Should anything less than 10 wins save Mark Richt’s job?

How many wins in 2011 should be enough to save Mark Richt's job? (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

How many wins in 2011 should be enough to save Mark Richt's job? (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

We all know Georgia needs to show marked improvement next season to save Mark Richt’s job.

The question is how much improvement will be enough?

If Georgia wins the SEC East, the fire-Richt talk will quiet down, no doubt about it. And such a turnaround from this year’s disappointing results certainly isn’t out of the realm of possibility.

Short of a trip to the SEC championship, though, what would be considered acceptable progress? What would constitute being back “on track” in the eyes of Greg McGarity and the bulk of the Bulldog Nation?

Ten wins? That’s generally considered a benchmark of a successful season these days and probably would satisfy most UGA supporters. Even nine wins might do it, depending in part, I think, on who Georgia beats. If wins over Florida and Georgia Tech are included in that number, it might be judged good enough to buy Richt more time.

But what if Georgia only wins eight games? That would be an improvement over this year, but would it be enough to say Richt had righted the ship? Eight wins wasn’t enough to save Jim Donnan; should it save Richt?

I’ve heard more than one fan who’s lost faith in Richt call it the “nightmare” scenario: He wins just enough games next year to keep his job but doesn’t really make enough changes to get the Dogs back into the SEC elite.

The program’s been drifting now for several seasons as others have passed us. Would keeping Richt after an eight- or nine-win season in 2011 be accepting more of the same and just be putting off the inevitable?

What do you think?

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Richie

January 4th, 2011
6:14 pm

who is going to buyout all of the contracts and who would be a good replacement?

jack bull

January 4th, 2011
6:16 pm

5 years? huh?!? wow..

9 wins will save his job. although i think we’ll win more than that myself. unless he insist’s on keeping Murray at QB…

Blue Ridge Dawg

January 4th, 2011
6:21 pm

wayxdog you listen to the same radio station that i do. i think it’s a good idea.

JRW7

January 4th, 2011
6:24 pm

Let’s see, we had 12 arrests, but only 6 wins, this does not add up very good for CMR!!!! Enought is enought!!!!!! Times up for CMR!!!!

Salvatore

January 4th, 2011
6:31 pm

CMR needs to announce Marcus Dowtin’s permanent suspension from the team, and he needs to do it now. UGA doesn’t have a football team any more, Richt has let it turn into a gang of thugs.

Inevitable

January 4th, 2011
6:34 pm

Fire Richt now, or we’ll be going through this same conversation a year from now.

jack bull

January 4th, 2011
6:39 pm

like i’ve said before. we’ve had 12 arrests, outta 100+ players on the team, that’s about 10% of the team, which is made up of 18-22 year olds.

Cam Newton himself had 13 arrests while at Florida, and who knows how many at Auburn? Auburn is in the great state of Alabama, where really good players get pulled over and the officer says, “oh, it’s you, you need a ride home?” anybody on here, including Bill himself, who thinks 10-12 guys on the team at any time in the history of college football weren’t doing something to get in trouble are delusional..

jack bull

January 4th, 2011
6:42 pm

who on here would’ve wanted Cam Newton on our team this year? just wondering.

Jborodawg

January 4th, 2011
6:51 pm

I’d settle for eight IF we beat Awbun, Flawduh and Tech. Lose one of those then it’s nine. Lose two of those then it’s 10.

I have every faith that CMR will turn it around. Statements like “lacks fire”, “doesn’t care”, “has lost control” are just ignorant.

I like what Lou Holz said today on ESPN; “…If you’re gonna fire the coach you better have a SOLID idea who you’ll get to replace him…practically have that person ready to sign on the dotted line…and know for sure he’ll be better than the one you fired…”

Amen “DavidW08″! Well said. Hopefully “…Murray, Crowell, and others…” don’t read the comments here and elsewhere from “fans” who think they know exactly what ails the program. And comments purporting to know what another person (CMR) is thinking or feeling.

techengineer

January 4th, 2011
6:58 pm

GA will never win 10 games again w/ Bobo calling plays. They need a real offensive coordinator and yes I’d fire Richt now. I’ve been a fan of his ever since he arrived but the last 5 years have been unbearable. Just damn right awful football with some of the best athletes in the nation. Fire him now or fire him next year. Nothing will change at GA.. Man I wish they would have got Dooley!

