File the latest Ohio State absurdity under Believe It Or Not!

Jim Tressel apparently outranks Ohio State University's president. (Associated Press)

Jim Tressel apparently outranks Ohio State University's president. (Associated Press)

I’m sure I wasn’t the only colllege football fan left slack-jawed while reading about the latest scandal involving future UGA opponent Ohio State.

And I’m not talking about Jim Tressel being suspended for a measly two games and fined $250,000 by his school after it came out he’d conducted a massive cover-up last season of NCAA violations by five of his players — the same five Tressel lobbied the NCAA not to suspend until this season so he’d finally have a chance to get a win over an SEC team in a bowl game.

And my amazement wasn’t even due to the incredible disparity between the protracted, kid-gloves handling of the OSU investigation compared with the speedy hammering of A.J. Green by the NCAA for a similar infraction as committed by the Buckeye players, resulting in Mark Richt having to open a season without his main offensive threat while Tressel got to arrange his team’s sanction so that it did the least harm. Life is unfair, as Jimmy Carter once said, but we already knew that.

No, what gobsmacked me this morning while reading about Tresselgate was the reply of E. Gordon Gee, president of the Ohio State University, when asked if he ever considered firing Tressel for what he’d done.

“No, are you kidding me?” Gee answered. “Let me be very clear. I’m just hoping the coach doesn’t dismiss me.”

Wow. I’m no Michael Adams booster, but I can’t even begin to imagine UGA’s president ever uttering such a spineless comment.

Meanwhile, the NCAA, which hasn’t exactly covered itself in glory as college football’s watchdog this past year, has a perfect example of its dreaded “lack of institutional control” sitting right out in the open in Columbus, Ohio, but they apparently can’t see it for the sweater-vest.

What a joke.

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UGA Insider

March 9th, 2011
3:41 pm

This is just the beginnings of a spring and summer full of scandal and suspensions. Just wait until more is uncovered at AU, Oregon, UT and many many others. This is all just getting started from what I hear…..

Ohio?

March 9th, 2011
3:43 pm

The state of Ohio is gigantic DUMP. Ohio is the central figure in a part of the country that’s slowly dying day-by-day, which is why it’s commonly referred to as the rust belt. Nobody wants to move to Ohio, because it’s a toxic wasteland filled with empty factories reminiscent of the early American industrial revolution.

Even your native son Lebron James wanted to leave that hole. Ohio St. is becoming more and more irrelevant as most of the intelligent residents are leaving for the Sun Belt.

Please have your dreams of grandeur, but the fact is Ohio St. sucks and will continue to suck.

dawgster

March 9th, 2011
3:44 pm

I think its time that the presidents of some of these other Universities start looking at pulling out of the NCAA…Its become apparent that there is no consistancy in their rulings. It depends on who you are.. What a piece of crap they have become. I’m not against enforcement of the rules but at some point you have to wonder what the NCAA’s agenda actually is. Why are there so many inconsistancies in their rulings….

Jim Wright

March 9th, 2011
3:45 pm

Timmy Dog

March 9th, 2011
3:53 pm

Nice work Bill. You obviously posted this prior to the Ray Drew news breaking. Way to go.

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
3:58 pm

Jim, what are you doing? You shouldn’t post that link! That was the same event that CMR knew not to go to and I bet he knew the former dogs were going in his stead. Wait, that is a coverup! This willful coverup plus the revolving door at the Clarke Co. jail must mean a loss of institutional control. GIVE UGA THE DEATH PENALTY!!!!!

DawgByte

March 9th, 2011
4:00 pm

Timmy Dog – The Ray Drew story is a non-story. Moreover, it was reported to the Mike Slive by our AD. We didn’t wait for the NCAA to come knocking! Unlike Ohio St.

Chainshaw

March 9th, 2011
4:03 pm

Look at all of the Bullpuppy fans on here crowing about this. I guess if you can’t even win your division of your conference, at least you can make fun of another school who got in a little trouble. The fact remains that the one and only NC that you ever had is over 30 years old.

