Is Richt on a slippery slope when it comes to secondary violations?

who cares

March 15th, 2011
10:47 am

This is some of the crap that went on with the Vols. Watch out.

Chewdawg

March 15th, 2011
10:48 am

First? Is it possible?

AlabamaDawg

March 15th, 2011
10:48 am

No big deal – no ethics violation. Go Dawgs!

NomoBobo

March 15th, 2011
10:53 am

Dude Mark, so they’ve taken away your phone privileges? Man that’s just wrong

Chewdawg

March 15th, 2011
10:55 am

Dang.

Anyways, the difference is Richt encouraged his players to get the penalty against UF. He willed their abandonment of the rules. With Crowell, Richt believed he was within the boundaries set by the NCAA. If he came forward and said he knew it was probably a secondary violation but worth the risk, I’d have a problem with it. The fact that he openly shared the scenario with the media WEEKS ago tells me he thought he was in the clear. Otherwise it would have been hushed up. The only news here is that the NCAA thinks it’s a violation. And there’s only one opinion that matters when it comes to compliance…the NCAA.

Biggdawg33

March 15th, 2011
10:55 am

Here we go with more of the stupidity of the NCAA. It is getting pathetic what the NCAA decides to go after and not go after. Before they jump on Coach Richt, go and do something about Jim Tressel. If they do something about him, then (and that is a big mabye) I will think that the NCAA is more than a worthless piece of slop.

Paul H

March 15th, 2011
10:55 am

Who cares. He did what he had to do. With the NCAA there is no telling what is and what isn’t allowed. And after the way the NCAA has dealt with things over the past 12 months, they can all shove it. I hope Richt does it again.

Jeff

March 15th, 2011
10:55 am

I got this one…. No, it’s no big deal.

Jborodawg

March 15th, 2011
10:56 am

We draw the line at major violations (from the staff). On the other hand, we also don’t want to start piling up a bunch of “secondaries”. The Drew and Crowell episodes are about enough for this season; any more and we might start to wonder.

Don’t compare these “secondaries” to Lane Kiffin; not even in the same breath.

March Madness

March 15th, 2011
10:57 am

I thought CMR’s idea was rather creative. Suck it NCAA.

SCdawg

March 15th, 2011
10:57 am

This is getting old. What can you do to entice a player to come to your school? Regardless, it appears to be nothing major and obviously handled quickly. Always a good idea to admit your wrongs as opposed to trying to sweep it under the rug ala Ohio State. It just always makes me nervous; however, to give the NCAA a reason to look around. Looking forward to a good year. Go dawgs!

devildawg

March 15th, 2011
10:58 am

Nick Saban did put an Alabama jersey on Crowell, and Clowney and Dee Hart. He put one on all the top recruits. So what? And I for one, got chill bumps when I read about how the rest of the team looked up at Richts office at Crowell and how he came down and filled the last spot in the formation. Thats straight up cool. Welcome to the SEC.

SE GA Dawg Fan

March 15th, 2011
11:01 am

This appears to be just another stupid AJC Sports blog that’s anti-UGA and Richt. I actually thought you liked UGA, but I’m proven wrong. This infraction is so minor, and especially compared to what is going on at Ohio State, TN, USC, Auburn, etc. The sad thing is UGA always gets the most punishment, but Ohio State gets a slap on the wrist, and Auburn gets nothing.

Vince

March 15th, 2011
11:01 am

Your an idiot bill! why dont you make a mountain out of a mole hill!

Matthews Dawg

March 15th, 2011
11:02 am

Bill, are you trying to stir the pot? I think so! CMR has integrity, character and honor. He made a mistake and no one is perfect. I know there will be some that will bash his faith, etc… He is a human and none of us are perfect! Give CMR a break!

SBC Pastor

March 15th, 2011
11:03 am

Is it acceptable for a Coach to willingly and knowingly violate the rules? Of course not.

However, when you have to have an Assistant Athletic Director for Compliance to make sure that all of the rules are followed, you have too many rules. (Is this Baumgartner’s only duty: making sure no one violates NCAA rules?)

ncb34

March 15th, 2011
11:05 am

i may be wrong, but kiffin used “attractive female students” to help “talk” kids into joining. i would say this is far more acceptable. rules are rules though, hopefully this is the last we’ll hear.

Tech

March 15th, 2011
11:06 am

Yeah!

McDawg

March 15th, 2011
11:08 am

i thought it would be a penalty the first time i heard about it-but at the time i was thinking what kind of message it sent to Ealey and King b/c we really need sthose guys on board regardless of how good Crowell might be

in the good old days the coaches did not have to take off their shirts and jump around -they had hoestesses do it and do it gladly-why does everyone want to take the fun of life

Lowcountry Bulldawg

March 15th, 2011
11:08 am

Richt has to be careful here. Yes these are secondary violations but these seem to be compounding over the past 12 months. Note the NCAA did not “Go after” us. We self reported the incident. Richt new this off season was the most important one during his tenure in Athens so he may have taken some chances that were not needed. Was it worth it? Well at some point is the integrity of the University worth landing a couple of recruits? Regardless of what you think about the NCAA and its rules, they are still inplace. Richt needs to be mindful and not find himself in the same place that Bowden did in ‘93 w/ Warrick and searching for that mythical NT. Many believe Bowden sold himself out do finally break through and Richt may be edging close to that same line.

who cares

March 15th, 2011
11:08 am

How come there isn’t a story about the four UGA players stopping to help a man from a major accident on their way to Key West? AJC loves to report only the drama.

Mtn Dawg

March 15th, 2011
11:09 am

Please. Once again, the NCAA is stead-fast in its ‘witch hunt’. Tressell got a slap on the hand for far worse offenses. Think CMR will be dealt with similarly? Probably not. It is NOT a level playing field regarding the NCAAs inconsistent application of the rules. Coaches aren’t dealt with consistently and players are not dealt with consistently, for similar infractions. They just can’t get it right. They’re a lame bunch. We’ll see how CMR comes out but I’m confident UGA will not suffer much from it.

JaxDawg05

March 15th, 2011
11:09 am

Since the NCAA doesn’t think the Cam Newton situation was too big a deal these secondary violations are nothing.

uga_b

March 15th, 2011
11:10 am

It does kind of beg the question what can you do? For instance, would be meeting Uga be simulating a game environment? What about getting coke and a hot dog from a stand? And what in the heck is it when they stand on the sidelines during games?!?!?! Guess we should just get a limo like Auburn.

Honestly, most of the NCAA rules are supposed to protect the high school kid’s ability to choose but wouldn’t it be more helpful to allow some gameday situations? It seems to me that that would be a huge factor: how I fit with the rest of the players.

YardDawg

March 15th, 2011
11:12 am

One of the reasons the big Richt supporters give when arguing for his continued employment is that “he doesn’t embarrass UGA or flirt with the rules like Kiffen or Saban.”

Well, with this and the Drew one, don’t look now but Richt is probably leading the SEC in secondary violations.

He tied Kiffin last year, by the way.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/7419/georgia-tennessee-tied-in-secondary-violations

Chewdawg

March 15th, 2011
11:13 am

It’s different from what went down with UT. The Vols willfully and knowingly encouraged representatives of the school to engage key recruits outside of the contact period for coaches. Because it wasn’t a coach making the contact, the violations were considered secondary. But the NCAA, in all their wisdom and, more importantly, might, felt UT was intentionally trying to circumvent the rules and gain a recruiting advantage. The fact that they encouraged the contact is the issue. Had UGA encouraged Pollack and Godfrey to attend Drew’s signing, it wouldn’t have been secondary.

I think the issue for UGA is that they gave Crowell a jersey to put on and put him in “formation” with the offense. A jersey is considered equipment by the NCAA, so technically game day equipment was used on a recruit. If they don’t give him the jersey, you don’t have a story here.

I worked in compliance for two years with a DII school and can tell you this. Your opinion, your AD’s opinion, the media’s opinion…all count for squat. If the NCAA thinks you made a violation of rules, you made a violation of rules. And they’ll keep digging until they find proof…even if it wasn’t what they started looking for. Case in point: AJ Green.

Richt has a strong history of compliance and has run a legit program (UF penalty withstanding). This should be nothing more than slap-on-the-wrist.

Matthews Dawg

March 15th, 2011
11:13 am

Lowcountry…CMR won’t sell his soul, IMO!

2012 FEAR THE END

March 15th, 2011
11:14 am

Saban did give him a jersey and their is a picture of it

Just saying

March 15th, 2011
11:15 am

Puh-lease! Cam and Auburn go scot-free while UGA gets nit picked to death.

Dawg 1

March 15th, 2011
11:16 am

No concern.

March 15th, 2011
11:17 am

we are all sinners in the hands of an angry NCAA

mgdawg

March 15th, 2011
11:17 am

I really don’t see it as a big deal, richt thought it was ok, and I don’t really mind it because it may have helped to land a five star runningback that was desperately needed. NCAA needs to pay more attention to ohio state and the major infractions going on up there and less attention about these questionable infractions.

Mtn Dawg

March 15th, 2011
11:18 am

Chewdawg – Good blog.

OldFan

March 15th, 2011
11:20 am

In the tough, cut-throat environment of major college football recruiting, it’s all a matter of knowing how far to go too far. Richt’s right at the edge, and his shadow may have fallen across. That said, we wouldn’t expect any different, so we’ll have to live with the consequences while keeping our morality in check. If Saban had signed Crowell by doing this, we’d be screaming at Richt for being such a wuss about the rules. Just hope he’s careful about the cumulative effect.

RHall

March 15th, 2011
11:21 am

Where is Eric Baumgartner on these matters? Should he not inform the Team that a violation could occur if Chris LeMay practices w/ the Team before an High School All Star Game, or if two former UGA Players speak @ the signing ceremony for Ray Drew, or if the Team lines up in formation for IC to see where his position on the Team would look like??? What is EB doing to be aware of these situations in the future?? BTW: CMR is going to the bathroom right now; is this a secondary violation?

ugaclassof2004

March 15th, 2011
11:23 am

As the saying goes ” There are no virgins in big time college recruiting”.

How much you wanna bet UGA gets punised worse than Ohio State for this.

SouthGaDawg

March 15th, 2011
11:24 am

Who cares? Why don’t you focus on UGA basketball making the tournament? How about a post about that?

Sam

March 15th, 2011
11:26 am

I doubt anyone commenting has even read the NCAA rulebook. I started to read it a few years back and quit. I think that my reading the manual might end up being a secondary violation somehow.

I recall many years ago the game simulation stuff was pretty creative. Some school (probably more than one) had their play-by-play guy record a TD call for a prospective student as the student and his parents stood in the stadium. Soon most schools were doing this which probably lessened its impact, then the NCAA comes along and bans it. Why? To some extent if everyone is doing it, then no advantage can be gained. (This is not to condone cheating like giving cash.)

I remember watching the Olympic Track and Field trials in 2008 from Eugene, OR. A HS runner who was considering Oregon competed in the 1500. She did quite well and set a HS record. As she stood next to the clock showing the record, the crowd started chanting something like “Come to Oregon”. I wondered then if that would be considered a NCAA violation.

I doubt that a school can go through a recruiting cycle without several secondary violations. It just seems impossible. What if a coach is at the mall buying shoes and a HS athlete comes up to say “hi”. Does the coach have to go back and report it?

TX DAWG

March 15th, 2011
11:27 am

There must not be much going on in the sports world if we are talking about this. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill…..

1eyedJack

March 15th, 2011
11:30 am

In the cut-throat world that is college football recruiting a coach has got to do what a coach has to do. Until they are all reigned in who can blame him, even if he knew it was a violation.

All In(volved)

March 15th, 2011
11:31 am

It’s not like we’re paying players $180,000.

1eyedJack

March 15th, 2011
11:33 am

RHall, only if he craps a five star RB.

Midtown Dawg

March 15th, 2011
11:34 am

I am glad that this was a violation even though it was minor because it sets a high standard for ethics. I wish we held politicians to the same level of expectations that we hold college coaches. Our elected officials are so much less smart, strategic and ethical than college coaches and as I have heard in relation to parenting and dealing with a child’s behavior “you get what you tolerate”.

j-nasty

March 15th, 2011
11:36 am

the difference between this and what the vols were doing is i don’t believe that mark richt was wearing skimpy cloths and hanging all over crowell

Bryan G.

March 15th, 2011
11:39 am

Under NCAA rules:

1. Empty man formation is a violation.
2. Father asking pay for play – a-okay.

Got it.

DawginLex

March 15th, 2011
11:40 am

Let’s compare:

1.)No home invasions involved
2.)No armed robberies
3.)No bar brawls
4.)No one ended up in ICU
5.)No felonies committed

Seems to me that Richt doesn’t care about defending the Fulmer Cup title.

That is now reserved for Auburn, the runaway winners of the 2011 Fulmer Cup.

Auburn all in, jail that is.

Secondary Violaters Deserve the Death Penalty!!!!

March 15th, 2011
11:43 am

Good article Bill.

I can honestly say if this happened to ANY school, even if Bama did this with Crowell and got him instead of us, I would shrug my shoulders and ask “why on earth is this a violation”

This is similar to the Arkansas players who wore an Arkansas jersey in the locker room last year, and had to report the exact same “gameday situation” crap.

A few months ago, during Tech’s recruitment of Vad Lee, I saw a picture of him wearing a Tech Jersey in the Jacket locker room (this was about 2 weeks before NSD, and the pic was the background of Vad’s twitter page). So before any Techies want to come out and say this is the most heinous violation possible, just think about how bad you will get it if you fail to report that one.

Pmaxspa

March 15th, 2011
11:43 am

Much ado about nothing. We got Crowell. CMR gets slapped on the wrist. Whether this got Crowell over the line or not we’ll never know. Move on.

woebegong

March 15th, 2011
11:46 am

Has anybody looked at the NCAA rule book for college football. IT is 273 pages big, and it is written probably on a sixth grade reading level. They practically tell you when it is permissable to take a leak. I would wager to say, tjhat every school in the NCAA has a violation or two, each year trying to recruit atheletes.
The NCAA is going especially hard on the SEC, due to recent allegations leveled against a particular school, involving a tidy sum of money. UGA is not alone in violating the NCAA bible in secondary violations. We are just so lucky to have the AJC, to make sure that every little one is elevated to death penalty status, so they can increase their readership, and make up for lack of real scandels (news) to report.
This same blog had an article about Ohio State’s problems just a week or so before this, and I thought this was called the “Junkyard Dawg”, and would therefore be a blog about UGA.
Surely, the AJC and it’s journalist can find more important things to write about than this. Can’t you just read the next big hot item news story to be carried by AJC concerning UGA. “UGA recruit, seen taking a whiz in Athletic facilities at UGA”. Letter of intent not signed, no institutional control by the athletic dept.”
I will be glad when the season starts so these Journalist have something real to report about.

GOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSS

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boots

March 15th, 2011
11:48 am

Seriously? First, the NCAA is a bunch of thugs with rules that the Pope could not follow. Second, what CMR did we not intentional, and we reported it, unlike other schools whose coaches cover things up from the NCAA. Thirdly, we had guys in a jersey get in a mock formation and asked the kid if he wanted to be a part of it. Big freaking deal. Stop trying to stir up trouble…

Throw the book at him

March 15th, 2011
11:52 am

This is outrageous!!! The NCAA should throw the book at him! I suggest a two game suspension, and a $250,000 fine.

