Should anything less than 10 wins save Mark Richt’s job?

How many wins in 2011 should be enough to save Mark Richt's job? (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

How many wins in 2011 should be enough to save Mark Richt's job? (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

We all know Georgia needs to show marked improvement next season to save Mark Richt’s job.

The question is how much improvement will be enough?

If Georgia wins the SEC East, the fire-Richt talk will quiet down, no doubt about it. And such a turnaround from this year’s disappointing results certainly isn’t out of the realm of possibility.

Short of a trip to the SEC championship, though, what would be considered acceptable progress? What would constitute being back “on track” in the eyes of Greg McGarity and the bulk of the Bulldog Nation?

Ten wins? That’s generally considered a benchmark of a successful season these days and probably would satisfy most UGA supporters. Even nine wins might do it, depending in part, I think, on who Georgia beats. If wins over Florida and Georgia Tech are included in that number, it might be judged good enough to buy Richt more time.

But what if Georgia only wins eight games? That would be an improvement over this year, but would it be enough to say Richt had righted the ship? Eight wins wasn’t enough to save Jim Donnan; should it save Richt?

I’ve heard more than one fan who’s lost faith in Richt call it the “nightmare” scenario: He wins just enough games next year to keep his job but doesn’t really make enough changes to get the Dogs back into the SEC elite.

The program’s been drifting now for several seasons as others have passed us. Would keeping Richt after an eight- or nine-win season in 2011 be accepting more of the same and just be putting off the inevitable?

What do you think?

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Blahblahblah

January 5th, 2011
7:56 am

Thugs? What thugs?

UGASlobberknocker

January 5th, 2011
7:58 am

I can live with 9 wins next yr as long as we beat Fla and Tech

Blahblahblah

January 5th, 2011
8:03 am

So according to Wally it was the black guy hired because of affirmative action who is to blame for Georgia’s misery. Not the coach.

JDawg

January 5th, 2011
8:05 am

“When was the last time: 5.Used clock management with under a minute to play before halftime?”
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AthDawg,

Richt does manage the clock. See, when there’s under 2 minutes left, he has his QB take a knee so as to run out the clock, whether UGA is ahead or behind.

CenterofMass

January 5th, 2011
8:18 am

Bulldog Friend, with all due respect…you don’t have to be a coach, etc. to know that UGA has is a ship without a rudder and a captain. Basic business principles can be applied to football, etc. Football is big business and needs competent personnel to manage it. It’s obvious, as one commenter stated earlier, many problems began with the hiring of the previous AD. Wow! Now, as then, most of our personnel have reach their level of incompetency. The negative publicity of the arrests is a major issue for the entire university. This has become a rule rather than exception. My humble opinion this is like the “canary in the coal mine.”

SEC East = Big East

January 5th, 2011
8:21 am

Even after only 6 wins and loses to Boise and UF, Richt’s contract will be renewed. The only place he’s going is to church on Sunday with the rest of the UGA ole boy network.

JDawg

January 5th, 2011
8:21 am

10 wins?

9 wins?

Win the East?

Beat UF?

Dang, do you people realize what you are writing?

Mark Richt and Co have now lost 12 games in two seasons, including losses to Colorado (who was so lousey, they fired their coach who lost 7 in a row after beating Richt, even before the season was over).

Y’all think all of a sudden Richt and Bobo are gonna figure out how to beat a team, any team with a winning record?

I’ve watched most of the bowl games since the Liberty, and to date our own UGA:

was the most unprepared;

had the most uninspired play;

had (as usual) the most predictabe offensive play-calling;

had the poorest blocking;

and apparently made no offensive adjustments at halftime or at any other time during the game.

And before you blame it all on Bobo, Mark Richt had a headset on too. He knew what was being called.

No staff changes in 2011. Just change “the way we go about our business.”

What does that mean, getting direct deposit instead of picking up those massive paychecks?

Almost $6 Million in football staff salaries. 6 Wins.