At least a Bama, Auburn, LSU, or Florida fan could claim to be looking down on OSU. Dawg fans just have to hope for a good scandal to bring others down to their basement view.

The NCAA will handle Tressel. He will get many more games off of the sidelines. None of this will make the UGA players any better or any less likely to get arrested.

THETA CHI

March 9th, 2011
4:04 pm

@buckeye4life. Did you get your education from an institution in Ohio, or did you just quit after 3rd grade? I have seen post from people from ALA. that have better grammer skills than you. By the way, what conference has won the most NC’s over the past decade? Just wondering.

THETA CHI

March 9th, 2011
4:09 pm

@chainsaw- is that your wresslin name or what? Hey, they call me chainsaw…… my real name is Elmer. This is a post for UGA, why are you on here? I guess because there is no wresslin at the civic center tonight, you got bored because you are a true Bama boy, wanted to make yourself feel better… one question for you why did Bama fans through a brick or rock through Coach Curry’s window when he was having a winning season?

DawgByte

March 9th, 2011
4:10 pm

Chainshaw -

People flock to this board the second we have bad news. Payback is rough, isn’t it?

Dander Bunderwhack

March 9th, 2011
4:12 pm

Ohio? -

That was a good one! You’re right the state of Ohio is a major DUMP!

supsalemgr

March 9th, 2011
4:13 pm

The most important thing to the NCAA is THEIR image. I have a feeling there are some folks there who are ready to make an example of some institutions. Who better than OSU and “Kid” Kiffin. They do not like their integrity and credibility being questioned as it is. I am sure there some interesting posts on the Michigan and Penn State boards about this.

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
4:13 pm

THETA: no comma required before the conjunction “or.” Post should be the plural, “posts.” The abreviation for Alabama is Al, not all uppercase ALA. One last thing, NC’s should be N.C.s, remember the periods and since it is plural and not possesive, an apostrophe is incorrect. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Jim Tressel's Sweater Vest

March 9th, 2011
4:18 pm

BUCKEYE4LIFE -

See Ohio?’s post about your wonderful state.

THETA CHI

March 9th, 2011
4:20 pm

@buckeye4life- When I was a child- ALA stood for Alabama, MISS stood for Mississippi, TENN stood for Tennessee, etc… so in essance I am correct, It should not be NC not N.C. you got me on the comma. Will you please answer my questions though?

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
4:27 pm

THETA, I did answer you. I will answer you again. No matter what or where you were taught as a child, ALA, MISS, TENN, etc.. are grammatically incorrect. By the way, you should have placed a comma after essance but not one after correct since you capitalized It. See if you can understand my answer this time. If not, maybe someone else will splain it to you.

savh dawg

March 9th, 2011
4:29 pm

Have you seen the crowds at OSU games? Grown men wearing jerseys. Enough said.

THETA CHI

March 9th, 2011
4:35 pm

@buckeye4life- I guess that the below passage pulled from the United States list of abbreviations is wrong as well-

The standard, or traditional, abbreviations, were widely used on mailing addresses and in other contexts before the two-letter postal abbreviations were introduced. Use the standard state abbreviations, with periods and spaces as shown, for all purposes other than postal addresses. The United States Post Office instituted two letter state abbreviations along with five digit zip codes in 1963. These postal abbreviations should only be used in mailing addresses. When abbreviating the name of a state in a mailing address, use uppercase letters, with no space between the letters.
Maybe you should google it- Also, you still have not answered where you received your education or what conference has won more championships.

Byt he way- I made grammatical errors for you since you now seem to be an English Major. Happy Hunting.

supsalemgr

March 9th, 2011
4:35 pm

Buckeye4life seems to be dealing in diversions from the matter at hand.