Coachdawg 2000

March 15th, 2011
11:52 am

Nick Saban,Houston Nutt,and Spurrier run kids off with”medical disqualifications” and pulling schollys from less heralded recruits is waaaay more immoral than some staged recruiting ploy. As long as Jim Tressel has a job and Ohio State stays off probation then I have no concern for NCAA secondary violations.

MoDawg

March 15th, 2011
11:55 am

Move along….nothing to see here.

I actually happy to see a little “edge”, even if it is of the “butter knife” variety.

Coachdawg 2000

March 15th, 2011
11:56 am

alot of you fools ,bill king included, went to great lengths to say Mark Richt is too nice, too vanilla and yet now you questions his morals. B.K. please go do a blog for the lifetsyle section or quit being so provocative. Bill King you are truly an embarrassment!

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
11:56 am

I personally think CMR should be hanged, shot, drawn and quartered, put back together, drawn and quartered again, have his head chopped off and then put in a wood chipper. That sure would teach him! Oh and by the way Bill I saw a picture of Crowell and other recruits in Tuscaloosa with Alabama jersey’s. Wonder where or from whom they got them. HMMMMMMM! Bill, are you really a DAWG fan?

AltamahaDawg

March 15th, 2011
11:58 am

Well, at least Fran will appreciate it. We landed a player from Georgia, which we never do according to him, and certainly he can’t blame this on the those Christian values that he find so unacceptable.

Don

March 15th, 2011
12:02 pm

Really? Talk about a no ba11$ organization…Control what you can, I guess. So Cam Newton can be shopped by his Dad, and he’s eligible, it’s all good. The NCAA is a joke. They have been neutered since the BCS took control of college football. Does anyone disagree? And while I’m at it, Mike Slive (AKA Mike Slime) is as bad, if not worse. Maybe we should make Steve Spurrier commissioner. Pretty sure he would be plain and clear as a button hook in the well water.

Baddawg1

March 15th, 2011
12:02 pm

Loved this comment I saw on another blog “If the NCAA was a woman I wouldn’t touch her with a 10 foot pole”. I’m sure Richt is like every one in America where we now feel like every thought or decision we make has to be confirmed through some kind of compliance officer and it is getting annoying. Richt has to compete with all these other schools committing major violations and getting away with it so a few secondary violations are going to happen.

ryan

March 15th, 2011
12:06 pm

Its funny how slow the AJC was on the Auburn players arrest which is more serious than this with Crowell and Ray Drew i am really thinking of not coming on the AJC any more .

ryan

March 15th, 2011
12:11 pm

I don’t care about these infractions because Bama , Aurburn, Tenn , and Florida do the same thing .

Jim

March 15th, 2011
12:13 pm

Coach Richt would not knowingly break NCAA rules. The only reason I could see for this to be an issue is that McGarity could be starting a paper trail to justify replaceing Coach Richt after this coming season even if the Dawgs have a winning season.

RCB

March 15th, 2011
12:18 pm

You mean we are supposed to get concerned about talking to players and not get concerned about offering them $100,000s. Get serious. the SEC and NCAA better look in the mirror. I recommend Richt offer a couple of $100,000 to the parents next time.

woebegong

March 15th, 2011
12:18 pm

The rule concerning giving a recruit a jersey, is he may wear it in the locker room, if he received it, there but can not leave the locker room with it on. However, if the recruit is given that shirt outside the locker room, it is permissable for him to put the jersey on and wear it around. (How Saban got away with it).
Now doesn’t that seem like a clear cut rule for you. Good lord, can you imagine what would have happened if the 10 other people on the practice field had been female. The headlines would read, “UGA arranges for recruit to play with 10 ladies of the night”. More to follow on the AJC blog, once it is determined if the Ladies in question were from the State of Tenn. or Atlanta. The AJC has asked for a public disclosure under the freedom of information act.

GOOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSSS

Outsider

March 15th, 2011
12:20 pm

CMR knew what is there were doing was wrong. That is why he did not ask anyone else. He did not care. If he says differently then he is not being truthful. CMR is not as honest as advertised.

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
12:23 pm

@woebegong, If that really is the rule, no wonder what a cluster f*&k the NCAA is!

richtfan

March 15th, 2011
12:24 pm

these things are beyond stupid. the ncaa needs to be focused on Oregon, AUBURN, Tennessee, North Carolina, Ohio State etc.

woebegong

March 15th, 2011
12:24 pm

Yeah, I guess he just liked the red jersey color more than any others he had received. He made it public knowledge, two weeks before the SEC, notified him that it was not permissable. The AD at UGA handed out the penalty for this major grievance. The NCAA probably wants the death penalty.

GOOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSS

Sharon Massey

March 15th, 2011
12:26 pm

I have to agree that when you must employ a person whose title is Director of Compliance it generally means the rules are so convoluted and unfathomable as to be impossible to follow on a day to day basis. The David Pollack incident with Drew is a perfect example. Mr. Pollack is employed by ESPN and an Atlanta area sports oriented radio station yet his attendance at the Drew signing is a potentially punishable “offense” as a representative of the university??????? So does that mean that when Favre goes to a local Mississippi high school and works out with the team all these kids are no longer eligible because of “contact” with an NFL player????? How about a former pro athlete who coaches his kid’s Pop Warner or Little League team? How about if the NCAA makes and enforces clearly stated rules and annually sends out lists of all the people in the world with whom college athletes are not allowed to associate and we go from there.

gadawgs

March 15th, 2011
12:28 pm

I have no problem with it at all. That is MINOR compared to what many schools do and do NOT self report. If that’s what it took to get a player such as Crowell (even though his mother said it was a forgone conlusion) so be it. Great job coach for stepping outside the box a little. I applaud you.

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
12:28 pm

@woebegong, please read my post from 11:56 this morning. I mean this heinous, immoral, vile act that CMR committed deserves NOTHING short of the NCAA Death Penalty. I mean since this story broke, I can’t believe that Allied Van Lines has not already come in and cleared out his office. As a DAWG fan, I am totally disgusted.

Shrimp N Grits

March 15th, 2011
12:30 pm

Get off your butt and find a story, Bill. Is Schultz and Bradley going to do an article on this non-story too?

Good grief man. Did you major in journalism or stirring the pot?

heyberto

March 15th, 2011
12:30 pm

Whoa… comparing Richt’s one improper ’stunt’ to Kiffin’s elevation of secondary violations to art form is bad form here. I expected this column from Bradley or Shultz, but not from Bill King. This is one event. Nothing to see here, move along.

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
12:31 pm

Off with Richt’s head, and more mead for all of my men!!!!

woebegong

March 15th, 2011
12:32 pm

SCHMECKDAWG,

It appears it is. Otherwise they would have gotten Saban and Chizak for a minor violation. CMR was just too honest about it, and did it in the open, because he thought he was truely not violating the rule book as far as that being a formation with players in uniform. Dang, I hope they wear the rest of their equipment when they take the field next year.
The rule book does say that if the jersey is given in the locker room though, it can not be worn outside of the locker room. I haven’t read the whole book yet, because it is about as interesting as reading the history of a flies life cycle, but I am trying to get through it. Should be done in time for the new edition, or at least before the revised one comes out I hope. The next one will be twice as thick though, so at 62, I may not make it through that one, before I depart this earth.

GOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSS

Desperation on the Ave

March 15th, 2011
12:35 pm

We at Tech are ABSOLUTELY OBSESSED with Mark Richt (our Daddy), and everything else having to do with the UGA football program (our God whom we worship).

Check out our obsessive thread about these violations on our SUPER-COOL website, Sting Talk.

http://www.stingtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52873

Long-Live Mark Richt!!!!

Harry the Hat

March 15th, 2011
12:35 pm

Here we go again: Bill King needing something to write about, so he goes Dawg-negative again. What a stupid question again!. Is there not something else??? Your creativity is non-existent.

DawgLover

March 15th, 2011
12:36 pm

Bill King, sounds like you have nothing to write about and need to keep making stories out of nothing essentially. You need to either change your picture at the top of your article to another one that is not wearing UGA logos, or stop turning irrelevant articles just to rile people up. It is obvious that you have begun(? or did you ever write fully informed articles? – i.e. “OH MY GOD, AARON MURRAY IS A QUADRIPLEGIC FROM A SOCCER INJURY, OH WAIT I SPOKE TOO SOON HE IS FINE”). It is one thing if you write this for a small group of people who want to follow you, but this article right now is on the front page of the AJC when you go to the website, not the sports section, but the FRONT PAGE……really? There MUST be something better going on in the state of georgia as opposed to this crap….

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
12:37 pm

I call on all DAWG fans to join me with lit torches as we descend upon the office of the evil emperor Marcus Von Richtus and dispatch of him with a swift and brutal violence because of the shame and embarrassment that he has heaped upon the fair village that is known as The Classic City!

Robin Hood watcher

March 15th, 2011
12:38 pm

mead = honey liquor.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 15th, 2011
12:38 pm

Those who claims Richt is on a slippery slop are the same folks who would feast on UGA losses and would like for UGA to remain mediocre or even worse. Do we really think UGA was clean during those championship years of the 1980’s? NCAA just did not have enough vague rules on the books during those times. Secondary violations are nothing compared to those suspected violations by some of our neighboring SEC schools.

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
12:42 pm

woebegong, Does the NCAA have any rules on whether or not you can wear a jock strap inside or outside with or without pants? I mean if IC was wearing a jersey, this is a rule that I feel needs to be vigorously investigated down to the smallest detail. This is horrible, I just received my season ticket application yesterday, and if this is the kind of man that is going to represent THE UGA, I just don’t think I can support him. OHHHHHHHH the horror!!!!!

D A DoubleU G

March 15th, 2011
12:42 pm

Bill King is an excellent UGA columnist.

He writes from a fan’s perspective, and this, unfortunately, is the only story going on he hasn’t written about yet out of UGA.

Bill is a heavy Football-fan lean, and writes about basketball just enough to meet a quota. I don’t blame him. I am FAR from excited about the Dawgs being in the Dance. Congrats to them, but I am not reaching into my wallet to buy a Hoop-Dawgs shirt or anything.

I thoroughly enjoy reading and feeling the enthusiasm Bill has for all-things Athens and the University. I can strongly relate to his feelings. If you don’t like reading things from his type of perspective, I would encourage you to not click his link. You chose to read it, it was not forced upon you.

Keep up the great work Bill! GO DAWGS!!!

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 15th, 2011
12:43 pm

With the kind of classy fans GT football program has you will think they would change their coaches for every secondary violations that are reported by their cupcake program.

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
12:43 pm

Very good call Robin Hood watcher! I would equate it in these times to Barenjaeger (spelling?)

No King

March 15th, 2011
12:43 pm

This King guy needs to go to The Flats or The Plains or The Swamp. He’s apparently more oomfortable than “Between the Hedges”. With ‘Dawgs like him, we’re worse off than better. I want read his joke-of-a-column anymore.

frannie mae

March 15th, 2011
12:44 pm

Dogs are in BIG BIG Trouble and UGA pays million to these clueless coaches.

Athens Tider

March 15th, 2011
12:44 pm

This is nothing. I don’t think the problem is giving him a jersey; everybody does that. I think the problem is lining him up in formation with the other players. Am I wrong? Regardless, the whole’s thing’s a joke.

CMR Titanic

March 15th, 2011
12:45 pm

Time to rearrange the chairs on the ship.

woebegong

March 15th, 2011
12:46 pm

Shrimp,

Tim Tucker already wrote another story about this terrible violation a day or so ago. This is big news for the AJC.

GOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSSS

cmdawg99

March 15th, 2011
12:47 pm

Why should Richt or any coach even talk to the media as to what exactly was said during any visit. Why cant MR just say yeah he’s a great kid he really liked our facilities .If he chooses us we will be blessed. Are all visits video recorded and taped? What the ajc scout and whatever type of media dosnt now wont hurt them. GoDawgs . GoRicht Hunkerdown.

Bony Tarnhardt

March 15th, 2011
12:48 pm

Richt really needs to get his act together. Spring break is fast approaching and the fulmer cup is being polished.

anotherdawg

March 15th, 2011
12:49 pm

Slippery slope? Compared to what went on at Auburn, Ohio State, USC, Tenn. and a ton of other schools, Richt is an anchor! Like comparing a parking violation to a DUI.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 15th, 2011
12:50 pm

@schmeckdawg, the torches are ready.

Festus

March 15th, 2011
12:51 pm

Aw shucks thait thare kid was only warein a jersey and folks need to git over it.

EW

March 15th, 2011
12:52 pm

Oh so it would be better to have a federal investigation looming about a pay for play scheme or to have a helicopter land at a High School field or to have a couple busty coeds to entice kids to come to UGA. GIVE ME A BREAK.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 15th, 2011
12:52 pm

Fulmer cup will not prevent a BCSMNC

reebok

March 15th, 2011
12:52 pm

the infractions are exceedingly minor…anyone would concede that…but they represent an overall lack of judgment and knowledge of the rules that could lead to something major…put another way, the best way to not cross the line is to never get anywher near it…my 2 cents’.

EW

March 15th, 2011
12:54 pm

When you paint these guys into a corner with rules that don’t allow just about everything then you are going to have minor rule infractions. The biggest issue is..did the school know what it was doing was wrong and did it intentionally bypass rules or fail to create an environment of compliance (any UT fans listening?)

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
12:56 pm

@GT is a 4th rate high school team, Thank you my leedge (hell I don’t how to spell that word) have your men and there horses assembled upon the breaking of the large fiery ball in the sky and we shall take down with a swift vengence the traitor know as Marcus Von Richtus!

Father Flannigan

March 15th, 2011
12:56 pm

Shame Shame Shame Mr. Mark Richt !

1eyedJack

March 15th, 2011
12:56 pm

What’s going on here? Who’s in charge at the NCAA, Moe, Larry and Curly?

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
12:57 pm

Bill, a little help on my spelling please. Thanks!

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 15th, 2011
12:57 pm

Who cares about these violations if it brings the BCSMNC to UGA? Who else but the fans of other schools.

anotherdawg

March 15th, 2011
12:58 pm

BREAKING NEWS: This just in Kansas coach caught jay-walking. NCAA is investigating!

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
12:58 pm

@1eyedJack, Actually, I think Shemp handled this one!

D A DoubleU G

March 15th, 2011
12:59 pm

I thoroughly feel if Richt said he was unaware it was an infraction, then he truly didn’t realize it was in infraction.

All these haters want to paint a picture of Richt as an evil, evil man, which is about the farthest truth from reality anybody could perceive.

I am also excited for the traditional pool-day this Summer, when Richt does his annual backflip, and listen to the same haters talk about how a team bonding experience/reward is the reason we are not undefeated every year. That is one of my favorite days on these childish blogs.

