File the latest Ohio State absurdity under Believe It Or Not!

Jim Tressel apparently outranks Ohio State University's president. (Associated Press)

Jim Tressel apparently outranks Ohio State University's president. (Associated Press)

I’m sure I wasn’t the only colllege football fan left slack-jawed while reading about the latest scandal involving future UGA opponent Ohio State.

And I’m not talking about Jim Tressel being suspended for a measly two games and fined $250,000 by his school after it came out he’d conducted a massive cover-up last season of NCAA violations by five of his players — the same five Tressel lobbied the NCAA not to suspend until this season so he’d finally have a chance to get a win over an SEC team in a bowl game.

And my amazement wasn’t even due to the incredible disparity between the protracted, kid-gloves handling of the OSU investigation compared with the speedy hammering of A.J. Green by the NCAA for a similar infraction as committed by the Buckeye players, resulting in Mark Richt having to open a season without his main offensive threat while Tressel got to arrange his team’s sanction so that it did the least harm. Life is unfair, as Jimmy Carter once said, but we already knew that.

No, what gobsmacked me this morning while reading about Tresselgate was the reply of E. Gordon Gee, president of the Ohio State University, when asked if he ever considered firing Tressel for what he’d done.

“No, are you kidding me?” Gee answered. “Let me be very clear. I’m just hoping the coach doesn’t dismiss me.”

Wow. I’m no Michael Adams booster, but I can’t even begin to imagine UGA’s president ever uttering such a spineless comment.

Meanwhile, the NCAA, which hasn’t exactly covered itself in glory as college football’s watchdog this past year, has a perfect example of its dreaded “lack of institutional control” sitting right out in the open in Columbus, Ohio, but they apparently can’t see it for the sweater-vest.

What a joke.

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229 comments Add your comment

RxDawg

March 9th, 2011
11:12 am

Wow. Surely his comment was making light of the situation.

ScoutDawg

March 9th, 2011
11:13 am

DawginLex

March 9th, 2011
11:13 am

Tressel’s transgressions pale in comparison to Bruce Pearl.

EDawg71

March 9th, 2011
11:13 am

Good call Bill.

RxDawg

March 9th, 2011
11:16 am

It seems like the NCAA has no problem throwing their weight around with a player. But when it’s a program,coach, or other higher up that actualy get’s a paycheck from football the NCAA seems to lose their balls. They have simply out done themselves with the rules. Time to simplify and start from scratch. Form an elite league if you must because it’s just a fact that some programs have more resources then others.

JaxDawg05

March 9th, 2011
11:18 am

THE NCAA better hammer THE Ohio State!

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 9th, 2011
11:21 am

Where is BUCKEYE?? He should be proud of OSU’s new fame. Ohio is going the way of GT. Pure and simple hypocrisy. HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

Cobb Dawg

March 9th, 2011
11:22 am

Expect OSU to take a lot of battering over this one. But the power structure in college football is no mystery to anyone who’s been paying attention the last 30 years or so. Not much of a surprise here, frankly.

Nottingham

March 9th, 2011
11:23 am

Georgia went 5-4 WITH AJ Green, stop using that as Richt’s excuse of the year.

Richt wins less games than the year before 7 out of 8 last 8 seasons, nothing to do with AJ Green’s suspension.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 9th, 2011
11:23 am

Well I guess the North is as dirty as the South, though Ohio still feels privilege and thus immune from criticism and punishment.

Nottingham

March 9th, 2011
11:24 am

Rihct leads the NCAA in arrests, so keep your eyes on Richt for the future.

Beast from the East

March 9th, 2011
11:24 am

Bill, even this Gator fan can appreciate this blog. Pretty funny!

11Dawg

March 9th, 2011
11:25 am

Doesn’t “lack of institutional control” generally coincide with the words “NCAA probation”? But that’s just dreaming since it is, after all, Ohio State.

red&black

March 9th, 2011
11:25 am

This just continues to show that there are institutions in the ncaa that are above the law. Ohio state, notre dame, usc. If these things happened at an sec school they would be lucky to survive.

Michael G.

March 9th, 2011
11:26 am

Be very careful in taking glee at another school’s missteps. It no longer surprises me when ANY school gets into trouble with rules violations.

SouthGA Dawg

March 9th, 2011
11:27 am

The NCAA is a joke. Look at the thugs at Tenn. in a bar brawl and putting a police officer in intensive care. Scam Newton, oh everyone knows he is inocent.They are a disgrace to college football and should all be fired. The coach for Ohio State was protecting his team and I dont think it was a bad thing. AJ sold his jersey and was burned at the cross.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 9th, 2011
11:27 am

OHIO can do whatever they like because Money and ESPN loves them. ESPN does not cover this issue in their news as much as they should. That is the hypocrisy of ESPN and NCAA (that includes BIG 10 or 12 whatever they are).

10 - 6

March 9th, 2011
11:28 am

Losing to mickey mouse U in a bowl games is absurd. Believe it or not !

JDawg1785

March 9th, 2011
11:29 am

Funny stuff! I’m sure the mighty Buckeyes will miss Tressel is their struggles with national powerhouses Akron and Toledo this season.

Sam

March 9th, 2011
11:31 am

The inconsistency from the NCAA is really astonishing–I guess it should not be, but the recent rash of sanctions (or lack thereof) is really highlighting it right now.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 9th, 2011
11:32 am

Micheal G., I have been reading a lot of Blogs and I do not think any body is happy about this issue. I see a lot of anger, disappointment and frustration on the way the Powers are distributing their punishment and the hypocrisy of these.

Biggdawg33

March 9th, 2011
11:33 am

Dez Bryant lies to the NCAA about his dinner with Deion Sanders. Punishment: 10 games

Jim Tressell lies to the NCAA about his kiddies selling their stuff. Punishment: ?????

This is going to go far in my view (which some people may not care) of the NCAA. If he does not get a stiffer penalty from the NCAA than the 2 games, the NCAA should be dissolved.

Doc Holliday

March 9th, 2011
11:35 am

My hypocrisy only goes so far…

The NCAA beats me.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 9th, 2011
11:37 am

@ Michael G., I read a Gator fan’s comments. What do you expect from that group???? They are retards.

Fulmer Cup Champions

March 9th, 2011
11:37 am

We have no room and no business to cast stones !

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 9th, 2011
11:39 am

Nottingham sounds like GT or Buckeye.

Damon Evans

March 9th, 2011
11:39 am

Jim Tressell is “Good People “. Red panties and red sweater vests are all good !

BullDawgMike

March 9th, 2011
11:40 am

I called it right on the money. I said OSU , as well as Tressel, would get off with a slap on the wrist. They have too much power in the world of college football. I sure wish they played in the SEC though…LOL

War lord

March 9th, 2011
11:42 am

The suspension and fine were imposed by tOSU, not the NCAA. The NCAA investigation is just now beginning. I fully expect there will be more coming down the pike. I really doubt even the proctologists at the NCAA will let it slide with the boys who sold the gold pants getting 5 games off, but the coach who concealed actual knowledge of the incident from BOTH tOSU and the NCAA only 2 games.

Look for him to get at least 3 more on the ground, maybe more. tOSU will also take an institutional hit once the NCAA’s investigation is done, for any number of counts – lack of institutional control, failure to promote an atmosphere of compliance.

This has only just begun.

sidelinecall

March 9th, 2011
11:44 am

You want to know why the real battle is off field in college sports? TV rules, not the coaches, not school officials, not the fans. TV brings in the revenue and dictates the pace of events. The NCAA is a secondary police effort at best. Jim Tressel’s coaching days were successful and most other Big Ten teams were so-so for many years; with Michigan losing its clout, there was no excitement mustered, ergo, television interest dropped. How do we up that stat? Controversy. Tattoos for memorbilia or signatures?

Oh, please…college sports is now a big, big business for grown men. The students come in a very distant third. And tainted attitudes are contagious. Change the top; give students a stipend and stop pretending we live in an antiseptic environment…. Impossible to kill off all microbes.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 9th, 2011
11:45 am

FULMER CUP CHAMPIONS, you are obviously a Buckeye or a GT fan and a hypocrite equating a bigger institutional problem condoned by OSU President of all people. Let us seen if they have a Board of Regents who have more balls. The only way UGA can be guilty to the same degree as OSU, is if they have kept DAMON despite his red panty issues.

Snotbubble

March 9th, 2011
11:47 am

It’s not WHAT you do, but WHO you are……..NCAA is a big joke and everyone knows it. Except them !!

Dawgs Run This State!

March 9th, 2011
11:49 am

Am I the only one who had tingly spidey-senses when the tatoo-players all said they would come back if Tressel let them play in the bowl game? They were all (including Tressel) actually thinking this could be swept under the rug.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 9th, 2011
11:50 am

President Adams of UGA is looking more and more of a saint as OSUma bin lying case unfolds. However I still expect NCAA and more importantly ESPN to give it’s blessing to a slap in the wrist.

