Moving Ogletree leaves a big question mark in Dogs’ secondary

The move of Alec Ogletree to linebacker leaves a big question mark at safety. (Associated Press)

The move of Alec Ogletree to linebacker leaves a big question mark at safety. (Associated Press)

The personnel moves announced Thursday in Athens cleared up some questions and raised others that will linger well into August and possibly on into the season.

Not surprisingly, defensive coordinator Todd Grantham is already counting on recently signed JUCO player John Jenkins to plug the middle at nose guard, meaning DeAngelo Tyson moves to his more natural position at defensive end. That’s good for the pass rush.

The most notable switch, though, is Alec Ogletree going from the safety spot he won late last season to inside linebacker, which will allow Jarvis Jones, the much heralded transfer from Southern California, to play outside linebacker.

This ups the speed quotient considerably at the depleted linebacker position and, as Grantham said, moves “two guys that can make plays closer to the ball. Kind of around the action a bit more.”

That sounds good, but the departure of Ogletree from safety leaves Bacarri Rambo as the one starter there and opens the other spot up to a battle between Jakar Hamilton and Shawn Williams, both of whom competed for the spot last year, along with redshirt freshman Marc Deas. Hamilton initially won the starter’s job but was pretty much a bust and eventually lost out to freshman Ogletree, who got burned a couple of times due to inexperience but generally was a much more solid performer. Hamilton briefly was moved to cornerback.

Grantham said Hamiton, Williams and Deas “are going to get their opportunity in the spring to show us what they can do with the system and how productive they can be.”

You’ve got to wonder if Grantham’s not seeing these guys as placeholders until some of the new freshman signees who arrive in August get the chance to show what they can do. Corey Moore and Chris Sanders both were signed as safeties, and while versatile Nick Marshall is penciled in at cornerback (and expected to get some time at receiver as well as returning kicks), he has experience playing safety as well. And, who knows, maybe if celebrated signee Malcolm Mitchell wows Grantham enough to demand some playing time at one of the corners, where Brandon Boykin and Sanders Commings currently are projected as the starters, one of the other cornerbacks might wind up moving to the safety corps.

The bottom line is that the signing of Jenkins and Grantham’s moves appear to be a good step toward shoring up the middle of the Georgia defense, which was weak last year. But the secondary remains suspect.

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113 comments Add your comment

Inspector G

March 4th, 2011
10:39 am

First, maybe

John

March 4th, 2011
10:40 am

Tide roll

March 4th, 2011
10:41 am

Sanders Commings to safety, Brandon Smith to corner?

Tide roll

March 4th, 2011
10:43 am

Bean Anderson and Kenarious Gates at offensive guard, Cordy Glenn and Sturdivant at tackles and you win the SEC.

Inspector G

March 4th, 2011
10:43 am

One time I saw Matthew Stafford single-handedly thwart a robbery of the Pita Pit by singing ‘Total Eclipse of the Heart’ (The Dan Band Addition). The robber’s were so anxious to make sure they hit the ‘f’ notes in the lyrics that they forgot all about the robbery and left carrying out only 2 Chicken Craves that were satisfying to say the least. The left Sgt Owens of Athens-Clarke Co Police Dept to know refer to good samaritans as ‘good Staffords’. Sgt Owens took Matt out to Amicis where they split some Buffalo Chicken Garcheemar and reportdedly they still share texts to this day.

42-34 Dawgs STILL Run This Street

March 4th, 2011
10:45 am

I agree Bill – Hamilton and Rambo definitely have to step up their games.

I look for CTG’s defense to bounce back this season, especially on third and forever.

jaglaw

March 4th, 2011
10:50 am

I just hope these guys find a position by fall ball. I do agree, if BOBO cant find a way to get B. Smith the ball in space, but him at corner and leave him there.
Commings could be a solid “lock down” corner, likewise with Boykin. Hope we can find a REAL safety by fall.
I am excited about this year’s defense. Hey, even Bama went 6-6 the first year under Saban.

AltamahaDawg

March 4th, 2011
10:50 am

“pretty much a bust” seem a tad harsh.

Macclenny_dawg

March 4th, 2011
10:53 am

Get a pass rush and the secondary will be fine!!! The Qb must go down and must go down Hard!!!

jaglaw

March 4th, 2011
10:54 am

So is Jarves Jones replacing Houston’s position as pass rusher???

ugaclassof2004

March 4th, 2011
10:55 am

As the Ole’ saying goes ” Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, three times is a trend”

2008: Blowout loss to Florida and Bama, and upset by Tech
2009: Blowout losses to UT and Florida, upset loss to Kentucky
2010: Upset loss to Colorado, and finished with 6-7 record.

Rome is burning folks. I’m getting out of the city.

ugaclassof2004

March 4th, 2011
10:59 am

@jaglaw

“Hey, even Bama went 6-6 the first year under Saban.”