John, the real UGA fan

March 15th, 2011
1:00 pm

Bill, I am truly disappointed in your continued explanation of something minor. You have been anti-Richt since the bowl game. I cannot believe you are doing this. What would you say if something major happened. And Yes, it makes AJC headlines. Come on, Bill, It is not even July or August when the media is out to get UGA athletics.
Bill, you can do better!!!!!

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
1:00 pm

@ Robin Hood watching, Try this one on for size. Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses.

Vince Lombardi

March 15th, 2011
1:01 pm

What the hell is going on out here?

NC Dawg

March 15th, 2011
1:02 pm

Will Rogers said, “Thank God we don’t get all the government we pay for.” Unfortunately, we’ve gotten too much in the last two years. Nevertheless, similarly, I think we’ve gotten way too much NCAA for our money.

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
1:02 pm

@ anotherdawg, Quick, to the bat pole!!!!

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
1:03 pm

@Vince Lombardi, Now that made me laugh!!!!!!

Robin Hood watcher

March 15th, 2011
1:03 pm

schmeckdawg,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elms8GN3aIQ

DawginLex

March 15th, 2011
1:03 pm

hey bony,

Auburn has the Fulmer Cup wrapped up for 2011:

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/

Better get your polish out War Tard.

Auburn, all in, jail that is.

Floundering Fox Hounds Batman!

March 15th, 2011
1:04 pm

WOW … CMR cant even cheat well.

Preston

March 15th, 2011
1:04 pm

I’ll worry when there’s something to worry about. Geez.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 15th, 2011
1:05 pm

If Osaban bin lying got a BCSMNC to elephants why not an Evil one to those mutts( as GT fans like to say it) in Athens.

SSIgator

March 15th, 2011
1:05 pm

Nothing new here. From time to time Saint Richt exposes himself to be what he really is and not what he portrays himself to be. Not to worry UGA fans – the KoolAid will take care of this incident.

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
1:06 pm

Nicely done Robin Hood watcher!

Harvey Updyke

March 15th, 2011
1:06 pm

them hedges are poisoned now.

DawginLex

March 15th, 2011
1:07 pm

SSI,

You don’t know sheet about Mark Richt. He has more character in his pinky than you and your fanbase have in your combined worthless selves.

You better worry about re-stocking all the buffets around Gainesville for Weis. That boy can eat.

D A DoubleU G

March 15th, 2011
1:08 pm

Do GT fans realize that “mutts” are much more smiled upon and cherished than pure-bred dogs??

I think they are actually complimenting our success over them when they call us “mutts”.

Mark (another one)

March 15th, 2011
1:08 pm

If the question is, would Richt have done it had he known it broke the rules, I think the answer is clearly it depends on the possible punishment. If its like speeding on I-85, I bet he would be willing to pay an occasional fine. If its like too much celabrating after a score, he also might be willing to suffer the 15 yard penalty.

I am still struggling. Giving Isaiah a jersey wasn’t a violation and having him stand in the formation wasn’t a violation. The combination amounted to providing equipment and a game day simulation, meaning a violation? So, Richt should have given him the jersey afterwards, and all would have been in accordance with NCAA rules?

Sounds like the NCAA needs to hire their own enforcement officers and have them spend their days full time with the coaches. They can warn them off of unacceptable practices, and if there is a violation, it is either the coach ignoring their advisor, or the NCAA employee’s failure. In the mean time, the NCAA rule book has to be huge. I looked for it online but couldn’t find it. Anyone with a link?

NCAA COPS

March 15th, 2011
1:09 pm

Richt got caught intentionally cheating and that is the bottom line. For him to split hairs and state he didn’t know lining up in an offensive alignment is a game day simulation is ludicrous. That is why he didn’t want to check with his compliance guy- because he knew that it was against the rules.

The game day simulation is one of the most widely publicized and best known of secondary violations. Richt can’t hide behind the plethora of rules and regs on this one.

Richt was either intentionally dishonest or blatantly incompetent. Which is it dawg fans?

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
1:10 pm

Hey does anyone know that if you are walking down the street and you step on a crack, does it really break your mother’s back or is it just an NCAA violation. Really need to be clear on this one!

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 15th, 2011
1:11 pm

You would think Richt is running the Vatican or a religious order by the way some folks criticize him, but we all know these are all for nothing but just some exercise of our fingers.

D A DoubleU G

March 15th, 2011
1:11 pm

NCAA COPS,

you are SO right!!!! UGA deserves the Death Penalty!!!!

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
1:12 pm

@NCAA COPS, I think that he was actually incontinent. Neither of the ones you brought up BUT thanks for playing!

DawginLex

March 15th, 2011
1:12 pm

NCAACop,

Why don’t you tell us since you are so dam smart?

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 15th, 2011
1:13 pm

NCAA COPS, You probably care about the real answer, I do not.

SSIgator

March 15th, 2011
1:13 pm

DawginLex -

A little grouchy today or is it PMS time. FYI having lived in FL for many years I followed da Preacher Mans ascent from his days at UM through his exit at FSU, although I did lose track of him while he was a salesman and bartender. Just another Booby Bowden knock-off.

DawginLex

March 15th, 2011
1:14 pm

SSI,

You don’t know anything about him except what you read and what your pitiful little gator brain makes up.

D A DoubleU G

March 15th, 2011
1:15 pm

For those who really care about the UGA fotball program, here is a very good read, written by ESPN’s Chris Low.

This covers much on Richt and expectations he has going into 2011. It also has Richt quoting “he does not bother to read any blogs”.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/20619/win-or-else-season-no-different-for-richt

GO DAWGS!!!

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
1:16 pm

EEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEE NCAA COPS, you have really stepped in it! Nice job!!!!!!

NCAA COPS

March 15th, 2011
1:17 pm

Dawginlex,

My opinion is that Richt was intentionally dishonest- stating that he didn’t know the rule is ludicrous- it is an extremely well known and well defined rule. And if he had any doubt at all he should have simply asked his compliance guy. I think the problem you guys are having is that your head coach got caught in an act of dishonesty.

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
1:18 pm

@DawginLex, GATA brother!!!!!!!!!

Steve

March 15th, 2011
1:18 pm

The NCAA has other bigger problems to worry about like Auburn, Scam Newton, Reggie’s Bush, etc…….

SSIgator

March 15th, 2011
1:18 pm

DawginLex -

Wrong again dog breath. I met and talked with him at several FSU gatherings when he was there. He left there with a BS degree ala Booby Bowden.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 15th, 2011
1:19 pm

Hey folks, these blogs are all for fun especially when you are out of work and trashing your trailer as GT or OSU fans like to put it as if they do not have the same amount of the same in their fandom. LOL

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
1:19 pm

@NCAA COPS, you know what they say about opinions don’t you! You had better watch it, it looks as though you are the one on the “slippery slope!!!!!!”

NCAA COPS

March 15th, 2011
1:20 pm

SSIgator,

This saint Richt thing is just obscene. Here is a man whose program had 12 players arrested last year alone- Fulmer cup champion. And his team led the nation in personal foul penalties something like 3 years in a row. His “Christian” approach is totally phony- it sure as hell doesn’t rub off on his team. And now we see the man intentionally cheating. Sad.

SSIgator

March 15th, 2011
1:21 pm

NCAA COPS -

You won’t get any argument from me on that.

PowerDawg

March 15th, 2011
1:22 pm

Enter your comments here

WreckBuzz

March 15th, 2011
1:22 pm

I think when you run a program as undisciplined as Mark Richt does it’s easy to see why “secondary violations” should be viewed just as important as major ones. You don’t want your players picking and choosing which rules they will abide by, so the head coach needs to set the example (strange that someone who professes the level of faith that Richt does could seems so careless with the rules). But that’s exactly what happens at UGA, players like Washaun Ealey and Caleb King decide which rules should be important to follow and there’s never any real consequence.

DawginLex

March 15th, 2011
1:22 pm

My sister’s family attends church with them in Athens.

He is a good solid Christian family man.

You don’t know him. You spoke to him at a football meeting. Big deal. You don’t know him or his family. I grew up with a lot of people who now live in Athens and know him. He is solid.

Oh and BTW, it was a pleasure watching your b-ball gators become Uk’s b!otch again last week.

yearofthedawg

March 15th, 2011
1:24 pm

Come on Bill. This is beneath you. Sounds like something Bradley would write just to stir the pot. Must be a slow news day.

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
1:25 pm

Uh oh BULLDAWG Nation NCAA COPS and SSIgator and banding together. Prepare the torpedos for launch!

DawginLex

March 15th, 2011
1:25 pm

Don’t argue with low life idiots.
They take you down to their level and beat you with familiarity of the neighborhood.Don’t argue with low life idiots.
They take you down to their level and beat you with familiarity of the neighborhood.Don’t argue with low life idiots.
They take you down to their level and beat you with familiarity of the neighborhood.Don’t argue with low life idiots.
They take you down to their level and beat you with familiarity of the neighborhood.Don’t argue with low life idiots.
They take you down to their level and beat you with familiarity of the neighborhood.Don’t argue with low life idiots.
They take you down to their level and beat you with familiarity of the neighborhood.Don’t argue with low life idiots.
They take you down to their level and beat you with familiarity of the neighborhood.Don’t argue with low life idiots.
They take you down to their level and beat you with familiarity of the neighborhood.

SSIgator

March 15th, 2011
1:28 pm

DawginLex -

Careful now. Remember what Mark Twain said about people he met at church. BTW, now the “for real” basketball starts. Since Billy already has two BB NC and played in a third, (and UGA has how many?) I think UF sould fair pretty well. We shall see.

Mark Richt gained 22 lbs

March 15th, 2011
1:28 pm

This just shows that CMR is getting too big for his britches.

You Read it Here

March 15th, 2011
1:32 pm

Just goes to show that St. Richt can CHEAT with the best of them. You redneck loosers who think St. Richt didn’t know and understand the rule are as stupid as your posts.

My Sister's Dawgs in Lex

March 15th, 2011
1:32 pm

Richt is a hypocrite just like his holier than thou over the hill daddy. UGA is so obsessed with everything Gator, they thought they would hire the brains behind Saint Bobby’s offense. But the real secret behind the Hypocrite in Tally’s success was cheating Mickey Andrews.

Red Pantalones

March 15th, 2011
1:35 pm

Cheaters rule in the land of the red panties.

GBR

March 15th, 2011
1:35 pm

Big whoop. This topic is a waste of time.

Johnny Pastduedate

March 15th, 2011
1:36 pm

King, there are no “rules” anymore, just reactionary mechanisms like an invisible dog fence to a dog. The dog doesn’t really know why he can’t go past a spot, he just knows it hurts if he does and that is enough to stop the dog at that point, much like NCAA rules. The problem is the dog HAS to try all the boundaries in order to learn, and that means random moments of pain must be inflicted by the invisible fence, much to the chagrin of the dog. That’s the NCAA.

shankit

March 15th, 2011
1:36 pm

Rumor on Sports Channel is Tressel will resign
and Urban Meyer will be next head coach at OSU???

Murk Racht

March 15th, 2011
1:37 pm

I’ve never understood how anyone – even an alumnus – could support and take pride in UGA’s football team. When you look at their history for the past forty years, how can anyone ignore Jan Kemp and the “remedial studies” scam, the Jim Harrick fiasco, the DUIs in the athletic office, the DUIs and other arrests of players, the #1 party school tag (i.e., the most drunk students), the suspensions and outright dismissals, the Fulmer Cup, and on and on?

As disgraceful and humiliating as it is, I don’t see many alums and fans demanding an end to this sordid activity. It sets UGA apart as the kind of school most people abhor, and it’s become an embarrassment to the whole state of Georgia.

Will it never end? Apparently not while Mark Richt is at UGA. Richt is perhaps the biggest hypocrite in the United States. But even with all the cheating and lawlessness that he ignores, he still can’t win the SEC.

So you’re paying him to be BCS champions, but he can’t even win his SEC division. So why do you pay him millions of dollars a year?

Just asking.

Ohio-on-the-Gulf Dog

March 15th, 2011
1:39 pm

Excessive celebration against Florida is no sin!

Permitting a prize recruit to be NCAA-ineligible, even for a few moments, is something else entirely.

Calculating whether to interfere with a pass or to permit the receiver to catch it for a touchdown is a judgment call. On any given play, players can and must weigh benefits and risks, and then decide what to do accordingly.

Coach Richt’s decision to take a celebration penalty against Florida was just that, a decision that Georgia’s benefit by way of team motivation was well worth the loss of a few yards.

A coach who ignores recruiting rules risks the whole program, though. The NCAA could slam Crowell; look at what the NCAA did to A.J. Green.

But the worst effect is this: Coach Richt asks his players to stay out of jail and out of trouble, to play by the rules. Coach Richt’s decision could undermine his moral authority to lead his players.

Fortunately, this is (hopefully) a small enough matter that neither the NCAA nor Georgia’s players consider it to amount to much.

But it represents (at least a tiny) a step on the slippery slope down which the Georgia program does not want to go.

Warren Haynes For President

March 15th, 2011
1:40 pm

Don’t care at all about this. Stupid rule. Minor violoation. Ready for Friday night!!

The Orginal WDE

March 15th, 2011
1:41 pm

Trust me when I say this, because I am completely anti-Georgia…

That said: I think this shows that he’s serious about recruiting his players. Violations aren’t good, but as long as they’re minor you know he’s just busting his tail.

DawginLexisSmart

March 15th, 2011
1:41 pm

Y’all need to take DIL advice and not argue with these idiot trolls who spend all their time obsessing over UGA cause they were too dumb to get in and had to go somewhere else to college

chazzo

March 15th, 2011
1:41 pm

It is not about a secondary violation being okay. It is about a pretty silly gray area. This aint a big deal. It’s hardly newsworthy. The sky is not falling. Now, go back to sleep until spring practice resumes, and there is something of substance to discuss.

Bama fan

March 15th, 2011
1:42 pm

Heck I’m just glad it wasn’t Saban. If it was Saban aint no doubt he would be getting skewered on here and dawg fans would be clamoring for the death penalty. I can’t say if Richt intentionally broke the rule but it does seem like its a well known rule and if he had any doubt he should have just called his compliance dept head. Makes you wonder why he didn’t just do that and avoid this whole mess and ensuing bad pub.

Bellyache

March 15th, 2011
1:42 pm

If there was any justice, UGA would have been given the NCAA death penalty years ago. The behavior of its coaches and thug players is abominable.

PowerDawg

March 15th, 2011
1:43 pm

Bill
Your attempt at objectivity is just lame, dude. It’s weak and totally unnecessary. As the kennel master of a Georgia sports blog, you are supposed to be a biased and unapologetic home-teamer. You are a blogger and not a jounalist, so give us all a break.

A slippery-slope about secondary violations? The kind that occur every day, in every sport, at every school in the country?

Decisions made in good faith by our head football coach will never be an issue. Blatant disregard for the rules, ala Lane Kiffin, is another story. Flaunting and exploiting loop holes in the by-laws by the likes of Saban, Spurrier, and Nutt is also a process our coach doesn’t consider as a reasonable path to accomplishing our goals. A little honest zeal and a temporary lapse in the checks and balances system is not a reason to scream “foul”.

I would expect better from you, Bill.

