

Still here! The sun came up again today.

Rapture

June 2nd, 2011
10:34 am

Buckeye,

How does your offensive line situation look this year? Who are the starting 5? Will injuries hurt you? Who are the best passblockers?

DawginLex

June 2nd, 2011
10:49 am

Anymore Mark Richt to OSU rumors???

ugaclassof2004

June 2nd, 2011
11:06 am

Charlotte Dawg

Not sure I agree with you about needing a slimbucket to win, but man do I like you comments. I was in school during the Green/Pollack days when we were winning championships and it was so much fun. I feel sorry for the students today who have to watch 6-7 football. Richt could deliver championships before, why not now? I don’t care if my coach is a Right Wing Christian or a crazed lunatic like Saban. I think you have to coach based on your personality. But one thing I do demand from a head coach is for him to be hungry. Richt was hungry at one point, but I’m not so sure that is the case anymore. But hopefully he’s hungry enough to coach for his job, because that is what is at stake this year. If he goes 8-4 or better, he gets another year. If he goes below 8-4, he’s got to go.

EDay

June 2nd, 2011
12:13 pm

Richt didn’t seem to Washaun & Logan & Zach like he had a heart. Guess it depends on the player.

reality

June 2nd, 2011
12:14 pm

I love all of the UGA fans making fun of Bama academics….like UGA is a great institution of higher learning BAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

DawginLex

June 2nd, 2011
1:35 pm

reality is all the Georgia kids that can’t get into UGA, get accepted into Auburn and Alabama

Big Dawg

June 2nd, 2011
1:42 pm

As a lifelong Christian and Dawg, I have always pulled for them, yes Coach Richt has done some good things at Georgia but he has also done and made some dumb mistakes like promoting Willie Martinez to Defensive Coordinator and Mike Bobo to Offensive Coordinator. He stayed with Martinez one year too long and also with Bobo at least one year too long and it may cost him his job. Now having said that I hope he does turn the program around this year and we win the SEC East, SEC and MNC. Do I think it will happen, no because of various reasons one of which is being predictable on offense, lack of depth on the o-line, no proven running backs and questions on defensive side of the ball will we be able to consistently stop people. But it will be interesting and I will be pulling for them.

Go Dawgs

Dawg4ever

June 2nd, 2011
1:49 pm

Richt’s opinion on oversigning is just like his program. It’s insignificant, and nobody cares. Actually, a coach with a losing SEC record shouldn’t even be allowed to vote on issues like this. This guy has destroyed a very proud program, he has divided the fan base, and he is a joke now as it relates to putting a product on the field that UGA fans can be proud of. UGA fans can sugarcoat it all they want, but the bottomline is this guy has not been successful the past 3 years, and he needs to go.

UGAG is gitting the ncaa death penalty, he he ha ha

June 2nd, 2011
1:50 pm

AJC Urinal headline: “UGA grad assistant, 2 others indicted in credit card scam”
This typical uga crook, er student needs to be interrogated under drugs and torture to make him name names. The thief stole at least 147 thousand dollars from innocent people’s credit cards. I say torture and execute him and all other like him!

UGA hypocrisy

June 2nd, 2011
2:11 pm

How is it all of you holier than though humper fans can forget about Jan Kemp and Hershel for pay days?

ga gator

June 2nd, 2011
2:13 pm

What ever anyone says about Richt needs to include the word integrity.

DawginLex

June 2nd, 2011
2:26 pm

Hey mr hypocrisy,

You criticize Dawgs for talking about Herschel and 1980 but the only negative thing you can say about UGA academics is Jan Kemp?

Who is your team Einstein?

This should be rich.

I’ll hang up and listen.

Real Dawgs drink Power-Aid !