The operative word being FIRST season. Who cares how you do in your first season! Going 6-6 in your first season means you’re rebuilding . Going 6-6 in your TENTH season means things are falling apart.

JAWJeRDAWG

March 4th, 2011
11:02 am

I’ve got faith that CTG knows how to structure our new defensive scheme around the best players we have / will have by fall. Spring practice and the incoming freshman class this summer and pre-season August camp will give our coaches a good look at what we have on defense, and enable them to get the right players in their best position.

Hopefully by the beginning of 2011 season, we’ll find we have some players who will have learned our new defensive scheme, can play it aggressively, benefit greatly from our new S&C program, and give us some depth that UGA has lacked for the past couple of years where we can compete successfully for four quarters of football … Go Dawgs!

Jim

March 4th, 2011
11:04 am

ugaclassof2004: “Rome is burning folks. I’m getting out of the city.”

Don’t let the screen door hit you on your way out.

Vladdy

March 4th, 2011
11:11 am

Altamaha….he was/is a bust. Nevver lived-up to “”Hit-Man” nickname.
The other noticeable event here is the continued distrust in Samuel (another “bust”). All the talk last fall that Samuel was “killing it” on the scout team….come on, really? It should be obvious now that TG will play Samuel sparringly. What is frightening is another year of pathetic saftey play upcoming – Rambo can’t do it, Williams can’t do it and would suspect Deas can’t do it. None of the 185 lb frosh will do it either…not in the SEC. Can you say deep ball toast toast?

OkieDawg

March 4th, 2011
11:12 am

September 3 can’t get here fast enough. I’m liking all these moves and when you look at the holes, there are a lot of quality names in the mix to fill them. And there is plenty of experience and talent on the offensive line. I think Crowell, Malcome and Ealey are going to have a great year. I hope King gets his academics together and can join the group. Get the running going, and Coach Bobo’s play calling will make him look like the Comeback Coach of the year. CMR probably watched a re-run of the Colorado and UCF games and decided he can’t take anymore of that stuff.

Athens= God's Country

March 4th, 2011
11:15 am

Can we please refrain from calling first year players at UGA a “bust?”

Busts: Marquise Elmore, Bryan Evans, Prince Miller.

Jakar will be fine, Bill.

TrueDawgFan

March 4th, 2011
11:15 am

So where do they have richard samual playing inside or outside?

sturn

March 4th, 2011
11:17 am

I think this could be a great move. When Mike Smith took over for the Falcons he stated how the defense needs to be built from the inside out. This appears to be what TG is doing. With Jenkins coming in and locking up the ILB’s. Remember we have sume stud DB’s coming in this year, TG must expect one of them to contribute.

AthensDAWG

March 4th, 2011
11:19 am

ugaclassof2004…. Go ahead and get out of town, change your user name to something else that disassociates you with UGA, and jump on the bandwagon with another team!

RxDawg

March 4th, 2011
11:23 am

I trust the coaches and all, but on the surface I really don’t like this move. Other than Rashad Jones, we’ve really missed a great player at safety for the past few years. Olgletree looked like he was ready to step right in and lock it up for the next 2 years (figured he’s off to the NFL).

I-DOG

March 4th, 2011
11:29 am

Wow, that is a lot of change. I am more concerned about the safety play for the coming season than any other position. I’m sure these guys were giving it their all, but I thought Jakar H. looked like he was not ready for Division 1 football in the Colorado game and didn’t seem to contribute much after it. Rambo just hasn’t come close to living up to his recruiting hype yet and though very athletic doesn’t seem to have any kind of football instincts. I don’t have anything against these two guys and I hope they both prove me wrong and make first All SEC. We have a lot of talented safety types coming into this recruiting class, so there will be some options.

I-DOG

March 4th, 2011
11:33 am

I kind of agree with Tide Roll on those four offensive line spots. I can’t believe I just typed that! I’m sure he will want Chris Burnette to start at center in place of Ben Jones or are you finally sold that Jones is a pretty darn good center?

McDawg

March 4th, 2011
11:36 am

i like moving ogletree but concerned about size and i think S. Williams will do a decent job-commings could move around he is pretty versatile

i’ll let the coaches coach

rural dawg

March 4th, 2011
11:38 am

Anyone other than me notice the gt idiot in the photo has Ogletree by the facemask?? I don’t remember, but it problably wasn’t a penalty because the UGA guy didn’t do it…….

RxDawg

March 4th, 2011
11:42 am

“i’ll let the coaches coach”

Yep

Arthur Redding, Jr.

March 4th, 2011
11:42 am

Grantham and the other defensive coaches are moving a lot closer to shaping the defense to fit their scheme. Last year was pretty much a patch work year.