Big Dawg in the carolinas

January 4th, 2011
7:20 pm

Must win 10 and beat Fla. we have played for the last few years with “NO HEART” and if we run the ball inside the tackle more then twice in a series next year “I’m going to be sick” we have fast backs that can run a defensive line into the ground running for side to side and early in the season they want be in shape “other team” and we can use our speed, we need a defence that attacks “NOT” the bend but don’t break defence, more to come later. BD

college football fan

January 4th, 2011
7:21 pm

@einsteindawg – Bama’s 4th place in the SEC West with 3 losses would have been a tie for first in the SEC East. In case you didn’t notice, the West was a much stronger division this year.

DAWG with two bags over head

January 4th, 2011
7:22 pm

As I said earlier this afternoon, to debate a trigger point in wins is pointless. We need to hunker down and demand a coaching change now. You kool aid drinkers just can’t separate the mediocre coach from the Christian man. Our CEO is a great guy, but he is not a great coach. He’s had ten season to prove himself, and all he’s proven is that he can win some games with somebody else’s recruits and a hard-nosed DC, both of which he no longer has. Hanging on to him just puts us farther down the road in cleaning up this mess of undisciplined, selfish, and entitled thugs.

JKA

January 4th, 2011
7:33 pm

He should go now. We should no longer accept losing consistently to Florida. If we want to be a 1st tier team in the SEC we cannot continue to accept mediocrity. I would assure you, he would have been gone a long time ago had he been coaching at Florida, Alabama or LSU. But they obviously have higher expectations than we do.

Boobie Bowden

January 4th, 2011
7:38 pm

Hell, dawgs had an even dozen this year. Oh, wins? Sorry, I thought you were talking about arrests. Is that gonna be on the plague they give the Seniors?

PHIL

January 4th, 2011
7:43 pm

Bill, do they pay you by the reply to your blog like they do Bradley and Shultz? The season is over. Why don’t you try writing an article about why recruits should come to UGA even though this was obviously a down year? All you and the other two members of the three stooges do is hurt recruiting. The other two don’t help Tech much, either. The largest newspaper in the state should be ashamed.

PHIL

January 4th, 2011
7:48 pm

Enter your comments hereI forgot to mention that Tide Roll is the perfect example for the reason why we tell “Alabama Jokes,” It’s probably him I’ve got on this picture of an “Alabama Bass Boat.”

beanuga

January 4th, 2011
8:00 pm

IDK. Why doesn’t MR get rid of some assistants? I can name 4 right off the bat.

Stuck in TN Dawg

January 4th, 2011
8:01 pm

Been “stuck” in Nashville for the last 10 + years. 1966 GA Grad. Had to support Vandy. Well, at least I was able to see some other “great” teams, sorta play. Now is the time for UGA to beat Vandy in doing the “PC Thang”. Hire GOLDBURG! Not Bill – but Whoopie. It’s time for a female coach of color. Whatever!

WeallbleedRed

January 4th, 2011
8:12 pm

We as fans just expect too much. However if you look at the past 4 seasons the program has gone down. CMR is a good person. I can’t critize his christian beleifs. My fellow fans if UGA lets him go, who are we gonna get? Yes, there are some out there that may be qualified to coach. But are they a good fit for UGA? And would they accept the job? If you remember before CMR there were some that were offered but turned it down. Why? Who knows? I would love to see UGA go back to the GLORY DAYS. Can CMR do it? I just don’t know.

chet

January 4th, 2011
8:18 pm

Win the east (not likely) but we all know they have no shot to win the SEC, the west is sooooo much better (coached).

Chet

Potatodawg

January 4th, 2011
8:30 pm

I’ve given up on CMR. He was supposed to right the program this year. Please don’t say we can’t find a top quality coach to take this great job. Bulldawg nation has been very good to CMR. He has let us down and is now in denial. At least Urban stepped down because of health reasons he lost his edge. But our coach won’t admit he doesn’t have an edge .

Dawgman in South GA

January 4th, 2011
9:03 pm

He should have been fired Friday night. As a matter of fact, he shouldnt have been allowed to come back to Athens period! . . . .Sorry folks, I get a little carried away sometimes. Unfortunately I believe that CMR’s strength is his weakness. He is a very loyal man, but he is more loyal to his below average assistant coaches than he is to the advancement of the program.

Mistake 1. Not bringing in a proven D.C. when VanGorder left.

Mistake 2. Promoting slick Willy to run the defense.

Tied for 3rd place. Firing slick Willy too late and allowing Bobo to call plays.

I just dont see UGA winning more than 8 games next season. Heck, if UGA wins 8 with this staff I’ll be shocked.

