File the latest Ohio State absurdity under Believe It Or Not!

Jim Tressel apparently outranks Ohio State University's president. (Associated Press)

Jim Tressel apparently outranks Ohio State University's president. (Associated Press)

I’m sure I wasn’t the only colllege football fan left slack-jawed while reading about the latest scandal involving future UGA opponent Ohio State.

And I’m not talking about Jim Tressel being suspended for a measly two games and fined $250,000 by his school after it came out he’d conducted a massive cover-up last season of NCAA violations by five of his players — the same five Tressel lobbied the NCAA not to suspend until this season so he’d finally have a chance to get a win over an SEC team in a bowl game.

And my amazement wasn’t even due to the incredible disparity between the protracted, kid-gloves handling of the OSU investigation compared with the speedy hammering of A.J. Green by the NCAA for a similar infraction as committed by the Buckeye players, resulting in Mark Richt having to open a season without his main offensive threat while Tressel got to arrange his team’s sanction so that it did the least harm. Life is unfair, as Jimmy Carter once said, but we already knew that.

No, what gobsmacked me this morning while reading about Tresselgate was the reply of E. Gordon Gee, president of the Ohio State University, when asked if he ever considered firing Tressel for what he’d done.

“No, are you kidding me?” Gee answered. “Let me be very clear. I’m just hoping the coach doesn’t dismiss me.”

Wow. I’m no Michael Adams booster, but I can’t even begin to imagine UGA’s president ever uttering such a spineless comment.

Meanwhile, the NCAA, which hasn’t exactly covered itself in glory as college football’s watchdog this past year, has a perfect example of its dreaded “lack of institutional control” sitting right out in the open in Columbus, Ohio, but they apparently can’t see it for the sweater-vest.

What a joke.

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229 comments Add your comment

LADawg

March 10th, 2011
9:17 am

The biggest cover up is being done by everyone who collects a paycheck, some in the millions, off of “student athletes. What a sham! Eliminate the NCAA, everyone admit that college football and basketball are minor league sports, and make college educations optional; if a player wants to go to class fine, if not, show up for practice and be ready to play on game day.

bill

March 10th, 2011
9:31 am

I remember when Clemson and Danny Ford got into trouble with the NCAA and the president stepped in . The Boosters and IPTAY jumped on the President and eventually he got a vote of no confidence anf QUIT. He would rather quit than admit the school thought more of the football team than the school itself. Some Colleges are just life support for the football team. When Louisville cleaned up their basketball program the two time national champion coach who learned to cheat under John Wooden told the school you could either have a great basketball team or scholastic requirements. At least he was honest about Louisville. Remember Tom Brookshire . He made a joke about the IQ of the Louisville Basketballl team and got fired. The trutyh will get you fired.

bill

March 10th, 2011
9:34 am

Tressel won at the 1AA level and he cheated and ran an outlaw program Youngstown State. OSU hired him anyway. They knew what they were getting. Might as well keep supporting him

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
9:42 am

GABuckeye,

Finally, reinforcements!

Let’s talk basketball, shall we? Ummmm, who’s the likely # 1 seed in the NCAA?

Who won the outright Big 10 Championship?

Who has more teams ranked in the Top 20?

Why is Howard (before I was Trey) and Co. the first four out according to some?

Questions to ponder before tip-off. I’ll be rooting for you, Howard ( before I was Trey), I’ll also be plotting tattoos on my high-def.

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
9:46 am

To those referencing Ohio as a dump, I note the current unemployment rate in metro Atlanta is 10.4%. The national rate is 8.9%. The rate in Columbus, Ohio is 8.3%. Got talk “dump” on Jimmy Carter or Chamblee Dunwoody.

DawginLex

March 10th, 2011
9:49 am

Lunardi now has UGA in the NCAA play in game

SE GA Fan

March 10th, 2011
9:51 am

@Nottingham
UGA didn’t make the top 25 for criminals playing football. Check the article and cover of SI.

george

March 10th, 2011
10:00 am

we all know the NCAA and conferece rules are made up as they go along anyway so just get over it. Remember when 32 classy players and coaches left the bench to fight in the Auburn game? Ya i guess you also forgot it could not be written any more clear that any player or coach that leaves the bench is to be supsended a game. The same could be said about the Cam newton case,dez bryant, the bruce pearl deal, and jim calhoun. I could go on and on.