Nottingham

March 9th, 2011
11:51 am

Richt #1 in arrests in NCAA!

CPO Dawg

March 9th, 2011
11:52 am

Wow… No snarky comments from that toolbag Buckeye that comes on here?

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 9th, 2011
11:54 am

oSABAN bin lying = OSUma bin lying = OSAMA bin “landing” = OBAMA bin lying.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 9th, 2011
11:57 am

Nottingham is the #1 HYPOCRITE in this BLOG.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 9th, 2011
11:58 am

Nottingham = BUCKEYE sounds like.

extrapoint

March 9th, 2011
12:01 pm

Enter your comments here

saban

March 9th, 2011
12:10 pm

Should be a good year for the dawgs. 5 victories, Richt opens 4 new tanning salons in Miami, choakdawg eats 4000 doughnuts, and are repeart winners of the Fulmer Cup.

Crowell goes pro after his freshman season. Saying he gave it all for the dawgs after playing in two games and rushing for 150 yards.

Richt starts recruiting for Dream Team II. Blames the 50 point loss to Boise State on the field goal kicker.

Andy

March 9th, 2011
12:12 pm

Personally, I think when a Coach willfully covers up a violation, I think it should be punished more severely than the players who committed the violation. The Coach is supposed to be the example and is supposed to do the right thing. If the Coach doesn’t do the right thing, how can we expect the players to do the same?

Also, delaying the punishment of the 5 players until next year and allowing them to play in the bowl game is shameful. Other teams who have broken rules have had suspensions instituted immediately and did not get an entire off-season to prepare and plan for the suspensions. The NCAA may be trying to play ball with the TV folks, but in the end they are going to alienate fans, lose credibility and damage the game.

extrapoint

March 9th, 2011
12:13 pm

Remember a few years ago when they gave us a courteous #1 ranking to start the season. After a close win over Georgia Southern they dropped us in the rankings. However, Ohio State with a cream puff opening schedule would not suffer this fate whether they won by one or by fifty. They are among
the chosen few that can do know wrong. Being an almost automatic lock to the BCS due to a weak
conference, the University President meant what he said about the coach not firing him. Remember,
we only save the Death Pentaly for the lower revenue schools, so Ohio State should be just fine. But
I like the fact it’s six month before the season so they can have this hang over their heads.

BullDawg Country

March 9th, 2011
12:17 pm

Ohio State has been a joke to the SEC for some time. ESPN or the Big 10 might like them but we know they are soft. They play one or two real games a year sandwiched in betweeen the cupcakes, then bowl time comes and they take their annual beating from the SEC. Pretenders at best!

BullDawg Country

March 9th, 2011
12:19 pm

I noticed Buckeye is not making any comments today. Oh yeah, he’s hiding under his desk!

bucket

March 9th, 2011
12:20 pm

Consider Richt’s actions to realizing he called a recruit by mistake before it was legal to do so – he immediately called the compliance office and they self-reported. Also, Richt held out his best player while the NCAA drug their feet in passing down a suspension. Anyone who thinks that Green not being able to play in the first 4 games didn’t contribute to UGA’s first losing season in awhile are not being fair. The team might have been 3-0 in conference with him, but instead were 0-3 and out of serious contention for anything by the time Green got back. Eventually good guys will be rewarded and bad guys will be punished. Teams like OSU and Auburn were flying high this year and UGA was in the toilet, but the story is not over yet.

dawg39

March 9th, 2011
12:24 pm

You got it right. “what a Joke”. Tressell & his team will suffer no serious repercussions from this. Way to teat everyone equal, NCAAA.

mgdawg

March 9th, 2011
12:30 pm

If the program isn’t put on a probation after this then the NCAA has given up all credibility. Allowing players to play in a bcs bowl when they violated ncaa rules and the suspension was put on hold til next season was a show of money over morals already, if they do not punish the school and the coach more harshly all respect will be gone. Green got four games for a jersey, tressel covered up for 5 players, by my calculations that’s 20 games. I know this won’t happen, but the school being put on probation for two years and a cut of scholarships and the coach being suspended 4-6 games with a bigger fine would be a good place to start. Don’t forget dez bryant got suspended 10 games for having luch with deion.

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Will

March 9th, 2011
12:35 pm

Ha Ha…can never imagine UGA’s president uttering such words? How about your AD courting around 20 somethings??

Dawg Gone

March 9th, 2011
12:42 pm

Well just relax ya’ll this stuff with OSU isn’t a big deal , I mean its not like they were driving with revoked incenses or drinking underage…no major crimes like that NO NO they were merely systematically breaking the rules and then the coaching staff was covering that up…little things like that..

Ted Striker

March 9th, 2011
12:51 pm

Amen, Bill, amen.

What Gordon Gee said is dumber than anything Charlie Sheen has ever said.

Dawg Gone

March 9th, 2011
12:54 pm

Will we fired that A.D and what he was doing had nothing to with UGA. He went Charlie Sheen on his own…troll.

Bill King

March 9th, 2011
1:03 pm

RxDawg:

Yes, I’m sure Gee was attempting to make light of the situation with a joke. Unfortunately, it was not only an inappropriate time to do that and an inappropriate way of doing it, but it also pretty well summed up the way OSU has approached this situation.

jsmooth

March 9th, 2011
1:13 pm

Butteye:

Where are you? You talk a good talk about OSU and supposed, high character program. Oh well, I guess it happens to everyone. Sure is nice when you make the rules and let the NCAA know how you will self-inforce your own punishment. It is tough when the shoe is on the other foot, isn’t it??

anotherdawg

March 9th, 2011
1:18 pm

I’m not surprised with E. Gordon Gee’s remarks. After all, he had the audacity to say that Boise State and TCU were not worthy of their high ranking last year, even if they went undefeated. This coming from the president of a school who typically plays only one or two tough opponents per year, usually losing to one of them, in addition to losing their bowl game. And, they don’t have a conference championship to deal with. I wonder if the various polls will have Ohio State ranked in the top 3 at the beginning of the season like they always do. I know that they will be missing their coach, quarterback, and others, but after all, they did finally beat a SEC team, or they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

VININGSDAWG

March 9th, 2011
1:19 pm

Ohio State is guilty as sin. I work with different athletic departments around the country. I talked with another coach in the Big Ten who said he cannot believe the worship of OSU. He said that Tressel is the slimiest coach in the country.

There are facts is this case that proves OSU is guilty, but it amazes me how BSPN has swept this under the rug and act like it is no big deal. They covered the Cam Newton stuff like Watergate and tried to even make stuff up but have barley touched the OSU mess.

Amazing.

Big Dawg

March 9th, 2011
1:20 pm

My question is will the NCAA step in and make The Ohio State University fire Jim Tressell, will there be conference championship and bowl game restrictions and will there be loss of scholarships? Those are the legitimate questions that need answering. Also will all wins from last year be forfeited? If not then the NCAA should be abolished.

Go Dawgs

schmeckdawg

March 9th, 2011
1:25 pm

For all of those who are looking for Buckeye, he is on the Mark Bradley site. Got get em’ fellas and ladies! Payback is a yatch!!!!!

RxDawg

March 9th, 2011
1:25 pm

I agree Bill. Just more proof of what a mockery the NCAA is.

The Watergirl

March 9th, 2011
1:37 pm

When is finally going to come to a point where the NCAA is broken up and we have a legit form of college athletics!! NCAA dropped the ball when they allowed “The Tat 5″ to lay in the sugar bowl and now they come off looking like even bigger idiots. The only way the NCAA gets out of this w/o looking liking chumps is to drop the hammer on Tressel

1eyedJack

March 9th, 2011
1:45 pm

I think the NCAA should be placed on probation for “lack of institutional control”.

sidelinecall

March 9th, 2011
1:45 pm

What can you expect when the amount of money involved in college sports challenges the national debt?

Or when there is a Las Vegas betting line for big college events and games on par with pro sports.

The point is, if every school was scrutinized, none, IMO, would pass the smell test. So the gamesmanship is suspect. The MSM sportscasters are frothing over the prospect that the OSU story will have enough traction to give them ginned up coverage until the next season begins. That hungry media monster must be fed with new meat; “if it bleeds, it leads.” That is their mantra.

The underlying corruption is allowed to fester unchecked. The universities with their sports programs are large business entities. Bad enough on the pro level; tragic on the undergraduate level. When college coaches make more money than the president of the US, we have a problem in our value system. And I still say the main culprit is television contracts. This is a national dilemma; no conference is exempt.

anotherdawg

March 9th, 2011
1:45 pm

Big Dawg, let me answer those: no, no, no, no, and finally no. Also, not that I disagree with you on your NCAA suggestion, but that, unfortunately, will be a no also. But, a solid yes, on the Go Dawgs!