Auburn is All in jail

March 15th, 2011
1:43 pm

All them boys getting all those felonies has pretty much clinched the fulmer cup

congrats

wolfman

March 15th, 2011
1:43 pm

Just another “we’re UGA football and we’re above the rules” message to the team.

TROJAN

March 15th, 2011
1:45 pm

More has been written about UGA’s self reported minor violation including a reprinting of a story during recruiting season of the self reported issues last summer than on PC Cam’s shopping himself.

Jfreak13713

March 15th, 2011
1:46 pm

Richt should not intentionally violate ANY rule because he open parades as a Christian and represents something larger that Georgia football! I don’t think less of the man because he is just that, a man but its what others who may not share his Christians views may do, think, or say. Hopefully just a mistake and no harm no foul. I do respect the man but I dissapprove of the act.

D A DoubleU G

March 15th, 2011
1:48 pm

If I were a Tech fan (thank the good lord God didn’t create me like that), and Mark Richt was 9-1 against my lowly bumble bees, I too would look at anything possible to degrade him as a man of integrity.

I would look at every bonehead college kid being a college kid arrest and make Rich 100% accountable. I would look at the missing MNC, pretending like their arent 120 FBS school competing for the same thing, and I would look at every single corner of the NCAA rule book (which I admit is asinine) and make it seem like he is doing acts of the devil.

Yeah, If i were a georgia tech fan, and MArk Richt were my daddy, I would do whatever I could to bring him down.

Missing the point

March 15th, 2011
1:48 pm

Chazzo,

You’re missing the point like a lot of dog fans. Its not that its a secondary violation which in and of itself is not a big deal.

Its the fact that Richt was intentional cheating and if he didn’t or was unsure he was too dang lazy to make a quick phone call and find out. That is the point.

IlliniDawg

March 15th, 2011
1:50 pm

I can’t even believe that this is a newsworthy topic.

Just shows how lame the NCAA is and how seriously cynical so many folks are about UGA.

This from an alumnus of a school (Illinois) that actually engaged in some REAL violations (paying recruits, gifting cars, employing players in bogus jobs, etc.). Perspective folks. This ain’t worth spending the two minutes it took to read King’s crap article. In fact, why the hell am I even spending time typing a response!

Mark Richt gained 22 lbs

March 15th, 2011
1:53 pm

Mark Richt needs to win at all cost now or he wont be the coach for 2012.

Ceasar

March 15th, 2011
1:54 pm

No connemt!!

Reginald

March 15th, 2011
1:54 pm

“a result of Richt getting sloppy while caught up in his pursuit of the Dream Team.”

Dear AJC,

Please fire Bill King. If you hired an able blogger we could perhaps get into some interesting blog conversations as opposed to what we have now… Bill writing his predictable garbage with his opinions which are almost always WRONG. And this isn’t a joke, I’m not trying to be mean. This guy is awful, I don’t read it to get mad, I read it just because I love UGA. I’d enjoy it more and I guarantee you more people would read it if you FIRED BILL.

Rooster

March 15th, 2011
1:56 pm

Richt is a thug. He needs some punishment runs. He can do things the Georgia way or move on.
Hypocrite.

Swarles Barkley

March 15th, 2011
1:56 pm

You’ve got to be kidding me. How is this an article? Bill King has a job writing this stuff?

dawg gone

March 15th, 2011
1:57 pm

Well Well the haters are here a-hating, ; a quick review ….UT in NCAA hell for problems with Football, Baseball and how in the hell can Pearl still be the B’Ball coach ?? We have Tressell and the TAT Five’s at THE Ohio State…Lane Kiffen is still drawing breath and drawing a Head Coach’s paycheck at USC of all places…Auburn who’s fans love to throw the Fulmer Cup at UGA even more than the crystal football are eating a lot of crow since what half the team just got kicked off the team…for violet crimes, not misdemeanor driving or underage drinking beefs..Major crimes…and we really want to talk about CMR and his “slippery slope” please..Can some one give us some real football news..isn’t spring ball going on now??

woebegong

March 15th, 2011
2:00 pm

Oh, I got it now. Here’s what CMR should have done.
“Hold on a minute young man, I need to contact my NCAA legal dept. head and see if this is a possible violation, before I do it”.
Oh sorry young man, they said it would take two days to wade through the complete book”.
“Well darn coach, I mean I know I have told my mom that I wanted to go to UGA since I was a youngster, but this changes everything” And I was just waiting to be influenced by some really bad violation”. Sorry coach, gotta go to Alabama, cause they and Auburn are straight shooters”.

woebegong

March 15th, 2011
2:03 pm

Don’t be so hard on Bill King now. He got the title for this story from the SECsports blog I believe it is called. They used the same title also. Hummmm, wonder how that happened.

GOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSSS

Swarles Barkley

March 15th, 2011
2:04 pm

I second what Reginald said. Bill King is being lazy and instead of coming up with a real article, he tries to provoke more anti-Mark Richt feelings by blowing a SECONDARY violation out of proportion. I see more meaningful and thoughtful posts from bloggers underneath each of his articles than I do real content in the actual articles.

Swarles Barkley

March 15th, 2011
2:06 pm

Truly, I would rather Bill King not write at all than post this garbage.

NCAA COPS

March 15th, 2011
2:07 pm

wobegong,

I feel ya on the myriad number of rules and regs. For example the Pollack- Ray Drew thing is nothing- who woulda known.

But on this particular rule it is an extremely well known rule and it in fact was covered specifically at the SEC meetings in Destin a few years ago when the controversy of game simulating brought about the rule. Richt was intentionally breaking the rule in my opinion. That or just being lazy and or incompetent in not making a quick call to his compliance officer who is probably on speed dial. Take your choice.

Let it rip

March 15th, 2011
2:10 pm

these violations are minor–no big deal. It’s just auburn and florida fans bringing all this stuff up to hurt the dawgs. It will not matter—-this dawg team is loaded and will be winning the SEC east in 2011 with blowouts over florida and auburn—mark it down!

Dr. Phil

March 15th, 2011
2:12 pm

If Crowell was going to sign, why go through all of the drama, particularly with the special treatment of Crowell. Richt is not the sharpest knife in the tool box.

red and black

March 15th, 2011
2:12 pm

This is totally laughable, and the negative comments from the fans of other teams is even more hilarious. Be careful when you choose to make fun of other school troubles. in the snap of a finger, it can be your school. All the Auburn fans who wnet on and on about the arrests at UGA seem to be missiing now that they had the same happen to them.

Do I feel a bit of satisfaction…sure…what goes around comes around, but sadly these kind of things are the norm not the exception in today’s world…that’s nothing for any of us to be proud to see.

As far as the whole Crowell thing, come on…it was ingenius and pretty dran cool. If it had happened at Florida or Auburn or Tech, you fans would have thoguth the same thing.

red and black

March 15th, 2011
2:16 pm

NCAA cops, were you at the meeting in Destin/ Did they say…”Ah coaches, you can’t simulate a game experience while a recruit watches?” I guess you were there and heard it…yeah right.

Colonel Reb

March 15th, 2011
2:18 pm

McGarity is looking through the rule book now to see if it is an NCAA violation at the end of the season to line the team up in a missing coach formation.

Delbert D.

March 15th, 2011
2:20 pm

Moving Ogletree from safety to linebacker is clearly a secondary violation.

Baddawg8

March 15th, 2011
2:21 pm

If Crowell was already going to commit then why did Richt do this and humiliate his 4 other running backs by lining up the team and saying the ruining back position was empty. It will either turn things sour at RB position next year (not that it could get much worse) or it will heat up competition. For Richt’s sake I hope it’s the latter.

RxDawg

March 15th, 2011
2:21 pm

Much ado about nothing. Reading what the rules state, I wouldn’t think what Richt did was “simulating a game time experience” either. But it is, lesson learned, move on.

UGA '05

March 15th, 2011
2:21 pm

First of all David Pollack is a reporter and should be able to visit the signing w/o violations. Secondly Richt treated Crowell well on his visit. Had Richt not of done that we wouldn’t of had Crowell sign. Finally atleast UGA came clean about the violations unlike Jim Tressel who’’s a lying cheat.

Willie Martinez

March 15th, 2011
2:21 pm

Playing Ogletree at corner last season was clearly a secondary violation.

DAWGS forever

March 15th, 2011
2:23 pm

Richts knows and abides by the rules and doesn’t look for loop holes. We have to believe hm when he says he didn’t know these were violations. It would take and IRS agent to properly understand all the rules. go DAWGS!

DAWGS forever

March 15th, 2011
2:26 pm

Dream Team = Dream Season! Go DAWGS!

Colonel Reb

March 15th, 2011
2:26 pm

Forever,

I thought McGarity gave more time to Richt to “study football”. I see it is working well so far. Six NCAA violations in the offseason and it’s only March.

The dream team is already a nightmare.

Whisky Breath

March 15th, 2011
2:30 pm

Very sharp analysis. Most fans won’t get what happened but you hit it right on the head.
He pulled a Lane Kiffin knowing that it was a secondary violation. In other words CMR thumbed his nose to the rules. Just like Kiffin did.

UGA '05

March 15th, 2011
2:31 pm

The only reason those 4 Auburn players were robbing that place was b/c Coach Gizik was in debt after paying Scam Newton all that money. He needed some more money to get another Scam Newton.

Nick Fairley

March 15th, 2011
2:33 pm

DAWGS forever

March 15th, 2011
2:26 pm

Dream Team = Dream Season! Go DAWGS!

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IF your dream season involves NCAA probation, then you’re in luck because you will have a dream season!

monty

March 15th, 2011
2:36 pm

No one was paid and no request for “pay for play” was made by Isaiah’s father. Nuff said.

It's Time For A Change!

March 15th, 2011
2:36 pm

I have no problems with what Richt did. Was it a little Korny? Well yeah, but I don’t think it was a violation of any rule. Amazing how little things like this make a big stink in Birmingham, ALABAMA, but when all the obvious violations were taking place at Aubarn, nothing was done. Just swept under the carpet…… I’m just sayin…..

Nick Fairley

March 15th, 2011
2:38 pm

DAWGS forever

March 15th, 2011
2:23 pm

Richts knows and abides by the rules and doesn’t look for loop holes. We have to believe hm when he says he didn’t know these were violations. It would take and IRS agent to properly understand all the rules. go DAWGS!

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Yikes! Low standards huh?

Let’s see, “hey Isiah, look, the team is practicing and what do we have here… we have 5 offensive lineman, a quarterback, a tight end, three receivers, but oh no, no running back! Oh man what shall we do!? Hey what’s your favorite number? WELL who’d guessed it, here’s a red jersey with that number! And oh, is that your name? Wow, this must be a sign. Why don’t you line up right there and we’ll run a few plays…”

Yeah, wow, you seriously think he didn’t know that? Wasn’t it on the other thread that the defending national champion coach of the Auburn Tigers is the one who saw Pollack there at Ray Drew’s signing day and filed a complaint? If Auburn knows these are the rules then I guess not only is Auburn better on the field, they’re better off the field and at meeting NCAA rules.

Seriously, there is no way to spin this to a positive and I sure as heck hope the NCAA show up to start asking question$ about what’s going on at thUGA.

Win P.

March 15th, 2011
2:41 pm

Understand why he gets the big bucks.

Nick Fairley

March 15th, 2011
2:41 pm

2 violations = 2 strikes! Sure there is a third one in that nightmare team recruitment.

i’m going to need some popcorn, just like I needed after Georgia own the fulmer cup, after Georgia had the horrific start, after UF beat Gerogia, Auburn stomped Georgia, after Georgia lost to UCF and now this! Man, this is great stuff.

Ed (The Original)

March 15th, 2011
2:41 pm

I agree that this is a nit-picky violation, probably one that rises to the level of B.S. But I wonder about Richt’s judgment at times. After more than 30 years in college football as a player, assistant and head coach, Richt didn’t have some inkling that this stunt might violate some obscure NCAA rule? I mean, how many years has he dealt with the NCAA?

Kind of reminds me of the aftermath of the ‘07 endzone celebration during the UF game that Richt ordered (or sort of ordered depending on the story); afterwards he seemed kind of perplexed by the hoopla that followed. He never seemed to get how bush league that made him and his team look.

I don’t know if he’s disingenuous or just not that bright.

Richt may have been trying to build his “dream team”, but what Georgia football is sorely lacking are dream coaches. We’ve had the horses for years.

Montgomery Attorney

March 15th, 2011
2:43 pm

My clients robbed their victim cause Auburn violated
their commitment to them by cancelling their ATM cards,
and closing the slot machines at Victory Land.

Nick Fairley

March 15th, 2011
2:43 pm

monty

March 15th, 2011
2:36 pm

No one was paid and no request for “pay for play” was made by Isaiah’s father. Nuff said.

—-

Which we all know doesn’t matter if the player didn’t know. nuff said? I think so.

Although I hope crowell’s dad did, or maybe his uncle. I’d love to see UGA fans stance on that!

Nick Fairley

March 15th, 2011
2:45 pm

Montgomery Attorney

March 15th, 2011
2:43 pm

My clients robbed their victim cause Auburn violated
their commitment to them by cancelling their ATM cards,
and closing the slot machines at Victory Land.
—-

you can put that dream right there with your dream team and dream season, none of it will ever achieve what you hope other than making your bed wet.

Nick Fairley

March 15th, 2011
2:47 pm

Really? He didn’t know?
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Richt and the football staff arranged for offensive players to gather in the new indoor practice area wearing uniform tops during Crowell’s exit interview and to look up to Richt’s new office, which overlooks the area.

Richt, Crowell, who is from Columbus Carver High School, and his family then left to join the players.

“By the time [Crowell] made his way to the field, the team was in an offensive alignment without a running back,” according to a March 4 letter written by Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity to the NCAA that was obtained under an open records request. “[Crowell] was subsequently handed a jersey and stood in the vacant running back position created by the team.”

Georgia said in the letter that “Richt has reported that the idea was to create a feeling for [Crowell] that he was needed at the running back position.”

NCAA rules prohibit a game-day simulation.

sogadog

March 15th, 2011
2:47 pm

When I first heard about this I felt like it was a violation and Crowell’s Mama had let the cat out of the bag. It reminded me of UF putting recruits names up on the scoreboard in the Swamp. I dont see how CMR can say lining up the team and letting the recruit stand in at tailback is not a game day simulation. It is nothing but a game day simulation. McGarity argues Crowell was headed to UGA anyway, in that case, why pull the stunt in the first place? I hope we dont get hit hard on this.

Nick Fairley

March 15th, 2011
2:49 pm

Crowell: “Man, I went to Georgia and it was awesome. They let me know there’s a spot for me right da way! Alabama and Auburn didn’t do that for me, they didn’t show me da love… and they gave me this bulldog to hold up to the cameras and said I could keep him! Awesome. He’ll do great in the fight at Bad Newz kennels tonight!”

