Not all wins over Tech are created equal

The best thing about this season for UGA: The development of Aaron Murray at quarterback. (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

The best thing about this season for UGA: The development of Aaron Murray at quarterback. (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

Some more thoughts on Georgia’s 42-34 victory over Georgia Tech …

As anyone in red and black knows, any win over the trade school is a good win, but judging from the postgame conversations and chatter on the radio and online, Dogs fans left Saturday’s game without nearly as positive an attitude as after last year’s “I run this state” victory in Atlanta.

Part of that likely is tied to the overall frustration with a 6-6 season and the graphic evidence provided on the field Saturday that Georgia’s defense has a long way to go before it gets back to respectability. Any team running any semblance of an option running attack piled up the yards this year, with Tech being just the most notable example.

Also a factor in the postgame quibbling was the way Mike “Balance for the Sake of Balance” Bobo once again seemed to take his foot off the pedal once the Dogs got up a couple of scores. I realize that the play-action passing game is somewhat dependent on the defense thinking there’s a possibility of a run, but, really, was there any need for that pretense Saturday night? Al Groh’s defense had sold out against the run and doubled-up A.J. Green (which even then wasn’t enough to slow him down), meaning the pass was open nearly every play.

And yet Bobo insisted on trying those runs up the middle too many times, the worst case being when the Dogs got the ball back with 9:35 on the clock and a slim 35-28 lead and started off with two one-yard runs by Washaun Ealey before Aaron Murray got sacked, necessitating giving the ball back to a Tech offense that Georgia clearly couldn’t stop at that point. After the first play of that Georgia drive, you could hear the anguished cries of fans throughout the stadium, “Throw the ball!”

Thus was the game a lot closer than it needed to be. Had Georgia put Murray back in the shotgun and let him sling it downfield all night long, it’s doubtful Tech’s defense could have done anything to stop the onslaught. Why must it always be so difficult?

On the plus side, Murray again showed what a special quarterback he’s becoming. Aside from the fumbled snap on that last fourth-and-1, he put on an impressive display all evening long, scrambling out of trouble, completing 76 percent of his passes and making few mistakes. Kudos to Bobo and Mark Richt for another superior job of quarterback development. …

The most heads-up play of the night came in the fourth quarter when Brandon Boykin fumbled on a kickoff return and Marlon Brown picked up the ball without missing a beat. Give Marlon credit for his fair catch of a short kick to the 30-yard-line, too. Speaking of which. …

Brain fart of the night: Shaun Chapas letting a pooch kickoff bounce off the ground before trying to catch it, resulting in a fumble to open the game. Even rec league kids know better. …

Nice snag by Bruce Figgins in the end zone on the Dogs’ third score. I think we threw to him twice all year and both were TDs. And full credit to Murray there for finding the open man. …

What a strange experience it is for a longtime Georgia fan seeing a Dogs offense that can’t pick up the first down on fourth-and-inches. …

Good thing the Dogs didn’t need a timeout in the fourth quarter since they used them all up in the third, two of them while grinding out the final three yards for that fourth touchdown. …

For a rivalry game, the Sanford Stadium crowd was pretty dead for much of the game, no doubt because fans were stunned by Georgia’s inability to stop Tech on the ground. Finally, on the Jackets’ next-to-last possession, the crowd came to life on third and fourth down with 17 yards to go. I still say moving the Redcoats to the end zone, where they could be heard better throughout the stadium, would help keep fans in the game.

And while we’re on the subject of managing gameday Between the Hedges, how hard would it be for the folks in the booth and Richt to get on the same page so the Dogs actually take the field when they’re introduced? …

I have no idea what Samuel L. Jackson was doing on the field in UGA garb, but it was cool seeing him up on the big screen. …

Lastly, a shout out to Malinda Erwin of Oglethorpe County, who normally sits in front of me in Section 104 but missed Saturday’s game because of hip surgery. She usually is there at the games beside Mac Colvin, her best friend of 50 years. We missed you, Malinda!

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Cowboy Copas

November 29th, 2010
8:10 am

Richt needs to go. We don’t need the criminal types he recruits. Let him go to Miami, where he’ll fit right in.