1eyedJack

March 9th, 2011
1:52 pm

“When college coaches make more money than the president of the US, we have a problem in our value system.”

He’s had two atrocious seasons in a row and this one ain’t starting any better.

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anotherdawg

March 9th, 2011
1:57 pm

Wonder how many games ol’ Jim would have been suspended if he had sold that vest on E-bay?

Lowcountry Bulldawg

March 9th, 2011
1:58 pm

ViningsDawg,

Actually ESPN is killing Tressel. You should listen to Cowherds show today, he was destroying Tressel. At one point it was so bad I could here the bus getting ready to warm up to roll Tressel. This is just the start. The media is going to drive this home and ultimately it may cost Tressel his job.

anotherdawg

March 9th, 2011
2:05 pm

I think the fair thing to do is fire Tressel, make Gee the coach, and schedule his first two games next year with TCU and Boise State.

MGo

March 9th, 2011
2:18 pm

There is no integrity left in big time college sports, esp. football. I miss the 70s.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 9th, 2011
2:20 pm

Instead of BUCKEYE, tOSU fans should be called, BLINDEYE, BLOCKEYE or BLACKEYE.

Skitty Fritty

March 9th, 2011
2:26 pm

Cecil Newton, Cam Newton, Bruce Pearl & Tressel – enough already!

What does the NCAA do anymore?

gomdawg

March 9th, 2011
2:27 pm

I think Ohio State should have to forfeit it season last year , a coach knowing his big time QB had done this and allowed him to play ball ,knowing all along teams like Georgia and others had to play with key player out for 5 games.

Hollywould

March 9th, 2011
2:31 pm

What if the NCAA strips OSU of the bowl game last year? Then they would be 0-SEC again. LOL

Alabama Jack

March 9th, 2011
2:43 pm

Dawgs just jealous, but remain irrelevant. the least of the est.

Necromonger

March 9th, 2011
2:45 pm

Heard that Tressel asked AD Smith what Woody would do…..after picking himself up off the floor and getting his jaw reset, Tressel responded that maybe that wasn’t the best question he could have asked.

Dumbo

March 9th, 2011
2:47 pm

Alabama Jack…dang boy….you smell..er…I mean spell worse than me…must be that lower education you get in Alabama

Buck Blew

March 9th, 2011
2:48 pm

Georgia lost to a pathetic Colorado team with A.J. Green playing and playing at a high level.

Richt stinks as a head coach. Plain and simple.

John Kasich

March 9th, 2011
2:53 pm

Ohio is the armpit of the nation.

Brian

March 9th, 2011
2:53 pm

Listen to all you haters! Go Buckeye’s.

Rob

March 9th, 2011
2:54 pm

Wow. 16 comments before anyone mentions Newton?? You guys are slipping.

Mark Richt Hater

March 9th, 2011
3:00 pm

Ohio state is the biggest HYPOCRITE around college football if Rihct leads the NCAA in arrests, then ohio state football team is number 2

Ohio Jailbirds

March 9th, 2011
3:04 pm

I have two words for you Maurice Clarett

Brian

March 9th, 2011
3:04 pm

Where is a WHAAAAAAAmbulance when you need one!!!!

Jealous SEC Fans

March 9th, 2011
3:06 pm

Face it SEC fans, the NCAA doesn’t like you. Oh by the way, Ohio State has won a National Title this century, not the like UGA…

sara

March 9th, 2011
3:08 pm

please put his sweater vest on 2 yrs. probation

Hollywould

March 9th, 2011
3:09 pm

Well, I guess since Tressel lied he is no longer a leader but a legend. Dumb-ass names.

npgator

March 9th, 2011
3:09 pm

No offense – but any time that you quote Jimmy Carter you lose all credibilty.

Chainz

March 9th, 2011
3:18 pm

Just cut the BS…..College sports make the schools millions….For this the players get a free ride to that impressive Physical Education diploma……WOOO HOOO…….provide for their needs and we wont have scandals……. would 20k per athlete really hurt……..

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
3:23 pm

Clearly you sec dregs now know who is the REAL power in the NCAA. OH-IO! Learn it, like it, live it.

Chainz

March 9th, 2011
3:25 pm

@ Rob……don’t need to say anything about Scam….he showed em at the combine……… If he had to operate in an offense that didn’t give him a make it up as you go mentality…. like having to read a playbook……. Hmmm Kinda Mike Vick-ish…… probably knows more plays on his play station than in real life……Glad he couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn from 20 yards in…..hate to see the panthers waste a pick…… Cam should ask OJ how much can you get fo dis thiesman trophy……

headley lamar

March 9th, 2011
3:26 pm

Clearly you sec dregs now know who is the REAL power in the NCAA. OH-IO! Learn it, like it, live it.

What are you guys like 1-10 all time vs the SEC in bowls and had to cheat to get the one. Let us know when you are ready to play with the big boys. In the meantime you are pretty irrelevant.

Hollywould

March 9th, 2011
3:27 pm

REAL power/ what a joke. Shouldn’t u be ice fishing?

headley lamar

March 9th, 2011
3:28 pm

No offense – but any time that you quote Jimmy Carter you lose all credibilty.

I was thinking Bush. He doubled this nations debt from 5 trillion to 10 in only 8 years

Worst President Ever..

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
3:31 pm

Lets see, were any OSU players arrested for breaking the law? Umm, no. Were any uga players arrested for breaking the law? Umm, yes. Here is a little Sesame Street game for you dog fans. Which is more? Wins by the dogs last season or arrests of dogs players last year.

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
3:31 pm

Hollywood, the fishing is much better on this blog!

The Producer

March 9th, 2011
3:33 pm

This is just another slap on the wrist of the coach. The next student/athlete violate a rule will get the the shaft…..

(((42-34)))!!!

March 9th, 2011
3:33 pm

Let’s call the Ohio St. situation what it is… a SHAM! Sweater vest boy gets a two game suspension, PALEEEESE! I hope the Ohio St. AD is hiding in a nuclear bomb shelter somewhere, because he got away with one and doesn’t deserve to surface for a long time.

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
3:33 pm

Hey, you guys talking about the presidents, find another site. This is for venting jealousy and inferiority complexes. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
3:39 pm

Hey, I need for some pathetic dog fan to tell me how many N.C.s the SEC has won in a row and how that makes the SEC teams the best in the country.

UGA Insider

March 9th, 2011
3:41 pm

This is just the beginnings of a spring and summer full of scandal and suspensions. Just wait until more is uncovered at AU, Oregon, UT and many many others. This is all just getting started from what I hear…..

Ohio?

March 9th, 2011
3:43 pm

The state of Ohio is gigantic DUMP. Ohio is the central figure in a part of the country that’s slowly dying day-by-day, which is why it’s commonly referred to as the rust belt. Nobody wants to move to Ohio, because it’s a toxic wasteland filled with empty factories reminiscent of the early American industrial revolution.

Even your native son Lebron James wanted to leave that hole. Ohio St. is becoming more and more irrelevant as most of the intelligent residents are leaving for the Sun Belt.

Please have your dreams of grandeur, but the fact is Ohio St. sucks and will continue to suck.

dawgster

March 9th, 2011
3:44 pm

I think its time that the presidents of some of these other Universities start looking at pulling out of the NCAA…Its become apparent that there is no consistancy in their rulings. It depends on who you are.. What a piece of crap they have become. I’m not against enforcement of the rules but at some point you have to wonder what the NCAA’s agenda actually is. Why are there so many inconsistancies in their rulings….

Jim Wright

March 9th, 2011
3:45 pm

Timmy Dog

March 9th, 2011
3:53 pm

Nice work Bill. You obviously posted this prior to the Ray Drew news breaking. Way to go.

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
3:58 pm

Jim, what are you doing? You shouldn’t post that link! That was the same event that CMR knew not to go to and I bet he knew the former dogs were going in his stead. Wait, that is a coverup! This willful coverup plus the revolving door at the Clarke Co. jail must mean a loss of institutional control. GIVE UGA THE DEATH PENALTY!!!!!

DawgByte

March 9th, 2011
4:00 pm

Timmy Dog – The Ray Drew story is a non-story. Moreover, it was reported to the Mike Slive by our AD. We didn’t wait for the NCAA to come knocking! Unlike Ohio St.

Chainshaw

March 9th, 2011
4:03 pm

Look at all of the Bullpuppy fans on here crowing about this. I guess if you can’t even win your division of your conference, at least you can make fun of another school who got in a little trouble. The fact remains that the one and only NC that you ever had is over 30 years old.

At least a Bama, Auburn, LSU, or Florida fan could claim to be looking down on OSU. Dawg fans just have to hope for a good scandal to bring others down to their basement view.

The NCAA will handle Tressel. He will get many more games off of the sidelines. None of this will make the UGA players any better or any less likely to get arrested.