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
4:38 pm

savh dawg, what a brilliant observation as we all know that never is the case at Sanford stadium or any other SEC stadium. Did you just get home from middle school?
JTSV, Ohio, I saw it but I kept thinking about Ga being ranked in the bottom five of the country in public schools. 3 of the largest school systems are now or have been in trouble with SACS. Atlanta’s water system is in complete disarray including there not being enough water. The airport is being run by crooks. There are more Knick and Laker fans at Hawks games. Where should I stop before I tell you why I did not respond to Ohio?

Einsteindawg

March 9th, 2011
4:40 pm

News flash!!! It’s all about the money! Although many inept things, the NCAA is not stupid…they know the money makers.

Mike Connor

March 9th, 2011
4:42 pm

No the south is still dirtier because it killed Americans (patriotic Americans) to keep slavery.

Zoli

March 9th, 2011
4:44 pm

Where is Buckeye? The funny thing will be that THE Ohio State will still be 0fur against the SEC after all games from last year are vacated!

BrutusNutus

March 9th, 2011
4:45 pm

Buckeyes could sit those five players and still beat mighty 6-7 LOSERS UG-UG-UGA by two TD’s! BTW morons, this is just the OSU punishment, the NCAA is still thinking it over. Wait till 2020!

SEC fan

March 9th, 2011
4:47 pm

Bill King,
Will the media be invited to the official NCAA kissing of Tressel’s arse when a final ruling on this situation is announced?

BrutusNutus

March 9th, 2011
4:53 pm

SEC – Look for a big, fat contract extension coming soon for Mr Tressel. He made a bad decision, but he can still coach circles around Richt.

BUCKEYE4LIFE

March 9th, 2011
4:54 pm

Hey Zoli, what will Auburn’s record be after Camgate has been settled? Will UGA have more wins or arrests this year? Which lowly opponent will UGA lose to this year?

7576DAWG

March 9th, 2011
4:54 pm

Integrity , ethics as well as other values still mean a lot to UGA , the people in charge at UGA and the Alumni who control donations. If CMR ever let’s the players and the TV money dictate things instead of us doing the right thing I will pull my support and I hope the alumni will join me until we get people in place who will make us proud.
Having said that it is sad to see the Alumni base and their school’s governing body sitting on their butt’s at great colleges like Ohio State, Tennessee, Southern Cal, Auburn, and other’s school’s on the list who have developed WIN AT ANY COST ATTITUDE. I am embarrassed for them and all of college football. If the Governing body at each school, the NCAA and the Alumni base doesn’t start coming down hard on violators I hope CONGRESS will step in and save what values are left in college football. And if you knew me, Letting the Government do anything would absolutely be our last resort , one of being desperate. but I and I hope a lot more like me who love college football have just about had enough.

supsalemgr

March 9th, 2011
5:01 pm

Please 7576Dawg, the last people we need involved in this is the 535 idiots in Congress!

alphadog71

March 9th, 2011
5:06 pm

You have to consider the history of the program when judging these infractions. Ohio State has a relatively clean history, prior to Tattoo-gate. Few arrested active players, no robberies or girl friend beatings. Should this happen at the Athens Correctional Institute the book gets thrown, the coach and Prez Adams both go down.

4xtra

March 9th, 2011
5:08 pm

Let me tell you something …
I am from Ohio and a buckeye fan and that is the way it is in Ohio.
Ohio State Football is god in Columbus and you best believe they will not mess with coach Tress. He beats Michigan every year and that is all it matters. Coach T even covered Maurice Clarretts tail on his FIRST felony and it was TOTALLY swept under the rug and everyone knew but simply didnt say anything OUT LOUD. It was the secret everyone knew about.
The players drive around in $50k+ cars spend a fortune in strip clubs, and live a life of luxury. This has ALWAYS and will always be the “standard” in buckeye country. TRUST ME I went to Ohio State and could EASILY write a book on the things I PERSONALLY saw .