JY

November 29th, 2010
8:13 am

If VG coached up Donnan’s defensive players to success. Why has not Grantham done the same for Martinez’s players. Has Richt’s recruiting been less than Donnan’s? Uga certainly has not had the Pollock’s, Bailey’s, Davis’, in recent years. Why would any good runner come to UGA when we are a pass oriented team, a pass first team, a block first team before you can run the ball or play. You have to protect the qB before you can run the ball?

Tag

November 29th, 2010
8:21 am

There is no way that Miami or any other school is interested in hiring this clown.

Hometown Hater

November 29th, 2010
8:23 am

Cant wait until the thug Christian (how appropriate) LeMay arrives to take the reins from Choirboy Murray. Then you will have a racial divide between the thugs and the necks on who they will support for QB.

CHDawg

November 29th, 2010
8:23 am

Bill,
Right on with this column. This is exactly what happened at Auburn, too. We develop momentum with our offense, which is much better by air this year, and you can almost see the cloud move over CMB’s head as he moves to control the clock with increased runs. Opposing teams have had the same strategy for the last several years against us (and it has worked well–even against Stafford and Moreno): stack the box against the run and hope Bobo doesn’t pass, but if he does pass, hope your 7 guys in the box can put enough pressure on the QB. If that fails, you give up lots and lots of yardage. Our running game has only worked this year (against good Ds) when we were punishing opposing DCs for employing the now patented anti-CMB strategy. CMB handled Tech very well by moving quickly to the pass and spanking them until they changed the defensive strategy. Then our running game really took off. CMB did a brilliant job of exploiting Tech’s D. However, once we got the big lead, CMB went back to the old pattern–run first and Tech moved back to their game plan, and it worked well for them. We have to pressure the opposing teams constantly with our offense if they stack against the run–that means passing game! Take a look at the Ducks. They don’t have much defense, but they put constant pressure on opposing teams with their offense. If our O line was dominant, or we had Mark Ingram we could do that with our running game, but we have AJ Green and Co., and need to rely on our strength (passing game) to put the pressure on opposing teams, and we can do that this year! We just have to change our mindset. IMHO, we need more rollouts, more plays designed to get the ball outside of the box (like pitching to Gray and letting him do the run/pass rollout), and more passing in general. Finally, I saw several times where we had three receivers so close to each other that one guy could have covered them. Something was messed up. Take a look at how Petrino delays a guy across the middle or out of the backfield. This team is much, much better than their record. We just need to start pressuring defenses with our strengths imo. And that means go out and pretend you are in a two minute drill until they change their D, and then run the balanced game until they switch back to the run D. CMB did a very good job the last two games until we had a big lead. We can’t sit on a lead this year—the pressure has to be constant from the offense until we can recruit a defense.

DawginLex

November 29th, 2010
8:25 am

There was not too much time to take a knee!!!!!

Richt blew it and it almost cost us the game.

Tech had called their last TO
1:35 left
2nd down
take a knee runs out 5-10 seconds
1:25 left
40 second play clock cranks
45 -50 seconds left
3rd down
take a knee

worst case scenario is you actually run a play on 4th down and run out 5 more seconds.Tech might have gotten the ball back with 5 seconds left.

not 1:29

It was stupid.

Gordon

November 29th, 2010
8:32 am

“Gordon – I’ve given numerous examples where alternate actions have won football games in the past. I’m still waiting for an example where giving up points and hoping for a touchdown plus two won a game.”

UGA season ticket holder, I just don’t know how to explain this to you any better than I already have. The odds of Tech winning if Ealey takes a knee after getting the first down is 0%. The odds of Tech winning by letting UGA go up by 8 and getting the ball back with a minute or so left is maybe 5%. Even running the clock down to 15 seconds and either trying a field goal or just giving us the ball is preferable to scoring a touchdown and giving us the ball with that much time. One way we have a chance, the other way we don’t. It’s that simple. As I’ve said 3 times, even Richt admitted it was a mistake to score.

Perry

November 29th, 2010
8:33 am

One thing I thought Grantham messed up on was at the end of the game. Tech was rolling their QB away from whatever side Houston was on, and throwing short passes to Houston’s opposite side of the field. Georgia should have flodded that side of the field with defenders, forcing Tech’s QB to stay in the pocket, where Houston could have gotten to him.