THETA CHI

March 9th, 2011
4:04 pm

@buckeye4life. Did you get your education from an institution in Ohio, or did you just quit after 3rd grade? I have seen post from people from ALA. that have better grammer skills than you. By the way, what conference has won the most NC’s over the past decade? Just wondering.

THETA CHI

March 9th, 2011
4:09 pm

@chainsaw- is that your wresslin name or what? Hey, they call me chainsaw…… my real name is Elmer. This is a post for UGA, why are you on here? I guess because there is no wresslin at the civic center tonight, you got bored because you are a true Bama boy, wanted to make yourself feel better… one question for you why did Bama fans through a brick or rock through Coach Curry’s window when he was having a winning season?

DawgByte

March 9th, 2011
4:10 pm

Chainshaw -

People flock to this board the second we have bad news. Payback is rough, isn’t it?

Dander Bunderwhack

March 9th, 2011
4:12 pm

Ohio? -

That was a good one! You’re right the state of Ohio is a major DUMP!

supsalemgr

March 9th, 2011
4:13 pm

The most important thing to the NCAA is THEIR image. I have a feeling there are some folks there who are ready to make an example of some institutions. Who better than OSU and “Kid” Kiffin. They do not like their integrity and credibility being questioned as it is. I am sure there some interesting posts on the Michigan and Penn State boards about this.

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
4:13 pm

THETA: no comma required before the conjunction “or.” Post should be the plural, “posts.” The abreviation for Alabama is Al, not all uppercase ALA. One last thing, NC’s should be N.C.s, remember the periods and since it is plural and not possesive, an apostrophe is incorrect. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Jim Tressel's Sweater Vest

March 9th, 2011
4:18 pm

BUCKEYE4LIFE -

See Ohio?’s post about your wonderful state.

THETA CHI

March 9th, 2011
4:20 pm

@buckeye4life- When I was a child- ALA stood for Alabama, MISS stood for Mississippi, TENN stood for Tennessee, etc… so in essance I am correct, It should not be NC not N.C. you got me on the comma. Will you please answer my questions though?

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
4:27 pm

THETA, I did answer you. I will answer you again. No matter what or where you were taught as a child, ALA, MISS, TENN, etc.. are grammatically incorrect. By the way, you should have placed a comma after essance but not one after correct since you capitalized It. See if you can understand my answer this time. If not, maybe someone else will splain it to you.

savh dawg

March 9th, 2011
4:29 pm

Have you seen the crowds at OSU games? Grown men wearing jerseys. Enough said.

THETA CHI

March 9th, 2011
4:35 pm

@buckeye4life- I guess that the below passage pulled from the United States list of abbreviations is wrong as well-

The standard, or traditional, abbreviations, were widely used on mailing addresses and in other contexts before the two-letter postal abbreviations were introduced. Use the standard state abbreviations, with periods and spaces as shown, for all purposes other than postal addresses. The United States Post Office instituted two letter state abbreviations along with five digit zip codes in 1963. These postal abbreviations should only be used in mailing addresses. When abbreviating the name of a state in a mailing address, use uppercase letters, with no space between the letters.
Maybe you should google it- Also, you still have not answered where you received your education or what conference has won more championships.

Byt he way- I made grammatical errors for you since you now seem to be an English Major. Happy Hunting.

supsalemgr

March 9th, 2011
4:35 pm

Buckeye4life seems to be dealing in diversions from the matter at hand.

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
4:38 pm

savh dawg, what a brilliant observation as we all know that never is the case at Sanford stadium or any other SEC stadium. Did you just get home from middle school?
JTSV, Ohio, I saw it but I kept thinking about Ga being ranked in the bottom five of the country in public schools. 3 of the largest school systems are now or have been in trouble with SACS. Atlanta’s water system is in complete disarray including there not being enough water. The airport is being run by crooks. There are more Knick and Laker fans at Hawks games. Where should I stop before I tell you why I did not respond to Ohio?

Einsteindawg

March 9th, 2011
4:40 pm

News flash!!! It’s all about the money! Although many inept things, the NCAA is not stupid…they know the money makers.

Mike Connor

March 9th, 2011
4:42 pm

No the south is still dirtier because it killed Americans (patriotic Americans) to keep slavery.

Zoli

March 9th, 2011
4:44 pm

Where is Buckeye? The funny thing will be that THE Ohio State will still be 0fur against the SEC after all games from last year are vacated!

BrutusNutus

March 9th, 2011
4:45 pm

Buckeyes could sit those five players and still beat mighty 6-7 LOSERS UG-UG-UGA by two TD’s! BTW morons, this is just the OSU punishment, the NCAA is still thinking it over. Wait till 2020!

SEC fan

March 9th, 2011
4:47 pm

Bill King,
Will the media be invited to the official NCAA kissing of Tressel’s arse when a final ruling on this situation is announced?

BrutusNutus

March 9th, 2011
4:53 pm

SEC – Look for a big, fat contract extension coming soon for Mr Tressel. He made a bad decision, but he can still coach circles around Richt.

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
4:54 pm

Hey Zoli, what will Auburn’s record be after Camgate has been settled? Will UGA have more wins or arrests this year? Which lowly opponent will UGA lose to this year?

7576DAWG

March 9th, 2011
4:54 pm

Integrity , ethics as well as other values still mean a lot to UGA , the people in charge at UGA and the Alumni who control donations. If CMR ever let’s the players and the TV money dictate things instead of us doing the right thing I will pull my support and I hope the alumni will join me until we get people in place who will make us proud.
Having said that it is sad to see the Alumni base and their school’s governing body sitting on their butt’s at great colleges like Ohio State, Tennessee, Southern Cal, Auburn, and other’s school’s on the list who have developed WIN AT ANY COST ATTITUDE. I am embarrassed for them and all of college football. If the Governing body at each school, the NCAA and the Alumni base doesn’t start coming down hard on violators I hope CONGRESS will step in and save what values are left in college football. And if you knew me, Letting the Government do anything would absolutely be our last resort , one of being desperate. but I and I hope a lot more like me who love college football have just about had enough.

supsalemgr

March 9th, 2011
5:01 pm

Please 7576Dawg, the last people we need involved in this is the 535 idiots in Congress!

alphadog71

March 9th, 2011
5:06 pm

You have to consider the history of the program when judging these infractions. Ohio State has a relatively clean history, prior to Tattoo-gate. Few arrested active players, no robberies or girl friend beatings. Should this happen at the Athens Correctional Institute the book gets thrown, the coach and Prez Adams both go down.

4xtra

March 9th, 2011
5:08 pm

Let me tell you something …
I am from Ohio and a buckeye fan and that is the way it is in Ohio.
Ohio State Football is god in Columbus and you best believe they will not mess with coach Tress. He beats Michigan every year and that is all it matters. Coach T even covered Maurice Clarretts tail on his FIRST felony and it was TOTALLY swept under the rug and everyone knew but simply didnt say anything OUT LOUD. It was the secret everyone knew about.
The players drive around in $50k+ cars spend a fortune in strip clubs, and live a life of luxury. This has ALWAYS and will always be the “standard” in buckeye country. TRUST ME I went to Ohio State and could EASILY write a book on the things I PERSONALLY saw .

Terrelle Prior Conviction

March 9th, 2011
5:10 pm

So you think Mark Richt’s program is out of control? All the little things, and a few bigger things, but:
“In May of 2009, The Columbus Dispatch reported that since 2000, Ohio State had reported to the NCAA more than 375 violations — the most of any of the 69 Football Bowl Subdivision schools that provided documents to the newspaper through public-records requests. Most of the infractions were minor and resulted in little or no punishment.”

ESPN.com

bamaguy

March 9th, 2011
5:26 pm

While the media was obsessed with what Cam Newton did and did not know and with how many players Nick Saban was signing to scholarships, this guy was quietly, and with intent, covering up known major NCAA violations. Under that nice guy veneer, he is slime.

7576DAWG

March 9th, 2011
5:40 pm

Dawg Tired

March 9th, 2011
5:44 pm

This is too easy! If the NCAA does not come down major big time hard on The Ohio State University they should just close their offices and go fishing. The Ohio State University’s head football coach and, apparently the man whom the president of The Ohio State University reports to, knowingly played ineligible players the entire season, covered the clear violations up, and then lied about it. This can not be defended nor tolerated. The ball is now squarely in the NCAA’s court. Let’s see what they do.

7576DAWG

March 9th, 2011
5:54 pm

Supsalemgr
That is why I said it is a last resort ,desperate thing to do , but if it will clean up college football I’m all for it.
I’m tired of the do nothing wimps of the NCAA and the governing body of the individual schools not doing what’s right and them looking the other way.
4xtra
I’m not singling out Ohio State , this problem is wide spread . I just want something done because I love college football and it’s about to be labeled a dirty business.

