Should anything less than 10 wins save Mark Richt’s job?

How many wins in 2011 should be enough to save Mark Richt's job? (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

How many wins in 2011 should be enough to save Mark Richt's job? (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

We all know Georgia needs to show marked improvement next season to save Mark Richt’s job.

The question is how much improvement will be enough?

If Georgia wins the SEC East, the fire-Richt talk will quiet down, no doubt about it. And such a turnaround from this year’s disappointing results certainly isn’t out of the realm of possibility.

Short of a trip to the SEC championship, though, what would be considered acceptable progress? What would constitute being back “on track” in the eyes of Greg McGarity and the bulk of the Bulldog Nation?

Ten wins? That’s generally considered a benchmark of a successful season these days and probably would satisfy most UGA supporters. Even nine wins might do it, depending in part, I think, on who Georgia beats. If wins over Florida and Georgia Tech are included in that number, it might be judged good enough to buy Richt more time.

But what if Georgia only wins eight games? That would be an improvement over this year, but would it be enough to say Richt had righted the ship? Eight wins wasn’t enough to save Jim Donnan; should it save Richt?

I’ve heard more than one fan who’s lost faith in Richt call it the “nightmare” scenario: He wins just enough games next year to keep his job but doesn’t really make enough changes to get the Dogs back into the SEC elite.

The program’s been drifting now for several seasons as others have passed us. Would keeping Richt after an eight- or nine-win season in 2011 be accepting more of the same and just be putting off the inevitable?

What do you think?

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Michael

January 4th, 2011
12:33 pm

Win the east, beat UF and Tech. Nothing less. Reading through the comments above made me wonder. Is it too big a stretch to expect football fans to know how to spell the word “lose”?

Ceasar

January 4th, 2011
12:33 pm

With the cupcake ‘11 schedule 11 wins is a must!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UGAGrrl

January 4th, 2011
12:34 pm

After attending UGA during the dark days of Ray Goof (and sitting in the stands while Spurrier ran the score up), I thought any coaching change would be an improvement. I was, and still am, a huge Jim Donnan fan. If we hadn’t lost to Tech in ‘99, he might have stayed around another season or two. Anyway, I’ve come to love Mark Richt, but our Dawgs phoned it in this last Friday, and that’s all CMR’s coaching and leadership. I say we don’t need trickeration, we need fundamentals! Is it too early to ask Santa for a tackling coach, a leaner, meaner attitude on both sides of the ball, and sound fundamentals?

RunningDog

January 4th, 2011
12:35 pm

You can’t apply the standards of Jim Donnan. Donnan never won two SEC titles or took the team to any BCS games.

UGAX

January 4th, 2011
12:36 pm

Can we not make a run at Patterson from TCU?. Bring in his whole staff and start over……

Top Dawg

January 4th, 2011
12:36 pm

It’s more about the attitude, effort, determination and commitment of the coaches and the players than it is about a specific number of wins next year. That all has to change in order to “right the ship.” Nine wins SHOULD be considered a down year at UGA.

MAD DAWG

January 4th, 2011
12:37 pm

FIRE MARK RICHT RIGHT NOW! HE TURNING INTO RAY GOFF. HE IS NOT GOING TO WIN TEN GAMES OR COME CLOSE TO WINNING THE EAST IN 2011. HE CAN’T BEAT FLORIDA.

Paul H

January 4th, 2011
12:38 pm

9 and the East

Damon

January 4th, 2011
12:38 pm

Mark Richt is part of the problem but there are many others. Making Bobo his OC was the dumbest thing he has ever done. He was a QB coach and time management something or the other. Bobo is in way over his head, he has never coached an OL, WR, RB, TE he was a QB coach and that was it. Bobo should not be calling the plays he gets it right sometimes but not nearly enough for UGA to be competitive.

Chris

January 4th, 2011
12:38 pm

If we lose to Florida, and win 8 or 9 games, he should be gone. I just can’t get over the fact that he was brought to Georgia to win championships and beat Florida. He is 2-8 against Florida, and hasn’t won a championship of any sort in 5 years.

Hell, he should already be gone! What are we thinking????

fred

January 4th, 2011
12:40 pm

sorry, richt isnt the bulk of the problem…if saban coached uga and had to play by the same “rules” as richt (and those who came before), then he couldn’t fix uga football either, and therefore would never attempt to.

Go Dawgs!

January 4th, 2011
12:41 pm

I think it goes much deeper than just the pure number of wins and losses.