Terrelle Prior Conviction

March 9th, 2011
5:10 pm

So you think Mark Richt’s program is out of control? All the little things, and a few bigger things, but:
“In May of 2009, The Columbus Dispatch reported that since 2000, Ohio State had reported to the NCAA more than 375 violations — the most of any of the 69 Football Bowl Subdivision schools that provided documents to the newspaper through public-records requests. Most of the infractions were minor and resulted in little or no punishment.”

ESPN.com

bamaguy

March 9th, 2011
5:26 pm

While the media was obsessed with what Cam Newton did and did not know and with how many players Nick Saban was signing to scholarships, this guy was quietly, and with intent, covering up known major NCAA violations. Under that nice guy veneer, he is slime.

7576DAWG

March 9th, 2011
5:40 pm

Dawg Tired

March 9th, 2011
5:44 pm

This is too easy! If the NCAA does not come down major big time hard on The Ohio State University they should just close their offices and go fishing. The Ohio State University’s head football coach and, apparently the man whom the president of The Ohio State University reports to, knowingly played ineligible players the entire season, covered the clear violations up, and then lied about it. This can not be defended nor tolerated. The ball is now squarely in the NCAA’s court. Let’s see what they do.

7576DAWG

March 9th, 2011
5:54 pm

Supsalemgr
That is why I said it is a last resort ,desperate thing to do , but if it will clean up college football I’m all for it.
I’m tired of the do nothing wimps of the NCAA and the governing body of the individual schools not doing what’s right and them looking the other way.
4xtra
I’m not singling out Ohio State , this problem is wide spread . I just want something done because I love college football and it’s about to be labeled a dirty business.

ACE

March 9th, 2011
5:55 pm

The NCAA has been doing this for years. How about Callipari? Or Petino for that matter? Callipari has had two NCAA final fours erased from the books

Ohio St. cheaters

March 9th, 2011
5:56 pm

OHIO ST. WILL BE 0 – 10 AGAINST SEC TEAMS .

bamaguy

March 9th, 2011
5:58 pm

Other schools have been slammed for “lack of institutional control.” Wonder what the penalty is for “intentional institutional deceit?”

Dawg Tired

March 9th, 2011
6:06 pm

When the guy in the highest position of authority in The Ohio State University covers up known infractions and then lies about them to the NCAA surely something harsh is coming down the pike.

Wonder what Kirky Herbie will say?

TopDawg

March 9th, 2011
6:15 pm

Don’t cast the first stone unless…Be careful with such articles since everyone in Dawg nation except apparently the Athletic Department knew who was going to be at Drew’s signing on signing day. We have a little dust and spiderwebs within our own team. Point is not to relish the misfortune of others, EVER. Let’s just try to keep our own dawghouse clean and let the others worry about their own mess.

Old Dawg

March 9th, 2011
6:35 pm

What do you expect, the Big 10 is an academic conference?

andy in Macon

March 9th, 2011
6:35 pm

Nottingham, Bugs, and other assorted UGA haters: Pitt led the NCAA in arrests–UGA wasn’t even mentioned in the latest SI mag on arrests in NCAA football. Traffic tickets really aren’t mentioning!

GR82BAG8R

March 9th, 2011
6:36 pm

Bill, you are wrong. There is plenty of institutional control at THE Ohio State University. That control is the head football coach. Even the president of THE Ohio State University is afraid of him.

andy in Macon

March 9th, 2011
6:36 pm

aren’t worth mentioning–sorry

andy in Macon

March 9th, 2011
6:38 pm

TopDawg–that would be a nonstory anywhere else!

GR82BAG8R

March 9th, 2011
6:38 pm

TopDog, I believe the UGA folks in attendance believed the kid had already signed.

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GR82BAG8R

March 9th, 2011
6:51 pm

Hopefully opposing teams bands next year will play the Fantasy Island theme for the Buckeyes – - all the students can point to the sky and say “The plane The plane”.