ACE

March 9th, 2011
5:55 pm

The NCAA has been doing this for years. How about Callipari? Or Petino for that matter? Callipari has had two NCAA final fours erased from the books

Ohio St. cheaters

March 9th, 2011
5:56 pm

OHIO ST. WILL BE 0 – 10 AGAINST SEC TEAMS .

bamaguy

March 9th, 2011
5:58 pm

Other schools have been slammed for “lack of institutional control.” Wonder what the penalty is for “intentional institutional deceit?”

Dawg Tired

March 9th, 2011
6:06 pm

When the guy in the highest position of authority in The Ohio State University covers up known infractions and then lies about them to the NCAA surely something harsh is coming down the pike.

Wonder what Kirky Herbie will say?

TopDawg

March 9th, 2011
6:15 pm

Don’t cast the first stone unless…Be careful with such articles since everyone in Dawg nation except apparently the Athletic Department knew who was going to be at Drew’s signing on signing day. We have a little dust and spiderwebs within our own team. Point is not to relish the misfortune of others, EVER. Let’s just try to keep our own dawghouse clean and let the others worry about their own mess.

Old Dawg

March 9th, 2011
6:35 pm

What do you expect, the Big 10 is an academic conference?

andy in Macon

March 9th, 2011
6:35 pm

Nottingham, Bugs, and other assorted UGA haters: Pitt led the NCAA in arrests–UGA wasn’t even mentioned in the latest SI mag on arrests in NCAA football. Traffic tickets really aren’t mentioning!

GR82BAG8R

March 9th, 2011
6:36 pm

Bill, you are wrong. There is plenty of institutional control at THE Ohio State University. That control is the head football coach. Even the president of THE Ohio State University is afraid of him.

andy in Macon

March 9th, 2011
6:36 pm

aren’t worth mentioning–sorry

andy in Macon

March 9th, 2011
6:38 pm

TopDawg–that would be a nonstory anywhere else!

GR82BAG8R

March 9th, 2011
6:38 pm

TopDog, I believe the UGA folks in attendance believed the kid had already signed.

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GR82BAG8R

March 9th, 2011
6:51 pm

Hopefully opposing teams bands next year will play the Fantasy Island theme for the Buckeyes – - all the students can point to the sky and say “The plane The plane”.

GR82BAG8R

March 9th, 2011
6:54 pm

Even better, point to the Ohio State football team and yell “The Plane The Plane” over and over and over.

cfnfdnff

March 9th, 2011
7:10 pm

BUCKEYE4LIFE
March 9th, 2011
4:27 pm

THETA, I did answer you. I will answer you again. No matter what or where you were taught as a child, ALA, MISS, TENN, etc.. are grammatically incorrect. By the way, you should have placed a comma after essance but not one after correct since you capitalized It. See if you can understand my answer this time. If not, maybe someone else will splain it to you.vbncfnfndfcg

Phil

March 9th, 2011
7:48 pm

Don’t be so quick to judge the “light” punishment, yet. The players involved will be suspended the first five games next year-a steeper price than A.J. Green paid this past season- I agree, that the suspension should’ve also included the Sugar Bowl, although I’m convinced that thaat was due to the Sugar Bowl’s plea to the NCAA that suspension would ruin their game. As for Tressel, that was only the University punishments. I find it hard to believe that there won’t be some loss of scholarships added to it. I do take issue with calling it a “cover-up.” he didn’t try to hide the info, just didn’t report it. Both are bad-but covering it up is a lot worse.

GR82BAG8R

March 9th, 2011
8:32 pm

Phil, don’t try to defend Tressel. He signed a statement telling the NCAA they were in compliance, knowing full well they weren’t

Referee

March 9th, 2011
8:52 pm

Nottingham,
I am sure that all other schools have bad eggs in their program. They just hide them. At least Georgia tells the truth when asked. Can you or Ohio state? Good question.

Bawbie

March 9th, 2011
8:52 pm

Fire Dave Perno !

Damon Evans

March 9th, 2011
8:54 pm

Jim Tressel is “Good People” Red panties and red sweater vests are all good !

Tide Rising

March 9th, 2011
10:20 pm

This is not the first time for Ohio State to skate. We always enjoy retelling an NCAA favorite. Former Ohio State star Maurice Clarett and OSU admitted that he received thousands of dollars in impermissible benefits and there were also allegations of academic fraud. The NCAA never investigated the matter.

An NCAA statement that tops even “Didn’t know” was that they had been unable to investigate the matter because Clarett had not returned their phone calls. No, you cannot make this stuff up.

As we have pointed out, Clarett spent several years in prison in Ohio and if NCAA investigators had taken him a carton of cigarettes he would have been singing like a canary.

Richie

March 9th, 2011
10:22 pm

Its all about the money boys!!!!!!!!!!

Tide Rising

March 9th, 2011
10:34 pm

Who defends the NCAA today? Certainly not Alabama, which suffered unprecedented penalties at the hands of an organization that did not attempt to hide its prejudice against a member institution. Instead, the NCAA broke its own rules in pursuit of a conviction against Alabama.

In addition to breaking its own rules in the Alabama case the organization used what we have since learned was certainly questionable “secret” testimony from Tennessee Coach Phil Fulmer, who had a dog in a fight he could not win on a level playing field. How this can be considered fair by anyone is beyond reason.

Georgia? The Bulldogs star receiver, A.J. Green, was sentenced to an immediate — repeat, immediate — four-game suspension for selling a jersey.

In broad terms, five Ohio State football players, including star quarterback Terrelle Pryor, have been selling all manner of items they have received because they are Buckeyes. They were also guilty (as admitted by Ohio State) of trading on their status as college athletes for extra benefits. (And these benefits were not schoolbooks, which resulted in hefty penalties for Alabama a few years ago. They were for tattoos.) Extra benefits for the players go back for two years for some.

We’ve been saying for years that the NCAA is a corrupt, arbitrary, and capricious organization that would not stand up to congressional nor public scrutiny. The drastically unequal punishments should finally wake some people up to this fact.

Why the unequal punishments for the Pac 10, ND, and the Big 10? Why would there be favoritism towards the Pac-10, the Big Ten, and Notre Dame? A few decades ago there was a move afoot to have the major football conferences form a College Football Association. The Pac-10 and the Big Ten, which had the lucrative Rose Bowl arrangement, failed to come aboard, as did Notre Dame, and the NCAA was saved.

Incompetent? Corrupt? Both??

I am Bill King

March 9th, 2011
10:47 pm

God, I am a Valdosta State Grad who acts like a UGA grad. please forgive me for being an ignorant hick.

DawgVoiceofReason

March 9th, 2011
11:37 pm

The NCAA needs to lower the Hammer on these OSU clowns. What kind of President is this Gee fool? He needs to resign on principle alone. If selling one jersey merits 4 games to a single player or 10 games for a conversation with D. Sanders, then a coach repeatedly denying knowledge of multiple players’ multiple violations and in such a way that they directly benefited from his failure to report those violations, easily merits a full season’s suspension, without pay. Anything less is blatant hypocrisy.

Robert

March 9th, 2011
11:41 pm

How do they pale in comparison to Bruce Pearl? Let’s see, Pearl hosted a barbecue to which he invited 3 committed players. They would have been allowed there if they were seniors, but since they were juniors, it was a secondary violation. No competitive advantage gained, just a bonehead move. Then, Pearl lied about it when confronted. Stupid. A few weeks later, he came clean.

Tressel knew of 5 players in April who had compromised their eligibility by receiving illegal compensation for merchandise sold and he did nothing about it. He then conspired with an attorney to cover it up by getting the merchandise back. Then, in September, he signed an NCAA form saying that he had no knowledge of any wrongdoings…not just a lie, a signed statement lie. He actually gained a competitive advantage (unlike Pearl) in playing those players all year. Then, when the truth about the sold merchandise came out in December, he petitioned for (and received) a light treatment, never owning up to prior knowledge. Not only has he refused to own up to his lie, but he’s appealed their postponed suspension for next season. And at the PC today, he was arrogant and unapologetic.

No, Bruce Pearl is not in the same ballpark as Jim Tressel. That’s like comparing Barney Fife to Elliot Ness.

DawgVoiceofReason

March 9th, 2011
11:46 pm

Phil,

Do you really make a distinction between “not reporting” and “covering up”??? If so, please explain the clear (apparently to you) difference between the two. I mean really, are you going to say that “covering up” would have required effort or intent or willful actions? Please make it something more meaningful than that. The man was given multiple opportunities to disclose or report what he knew and he deliberately chose not to do so.

DawgVoiceofReason

March 9th, 2011
11:52 pm

Tide Rising,

I dont’ know whether Alabama got what they deserved or not, but if the NCAA fails to act swiftly and decisively in this case, then your points about corruption or incompetence will have been well made.