Alec Ogletree’s potential is so high, you find the position that best serves his skills. He was a little slow on pass coverage–but he’ll be a speedy, hard-to-block linebacker. By fall, he should be up to 235-240 lbs. and he’s a hitter.

Jarvis Jones looked great in practices and is going to be a force on the outside.

The defensive backfield is definitely the concern. Hamilton was certainly a disappointment. Boykin is a corner, not a safety–but Cummings could play safety.

And the new DB recruits are among the best in the country. (Malcolm Mitchell is probably to be given a chance to get a lot of playing time at wide receiver.)

With Big John Jenkins anchoring the line, UGA fans have good reasons to expect genuine improvements in the defense. Mark Richt could have a defensive that only allows 16 points-per-game, not 23 or 24. That translates into at least 3 more wins next year, maybe more.

Shawn

March 4th, 2011
11:48 am

A lot of first year players look foolish in their first year as a safety. Look at the lack of first year starters at safety in the NFL. It is one of the most complicated positions on the field. I am more comfortable with these guys getting their second year going into this new system. If we bring the heat to the QB like I think CTG is going to, it will make the safeties job easier. We will be fine. GATA!

nostrodamus

March 4th, 2011
11:58 am

Rashard Jones??? Great safety??? lol

georgia87

March 4th, 2011
12:07 pm

Nick Saban has never made it to his tenth season. We have no idea of what he would or would not do. But there is no doubt: the longer you are at a school, the harder it is.

kb

March 4th, 2011
12:16 pm

From the time he signed at Georgia many thought Ogletree would out grow the safety position. Swann played some safety in the Army all America game and looked good so he may be in the rotation.
look for Williams , Rambo, Deas rotation.

RxDawg

March 4th, 2011
12:22 pm

“Rashard Jones??? Great safety??? lol”

Best one we’ve had since Thomas Davis. Other than that botched tackle during our 1 Tech loss of the decade, how else was Rashad a bad safety?

Ted Striker

March 4th, 2011
12:32 pm

Give the guy more than one year before you label him a bust. Just saying.

Here is how he was bad

March 4th, 2011
12:38 pm

Arm tackles, flying seagull tackles and simply out of position Rashad Jones always seemed to be.
His one decent to good game was a “I will show em” thing vs GT in 09. Too little and too late. He actually said that he was tired of reading how lousy he was, so he did play decently vs GT. What is he doing now?

Delta Flight Attendant

March 4th, 2011
12:39 pm

Sounds a lot like re-arranging the decks chairs on the Titanic now don’t it? It will not stop the ship from sinking, but it can’t be said the coaches are not trying something.

UGADawg83

March 4th, 2011
12:42 pm

Better than average effort today Bill. Good analysis and no comments from your brother or buddies. Maybe you ate out to show that your are not a “bust” as a blogger.

UGADawg83

March 4th, 2011
12:44 pm

Should have said “are” out instead of “ate” out.

The KEY in 2011

March 4th, 2011
12:44 pm

UGA needs to STOP the belly series like SC used on us up our gut and they need to sack the QB.

If UGA can greatly improve these two areas and thirdly, RUN the ball for 125+ per game, they can win 9 or 10. Folks, these hallmarks of UGA football were badly missing in 2010.

Change the above weaknesses and UGA will be fine. In 2010 with the above, we would have defeated SC, Colorado and MSU, Arkansas and probably Florida. In the Florida game, Aaron Murray did choke badly, however.

Go Dogs.

mgdawg

March 4th, 2011
12:49 pm

Both safety positions are suspect, rambo at times plays like he is still in high school watching receivers catch balls instead of going after them and assuming that someone else is going to make the play instead of stepping up in case they miss. Hopefully he has grown up, as far as jakar, I know him and while he is a good athlete, he really isn’t that good of a football player. Hopefully I’ll be proved wrong.

Mark (another one)

March 4th, 2011
1:10 pm

Rashad Jones was rated as either the 3rd or 4th best safety in last year’s draft. He was drafted in the fifth round by the Dolphins, and had 18 tackles, 1 sack and 1 interception. I am glad people feel he was a bust in college. Miami doesn’t think so.

I won’t substitute my opinion for coach Grantham’s. He is seeing the players on a regular basis and knows how they are developing. Ogletree was a big safety. With a year’s training he may have gained a few pounds of muscle, allowing him to move to the inside backer position. With his speed, playing at the level of the defense may enable him to be near the top in tackles in ‘11.

The big move for me is seeing what Tyson can do at end. Getting the big guy in the middle is almost like getting two new starters for one signing. Having Tyson in the middle was not taking advantage of his speed, but he was our best option last year. Jenkins may have a huge impact by allowing Tyson to shift out.

ugab

March 4th, 2011
1:19 pm

Change!! We need the coaches to step up or get out of Athens. We need players to stay out of trouble on and off the field. We need Senior leadership. It sounds like we are mixing players up again. Just like every year!! Alabama has players fall into place after losing a player. MR was made by Mikey Andrew’s DEFENSE. DEFENSE wins ball games. If a player is changing positions, he needs to have a hell of a off season. Coaches need to get off their asses on the off season.