Bama Dawg

January 4th, 2011
9:11 pm

In order for CMR to reach 10 wins, he would have to rid himself of his entire staff because the current staff has proven beyond a doubt that they can’t coach. AD McGarity needs to go ahead and get rid of him now instead of doing so next year. It’s time to move on.

UGA fans are so ....

January 4th, 2011
9:33 pm

You know what makes me sick? YOU DO! Why don’t we go over to mamby pamby land & get you some self confidence, you JACK WAGON!

TBod Dawg

January 4th, 2011
9:37 pm

I have been behind CMR from the start, but he has lost control of
this program. We need new leadership. Hell, bring Jim Donnan
back. He had the program going in the right direction.

wildbill

January 4th, 2011
10:01 pm

After Boise State cleans our clock, we might have to bring back Vince!

jbdabassman

January 4th, 2011
10:12 pm

I agree with beachdawg on BOZO, really a problem should have went before martinez

JUST WIN

January 4th, 2011
10:16 pm

Anything less than 10 wins should lead to Richt’s dismissal.

Mamby Pamby Land

January 4th, 2011
10:18 pm

Mamby Pamby Land is located on North Avenue in Atlanta.

AthDawg

January 4th, 2011
10:35 pm

I told Coach Richt face to face in September that he needed to use the word “Championships” more. I told him the Bulldog nation needed to know from his mouth that he thinks and speaks to his platyers about championships. He said “well, if you want to hear “championships” I guess we could say it for the fans. I said, “not just for the fans Coach, the recruits need you to say that we are here to win “championships ” too. He said “we’ll see what we can do.”
Here’s his passive, unemotional, press conference after one of the worst Bowl appearances UGA football has ever seen.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/561358-georgia-football-mark-richt-says-it-best-were-all-disappointed

KDAWG

January 4th, 2011
10:43 pm

Let’s look at the obvious, forget 13 losses in 2 seasons which is enough to fire any coach, Florida and Alabama both would have fired Saban and Myers. It is things like- beating Florida not once- but how about 2 years in a row? Why is that so hard to do? How can you not win a NC with Matt Stafford, Knowshon Moreno, Muhammed Masoquai and AJ Green on the same team? That alone is good for 35- 42 points a game against any defense and please don’t get me started on the 2002 team- David Greene, David Pollack(the best Georgia team I have ever seen)- if that Georgia team could not make it to the NC game, Georgia never will under Richt. Look at it from another angle-Meyers, Davis, Saban and Chizik have all made it to the NC Game. These are realities and if everyone takes a step back and looks at everything and not just losing to UCF in the Liberty Bowl, it probably is time for him to go. Let’s not forget the 11 players arrested over the summer- anyone remember that? Now it looks like one of our guys is suspended for quite awhile next year. Could you imagine degressing at your job for 2 years? You would have been asked to leave by now. He is a great guy but I think his Glory Days at UGA have passed and unfortunately College Football in the South is a business and Richt is showing poor management of his Staff and Players. Georgia just does not lose to teams like UCF, Colorado, Miss St, Arkansas- as an Alumni I should never have to wake up on a Saturday morning wondering if we are going to beat Kentucky or Vanderbilt- especially when Georgia is the underdog!

AthDawg

January 4th, 2011
10:54 pm

When was the last time Georgia……

1. Ran a fake punt?
2. Ran a fake FG?
3. Ran the No Huddle?
4. Blocked a punt?
5. Used clock management with under a minute to play before halftime?
6. Coach showed energy and motivation on the sidelines?

As Munson would say, “ok, get the picture”.

PRATTVILLEDAWG

January 4th, 2011
11:05 pm

Have CMR sign a contract to win 10 games in 2011 including UF and Tech. If contract is not fulfilled, he must resign and forfiet all buy out money. If he does not want to sign contract,FIRE HIS ASS NOW!!!

icedawg

January 4th, 2011
11:14 pm

Well, if we are looking for improvement then there should be no arrests this year and at least 7 wins.

Wally Butts

January 4th, 2011
11:31 pm

It cannot be forgotten that Georgia screwed Richt big time by hiring Damon Evans as his boss, as though Evans, at age 34 and ten years younger, could provide Richt any guidance or counsel. Without a credible boss to set fair standards, many people do not perform well. Evans skipped about seven levels of normal career progression in the AD ranks, all apparently because of a desire of Georgia (and Pres Mike Adams) to appear culturally stylish. Just a joke of a hire, and anyone who has labored through the ranks of athletic administration knows it was. Richt now has a new boss with seasoning and experience which will greatly help him. For the first time in six years, he will have a review from someone he respects as having knowledge of the situation.