UGA is definitely not getting its money’s worth.

chazzo

January 5th, 2011
8:23 am

It all comes down to the big four. Win three on those, and there is no excuse for not winning 10.

Woebegong

January 5th, 2011
8:28 am

I do not know whether the amount of wins is a good guage come next year as to whether CMR has/can turn it around. I think it all boils down smart coaching decisions and to do that, one of the first things he will need to do is find a OC, who has the expierence, knowledge and coaching expertise to get the offense going. Hire a good OC, demote Bobo to quartersback coach, and let him learn under this coach. A few years of expierence would do Bobo an immense amount of good.

CMR has to coach like his career depends on it. Quit being conservative, and show some faith in those players you recruit. If not, the other SEC schools will continue to pick the state of Georgia clean. They should most likely get this running back because after watching Alabam’s bowl game, they are three solid players deep at running back and I don’t see him being able to beat any of them out for playing time. King and Ealey give him a legitimate chance of moving up quickly if he is as good as some folks think he is.

Make sure the players are not only in the weight room during the off seaqson, but out on the track, running wind sprints and the such. It is hard to believe all of their problems in the 4th quarter were due to poor conditioning but a good bit of it might have been. Part of the 4th quarter woes were due to the fact that they gave up, as the game plan was hopelessly out of sync by then and no coach to make the necessary adjustments to match the games flow.

If we do not have the beef to properly execute the 3-4 defense, let’s see more than the 40% usage of the 4-3 defense next year. If we can not get a legitimate NG who can occupy the middle, the 3-4 is not going to work. Don’t try and tell me that the players can’t learn both schemes well enough to be competitive either. These are suppose to be college educatable folks as well as players on the team. Another nice improvement we could make was to teach a bunch of these guys how to tackle. Smaller teams teach thier kids how to tackle around the legs and roll with the tackle. Simple fundementals.

CMJR, show the kids you have some fire in you. If you have lost that fire, negotiate a settlement with the AD and retire. At the same time, if a kid chooses to go out and get drunk, in a fight or some other unacceptable behavior, boot him off the team. Fans will understand and accept a little less as far as wins go, if the team does not have more police blotter entries than wins on the football field, at least for one season. Once these players knoiw they must act like young adults, they will come around. Sometimes, you have to use a little strong arm to get your point across. Works darn good when it comes to getting a bunch of raw recruits in the service, to start acting like the men they ne3ed to be, and start working as a unit. In my 21 years of service, I still remember vividly basic training and the whole new vocabulary I was taught. When I left basic training, I was a changed young man and ready to handle a whole lot more responsibility than when I first arrived. If these kids choose to be thugs, and not conduct themselves properly, let them find a school that will let them be thugs, not UGA. They need to know it is an honor to wear the black and red, not a given, just because they are athletic. If they are not smart enough to realize that, they do not belong in college in the first place.

St. Richt

January 5th, 2011
8:38 am

I see its time for the annual sunshine pump that is Georgia football to begin… 10 wins?? I’m sure they won’t miss a beat losing AJ Green and Justin Houston, among others. Bill- your blogs are always good for a nice laugh.

Meanwhile, how about that mighty SEC sitting at 3-4 in bowl games and 0-2 against the ACC? I don’t hear many people saying A-SHE-SHE on these blogs anymore.

St. Richt

January 5th, 2011
8:39 am

Oh, never mind, I forgot about “the Dream Team.” I’m sure Richt will coach them up just like he normally does.. Uh huh.

CenterofMass

January 5th, 2011
8:47 am

Woebegong, thanks for your comments-specifically, the conduct issues. Maybe UGA needs to incorporate some “basic training” program run by qualified retired drill Sergeant. Many of our “raw recruits” need a little attitude adjustment. I agree, if they’re smart enough to realize the honor of attending this institution, then they don’t belong here.