Dawgday Afternoon

November 29th, 2010
8:40 am

As far as CPJ being a genius, spare me. He went for it on 4th and 2 in the first quarter when they were in field goal range. All of you clever Techies try to figure out how big a difference those 3 points would have made. By the way, it is not that hard to remember the plays in a flexbone offence.

Perry

November 29th, 2010
8:44 am

Bill-

I was worried about thsi game. I knew Tech would put up a lot of yards on Georgia. Georgia lost those big 3 experience defensive lineman to the NFL. You don’t replace that fast. Georgia’s only shot was figure out a way to force 3 or 4 to’s as Georgia Tech ran the ball so much, it did give Georgia a lot of good looks at the ball, as far as forcing to’s go. Grantham should have flooded 8 in the box too. Tech can’t pass.

John Galt

November 29th, 2010
8:46 am

Lower trier fans of Dogville continue their boasting of beating yet another hapless jackets team, who had their shot at the dogs, but we know the outcome. The jackets’ coach was clearly the better coach with the talent he brought. The old adage is your dance with who brung you applies. One wonders how he would have faired with the dogs talent. Perhaps we will never witness that. Dogville’s finger pointing centers on Bobo. He will fall on the sword for Richt in the end. The dog program will languish in what if land until someone brings another direction. Dogville will be supporting a regional program at best.

Perry

November 29th, 2010
8:46 am

The other thing Grantham will learn, is you can’t have a rule to stop the triple option. Johnson will adjust. You have to keep giving Johnson different looks, so he can’t read how you’re defending the triple option.

UGA Season Ticket Holder since 1986

November 29th, 2010
9:24 am

Gordon — Thanks for admitting that you are a Tech fan. (giving us the ball). Now, go and find me an instance in Division 1A history where your theory worked. I’ve given you examples of fumbles returned for game winning touchdowns, I’ve given you examples of blocked field goals returned for game winning touchdowns, I’ve given you examples of Hail Marys thrown for touchdowns. You have failed to find a single instance where PJ’s genius was successful. I, myself, sat in the freezing cold of Memphis at the UGA-Arkansas Liberty Bowl arguing that Vince Dooley should just let Arkansas score rather than eat up the clock. I argued that Vince Dooley should have not taken the holding penalty in order to save time on the clock. Of course, Arkansas was moved back ten yards and missed the field goal and Georgia won. Accordingly, another example where letting the other team score would probably have lost the game.
Now, since you have conceeded that you are a Tech fan (as are most posters here calling for CMR to lose his job), I will concede that Paul Johnson’s theory gave Tech A chance (not THE ONLY chance) to tie the game and not necessarily to win the game. But, since the idea has NEVER WORKED A SINGLE TIME in Division 1A (BCS), it is not a fireable offense for CMR to not have anticipated it and it is certainly not a benchable offense for Ealey not to have anticipated it. Have fun in Shreveport in light of all of the HATE that you Tech fans put on this board last year about how terrible Shreveport is and how all Georgia fans should kill themselves over the shame of going to Shreveport (even after having beat Tech that year too).
What do you call someone who loses an election over principal? A loser.

Mike

November 29th, 2010
9:27 am

Two weeks to prepare, ran specific triple-option scrimmages during the summer, ran specific triple-option scrimmages during the spring – yet we are still too stupid to figure out a way to put a body on the pitch. What the f%#k did we do during those practices exactly? I’m sure I’m simplying way too much but that is a high school offense and we look totally lost.

And then the decision by the coaches and Ealey to not take a knee or fall down after gaining the first down? More stupidity. Until we can get guys on the sideline and the field that can think their way out of a paper back, we will wallow in mediocrity.

Anyone but Richt

November 29th, 2010
9:28 am

Put pretty boy Mark on the next bus leaving Athens, along with thug recruits like Ealey, King, and Green. Clean up Athens once and for all.

Then hire a coach who has genuine morals and principles to go with his coaching skills, not a phoney jerk like Richt.

OkefenokeeDawg

November 29th, 2010
9:31 am

Richt has already said Bobo will be back . . .

Damn!

McRae

November 29th, 2010
9:32 am

I agree, get rid of Richt now and stop the bleeding.