June 2nd, 2011
2:27 pm

It appears to be a lot of gaiterade drinking creampuffs and kool-aid drinkers posing as Georgia fans. These fans love the current staff in place coaching at UGa and they don’t care at all about the annual downward slide of the football program. They are totally illogical or delusional and in love with Coach, and it don’t matter about losing 8 out 10 to UF or going to crummy bowls and losing now to UCF. It don’t matter that we have questionable coaching on both sides of the ball . It don’t matter the once proud and vaunted running game at Georgia is a joke and forgotten icon of the past. It don’t matter if UGa goes 6-7 again. What matters is the coach is morally correct and knows what the hell he’s doing while losing another big game in blow out fashion. So you losers keep the lovefest going and then you koolade drinking goons will still have mad love for him when he’s gone at seasons’ end. You lunatics can sandbag all you want but none of all the mad love will save your flawed hero if a another 6-7 season drops with another loss to UF in 2011. You reprobates may admire flawed leadership and may consistently sing praises to less than desirable outcomes, but this will be the last year for that crap. Just keep looking the other way while UGA pulls the plug on the mediocrity and the lies.

DawginLex

June 2nd, 2011
2:28 pm

So when did the slide start?

From where did it slide from?

Who created the raised expectations?

How many years had passed until 2002 since UGA had won the SEC?

How many years did it take Dooley to win a national title?

How many years did we SCREAM to have him run out of town before 1980?

No one is happy with 6-7 and short of 9 or 10 wins this year, we will probably have a new coach. I don’t get how folks like poweraid drinker go all crazy and pretend like our program had this run of national titles for 50 years. The reality is Richt raised the bar and did it honestly. I’ll support him as long as he is coach. You can sit at home in your fat boy chair drinking beer and pull for us to lose.

Enjoy that misery loser.

ugaclassof2004

June 2nd, 2011
2:54 pm

@DawginLex

“So when did the slide start?”
Thats tough to say. I’m going to say around 2005/2006, right around the time Van Gorder left and Willie and Bobo were promoted. I think that is around the time Richt became more hands off. There were other factors as well…Richt’s wife having that scare with cancer( which was awful). The competition getting better( Meyer being hired in 2005, Saban a little later in 2007). Also,I think losing all of those players that were a part of that winning streak from 2002-2005, hurt UGA from a leadership standpoint. The guys that graduated in 2008 and 2009( Thomas Brown, Muhammed, Southerland etc.) were the last group of guys that experienced being a part of a championship team. They knew what it took to get there. These kids that are coming in now have now clue what it takes to win at that level.Underachivement is what they know, which further compounds the problem.

“How many years did we SCREAM to have him(Dooley) run out of town before 1980?”
The difference between Dooley and Richt, is that Dooley was able to pull a good season out of his butt when he really needed to. His teams were lousy in 1969 and 1970, but he went 11-1 in 1971. His teams were mediocre from 1972-1974, but he rebounded in 1975 and 1976. He had down years in 1977 and 1979, but later rebounded to put together one of the greatest streaks in UGA football. Richt needed to surprise people in 2009 after a sub-par season in 2008 , and the team got worse. Richt needed to rebound in 2010, and the team got worse again. Four years of sub-par football can’t happen at a place like UGA. Dooley wouldn’t have survived that, and neither will Richt.

DawginLex

June 2nd, 2011
3:02 pm

Hypocrisy,

Duke huh? Yeah, you and I have chatted before but you had a different handle. Par for the course.

So Dooley was a good coach. How about from 1989 to 2000? How was our program then?

So you want Richt fired now before the season starts? How many SEC titles did Goff win? Donnan?

Richt deserves one more year to fix things or he will be gone. I still be a Dawg regardless who the coach is.

UGA hypocrisy

June 2nd, 2011
3:03 pm

Duke by the way duginlex.

The difference between Richt and Dooley? That is pretty easy dugin; Dooley would have never kicked a field goal on his first drive with inches to go inside the opponents 5 yard line in a meaningless bowl. Any more questions Einstein?

UGA hypocrisy

June 2nd, 2011
3:12 pm

Who said I want him fired? If I were a UGA fan I would, but if I was a fan of another SEC team I would be happy that he is the Dawg coach. How many SEC East coaches can claim losses to Vanderbilt and Kentucky at home on their resume?