Tide Rising

March 9th, 2011
11:58 pm

A head coach covering up violations is about as big a major violation as you can have. Its called lack of institutional control and always results in a major penalty such as lost schollys, bowl ban,etc. Plain and simple but somehow or another OSU will skate.

The first Bama probation ever was for the exact same thing. Gene Stallings found out after the fact that a star player had signed a contract with a sports agent on a napkin earlier in the season and Stallings wasn’t forthcoming with it. The result-Bama’s first ever major probation which if I remember correctly resulted in the loss of 15 schollys. Think OSU will get in trouble for Tressel doing the exact same thing in not revealing a violatin? Nope. Aint gonna happen.

Tide Rising

March 10th, 2011
12:09 am

Dawgvoiceofreason,

We certainly deserved to be put on probation in the early 2000s. 2 renegade boosters were buying a player to come to Bama. I’ve no problem with that.

My problem is that of the 3 violations we got hit on the ncaa violated their own statute of limitations in one of the 3 violations after we self reported the violation. They acknowledged this but didn’t care.

And also in another of the 3 major violations the investigator fabricated evidence in the case of violation-this was later proven in court documents and depostions with witnesses.

This same investigator has been implicated in seveal other cases- Jackie Sherrill at MSU,Tarkanian at UNLV- for fabricating evidence. In the UNLV case on one of the violations the NCAA obtained a conviction by telling a Sudanese player that he and his family would be deported back to war torn Sudan where they would surely be killed if the player didn’t go along with the fabricated violation. In the end Tark won an enormous judgement against the NCAA. A lot of people don’t realize all this happened. This is how politicize and slimy the NCAA is.

My other problem is using a rival coach as a “secret witness”. That violates all sense of due process and fair play.

These are a few of the reasons why we Bama fans have an axe to grind with the NCAA.

dawg48

March 10th, 2011
3:03 am

sounds like buckeyes pride is hurt just a little

UGA FRIEND

March 10th, 2011
4:35 am

As several posters have pointed out, the NCAA has not taken action yet. Give them due time to act. It seems like the majority of the blogs who want OSU to be punished are just doing so because they want to be heard as the saints or judges of something they know nothing about. I am not an OSU fan but I don`t understand why
so many people get so uptight about something that does not affect them personally.

Bama Fan #2

March 10th, 2011
4:44 am

Tide Rising you are the man!! The head coach at Ohio St pulled a Richard Nixon watergate
theme COVERUP and got trapped in his lies. Michigan fans are loving this story!!!

Retnav

March 10th, 2011
6:16 am

SEC the cleanest programs in college football. GIVE ME A BREAK!!! And Georgia fans let me ask you what Juvy lockup does your coach recruit at. It seems like a lot of his players end up in lineups at some police station. I’m not saying Ohio State deserves any break, but please don’t whine about how unfair the NCAA is to the poor old SEC. We all know that all big time programs have stuff going on just some get caught and some don’t it’s just OSU’s turn. And one other thing UGA fans. All I hear about is SEC this SEC that what about UGA this and UGA that? Thats right you can’t talk about your team because your almost on the hine teet of your conference. All you can do is hang your hat on your conference because you can’t on your beloved Dawgs.

Dean Tate

March 10th, 2011
6:41 am

Yeah, but Randall Godfrey and David Pollack attended Ray Drew’s signing ceremony. Now THERE is a real crime!

catlady

March 10th, 2011
6:50 am

I am under the impression that when Gee was president at Vandy, HE was the control-er. What happened?

legionaire

March 10th, 2011
6:53 am

The NCAA has always been selective in their punishment or even investigations. Do you think that John Wooden was able to win 6 straight NCAA Championships with not even a hint of big money being given to his players? How about the Bear? Never had any trouble with the NCAA at elephantville. How many players did he sign and hide over the years? What did it take for Namath to come to the sticks to play ball? Finally the Cam Newton traveling show did not even get a smell yet from the NCAA.

Alabama Jack

March 10th, 2011
7:01 am

To whomever commented about my spelin, I be a proud product of the Jawga educatrional and correctional system.

Mulk

March 10th, 2011
7:13 am

It alweays amazes me to hear King or Bonehart denigrate any other program. They don’t have mirrors or memories where they come from?

UGA? R U Kidding

March 10th, 2011
7:25 am

Too bad OSU can’t have a little more class and integirty like UGA! Michael Adams, UGA President:
“There was urination, there was defecation, there were 70 tons of trash. Buildings like the Law School or the library, we’ve had to close because when we left them open the destruction was too significant.”

Willie Spanker

March 10th, 2011
7:38 am

The sweater vest is immune from NCAA sanctions and certain parts of the Geneva Convention.

Cool Jerk

March 10th, 2011
7:50 am

Is this the time of the offseason where Georgia fans act like they’re being persecuted in some way?

“LIFE IS SO UNFAIR!” says the losers who think their program is still elite…

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
8:01 am

GT,

FYI, I posted all day yesterday on Bradley’s blog. No, I’m not Nottingham. I have more character than to change my name on a freakin’ blog.

Bob

March 10th, 2011
8:02 am

The NCAA needs to go. A player selling something at market value that they own should not be any business of the NCAA. Now the dogs have to jump through hoops because one of their recruits had 2 ex dogs at his signging ceremony. They are looking at 5 violations for 2 players showing up. The NCAA has to many lawyers, 5 violations for this ?

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
8:10 am

jssmooth, cpo and bulldawg country,

As evidenced by Bradley’s blog, I was in the ring yesterday. I didn’t run and hide, didn’t take my toys and go home, didn’t hide under the desk.

Hope you boys have a good day.

Buckeye

Cool Jerk

March 10th, 2011
8:10 am

Say what you want about the rule (I personally think it’s dumb), but Pollack and Godfrey should have known better.

Even as an Auburn fan, I admired Pollack as a player. But he is an absolute buffoon and makes Georgia football look bad. You ever listen to him on 790? The guy is dumber than a bag of bricks.

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
8:16 am

Tattoos? Look at your own boys arms and necks. They will be on display at the Ga Dome at noon and at your football complex during (fomerly know as Mat Drills) workouts.

Player arrests? None

Tressel? No defense. A kick in the gut.

Schedule? No one except Ohio State schedules soft games ealry. Ya, right.

Predictions:

2010 – vacated
Sugar Bowl – vacated ( crap, we’re 0-9 again. Ha!)
Tatt 5 – no additional punishment, no reduction in suspension
Tressel – resigns sooner than later
Starting QB – Braxton Miller, FR
Next coach – not Urban Meyer

I’m available….take you shots.

BMDPD

March 10th, 2011
8:17 am

Buckeye, to be the smack talker that you usually are, you are handling this with grace. I applaud you for that.

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
8:29 am

BMDPD,

Thank you. I feel most for the kids on the team and the incoming class. As usual, the kids that has zerp to do with any of this get screwed. Guess that’s the risk you run.

TR

March 10th, 2011
8:30 am

THE NCAA NEEDS TO BE DESTROYED. IT IS AS CORRUPT AS ANYTHING ANYWHERE. ANYONE WHO HAS EVER HAD DEALINGS WITH THESE PEOPLE REALIZE THIS. THE FACT THAT DR ADAMS OF UGA WAS EVEN BEING CONSIDERED FOR A POST SHOULD PROVE THE POINT. IT IS POLITICAL BEYOND SENSIBILITY. CERTAIN FAIR HAIRED SCHOOLS ARE ABOVE THE LAW.

UGA NEVER GOT IN TROUBLE UNTIL THE 1980′S WHEN UGA AND OKLA U FILED SUIT AGAINST THE NCAA TO ALLOW CABLE TO TELEVISE FOOTBALL GAMES. THAT BROKE THE NCAA MONOPLOY. WITH 2-3 YRS BOTH SCHOOLS WERE “GUILTY” OF SOME VIOLATIONS.

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
8:30 am

dawgs everywhere,

May Isaiah Crowell be everything you hope him to be, on and off the field. Terrelle Pryor teaches us Prima Donna’s may cost more than they’re worth.

supsalemgr

March 10th, 2011
8:36 am

I tend to agree with Buckeye that Tressel will be gone. It is becoming more clear he purposely witheld the information about five players. His resignation might be part of a deal for OSU not to vacate 2010, but I would not be surprised if they don’t get some pretty heavy penalties.

GABuckeye

March 10th, 2011
8:38 am

I have often wondered why there seems to be so much concern and hatred for Ohio State coming from SEC fans and mainly UGA fans. Why does anyone down here even care what happens to Ohio State? I hear all of this talk about “Ohio State cant beat an SEC team” how many of those SEC losses where to UGA? does it really make you that proud that another team beat Ohio State? Do you really have that little going on in your program that you are concerned with what happens in an Ohio State game? Ohio State does get a lot of chances to play in BCS games…9 of them as a matter of fact. And guess what, they have won 6 of them. Yes, they lost two NC games to SEC teams…does that make Kentucky any better of a program?