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Vladdy

March 4th, 2011
1:40 pm

R Jones was one of the misfits (P Milla & B Evans) that anchored one of the WORST defensive backfields UGA has ever fielded. No question…no doubt!

RxDawg

March 4th, 2011
1:46 pm

“What is he doing now?”

Ummm… only playing in the NFL. What a bum I tell ya. O.o

DAWGS forever

March 4th, 2011
1:50 pm

Like the moves. O probably outgrew the secondary and he needs to be near the line of scrimage to make plays.

I agree this opens up concern for the secondary for sure. Looking forward to the new kennel of DAWGS coming in. Go DAWGS!

Dream Season now that Dream Team is in place!

Dawg Tired

March 4th, 2011
1:54 pm

we will not be an elite defense if Hamilton and Rambo play safety.

stevo

March 4th, 2011
2:02 pm

Our safties will be Rambo and Commings. Commings has a safety body anyway. I think he stands at 6′2″ which is more than adequate size to get the job done and he has corner speed. I anticipate a much improved defense in 2011. Only time will tell.

chilidawg

March 4th, 2011
2:42 pm

Two big question marks. I sure hope that the coaches are keeping this competition wide open. The best player should play, period. No more rewarding a guy for hanging around the program for three or four years.

UGASlobberknocker

March 4th, 2011
2:44 pm

Rashad Jones was and is a very good player who was never utilized properly and never improved while at UGA. The fact that he is in the NFL anyway should tell you something.

gbal

March 4th, 2011
2:45 pm

Stay away from this one DOGINLEX – Good boy.

gbal

March 4th, 2011
2:51 pm

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Lagdawg

March 4th, 2011
3:01 pm

Corey Moore will probably be starting at one ot the Safety spots by the third game. The moves sound solid. Now all we have to do is get the WRs to step up and the OL to play meaner.

DawginLex

March 4th, 2011
3:06 pm

gbal,

I post the list for the trolls to save time and energy. If you are not a troll, ignore it.

For the trolls, it is my way of going green on the blogs.

To the topic at hand, Bill your headline is totally wrong. How can it leave a void when he didn’t do very well back there? He got burned repeatedly against Auburn and had the go ahead TD sail straight over his head after cheating up and getting burned.

How is that leaving a void?

Seems to me he can put on a little weight and use his speed to slobberknock some folks at linebacker.

Big Earl

March 4th, 2011
3:12 pm

I like it!!! Looks to me like Coach Grantham is wanting more speed on the field. This will allow our super fast LB’s, especially in the middle, to attack, attack, attack!!! No more sitting back waiting for the other team to dictate the tempo to us…it’s time for us to dictate to them.

The SEC used to be all about who could run the ball, but much like the NFL, it’s now a passing league. In your base scheme, you need at least 3 of your 4 DB’s to actually be CB’s. The FS is really your 3rd CB. Looks to me like that’s what coach is going for.

Without some freshman sensation coming in and showing that he has to play (high hopes for Ray Drew and Malcom Mitchell) I see the following opening day depth chart. SPEED EVERYWHERE!

CB Branden Boykin/Malcom Mitchell
CB Branden Smith/Jordan Love
CB/FS Sanders Cummings/Shawn Williams
SS Nick Williams/Baccari Rambo
OLB Jarvis Jones/Ray Drew
OLB Cornelius Washington/Ray Drew
ILB Christian Robinson/Richard Samuel
ILB Alec Ogletree/Richard Samuel
DE DeAngelo Tyson/Garrison Smith
DE Abry Jones/Garrison Smith
NG John Jenkins/Kwame Geathers

Skitty Fritty

March 4th, 2011
3:13 pm

Don’t forget about Richard Samuel next year at the LB position.

Ceasar

March 4th, 2011
3:24 pm

Bill, what do you think of the “brither ” question? It’s beginning to grt wings!!!

DawgByte

March 4th, 2011
3:25 pm

Rambo and Hamilton make Prince Miller look good, which is next to impossible. All three are total Flounder Spanks and will be pressed hard by the incoming talent.

I like the move to middle linebacker for Ogletree. Alec now needs to add 10-15 lbs. of muscle now. I think Ray Drew will give Washington a run for his money at Outside LB.

collegeballfan

March 4th, 2011
3:26 pm

“Moving Ogletree leaves a big question mark in Dogs’ secondary…”

So where would you rather have your question mark, close or kinda away from the line of scrimmage?

DawgByte

March 4th, 2011
3:27 pm

Ooopppsss, Prince Miller is no longer on the team. I must have been having a nightmare!!!