I think it depends on a few things:

1. Who the losses are to
2. How much we lose by
3. When we lose
4. Why we lose

example if we’re 9-3 but the 3 loses come in the form of under 7pts to say Boise St, SC, and Tenn early in the season, but the team fought and were in those games and the team got better as the season went on and we record some double digit victories then it MAY be enough to keep his job.

If we go 9-3 losing by double digits to SC, UF, and GT and have several close wins. He’s done for sure.

If I’m Richt and Co. I’m preparing to go 11-1 or 10-2 with a trip to the SEC Championship game. If he’s 10-2 and loses both the SECC and Bowl game to finish 10-4 then I think he’s done despite going to SEC title game.

I personally think 11 is the magic number for Richt. Patience is running thin.

saban

January 4th, 2011
12:45 pm

Richt Forever.

He will recruit a couple of wonder dawgs that will buy him a few more years.

No one will notice the pitiful coaching of choakdawg and the rest and I will win two more national championships.

Recruiting Georgia players is so easy these days. Wonder who I will allow to play for me?

Ceasar

January 4th, 2011
12:49 pm

The whole town needs an attitude change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Macclenny_dawg

January 4th, 2011
12:49 pm

Bill anything less than a SEC Championship and he should be gone Period!!! He will never have an easier schedule than 2011!!! He has never swept the teams in the east. Everthing sets up for that to happen!!! We will not play anybody that should beat us on the road!!! Home games has to be all wins the good teams win there home games!!! Florida should be a must game he said when he was hired that was what he was hired to do!!! He hasn’t delivered so even by his standards he should have been gone!!! SEC championship or bye, bye!!!

Just Keep On

January 4th, 2011
12:50 pm

It is not this year’s record that will hurt recruting, it is all the TRUE RED DAWG FANS yelling for CMR job that will hurt recruting. The recruits are hearing the barking of Dawg fans loud and clear.

Ray Goff

January 4th, 2011
12:50 pm

Would any other SEC team other than Vandy, keep a coach who just went 6-7 and lost 10-6 to UCF?

dawgmeister

January 4th, 2011
12:51 pm

Anything short of a Eastern Division championship that includes wins over Florida, South Carolina, Tech and Auburn will be grounds for firing that loser Richt.

David Granger

January 4th, 2011
12:51 pm

It’s not so much what the record is, but how has the program’s overall “feel” changed:
Do we still have lots of players getting in legal trouble?
Do we still make lots of stupid penalties at critical times?
Do we still play very poor defense?
Does our offense still make real conservative calls?
Do we play scared, and worry more about not losing than about trying to win?
Has Coach Richt gotten that “gimmick” stuff out of his system?
When we play a team that we’re clearly BETTER than…do we beat it handily, or play down to its level and have to scramble to win a close one?
Does the team actually have DISCIPLINE…both on and off the field?
If we can make those changes, the won-loss record will take care of itself.

I hope I’m wrong, but frankly…I don’t think Coach Richt can do it. For one thing, when a coach loses discipline, it’s almost impossible to ever get it back. Coach Richt has done some good things here at Georgia, but it’s time for him to move on…and I wish him well.

Ray Goff

January 4th, 2011
12:52 pm

He gets a way to much latitude for being a nice guy and adopting foreign kids.

SoCal Dawg

January 4th, 2011
12:53 pm

For me it all depends on how much heart and soul the team plays with in loses and wins.

Keep On Keepin' On

January 4th, 2011
12:54 pm

With fewer criminal arrests next season, and no 4-game suspensions, the Dogs will do just fine.

chiefdawg

January 4th, 2011
12:57 pm

Must be 10 wins and one of those wins must be UF. Should have let him go this year.

girldawg

January 4th, 2011
12:57 pm

He has to win the 2011 SEC Championship with a mandate to win a NC the next year. Nothing more nothing less. I always said if everyone is okay with mostly mediocre seasons with a few so called winning season thrown in CMR is your guy! CMR could not win a NC when he had one of the best teams ever which included David Green and David Pollack (not his recruits) so it is questionable if he can do it now. I don’t think he knows how to really utilize and grow talent. He demonstrated that when he sat back and waited for AJ to be able to play we had the talent to win some of those games not just punt them and move on to the next. The guy makes a cool $3mil a year that should in itself should be a mandate to win games lots of them.

Ray Goff

January 4th, 2011
12:59 pm

Aaron Murray is a slightly better version of that Garcia kid at South Carolina. The quicker you UGA fans come in touch with reality the better. Garcia throws more int’s but murray throws his in bunches in big games.