OkefenokeeDawg

November 29th, 2010
9:42 am

Mike (9:27),

An even better story about Richt and off weeks – last year UGA had an off week before the UF game. After that off week, on Richt’s radio show on the Monday of the game, a caller asked if Richt had the team ready for the #1 ranked Gators.

Richt said (and this is the truth), “well, we spent the off week working on fundamentals, we’ll get started on Florida tomorrow (Tuesday).”

Then they come out on Saturday lay yet another egg in Jax.

Seriously!

November 29th, 2010
9:44 am

Gordon who is Marcus, the good thing about Murray is he has 3 more seasons to get better. Would you at least agree that for a RS freshmen he had a pretty good year?

Spike

November 29th, 2010
9:56 am

I’m excited about Murray for next year. The guy has hearst and is a fighter. Sure he fubled that one snap but overall the guy played great! Who was that bonehead with the towel on the sideline near the end of the game? Ugh!

PMC

November 29th, 2010
9:56 am

I think Richt did a pretty good job taking the chains off of Murray and finding the production in the offense.

The defense, well. Grantham may well be another big mistake, and an even more expensive one this time. He’s been mostly an embarassment this season. But he’s the man going foward for at least a couple more years.

I think outside of those two, we probably see some changes. Garner has done virtually nothing of substance. The talent that they need isn’t there, he’s essentially dead money. Van Halanger has simply not provided the results either and the same is true of Stacy Searles.

I’m still a huge Lakatos fan but the safeties on this team are just abysmal. Jakar Hamilton is lost, Commings best work was on special teams….. Rambo is more excited about knocking himself out than playing good coverage.

Running backs…. nowhere near elite. Decent. Respectable, not SEC quality. Not one of these guys is equitable to Danny Ware or Kregg Lumpkin.

If these players are supposed to be getting better…. they aren’t in a lot of areas. I think if Richt wants to stay he’s going to have to bring in more new coaches again this year. The production simply isn’t there.

Spike

November 29th, 2010
9:56 am

Sorry, “heart”. I can spell, I just can’t type.

PMC

November 29th, 2010
9:59 am

I mean the coaches know more than we do what they don’t have by far.

Currently there simply aren’t enough good football players on this team with sound fundamentals. If they just played thier assignments to perfection and tackled decently, they could win a lot more games.

How many years has it been since Georgia had a fundamentally sound defense?

UGA Season Ticket Holder since 1986

November 29th, 2010
9:59 am

P.S. Gordon and all you Tech fans who come on this site posing as Georgia fans. You’ve now lost 16 of the last 20 games to Georgia. We don’t need your advice. About anything. Losers.

P.S. If you are a real Georgia fan posting on this site, please realize that recruits read this site. How dare you complain that we have bad recruiting classes when you do everything in your power to run the recruits off.

P.S. If you are recruit. Please realize that a lot of people posting on this site are simply posing as Georgia fans to try and deceive you and trick you out of going to Georgia. Ask yourself “Would someone who would lie to me about who they are in order to deceive me and trick me really have my best interests at heart?”

agdawg

November 29th, 2010
10:06 am

PJ maybe smart for letting us score but I could have coached that last series for Tech better than he did. Success on the ground with Allen all night and you throw it 3 in a row? Not as smart as you think he is……He is just as puffed up as the rest of the Tech crowd!

TrueBlue

November 29th, 2010
10:07 am

King = Bust.

Bobo is an absolute idiot and is clueless and making the right call at the right time. If Murray wasn’t such an amazing QB, this team would not have won more then 3 games this year. Fire Bobo!!! Grantham needs to wake up and do something with this D. New year, same terrible Georgia defense.

Pago Pago DAWG

November 29th, 2010
10:15 am

And we still can’t beat UF!!!!

Post Timeout Syndrome

November 29th, 2010
10:15 am

Twice this year (Colorado & Tech) Georgia has come out of a timeout with the opportunity to put the game away and have fumbled on both plays – how does this happen?

UGA Insider

November 29th, 2010
10:58 am

My early 2011 SEC East projections:

USC
UF
Tenn
UGA
UK
Vandy

Please, Please, Please UGA fans do not get your hopes up too high for next season. Our offensive and defensive lines are terrible and we are going to lose our only playmakers we had in 2010. UGA is looking at another 6-6 or possibly a 7-5 season. I hate to say this because I am a Grantham fan but if we had half a defense this season we could easily have been 9-3.