(((41-14)))

Contractor

March 4th, 2011
3:28 pm

Maurice Clarett also played in the NFL, so don’t act like Reshad Jones is King of the Universe and such an awesome player. He was only worried about a knock out hit, not the ball, hence why our secondary never had a deep safety and got burnt all the time. He would sure lay the wood on anyone, but his coverage skills were not that of the 5 star recruit he was labeled, or the D-1 safety he played.

Reginald

March 4th, 2011
3:30 pm

Good ole “Bi tc chin Bill”. Always got to find something to complain about. If I was Richt or McGarity I’d ban you from the stadium until the AJC fired you.

Athens= God's Country

March 4th, 2011
3:45 pm

The best Safety at UGA since Thomas Davis was Greg Blue. End of discussion. Reshad sucked at Georgia. He was definitely one of the bad apples.

Let dem coaches coach yall.

rex

March 4th, 2011
3:52 pm

Greg Blue had a great game against West Virginia. He was in position to make a play almost half the time.

LawDawg

March 4th, 2011
3:54 pm

Watching Ogletree in the second half of last season, LB seems likely to be a more natural fit for him. He was not exactly great in coverage, but he is good in the running game. Tyson at DE should also be a big improvement. Starting to get excited.

RxDawg

March 4th, 2011
3:56 pm

“The best Safety at UGA since Thomas Davis was Greg Blue.”

I knew there would be somebody…

Simply put, your wrong just wrong.

LawDawg

March 4th, 2011
3:56 pm

Sean Jones was probably better than Blue, but Blue was great. I still remember when he filled in for SJ, who was injured, and laid a sick hit that made SJ start jumping and waiving his uninjured arm.

TD is the best safety in UGA history, and probably top-10 all-time in the SEC.

harleydawg

March 4th, 2011
3:57 pm

man on man i was so sick of reshad dropping pics, it had to be well over 10 in his career, he wont last long down in miami

LawDawg

March 4th, 2011
3:58 pm

I really hope our safeties make progress. Neither of the Williams nor Rambo were any good last year. Other than OL, that was probably the weakness of the team.

DIT

March 4th, 2011
4:21 pm

Best UGA safety – Terry Hoage!

Hairy Perry

March 4th, 2011
4:33 pm

I have a feeling this will be a special year in Athens, the trolls will still hang out on our blog, coming up with new one liners so get used to it.

Shawn

March 4th, 2011
4:38 pm

I made statements about how rare it is for a rookie to start at safety in the NFL but Reshad started in Miami by the end of last season and his coaches rave about his potential. He was and still is a stud athletically but did not get mentored very well by CWM. He would have helped his draft status if he would have stayed 1 more year and gotten some quality coaching by CSL and CTG. Nonetheless, he will be a pro bowler in Miami for years to come. Mark it down! As far as the Dawgs safety issues next year, I think they will be a non issue with the pass rush you see next year. Our new defensive scheme will bring the heat and force mistakes. If you want proof just check the difference in the TO ratio after the first year of the new system. Stop whining and get ready for the winning!

Hairy Perry

March 4th, 2011
4:40 pm

People come on this blog and act like we are crazy because we think Georgia can have a big year. It was’t long ago we were winning the SEC. These people know the dogs will be strong. They are just getting their kicks in while they can. We will be doing the same thing to them.

Shawn

March 4th, 2011
4:41 pm

BTW, I cannot wait to see ‘Tree play LB. He would absolutely light people up in the run game LY. LB will be a natural fit for him with his size and speed!

Hairy Perry

March 4th, 2011
4:41 pm

Shawn,

That’s the kind of attitude we need. GO DAWGS!

Too Easy

March 4th, 2011
4:46 pm

I’m thinking that with a better defense up closer to the ball, the QBs won’t have time to strike long. Could be wrong, though.

Too Easy

March 4th, 2011
4:47 pm

More concerned about fake punts.

Shawn

March 4th, 2011
4:50 pm

My thoughts too! This D is going to get in peoples faces!

MDG

March 4th, 2011
4:53 pm

Best UGA safety= Scott Woerner

name one celebrated TG defense

March 4th, 2011
4:59 pm

that would make me feel alot better about this

Delta Stewardess

March 4th, 2011
5:08 pm

Best Defense is a ball control offence.

TopDawg

March 4th, 2011
5:36 pm

Great moves!!! We will win the EAST just wait and see and be a top 10 program in 2011. Way too much talent on hand and the weakness of the SEC East begs us to step up. Likely only Bama and LSU are similar to us in talent the only difference has been coaching. Sad to say that LSU has the better coaches but just maybe Richt has awaken and Grantham appears headed in the right direction. Pray our QB stays healthy.