CenterofMass

January 5th, 2011
8:50 am

Sorry…I should have said, if they’re NOT smart enough to realize the honor of attending this institution, then they don’t belong here.

kwgadawg

January 5th, 2011
8:59 am

10 WINS AND THAT BETTER INCLUDE FL…

7576DAWG

January 5th, 2011
9:03 am

St Richt
If the SEC as a whole doesn’t improve next year and especially in 2012 then you may be right in making fun of by far the best conference in college football. The problem the SEC has is they have so many players and coaches going to the pros’ and for coaches pro’s and head coaches of other college programs , that we have to expect a bad year every now and then.
Other conferences better hope the SEC can’t reload , but we all know that’s not the case. ENJOY IT WHILE YOU CAN.

LakeDawg

January 5th, 2011
9:05 am

Well put Woebegong.

Garydawg

January 5th, 2011
9:19 am

Woebegong, where do you get off stating that Richt is conservative? Kicking that field goal on the 3 yard line with 4th down and inches showed me that he is a gambler. I thought he was going to punt.

schmeckdawg

January 5th, 2011
9:30 am

Donnan also couldn’t beat The Joke By Coke and had no personality.

Jborodawg

January 5th, 2011
9:45 am

I just knew with Bill King’s question that they would come out of the woodwork.

“…Richt is trying to get fired, he is not even serious about about winning…”
Ignorance rears its ugly head. Any evidence he feels that way?

“…Less commercials about Ford trucks and more concentration on the program…”
So, you think he sits in that truck three or four times a day and does that commercial?

“…The Dawgs have what amounts to a home game in ATL and they need to show what they are made of…”
Will the fans show what they’re made of?

“…At the very least we will be dismantled on national TV by Boise State and UF…”
You could make a million dollars in Vegas with that kinda foresight and knowledge.

“…First off Richt needs to “get crunked” on the sidelines…”
There’s a LOT of ranting’ and ravin’ coaches out there…who have losing records. If you haven’t seen coach Richt fired up on the sidelines, you haven’t been watching. An even keel is also a valued attribute.

Amen to Vant @1:12, “…Thanks, Bill for providing a forum for the delusional and demented to express their thoughts…” and, Red Rules@1:14, “…We were just an eyelash away from a much different season this year. If you people actually would go back and look at the games you DVR’d again, you’ll see what I mean. Richt cannot shoulder the blame for fumbles, interceptions, coverage miscues caused by someone taking the fake, dropped passes, dropped interception opportunities (there were several). And sometimes the opponents actually make some great plays themselves…” Might I add that Bobo shouldn’t shoulder the blame for those things either. Bobo didn’t throw two INTs against UCF. Granted, those mistakes don’t happen consistently with a well-coached, well-prepared team. Seems it was someone different every week. But, again, the coaches don’t throw INTs or drop passes. Penalties were down considerably; that in itself shows better coaching.

However, another 6-6 or 7-6 season won’t get it. Regardless the number of wins, if we win the East, keep him. If we win the SEC championship, definitely keep him. If not, sorry Coach Richt; it’s been nice.

SAVANNAHDAWG

January 5th, 2011
10:09 am

It’s not just about the wins anymore. The entire attitude needs to change now, starting with CMR! You drive 90-plus yards only to kick a field goal? Plenty of time left in the first half and you run out the clock instead of trying to get some points (not the first time this year either)!!! Kick the deadbeats off the team and send a message!!! No grades……..off the team! Get arrested, no matter what the charge, off the team!! If you are going to act stupid and lazy, off the team!!! And recruit guys who have heart, HUGH AMOUNTS OF HEART! The Caleb Kings of the world need to go…..ALL OF THEM!!!!
All the talent in the world means nothing if you don’t have the HEART, DRIVE, DESIRE AND HUNGER to do what you must!!! That means the coaches as well!!!
No excuses………this year stunk……….don’t let it happen again!!!!