Pound your chest all day about how great the SEC is, as a UGA fan “conference pride” is really all you have to pound your chest about.

Let the big boys in Florida, LSU, Auburn and Alabama win the titles…you guys just keep jumping on their band wagon.

woebegong

March 10th, 2011
8:41 am

I am not sure why this would be considered a junkyard blog. Certainly, something more revelant to UGA sports could be written other than this.

Cool Jerk

March 10th, 2011
8:42 am

Excellent post, GABuckeye…I hear it all the time from these wanna-be dorks…they try to take credit for our National Championship, even while calling us cheaters.

They are sore losers in the truest sense of the word, and love spitting out venom at any and all other programs because they’re so miserable themselves.

dagnabit

March 10th, 2011
8:44 am

This just makes CMR and the SEC look better.

Cool Jerk

March 10th, 2011
8:51 am

How exactly, dagnabit? You realize Richt had more arrests on his team than ANY other team in the nation?

joe

March 10th, 2011
8:52 am

What a complete and utter joke the NCAA is…..this piece of crap school gets to hand pick what games it will serve it’s so called penality from the NCAA….The president of the NCAA should be fired for this…..

Flemming Island Dawg

March 10th, 2011
8:53 am

Hey GABuckeye why are you on our blog if you are only concerned about your Buckeyes and if you are still wondering how many losses you have to georgia it’s one. We played you once and beat you once.

Cool Jerk

March 10th, 2011
8:58 am

Richt may not cover up the arrests, but he certainly downplays them…stealing, hit-and-run, DUI…Richt has the same “boys will be boys” mentality that ol’ Bobby Bowden had.

Rey Guff

March 10th, 2011
9:00 am

The biggest change that CMR needs to make is to stop recruiting the low-class illiterates and thugs who he seems to think will win for him and keep his oversized paychecks coming in. People like Marcus Dowtin, A.J. Green, Washaun Ealey, Caleb King, and others too numerous to mention are not team players, they’re thug wannabes who are much closer to a gang than a team.

It’s sickening to see felons and goons like these representing the state’s flagship university.

Whirlaway

March 10th, 2011
9:04 am

UGA, runaway winner of the Fulmer/Richt Cup for the most players arrested last year.

GABuckeye

March 10th, 2011
9:09 am

Flemming Island Dawg, I came to this blog through a Google search about Ohio State. You can even type in “UGA Football” into Google news and this story is the 5th result…that seems odd to me. You are correct in the sense that it is a UGA blog but who knew a UGA blog would be so focused on Ohio State. Its typical UGA fan sensibilty though…We cant win anything, so lets focus on someone else. UGA fans have this sense that they are going to or should be winning championships. Where does that come from?

Guess what UGA fans, in the last 20 years you have the same amount of National Championship trophies as Kentucky and Vanderbilt…0!

Start focusing more of your “Blogs” on the issues you have in your own backyard and maybe they will get fixed. Our you can just keep projecting onto other teams and watch as someone else takes home the trophy.

LADawg

March 10th, 2011
9:17 am

The biggest cover up is being done by everyone who collects a paycheck, some in the millions, off of “student athletes. What a sham! Eliminate the NCAA, everyone admit that college football and basketball are minor league sports, and make college educations optional; if a player wants to go to class fine, if not, show up for practice and be ready to play on game day.

bill

March 10th, 2011
9:31 am

I remember when Clemson and Danny Ford got into trouble with the NCAA and the president stepped in . The Boosters and IPTAY jumped on the President and eventually he got a vote of no confidence anf QUIT. He would rather quit than admit the school thought more of the football team than the school itself. Some Colleges are just life support for the football team. When Louisville cleaned up their basketball program the two time national champion coach who learned to cheat under John Wooden told the school you could either have a great basketball team or scholastic requirements. At least he was honest about Louisville. Remember Tom Brookshire . He made a joke about the IQ of the Louisville Basketballl team and got fired. The trutyh will get you fired.

bill

March 10th, 2011
9:34 am

Tressel won at the 1AA level and he cheated and ran an outlaw program Youngstown State. OSU hired him anyway. They knew what they were getting. Might as well keep supporting him

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
9:42 am

GABuckeye,

Finally, reinforcements!

Let’s talk basketball, shall we? Ummmm, who’s the likely # 1 seed in the NCAA?

Who won the outright Big 10 Championship?

Who has more teams ranked in the Top 20?

Why is Howard (before I was Trey) and Co. the first four out according to some?

Questions to ponder before tip-off. I’ll be rooting for you, Howard ( before I was Trey), I’ll also be plotting tattoos on my high-def.

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
9:46 am

To those referencing Ohio as a dump, I note the current unemployment rate in metro Atlanta is 10.4%. The national rate is 8.9%. The rate in Columbus, Ohio is 8.3%. Got talk “dump” on Jimmy Carter or Chamblee Dunwoody.

DawginLex

March 10th, 2011
9:49 am

Lunardi now has UGA in the NCAA play in game

SE GA Fan

March 10th, 2011
9:51 am

@Nottingham
UGA didn’t make the top 25 for criminals playing football. Check the article and cover of SI.

george

March 10th, 2011
10:00 am

we all know the NCAA and conferece rules are made up as they go along anyway so just get over it. Remember when 32 classy players and coaches left the bench to fight in the Auburn game? Ya i guess you also forgot it could not be written any more clear that any player or coach that leaves the bench is to be supsended a game. The same could be said about the Cam newton case,dez bryant, the bruce pearl deal, and jim calhoun. I could go on and on.

Joel

March 10th, 2011
10:08 am

I agree with many of the comments about Ohio State. The punishment of A. J. Green was uncalled for. The NCAA postponement of the Ohio State players was clearly preferntial treatment, allowing OSU to have a chance at a bowl win.

As a Tennessee fan, I don’t condone what Bruce Pearl did. It was deplorable and should be condemned. UT imposed sugnificant penalties and the SEC imposed additional penalties, which I accept, and believe was fair. I will also accept whatever additional penalties the NCAA imposes. However, I will certainly be looking at how the NCAA treats OSU. However, I don’ see a big difference in what BP did and what Tressell did. Bruce pearl lied and impeded the NCAA investigation. Tressell lied, first by his inaction after learning of violations, and then actively by signing the form affirming that he knew of no violations, and then again by lying to his AD.

It could be argued that Tressell’s transgressions were worse since he knowingly allowed ineligible players to participate, while Pearl’s worst violations involved players alredy committed to Tennessee. If the Vols are hammered and OSU gets a pass, I will be outraged as should all SEC fans.

I will be wearing red & black when the Dawgsplay Ohio State!

I-DOG

March 10th, 2011
10:12 am

Damon:

You see the difference between Evans and Tressel, right? One guy was fired about a week after it happened despite the ink still being wet on the new contract he had just signed, but over at Ohio State, the president of the U. is concerned that Tressell might dismiss him and Tressel is given a measley 2 game suspension where OSU plays the little sisters of the poor in both games.

AJ Green deserved to be punished for selling his jersey for $1,000, but he got a 4 game suspension including 3 serious SEC Tilts, all of which were losses for UGA so it is certainly hard to argue that it didn’t hurt AJ and UGA very much. What will the NCAA do to OSU and their players for this institutional cover up? It will be interesting to see, but I’m guessing it will be a lot like the Cam Newton investigation… window dressing

Minnesota Dawg

March 10th, 2011
10:16 am

Have any of you seen Sports Illustrated’s column about college players with police records? Georgia is not even in the top 25!!!!! Guess who is? Florida, Alabama, LSU!!! I thankful for the coach we have. He’s the best!

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
10:21 am

GABuckeye,

Fact of Blog life on the AJC. It is always SEC vs. Ohio State. Is is never SEC vs. Big 10. It is rarely uga vs. Ohio State.

We give them credit for their lone bowl victory against us. Congratualtions. Hines Ward’s team, correct dawgs?

uga is a wannabee basketball program but nevermind, uga is not a “basketball school” and short of Kentucky, the SEC is not a “basketball” conference.

To their credit, uga is a perennial winner in women’s gymnastics and is having a good run with women’s softball this year.

Finally, with all due respect to Pollack and Eric Zeier, I wonder why guys like Herbstreit, Robert Smith, Chris Speilman and Clark Kellog are nationally prominant (Gameday, Final Four, ESPN) while we hear the uga alums on local AM radio?

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
10:24 am

Minnesota dawg,

Problem for uga is that you had to be ranked in the pre-season top 25 to be part of the study. You were not ranked in the pre-season Top 25.

GT fan with visitation rights

March 10th, 2011
10:26 am

Enter your comments here

GABuckeye

March 10th, 2011
10:33 am

Joel stated “If the Vols are hammered and OSU gets a pass, I will be outraged as should all SEC fans.”