Poleesemenses

January 4th, 2011
12:59 pm

Dawg_Mike, I agree completely! When is the last time we even TRIED to block a kick, XP, field goal or punt??????

Aksthegovmint

January 4th, 2011
1:01 pm

Hard to believe UGA has slid to the bottom 25% of the SEC!

Ray Goff

January 4th, 2011
1:01 pm

Look at all the NFL first rounders at UGA with nothing to show for it..Stafford, Moreno, A.J. Green all first rounders

Gator Man

January 4th, 2011
1:07 pm

What a sad football school: This man has not come close to wining a Nat and you people are talking about next year.
This man could not coach a high school team in the state of Florida, what low standards UGA has.

Old man

January 4th, 2011
1:08 pm

It is pretty unusual for today’s coach to recover past glory on a consistent basis. Given the chance, Richt might have sporadic success if he remains at Georgia. It is doubtful that he can put together a string of seasons comparable to 2002-2007. Bowden (FSU) never really got him mojo back. Tuberville, Dye, Fulmer, and to some extent Paterno are coaches who, once they had a few off years, never returned to sustained greatness. If we are to have a success era similar to those orchestrated by Meyer, Saban, Stoops, Carroll, Tressell, etc., we will need a new head coach.

just a fan

January 4th, 2011
1:09 pm

here is our 2011 schedule
Boise St
USC
Coastal Carolina
@Ole Miss
Miss St
@Tenn
@Vandy
Bye Week
WLOCP
New Mexico St
Auburn
Kentucky
@ Yech

The consensus seems to be 10 wins or 9 wins and having to beat florduh, but can someone name the teams we are going to lose to this upcoming season. Can we withstand losing to Boise to open the season and regroup for USC? Are we going to lose to Miss St at home and at Tenn?

Vant

January 4th, 2011
1:12 pm

Thanks, Bill for providing a forum for the delusional and demented to express their thoughts – although it doesn’t appear that many of the posts here involved brainwave activity; of course the Dawgs need marked improvements, CMR was not going anywhere after this season and won’t go anywhere after next season unless the same record occurs (and it won’t)

JAKE

January 4th, 2011
1:12 pm

6.5 WINS OR MORE IN 2011.

Eric

January 4th, 2011
1:13 pm

Consensus? Could be the same person reaching ocnsensus with himself posting under a bunch of fake names.

Scottie

January 4th, 2011
1:14 pm

Concensus from the sane posts is 7 wins.

GODAWG

January 4th, 2011
1:14 pm

Coaching has gone down the tank. The only thing I think is that Richt wants to do is keep his job. He’s a fine Christian man but a winning SEC team needs a hard driving coach not a church youth counsler. If he gets to stay he needs to replace Bobo with and experienced OC. Richt doesn’t have the guts or mindset to be a winner.

Red Rules

January 4th, 2011
1:14 pm

We were just an eyelash away from a much different season this year. If you people actually would go back and look at the games you DVR’d again, you’ll see what I mean. Richt cannot shoulder the blame for fumbles, interceptions, coverage miscues caused by someone taking the fake, dropped passes, dropped interception opportunities (there were several). And sometimes the opponents actually make some great plays themselves. Those things happen in every football game played – sometimes they happen to aid your efforts and sometimes they go against you. That is the game of football – it’s tough to take but other than the recent bowl game, our teams gave commendable effort and still lost some close games. I think the bowl game lack of effort showed that the players were just ready to get it all over with! Let’s move forward and stop all the negativity – why would a good recruit want to go to a school with such fair-weather fans???

JD

January 4th, 2011
1:14 pm

I have been one of the biggest supporters of CMR but enough is enough. There is no way the Dawgs should lose to UCF even on one of their bad days especially in a bowl game. CMR was hired because he knew offense and had guided FSU’s offense to a national championship and mentored Charlie Ward to a Heisman Trophy. CMR please stop rubbing your forehead, adjusting your shades, and being way too cool on the sidelines. You were hired as an offensive guru even though that may have not been relayed to you by Dooley or Michael Adams. Call the plays so that you can be more involved and intuned with every structure of the game. Did anyone see Jim Harbaugh last night calling plays? Did you all catch how he relates to his players without saying a word. Sometimes it really appears to me that CMR is too satisfied with the condition and/or welfare of this team. Light a fire under yourself and your players. Chris Durham, Justin Houston, and AJ Green are the only players I have seen that kept themselves motivated and hungry all season long. I know I’m missing some other players but my point is that only a few can do that. CMR needs to light the fire or get them off this team if they can’t play to their 4 and 5 star hype level or remove himself for the good of UGA.