Joel

March 10th, 2011
10:08 am

I agree with many of the comments about Ohio State. The punishment of A. J. Green was uncalled for. The NCAA postponement of the Ohio State players was clearly preferntial treatment, allowing OSU to have a chance at a bowl win.

As a Tennessee fan, I don’t condone what Bruce Pearl did. It was deplorable and should be condemned. UT imposed sugnificant penalties and the SEC imposed additional penalties, which I accept, and believe was fair. I will also accept whatever additional penalties the NCAA imposes. However, I will certainly be looking at how the NCAA treats OSU. However, I don’ see a big difference in what BP did and what Tressell did. Bruce pearl lied and impeded the NCAA investigation. Tressell lied, first by his inaction after learning of violations, and then actively by signing the form affirming that he knew of no violations, and then again by lying to his AD.

It could be argued that Tressell’s transgressions were worse since he knowingly allowed ineligible players to participate, while Pearl’s worst violations involved players alredy committed to Tennessee. If the Vols are hammered and OSU gets a pass, I will be outraged as should all SEC fans.

I will be wearing red & black when the Dawgsplay Ohio State!

I-DOG

March 10th, 2011
10:12 am

Damon:

You see the difference between Evans and Tressel, right? One guy was fired about a week after it happened despite the ink still being wet on the new contract he had just signed, but over at Ohio State, the president of the U. is concerned that Tressell might dismiss him and Tressel is given a measley 2 game suspension where OSU plays the little sisters of the poor in both games.

AJ Green deserved to be punished for selling his jersey for $1,000, but he got a 4 game suspension including 3 serious SEC Tilts, all of which were losses for UGA so it is certainly hard to argue that it didn’t hurt AJ and UGA very much. What will the NCAA do to OSU and their players for this institutional cover up? It will be interesting to see, but I’m guessing it will be a lot like the Cam Newton investigation… window dressing

Minnesota Dawg

March 10th, 2011
10:16 am

Have any of you seen Sports Illustrated’s column about college players with police records? Georgia is not even in the top 25!!!!! Guess who is? Florida, Alabama, LSU!!! I thankful for the coach we have. He’s the best!

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
10:21 am

GABuckeye,

Fact of Blog life on the AJC. It is always SEC vs. Ohio State. Is is never SEC vs. Big 10. It is rarely uga vs. Ohio State.

We give them credit for their lone bowl victory against us. Congratualtions. Hines Ward’s team, correct dawgs?

uga is a wannabee basketball program but nevermind, uga is not a “basketball school” and short of Kentucky, the SEC is not a “basketball” conference.

To their credit, uga is a perennial winner in women’s gymnastics and is having a good run with women’s softball this year.

Finally, with all due respect to Pollack and Eric Zeier, I wonder why guys like Herbstreit, Robert Smith, Chris Speilman and Clark Kellog are nationally prominant (Gameday, Final Four, ESPN) while we hear the uga alums on local AM radio?

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
10:24 am

Minnesota dawg,

Problem for uga is that you had to be ranked in the pre-season top 25 to be part of the study. You were not ranked in the pre-season Top 25.

GT fan with visitation rights

March 10th, 2011
10:26 am

Enter your comments here

GABuckeye

March 10th, 2011
10:33 am

Joel stated “If the Vols are hammered and OSU gets a pass, I will be outraged as should all SEC fans.”

This proves my point exactly!! Why should it be that only the SEC fans be outraged? Shouldn’t ALL sports fans be outraged? It’s not the SEC vs. the world and it most certainly isn’t the SEC vs. Ohio State. This “us against the world” mentality only seems to be on the shoulders of the teams that are losers in the SEC. Stop acting as if you are in the MAC conference and get no respect.

Tressel failed as a coach and as a leader in this situation. I personally believe he will either step down or be fired and he will deserve his fate.

Minnesota Dawg

March 10th, 2011
10:35 am

Ok Buckeye. My main point is that when Georgia had all those arrest of their players, other schools were bragging that their schools didn’t have problems like us! Maybe we will play the Buckeyes in a bowl. That would be fun.