BufordKing

January 5th, 2011
10:34 am

Let’s see:

We had 10 of 11 offense starters return this year.
We had a 6-7 record
We are losing AJ 4 game suspension Green, J. Houstin, Clint Boling.
Our running backs suck.

And we are hoping a bunch of High School kids will come in and “DREAM TEAM” UGA to glory.

I frankly do not see UGA doing anything special next year:

Here are my thoughts on the 2011 schedule:

– Boise State – LOSS
– South Carolina – LOSS
– Coastal Carolina – WIN
– @ Ole Miss – Probable WIN
– MIss STATE – LOSS –
– @ TENNESSEE – 50/50 – Probably WIN
– @ VANDY – WIN
– FLORIDA – Probable LOSS
– New Mexico – WIN
– AUBURN – LOSS
– Kentucky – Probable Win
– @ GT – Probable LOSS

Let’s Recap:
4 WINS – Coastal Carolina, VANDY, New Mexico
3 Maybe Wins: Ole Miss, Tennessee, Kentucky
3 Probable Losses: Florida, G-Tech
4 LOSSES: Boise State, South Carolina, Mississippi State, Auburn

Just keeping it REAL – based on what UGA has done the last 2 years and what is returning.

TejasDawg

January 5th, 2011
10:39 am

Let’s pretend CMR can right the ship and we have another 10 years in similar fashion to the last. A couple SEC titles in the next five years sounds great right now. However,would we be happy with a 4-16 record against Florida after 20 years of CMR? Plus we still would not have competed in a national championship game in 40 years by then.

Sure CMR is better than Donnan and Goof. I would hope so. However, I want someone who can compete semi consistantly with the likes of Saban, Meyer and Miles. I want to see the Dawgs take the national stage at least one more time. CMR has not done it in 10 years and it certainly does not look promising now.

The 2008 season was a bust no matter how many wins we had given what was expected. It has only gotten worse since. He is a good man and I admire that. However, there are a lot of coaches out there with substantially less talent and facilities doing much more.

Finally, just becasue some of us are critical does not mean we are not fans. Many times in my 58 years I have been critical of the president of our country and wanted change. That did not make me less of an American. I just wanted a better America.

BufordKing

January 5th, 2011
10:50 am

Jborodawg – we were within an eyelash of a different season??

We lost to figging Colorado and UCF!!!!

We got blown out by Auburn.
We were manhandled in the 4th Q by South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Auburn, and Colorado.

We gave us 30 points 5 times this year – and 29 points to Colorado.

We DID not score a touchdown against UCF – FRIGGING UCF!!!!

#1: POOR COACHING
#2: POOR LEADERSHIP
#3: UNPREPARED PLAYERS
#4: POOR GAME COACHING
#5: NO RUN DEFENSE IN THE 4Q this year

Our program has slipped – and slipped fast – 6-7 in not even mediocre – it is a LOSING RECORD against the easist schedule we have had in years.

No Excuses – Coach Richt is a GREAT man, BUT HIS program has now failed.

It’s FANS like me that buy tickets, send money – travel to watch the team. And when we have nore ARRESTS than POINTs SCORED AGAINST UCF – I have a real problem with our LEADERSHIP – or lack thereof.

Jborodawg

January 5th, 2011
11:15 am

BufordKing…points well taken. The Colorado loss was inexcusable. I wouldn’t put UCF in the same category since they were ranked #25. I’d almost put the Flawduh loss right there with Colorado; that was def a winnable game. Awbun and S.C. were a different story; after all, they placed for the SECC. But, good teams can win on any given Saturday no matter the competition. And no doubt we can and do expect that. Yes, it was a “disastrous” season, by our standards. I’m just in the camp that says give CMR and CMB another year. I don’t think we wanta be where Tenn is; where every game the announcers are saying, “…these players are dealing with their third coaching staffs in three years…” Hopefully, Joe T can kick the conditioning program up a few notches. However, I do wonder about the O line coaching. Supposedly one of the best O lines coming into the season. But, no running game and the QB scrambling/hurrying/throwing INTs shows O line problems to me. I might be wrong.