I may have been a little too hard but I know this guy knows how to coach. I would love to see him stay but he has to UF and win an SEC title at least regardless of how many wins.

Aubie

January 4th, 2011
1:14 pm

UGA schedule sets up very nicely next year like Auburns did this year. UGA has a good shot at winning 10. What then? If he is not gone before next season I think he stays for several more years. Go Hawgs tonight!!

Jackson

January 4th, 2011
1:14 pm

Ugh… wow… Fire fire fire… that’s all we ever hear. Do I think Richt is on the hot seat? Yep Do I think he needs to do a strong mirror look? Yep. Does he need to go down — maybe, if he is unable to make some coaching changes (which is now very unlikely). Basically, there needs to be a change in focus and behavior. Everybody talks about the poor effort at the UCF game… I was there, I saw it, it was pathetic. Having said that, what else was pathetic was the turnout for the game. If the fans won’t show why should the players? The attitude across the spectrum in all aspects of the program is pathetic. Who was the 2nd player off the field after the ball was knocked down with no time left? Justin Houston…. where is the passion from the “leader” of the defense…. Truely pathetic…
So to answer Bill’s question, the attitude has to change. The players need to step up and be true leaders by example. The coaches need to instill a disciplined approach — that focuses on basic football, basic academics, and basic behavior. The wins and losses might be what points people to say why Richt should or should not be fired, but ultimately it will be about the effort and attitude of the players. McGarity didn’t say he was disappointed in the loss, he was disappointed in the effort. I agree. If we get outcoached… fine — it stinks, it hurts but it happens. If we are out classed by talent, it hurts — but it happens. If we get out husseled, out fought, then no doubt, Mark Richt, Mike Bobo, Todd Grantham… need to go.

Ray Goff

January 4th, 2011
1:14 pm

as long as UGA goes 7-6 ..us Jorja fans will be happy and kontent, we ain’t hard 2 pleaze.we jus like feetball.

Lotus Flower

January 4th, 2011
1:15 pm

Win 13-0 every year or don’t play.

ARdawg

January 4th, 2011
1:15 pm

If 10 wins is the benchmark Mcgarity just as well send him packing now. 10 wins ain’t happening for UGA next year. It pains me to state that

nmdawg

January 4th, 2011
1:15 pm

To me, Coach Richt has got to at least LOOK engaged to merit another year. What I saw on the sideline during the bowl game was someone who looked disinterested. If that is the way the “leader” acts, how can you expect those around him to act much differently? Football is an emotional, violent game, yet TG gets ripped for “bad conduct”???? Let the tennis players, golfers, and equestrians (who play sports that are physical, but less violent) worry about manners and stuff! Get nasty, hit, pursue, have fundamentals and passion. That does not mean “be a thug”…except on the field while playing with class. Richt has lost this group, and will not get them back, in my opinion.

Uncle Overall

January 4th, 2011
1:16 pm

I been a dog fan since 1922. sic em’. don’t keer how many games dey win and all, i am one of them loyale fans.

jtdawg

January 4th, 2011
1:16 pm

9 Wins and the East
10 wins and nothing less

HE MUST BEAT UF!!!!!! No more!

Biff Pocoroba

January 4th, 2011
1:17 pm

Well let’s see. If you consistently underperformed at your job year after year is he/she going to keep giving you chances? No, you’re going to get let go no matter how good of a guy you are. And in his case, he’s the executive manager making millions, who only made changes to the sub-par staff when he was basically told to do so. Now after the Bobo experiment has not worked, he continues to stick with him. Magical thinking is not going to right the ship, only a regime change will do it. I mean, he’s a decent guy, but it’s been 10 years folks. Does he stack up to Saban, Tressel, Beamer, and the other perennial contenders. Or the new guys, Chip Kelly, Harbaugh and Patterson. Time to start over. Let’s hope Kirby will still be available.

bart

January 4th, 2011
1:17 pm

Looking at the schedule, I think anything less than a 10 win season would be a failure, with a win over FLA being mandatory.

Angry Dawg

January 4th, 2011
1:17 pm

I don’t care how many games Richt wins, by by golly, it better be with some screaming, kicking over some gatorade coolers, and waving his arms around like Dooley. Yes, Dooley stunk too, but at least he has some passion losing.

jtdawg

January 4th, 2011
1:18 pm

I say it does not matter one bit. If we lose in Gainesville next year, he should either resign effective immediately and if not fired on the spot by McGarity.

No More!!!!