Real Dawgs drink Power-Aid !

June 2nd, 2011
3:13 pm

Right On !!! Dawgs4ever. You are 100% correct and I’m with you all the way brother ! Clearly the fan base is totally divided between Real Dawgs that are tired of the excuses and lies. The Real Dawgs are ready to win meaningful games again for the Glory of Ole Georgia immediately. Then you have the delusional, illogical, reprobates who think they care about the program through their mindless support of flawed leader, who has clearly lost what it takes to achieve & maintain the success on or off the field in order to remain in charge. These people choose to ignore all the warning signs and drink all the kool-aid they can get their grimy hands on to poison the minds of others by delusional dreaming of a National Title for their morality hero every year. And every year it never happens and they are more endeared and beholdened to their flawed leader than ever. A silent civil war of anger, frustration, and confusion rages at UGA and our rivals, with the exception of the ramblin’ wreck, are basking in the glow of the divide and loving every minute of damage UGA fans create when we continuosly attack each other about what’s happening or not happening at Georgia. It has dramatically weakened the program and reduced a once proud program to a mere shadow of its former glory. Now the Hot Seat has been pulled out and its win or else at this point. Something’s gonna give !!!!

ga gator

June 2nd, 2011
3:14 pm

Be careful doubters, you might be sorry about who replaces CMR.

Richt 3:16 says...

June 2nd, 2011
3:17 pm

Store your National Titles in Heaven where neither moth nor rust destroys. Amen!

Real Dawgs drink Power-Aid !

June 2nd, 2011
3:40 pm

Do you see what I mean Dawgs4ever the kool-aid guzzlers don’t even realize a downward slide is even occurring at Georgia. I would say the “SLIDE” immediately began after kickoff of 2008 Blackout game versus Alabama, when they beat us down for the first half of that game to the tune of 31-0. The Tide has been on the rise ever since that night and the Dawgs went downhill ever since. Stop guzzling kool-aid dude and accept the facts. It’s all in print. Now I got a question for the reprobates. How many BIG games has UGA won since that night?. Give us your definition of a big game won by UGA since we were overrated at no.1 in 2008 from the perspective of a delusional fan. Hint: Outside of wins over Ga Tech ! Good Luck, I couldn’t find any. But I found a few games Georgia had no business losing !

Real Dawgs drink Power-Aid !

June 2nd, 2011
3:55 pm

Ga Gator. I gotta admit you may have a point. It’s gonna be very scary who they bring in next at UGa. I was scared as H-LL when they hired the current guy. But he lucked out and backed into a couple of SECs, with the help of other SEC schools who did his job for him by beating UF. It really depends on the amount of damage the current regime does to the program before they get canned. But I can see UGa in a rush to grab another saint-like clone which won’t really leave us much better off. Like I said it’s gonna be scary as h_ll. They may promote Bobo. That’s very scary as h_ll !!! Can’t put it past ‘em. I’m done if that happens.

Real Dawgs drink Power-Aid !

June 2nd, 2011
4:12 pm

Bravo, UGAclassof2004, Well said my friend. After you took him to school, I think that kool-aid drinker got choked on some of all that sugar at the bottom of his cup and had to take a walk to catch his breath again.
Kudos to you !!! and ……..GO DAWGS !!!!

Real Dawgs drink Power-Aid !

June 2nd, 2011
4:20 pm

And another KUDO shout out goes to UGA Hypocrisy. Good job of knocking that large cup of kool-aid out that guzzlers’ hands. LOL. He’s mad as h_ll now !!

Real Dawgs drink Power-Aid !

June 2nd, 2011
4:23 pm

OOps I must have forgot. Here’s to you UGA Hypocrisy………….GO DAWGS !!!

Spokesman for the SEC East

June 2nd, 2011
4:31 pm

I hope UGA gives Richt a lifetime contract!!!!

ga gator

June 2nd, 2011
4:35 pm

Be patient Dawgs. Longevity is a big thing and one bad year does not make a bad coach.