Go Dawgs

January 5th, 2011
11:52 am

10 wins, SEC championship game appearance.

hotdawg

January 5th, 2011
11:59 am

BILL KING,
In the interest of fairness, should you not speculate on whether 10 wins will be enough to save Paul Johnson’s job in 2011? Or is Johnson and Tech so irrelevant that your potential readers would have little interest? It is truly sad that UGA constantly fights a “headwind” of silly rumor and speculation promulgated by the AJC sports staff.

Chris

January 5th, 2011
12:00 pm

Ugh, ONE. Its called the championship.
Can’t win with the caliber players he has had….get rid of em

tired of losing to UF

January 5th, 2011
12:10 pm

if we beat UF by 50 them maybe. Still wont make up for 10yrs of florida dominance under Richt.

Jborodawg

January 5th, 2011
12:16 pm

Dropped passes, crucial INT, falling on the ball instead of running it in, HC looking dumbfounded after the loss….

Petrino has to go.

HanDAWG

January 5th, 2011
12:21 pm

http://www.bighairyblawg.com (trademark) – has perspective on Richt. Short of at least a division title, I’d say 9 wins is sort of the over/under on Richt staying: 10 wins, he stays. 9 wins, questionable. 8 wins, he’s out.

brokebackvol

January 5th, 2011
12:25 pm

Its like watching what happened with Fulmer all over again. Nice guy, decent coach, but he’s had his chance. Dawgfans deserve better than just another 3rd place in SEC East run. He’s toast so dump him now and grab someone available right now – how about RichRod?

georgia resident

January 5th, 2011
12:25 pm

I am personally tired of reading about the thugs that are constantly breaking laws. I don’t care if they are on a scholarship and are the number one picks, they need to learn how to live within the law. They won’t be given chances in the real world so start them now. Teach them respect for others.

Mac

January 5th, 2011
12:32 pm

Georgia’s 20th player arrested this week(AJC yesterday)? He might the the best coach in the world but he can not control his players??????

Fletcher

January 5th, 2011
12:34 pm

Amazing that Richt now knows”how” to fix the UGA football problems, where in the hell has he been if he knows what the problems really are? Nothing will change with this staff, as they just don;t have the tools to produce a really good team. O line was supposed to be good, looked like a high school line.

Jeff

January 5th, 2011
12:37 pm

Anything less than what Florida, LSU, Florida, and Alabama have won the last four years and Auburn is trying to purchase this year is unexceptable. That is part of the problem with CMR, is his goals are set low instead of for the top prize. If those teams can win, then why can’t CMR win with the players he’s recruited. No excuses. I’m sick of his excuses.

Producer

January 5th, 2011
1:00 pm

The thing I’m trying to figure out is who Richt has nekkid pictures of to still be employed. He is ineffective and does not deserve another season.

Jeff Dantzler

January 5th, 2011
1:04 pm

Ed (The Original)

January 5th, 2011
1:15 pm

“Oh, and at the risk of sounding racial. Did anyone see the Orange Bowl last night. No one can tell me that white boys can’t play this sport anymore. that is bunck!!!!!!!!!!!”

It’s not racist savannadawg, just an honest observation. Stanford not only proved that, but so did TCU in the Rose Bowl. 13-0.

Boise State’s been proving that for a long time. Although to a slightly lesser extent, Ohio State proved it last night.

Do white kids still play football in the south? You’d never know it watching games on TV, especially the defenses. They don’t seem to have any problems excelling in football if they live in the North and West.

David Pollack once played defense for UGA. He was pretty good, as I recall. I’m wondering if too much emphasis is placed by recruiters on 40 times and vertical jumps. Ability to play football at the major college level should be a factor too, and many so-called 4-star athletes that UGA lands seem to lack that most important intangible.