UGA '05

March 15th, 2011
2:50 pm

Someone please tell me why Pollack can’t be at Drew’s signing. Pollack is a reporter. I don’t understand how that is a violation.

mdr

March 15th, 2011
2:50 pm

I could not possibly care any less about this.

tony purvis

March 15th, 2011
2:52 pm

GooooooooOOOOOOOOOO DAAAAAAAAAWGZ…..Sic’em……WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF

Ed (The Original)

March 15th, 2011
2:52 pm

Bill, I wasn’t one of the Georgia fans who thought the endzone celebration was “a gutsy motivational ploy.” I was one of the fans who was cursing the fact that we had to kick off to one of the best offenses in America from the 7 1/2 yard line.

I also wondered why such a ploy was necessary in the biggest conference game of the year, against a bitter, traditional rival. If team spirit isn’t sky-high for the Florida game, you have the wrong coaches, the wrong players, or both.

dawgster

March 15th, 2011
2:54 pm

@Matthews Dawg…agreed with your comments, I responded back and put my two cents worth in but it didn’t post….I’m a little disappointed in Bill for this article…I guess needing to stir up the pot a little. Its amazing that this kind of stuff happens all the time in recruiting, but the AJC goes out of their way to find something negative towards the dawgs. Wonder why these other school local newspapers seem to avoid this stuff…..Anyway, Coach Richt seems to be dang if he does or dang if he doesn’t . go dawgs

ryan

March 15th, 2011
2:57 pm

It sound like this is yawn story Richt did a play with Crowell and David Pollack was Ray Drew announcement like its really hard core NCAA come on man .

dawg gone

March 15th, 2011
2:58 pm

Nick Fairley for a rented DT who played one year of big boy football your a real expert aren’t you? You really think your thuggish antics will be tolerated in the NFL? Best guess is your cut off at the knees withing 3 plays of that late hit, pile driving bull crap you got away with last year..truth is you didn’t have a choice but to bolt for the NFL knowing you made way too many SEC enemies to get thur another SEC schedule with that fat aZZ intact. when did you the Champ of Chump ever give a rat’s rear about the rules??

Whisky Breath

March 15th, 2011
2:59 pm

Hey Bill, instead of calling it like it is, apparently you are supposed to be a some kind of homer.
Didn’t you know that? Ga fans don’t want you to tell the truth, just get that homer stuff down. Don’t make me have to tell you again. Bradley could use the same advise.

Fly down the field

March 15th, 2011
3:00 pm

dawg gone

March 15th, 2011
2:58 pm
Nick Fairley for a rented DT who played one year of big boy football

_________________________________________________________________________

That is an incorrect statement.

VININGSDAWG

March 15th, 2011
3:00 pm

As our idiots keep complaining, will one of them show me what Auburn has done? There is no one on the board that can define one thing that Auburn has done. The NCAA has looked into the Cam Newton mess and found nothing. The FBI is looking into the Kenny Rogers / street agents crap.

Every school has secondaries but it is when you know you are doing it when it becomes a concern. Ohio State has had almost 300 secondary violations during the time of Tressel. That is inexcusable. I believe that the NCAA needs a rule that when you accumulate so many secondaries, you lose a scholarship. I believe that will curtail a lot of the flagrant secondaries such as the famous Saban Bump rule.

BULLDAWGS WILL ROLL BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:01 pm

JIMMY V IS A GONNA AND NC STATE WON A TITLE ON A SHOULDA BEEN CALLED GOALTENDING FLUKE PLAY-DAWGS ROLL AND N.C. STATE IS A SECOND RATE SCHOOL…HOWS THE NIT-OH WAIT YOU DIDNT MAKE IT…BWAHAHAHA

Paul

March 15th, 2011
3:02 pm

I bleed Red and Black. I love the Bulldogs, and I think the NCAA has some stupid rules, but you have to check out everything in todays stupid NCAA. If another school had gotten Crowell and had done this, Bulldog Nation would be up in arms. Just check and re check next time.

THE MAJOR

March 15th, 2011
3:02 pm

dawg gone….Nick Fairley will make more in one year than you will in a lifetime. Envy sucks soesn’t it Bud!

BULLDAWGS WILL ROLL BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:02 pm

AUBURN IS DANCING-AT A NIGHT CLUB….BWAHAHAHA…HOWS THAT BASKETBALL THING COMING FOR YA-SWEEEEEEPPPPPP

MikeP

March 15th, 2011
3:04 pm

Just saying
March 15th, 2011
11:15 am
“Puh-lease! Cam and Auburn go scot-free while UGA gets nit picked to death.”
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Cam and Auburn did nothing wrong, UGA did. See how simple it is?

Vols_1

March 15th, 2011
3:05 pm

Six secondary violations in about a month. Winning the so-called Fulmer Cup last year. Good stuff, Dawgs. You have no room to criticize any other program.

Kiffin had seven secondaries in a year and you people were in hysterics. Apparently it’s okay for Richt to break the rules at whim.

snoopy

March 15th, 2011
3:05 pm

Bill – Are you on a slippery slope for writing one too many STOOOPID articles??

MCDAVIDDAWG

March 15th, 2011
3:07 pm

I think as the end of Richt nears, it was that important that he get the running back. Richt has little hope for success next year and none without a better running game. It could solve just one of his many problems. Not coaching for at least 5 years does present some problems.

anotherdawg

March 15th, 2011
3:08 pm

Anyone who knows Mark Richt, knows if he says he didn’t think it was a violation, then that’s the truth. Besides, if he had really known it was, would he have been talking about it? No, he would have had Crowell and everyone else involved keep it quiet. Let’s face it, the negative blogs are either people trying to be cute, or they are from rival teams that enjoy any chance to ridicule our program. Reminds me of the old westerns, where half of the town is always wanting to lynch someone, and that someone is almost always innocent.

snoopy

March 15th, 2011
3:08 pm

Uhh Vols_1… Kiffin in one season now has the NCAA at your door step.. What he did in one year (besides embarassing the UT peeps) will haunt your program for another few years.. Good thing you now have a good man running the football program & not a gimmik…

SickandTired

March 15th, 2011
3:09 pm

Where the line should be draw is pretty obvious. If he’s dumb enough to not know that it was a violation, then it explains why he can’t compete with the elite of the SEC. If he knew it was a violation and did it anyway, he should be fired for cause. He’s two faced and self righteous. He needs to be fired so someone with some intelligence and coaching prowess can get the ship righted before it’s back to the Goff era.
Georgia: The Wisconsin of the SEC

dawg gone

March 15th, 2011
3:10 pm

Fly down the field thanks for correcting me I forgot the 2 games he started for the Tiggers in 09..VININGSDAWG last I looked Auburn won the NC this year..but your on point about so many secondary violations = lose a scholarship..that’s a good idea.

SickandTired

March 15th, 2011
3:10 pm

Hey, another Dawg….I know Mark Richt and he lies. He’s a real piece of work.

Do_Tell

March 15th, 2011
3:12 pm

Gentlemen and some ladies! Those NCAA folks have to do something to justifiy their huge salaries for the little work they do. Their salaries come from the blood and sweat of the football players. The NCAA is a joke. Schools should pull out of it.

black & blue dawg

March 15th, 2011
3:14 pm

SILLY STUFF— NOT PAYING THEM LIKE OTHER SEC SCHOOLS

dawg gone

March 15th, 2011
3:16 pm

MikeP you just had 4 players kicked off the team for violent crimes…one would think you would at least pause from your chest beating for a minute or two to ponder…how much background info was gathered on those fellows during and prior to recruiting them?

Ted Striker

March 15th, 2011
3:16 pm

Ticky tack stuff.

Saban

March 15th, 2011
3:18 pm

I’m glad I let Richt have Crowell. It helps him keep his job another year and on top of that I landed the MVP of the US Army All American game 5 star running back Dee Hart. Funny but I don’t remember Crowell doing anything in the allstar games. NADA! He got shut down and will just be another Caleb King washout.

NCAA COPS

March 15th, 2011
3:19 pm

Ted Striker,

Ticky Tack stuff? Only if you call intentional cheating ticky tack.

dawg gone

March 15th, 2011
3:21 pm

SickandTired really you know CMR? Really and he lies….and is a real piece of work..Troll ! Oh and yes I’ve meet him too and members of my family have worked with him in the past. From the people I know and trust the theme is the same they would ALL want CMR to coach their sons as much for the man he is as for the coach he is.

Athens= God's Country

March 15th, 2011
3:24 pm

Bill

The Dawgs are in the tournament and you write this garbage? I thought every team did this anyway?

Is it illegal because Neon Badoe, Ricky Roe, and Butch did this in Blue Chips? They should fire Nick Nolte at Western.

Richie

March 15th, 2011
3:27 pm

Who cares!!!!!

Old Dawg

March 15th, 2011
3:29 pm

I haven’t read the NCAA recruiting regulations in a long time, but when I’ve read them in the past I was overwhelmed with the complications, redundancies and hallucinations conjured by those folks.

I’m equally overwhelmed by how far college programs will bend over backwards (or forward) to sign a 17-18 year-old who may or may not become a starter, much less an All-American. It’s all insane, but it’s also the way the recruiting wars are fought.

On another subject, is there anyway you can post some photos of the new indoor facility with your blog, Bill? Or maybe with one of Tim’s stories. I know it will be some sort of recruiting violation, but as long as CMR is wearing a red sweater vest, white shirt, red and black tie and silver dress slacks I think the tools at the NCAA will be cool to the idea.

All sarcasm aside, is there anyway we can see the place?

Bama Mike

March 15th, 2011
3:31 pm

We would not even be discussing this if Richt would have just brought out the special teams for a field goal formation. Seems that was all they were in in 2010.

Athens= God's Country

March 15th, 2011
3:32 pm

Old Dawg

Go to redandblack.com

Fly down the field

March 15th, 2011
3:33 pm

dawg gone

March 15th, 2011
3:16 pm
MikeP you just had 4 players kicked off the team for violent crimes…one would think you would at least pause from your chest beating for a minute or two to ponder…how much background info was gathered on those fellows during and prior to recruiting them?

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Goodwin from College Park, one of the Auburn players arrested, was recruited by UGA, fyi.

McNeil, the starting safety and leading tackler in the BCS title game, was going into his Senior year. He should have known better being a team veteran but each one of the players got exactly what they deserved…….a big boot to the behind off the team and time in the pokey.

Chizik acted promptly to the matter and it’s over as far as the team is concerned.

Also, enough of this “Liar Liar Pants on Fire” case against Auburn. Fact: Auburn does not have a LOI from the NCAA thus they are NOT under investigation. Only in the world of bammer and Georgia fans does the Liar Liar case count.

P. Bull Terrier

March 15th, 2011
3:33 pm

The NCAA seems to have become too focused on the technical letter of the rules instead of focusing on the intended spirit of the rules. In all probability, the reason that a rule prohibiting a game day simulation was written was to prevent teams from having recruits participate in try-outs or practice type activities. The spirit of the rule was to protect high school level recruits from being put into a situation where they are in a competitive situation with college level players and to prevent teams from gaining an unfair advantage by “practicing” with a recruit before he becomes an official member of the team. I doubt the intent of the rule ever had anything to do with preventing a symbolic gesture designed to make the recruit feel wanted. But when you start focusing on the technical letter of the rules instead of the intent of the rules, these are the types of decisions you get.

The decision with Cam Newton and his father is another example of this misplaced focus on the technical letter of the law. Everyone knows that the intent of the rule prohibiting a player or his family from soliciting benefits from a school was intended to cover exactly the type of situation that happend when Mr. Newton tried to sell Cam. The problem is that the rule didn’t technically address the specific situation in the Cam Newton case where the claim is made that the player didn’t know what the father was doing. Under the spirit of the rule, the Newtons are clearly guilty of an infraction that should have impacted Cam’s eligibility. Instead, the Newtons got off the hook on a technicality.

As long as the NCAA continues to focus on the technicalities instead of the intent behind their rules, there are going to be a lot of cases where the NCAA’s actions just don’t make sense to the rest of the world. It’s impossible to write a rule book that covers every possible scenerio, so schools, coaches, players, sportswriters, and fans won’t know what is actually a violation until after the NCAA reacts to whatever the perceived violation may be.

G'Vegas Dawg

March 15th, 2011
3:35 pm

During Lame K’s last dead period at UT he came to a certain high school to visit a recruit. He knew it was the dead period. He had his driver pull to the front of the school and go inside. His flunky went to the front office and asked to speak to the head coach. When the coach came to the front office the flunky asked him if there was a room in the building that was near an exit that was private. When the coach showed him where to go, he pulled around and dropped Lame off at the door. Lame entered the building wearing khakis and a black coat. Once he was in the classroom he took off his gear and threw on his UT stuff and proceeded to pull the athlete out of class to talk to him. Let’s compared apples with apples here. Mark Richt is nowhere near Lame Kiffin.

mad dawg one

March 15th, 2011
3:41 pm

Bill for you to even put CMR’s name in the same blog as lane kiffin is something that a gt fan would do. I thought better of you.

Maria in Roswell

March 15th, 2011
3:41 pm

Mark Richt is nowhere near Lame Kiffin.

No he’s not. Richt makes Kiffin look like a choirboy.

Richt is the biggest cheater and the sleaziest scumbag in the SEC, if not the country.

Fly down the field

March 15th, 2011
3:41 pm

P. Bull Terrier:

Cam was ruled ineligible the Monday of the SEC title game. He was reinstated by the NCAA the next day.

Vicki

March 15th, 2011
3:42 pm

Mark needs to clean up his program, period. UGA is always in the media for doing something wrong…..All this rests on Mark’s shoulders.

bubba4dawgs

March 15th, 2011
3:43 pm

OK, let’s say that one of the players is in the locker room and can’t find a roll of toilet paper. CMR comes along and is asked for a roll. Uh, Oh, CMR…..call NCAA for approval but in the meantime, tell the player to “hold what he’s got, so we can send it to the NCAA for proof that the toilet paper was indeed needed.” They make you wanna choke and puke! You go CMR! You’re da best! GO DAWGS!!

dawg gone

March 15th, 2011
3:46 pm

Fly down the field what is your point I never said Auburn did anything wrong in regards to Cam..and it never stops the Barners from calling UGA players thugs etc when they recruited them too.I agree the Chiz did move fast on this and it had to be hard to dismiss the senior there was little room for him to grant any mercy here but it had to be tough..hate to see this at any school…

Bama Mike

March 15th, 2011
3:47 pm

Your right Kiffin has a National Championship from USC and gave Richt a royal beat-down the only time they coached against one another. I would say Richt is a tad behind in the accomplishment comparisons.

Colonel Reb

March 15th, 2011
3:49 pm

bubba4dawgs,

I believe that is Dave Van Halanger’s new job.

Dawg Man

March 15th, 2011
3:49 pm

I guess Richt should have just forked over a few hundred thousand dollars…apparently, the NCAA has no problem with that. Then he and Crowell could have gone and beat up a cop so bad he winds up in the ICU, that’s cool too. Then they can go commit armed robbery.

People are making a bigger deal of this than need be.

Bama Mike

March 15th, 2011
3:52 pm

Understand your compliance department is looking to have a little sit down with “Turbo Pollack” covering their interpretation of what is a media representative and what defines conflict of interest. The look in Pollack’s face is classic. “Duh, I may be not suppose to be here, duh” Classic.