Gordon

November 29th, 2010
11:02 am

Season Ticket Holder,

Find me a post where I said I was a UGA fan. You can’t. Why would I do that anyway? This is an article involving my team so I am posting. Is that okay with you?

You also apparently simply cannot fathom the argument I and many others (including some who are UGA fans like DawginLex) have patiently tried to make to you about whether Tech allowing UGA to score was or was not the right thing to do. I THINK I see what you are saying: Tech should have tried to strip the ball and run it back, rather than let UGA score. We KNOW we will get the ball back with some time if we let UGA score, but the odds are small that we would recover a fumble and run it back if we try it your way. Whether or not that has actually been done is besides the point. Your examples (Eagles/Giants) just beg the bigger question, which is why didn’t Richt take the clock down to practically no time remaining and leave Tech with no chance to win. You seem to be the only person on either side who cannot grasp this, and I’m tired of trying to explain it to you.

Congratulations on your team’s victory.

unbiased guest

November 29th, 2010
11:17 am

UGA Season Ticket…..
I feel like you have set up a false premise….”Give me an example of Team A letting Team B score so they could get the ball back down 8pts and tie it up therefore giving them a chance to win the game”………..It would be nearly impossible to find your example because 99.9% of the time this situation is encountered, Team B TAKES A KNEE and ends the game. It is coaching 101. It is why Richt himself conceded…and I quote “Coach Johnson got me on that one” (well, the quote was close to that…too lazy to look it up)…..So again, UGA’s coach admitted that one got by him. WHY DO YOU DISAGREE WITH RICHT HIMSELF??

schmeckdawg

November 29th, 2010
11:17 am

As long as we win, I don’t care if CMR gets out coached, Dumbo continues his bizarre play calling etc. Just Win Baby!!!!!

corkylovesbeer

November 29th, 2010
11:25 am

Mr. King,

The stadium was dead due to the lack of spear chucking music. Kenny Chesney just doesn’t cut it. Chesney doesn’t hype up the crowd.

Seriously!

November 29th, 2010
11:31 am

Gordon=Marcus, Would you agree that Murray had a pretty good season for a RS Freshman?

NOBODYYOUKNOW

November 29th, 2010
11:37 am

Gordon, you are not gonna convince any of these “know it alls” who have never coached or most have not played football in their lives anything. They’re football crazy. I love to watch college ball but to sit back and critize a well respected coach shows arrogance and stupidity. But its a fun read. I hate to see the season end.

Dawggie

November 29th, 2010
11:40 am

The glaring negatives in this game didin’t really bother me, particularly the coaching issues. I thought Bobo mostly called an ok game (and has been much better this year than last), with the exception of the fact that he really does seem to second guess himself and “take his foot of the gas” in both GT and Auburn. However, if our O-Line was not so pathetic, running would have been a good strategy and with our talent at RB and TE, we should never have a problem on 4th and inches, and we should never have two runs go for one yard. Our O-Line is an absolute embarrassment, and I hope they know that.

As for the Defense, we could not stop the option attack, but UGA never has been able to. Anyone else remember when we almost got beat by UAB running an option attack back when BVG was still here and almost every player on the 2-deep defensive chart is or was in the NFL? Further, the 3-4 is always weak in year 1 (particularly with our completely out of theor element personnel – particularly on the line) and takes big steps in year 2.

We have a lot to be excited about next year. If the team comes out lame next season, then we can start talking about firing coaches, but let’s shut the f*** up until then, please.

funny...

November 29th, 2010
11:59 am

Georgia Tech, the only place in the world where “ALMOST” counts as a win.

LOL, losers.

azdawg

November 29th, 2010
12:02 pm

BK. Good summation and good job on filtering the opinions of your bloggers.

This season is not over yet considering GA hopefully will be playing in a bowl game. However, its not too early to address what we might expect from next seasons team, its strengths and weaknesses especially if AJ and Justin H. leave early. All things being equal, if the current DC is back next season I’m afraid it’ll be more of the same. We’ll be fortunate to be reach 500. He’s that bad. At least Bobo shines most of the time. He’s not responsible for fumbles or INT’s.