Bham Jason

January 5th, 2011
1:16 pm

Fire him yesterday, not today, not next week. There is no excuse good enough to keep him. Listen to his comments regarding the season and the bowl loss. He has no answers because he lost control 2 years ago. UGA or as it has been renamed thUGA, will probably win 8 games next year and we will settle for that because we are used to mediocrity. Fire him now and hire Kirby Smart from AL and that would help with recruits that are wavering between AL and thUGA.

Dawg Fud

January 5th, 2011
1:22 pm

If we lose to Florida he should fired on the spot. The would make him 2-11 v. the Gators.

Unacceptable.

Mike

January 5th, 2011
1:24 pm

It will depend on how the wins LOOK. Administrative duties prevented him from helping these players win? Unlikely. I am not there; but, I hope he has more than less time spent on administration is the difference.

12 CRIMINAL CHARGES 7--er--6 wins 6..NO..7 LOSSES

January 5th, 2011
1:28 pm

How many wins? Just say 13-0 and put it on a plaque. We can always change it later.

Here's to "changes"

January 5th, 2011
1:30 pm

I’ll bet I’m reading this same article this time next year….

nauti-dawg

January 5th, 2011
1:37 pm

If a frog had wings…..

Even if we get Crowell and he plays as a true Freshman, I just don’t see us winning much more with Bobo calling the same old 10 plays he’s been using in the same old situations for years.

Don’t you think the recruits read these blogs too?

IMHO – MR will not get the dream team without assuring the recruits that play calling responsibilities will change and predictability will be replaced by clever imagination -

~ Loyalty is a fine quality, but in excess it fills political graveyards. ~
- Neil Kinnock

browndog

January 5th, 2011
1:47 pm

Want to see the players being held accountable for their actions off the field. Play the kids that give 100% and let the chips fall where they may. With what the coaches are being paid the fans deserve a quality product. Too bad compensation for the coaches is not on an incentive basis because if so there would be a different approach to each season.

Chickasaw

January 5th, 2011
1:51 pm

Coach Richt should earn another season if:

- Wins at least 9 games.
- Beats UF.
- Suffers no blowouts and is competitive in every game.
- Is in the race for SEC East all the way to last SEC game.
- Gets to a good bowl–e.g., Outback or Citrus (or whatever they’re called now).
- No more than 3 or 4 off field issues.
- Maintains current graduation rate.
- We fans see as much fight and passion in coaches and players as we feel ourselves.

Easy to say. I know that the first time it’s 3d and 20 and we run it between the tackles I’ll be saying “fire ‘em all!” Then again, I remember pretty much same thing happening in 1979!

BulldogGirl

January 5th, 2011
2:36 pm

“get the Dogs back into the SEC elite”? Seriously Bill? When were we ever in the SEC elite? 1980 – 1983 maybe? I’m a huge Dawg fan and would like to see some major improvement but let’s now kid ourselves. If we can’t beat Florida and win the East consistently we are not and never have been in the SEC elite. We need a coach who can get us there!

legionaire

January 5th, 2011
2:42 pm

10 wins would be enough to keep his job .Buck Belue thinks it is time to demote Garner as recruiter to D line coach. It seems to me that each class for the past 5 years have been in the top 10. Why have they not been coached up? Why have there been games that preparation was non existent- Alabama in 2008, Florida 2010 are examples.

JT

January 5th, 2011
4:43 pm

Fellow dawg fans!!!! You know history of football!!! Help me out with this question..Has any coach in the history of all football ever went from 6-7 to 14-0????? Is Mark Richt the one in possibly 1,000,000 odds to win the national championship next year???? I am positive you have to be realistic.

BobbyDawg

January 5th, 2011
4:58 pm

JT — I could research this further but this is what I came up with on quick notice.
In 1969 AND 1970 Alabama went 6 — 5 both years under The Bear. Then in 1971 they went 11 –1 ; 1972 10 — 2 ;Then 11 — 1 in 1973, 1974 ,and1975.