Hoya Hoya

March 15th, 2011
3:52 pm

There were a lot of things for the dawgs to celebrate this year. Let’s see…

1. A drunken, whoring athletic director with red panties in his lap.

2. Twelve players arrested. And 41% of UGA football players are arrested during their time at UGA.

3. A player suspended for violating NCAA rules.

4. Winning the Fulmer Cup for the most players arrested.

5. Winning the title of #1 party school (i.e., the most drunken student body in the USA).

6. A sleazy assistant coach who razzes opposing players, unethical coaching conduct in violation of NCAA rules.

7. A super sleazy head coach who thinks he’s a saint, but recruits thug wannabes, gangbangers, and illiterate morons.

8. A 6-7 record despite having a team full of 4- and 5-star recruits.

That’s really something to be proud of!

the real Kirby Smart

March 15th, 2011
3:55 pm

If you’re not cheating (at least a little cutting of corners here and there) they you ain’t trying. Good for CMR.

dawg gone

March 15th, 2011
4:00 pm

Hoya Hoya face it Troll you have nothing to be proud of…you have nothing period.

dawg gone

March 15th, 2011
4:01 pm

Bama Mike really your calling out David Pollack as dumb..your first name is Bama…how much traction you think your going to get on this one??

Fly down the field

March 15th, 2011
4:01 pm

dawg gone – my last point wasn’t specifically directed at you just clarification for others.

Auburn is All in jail

March 15th, 2011
4:03 pm

Nick Fairley

I would suggest you go work out so you won’t be working in McDonald’s this time next year.

and congrats on the 2011 Fulmer Cup.

It is all yours.

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/

Auburn is All in jail

March 15th, 2011
4:05 pm

hoya hoya,

This 2011

This is Auburn’s year to claim the Cup

Auburn is All in jail

March 15th, 2011
4:05 pm

Auburn is all in, the front door, with a gun.

80 Fulmer Cup points by March 15th

a new record

Pat Dye is so proud

Auburn is All in jail

March 15th, 2011
4:07 pm

Maria, go make me a sandwich.

You must have been banging Kiffin if you are defending him.

No one has ever defended him

Auburn is All in jail

March 15th, 2011
4:08 pm

Bama Mike,

Kiffin has a national title the same way Richt does, as an assistant coach

Auburn is All in jail

March 15th, 2011
4:11 pm

Colonel Reb, the only thing your lousy excuse of a school is good for is producing hot women

They love it when the Georgia men come to town

Bama Mike

March 15th, 2011
4:17 pm

Kiffin actually has two. Plus and you got to credit this. Have you seen his wife. Wow just Wow. Dawg Gone your probably right awkward would be more acurate. Either way it was lacking in judgement to the highest for him to remotely be there.

The Ghost of Wally Butts

March 15th, 2011
4:18 pm

Dear NCAA Police:

I have had evil thoughts about UGA opponents.

I have had impure thoughts about the Tennessee HO-stesses and about Lame Kitten’s wife.

How much punishment will my bad thought-life cost UGA?

Hell, maybe we should just train our recruits to steal laptops (Newton) and play while ineligible (Tressell). No big deal that way.

Bama Mike

March 15th, 2011
4:23 pm

I do wish some Buckeye fans woould post about their beloved little sweater vested coach. Would love for them to explain his actions to this audience. Could you imagine if that had occurreed to any any SEC coach.

7576DAWG

March 15th, 2011
4:23 pm

CMR knew that the stunt had a chance to be a violation or he would have run it as a play with no restrictions. By modifying the situation he was able to play dumb. I knew that Pollack and Godfrey was a violation when it came over the air live. Unless Bobo is an idiot , he did too. All the coaches modify a situation so that it want fit exactly with the rule , just so there will be a question as to where it would be a violation. It was reported that Tressel of Ohio State had 238 secondary violations last year. If that’s true and very little was done then all the coaches show how much they respect these rules by just ignoring them. There are certain coaches that will do anything to get an advantage in recruiting and the other coaches are fools not to exploit the weaknesses of the top recruits.
Just think how many violations are never caught or repoted. Back 30 years ago when there wasn’t 20 media guys following ever recruit everywhere even the Saban’s ,Myers and Kiffin’s of the world probably blushed with 1000’s of violations occurring daily.

Dawgfan17

March 15th, 2011
4:30 pm

One secondary violation does not make a slope of any sort. The other “violations” were not by the school or anyone associated with it.

Coachdawg 2000

March 15th, 2011
4:32 pm

NCAA and Dan Wermer are putting Coach Mark Richt on “double secret probabtion” for pulling the tags off of his mattress.

Auburn is All in jail

March 15th, 2011
4:36 pm

It would take the entire UGA team to commit murder in order to catch up to Auburn’s Fulmer Cup point total.

WDE!!!!!!!!!!!

7576DAWG

March 15th, 2011
4:38 pm

When each school run a profile on the top recruit’s you better bet the top coaches are going to exploit this news to give them an advantage with that recruit. If a coach finds out that a recruit likes to fish it’s not an accident that on every visit the head coach or an assistant ends up at a river bank or pond with fishing gear . Or in the case of LSU every recruit that thinks they are a lady’s man ends up being escorted by half a dozen cheerleaders or half a dozen of those fully developed majorette that every man drools over. Coaches use every trick in the game to place the recruit in a fantasy world . When the recruit comes back to reality they are already signed , sealed and delivered.

big o

March 15th, 2011
4:40 pm

Dude we won 6 games !!! I wouldn’t care if he brought in Larry Munson To do a play by play !!! Way to go CMR !!!! Go Dawgs !!!! and play B. Smith at corner this year

JDawg1785

March 15th, 2011
4:47 pm

Pales in comparison to tattoos and oversigning like some of the other coaches are doing.

Timbodog

March 15th, 2011
4:48 pm

Here’s the thing:
If Richt were WINNING GAMES, I wouldn’t care one bit.

But his coaching has been merely average his whole career, and way below average the past few years.

How long will it take before my fellow Dawg fans get it?

TROJAN

March 15th, 2011
4:50 pm

If CMR has only run the play for the FATHER of the recruit, would it have been a violation?

Auburn is All in jail

March 15th, 2011
4:52 pm

timbo thinks winning 2 SEC titles when we hadn’t won anything in 20 years is average.

You must be Ray Goff’s uncle

Timbodog

March 15th, 2011
4:56 pm

And about the “violation” itself: I won’t even discuss whether I think it should be against the rules, as it doesn’t matter. It is, and that’s all there is to it. Richt should know better.

But more than that, it was desperate and pathetic to make such a show of all but guaranteeing a starting spot to a guy who has never played a single down of college ball.

Down South Dawg

March 15th, 2011
4:59 pm

CRACK BABIES—ONE AND ALL!

Bill, Play something we like ! Not this same old crap!

What a bush leagur blog.— Get A Life !

Timbodog

March 15th, 2011
4:59 pm

“Auburn is all in,”
It is average when you look at the fact that we are the ONLY school in the state with the 4th most talent of ANY state in the country. Yes, completely average. Quit defending Richt and demand excellence.

Do you like looking up at Alabama and Auburn? Why the heck do they win titles when we can’t even sniff one? You realize they have virtually NO talent in their crummy state, right?

They get all their talent from…GEORGIA. Which means they’re either better at evaluating our talent or developing it.

And you’re happy with this???

gbal

March 15th, 2011
5:01 pm

Bill, Really… take a look at yourself. You are truely getting more and more like JS and MB in you negativity towards UGA. You were always the one blogatologist (although it takes a guest) that was pro UGA. You are leaning more and more to the left as time goes on.

If your just a guest and not getting paid, do the respectful thing and turn in your notice, and let the AJC find new untainted blood. youve lost your edge.

If you just enjoy it to much to step down, apply for a full time position with the AJC and take a position alongside the others. Your just as qualified. But let a new positive guy take your slot.

Einsteindawg

March 15th, 2011
5:11 pm

While I haven’t been a Richt cheerleader the past four years, and I’ll be calling for his head if we don’t contend for the SEC East this year, I’ll give him a pass on these silly violations. In my opinion, these insignificant (and inconsistent) time/money wasters are just a desperate attempt by the NCAA to justify their job. They, as well as most everyone else, know that sooner rather than later, the BCS will be college football and basketball’s governing body. It’s all about the money.

howboutchee

March 15th, 2011
5:12 pm

OMG! Get over it! I’m not even a Richt supporter but I know (and every other true SEC fan should know) that you must bend the rules and even break them at times to land the prized recruits in today’s day and age! Gone are the days of kids from GA, attending UGA because that’s what’s supposed to happen. Look around the country and find all the secondary violations of every SEC school and get back with me, I guarantee that UGA is no worse than the other contenders in the SEC.

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U Get Arrested

March 15th, 2011
5:22 pm

Spring break is near and the Fulmer Cup is ready!

Athens Jail Blotter

March 15th, 2011
5:23 pm

Got plenty of ink for this years news.

Colonel Reb

March 15th, 2011
5:24 pm

gbal,

Bill has gone to the dark side because there is no bright side left at UGA.

Your dream team has turned into a nightmare before they even stepped on the field.

41 days from signing day and they have already racked up six NCAA violations for UGA.

10 - 6

March 15th, 2011
5:28 pm

Yep thats about right… 6 points and 6 NCAA violations fot the UGA fooball team.

Jim Tressel

March 15th, 2011
5:30 pm

Mark Richt should fire his A D.

mad dawg one

March 15th, 2011
5:32 pm

bama mike
after reading your post I am now sure you just can’t fix stupid

7576DAWG

March 15th, 2011
5:33 pm

At least nobody has been arrested , yet.

shane#1

March 15th, 2011
5:37 pm

How is lining up in a mock formation a “game day simulation”? No pads, no helmet, and indoors at that. I think the best thing that UGA can do is stop all this self reporting. If you get busted by the NCAA then deal with it, but never self report. I see little danger of being busted by that crowd, when it comes to finding real violations, the NCAA couldn’t track an elephant across a beach.

SouthGA Dawg

March 15th, 2011
5:49 pm

AU has four players arrested and we are talking about this? Am I the only person to see this is just a smear tactic against UGA. It is a joke if this is the only thing you can write about. If UGA had those players from AU it would be all over this paper every day.GET A LIFE, UGA GATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Colonel Reb

March 15th, 2011
5:50 pm

Hey 10-6,

It will always be 5:50 at Knight in Athens!

SouthGA Dawg

March 15th, 2011
5:56 pm

TimBo Dawg,
AU gets the talent from GA because they pay 180k for it!!! Who knows how much Satan pays at Alabama. You dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure out how those kids are driving new cars. It is a known fact that they stuff envelopes of money into the left inside pockets of the recruits jackets.

PTC DAWG

March 15th, 2011
6:09 pm

What a goofy article.

Josh

March 15th, 2011
6:16 pm

BILL, FIND SOMETHING OF WORTH TO WRITE ABOUT….STILL CAN’T FIND IT IN YOURSELF TO BE POSITIVE CAN YOU?

AltamahaDawg

March 15th, 2011
6:27 pm

The interesting part to me is that the NCAA has never said this was a voilation. The SEC office is the one who came back with that ruling. Odd the commisioner can decide that “intent to receive” is completely fine if no actual money changed hands, but its crystal clear this was intent to simulation game day, even though no actual play simulation took place.

AltamahaDawg

March 15th, 2011
6:32 pm

Just have Crowell state that he never realized he was holding a football jersey, and doesn’t remember seeing any other players on the field. The SEC office should take that hook, line, and sinker. It’s as plausible as some others.

Jimmy Payne

March 15th, 2011
6:34 pm

Must be a seriuosly slow month at the ajc for ya’ll to come up with this crap. Liberals are creative. If it ain’t true or has no meaning put it in headlines and it becomes fact and it becomes news.

Referee

March 15th, 2011
6:42 pm

Why don’t you report the facts and not give your opinion. The AJC took a picture of a recriut and then said it was UGA’s fault for not telling the AJC idiot that took the picture. That is the same as the NCAA and it’s rules that make no sense. Anyone who thinks this is important is also an idiot.

Skitty Fritty

March 15th, 2011
6:44 pm

$cam & Cecil Newton, Bruce Pearl & Trussell – no worries about Richt, there are bigger fish to fry!

icedawg

March 15th, 2011
6:55 pm

It is better to forget the theatrics. Focus upon the real thing.

PT

March 15th, 2011
7:25 pm

If anyone thinks Richt or Georgia has not shown a sense of urgency the last few years, these secondary violation should remove all doubt.

cammy cam cam

March 15th, 2011
7:31 pm

Why all the hate on me? i’ve been investigated and cleared, the investigation hasn’t even begun in athens and yall been caught.

face it, youre at best the 8th best maybe 9th behind msu in the sec now and headed nowhere fast. the cheating makes sense, youre desperate to win more than you lose, to beat a team with a winning record, to beat uf and to catch up with auburn. none of that is going to happen and the rest of the sec will ridicule gawga until they admit we are not as good as Auburn, Florida, Alabama, LSU, Tennessee (name carries more weight since they won the bcs), Arkansas, South Carolina and maybe Ms St as well.

When you admit you probably wont have a winning record til 2013 then we’ll let off the gas.

Till then:
6-7
49-31

make that your garage door code and remember it all year long… till its worse next season.

cammy cam cam

March 15th, 2011
7:36 pm

btw, keep cmr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

he’s a great coach. there wont be anybody better for gawga anyways. muschamp? nah, his types hold out for the big schools. kiffin, wouldnt have thought twice. you want a coach that’s committed. cmr is as committed to gawga as the gawga family is to the inbreeding of dogs as mascots. its great for everyo… gawga.

http://www.keepcmr.com

Delbert D.

March 15th, 2011
7:39 pm

“[Crowell's] mother has stated that her son knew he was going to attend UGA since he was a young child.”

Three wise men appeared, bearing gifts of red and black.

powerhouse?

March 15th, 2011
7:51 pm

Fox going to RDU?

woebegong

March 15th, 2011
7:54 pm

Darn Bill,
this is the best you have done in a long time with a blog. Now just imagine how well you could do if you actually worked at a story that had some real meat in it though. Of course, you have been able to get a bunch of comments from the negative people of other schools, and this is really quite good. Perhaps you can now tell them, that they are your pawns and help your readership totals.

OH WELL,

GOOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSSS

kral

March 15th, 2011
8:01 pm

woe..right with you…also used to listen to the radio show….go Billl you made to the mb..js..level of house wives of the ajc…????? that is a mb cop out…use periods and stand by some opinion

kral

March 15th, 2011
8:16 pm

cammy smmayee..i sure wish you were still here we could have some fun

Pago Pago DAWG

March 15th, 2011
8:19 pm

What he did is pretty bad compared to that guy up at ohio state.

kral

March 15th, 2011
8:24 pm

i agree pago…much to do about nothing

Dawg48

March 15th, 2011
8:37 pm

Does the ajc not have any thing better to do than try to get coaches in the hot seat or fired? It does not matter if it’s tech or Georgia? Every time I look at the ajc it’s like going back to high school to here a bunch of he said she said bull crap! Find a real story and cover it and for once maybe print the truth your selves! You try to drag any coach in the state of Georgia threw the mud, you might want to check your selves.

showmedog

March 15th, 2011
8:44 pm

Stupid coach! When is it enough to fire him? UGA deserves a competent coach.