Einsteindawg

March 4th, 2011
5:59 pm

Jakar “Hitman” Hamilton = Bryan “4.3″ Evans. Rambo hasn’t been anywhere near the same since his injury. I think our freshmen will help.

bob K in NC

March 4th, 2011
6:01 pm

How about Damian Swann 6-0, 170 lbs. One of the top players in the country. Could play either cornerback or safety in college. Excellent speed. Forty yard dash: 4.49 secs, bench max: 185, squat max: 260, shuttle: 4.2, vertical: 31 inches. How about Devin Bowman 6-0, 175 lbs. One of the top athletes is the state. Either could play Safety or CB. Damian give us more speed then most of the others and better ball skills

KB

March 4th, 2011
6:19 pm

If UGA can’t stop the run between the tackles then all else on defense is a mute point. If we have to take a hit at safety in order to stop another “Georgia Tech” from averaging 7-8 yards per carry then we will be better on d’fense.

Vladdy

March 4th, 2011
6:28 pm

bob K….are you nuts? 170 lb safety? 185 lb bencher? Dude, no disrespect, but you are wayyyy removed from big time college football. D-1 ballers at safety are north of 6-0′ and 200 lbs+. Could you imagine a kid that puts up 185 lbs on the bar stopping 230 lb RB…or defending a 6-5 265 TE….come on, man!

jalexan49

March 4th, 2011
6:36 pm

Somebody in the mix will step up as a safety and that will be the guy. If these guys coming in can play as advertised and the current team members will start living up to their individual ratings coming out of high school this could be a good year.

Personally I would love to see someone who maybe isn’t expected to be much of a contributor step up and claim a starting role with their performance. I would love to see a couple of the lesser known rb’s get into the mix and contribute. It would be awesome to have a beavy of studs running the ball and wearing down opposing defenses.

Best of luck in 2011 and forward….

SOUTHGADAWG88

March 4th, 2011
6:41 pm

Williams played just as good as Ogletree IMO.Tree has a bigger upside as a player but Shawn Williams should have started over Hamilton out of the gate.

chattanoogadawg

March 4th, 2011
7:39 pm

Big Earl: That was a great post, well thought out and researched. I’m not a football coach, but those of you who dog Prince Miller and Reshad Jones, you clearly don’t know the game. Ask the NFL, where both landed. If that’s a “bust,” I’m all for it. What it really brings into question, is quality of coaching in Athens? Needs improvement, imho. For the record, I see Shawn Williams and Rambo. SW can play. BR, good athlete..and with proper coaching and trust that someone has his backside…he’ll do just fine. I think Commings stays at CB. Somebody has to cover these monster receivers on the edge. 2011 will bring some smiling faces and warm fuzzies back in the Classic City.

athdog..the original

March 4th, 2011
8:25 pm

Rambo hasn’t been the same since the hit year before last against AllBurn. Maybe one of those shots that it takes a while to get past. Perhaps this year we see improvement in his tenacity, and ‘HitMan’ will live up to his hype. Note: Juco players, Jakar Hamilton, Mount Cody, Fairley at Auburn, usually don’t do much their first year. The size and speed of SEC players takes a bit to get used to. Remember that when watching John Jenkins this coming season.

You're gonna . . . choke!

March 4th, 2011
8:26 pm

My projected starting defensive roster:
CB — Boykin
CB — Commings
Nickel — Smith*
FS — Rambo
SS — S. Williams
SOLB — J. Jones
WOLB — C. Washington
ILB — Robinson
ILB — Ogletree
DE — Tyson
DE — A. Jones
NT — Jenkins

The only positions–as they are now–that really seem SET are those on the D-line and Boykin at corner. Not saying that Ogletree won’t remain a LB, but he might end up at OLB. J. Jones might get moved back to ILB.

Yes, we’re in a bit of trouble at safety. Hamilton, regardless of whether or not you feel he was a bust, was largely ineffective. Although, I think it’s fair to call him a bust; if you don’t want to be labeled a bust, either play lights out, or don’t anoint yourself the “HITMAN.”

Rambo has always shown promise and is definitely a starter at safety. While Commings could indeed make a good safety, his size is needed at corner. B. Smith is a great corner . . . in a 4-3. He’s definitely the go-to man in nickel, but 5′11″ and 170 lbs is not going to be particularly effective w/ the press in our base coverage. Lucky for him, w/ all of the spreads we see, we’re almost always in nickel coverage anyway.

While Ogeltree’s move to LB is a net positive for the corps, C. Robinson still remains a starter. He may be a “leader” on the field, but–sorry–the guy just isn’t that good. Soft. Missed tackles. Weighs less than 220 in a 3-4. Prototypical ILB size in a 3-4 is at least 240. Marcus Dowtin–Mr. Missed Tackle Himself–had more tackles than Robinson last season, w/o seeing the field NEARLY as often as Robinson. I don’t understand this, at all. I really hope Samuel develops into a starter. Not second-guessing the coaches on starting Robinson. I just hope that by the time Fall rolls around, UGA have a better option.