This proves my point exactly!! Why should it be that only the SEC fans be outraged? Shouldn’t ALL sports fans be outraged? It’s not the SEC vs. the world and it most certainly isn’t the SEC vs. Ohio State. This “us against the world” mentality only seems to be on the shoulders of the teams that are losers in the SEC. Stop acting as if you are in the MAC conference and get no respect.

Tressel failed as a coach and as a leader in this situation. I personally believe he will either step down or be fired and he will deserve his fate.

Minnesota Dawg

March 10th, 2011
10:35 am

Ok Buckeye. My main point is that when Georgia had all those arrest of their players, other schools were bragging that their schools didn’t have problems like us! Maybe we will play the Buckeyes in a bowl. That would be fun.

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
10:50 am

Minnesota,

Unfortunately, as I posted previously, I suspect our next Bowl Game will be after the 2013 season.

What would be fun is to see uga play Minnesota in that fine new college stadium!

GABuckeye,

I don’t think he will be fired. I believe he will resign. Soon.

War Eagle

March 10th, 2011
11:04 am

Alabama has been on PROBATION AND HAD MORE HEAD COACHES THAN ANY SEC TEAM LAST 19 YEARS…Bama speaks with a forked tongue dawgs. They even kill 135 year old Oak Trees.

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
11:21 am

FIRE MARK RICHT,

Let’s say he does ger fired. Who would you want?

Meyer?
Tressel?
Saban?
Spurrier?
Chizic?
Young Dooley?

John

March 10th, 2011
11:56 am

Or you could be like UGA’s last Athletic director and get a DUI with a hooker in his car.

Dawg Tired

March 10th, 2011
2:26 pm

GABuckeye – You are thinking too rationally. After that news conference where both Gee and Tressel came off pretty weakly, I will be surprised if he’s fired. I agree with you he should step down or be fired, but just don’t see it happening. Butm who knows, you may be right. We’ll see.

Dawg Tired

March 10th, 2011
2:31 pm

John – We actually fire people that do those things. Or does that fact get in the way of your pot shot? You obviously seem to have some difficulty comprehending the effect of taking action to get rid of the folks who should be fired as opposed to another university’s president actually laughing at the idea that a coach who has lied about infractions of the rules might be fired. Surely you see the difference?

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woebegong

March 11th, 2011
11:19 am

I went to 6 different OSU blogs this morning, and with the exception of one Auburn fan, I didn’t see a single SEC fan on them. I was curious as to whether I would see a lot of negative SEC comments, considering how much a UGA blog gets from the fans of different schools. Darn sure did see a lot of Michigan fans voicing their opion though, LOL. I guess 1-9 in head to head competition will do that. It sure seems like it does for GT fans on UGA blogs.
Perhaps that is why SEC fans get on a OSU fan coming onto their blog and critisizing the DAWGS so much. And before anybody uses the comment “It is a public newspaper blog and therefore I can say what I want”,: This blog is entitled “Junkyard Blawg”. Not buckeye, tide, gator, tiger, Tennessee, eagle or tech. blog.
Having said that, I wonder why this article is even on this blog other then to create traffic for this blog. The only other possible interest could be to show how OSU punishes it’s coaches for a major infraction, in proportion to how UGA punishes theirs. It is important to remember though, that the NCAA has not acted on it yet, so let’s take the wait and see approach.
I* am a little shocked though, in the student newspaper for OSU, calling for his head. I would think, in a matter so serious as this, OSU students and fans should rally around thier coach. I would guess that this speaks either, to how much integrity the folks have concerning their university, or simply seeing that they may have been betrayed, by one, they held in such esteem.
I hope this teaches some of the negative bloggers a lesson, especially when it concerns UGA transgression. I realize they were excessive, but let’s keep it in context. None of these arrest, or violations, were the result of a major crime, mostly being of the misdemeanor variety. I do not believe even these will be tolerated by the coaches or administration in the future at UGA.

GOOOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSSSSSS

Buckeye

March 11th, 2011
12:01 pm

Woe,

You missed “SEC in Columbus” on the Dispatch Blog.

Your logic regarding “junkyard” is flawed. As a Atlanta resident, Georgia taxpayer and a sports fan, I have every right to join the fray if I so choose. I call it as I see it, have fun with a jab, and serious if the situation calls for it.

For the record, I feel betrayed. Still loyal, but betrayed.

woebegong

March 11th, 2011
12:28 pm

Buckeye,

Wonder what the NCAA is gonna do with this? Are they going to try and make an example of OSU, because of the heavy critisism they have received because they are perceived to be uneven in thier punishment of different schools. Maybe they should publish a seperate, reward and crime list, publishing the penalty for violation X and Y for example. Then they would be able to thwart any complaining about being hard on one school and not on another.
You mean, there is an SEC fan in Ohio? LOL.

GOOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSSS

Buckeye

March 11th, 2011
2:19 pm

Woe,

Who knows. We’re screwed either way. Throw the book, we’re screwed. Go light, we’re screwed from a perception standpoint.

I’m still shaking my head this whole mess stems from the ( not illegal/criminal) act of freshman in 2009. No excuses for Tressel and forwarding the orginal email to his superiors. That said, I fear the penalty will not fit the crime – take that however you like – and the people that get screwed are the kids who had nothing to do with it and the fans like you and me.

See Leslie is stepping up today. Ohio State got by Northwestern. Not a good shooting day but we advance. Great Tar Heel finish too. Should be a great weekend.

woebegong

March 11th, 2011
4:17 pm

Buckeye,

I sure lost a lot of respect for him over this whole mess. I always thought he was a standup kinda guy, and then this takes place. My heart wants me to believe him, but my head tells me, my heart is wrong. As you can gather, I am not a buckeye fan, but I had to grudgingly admire how he seemed to get his kids to play at their highest level.It seems good, fair and decent college coaches are few and far between. There is very little doubt it is the big bucks causing the problem. Both the bucks for the coaches as well, as the bucks that can be made by a big school, in the NCAA.
Basketball tournament is going to be interesting this year. Could come down to maybe Ohio State and either N.C. or Duke. I never count coach K out until he loses. Got to admit though, I haven’t had a lot of time to watch it, since I am doing some woodwork now and I might go to a show or two, and see if I can make some extra bucks off it, if I do some more work. It is hard to do that because I have so many darn irons in the fire already.

Oh Well,
GOOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSSS

RMikel58

March 15th, 2011
6:53 am

Nottingham……… you been eating bean soup? Farting so much that you blew a vessel. Georgia voluntarily suspended AJ Green for 1 game unlike Jim Treschel he’s still breaking more violations because he thinks hes smarter than everyone else.
Remember those are the violations and lies he’s admitted to doing and not the other ones he’s still covering up. He hasnt come totally clean because he knows that if he did then half those players would be ineligable to play and he most assuredly would get fired.
This is about money and AD Director of Ohio State made comments to only confirm what i said. What a wuss “maybe he’d fire me” ………no backbone to this guy.
As far AJ Green goes……..this was a jersey he sold and not Lying to a NCAA Investigation. Apples for Apples i say. With AJ Green out that many games Mark Richt had no one that was of AJ talents…..hell no one in college for that matter could step up and take this guys place.
What if Alabama didnt have Julio Jones for 4 games? This changes everything in the scheme of how to run your offense. They didnt have time to figure out who was gonna take his place and perform the way AJ Green does.
Just like if Ohio State had lost their QB Pryor for 4 games are they ready? My guess is no. If he graduated early and entered the draft then they would have time to figure out things ahead of time but Georgia wasnt ready for all of this to happen nor would any program that lost this type of athlete.
You just like all the Ohio State Fans and Alumni dont really care if they break the NCAA Rules even if he admits to being a liar.
If he lied there then what else is he covering up? He has Ohio State eating out of his hands and laughing at how much POWER he has over the University. You guys care about nothing but winning even after the fact that he admits to LYING.
Mark Richt wasnt caught LYING to the NCAA and breaking numerous rules and violations to only get a 2 Game Suspension and a meager 250,000 fine.
Hell Jim Treschel can sit in his car outside the stadium on a cell phone and make calls while he watches the game.
The 250,000 fine….o.k,. so how do you not know that Treschel wont get a bonus this year to offset his fine? I’ll bet you those kiss ass AD in Ohio State have reassured him that he wont lose anything but that it will appear on paper he lost the money.
Tennessee, USC, got stiffer penalties to similar violations and got harsher fines but they admitted to it but Treschel admits to lying and gets a 2 game suspension……….ARE YOU KIDDING ME.
Youre an IDIOT if you think this is right because what AJ Green did compared to what Treschel did is miniscue.
This people is a typical OHIO STATE FAN that truely comes here making excuses for what Treschel did was O.K. but wants all of us Georgia Fans to know that its not near as bad as what AJ Green did.
GET A LIFE!