Dawg48

March 15th, 2011
8:49 pm

Someone from the ajc may want to investigate this we need another good story fresh news out of Athens the track and field team needed new shoe laces coach went to dollar general to replace them we need a new coach get on it mark bradley

TopDawg

March 15th, 2011
9:05 pm

We know the rules so well that we continuously toe the line. We commit numerous secondary rules that gives us HUGE recruiting advantages and yet avoid crossing into major territory. We are the Lance Armstrong of NCAA football. We cheat but just try and prove we committed major violations…Nope. Our needles are disposed of without notice.

cammy cam cam

March 15th, 2011
9:30 pm

so the lesson here, Gawga fans believe the rules they break shouldn’t have been rules and therefore they don’t apply to gawga but they should apply to everyone else, judgement shall be based on relevance to others, the seriousness of the charges made by gawga fans outweighs all the overwhelming evidence to the contrary (me), thuga despite admittung to two violations in the recruitment of their two highest profile players is still as clean and pure as the wind driven snow, ajc shall be a homer paper and never speak ill of gawga and no matter how bad thuga is they’re going to win it all.

Ramblin Man

March 15th, 2011
9:32 pm

These secondary violations are a gate way drug for Richt. Next thing you know he will be under the bleachers trying to score a LB with cleats. Then we all now what that leads to whispering sweet nothings to a WR while handing over a helmet. These things happen all over the country and I give credit to Richt and company for telling on themselves. Now as a GT fan I believe this is all a cover up to make people look right while the real violations are too the left.

MikeP

March 15th, 2011
9:35 pm

SouthGA Dawg
March 15th, 2011
5:56 pm
TimBo Dawg,
“AU gets the talent from GA because they pay 180k for it!!!’
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So, Auburn recruited Ray Drew real hard and Auburn is much closer to Drew’s home than UGA is. According to you Auburn pays $180,000 for top talent. (That’s actually 200,000, 10% goes to the player’s agent)
Answer me this: Did UGA have to top Auburn’s offer or just match it? Now don’t give me the song and dance about Drew turned down $200,000 just to go to dear ol’ gawga! Did you Dawgs have to match Auburn’s offer or did you have to top it? Inquiring minds want to know!

cammy cam cam

March 15th, 2011
9:37 pm

just imagine, had we had room for crowell and not committed to another rb, what it’d been like to bring him to Auburn, have him visit the offices and then on the way out… hey, there’s the offense, the defending national champions, and look, cam newton, the heisman trophy winner. but no running back? wow, here kid, take this jersey with your favorite number and name on thr back and go run a few plays with the undefeated national champs… hey, while youre standing in the end zone, would you like to hoist the Heisman trophy? What about the BCS trophy? Nice huh. I tell you what, if you promise to sign with us I’ll have Bo Jackson come stand next to you on that podium because kid, you could be our third heisman winner. What do you say?

Truth is, if that was not a violation i doubt auburn wouldve wasted those theatrics on crowell. no offense.

Rosezeee

March 15th, 2011
10:16 pm

Guess Richt did it the “Georgia Way.”

BT

March 15th, 2011
10:18 pm

Bill, what would you and your colleagues be saying if we didn’t land Crowell or Drew? You’d probably be saying that Richt and the program were on a “Slippery Slope” because we could not pick-up the coveted in-state talent known as the “Dream Team”.

Give me a break! We understand this is the time of year when stories are hard to come by but according to you, Richt can’t do anything right!

trupert

March 15th, 2011
10:20 pm

Richt did what he needed to do to get a prized recruit.
When you look at Richts secondary violations and compare them to what’s happening at Auburn with the sanctioned dirty play and pay for play and Alabama with the constant oversigning of players and talking underperforming players into medical scholarships at a record pace not to mention SC, old Miss and LSU it amounts to nothing.

Richt is the class of the SEC and not many in all of CFB can be compaired when it comes to integrity and honesty.

college football

March 15th, 2011
10:49 pm

Mark Richt has more integrity in his little toe than all of you sports writing bums put together! By the way, whats the story with the PEN, I mean the Auburn Correctional Facility? Now thats news.

aladawg

March 15th, 2011
11:30 pm

Hey AlabamaDawg this is aladawg, it’s great to see another Alabama man pulling for the dawgs.

MikeP

March 15th, 2011
11:32 pm

Quote: “Richt did what he needed to do to get a prized recruit.” ~~~Yep, desperate times require desperate measures according to Richt. Now, he knows he’s recruited this well every year for the past several and still put a 6-7 team on the field, but he got the dawgs off his back temporairliy by signing somebody they think will turn things around.

Clue: If Ealey, King and co. can’t get it done, adding Crowell won’t make any difference.

hind tit

March 15th, 2011
11:51 pm

If you knew you were going to play for a certain team since you were a kid why put the team through all this garbage. Why not go ahead and commit instead of all this drama.

RED DOG 77

March 16th, 2011
12:37 am

@Bill King……..Pole vaulting over a mole turd, eh…..big boy?………Bill, you claim to be a Bulldog, yet you dare speak Lane Kiffen and Mark Richt in the same breath?……..Bill King, you are without question the most pathetic “journalist” I have ever read……..even worse than that racist black dude that used to write for the AJC………….Bill King, you sir, are no Bulldog…….nosiree, you are not!!!!!!!

UGA FRIEND

March 16th, 2011
4:46 am

I hope Crowell lives up to the expectations of CMR and all the UGA fans. CMR has his own way of doing business so I will not comment as to his crossing the line or not. I would just call what he did as being somewhat dramatic.
As for Crowell, he has had so much attention that he needs the largest helment and cap available.

RMikel58

March 16th, 2011
5:06 am

I bet when Richt announced the “Violation” to the NCAA they said “yeah o.k. guy’s, violate yourself and dont make anymore calls to recruits for a month ” cause we’re too busy picking the final four and making travel plans. “Besides we’re not really sure theres a violation but if you say so”.
“Just send us $5,000.00 for the fine and we’ll forget the whole thing”. Our society has become so “Politically Right” that you cant even sneeze around a recruit without breaking some NCAA Rule, it’s almost like theyve become a Collection Agency making sure they make their Quota and picking and choosing who the next victim will be.
Wish there was a way to check the salaries of the Board Members of the NCAA and their College Affiliations. Bet some of them went to Auburn and Ohio State.

RMikel58

March 16th, 2011
5:18 am

Too many Rules and Violations in the NCAA. The more Rules and Violations there are, the more potential they have of getting MONEY from schools.
Bet they could just get rid of 75% of all that junk and the other 25% would be all that matters. To me it should be basic stuff like giving money to athletes or family members. You know, severe stuff.
The one thing i’d wish they’d do is not let athletes leave early from school. The statement their sending is that Education is only secondary to money and they shouldnt be able to enter the draft and for go their Senior Year or atleast if they didnt graduate they would have to wait a year to enter.
Our Government says Education for our kids are the most important thing and the school Faculty announces that Education is most important but yet here they are allowing them to leave early.
Seriously what is this telling our kids about sports?

Hobnail Boot

March 16th, 2011
6:55 am

Witch hunt… I went with my son on a visit and the team he was visiting had his locker complete. I mean Jersey, helment, shoes etc. This is no big deal they all do it.

Red-N-Black

March 16th, 2011
8:48 am

MY last post didn’t show up guess what NO PROFANITY. This site is such a waste of time. Goodbye

Auburn is All in jail

March 16th, 2011
9:00 am

MikeP,

Auburn does not play around when threatened with not winning the Fulmer Cup to go along with the tainted BCS trophy.

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/

LAKE OCONEE DAWG

March 16th, 2011
9:06 am

SLIPPERY SLOPE:
WHAT A JOKE….DO AWAY WITH THE NCAA, THE SEC OFFICE IS NO BETTER….THEY JUMP ON TRIVIAL THINGS LIKE THIS LINING UP IN A FORMATION DEAL, BUT WHEN 2OO LARGE HAVE BEEN SAID TO CHANGE HANDS, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE A RULING THAT WE CAN’T HOLD JR RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMETHING SR DID IF JR DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT…., THAT MAY BE AN ALL-TIMER AS FAR AS BAILING SOMEONE OUT WHO ADMITTED TRYING TO EXTORT MONEY FROM AN SEC TEAM THAT HIS SON WAS INTERESTED IN PLAYING FOOTBALL FOR….AND TO SAY THAT JR KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE SHAKEDOWN OF THE MISS. STATE PROGRAM, WELL, NOBODY BELIEVES THAT EXCEPT THE TRUEST AUBURN FAN….

LAKE OCONEE DAWG

March 16th, 2011
9:12 am

MikeP:
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT GET THAT MUCH MONEY ARE QB’S…WHO ACTUALLY DECIDE GAMES….DEFENSIVE ENDS ARE A DIME A DOZEN….200K FOR A DE??? AND REALY ONLY QB’S WHO HAVE A SHAKEDOWN ARTIST AS A DAD…..

Alphare

March 16th, 2011
9:18 am

Is Richt only a slippery slope for 2ndary violations?

What about gaving $200K to Crowell’s friend, what about asking players to stump in the end zone in the FL game?

LAKE OCONEE DAWG

March 16th, 2011
9:26 am

COME ON BILL, EITHER BACK THE DAWGS AND THAT INCLUDES THE COACHING STAFF OR FIND YOU SOMETHING ELSE TO DO….WONDER IF SABAN OR AUBURN OR ANY SEC SCHOOL CALLS THE SEC OFFICE EVERY TIME THEY RECRUIT A KID….HAVEN’T HEARD MUCH OUT OF THE SEC OFFICE OR NCAA OFFICE ON THE CAM NEWTON/DADDY NEWTON I DIDN’T TELL MY SON WHAT I WAS DOING SAGA…..GUESS THEY ARE STILL INVESTIGATING, AND THEY ARE IN NO HURRY TO GET IT DONE….

dawg gone

March 16th, 2011
9:28 am

Alphare how many more years are you going to cry about the end zone dance? And 200K to Crowell’s friend ?? You take Troll to a new level…

Alphare

March 16th, 2011
9:38 am

dawg gone,

When Auburn gave a $180 scholly to Cecil, you guys cried like babies. Now Richt gave $200K to Crowell’s friend, and you think it’s nothing? Let’s see if you can win a NC like Auburn did with that $200K.

Snake Doc

March 16th, 2011
9:46 am

So, the Saint ain’t a so much of a saint… So much for morals, responsibility and discipline…. Excuses are for losers and the CEO and his sycophants are reaching for the bottom of the barrel…..

What an embarrassment!

dawg gone

March 16th, 2011
9:51 am

Alphare what in the world are you taking about? Do you even know? If there was a WIFF of a pay for play deal with UGA you think we would have heard about since we dreg up any BS having anything to do with UGA and news flash troll…we know the 180k story is true Cecil said so now either give us some facts or troll on off into traffic…

Alphare

March 16th, 2011
10:09 am

dawg gone

What’s the difference between Auburn giving $180K to Cecil and UGA giving $200K to Crowell’s? Of course UGA gives $20K more, but Cecil has an age disadvantage.

Football-wise, both are non-factor, neither is recruited by anybody else.

PMC

March 16th, 2011
10:12 am

At this point, it’s more honorable to break NCAA rules than it is to comply.

Remarkable

March 16th, 2011
10:20 am

Bill, you’ll never read this but get a clue about NCAA violations. It’s just a joke.

1eyedJack

March 16th, 2011
10:41 am

Lot’s of knuckle-draggers on this morning. Stand up straight Techies!

dawgster

March 16th, 2011
11:11 am

@Alphare…I think that of all the posts or comments I have ever read on here, your’s might just be the most absurd. I’m trying for the life of me to see how you get to Coach Richt actually giving a recruit $200K from having a secondary violation, if you want to call it that. I have to believe you really don’t believe anything you comment on.. Surely you have better stuff than that..Try posting some comments with any validity and you might actually get a little respece from others on here. Of course for you, you can just sit behind your computer, spout off anything whether true or not without having to substantiate anything. So have fun and just understand that no one on here is going to take anything you say seriously. I just spent too much of my time addressing you. I won’t address your comments any further so give me your best shot, but I won’t respond, hopefully others will do the same.

Fine Christian Man

March 16th, 2011
11:52 am

UGA sits upon their high throne of class and morals and straight and narrow Christian coach. The second a similar thing happens at another school, they are so quick to call names and look down their nose and act as if something of this caliber would NEVER happen at their fine institution. When it does happen, now all the sudden the NCAA is the big bad wolf coming to blow their house down and to pick on them.

The fact of the matter is, UGA is like the rest of the SEC. They will fudge the rules any chance they can to land what they want. There is no principal or moral in that. UGA is paddling as fast as they can just to stay afloat, and it’s hilarious.

I can tell you this, the last time Tech had a scandal, the AD was sent packing, immediately. We don’t have secondary violations year after year. It doesn’t happen, PERIOD. If it hurts you so be it. Isn’t that was standards and principals and morals are? Doing the right thing even if not doing so causes you to miss out? I mean UGA fans are hilarious. They want to have their cake and eat it too, and when they can’t, blame someone else.

I’m sure the next response from some idiotic UGA fan is going to be about the lack of principal in hypocricy, even though they have no idea what that word means. Look it up and then apply what you just read and you might, just might, get it. Or they will bring up a player from a decade ago, or 2 players in recent years whose cases were dropped. You have NOTHING on us in the moral regard. If my coach is arrogant, so be it. But he isn’t deliberately breaking rules and then justifying them by saying it’s a dumb rule or it’s just a little overreach or pretending like he doesn’t know. He has staff that is paid to know and that is not an excuse. HILARIOUS!

Alphare

March 16th, 2011
11:53 am

dawgster, you are a UGA homer, who cares you respond or not. But this is what I know:

In order to get Crowell: UGA will pay Crowel’s friend $200K.

In order to get Newton: Cecil solicited $180K (not sure he actually got anything).

Both are facts. But for a UGA homer like you, Cecil’s solicitation is all sin, while UGA pays a bribe is totally holy. What a surprise!

DAWGMAN

March 16th, 2011
12:00 pm

You got to tread that slippery slope. You have to KNOW when you are on it. If you must gamble, you must know what the stakes are. You lose, and the alumni & fans & the entire remainder of the Team get to pick up the tab for years of disappointment. For the salary coach richt receives, I expect him to KNOW. He is playing with our chips. As I have mentioned, he has no credit with me, and I have lost faith in him. I thought the UF end zone gimmick was tacky. I thought the blackout gimmick was tacky. I would like to see less of this stuff. Maybe I am too ‘old school’. I do not like our coach to fawn all over these young men. I want these parents to see a disciplined, hospitable, very well coached SEC Football program where the young man can expect to have to outperform his position team mates if he expects to play. I want the recruit to be dead sure it ain’t going to be easy. He has to man up for himself and the rest of the team. I want him to know that if he screws up on or off the field there are serious consequences. Fair and balanced. It’s all about the TEAM. I want these young men to be challenged, not ‘forgiven’. Unless we get to that kind of program, the dream team recruits will not get to the mountain top. They will learn to be satisfied with less than the best from themselves, their team mates, and their head coach. We cannot get to the mountain top with coach richt.