As far as the convo a/b best safeties since T.Davis, don’t forget Tra Battle. Arguably better than Blue, even at 170 lbs. Mean as cat$*%!.

Over and Out.

You're gonna . . . choke!

March 4th, 2011
8:38 pm

Based on his past experience as a QB, his insane athletic ability, and his height, I could see Nick Marshall coming in and claiming the starting corner spot opposite Boykin; this could open things up to move Commings to FS. Swann might be able to do the same thing, but I think Marshall’s collective HS experience will lessen the learning curve for him. Corey Moore will at least begin the season in the safety rotation, possibly starting by the end of the year.

N. Williams will continue to get d***ed over by the coaching staff; it is unwise to continue moving him back and forth b/w SS and LB. I know that depth becomes a concern from time to time, but that is so short-sighted. If he had remained at 1 position and had been allowed to develop physically, he would be a heck of a player now. Athleticism and versatility are only part of the equation. Stop cross-training him so much and let him commit to a posiiton!

You're gonna . . . choke!

March 4th, 2011
8:46 pm

Ray Drew will get many reps at OLB, but I don’t think he overtakes C.Washington. Once it clicks for Washington, he’s going to be lights-out. He’s built for this position. Great size 6′4″ 250 and crazy speed (although not the 4.2 that coaches claim . . . absurd). But at most, he’s definitely a legit 4.5.

Don’t forget a/b TJ Stripling. Hopefully, he’ll have recouped from his knee injury and put on another 15 lbs of muscle. 6′6″ and 230 lbs will be serviceable at OLB, but after another season of developing, he’ll be a terror off the edge.

T-DAWG

March 4th, 2011
9:30 pm

Rashad Jones was a good safety but could have been a great safety. He wasn’t coached well at GA. The Dolphins drafted him so they see something in him. He was a big hitter but was terrible with the ball in the air. From my understnading, players were not taught to play the ball but play the hands of the receiver. Nick Saban want even recruit DB’s that do have ball skills. However, to win the recruiting battle in your own state, you have to take the top players and coach them up. The key words, “Coach them up”!! Hopefually, we are during that with the new coaching staff.

Dillan

March 4th, 2011
10:10 pm

Sure, a new defensive player being moved to a different position will save the season, seriously? Nah. richt’s tried that before, didn’t help, only got worse, lost 2 more games than last season, last 2 years.

DJ Southern_MoonPie

March 4th, 2011
10:35 pm

Here is the line to my latest DJ mix i just posted you can put in your browser and your set.

http://www.house-mixes.com/profile/DJ%20Southern-MoonPie/play/dallastomiami/

Jake

March 4th, 2011
10:37 pm

They better hope the freshman can play because Rambo is one of the worst defensive players I’ve ever seen. Late to the ball, poor tackler and generally clueless.

RED DOG 77

March 5th, 2011
1:06 am

@Jake……..and ‘ol Bill King………My goodness gracious boys ! I think I’ll call you two “Bummer one ” and “Bummer two “………..I’m wondering, are you two just a couple “Little Debbie Downers” or have you ever followed a college football player long enough to see him improve his play ?…….Since neither of you seem to have an ounce of optomism, you may borrow some from me. Grantham has made some extremely bright position changes, changes that will increase our D speed, plug-up the middle, and put the fear of God in oposing QBs………our corners should be as good as any in the SEC……..and yes Virginia there is a Santa………oops! and yes “Bummer one” and “Bummer two”……..Hamilton and Rambo will indeed improve, and catch that winning “fever”………Relax fellas……BULLDOGS do well in 2011………Regards, RED

A-Ville Ranger

March 5th, 2011
2:51 am

I think Corey Moore will turn heads this summer. Whether he’s ready to start is another question. I presonally think Derek Owens would be our best cover corner in Lakatos didn’t have such a stick up his azz about height. I also think Commings would be a much better FS than corner.

If Owens doesn’t fit in with Lakatos’ style he should transfer. I think he has a shot at playing on sundays if he gets with the right coach in the right defense.

Retro

March 5th, 2011
7:14 am

It’s kind of sad to see all the Dawg fans getting so excited this year (just like the year before, the year before that, etc.). How long is it going to take for UGA fans to realize that UGA is simply no longer relevant in the SEC? In the national picture, UGA isn’t even a blip on the radar, and hasn’t been since the preseason #1 ranking two years ago.

Sit back and be grateful for the six or seven wins you’ll get every year. Coaching genius Mark Richt may take you to 8-4 or even 9-3 occasionally, but Florida will still win the SEC, meaning no BCS bowls and no top 10 final ranking. Most years, UGA will be very lucky to finish in the top 25, and only after a big bowl win over a nobody opponent.

It’s a different world now, and Dawg fans need to adjust their expectations downward to reflect reality.