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
10:50 am

Minnesota,

Unfortunately, as I posted previously, I suspect our next Bowl Game will be after the 2013 season.

What would be fun is to see uga play Minnesota in that fine new college stadium!

GABuckeye,

I don’t think he will be fired. I believe he will resign. Soon.

War Eagle

March 10th, 2011
11:04 am

Alabama has been on PROBATION AND HAD MORE HEAD COACHES THAN ANY SEC TEAM LAST 19 YEARS…Bama speaks with a forked tongue dawgs. They even kill 135 year old Oak Trees.

Buckeye

March 10th, 2011
11:21 am

FIRE MARK RICHT,

Let’s say he does ger fired. Who would you want?

Meyer?
Tressel?
Saban?
Spurrier?
Chizic?
Young Dooley?

John

March 10th, 2011
11:56 am

Or you could be like UGA’s last Athletic director and get a DUI with a hooker in his car.

Dawg Tired

March 10th, 2011
2:26 pm

GABuckeye – You are thinking too rationally. After that news conference where both Gee and Tressel came off pretty weakly, I will be surprised if he’s fired. I agree with you he should step down or be fired, but just don’t see it happening. Butm who knows, you may be right. We’ll see.

Dawg Tired

March 10th, 2011
2:31 pm

John – We actually fire people that do those things. Or does that fact get in the way of your pot shot? You obviously seem to have some difficulty comprehending the effect of taking action to get rid of the folks who should be fired as opposed to another university’s president actually laughing at the idea that a coach who has lied about infractions of the rules might be fired. Surely you see the difference?

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woebegong

March 11th, 2011
11:19 am

I went to 6 different OSU blogs this morning, and with the exception of one Auburn fan, I didn’t see a single SEC fan on them. I was curious as to whether I would see a lot of negative SEC comments, considering how much a UGA blog gets from the fans of different schools. Darn sure did see a lot of Michigan fans voicing their opion though, LOL. I guess 1-9 in head to head competition will do that. It sure seems like it does for GT fans on UGA blogs.
Perhaps that is why SEC fans get on a OSU fan coming onto their blog and critisizing the DAWGS so much. And before anybody uses the comment “It is a public newspaper blog and therefore I can say what I want”,: This blog is entitled “Junkyard Blawg”. Not buckeye, tide, gator, tiger, Tennessee, eagle or tech. blog.
Having said that, I wonder why this article is even on this blog other then to create traffic for this blog. The only other possible interest could be to show how OSU punishes it’s coaches for a major infraction, in proportion to how UGA punishes theirs. It is important to remember though, that the NCAA has not acted on it yet, so let’s take the wait and see approach.
I* am a little shocked though, in the student newspaper for OSU, calling for his head. I would think, in a matter so serious as this, OSU students and fans should rally around thier coach. I would guess that this speaks either, to how much integrity the folks have concerning their university, or simply seeing that they may have been betrayed, by one, they held in such esteem.
I hope this teaches some of the negative bloggers a lesson, especially when it concerns UGA transgression. I realize they were excessive, but let’s keep it in context. None of these arrest, or violations, were the result of a major crime, mostly being of the misdemeanor variety. I do not believe even these will be tolerated by the coaches or administration in the future at UGA.

GOOOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSSSSSS

Buckeye

March 11th, 2011
12:01 pm

Woe,

You missed “SEC in Columbus” on the Dispatch Blog.

Your logic regarding “junkyard” is flawed. As a Atlanta resident, Georgia taxpayer and a sports fan, I have every right to join the fray if I so choose. I call it as I see it, have fun with a jab, and serious if the situation calls for it.

For the record, I feel betrayed. Still loyal, but betrayed.

woebegong

March 11th, 2011
12:28 pm

Buckeye,

Wonder what the NCAA is gonna do with this? Are they going to try and make an example of OSU, because of the heavy critisism they have received because they are perceived to be uneven in thier punishment of different schools. Maybe they should publish a seperate, reward and crime list, publishing the penalty for violation X and Y for example. Then they would be able to thwart any complaining about being hard on one school and not on another.
You mean, there is an SEC fan in Ohio? LOL.

GOOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSSS

Buckeye

March 11th, 2011
2:19 pm

Woe,

Who knows. We’re screwed either way. Throw the book, we’re screwed. Go light, we’re screwed from a perception standpoint.

I’m still shaking my head this whole mess stems from the ( not illegal/criminal) act of freshman in 2009. No excuses for Tressel and forwarding the orginal email to his superiors. That said, I fear the penalty will not fit the crime – take that however you like – and the people that get screwed are the kids who had nothing to do with it and the fans like you and me.

See Leslie is stepping up today. Ohio State got by Northwestern. Not a good shooting day but we advance. Great Tar Heel finish too. Should be a great weekend.

woebegong

March 11th, 2011
4:17 pm

Buckeye,

I sure lost a lot of respect for him over this whole mess. I always thought he was a standup kinda guy, and then this takes place. My heart wants me to believe him, but my head tells me, my heart is wrong. As you can gather, I am not a buckeye fan, but I had to grudgingly admire how he seemed to get his kids to play at their highest level.It seems good, fair and decent college coaches are few and far between. There is very little doubt it is the big bucks causing the problem. Both the bucks for the coaches as well, as the bucks that can be made by a big school, in the NCAA.
Basketball tournament is going to be interesting this year. Could come down to maybe Ohio State and either N.C. or Duke. I never count coach K out until he loses. Got to admit though, I haven’t had a lot of time to watch it, since I am doing some woodwork now and I might go to a show or two, and see if I can make some extra bucks off it, if I do some more work. It is hard to do that because I have so many darn irons in the fire already.

Oh Well,
GOOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSSS

RMikel58

March 15th, 2011
6:53 am

Nottingham……… you been eating bean soup? Farting so much that you blew a vessel. Georgia voluntarily suspended AJ Green for 1 game unlike Jim Treschel he’s still breaking more violations because he thinks hes smarter than everyone else.
Remember those are the violations and lies he’s admitted to doing and not the other ones he’s still covering up. He hasnt come totally clean because he knows that if he did then half those players would be ineligable to play and he most assuredly would get fired.
This is about money and AD Director of Ohio State made comments to only confirm what i said. What a wuss “maybe he’d fire me” ………no backbone to this guy.
As far AJ Green goes……..this was a jersey he sold and not Lying to a NCAA Investigation. Apples for Apples i say. With AJ Green out that many games Mark Richt had no one that was of AJ talents…..hell no one in college for that matter could step up and take this guys place.
What if Alabama didnt have Julio Jones for 4 games? This changes everything in the scheme of how to run your offense. They didnt have time to figure out who was gonna take his place and perform the way AJ Green does.
Just like if Ohio State had lost their QB Pryor for 4 games are they ready? My guess is no. If he graduated early and entered the draft then they would have time to figure out things ahead of time but Georgia wasnt ready for all of this to happen nor would any program that lost this type of athlete.
You just like all the Ohio State Fans and Alumni dont really care if they break the NCAA Rules even if he admits to being a liar.
If he lied there then what else is he covering up? He has Ohio State eating out of his hands and laughing at how much POWER he has over the University. You guys care about nothing but winning even after the fact that he admits to LYING.
Mark Richt wasnt caught LYING to the NCAA and breaking numerous rules and violations to only get a 2 Game Suspension and a meager 250,000 fine.
Hell Jim Treschel can sit in his car outside the stadium on a cell phone and make calls while he watches the game.
The 250,000 fine….o.k,. so how do you not know that Treschel wont get a bonus this year to offset his fine? I’ll bet you those kiss ass AD in Ohio State have reassured him that he wont lose anything but that it will appear on paper he lost the money.
Tennessee, USC, got stiffer penalties to similar violations and got harsher fines but they admitted to it but Treschel admits to lying and gets a 2 game suspension……….ARE YOU KIDDING ME.
Youre an IDIOT if you think this is right because what AJ Green did compared to what Treschel did is miniscue.
This people is a typical OHIO STATE FAN that truely comes here making excuses for what Treschel did was O.K. but wants all of us Georgia Fans to know that its not near as bad as what AJ Green did.
GET A LIFE!