Alphare

March 16th, 2011
12:16 pm

dawgster,

do you really think Crowell’s friend would be a UGA football player if he is not Crowell’s friend? Really?

If you do, good for you to have Crowell’s friend on your team.

If you don’t, you should know UGA was bribing.

John Rogers

March 16th, 2011
1:29 pm

Wow. It’s tough to find something to write about this time of year. Maybe you focus on the diamond dawgs or the importance of the hoop dawgs making it back to the dance. Or maybe the Blawg could take five til Spring Ball comes back. Pretty insignificant.

budd

March 16th, 2011
1:43 pm

Oh wow, Lane Kiffin is the devil but when St. Mark does the same stuff its OK. Sounds like typical doggie out of both sides of your mouth. Richt is a cheater cause he can’t coach.

Ed (The Original)

March 16th, 2011
1:54 pm

Richt’s probably a nice man (I say probably because we only know his public image). But he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Richt proved that he can win championships when Florida, Tennessee, Auburn and Alabama are in down cycles, but when those teams are up he quickly gets exposed as mediocre.

It’s nothing personal, just what I’ve deserved. Georgia was better than Florida in ‘02 – ‘05, but lost 3 of 4 anyway. When Meyer had Florida performing at a high level in ‘06, ‘08 and ‘09, they beat us easily. Once Saban got through his first year at Alabama, his team routed Georgia. Ditto for Chizik and Auburn. Tennessee is still down but for whatever reason we can’t play them competitively in Knoxville anymore. ‘07 and ‘09 were embarrassing performances against bad Tennessee teams.

Georgia can do better, 10 years of Richt is enough.

dawg gone

March 16th, 2011
2:38 pm

Alphare you know we hear from all the haters that the “Dream Team” will be a bust because no one can tell how a player will make the transition from H.S to college ball. And to a point that is a valid point ..but that works both ways Cootie just might be the second coming of David Pollack for all we know…so stick 200,000 firecrackers in your pie hole a light’em up…what we do know is that your a troll. The idea that there is a not a huge difference between offering a legit scholarship to a legit football player, and a father shopping his son to the highest bidder is well typical of your thought process…so please go sit in the corner and quietly stew in your own bile please…that’s a nice boy.

Auburn is All in jail

March 16th, 2011
2:55 pm

Alphare is too stupid to realize that the kid got a scholarship.

$200,000

Last I checked, out of state tuition was $34,000 a year.
The kid was from Georgia so it is in state.

More like $80,000 for the 4 years.

Cammie still got $100,000 more.

Gonna need it too and more to get his buddies out of jail

AUBURN=2011 FULMER CUP CHAMPIONS

Bill Sutton

March 16th, 2011
3:41 pm

we criticize him for not being competitive enough and too much of a nice guy to win and then we criticize him for getting aggressive to get the talent he needs to win. Got to make up your mind. do you want to win or do you want to always be second tier. Do you thing Sabin, Meyer, etc., don’t get as close to the line as they can. Atleast when Richt does it he admits it was him and not someone else.

Jim

March 16th, 2011
4:06 pm

This is the one of the crucial problems with Coach Richt since he has been at UGA he does not pay attention to the little details. Whether it be in recruiting or in play calling or decisions on and off the field Coach has demostrated that he id either uninformed or not to bright (you be the judge). Ethics is NEVER NEVER for sale nor should be set aside it truly speaks to character and guess what UGA has had a lot, character issues with players. Just saying if Coach wants that eagle feather in his cap (the crystal trophy) he had better pay attention to detail and never put his ethics up for discussion. I like Coach and really wish he would pay attention to things. Everyone in the media says run the football with our stable but what does Bobo do what ever QB wants to do pass. Don’t recurit he Moreno’s and Crowells if you are not going to commit to run 1st and pass 2nd, which by the way will beat everyone in the SEC and country. You have tried passing for several years why not try running and beating the heck out of people and set the pass up for success not failure. Even a Cox would have succeeded in the run oriented offense.

MobileDawg

March 16th, 2011
5:50 pm

Much ado about nothing. Just more Dawg hate from the AJC. Quit buying and supporting this crap rag , has-been newspaper.They won’t be happy til we all suck like the Techies.

Love my Dawgs

March 16th, 2011
6:21 pm

1) As Altamaha Dawg pointed out (as usual), this was not an NCAA deal. This was a Mike Slive deal. Sometimes I wonder if he, I and a few others are the only ones with reading/comprehension skills.

2) For the jack holes who are throwing around the word “intentional”, give me a break. You are the same people (other fans) who come on here day after day to spew your little hatred. You really look like fools.

3) #2’s, who are also saying this is the most well known violation, need to take another look at the facts of this POSSIBLE violation. You see, the rule states clearly that this kind of action can not be done in the stadium, it doesn’t reference the practice facility. So…..CMR not knowing is not an instance of irresponsibilty, deceit or whatever you yayhoos want to throw at it. Does this help?

4) No! CMR is not on a slippery slope. These last few self-reported, POSSIBLE secondary violations have all been out in the open. He, nor his staff, has tried to do slimy things. Also, remember who is the person saying these are violations….Mike Slive. Do all of you only like him when he’s proving his hatred for UGA or do you like him always? I personally think he’s a slime ball. Not only to UGA, but to several other schools. He really should go away.

5) Ed (The Original), regarding your last post, wouldn’t your logic ring true for the opposite? I will let you think on that one a few minutes. Ok, times up. According to your theory, UGA only does well when your mentioned other schools are having down years. Hmmmm. So logically, each of those other schools would also benefit from each other & UGA having down years. Which in CMR’s tenure, is technically only 1 season. The 2009 season wasn’t great, but it was still a winner & he has a great record as the head coach. Basically, your theory is silly.

6)”Nick Fairley”……really? Did I read one of your posts correctly or do you not know how to write properly? Since you’re an AU fan (I won’t even guess grad), I would go with the latter. But, by your statement, Gene Chizik wrote a complaint to the SEC regarding Pollack & Godfrey attending Ray Drew’s announcement? Wow, did Gism self report himself for clearly breaking the rules by being there or did you really not think through your lie? Just curious.

To end, I will address Bill’s question. The answer is NO! I would not give a rat’s hiney who gave who a jersey, lined up in formation or gave someone a hat. I believe in rules, and as much as I and everyone else believe the NCAA is full of poop, I will respect their idiotic rules. In this case, the Pollack/Godfrey case and the accidental phone call, I believe they are all just silly and were not done to be dirty or malicious. I would defend any coach in this situation. I don’t hate others so badly that I don’t see things with perspective.

For you so-called Dawg fans who are bashing, I don’t believe you are really Dawg fans. If you are, well honestly, you really aren’t.

Alabama Mike I believe it was, you questioned about how to get the perspectives of OSU fans regarding their true violations. Here’s my advice, while you’re on your magic computer box on this site (which is a Dawg site), why not open another tab and go to an OSU fan site? Now there’s an idea.

Have a fine day!

GO DAWGS! Beat the Huskies! One more little rant regarding the Huskies….why would they have us believe they are the “original Dawgs” as many of them have said? I have strange family members who went to the Dub and not a one buys this load of poo. Seriously, why would people in one of the most northern areas of the contigent United States begin the use of a southern slang term? I have nothing against UW, but these idiots who were on here the other night really seemed like true fans. Um, not really!

Go Dawgs!

Steve Fennell

March 16th, 2011
6:22 pm

What the Hell Bill? You have been after Richt all year. I’ll admit we have had a couple of rough years but can’t anyone remember the miserable years we had before we got Dooley and Richt? I suffered through some pretty rough games beck in the 60’s and 70’s and Coach Richt has been a blessing compared to those times. Go ahead and run him off and see what you get for a replacement.

Love my Dawgs

March 16th, 2011
6:38 pm

Amen Steve! He’s a blessing compared to others.

Dawg89

March 16th, 2011
6:45 pm

Who says Nick Satan didn’t hand Crowell a Tide Jersey?

Collegiate Clown

March 16th, 2011
7:03 pm

NoMoBobo. thats good. wish i’d thought of that one. I wish someone in the SEC or the NCAA would get together and rewrite those laws or rules. It all seems so stupid. I know they have to have some rules to go by but some are so goofy.

Ray Goof

March 16th, 2011
7:23 pm

It’s kind of sad to see all the Dawg fans getting so excited this year (just like the year before, the year before that, etc.). How long is it going to take for UGA fans to realize that UGA is simply no longer relevant in the SEC? In the national picture, UGA isn’t even a blip on the radar, and hasn’t been since the preseason #1 ranking two years ago.

Sit back and be grateful for the six or seven wins you’ll get every year. Coaching genius Mark Richt may take you to 8-4 or even 9-3 occasionally, but Florida or Alabama or LSU or Auburn will still win the SEC, meaning no BCS bowls and no top 10 final ranking. Most years, UGA will be very lucky to finish in the top 25, and only after a big bowl win over a nobody opponent.

It’s a different world now, and Dawg fans need to adjust their expectations downward to reflect reality.

Unfortunately nothing is going to change until UGA changes its mediocre coaching. That’s where the difference is, and that’s why everyone outside Dawgtard Nation just laughs at Dawg fans getting so excited year after year about what a great recruiting class UGA gets. It doesn’t matter how many blue chip high school players go to UGA, they simply don’t get the coaching they would get at Florida or Alabama, to name two schools whose programs are far ahead of UGA. And that’s not going to change as long as Mark Richt is in Athens.

Get your heads out of the sand and face reality. And mediocrity and irrelevance.

Joe

March 16th, 2011
7:23 pm

What a joke NCAA. Le’t see, if you can check the broom closet so you don’t have to look into the real violations. And King. check your bark, it sounds like a whine to me…

Love my Dawgs

March 16th, 2011
7:32 pm

Ray Goof, what’s it like copying & pasting the same bunk every couple of days?

Alphare, I forgot to address you earlier. I must say that you have now become one of the king morons on this site. Stop & think for a second. You come on a UGA dedicated blog, then refer to all the fans as UGA homers. How long did it take you to figure that out? Sadly, it probably took years! I wish Bill would do a poll and let us vote on the biggest morons. That would be fun!

Oh wait, I have to make my donation to Crowell’s “friend”. I don’t know whether to laugh at you or feel sorry for you. For now, I will laugh & feel sorry for anyone who has contact with you.

savannadawg

March 16th, 2011
7:42 pm

Well, if people could learn to keep their mouth shut. I personally think the NCAA is a wayward and rudderless ship in the night. It “the NCAA” in my opinion has become a joke. When a coach cannot sell his program too these kids how does one expect to atracht them. Specially todays kids. My goodness. I am totaly at a loss for words. And I really need to get this off my chest and I just pray that someone important enough to do something about it will stand up! Mike Slive needs to be handed his walking papers right along with the NCAA. This goes back to A.J. Since when can a student athelete “Marcel Darius” attend a party in Miami Fla. ALL EXPENSES PAID by an NFL FOOTBALL agent and get less time in the pokie than a guy who sold his jersey to some maybe agent chogghi boy? Someone PLEASE explain this too me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

savannadawg

March 16th, 2011
7:47 pm

Ooohps, didn’t finish. Mike Slive thats how. I believe the guy has too many UA contacts, and therefore should not be the Commisioner of the SEC. The SEC needs to go hire a guy who is strait up yet can still be politically savy, without getting his ass stuck on the indecission button.

Tell Burke

March 16th, 2011
8:00 pm

I can’t wrap my mind around this type of witch hunt. There’s an egg sucking hammerknocker behind all this trivial B.S.

Morgan

March 16th, 2011
8:56 pm

What about the ELEPHANT in the room?? …Auburn and Cam Newton’s Dad, and ALL THAT MONEY! Give me a friggen break! The NCAA is senseless, arbitrary, and inane! Period!

Brucerugby79

March 16th, 2011
10:33 pm

just to set the record straight-we are all sinners-there are none righteous no not one- I am proud our coach is on the record as a Christian-i love UGA football but in the end all this is just a wisp-gone-lets enjoy football but i call on all ya’ll to get right on something more important

DC DAwg

March 16th, 2011
10:59 pm

break all the rules! The NCAA basically only holds players responsible for their actions, not coaches, adminstrators, parents, etc. and there is enough presenance to argue that!

NinetogoDawg

March 16th, 2011
11:36 pm

This headline makes me think I am reading the AJC Sports section. Bill, I hope you are not trying to keep up with Schultz or Bradley.

Big Dawg Daddy

March 17th, 2011
8:08 am

Lane Kiffin and Mark Richt should never be mentioned in the same story. Kiffin is a 1st rate scumbag.

MikeP

March 17th, 2011
9:21 am

Morgan
March 16th, 2011
8:56 pm
“What about the ELEPHANT in the room?? …Auburn and Cam Newton’s Dad, and ALL THAT MONEY! Give me a friggen break! The NCAA is senseless, arbitrary, and inane! Period!”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What money? There was no money, only talk of money between ex Mississippi State player Kenny Rogers and Cecil Newton. You guys are truly earning the name “DullDawgs”. You keep ignoring the facts in the case and whining because you took a 49-31 beatdown. Grow up.

Snoop Dawg

March 17th, 2011
9:45 am

Richt da Preacha Man’s not necessarily on a slippery slope, but this stupid incident is just another indicator that he is a slippery character.

I am a retired 30 year Army officer. I’d like to think that I know just a little bit about leadership. I would like to ask you: How do you think Caleb King, Waushaun Ealey, and the rest of the UGA running backs and even the rest of the team feels when the head coach directs that they get in a “missing man” formation, with the missing man being the position you have been filling to date? Is it any wonder why King and Ealey aren’t focused and act the way they do? Do you think that this builds team spirit and camraderie? Well, it certainly does not. It is counterproductive. Richt does this stupid stuff on a semi-regular basis. The gimmicks–blackouts, intentional celebration penalties, etc. only take away from team confidence in the long run. That is why we will not beat Florida or Alabama again for a long time, as long as Richt remains the coach. So you diehard Richt defenders, but keeping this imposter at the helm at $3M per year, are trading off a winning UGA program for your “religious” man.

Poppy

March 17th, 2011
9:52 am

Didn’t have time to read all comments, but does anyone know of a database that lists all the violations of all the major schools. It would be interesting to see a comparison with other schools. I know there has to be some rules, but some seem very unnecessary. Lust wondering how all the schools compare.

Poppy

March 17th, 2011
9:54 am

Should say Just wondering!

UGAG is gitting the ncaa death penalty, he he ha ha

March 17th, 2011
10:26 am

More lying, cheating, and stealing out of Athens…..give em the death penalty, it is the only thing those clowns understand!

dawg85

March 20th, 2011
3:36 pm

This is asinine. Snoop Dog is silly.

Shelley

March 20th, 2011
8:26 pm

“So you diehard Richt defenders, but keeping this imposter at the helm at $3M per year, are trading off a winning UGA program for your “religious” man.”

Amen, you said it.

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