Unfortunately nothing is going to change until UGA changes its mediocre coaching. That’s where the difference is, and that’s why everyone outside Dawgtard Nation just laughs at Dawg fans getting so excited year after year about what a great recruiting class UGA gets. It doesn’t matter how many blue chip high school players go to UGA, they simply don’t get the coaching they would get at Florida or Alabama, to name two schools whose programs are far ahead of UGA. And that’s not going to change as long as Mark Richt is in Athens.

Get your heads out of the sand and face reality. And mediocrity and irrelevance. 

UGA, winner of the Fulmer/Richt Cup and known worldwide as The Cesspool of the South.

Vance Duuley

March 5th, 2011
7:22 am

There were a lot of things for the dawgs to celebrate this year. Let’s see…

1. A drunken, whoring athletic director with red panties in his lap.

2. Twelve players arrested. And 41% of UGA football players are arrested during their time at UGA.

3. A player suspended for violating NCAA rules.

4. Winning the Fulmer Cup for the most players arrested.

5. Winning the title of #1 party school (i.e., the most drunken student body in the USA).

6. A sleazy assistant coach who razzes opposing players, unethical coaching conduct in violation of NCAA rules.

7. A super sleazy head coach who thinks he’s a saint, but recruits thug wannabes, gangbangers, and illiterate morons.

8. A 6-7 record despite having a team full of 4- and 5-star recruits.

That’s really something to be proud of!

Fire wood for sale

March 5th, 2011
8:41 am

So Vance duuly what team do you pull for? They must be that bad not to mention them

dawgfan

March 5th, 2011
9:25 am

“pretty much a bust” seem a tad harsh.

Given all the “hitman” hype and how Richt talked him up like he was the second coming of Thomas Davis, he was a bust.

Talk, talk, talk, and yap, yap, yap. That’s all we’ve been doing for 3 whole years now.

woebegong

March 5th, 2011
9:28 am

If the 3-4 defense is working right, with the right personnel on the field, the QB will be hurried a lot more, and you will be containing the runners. No CB or safety is going to cover a receiver if the QB has all day to find him because he is not getting any pressure. IF Big J. Jenkins can plug up the middle and occupy two linesmen, that means we can utilize the outside linebacker to blitz a lot more, and the inside linebacker can contain the middle. When you have a young man such as Ogletree, that is still growing and hits like a guy 20 pounds heavier than him, it makes sense to move him into the middle of the backfield. He has exceptional speed as well. I believe, with his speed and toughness, he will be a real good player there. UGA’s 3-4 scheme, or any teams 3-4 for that fact; depends on pressure at the point of attack and I beleive we have the big boy in the middle and the Def. ends to deliver that this year. I look for a much improved defense this year as I really believe the DC is an excellent coach and now he has had a year with his folks and some quality recruits to work with and utilize. He can fashion the defense to work the way it should.
The best offense starts with a good defense.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAWGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

DCA

March 5th, 2011
9:35 am

Forget UGAG. Let’s get Georgia Tech back on track. Attendance at our Tickle Piles has been down and it’s because of Hewitt and Johnson. We need better coaching.

terry

March 5th, 2011
10:19 am

Don’t forget about that Stipling kid at outside linebacker – looked pretty atheletic to me and just needed experience.

Buckeye

March 5th, 2011
10:31 am

“Memories…….like the colors of my mind……misty watered colored memories…….of the way “dawgs” were………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtav2LU-tYI

1eyedJack

March 5th, 2011
10:35 am

The Dawgs will make that triple option, wing-T, Veer, Wishbone, no passing, fish frying ACC offense impotent, just like the rest of the nerds.

woebegong

March 5th, 2011
10:44 am

Wow Buckeye,
You really need to get on key with that singing dude. I thought it was somebody trying to lay rubber on the road there for a minute, LOL.

1eyedJack

March 5th, 2011
10:54 am

Bacari Rambo had a couple of head injuries last year. Redshirt Freshman year was promising. Should get back on track.

Jakari Hamilton, we probably had too many expectations last year. A year in the system should help. Appears to be a more instinctual rather than cerebral player.

Bacari & Jakari….should be a good nickname there somewhere. ;)

peepants

March 5th, 2011
10:55 am

I think the DB’s will be fine,the’ve had a yr in the system and they all are very good athletes. Increasecd pressure form the front 7 will aid them as well. Not worried

Dawg Tired

March 5th, 2011
2:45 pm

Rambo is afraid to hit anybody since he knocked himself out against Auburn in 2009. He’s done. Put somebody else in there and forget about him. A safety who is afraid to hit is worthless. Moving Ogeltree to LB appears to be a good idea.

snoopdawg

March 8th, 2011
5:28 pm

get off Richt’s case the greatest coaches ever had looseing season’s Bear,Dooley,Saban. Who would u replace him with kiffen Lol.You idiots

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