Bottom line: If Richt turns this thing around by beating SC, and FL next season and gets luckey in a few more he ought to be coach of the year. I don’t expect a NC next season but if its more of the same it’ll be a disaster of a 2011 season.

Dawgtards ruin this state

November 29th, 2010
12:16 pm

Great Season getting waxed by Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Auburn, Colorado. You represent the state well as our football factory.

LawDawg

November 29th, 2010
12:33 pm

“Dawgtard”

You are the dumbest of dumb. UGA beat Kentucky by 40 points and lost last second , 4th QTR/OT games to Fla, S.C. and Colorado. We were even tied with Auburn going into the 4th qtr. You represent your Jackettes very well with your lack of football knowledge.

P.S. We STILL run this state!!!!!!

Alabama Dog

November 29th, 2010
12:36 pm

vinny: THANK YOU! I thought I was the ONLY one who believed Georgia should have taken a knee at the end! It was obvious to anyone watching the game, Georgia’s defense wasn’t going to stop their offense! Another game filled with poor coaching-all the way around! Georgia didn’t win the game, tech lost it, but I’ll take it.

kingster

November 29th, 2010
12:48 pm

Hummmmm, I would never do this, but I have to this time to prove a small point, last week someone wrote that Tech was obsessed with UGA, there are 3 maybe 4 TECH fans on this blog, but go to TECH’s blog, the first 6 blogs are UGA fans, this is crazy, after all the crazy things, HS recruits doing their thing and players going to jail, you guys never beat anyone with some substance this year, how can you look each other in the eyes, sure a win is a win, but you guys really need it, wonder what had happen if UGA had lost, now thats a sad day, you guys wake up in the morning just to get your feel of TECH, I understand if you do now understand what I mean, only one thing matters, beating TECH, the AD can drink all he wants, the players can go to jail, the recuits can dis anyone they want as long as UGA beats TECH, thats SICK, some of you will admit it was a chance when CPJ let you guys score to get the ball back, but the rest of you are just Stupid, watch and see as time goes on, you think 6-6 (barely) is bad, the future (I harp on this all the time- even with 4 & 5 star recruit) is cloudy, but its very sunny in MIAMI !!! (CMR don’t do like Paul Hewitt and miss the boat!)

LawDawg

November 29th, 2010
12:52 pm

kigster,

turn about is fair play, my friend!!!!

NashDawgq

November 29th, 2010
12:58 pm

Pass, Pass, Pass. Forget the run…..

Alabama Dog

November 29th, 2010
1:07 pm

kingster: You’re right about one thing: when they beat tech-they didn’t beat a team with substance! But then again, when’s the last time tech DID have some substance????

Coachdawg 2000

November 29th, 2010
1:22 pm

Look letting us score to at least have a chance(even if it is very,very slim) was genius.But having your middle school offense chuck it on the last 2 drives was nothing short of idiotic. In 3 years they have proven that they can score quickly using the option and they have also proven they aren’t going to beat anybody throwing the ball. So settle down bugs. Oh Yeah, I almost forgot, WE STILL RUN THIS STATE!!!!!
B.T.W. TECHIES if the there was replay in college ball in ‘98 and ‘99 we would be 19-1 in the last 20 years.

Washaun Ealy

November 29th, 2010
1:22 pm

UGA Season Ticket Holder:

CPJ let them score the TD: are you saying that no team can drive 70-80 yards in 90 seconds and get a 2-pt conversion? Idiot. Happens every Saturday.

How many teams have won a game when the other team is in victory formation? Zero. Idiot.

Washaun Ealy

November 29th, 2010
1:26 pm

UGA Season Ticket Holder:

By the way, Brian Westbrook for the Eagles ran down to the 1 yard line and took a knee instead of scoring to keep the clock rolling. I guess SOME players and coaches are smart enough to figure that out. I’m too stupid to have that kind of sense. All I was thinking about was my TD dance.

Washaun Ealy

November 29th, 2010
1:29 pm

Washaun Ealy

November 29th, 2010
1:39 pm

Not only did Richt get outcoached (his words, not mine) on that play, he still didn’t have the sense to go for TWO points to get a 9 point lead. Moron went for the PAT, leaving the door open.

Richt was so stunned at his own ineptitude that he couldn’t think clearly on the PAT.