GWJ

January 5th, 2011
12:24 am

Gotta win the East…period.

DAWGS forever

January 5th, 2011
12:37 am

10 isn’t enough. We need championships. We need gatorade baths. Let’s get back to the DAWGS of old not this excuse ridden bunch. Get back to those who WANT to be a DAWG and not just a stepping stone.

OldFan

January 5th, 2011
12:42 am

I think the real question here is not how many wins will save CMR’s job. The real question is will any number of wins save his job if nothing else changes? Say we win 10 games with a season full of arrests, disciplinary problems, sideline antics and boneheaded coaching. Has CMR earned our acclaim again? For 99% of the fans, I bet he has.

hotdawg

January 5th, 2011
12:46 am

Should 10 wins save Paul Johnson’s job? He’s definitely got Tech on the road that any UGA fan would love; however the hymenopterans and the AJC sports staff may think he’ll need 10 or more wins in 2011.

BoWeevil

January 5th, 2011
12:55 am

Last Five (5) Years :

56-9 Ohio State
56-12 Florida
61-5 Boise State
55-10 TCU
54-15 Oklahoma
52-16 Virginia Tech
51-14 Southern California
50-15 LSU
50-15 Texas
50-15 BYU
50-15 Utah
49-16 Wisconsin
49-16 West Virginia
49-18 Alabama on the field
48-16 Oregon
48-19 Missouri
47-18 Penn State
46-18 Auburn
46-22 Hawaii
45-20 Cincinnati
45-21 Boston College
45-20 Texas Tech
44-21 Georgia Mark Richt last entire 5 years # 23 won/lost # 23

2 other teams with 44 wins the last 5 years, Navy and Tulsa.

2 more teams with 43 wins the last 5 years Oklahoma State and Nebraska.

2 more teams with 42 wins the last 5 years South Florida and Georgia tek.

All games through tonight 4 January 2011.

BoWeevil

January 5th, 2011
1:10 am

Oldfan,

No sir.

The number is 67 percent of Bulldogs’ fans say NOW TODAY that 2011 is Mark Richt’s LAST YEAR

BoWeevil

January 5th, 2011
1:13 am

GWJ,

Win The SEC East ?

Good Lord son, Mark Richt is 13-12 vs SEC East these last 5 years now and counting.

Win The SEC East 2011 ?

DISNEYdawgs.com

He Hate Gator

January 5th, 2011
1:17 am

A big turnaround is highly unlikely so why waste the season…clean house now and let the fans and players have a fresh outlook….

Bulldog Friend

January 5th, 2011
5:26 am

With every new blog it seems to me that the UGA fans are getting more adamant about getting rid of CMR. Each of us has a right to express their opinion. Although I am in the vast minority here, I believe UGA fans need to realize:
1. Dr. Adams and McGarity will make all major decisions based on what they believe is best not what the fans and alumni want them to do.
2.Those who are yelling for CMR to be fired have never coached football.
3.Those same people have no clue as who the solution (a new coach(es) should be and if they did could they get them to come to UGA?

BoWeevil

January 5th, 2011
6:12 am

You’re an idiot.

Who do you think gives the school the money ?

It is us.

Who cares who the next coach is ?

We are still working on getting this guy, out.

He is the 1 who needs to worry what job he can get next that is nearly as good as this one.

ta

January 5th, 2011
6:25 am

.When are we going to start talking about Paul Johnson’s job. As bad as Georgia has been the last two years they still beat tech. Wyoming who was 3 and 9 was able to put up 14 points on Air Force.

Coach Johnson

January 5th, 2011
6:39 am

I’m glad Richt is catching the heat and not me! Thank goodness that Tech has low expectations and is comfortable with losing seasons! I’m glad that everyone knows that I’m a genius and that my players and coaches are sub-par!

Dawg with two bags over his head

January 5th, 2011
7:43 am

Bill,

Since we’ve exhausted this “how many wins” exercise, how about a blog devoted to “what do we as fans need to do right now to end the CEO MR era?

Dawg with two bags over his head

January 5th, 2011
7:49 am

Here are some suggestions that I’ve already completed:

1) Withhold Hartman contribution

2) Write and send a polite but firm e-mail/letter to Greg McGarity expressing my thoughts on the direction of the Program

3) Plan not to attend a game in which CEO MR participates (notice I didn’t use the words “coach” or “coached”, reasons are obvious)